The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 – Happy New Year!

Episode Date: January 1, 2025

Today on The Herd, Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington fill-in and tell critics to stop complaining about the new College Football Playoff format. 49ers Owner Jed York backs the Lynch-Shanahan regime. Plus..., the Cowboys release Ezekiel Elliott and much more! #2prosSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:04 You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. I would like to say this and we are efforting catching up with Labar Arrington. By the way, is in Arizona where his Penn State Nittany Lions took care of business last night and took care of business against Boise State. And the game kind of played out pretty much how he expected the game to play out. that Boise State was going to battle because they play hard. If Ashton Gentie didn't have a big-time monster performance, then Boise State was going to be up against it.
Starting point is 00:03:39 But ultimately, Penn State was the better team. They were favored by 11, 12 points, whatever it closed at, going into the game for a reason, and Penn State got it done. And so what we've gotten thus far through the first five games of the college football playoff, this new expanded 12-team college football playoff. What we've gotten is basically chalk. You've gotten all the results that you expected, and you've gotten, for the most part, pretty uncompetitive games.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And so the feeling would be, all right, well, then what was the point of this? I mean, I thought this was supposed to add some intrigue. I thought this was supposed to add some new layer to college football. I thought the college football playoff was supposed to give us a different viewpoint and a different look and a different vibe when it comes to the entire thing. So what was the point? And my pushback on that would be what's the complaint? Like there is no guarantees that when you go into this thing that you're going to get good games. There's no guarantees.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And I got news for you. There's no guarantees you're going to get good games whenever you turn on football or basketball or basketball or. baseball. Like, there's no guarantees. You ever gone to a movie, walked in, been like, man, really excited about this thing. Half hour in, you're like, this sucked out loud. It happens. Now, you could be one of those people who walks up to the person who ripped your ticket, who probably doesn't want to be there anyways and be like, hey, movie didn't live up to my
Starting point is 00:05:20 expectations. Can I get my 1325 back? And by the way, the popcorn was a little dry. You could take that approach. You could be one of those nerds who after Manny Pachia fought Floyd Mayweather and people shelled out $100 to watch the fight who went and complained afterwards and said, I paid $100 for this and it didn't live up to my expectations. Okay. And then they found out Manny Pachial had like a torn rotator cuff and they thought, you know what? He should have disclose that before the fight because otherwise I would have felt a lot differently about shelling out my $100. Dude, what are you bitching about?
Starting point is 00:06:02 If the guy didn't fight, you would have complained then if you would have pulled out last minute and canceled. But this is the problem when it comes to college football. No matter what, you're going to have a complaint. Because I got news for you. It could have been a 12-team playoff. It could have been a 16-team playoff. you could have thrown in 20 teams
Starting point is 00:06:25 Christ, you could have done a 64 team field like college basketball and somebody somewhere would have found a way to complain because that's what it is. That's what college football has bred. Complaints. Like every single story that comes out of college football, somebody's on the opposite side pounding the table against it. Cam Ward decides, hey, you know what,
Starting point is 00:06:53 I want to go chase a record and then I want to sit out the second half. How dare he? Wait, wait, what? It was a Pop-Tarts bowl. Like, you literally had an unhealthy, toasted strudel
Starting point is 00:07:11 jump out of a giant fake toaster at the end of the game and people were pissed because some guy didn't participate at all of it. What are we talking about here. Did you see the Cheez-It Bowl yesterday? You had people get married at the Cheez-It-It-Bull. It's the Cheez-It-Bull. Like, there was a guy sitting in a jacuzzi filled with crackers.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Talking about the snack, not trying to win an Antonio Brown Award. But if he wants to hand out any more of those, I'll gladly accept. But the point is, no matter. what, there's going to be a complaint and there's going to be a problem. And I looked at last night, VAR, and I thought to myself, you know what? Hey, Penn State took care of business. Boise State played hard, but I would not rather go back to a four-team college football playoff because at least you gave the underdog a chance in that spot. I mean, they weren't the underdog. They were ranked higher. They came in, seated higher. They had a buy week because of what they accomplished during the season.
