The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Grading the new head coach hires

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Colin gives the Raiders a lot of credit for hiring Pete Carroll to be their new head coach and points out the obvious choice for worst hire so far this coaching cycle He points out the various errors Bills head coach Sean McDermott made in their loss to the Chiefs in the postseason for the 4th time Colin breaks down the drama between Pat Riley and Jimmy Butler See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Questions in Buffalo? Do they have the right coach live in Los Angeles? On a Tuesday, it's the herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Greg Olson stops by today. Kyle Van Noe, Nick Wright, in one hour from now. J. Mack, it's interesting now that they've stopped blaming the officials, Buffalo fans are now going closer inspection. Maybe Mahomes is great and our coach

isn't. But I want to start with all the coaches that have been hired because I do think there are things that we learn year after year about coaching hires. Oh yes, every year. So Pete Carroll yesterday introduced as the Raider coach. We'll get to that in a second. Here's what we know about head coaching hires. First of all, number one, I've made this mistake. Don't judge the opening press conference too harshly. Some of these. young guys get to the podium without a game plan, they're nervous. Number two is organizations need different things. The bears need creativity.

The Jags have to solve Trevor Lawrence. The Raiders need an adult. The Cowboys need a lot of things. It feels like Jerry Jones just wanted a puppet. And the third thing is hiring good coordinators as your head coach is much like the NFL draft. I had dinner with an NFL GM last night. He said the draft ends up being once you get past the first round,

it's a 50-50 proposition. And that's why I thought Pete Carroll, Mike Vrable, and Mike McCarthy were arguably the best hires. So if this morning I had to hand out a report card to all the teams, now the Saints interviewed Kellynne Moore, Mike McCarthy, I don't know what they're going to do, but here's the grades I would hand out to the team so far. I think most teams have done pretty well. So Chicago with Ben Johnson, I'll give it an A-minus because he's never been a coach, so I can't give him an A to an A-plus.

stays in the division. This is an old school defensive-minded culture, and they went out and hired the young, most creative, offensive guy from the same division. I think this is who they wanted. I think it's who Caleb Williams wanted. Reportedly Caleb Williams went to his driveway and scream when they hire him. I'll give him an A-minus. The Cowboys Brian Schottnheimer feels absolutely uninspiring. It's a D. Friday, late. news dump is embarrassing. Again, the last time he was a hot coordinator, it was 12, 13, 14 years ago.

You know, again, I think the Cowboys got caught flat-footed, and this is what it looks like. I would say Liam Cohen for the Jaguars, a B, again, did wonders with Baker Mayfield, but Baker Mayfield also is pretty talented, made Will Levis a little better. You know, again, not a great opening press conference. What's his vision?

Listen, we know he's a smart offensive guy, so it's the right side of the ball. But so is Shane Steichen and Indy, and that hasn't worked great so far. I'll give it a B. Aaron Glenn, Jets hire another defensive coordinator. Don't love the staff I'm seeing put together so far. It may work. The players like him, but the players loved Antonio Pierce as an interim and a head coach for the Raiders. So what does that mean?

I don't trust this organization upstairs. Aaron Glenn is fine. You know, we'll see. I think it's actually a good roster. He's kind of tap dancing, walking on eggshells around the Aaron Rogers thing. I can't give it better than a C. I think Mike Vrable's an A. This, to me, was the best coach available on the market.

He's got a winning record. He's a culture changer. Familiarity with the team. Most of these coordinators are a 50-50 prop. But the guys that change cultures, the Harbaughs, the Vrabels, the people, Pete Carroll's. Those guys don't really fail. They may not win a trophy, but they don't fail. I thought this was a solid A hire. And I think the Raiders with Pete Carroll, a lot of people dogged him for his age. I do not worry about Pete Carroll's age and vitality. I think he looks

fantastic for his age. I don't know. Just to me, they need an adult in the room. His last two years in Seattle, they had a winning record in the division with Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVeigh. like they were still winning football games. So here was Pete yesterday at his opening presser. It all starts with competition. You either competing or you're not. There's one thing that I want them to understand and start the message right now.

