The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Headshots & Hooters

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

C&R pay tribute to the great Gene Hackman & discuss the suspicious deaths at his home! They have a real life headshot picture thought & sports movies you never saw. If our grandparents lived in black & white, did we live in the blurry? Plus, 'OLD-SCHOOL WHEN 50 HITS' focuses in on Hooters!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You made me think of that because she said, tire rack, and I'm thinking you got to put Lou Brack. on the list. Oh, yeah, definitely Lou Brown. But what a crazy story, Gene Hackman. Because for years, so many people thought he was dead already. I remember there was a point in time where Gene Hackman

was one of those guys that was like, wait, he died, right? Oh, wait, he's around? He's alive. And then he resurfaced about a year ago. People were like, man, there he is. I thought he died. No, he's alive. And then as of today, you woke up and you got the sad news that Gene Hackman, 95 and his 64-year-old wife were found in their Santa Fe home dead with their dog.

And at first it was no foul play. They're dead. Carbon monoxide poisoning is what you heard. But as of this afternoon, you're now hearing, ooh, suspicious details. And that's odd. That's weird. Again, a 95-year-old guy, he had a great life, but they did find pills. and the wife's body next to a personal heater and weird things like that.

And it's like, well, what was going on there? And like partially embalmed or something? That's what our buddy spot was reading to us earlier. You're like, what? So details are coming out as we go. We may never know. The reality is that they're gone and what do we really need to find out? But I did have a...

But it's an odd ending to a long life and illustrious career. You know, if you live to 95 and have all that success... Yeah, rich detectives aren't going to say, oh, we'll never, we'll never know. I know. There will be an investigation, I'm sure. But I feel like if you lived to 95, that's a hell of a life and a successful life at it. But his wife was so much younger. Yeah, 30 years younger.

So it's an unfortunate story. When I heard the carbon monoxide thing, I thought, well, maybe Gene Hackman was feeling like it was coming to an end, health issues just because of old age. And maybe the wife. I was romanticizing the whole thing. And maybe the wife didn't want to live without him and they decided to go out together. Yeah, that wouldn't be fair to the dog, though. Give the dog to family or friends. They did find two other dogs that were alive.

But again, in honor of Gene Hackman and his role in Hoosiers, we're going to go over the best coaches in sports in TV and film. Again, on overpromised. And we're going to talk some nasty nester. It's a weird story, though. Yeah, man. I have a vain question. to, hey, I guess lighten it up a little bit.

If you live till 95 years old, first of all, you've won the lottery of life. Famous actor, made millions, and lived to 95. Two Oscars? I mean, here's my question. Enemy of the State, Superman, Lex Luthor. He was in the Royal Pan Ambon. He was also, wasn't he in that movie where Jennifer Love Hewitt was bouncing around in her 20s? You know what?

Heart. She was so distracting. I don't remember seeing anything but her. With a, was a Sigourney Weaver or a, yeah, I think a heartbreakers? Heartbreakers, yeah. I didn't even notice he was in it. Boing. Vane question.

When you live that long and they pay tribute to your life at your wake, your funeral, if you're a public figure like a Gene Hackman, do you want your picture to be one of you when you were a handsome young man? Because I'm seeing so many pictures of the 95-year-old went on a decrepit walk around the block. a year ago picture. And I'm like, that's not how you want Gene Hackman. Remember you want him to remember him to be remembered as the badass he was. Like I was Sam said, winning Oscars, Superman and... French connection. French connection. I think it depends

how long of a life you lived. Meaning if you died, let's say you die in your 60s, unfortunately, right? You've lived the majority of your life as a younger person. So I would think it would be fair to pick a picture in your 30s, 40s when you're still

relatively young. But, But if you were synonymous with looking like an old guy for a long time, you live just as much of your life as an old person. Why would you want to bring it back to your primo days of your 20s and 30s? It's not who you were for the latter part of your long-ass life. I know. But, all right, if you're Marlon Brando, if you're like, you want to be old fat guy in your pictures?