Starting point is 00:08:27 I think that there's going to always be debates of why people like something and why they don't. Otherwise, there wouldn't be any topics. Like, nobody's ever going to get a perfect scenario for a playoff. And you're not always like, to me,
Starting point is 00:08:44 I've been really thinking about this, right? It's like they're saying their commitment is to get the best teams into the playoff. And so there's. all these different variables, your strength of schedule and stuff like that. There's all these different variables. But at the end of the day, Jonas, you set up the schedule. You know what the schedule is coming in, right? So if a team wins out with their schedule knowing when they come into the season that it's not a schedule that's strong enough to outweigh the other schedules that are out there, then I would say you judge it based off.
Starting point is 00:09:26 of that if you want to try and do it based off of strength of schedule. But at the end of the day, I think to me, if you win your conference and if you're a team that that has shown with their record, if like say it's an independent like Notre Dame, if you've shown with your record that you should be in the playoff, then be in the playoff. And let's line them up. Let's do the playoff. and who wins, wins, who loses, loses. I just think that it gets crazy to me
Starting point is 00:10:00 because here's the narrative. Here's the narrative. Oh, these aren't the best teams. The best teams aren't in there. Alabama should have been in there. Alabama just lost yesterday. Alabama lost. Like, oh, this team, this team should have been in there.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Miami should have been in there. Miami lost. Okay, oh, you had opt-outs. Maybe the opt-outs play. Maybe Cam Ward plays. I don't care. They lost. They lost.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So there is no justification for saying some of these teams that didn't play in the playoff should have been in the playoff because some of those teams have lost their bowl games that they're playing in. So to me, if a team gets granted and earns the opportunity to be in the playoff and the bracket is made, shut the F up and enjoy the bracket. Enjoy the games. Like what else is there to it? I don't understand why there's such.
Starting point is 00:10:55 outrage. If Boise beats, if Boise beats Penn State are people complaining. If Indiana beats Notre Dame are people complaining. If the lower seat teams that get in beat the higher seat teams are people still complaining. They'll probably find something different, a different narrative to complain about. But they're still going to be complaining. You're not going to make all of the pundits happy. You're not going to make all of the fans happy. You're not going to make everybody happy with what it is that the college playoff represents. So keep the number the same. I love the fact that there's a bracket and a tournament that has this many teams.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I like the fact that you have matchups and the matchups have been made by the schedule makers, by the bracket makers, the tournament makers. Just accept it for what it is and enjoy it. My God, what is all of the outrage for all of the time? It's weird. And for the people that are like, well, it's not the best teams. All right. Well, you know how you determine the best teams?
Starting point is 00:12:00 You play games during the regular season. And this is, you know, this is going to be a weird concept. But if you win a lot of those and don't lose a lot of those, you are determined to be the best team in college football. And there were teams that lost less than Miami and Alabama. Thus, they got in and Miami and Alabama didn't. That's the way this works. I understand strength the schedule. Yeah, the best teams don't always perform well enough to make it in.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Like that's just the bottom line. They might have been a better team, but something happened that said, okay, they're not the best team or they didn't play the best game. Like that could have been Notre Dame with that Northern Illinois's loss, right? Illinois. Like, that could have been a, you know, that could have been something that kept them out. You know, you just never know. It's just there's so, people are.
Starting point is 00:12:53 so conditioned to complain and bitch about college football that they can't and everything yeah and they can't they can't just let it be listen there's no guarantees that you're going to get a good game every single time and so so penn state did what they've supposed to what they were supposed to do in the first two games and they were in a game yes they were and that was a game last night Like that, people weren't, people were nervous in the stadium. It was a game. The game didn't look like the SMU game where SMU completely melted. I mean, they couldn't handle the conditions.
Starting point is 00:13:31 They couldn't handle the stage. They looked like they were rattled from the get-go. Like, there were opportunities. Like, it wasn't a clean game for Penn State. They turned the ball over. We turned the ball over, yes. So I came away from that going, Penn State did what they should have done. And I thought Boise State represented themselves well, but it played out how,
Starting point is 00:13:49 you would have expected it. If they could stop Ashton Genti, which they did for the most part, then they were going to have success. Like I look at it and I think. What's the beef? What's the beef? And I think that also there's a lot of people that hold on to the narratives that you have about certain programs or coaches going into things.