If you want to be on a great team, you need to be a great teammate. So there you go. There are my grades. Vrable, Pete Carroll A's, Ben Johnson, and A-minus. I think if I was the Saints, I would go Mike McCarthy, but he's sort of disappeared

off the radar. Kellyn Moore is interviewing for that job. We'll see how it goes. Kellyn Moore feels like a B minus higher. Okay, so listen, whenever you lose to the Chiefs, it's always the refs's fault. And Fan is short for Fanatic, and now it's Tuesday, and suddenly the articles are being more reasonable

and acknowledging, yeah, our coaches sort of got worked on big plays. So one of the articles this morning points to three, different things that cost them. I agree with all three. Number one. So this is the fourth time Sean McDermott's had to go to the podium and answer for losing to the Chiefs. Okay, fourth time. And each time we've got these like situational questions about the offense. So number one, why didn't they use James Cook in the final drive? Totally agree. Said it six times yesterday. Three and a half minutes left, had a monster game mistake. The second thing the article says, the reliance on quarterback sneaks. I beat that puppy yesterday.

for three hours. Didn't like it. Hasselbeck didn't like it. Drew Brees didn't like it. Nobody liked it. But number three is an interesting one. The bills, the article said, did not help themselves by chasing points early and trying two-point conversions when they trailed 21-16.

That's driven me crazy for years. And I always say this. Save your special for the right moment. And the reason this one, I'm going to highlight, the third one, stop chasing points. You don't go into a game with nine magical plays. plays. Even Andy Reed will admit, you got a couple. And Andy's much more creative than Joe Brady or Sean McDermott. But the play that closed the game for Kansas City was that snake route to Somaget P-Rine. Only time he touched the ball. The whole game. This was the one time. And

Andy's been doing this for years. He has been the better poker player. And great poker players know when to bluff and go all in. And whereas the bills tell you. telegraphed their early plays and gave their two-point conversion plays away. That handful of special play. Why are you showing them first half? Why are you going second quarter? You know the game's going to be close. What are you doing?

The second thing is the Bears telegraphed their quarterback sneak. Apparently they had one play in the playbook. And they were going to go to one side every time in the playbook. So this is the nuance of great coaching. You telegraphed your two-point conversion stuff early. You showed them this is the stuff we think works against. you instead of holding it like a great poker player. And both Andy Reed and Spaggs saved their most unique calls, Spag's Corner Blitz, and Andy the P.

P. Ryan route. And Drew Brees talked about that play specifically in Andy Reed yesterday. The Chiefs do that better than anybody. In every one of those situations, you can tell it's so well thought out. I mean, it's the Andy Reed special. like we're going to get some kind of a man's own read. Like, look, the play that sealed the game at the end when they threw it to P. Ryan in the flat,

they motioned two guys over, got him reset, you see that it's man to man, and then you run those guys across to set a natural pick on the backer, and you seek the back out. We used to call it snake, because it's impossible to cover it for that guy. And so he just deals it to Piron.

He goes and gets 15 yards. They win the game. Touched the ball one time. They could have used at any point. They trailed at points. there was crisis moments in the game. Andy just kept that in his back pocket to the end. By the way, I don't think, I don't consider Doug Peterson an all-time elite coach,

but he knew when to call the Philly Special. Doug's an offensive coach. Andy reads an offensive coach. I'm not anti-defensive coach. I think Vrable and Pete Carroll, I gave them my two A's. I am not anti-defensive coach. But if you're trying to beat Mahomes and you have Josh Allen in your prime, you have got to be a better poker.

player. You have got to know when to bluff, got to know when to hold them, got to know when to fold them, and I think Andy Reed and Spaggs, you blame the refs. Once all the drama comes down and the emotion comes down, now we're being grown-ups.

Now we're having the grown-up conversation. Now we're not blaming zebras. Now we're looking in a mirror. Nobody solves any problems pointing. Never been a problem solved pointing. It's called the mirror. You look into it. Spaggs, Andy Reed, Y'all sat at a table on Sunday.