You want to be a streetcar named Desire of Marlon Brando? Yeah, but we work in the entertainment industry, right? Yeah. It's like the people that still have their head shots from their 20s. It's like, yo, dude, you haven't been looking like that for the past 20s. 20 years. That's also like false advertising in a weird way. I'll tell you, I think, I don't think it's a vain comment, Rich. I actually think it's a realistic comment. And not to bring anything down, but unfortunately, my mother-in-law passed away in 2018. My

father-in-law is still alive. And after that, after his wife's passing, he wanted a headshot. He wanted like a photo of himself. And so at some point, you know, like six months later or whatever, my wife ended up taking him for that reason of he wanted a, you know, a legitimate photo. That represented. Yes, that represented who he was at that time. And it was her passing that made him realize that I should get this done. I don't have this. We used a great picture of her from, you know, from a family situation, but it wasn't a posed studio picture.

And he wanted that for when he went. So it's a real, like it's not a, I don't think it's vanity by any means. I think it's like a realistic decision that you. That's a really great story, Dan. You know, talk about thinking ahead, man. And I was going to say this, but Dan already said it, kind of. When they chose your mother-in-laws, they looked for a good photo. I think the best answer here is where do you look your happiest?

Sure. Right? Yeah. So if you didn't do what Dan's father-in-law did, then you just got to get that happiest photo of the happiest time of your life, whether you were older or younger. You know, it's an interesting question. It really is. is because Rich is right.

If you look through all the TMZs and all the stories that are talking about Gene Hackman, it's not him as a young man wearing an ascot as Lex Luthor. A lot of it is his recent days when he was 94 years old walking around town. And it doesn't even look like the guy you remember. I mean, think of a sports figure that passed away over the last couple of years. John Madden lived a nice life. I don't expect mutton chop on, you know, being carried off the field, John Madden. but I don't want the final days, John Madden.

How about, you know, when he was in his primo days in the booth with Pat Summerall and the world knew him? And then maybe the 1990s, John Madden. How do you want to be remembered is really, I guess, the question. And it's not your happiest. I don't know if, and again, unfortunately, people die at all different ages, Rich. I remember the one thing that. John Madden had a long career where you remember different stages of his life. So you want to pick one that's somewhat recent, but it's not your dying days.

I remember seeing a story on the news, and please, I'm not trying to make light of this. I remember thinking, this is terrible. There was a story about a younger person who lost their life, and the news used to picture them with like a bunny ear filter from Instagram. No, that's true. I remember that. And I remember being like, the family said this is the, what are we doing? Well, unfortunately, that's the world that we kind of live in now. If the family doesn't provide a photo, they have to go hunting for one online.

That was the only one that could find, unfortunately. Who knows? Good luck trying to find a picture of a young person without a filter. Jane Johnson passed away and I'm like, she has a dog-nose filter on. What do we take? Come on. I remember that because in the most respectful way possible, we laughed at not necessarily the announcement, but the times that we're living in. Like, can you believe that's the photo they're using for this person?

A fortunate story and that's what we put up. So, you know, again, maybe it isn't a vain thought. It's a real life thought, which is if you live in nice, long life, Maybe it's a picture of you, God willing, you live to a nice old age, a picture of you with your grandkids because you're at your happiest. Maybe you as a middle-aged man or woman when you were in your prime of working and everything. Okay, so to answer your question, though, right? Gene Hackman. 95.

My point is I'm done seeing 94-year-old Gene Hackman photos. I think it's a disrespect because he was the man. He was in a lot of great stuff and he lived a great life. I don't think every press photo should be when he was wearing a pair of new balance, taking a walk for the first. time in, you know, at 94 years old last year. Well, and I also don't think it should be a picture of him in his 20s or even 30s because he lived such a long life. 50s or 60s.

No, look. That's how we remember Gene Hackman. Exactly. If you go back, Royal Town & Bounds was filmed in 2001. That's 25 years ago, right? That would have made him, you know, 70s. Yeah, early 70s. That's kind of how I remember him for the most part.

So I think that's good. You've got to find a compromise there. Let me give you one more. When the late great Betty White passed away, there were too many pictures floating around of like her final days. And I'm like, no, no. That was criticized too. Golden girls Betty White.