Starting point is 00:14:11 And you know the narrative about James Franklin. Well, he doesn't win big games. He doesn't win big games. Look at his record against this team, this team and this team. blah, blah, blah. So the hope is... It's two teams. So the hope is... You got beef with James Franklin over two teams? It's two teams. So the hope is we need James Franklin to lose so we could hold on to the take that we had three weeks ago when they lost to Ohio State or they lost to Oregon.
Starting point is 00:14:36 It's like... I just, I look at it and I think to myself, we're better off this way. And I'm one of those people that I didn't agree with expanding past four teams. I thought, no, four is fine. If you're going to do anything, go to six, give a bye to the first two. And then you have your semi-funt. And then I start to look at it and go, first of all, I'm arguing upstream because it's more money and the money dictates everything. So it's going to happen regardless.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And secondly, it's the first year. We don't know. Look, we don't know how these games. Arizona State could upset Texas. We don't know. Is all of a sudden the college football playoff going to be worthwhile because Arizona State upsets to upsets Texas? Like there's no guarantees you're going to get good matchups.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Do you remember watching Super Bowl? Bulls in the 80. There was like a stretch to where every Super Bowl was a blowout for like nine, 10 years in a row. I didn't see people complaining like, oh, they've got to redo this whole Super Bowl thing. No, you just understood, hey, best team from this conference, best team from that conference. They get together. Hopefully we get a good game, but there's no guarantees. That's the point, Jonas. Sports are sports. Like, if you're not a decision maker for the playoff, watch the games and enjoy the games. Like, why does there have to be a game? Like, why does there to be all these conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:15:51 And like I said, for sports talk radios, for sports talk television, podcasting and all, I get it. But the more people try to sound smart about it, the dumber they sound. Like, let it play out. It's a game. You play the game. And if you've earned the right by what took place during the season, if you're in there, and I don't care about you arguing, well, maybe you didn't earn the right. Yeah, you did because you're in.
Starting point is 00:16:20 You got in. So if you got in, you got in. Play the games. Play the games. The brackets are the brackets. Play the games. Like, if it's what you expect it, good. Bet money.
Starting point is 00:16:31 If you're so brilliant, bet money and become a billionaire. Bet all your money. Go bet your house, your home, your kids, your wife, your husband, whoever. Go bet it all. If you got it so figured out, go bet it all. If these teams aren't supposed to be here that you're saying and this time, bet it all. go ahead, give it all up.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Let's see how confident you're. Let me tell you. Look, I've been pounding the table for we've got to start building this stuff around gambling because it makes things interesting when they probably shouldn't be. And I'll say this, when Boise State was driving down the field and it looked like they were going to score that garbage time touchdown, that would have impacted a significant amount of bets who had Penn State minus 11. They're holding on to that 17 point lead and people are sweating their balls off thinking
Starting point is 00:17:16 of themselves, oh, God, I'm going to lose here. on a garbage time touchdown, but Penn State picked it off in the end zone, and it saved the day. Find something compelling about it. If you get a plain piece of chicken at a restaurant, ask for some hot sauce. Gambling is the hot sauce of sports,
Starting point is 00:17:35 and people need to start embracing it, for Christ's sake. I love that. That's a T-shirt. Damn right. If you don't like a regular wing, get some dipping sauce. Yeah, because if you don't put buffalo sauce on a wing, What is it?
Starting point is 00:17:49 It's a damn drumstick. Making a buffalo wing. Unbelievable. Oh, man, that is a shirt. By the way, well, we'll save, we'll get details from you throughout the course of the show on what Arizona looked like out there. Arizona was, bro, it was New Year's Eve. It's New Year's Day. What?
Starting point is 00:18:13 All I can tell you is, if you've ever been to Scottsdale, Arizona, Sheesh. On a regular day, on a regular weekend, you know, they call it Sunday, fun day around here, you know, because Sunday is like the day that's like they're deemed Friday or Saturday for most places, right? If you've ever been here for that, you know what the environment is in Scottsdale. I've never been here for, I've never been here for, for New Year's. I've never been here for New Year. and I ain't never coming back. And I don't know why I'm doing this show today.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Can't do it. Can't do it. But there's a reason why a lot of retired baseball players retire in Arizona because they go out there for spring training during the course of their career and they go, you know what? It's the taxes. They come out here. It's purely because of the taxes. That's right.