Those were the two best poker players. Jay Mack, I know it's painful. I know this is a very painful segment for you. This gets people worked up. You got me all fired up over here. First segment. I'm like, do I go after him for the Aaron Glenn C after he was hyping Aaron Glenn last week?

Or do I just say, goodness, great. You're nitpicking McDermott. You know, what is it? Tuesday morning quarterback now. Hey, he messed up here. And that, come on. Just reacting to what I think. thought was a very strong article pointing out the three deficiencies in these moments. Remember,

you get into a big fight. You get it, this is not, this is not the World Series. It's not seven games. You get into a big UFC fight, a boxing match, March madness, NFL playoffs. Everything counts because you don't get another chance. These are sudden death games and in sudden death poker hands. This isn't a weekend tournament. It's the final poker hand. I would say that's a pessimistic view, an optimistic view would be, damn. They fell behind 2110 in Arrowhead, stormed back to take the lead, and then they got jobbed on the Kincaid first down, and then Alan fourth down. I mean, for them to come back and go four for six on fourth down, the touchdown pass to tie it with what, like six minutes left? Like, I thought they played incredible. It was just three high

leverage moments did not go there. They did fumble it four times. They recovered all of them, magically. Fumble luck, baby. All right, Nick Wright next hour. Boy, the Pittsburgh stalers. So stale. We'll talk about that. And at press conference yesterday in Dallas, that's cringy, right?

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was universally mocked and criticized as it should been so we said this it should have been when mike mccarthy left they got caught flat-footed uh and and they just didn't have a plan b um and let's be honest about this organization since dac prescott alone came into the league this is the third Super Bowl for the Philadelphia Eagles. They are no longer the standard in their own division. Forget the NFC. Forget the league. In their own division, Philadelphia is the best run business.

So yesterday they hold a press conference. This was so strange to me. This is Stephen Jones, who I generally have liked, talking about the drought, the winning drought. Obviously, we're also evaluating more. it didn't go right, you know, in terms of, you know, this drought that people say we're in in terms of a championship game or a Super Bowl. There's no air quotes for that.

This is not some Alex Jones Looney conspiracy theory. You have not been to the NFC championship in 29 years. This is not a Chris Farley, the late Chris Farley on Saturday Night Live. I don't own a toothbrush. It's not the bit. You do air quotes when you're kind of rolling your eyes at the insistence of something that doesn't truly exist. You know, it's kind of a, yeah, sure, yeah, drought. Well, what do you call it 29 years?

This is an insult to droughts. Droughts usually end. This is three decades. You guys need a tropical storm. And then Jerry Jones, I think he was bragging about the higher or was he? Here's Jerry. If you don't think I can't operate out of my comfort zone, you're so wrong. It's unbelievable.

This is as big a risk as you can take no head coaching experience. Exactly. Exactly. This organization, the Jones family, needs a rehab or an intervention or something. You're air quoting drought. You had 29 years. you know how long it's been since the commanders, the lowly commanders have been in it? A week.

Three days. The lions, the bears, the Panthers, the Falcons, all these organizations you look down at have been there recently. And one of the last ones was the commanders. I don't think there's any question going forward. The Eagles and the commanders will run this division. They may run the NFC. but the first step in solving a problem is admitting you have one. And the air quotes, and I'm thinking about this, generally speaking, and I think I fall into this,

fans in media tend to be positive, maybe overly optimistic, with coaching hires. This is going to work. Everybody in New York today. Aaron, Glenn is Belichick. I get it. But the only other hire that I've ever seen that was viewed as ridiculous was David Cully to the Texans, and it lasted a year. He was a longtime assistant, never really considered a head coaching candidate, got the job, four wins fired. Nice guy.