Always sunny or all the different, you know. Hosting Saturday Night Live. Yeah, like I just thought it was like in bad taste. Like her last living photo was like, no, like an unhealthy looking. I'll tell you what, you're madden. I'm now starting to rethink your madden point. Maybe it is being carried off at the money shops. Yes.

If that is your high point. of your profession and where you were. Like that's got to be a Mount Rushmore part of his life outside of his children being born. But probably the George Washington of the Mount Rushmore part of his life. That wouldn't be a bad pick considering we've seen John Madden throughout the years. So I think that could be justified at that point. If Gene Hackman's picture was him winning the Oscar, I don't think that's entirely necessarily a bad thing if it is the top top of your profession. What did they use when Michael Jackson passed away?

Did they use, like, young Jackson 5 stuff? Probably not. Did they use, like, I look a little odd in the final days, Michael Jackson? Probably that horrible mugshot. No, it was mostly the thriller. I mean, they should have used the thriller era. That's when he looked his best. Based on that, to tie in with Dan said about Madden, maybe it is, when were you your happiest?

If you're a regular person like all of us, when were you at your personal best and happiest? Or if you're a celebrity, maybe it is when you were in your prime. So then pick a picture of me at a best. about 14 before women got in the picture, because I feel like they took me down. That's what you're at your best? Yeah. Women made my life more of a hassle than it's been worth.

Just kidding. No, I'm not. Yes, I am. But here's Gene Hackman, Royal Tannenbaum. Like, that's fair. He's older, but he's not 95. So he's in his 70, like early 70s there. Early, but he still looks like Gene Hackman and healthy and happy.

So do you go at your happiest, where you looked your, if you say, Rich, that's when I looked my best. Then I think it's a vanity thing. That's where I was my best. I think that's a fair assessment. Cool. Could I throw you a little side tangent question as we say rest in peace, Gene Hackman and family? Sure.

We're going to go over the best fictional coaches on the bonus pod later. But I want to go around the room. And I want everyone to dig deep inside and be honest and admit one classic sports movie you've never seen. because I'm man enough to admit it in this moment. I've never seen Hoosiers. And people deem that arguably the greatest sports movie of all time. I've never seen Hoosiers.

Pre-miracle, a lot of people said Hoosiers. And there's a part of me that's like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe my dad or family never watched it. 86, so I was a little boy. You know, I was in kindergarten in 86. So maybe it wasn't in my wheelhouse. I mean, I... That's not an excuse, though.

Movies live on. You weren't even born when Rocky came out. You seen Rocky. true, but is there a movie like Kavino has never seen the Mighty Ducks? Yeah. I'm not embarrassed by that, but it's true. You should be a little embarrassed. Why, dude?

I just, arguably a classic sports movie. Okay, it came out, you said the last one came out in 94? I was 17. The first one came out of night. Trying to get into college, 94. I have no kids in my life. Gordon Bombay. Yeah. 1992, Mighty Ducks.

Okay. Junior high, I'm all about playing junior high baseball, you know, trying to go out with my girlfriend, trying to squeeze a cheek here and there. You think I'm going to watch the Mighty Ducks in the theaters? Honestly. It was just, it's a timing thing, that's all. Yeah, I find that. And my daughter showed zero interest in that movie as I became a dad.

If I ever have a little son one day, maybe he wants to watch the Mighty Ducks. I'll check it out. But I wouldn't put that even in the same sentence as a Hoosiers. No, I think that belongs in a movie in a sentence with the miracle. I would argue Mighty Ducks. He'll be a dream. I argue the Mighty Ducks is more popular than Hoosures. Get out of my face, dude.