Starting point is 00:19:10 It's that blonde tax. O-M-G. It's that silicone tax. attacks. Damn. Damn. They called them mountain out here, a camelback mountain.
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Starting point is 00:20:03 What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a podcast. A pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of, podcast is out there.
Starting point is 00:20:17 But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my love. little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Starting point is 00:24:34 We'll have the details on that for you here on Fox Sports Radio. So, Var, I mean, this is just a real stunter. You talk about breaking news out of the NFL. Niners owner Jed York has told the San Francisco standard that Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch aren't going anywhere which is which is a real which I got to tell you. Do we have the breaking news?
Starting point is 00:25:03 Do we have the breaking news effect? Can we do that again? You know what? Chris, do you have the breaking news? I don't want, I don't want to get mad at me. All right, all right. You talk about news that. really knocked my D in the dirt.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Foof. Just a real stutter. Oh, this was, this was thrown out there. This was thrown out there. It's not to take shots. And Mike Florio does a great job.
Starting point is 00:25:35 But this was thrown out there as a, hey, what if from Mike Florio that for some reason spread like wildfire. I don't get it. I didn't understand. understand it. Oh, maybe the Bears should call up Kyle Shanahan and the Niners. Because it feels like it's run its course.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Dude, they had a down year coming off a Super Bowl. I'm not saying the window hasn't closed as far as this window, this championship window for the 49ers. But getting rid of those guys doesn't exactly open up another one quicker. Like, it feels like... It's rebuilt. Yeah, like it feels like now you're building, finding a new coach, finding a new GM.
Starting point is 00:26:15 like everybody wants a Kyle Shanahan branch off the tree when they hire coaches now. Why would the Niners let him walk for any reason whatsoever other than he just wanted out of there, which he doesn't? And I think the same thing exists for John Lynch as well. If you're going to have to rebuild a team, like that team went to two Super Bowls, correct? Yeah. Like Cal Shanahan and John Lynch, they take the kind of core pieces of. of that 49ers team, and they've gone to multiple Super Bowls,
Starting point is 00:26:50 and they've had a ton of success. They add Christian McCaffrey. It looked as though they were going to have more success than what they did before. Maybe that takes them over the top. But you dealt with injuries. I mean, they might, if Green Law doesn't go down in that Super Bowl, maybe that Super Bowl plays out differently. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:09 You know, there's so many different things that have happened to this, this 49ers team injury-wise that you would say, if this didn't happen, where are they at? Right. If the lights don't go out, where are they at? You know, which that was horrible. But I'm just saying at the end of the day, the 49ers have had some things happen to them where you'd be like, if this didn't happen, what could have been? If I'm going to have to start over because of contracts, because of players that are, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:44 injured or retiring or whatever it may be, if I'm going to rebuild, I'm not looking for a different GM and a different coach than John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan to do it. Like, I'm just not. So it really is kind of a comical conversation because the team that they have right now, sure, sure they've underperformed this year. but when you take a good heart look at the body of work and what they've had to do with main pieces, these weren't these weren't just, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:23 cogs of the machine that you could just replace. These were main guys, Trent Williams, going down. Like, he's arguably, I mean, he's up there with the greatest offensive tackles to ever play the game. He's down. He's hurt, you know. Iyute goes out. So now your number one threat,
Starting point is 00:28:42 your downfield threat, he's not even there. After you spent a whole entire offseason, trying to figure out what you were going to do with the situation. Debo Samuels was dealing with injuries this year. Brock Purdy was dealing with injuries this year, still dealing with them now. Your whole team was decimated. Greenlaw couldn't come back.