But everybody knew. yet this this even freddie kitchens had people going hey baker likes them i mean jim tom sulla before his first press conference well he brings a toughness like harbaugh david cully brian schottenheimer um you know they were met with that kind of resistance and i think when the media that wants to say positive things about your new coach i i tend to be a b leham cohen could bomb i'm going to give him a b because i think he's on the right side but this thing was met with absolutely resistance by people, and that includes the local media. And that press conference from air quotes to, this is the biggest risk I've ever taken,

that wasn't good. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, we've got to revisit your Bill's Sean McDermott take. I'll go lukewarm a take earlier. Josh Allen is defending his head coach despite the playoff failures.

Here's Alan talking about his faith in Sean McDermott. It's going to sound weird. I'm just so proud of coach. You know, I don't know why he's not recognized more in the award stuff. That's the cruddy thing about it, but you know, time in and time out. He's got us in position. You know, we've won the AFC East. the last time every how many so years.

And obviously we're fighting to get over that hump. You know, and he gives his life to this. I will tell you that he's so committed to doing whatever it takes. Yeah, I don't think anybody thinks McDermott's a bad coach, but this is the fourth time he's gone to a podium. And after the game, when you get off the blaming the refs, introspection leads to the same questions, which is they're not as good situationally as Kansas City is.

So do you remember when Steph Curry and Clay Thompson had Mark Jackson as their head coach? And they were like on the come-up. Everyone said, oh, this team, I think they got out of the first round. And then the next year they lost in the first round. Defensive coach. Yes. In seven games and they decided we're going to move on from Mark Jackson. Everyone was like, whoa, whoa, wait.

And they bring in Steve Kerr. He tweaks one little thing and they make the jump to light speed and they're a dynasty. I don't know that that's the same thing as this McDermott situation. I don't know that a new coach, a new voice. is going to come in and just give them that extra and put them over the hump. I don't think anybody, including myself, is insinuating he needs to be fired. He's too good of a coach. But I do think we need to illuminate a truth is that the nuance of Kansas City's play calling by Spags and Andy Reed

in crisis high leverage moments was once again against Buffalo, spectacular. And Buffalo's had you wondering, why aren't you giving James Cook who had a monster game the ball, So we're just led. This is not this guy's a bomb. It's this just may be the reality of Tiger and Mickelson in their prime. Is tigers usually going to come away with the win? I mean, at the same time, I would say Dalton Kincaid, the ball bounces off his forearm. Yeah.

He catches that. Maybe we're having a different discussion. That's fair. You know, and then McDermott's celebrated. He's a knocked up. Also, if the 13. seconds was nine, maybe Mahalms doesn't win, but it was

13 seconds. No, no, certainly. It's just so close. The margin for error is so thin. But you're on to something with the cook thing, because I'll tell you this, Siriani, Kellan Moore, they're not going to back off running Sequin Barclay in the Super Bowl. They're not going to all of a sudden be like, hey, let's start throwing the football in the second half. You know what's funny?

It's not happening. You know, it's funny. I think about this all the time. Have you ever watched a game and wondered, if I was a coach, what would I do? All the time. So that when I watch games, I'm trying to guess play calling. It's futile with Kansas City. I never know what they're going to do in crisis. With Buffalo, I knew what they were going to do. You know, on fourth down, like I knew what they're going to do. But it's interesting because the first thing I think of as a consumer, as a sportscaster, watching games when you get two

minutes left is, I think this every time, get the ball to the guys having the best games. So for Buffalo, I was thinking, Matt Collins, James Cook, get him the ball. Collins had a couple of huge plays. James Cook was a monster. So my take was. get those guys the ball. And so when you don't go to James Cook and you have three and a half minute, and as you know, you want to eat as much clock as you can

because it's Mahomes. So my take is run the ball here a couple times. Like, eat some clock. So Mahomes gets it, you know, and there's no time left. It was a tough one for the Buffalo Bills. Next up, Colin, let's go back to Coach Prime. Remember this time last week

we were talking about the possibility he could be coaching the Cowboys, but it seemed like it never progressed beyond that initial conversation. Brian Schottenheimer was introduced yesterday as the new head coach, and Jerry addressed his talk with Dion. Just a conversation about the team and about where he is and his boys, conversation with his boys, that type of conversation.