Out of here with that. I was Sam, any classic sports movie you'll admit, yeah, you just somehow missed. Yeah, I wrote a couple down, actually. The original and the newer one, the newer version of Bad News Bears, never seen it. And I've never seen Slapshot with Paul Newman. Oh, I never saw that. You know, Sam? That's a good one, because I think if you are in your 30s or so,

Slapshot might be a little old. That might be like right on the threshold of, nah. But, like, I've seen, I love movies from like the 70s. It wasn't a slap shot, like, what, late 70s, early 80s, something like that? So I go back and I watch it was I just haven't seen it. And I love Paul Newman. And, like, the Bad News Bears thing is, like, maybe you were a kid at the time when you saw the original or the new one with Billy Bob. And, like, I just never got around to it.

Most of us would have never saw Brian's song if we didn't watch it in school. I've heard Dallas 40, some classics that you may have seen your dad watching growing up. I've heard Colin Calhard talk about how that's the most emotional movie that can make any man cry. And we watched it in like a film class in college. Same. I watched it in school. And I remember getting emotional as well. Watched it in school, but, you know, a film from 72.

I don't know if I would have watched it on my own. It didn't air on TV all that often. I don't remember that. But yeah, I did watch it. For me, it would be the Mighty Ducks, I guess, if it's as great as you say it is. I'm not saying it's not good. And I'm not saying that kiddie sports movies can't be good. I love the sandlot.

I know Richie, you're big angels in the outfield. old guy. It's a classic. But I never saw it. Any or anything come to mind that you missed? Well, we know that Dan never saw Rocky. Well, yes, that's exactly right. Because Sam can't just give one answer. He always has to give like seven, you know, before anybody else is.

I was going to say slap shot. Well, nobody else has chimed in yet, Sam. That's the problem. You don't take seven pieces of pizza from an eight-slice pizza. There's a lot of sports movies out there. You take one slice, and if everybody goes around, like he literally, I got two of these two. And then, of course, I didn't see mighty ducks. Dan, you haven't seen mini sports movies, so they're a lot of you to choose from.

I know, but it's just the fact that you had that you can't not help but name three movies. Thanks a lot, Sam. Replacements with Keanu Reeves have not seen that. And by the way, Gene Hackman in that movie. Oh, okay. Yeah. Man, this sounded like a Rapaport versus Schultz. I was going to say, you got to, I feel some sexual tension.

Please don't. I don't want any part of that beef. Yeah, I wrote down one here. And I know it has a cult following, but we weren't even in a. elementary school when it came out. I've never seen Caddyshack all the way through. Oh, wow. Really? I've seen parts of it, you know, when it's rerun on TV, but

yeah, I've never sat down and watched it from start to finish. You know, I thought of Caddyshack the other day when Dan Byer was talking about some of the things that we hated at first, but now we like. He said that he hated when people played their music on the golf course. That's right. It was never a thing. And now he sort of likes it. It provides some sort of

atmosphere. You're having a good time out there. Everyone has their own little personal speaker going on. Part of the joke was Rodney Dangerfield was so disruptive that he had like a system in his golf bag. And he's playing his music and everyone's Ted Knight and everybody hates him. Oh, so great. So ahead of its time. It was ahead of its time. But like the joke wouldn't even translate maybe to some people like he's playing music. So what? He had a beer tap on his golf bag too, which was legendary. Seriously. I got that poor caddy. Oh man. But Danny G. wouldn't know because he's never seen

in. So, you know what? As, you know, you have little kids now where a lot of us are dads in the room, do you go back to the well? And Danny G., your son, Coe is won. At any point, you'd be like, bad news, bear son, major league, Sanlott, feel the dreams. Or is that generation just not going to care?

No, I think there's a handful of movies where we're like, got to share this. Like, my stepchildren, they had never seen Back to the Future. And so one night I'm like, get the popcorn. You're watching Back to the Future. And they loved it. With some people consider it the perfect movie. Yeah.

We always say sports movies aside, we say it's the trifecta. If you're a kid of the 80s, it's Goonies, Back to the Future, and Karate Kid. Those are the three that it would be hard to not try to pass down to your children. You know what else gets left out of that conversation now? E.T. I mean, that's legendary. It's just so sad and sentimental, I think, like, you don't want to sit there and cry about an alien on a random Thursday. But in honor and in tribute, we will be talking about Gene Hackman and other fictional coaches from movies and TVs.