Starting point is 00:29:03 He tried. He couldn't even come back. You were decimated with just as much as a team like Detroit, you know, you could look at Detroit's injuries and say that there are, you know, there were there been reasons for them not to do well at some point based off all of those injuries. Well, it happened to San Fran this year. They weren't able to overcome their injuries.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I don't think it was coaching. I don't think it was the way that the team is being ran by the GM. And I just think that you ran into a situation where you had to navigate what you had to navigate. It was done. It was a snake bit. year. I mean, like all the stuff that happened before the year, McCaffrey, you know, to your point, the injury that was really mysterious, they thought he was going to play the first week of the season. And then I was like, uh, no, maybe he's going to be out until November. Wait, what? Like that,
Starting point is 00:29:54 he, like, that wasn't anywhere on the injury report that, or we were told about. And then you had the, the, the, the Brandon Ayuk injury. And before the season, it was his contract. And, and, you know, there was issues at practice where he didn't want to wear the same color pants or shorts as everybody. Like, there was just always something. You had a. guy gets shot. Pierceau got shot at three in the afternoon in San Francisco because somebody wanted his Rolex. Like it just like it felt like everything that was going to go wrong with this, that could
Starting point is 00:30:25 go wrong for this team went wrong this year. And one of the things that I do think is so they talk about, well, you know, they've gotten to the Super Bowl where they've come up short. So they need to make some changes. First of all, you came up short to Patrick Mahomes. secondly, you probably should have won both those games. And thirdly, you remember the conversation that everyone always has about Joe Gibbs? They talk about, oh, you know, listen, he's won a Super Bowl with all these different quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Like, you're given a certain amount of credit if you can do it with different guys and it's not just the same quarterback every time. Dude, Kyle Shanahan took Jimmy Garoppolo and Brock Purdy to the Super Bowl. like it's not like he's had a one year oh listen it was this one time and other than that they've fallen apart like no no like he's taken multiple and been a part of multiple teams with different looks at that position to the Super Bowl I don't know what ever what more evidence you need to understand that yeah this guy kind of knows what he's doing kind of knows how to build around that position here well in Washington's case they could have won with any quarterback because of the personnel that they had, you know, with the hogs, you know, with their backfield, with their receivers, with the posse, you know, they could have won with any quarterback. And they did win with any quarterback. I think this is a different situation with San Francisco. And I think that you've seen a team with Calh Shanahan evolved through the years.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I think his offensive prowess has been a tremendous asset to him, but he's ultimately going to have to adjust and adapt and evolve if he's going to continue to have the success. What was new, fresh, but yet mixed and meshed in with the old way of how things were done, like how his father did things with the offenses and the brilliance that he was able to bring with that zone blocking scheme. Well, Cal Shanahan evolved it and molded it
Starting point is 00:32:38 in a way where he made it his. And I think he's got to do it again. I think he's got to do it again. They got to stay healthy. They got to figure out who's going to be on this roster. And I think it just kind of is as simple as that, Jonas, is that there has to be an evolution as to what he's doing offensively.
Starting point is 00:32:59 And you'd assume that he'll self-scout in the offseason. and he'll start to figure out ways that he can have more success than what he did and possibly ultimately maybe have more success even if or have success, I should say, a measure of success even if you find yourself dealing with the injuries. Because again, with what you got Ben Johnson doing and Dan Campbell in Detroit, they haven't fallen off because of injuries. If there's any team that could blame injuries for a falloff, it would have been Detroit.
Starting point is 00:33:32 And they have not. They have not fallen off. And they have been able to maintain a high level of execution. And I think that that's what these guys are going to have to focus in on in San Francisco. Yeah, I just, I don't know how that makes your team better. I don't, you know, like, well, you know, it's just, it's really run its core. Because look, look, the Raiders giving away John Gruden, like, there's probably, you know, if you were to go back and look at that and say, well, they traded away Gruden. And yeah, that's probably a regrettable moment, especially in the Super Bowl when Gruden knew exactly what plays they were running.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And that's, you know, what led to Tampa Bay winning that game. I just, sometimes this stuff is thrown out there and people just run with it. And like I said, I don't blame Florio for throwing stuff out there. Like he'll throw out and he'll speculate about stuff. And that's fine. You said throw up? Throw out. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:24 By the way, do you see any people, you know, letting it fly out there? Nobody. Real pros out here. Real pros. I can really handle it out there in Arizona. They really know how to handle their business last night. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:41 So we will, you know, listen to it. Nobody carried out nothing. Like, just, I mean, they had to kick people out. Did you make it all? Did you make it all the way to midnight? Yeah. I was out. I was out last night.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Levar was out. L.A. was out last night. But I was. in my hotel. So maybe, but I am at the ambassador. So it was, this was a vibe. It was a vibe here. Nothing better. I was underdress. I was terribly underdress, but I had just left from a football game. So I wasn't going to switch it up. You know what I mean? I just went with it. But I was terribly underdressed. Our guy, Kurt Kretschmeier, is actually making the track. He was at the game last night. He's en route. He sent me a text a little while ago saying he's driving to the Rose Bowl as we
Starting point is 00:35:31 speak. So he's on the commute from Arizona or did the Rose Bowl to watch that big one there between Oregon, Ohio State, which is going to be a beast of a game. That's going to be a lot of fun. So, yeah, listen, it looks like Arizona showed up. What was the crowd split, by the way? It might have been 60, 40, maybe 55, you know, 45 maybe.