Was he a candidate? Again, I've said I've talked to a lot of coaches, and Dion has a job. He does. It's funny. I just see that scrum around the owner after introducing the head coach. We had, what, seven new head coaches this offseason so far? Do you remember any owners like holding court and taking a billion questions? It's just, I'm out on this, man.

I don't like it. We all know that Lakers, although playing well now, Cowboys, big brands that don't feel quite as buttoned up as we maybe like. But I think the last couple of days with the Cowboys, the Friday news jump and yesterday's press conference feel different. This is not me just being media guy trying to be harsh. When I watched the news dump and I watched that press conference, I was like, man, this is old Al Davis.

This is getting sad. This is not close. By the way, Dax's coming off a second injury. He was never as mobile after the first. I mean, we saw Kirk Cousins after the injury. Aaron struggled for two months. Kirk struggled at the end of the season. We don't know what we're getting with Dak Prescott

on the second archery. Because generally, the savior to problems in the league is getting the quarterback right. We may get less of Dak. Expensive Dak, who's less Dak. That's what should really concern. I would guess this will be the season we talk the least about the Cowboys this coming season.

You and I didn't spend a ton of time on them. Well, they were not great this year. You're right. But I think they're going to be even worse next year. Oh, yeah. I don't see a path to success for them. especially in that division. It's Philly and Washington all day. If the Giants land Shadur Sanders, I will pick the Cowboys for fourth.

Because I think Shadur is mature enough. I had dinner with the GM last night, and I asked him about Shadur Sanders, and he said, big enough. He goes, I wish he weighed a little more. He goes, accurate, moving, accurate pocket, mature. He's like, he's a nice prospect. He's going to succeed early. He throws a beautiful ball. he can also, he throws players open, you know, which a lot of college guys to the pros, they're not quite there yet. Shadur knows how to.

That's dad, and that's Shadoor. He knows how to throw guys open, which is a skill to be learned on Sundays. So I think if the Giants can somehow land him, I'd pick him for third. Wow. Final story is Anthony Davis. Boy, he was cooking last night. 42 and 23 against the Hornets. That comes on the heels with a 33.

six and 13 against the Warriors. Playing while. AD has had a double-double in 11 of his last 12 games, and yet here he is still complaining about wanting a center, but he dominated last night. Lakers, shocker. I mean, I know this, Charles Barkley could not imagine this is possible, but they look really good.

Eight games over 500? No. Fifth in the West? Lakers are a contender in the West, period. It's a fact right now. And what they want to do is get bigger. Yeah. So what the Lakers would like to do is get bigger,

and I read a story yesterday. They have made overtures and calls to get bigger. Well, Valentuna's is the guy that everybody knows. They wanted in the offseason. There's somebody for the Utah Jazz. They're interested in as well. Young player for the Utah. Oh, Kessler?

Yes. I don't know that they'll get him. They're just interested in Kessler. So my takeaway is I was very anti-Anthony Davis two years ago. But I can now admit, over the last two years, whether it's work ethic, weight training. I know you love Jason Tatum. That's my guy. Anthony Davis, tell me I'm wrong as a top five player in the league right now.

Rebounding, shot blocking, scoring, matchup, defense. I'll give you top ten. I don't know about top five. Who's better, him or Tatum right now? Tatum! Oh, God, no. Stop. I would take Anthony Davis in a big game over Jason Tatum 10 out of ten times.

You like to, first of all, size, shot blocking. I mean, there are times. Anthony Davis has fallen into a... You can tell a guy's great. When Anthony Davis is on the floor, you cannot turn the game on. Your eyes go right to Anthony Davis. There are Celtic games where I've seen Tatum in playoff games. I'm like, is he on the floor?

Is he hiding from the ball? Listen, AD's put up great numbers. It's against the Hornets and Warriors. Two also rands in the league right now with no bigs. Okay? So, you know, you want to roll tape of AD against Yokic in the playoffs? Yokicch eats him alive. Hey, Jeff.