Tire World. Again, on overpromised. But I think we all got to check out Hoosiers if we haven't. And like you said, DB replacements because Hackman's also won that one. But if you want to confess, consider this. These are your confessions. Yeah, your confession. And on the heels of that, Sam put a tribute up to Gene Hackman.

I don't know if it's still up. I put, because I'm such a huge Hoosiers fan that we went to the movie sites five years ago, me and my wife, in Indiana. I threw a video up on Twitter. There's also one on TikTok that I put up a couple years ago of like what it was like. I would explain to you, but I've never seen the movie. So, but yeah, for any Hoosiers fan, I want to check it out, feel free. Kavino, you talk about it often.

We're in that downtime now where baseball hasn't started yet. NBA and NHL are getting close to the playoffs, NFL offseason. and hey, maybe your job this week or next week is to say, let me pick a classic sports movie that I just missed along the way. Download it on your travels and watch it. You know what I did, Rich recently? Dedicate two hours of your life to Hoosiers or Mighty Ducks or Slapshot or, you know. I like that.

It's like some good homework. I will eventually watch The Mighty Ducks. I just haven't. It's not like I'm not or I'm against it. I just haven't. But you know what I had never seen up until like Super Bowl? I don't know, wherever we were coming from in our travels recently, Rich,

I was on a plane and I was like, I've seen parts of it, obviously. I know the quotable parts and I've seen parts, but I'm not sure I saw the whole thing. I watched Remember the Titans on a plane. I had never seen the whole thing, I don't think. Wow. Yeah.

That's top three for me. Is it really the top three? That's up there. Wow. Well, hey, I just watched a full thing in its entirety within the past month. So it's never too late is my point. So if you've never seen Hoosiers or any of these, you got to watch them.

You know what I haven't seen now that I think about it. The Rocky movies are, you know, such an important part of my life. The Rocky and Creed movies hit so home for me. Yeah, when people talk about De Niro, Raging Bull? Yeah, but those aren't sports movies. It's the love story. You know that. Rocky is a love story.

But when people say, oh, yeah, De Niro, Raging Bull for years, I'm like, yeah. Yeah, you got to watch that. I've never seen Raging Bull? It's great. Rich, wasn't it you that told us the story of your wife watching all the Rock? Rocky movies. That's how I knew she was the one. For you, yeah.

My wife had never seen the Rocky movies, and I'm going to do the same to Dan Byer one day without the romance. My wife was visiting me in New York when we were just dating. I was like, babe, I got to go to work all day. I'll be back. We'll go for a nice dinner. She was like, I thought she was going to kill time shopping around New York City doing herself. She had a Rocky marathon. And I was like, are you trying to impress me because I'm pretty turned on right now.

Bro, if your wife could bond with you on Rocky, you'll love Raging Bull. 1980 De Niro at his best, Gorsese, Joe Pesci. Again, the story of Jake Lamata, you got to check that out. I think you'd really like it. Again, but the reminder here in honor of Gene Hackman, Hoosier's legendary movie,

is to think about those movies. Do a little Homer. And which one? Didn't you watch? Check it out because I think sports movies especially, they're usually time pieces, right? About that specific time, that specific player. They never go out of style.

They're always somewhat great. Most of them hold up. No doubt. All right. Well, that's Camino. I'm Rich. We love you guys hanging with us. Fox Sports Radio.

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Oh, remember the Titans I remember You know what the problem is though Rich A lot of times These movies mean so much To you as a kid And IOS Sam nailed it off the air You know when you watch them as an adult

You're much more critical And you're not in the 90s When that movie came out So I'm like I liked it I didn't love it but I did like it it's a sports movie I never hate them

you know it was good you know what this reminds me of and by the way if you want to chime in we were talking about some of those classic sports movies you may have missed along the way Gene Hackman dead at 95 and I admitted I've never seen Hoosiers but I'm not the only one I'm surprised by that you've never seen Caddyshack

and Mighty Ducks Mighty Ducks until recently remember the Titans I feel like Hoosiers, you need to immediately go watch that, Rich. I'm not against it, dude. I will if I don't watch it

tonight or tomorrow, it's on my next free night. It's assignment viewing. Is it a good thing or is it tacky and cheap when you notice somebody dies or someone's in the news and all of a sudden you see the little thumbnail for their movie on every streaming service you have?