Starting point is 00:35:58 And it was Boise. They were there, man. they they showed up but it was almost split down the line but but boise they were they were louder they were definitely louder so it felt like a boise home game um did were you were you did were you on the sidelines in like a hunting hat or something like that yeah okay so somebody uh somebody sent a uh a tweet asking if that was you so that was me yeah wasn't sure uh wasn't sure what the attire was or yeah you know it's my stick's my stick's city hat. That's all. What up sticks?
Starting point is 00:36:35 I got to stay with my son, which was really cool, who's now a member of the football team. So, you know. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, listen, it was, look, I enjoyed the game. I thought it was a fun game. Ashton Chenty got lit up after a turnover that was. That was not.
Starting point is 00:37:00 That was hunting. now. That wasn't very nice. He got his yardage, but they, hey, them boys was out there hunting him. I can guarantee you that young man is sore as hell today. Man, they was slamming him all over the place, man. And they was thumping him. So, but he's a warrior, man. I like this, I like his game, man. He definitely is a warrior and he's going to be a good one for, for years to come. He was, he was literally in a shootout. Like, Boise State was in a shootout. against Oregon. It was Dylan Gabriel against Ashton Genty.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Like he was just ripping off 70-yard runs in that game to keep him alive. So he had a fantastic year, man. Really, really good year. He had a brilliant game yesterday. I mean, you have a defense like that that's built the way that it's built up front and has
Starting point is 00:37:51 athletes on the back end. I mean, and he was still able to reach 100 yards, man. And everybody in the world, everybody in the stadium, everybody on the field, everybody knew that every play, every other play, you got to just, listen, just go after Genti every single play. Like, don't worry about anything else. Just worry about getting to Genti and he was still able to get to 100 yards.
Starting point is 00:38:19 So that's pretty special, man. I was watching the Hawaii Boise State game because I have no life. And I was watching it on, I don't even know what the name of the app is, but I think it's like Team One sports because that's the only way you can watch Hawaii games or that one might have been on CVS, whatever it was on and I was watching it earlier in the year and I'm listening to the to the
Starting point is 00:38:39 broadcasters from Hawaii be like, you know, listen I mean, look, I know the Rainbow Warriors are trailing right now but I've done done a really good job at containing Ashton Genty and he was still averaging like 7.9 yards of carry. Like every time he touched the ball he was picking up eight yards a clip.
Starting point is 00:38:56 So that looked significantly different than last night where he was getting a beating at certain points during that game. But represented themselves well, and there's some thought. I saw a mock draft that came out that some people think there's a shot. He might be a top 10 pick. So the running back is resurging. So we will see what plays out.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I wouldn't get carried away on running backs resurging. But he is, I mean, Q brought him up early on in the season. And you guys talked about him. And I started paying attention to him after that. I mean, he literally almost. beat Oregon and Oregon is the best team in in America right now. I mean, you know, it could be debatable and, you know, if it's Ohio State, but I think it's Oregon for now. And they had to beat them with a last second kick. Yeah. And that's really largely in part what Genti was able to do in
Starting point is 00:39:48 that game. So yeah, man, I give them his props. I give Boise their props. You know, they went out there and they fought and they played a, you know, it was a valiant effort if you ask me. It was not a, just a runaway game. It was not just a runaway game. It had the potential to go. There was like two or three times during that game where the momentum had clearly shifted one side to the other. And it could have gone either way at those points in time.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And so anytime you are a part of a game like that, you know, you come away from that game knowing that you were in a game and you had to win that game. They belonged there. and it was, to me, it was a super competitive game, and good for them. Good for Ashton Gentie and Boise coming in and playing the way that they did.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And hopefully their fan base got to stick around after the game and just went out and got lit up in Arizona afterwards. Some dude tried to fight me. Really? I mean, oh, he tried to fight me. I was on my way to where, you know, we were going to depart. And, you know, some of the people with me were doing the VR check. and and I guess the two dudes that were walking about one dude bumped me like like he bumped me like
Starting point is 00:41:05 and it was late like I caught on to it late Jonas you know like like did this guy just bump me I turned I didn't know what it was until I right I turned and I saw that it was a guy with Boise State orange on right so then I realized that he had bumped me on purpose you know So then it was too late. Like it would have been too late for me to run back up on him. You know what I mean? And throw down. So I let that one go.