So I like AD a lot. He's a top 10 player for sure. Um, let's just, let's slow it out on better than Tate. Social media guy, Wes, Tatum Anthony Davis, who would you take today next five years? Come on, that's a no-brainer. Tatum's younger, less injury prone, better three-point shooter. Anthony Davis, injury-prone was a label.

Last couple years, I don't see it. He's been healthy since Barclay and those clowns stop bagging on him. They called him street clothes. And he's like, I'm going to man up, and now he's not getting hurt. And he has. He has. He is, I think, last year I thought he was the best defensive player in the year. I thought it was outrageous.

Well, Wembe Nama, but yeah. Yeah, but, no, but I mean, on a nightly basis, physicality, Wemba's going to get six blocks a game for the rest of his life or five or whatever he gets. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. Do you have an earth story or is that it?

No, no, we'll stick it to three unless you want me to expand to four. I got tons of stuff. Do you have another one? Not right now, but I can. He just manufactures stuff. All right. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The herd line. Can I just say this? So, Pat Riley has eight rings, nine, if you count, getting a ring as an assistant coach. Pat Riley is the ultimate winner in this league currently working in the league. There was Red Arbock, there's Phil Jack. Pat Riley wins everywhere.

He wants a player. He wants a coach. He wants an assistant. He wants a GM. And there's a thing going on in Miami where old school Pat will not bend to Jimmy Butler. and I would just like to say, this is why Pat Riley remains

the smartest GM in this league. He will not bend. I like Daryl. He has pandered Joe L.M.B. He gave Joe L.M.B. to contract, an extension, and about an hour later, M. Bid said, oh, by the way, no more back-to-backs.

Excuse me? And I think this league, I mean, if the NFL was the NBA, Aaron Rogers is still in Greenback. Too many GMs in this league cave. Bob Myers, smart guy, was so uncomfortable moving off old Clay Thompson. He retired a television. And Pat Riley is like, I'm sorry.

I moved off Prime LeBron. I'm moving off old Jimmy Butler. And a lot of general managers in this league cave, and he will not. I mean, the Colts in the NFL moved off Peyton Manning. Payton Manning. The Niners moved off Joe Montana. The Packers moved off Favre and Aaron Rod. I mean, that's, you, I am all for paying the great players.

You cannot pan, I mean, what were the Clippers doing with Coahe Leonard, who's not a leader, who's rarely available, has a little bit of an off-putting personality. What are you doing? I don't get it. Has it paid off? So I got to tell you, I would say this, Joel Embed played 13-9 games last year. He's got 13 so far this year, and they give him a $200 million extension. and my guess, according to reports, it'll get the GM fired.

So I look at this Jimmy Butler situation, and I understand people always say, well, nobody goes to watch the general manager. Well, nobody's going in Kansas City to watch Brett Veach, the general manager, but Brett Veach ultimately has the call to move off Tyreek Hill. Is that any business can't be run solely by the employees. It doesn't matter what business. Well, nobody goes to watch. You know what, nobody's going to watch Pat Riley.

Nine rings. nine rings if you count the assistant coach ring eight if you don't and i totally respect this is that he's just like dude we're not i moved off prime lebron i'm not i'm not i'm not doing it and i think this is how you have to run a business and i have heard for a year i this is the other one you hear from nba media and it's complete nonsense hey if you don't take care of jimmy butler players they won't want to play in Miami. Yeah, 81 degrees. Aquawan are beautiful people in the winter. Nobody will want to play there. They'll all want to play in Cleveland. Players will always want to play in Miami. By the way, sources are the Warriors are one of several teams in the mix for Jimmy Butler.

Now the heat have lowered their asking price for the record. I don't think, I think Golden State's an interesting place for him because they have a superstar in Steph Curry and they're trying to find a B-plus guy to play with him. Like, that one works. But in Miami, we don't have that. We don't have Steph Curry. So I'm not going to make Jimmy Butler my star going forward. Like, we had a run.