It's convenient, but is it also like they're capitalizing off the death or controversy of that person? combined with paying tribute to the mom. I'm 50-50 on it. Yeah, no, exactly, but you notice it, right? No doubt. So I'm sure you're going to see a Hoosier's thumbnail

or a Royal Tannen's bomb thumbnail somewhere in your streaming services. I have a dumb thought that has to do with what you just said about 90s movies. Yeah. Well, let me, let me, again, preface, though. I had seen parts of, remember the Titans, I was on a plane, it was there. I think that was from the year 2000. Was it 2000? Yeah.

And again, like, I liked it, Rich. I'm sure I'd have liked it a lot more when it first came out. You know, you have to put yourself in that mindset, I guess. Well, we had a theory the other day that it's so dumb, why not bring it to Fox Sports Radio? I can't be the only one because Kavino felt the same way, and I'm really curious what everyone else feels. When you were a kid and your grandparents showed you photos and relics from the 20s and 30s and 40s, and this is me in World War II or they would bust out their perforated photos

with a little triangular perforations on them and they're always black and white, obviously and I knew that I lived in a time of color photos so I always associated their past in black and white old movies black and white so when my grandparents would tell me a story I pictured it in black and white and in my mind I thought they lived in black and white

Yeah, when I would imagine their stories, I would imagine them like in a Humphrey Bogart sort of era and sort of camera view. So when did life become colorful, grandpa? Oh, it always has been. Grandpa, when did technicolor like kick into actual life? I'm not even BS in you. I thought my grandparents lived in black and white. And I totally get it because now when we, but it's not, you're not that far off because now when we see old clips colorized, it's not like anybody's wearing neon green. You know, like it's all just a subdued navy black or brown or gray.

So it's not that shocking. It is amazing to see those colorized. Like anywhere like World War I footage I saw, it was like of the British soldiers colorized. It was unreal. Like it just brought a whole new life to it. It feels like it can't be real. Or like World War II footage colorized. It is crazy.

Like in my mind. I saw footage of Babe Ruth colorized recently. It's like, man, that's weird to me. Like Abe Lincoln, anything old school. Were the Yankees where in their social? City Connect? So I look at it and I say, you know, I thought our grandparents lived in the black and white. And I found out that Babe Ruth actually used mustard on his hot dogs, not catch them.

I always wondered. Sure. Yeah, because it was yellow. Solve the mystery. So here's our dumb Kavino and Rich thought. If we, as little kids, I'm not saying I think that now, but as a little kid, I think I thought my grandparents lived in black and white. Yeah, I thought in old-timey times they lived in black and white. Again, when I was a really little kid, Pleasantville style.

Right? Based on that theory. Based on that theory. The other night, I'm on YouTube because my kids just watched all junk on YouTube, but I was signed in under my name. And the last thing I had watched was highlights of the 2024 Mets, like all the Lindor and Alonzo home runs. And my kids, who are getting ready for team ball and softball,

they're like, Dad, what's that? I go, you want to see a couple home runs from the Mets last year? And then it gets into the cover. Show us, Dad. Show us, show us. And I'm like, Hey, buddy, can you name three Mets? And I'm so proud of my son's like,

Soto, Lindor, and Polar Bear Pete. I'm watching them watch highlights. And then my daughter does the whole, you think the Mets will ever win the championship, as she calls it? Because, Dad, didn't they win when you were my age? And that was the last time I go, yeah, buddy, it was. She goes, is that on TV?

I showed them a two-minute clip of, you know, gets by Buckner, Mookie Wilson, 86. All my kids kept saying was, were things blurry when you were a kid? So do our kids think, the same way we thought our grandparents lived in the black and white, do our kids think we lived in the blurry? They do. They do. And there's so many reasons that even clips from the 90s, mostly the 90s, there's reasons

that they're extra blurry when you see them now. because they weren't formatted for today's type of monitor and screen. There was SD, yeah. Right. And they were the square. So you'll see a clip. You know damn well. It wasn't that blurry, but it was on video, right?