Starting point is 00:41:35 And then we're walking. And we're not like, you know, we're not too far away from the first incident that takes place. And the people I'm with, they're saying the we are chant, this, that. And this dude goes, he looks at him. He goes, F, you effing, puss. Yeah. And then he said, look, look. And then he said, he said, you soft.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I'll whip your and I'm looking at the dude I'm going to punch your face man I went into tunnel vision bro I went to tunnel vision I almost it almost went down last night I heard because I actually did see a report on that that you lifted up your shirt and said we got a problem here
Starting point is 00:42:14 we got a problem here and then everybody kind of jumped in their convertible and sped off so yeah it could it could have been all about the burner you know what I mean go to burner.com slash LeVar, you'll get you a nice little burner. That's non-lethal rounds, people.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Damn. You know what I mean? He could have got it. He could have got popped. It is the herd. A little belligerent ass. It is the herd on Fox Sports Radio. It's LeVar Erington, Jonas Knox.
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Starting point is 00:43:05 What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a lot. call about what we should call it.
Starting point is 00:43:29 We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, for people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad,
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Starting point is 00:48:28 Zieg and wanting to provide him with an opportunity to pursue any potential playoff participation possible, we are releasing him from the Cowboys roster today, adding, as I have said many times previously, Zeeq's impact as one of the greatest to ever play with the star on his helmet will never change and is etched into our record books and history forever. Oh. Why are they not releasing Michael Parsons then? Damn.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Yeah, why Zeeke and all the good? good breaks. Yeah, give my, get my homie an opportunity to play for something. By the way, I do like how they're out of the goodness of their heart, they're releasing Zekiel Elliott to go find a playoff roster. That's like somebody who spends $75
Starting point is 00:49:06 out of an $80 gift card and says, here, man, Merry Christmas. Wait, what? There's five bucks left. What are we doing here? Do the same thing with Michael Parsons. And I want to hear the same exact statement. What else we got?
Starting point is 00:49:22 Guys, in case you missed this, Shane Beamer flipped out after in the bowl game, the cheese it bowl. After Brett Bealema was taunting him, he was checking on his injured player and then started taunting Beamer by making a motion for a substitution. Well, because they were going back and forth because there were some complaints about how long it was taking Illinois to do some of their, I guess, you know, when they were trying to bring players in and out and substituting guys. Yeah, because they go slow. You got to get them the time to get off the field when you do the substitution. So you can slow the game down that way.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Beamer was complaining and they were all chummy before the game and then when Beelma came over and did the substitution taunting to their sideline, Beamer tried to go after him. And everyone was waiting at the postgame handshake for them to potentially throw down. And it was just cordial, kind of boring, to be honest with you. But man, Illinois, give credit. You remember a couple years ago on two pros, we were having the conversation about Brett Bilema
Starting point is 00:50:23 who called out his offensive linemen and everyone's like, you can't do that to your players. What do you? Dude, he's completely turned around that program. Like completely. Yeah, they're really tough. And, you know, so it's a good story there in Champaign. What else we got, Lee? Guys, though there wasn't much to
Starting point is 00:50:39 play for, the Lions 49ers game on Monday night football was actually the most watch Monday night football game of the season, drawing 22.2 million viewers. ESPN added that it was one of the five most watch Monday night football games since they've been carrying it since 2006. Lee, why do you think that was?
Starting point is 00:50:56 Well, why do you think that was? Huh, mate, maybe fantasy football had something to do with it? A hundred percent, that's what it was. Like, that was fantasy football that had everything to do with that. Again, add a little money into things, add some gambling into your sports, and next thing you know, stuff becomes interesting. I'm telling you. It's the plastic surgery of sports.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Throw some bets on there. make it happen and all of a sudden it gets more entertaining and more watchable. Works every time. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?
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