It was great. He got beat up a little in the postseason. So I don't buy for a second. Remember when Portland wasn't going to pay Dame? And so he goes to Milwaukee in the sense is, well, if you don't pay Dame, players always take care of players. Employees take care of employees. Ask yourself, if somebody came to you and doubled your money in your life,

but they didn't treat a previous employee maybe perfectly that was getting a little older, would you say, well, they didn't treat that old guy as well as they should have? I'm not going to better my family. I'm not going to better my personal economy. It doesn't matter. Miami will always be attractive. It's a winter sport. And Miami's got the best weather in America in the winter.

aqua blue water white sand beaches great city to have fun if you're a young guy beautiful people I like what they're doing J-Mack maybe next hour we'll go to four stories I'm here I am here

what are you running out of material? No you're my young coordinator I don't want you to know you have opportunities You know what happens to the young coordinators They leave they get scooped up So I'm going to give you I'll talk to my agent

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Russell Wilson to a deal. And it's very hard for me to watch Mahomes face Josh Allen this weekend or watch Jaden Daniels face Jalen Hertz this weekend and think Justin Fields or Russell Wilson are the answer. They're both

fine. But I think when you care about stability over ultimate success, you feel stale. And that's That's Pittsburgh. Loyalty makes you blind to opportunity. And when Big Ben was aging, they did not address quarterback.

They drafted one quarterback, Mason Rudolph, third round. Ben got upset, criticized him after the draft. And then they just pretended the future a quarterback didn't matter. They just buried their head. They have, for the last three years, the most expensive defense in the league, and they are projected next year for the fourth straight year to have the most expensive defense in the league. It's a defensive culture.

They're a better version of the Bears. It's that it's all about defense. They've just hit on some good quarterback, great quarterbacks. But, I mean, remember, when I say you have to move T.J. Watt, or like a Cam Hayward, that level of player, they freak out. Well, what is it getting you? I watched you get housed by Baltimore, trailing 21-0. What does it get you to trade?

George Pickens, who is not a leader. I'd rather have him, but I would move off a T.J. Watt. You guys went and paid big money for a safety Minka Fitzpatrick. And that year your quarterback was Duck Hodges. New name for this franchise. The Pittsburgh Stalers. They are a stale franchise. And our graphic department did an excellent job with a stale, moldy piece of bread on the

helmet. We are strongly recommending this going forward. The Pittsburgh Stalers. They are outdated. They spend too much money on defense. They have no urgency at quarterback. They drafted Mason Rudolph, third round. Very early, the sense was backup.

Big Ben got angry, and they were like, we don't want to make Big Ben mad. Listen, Aaron and Farve didn't like when the Packers went out and drafted the heir apparent to them. Then the brakes. That's the brakes. I mean, Tom Brady didn't like Jimmy Garoppolo around. The Patriots drafted a quarterback every second, third year for 20 years.

So, you know, it's, I was reading this this morning, in ink magazines, a business magazine that has a line. One of the main reasons why a business fails is because somebody is overly loyal and refusing to adjust. It's the loyalty that prevents a company from pivoting and trying something new. Like, loosen the grip on loyalty and defense. Again, I think Russell Wilson and Justin Fields are fine. But you watch this weekend, Jaden Daniels, Alan Mahomes.

I'm telling you, when Jalen Hertz is humming, he's an elite quarterback, too. That's just not good enough, if that's your plan. So I've said this. The Jets worry me a little bit. But I'll tell you where I think the Jets and the Raiders are not that far. away. So in the last two years, we have seen Sean Payton go to Denver with a rookie quarterback

and the most dead cat money in the league and make the playoffs. We've seen the laughing stock Houston Texans in one year, laughing stock to playoffs in the AFC. And this year, Washington from a hazmat spill of a franchise,

a toxic franchise to the NFC championship in one year. Now, now, the Jets have a good roster, and the Raiders roster is, I think, better than people think. They have their tackles, their center, a weapon in Brock Bowers. They have Max Crossbeat. Defense was beat up last year, but they got some talent.

They actually have their own line, their tight end. They need the number one back and a number one receiver and a quarterback, and I don't think the Raiders are that far away. But here's where the Raiders and the Jets are very interesting. So I would bring Aaron Rogers back. and this whole thing is getting Aaron Glenn and other people worked up. Aaron Glenn was asked yesterday about Aaron Rogers.

They're all getting a little defensive on this stuff. And what will your process be? Like, will you go meet with Aaron? I know you guys. We've already ticked Aaron, and we and lose you and sit there, and we don't know a lot, watch every game tank there is. And then we've got to look at the whole roster. This thing is not about Aaron Rogers, folks.

This is about the roster. We plan on build the best roster that we can. So whatever that may be, guard, tackle, defense tackle. That's what we evaluate. And listen, everybody's on the microscope. That's just what it is. So I think the Raiders and the Jets are very similar.

They both need a quarterback for the future. Both have a high first round pick and a second pick. So what I would do if I was the Jets, I would get a weapon with the first pick, not a quarterback. I'd go get Tyler Warren, the Penn State, tight end, or T-MAC, the receiver. If I was the Raiders, I would do that, If I was the Jets, I would do that.

Either get the receiver for Arizona or the tight-end Penn State. Both could and maybe should be available. With both of your second picks, I would go get, if available, because you're both at the top of the second round, near the top, I would go get Kyle McCord, the quarterback for Syracuse. I think he's the dark horse player in the draft, Kyle McCord, Syracuse. So in both instances, the Jets and the Raiders need a weapon on the perimeter. Because Garrett Wilson's not happy.

Devante Adams expensive. And both need a quarterback. And I think keeping Aaron for one year and the Raiders getting Kirk Cousins similarly on the cheat for a year is the answer. So you have a grown-up in the room that can help mentor the young second-round quarterback. Because Kyle McCord right now to me is the fastest. rising dark horse player in the draft, especially at quarterback. People like Jackson Dart, too. So I don't think this stuff takes forever.

I've watched Denver with their dead cap money and a rookie quarterback. Houston was a mess. Washington had to replace everybody in the building. I think the Jets have a good roster. I think it's defensively. It's a very good roster. They need another weapon on offense. Aaron for a year, I'm totally comfortable with it.

And the Raiders, they have two tackles. They got their center from Oregon. They've got an unbelievable best tight-end prospect in years. They ended a quarterback and another receiver. I don't think rebuilds. We've seen it now. The last two years, it's not that difficult.

This idea that you bail on Aaron Rogers, no. Make him Kirk Cousins. They both are old. They both have a surgery. Both played well for about half a last season. Kirk the first half, Aaron, the second half. We've seen it. There are

franchises that I wouldn't want to be. I think Carolina, Bryce Young's getting better. I think there's limitations to them, but at least it's a bad division. Jets are not going to beat the bills. They can be a playoff team. Raiders are not going to beat the Chiefs. It wouldn't shock me if they're a playoff team.

It really wouldn't. So this stuff, I think the Jets getting a little worked up and a little defensive on Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers will be your ally for a year. Kirk Cousins in Vegas. He's an ally. A mentor in the building, one more year. That's about what they have left.

Aaron's got maybe two and go draft the quarterback of the future. But I feel like everybody's defensive about Aaron. Make him your ally. Make him the mentor. Get him another weapon. They'll be fine. See, J. Mack, there's the optimistic, Colin. Glass half full.

I know you guys are freaking out. But we've learned something in the NFL. When you overreact emotionally because of disappointment, you're not, there's a certain fog of defeat. Like, oh, it's the officials. No, it was play calling in Buffalo. Well, Aaron's terrible. Actually, no, the last 10 games, we brought it on the show yesterday.

Aaron was very B-plus, and he could be. And Aaron's, you know, say what you want about Aaron, but he was helpful in Jordan Love. He's not Brett Farber. He's a little rigid, a little defensive. Aaron's been a good mentor to young players. He gets along, you know, what Jordan Love speaks highly of him. Why couldn't he do the same for the Syracuse quarterback? The messaging here strikes me as a little bit of Russell Wilson in Denver,

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