And now it's digital. When it transferred, it just looks like crap. So if a kid is looking at a highlight from the 96 World Series, I've got to brag about my Yankees here, it looks like something from the 1960s. It looks pathetic. It looks pathetically blurry. So based on our theory of, we imagine our grandpappy living in the black and white.

Our kids think we lived in the blurry, and they're not necessarily wrong, because if you watch some of those videos, they're all blurry, dude. Honestly, like, any highlight you will watch or pull up on YouTube from the 80s, the way it's formatted, the way it's, you know, captured. George Brett getting mad about the corked bat. That looks like, I can understand where you're five-year-old or six-year-old kid

would be like, dad, where things blurry when you were a kid? 2002 NFL action, 2001, you'd be amazed on how bad it looks. And it feels like it was just the other day. The graphics packages, everything about it looks like, man, how old is this video? And it's not that old. It's like 20 years old. Dan Byer and I take a lot of pride in being nerdy about is the lower thirds and the graphics packages.

When you were a kid, you didn't realize that was never up during the game. If you watch an old NFL films from the 80s or 90s, they only showed the score. and the quarter and how much time and third down, second down, going in and out of commercials, I guess they thought it was not a good idea to show it. Like, if you watch an old Monday night football game when it was Al and Dan and Frank, there was no permanent lower third.

You know, I'm sure there's some guy tunes in in the second or third quarter and watches 15 minutes of the game so you can get the rating, not to realize he's watching a 41 to 9 game. Maybe like that's the reason why. It had to be a reason. Now if you turn it on, you're like, oh, that game's a blow out. I'm just going to turn it away. The theory might have been.

If you see the score, you're not going to stick around? Sure. Yeah. Who knows? There's also a difference in the quality of NFL films because it could be a game from, you know, the 2000s. And it looks like something from the 60s because it's on film. That's always misleading. Yeah, it just looks flat.

It looks flat because it's on actual film. But when you see that old video of old baseball games, again, it wasn't it that long ago. And it looks so old. hence kids think we lived in the blurry era of life. Yeah, and it's true, especially with their HDIs. Good luck. Get another show on this network or any network to have the revelation of we lived in the blurry. You really have to go to that footage if you want to do like a documentary on it.

You have to clean it up. It takes a lot of post-production editing, or not editing, but like you have to like sharpening things up. You have to really do a lot of work on it. It's like almost like restoring an old car. Yeah, does it creep you out, guys? When you see- With AI, they could probably. Probably do it easily. Does it creep you out when you see how now they could bring old photos to life?

Is that weird to you? Like, they'll take like an old timey times photo and they could sort of animate it? Make it like a GIF almost? I saw a video. I just don't like the way the eyes look in humans when they do that. I know it's stupid, but did you see the video of Donald Trump sucking Elon Musk's toes? I did see that. It's so disturbing.

Because it looks so real. That was AI? Exactly. I don't know. You know, I'm sure there's old people that believed it. My mom probably thinks it's real. Richie, I saw it on Facebook. All right.

Let's go to Dan Beyer for an update. What's going on, D-Bee? Quickly, guys, have you guys seen any of the old clips when they changed from black and white to color TV where stations actually did it where they're like, we are not going to transition into a color mode? How about when Dorothy goes from Kansas to Munchkin land? That was kind of wild. I watched The Wizard Vaz recently with my kids, and they were so bored in the beginning. And I had to be like, kids, I probably should get better. Yeah.

and you're going to hate what you're about to see. Chiefs at end, Travis Kelsey, confirmed he'll play in 2025, doing so in text messages to Pat McAfee of the Pat McAfee Show. Chiefs, by the way, placed the franchise tag on guard, Tray Smith. Former Bucketeer's head coach John Gruden will be reinstated into the team's ring of honor. He was removed in 2021, but we'll be back up in 2025. Heisman trophy winner Travis Hunter,

not working out in Indianapolis. Now, if you remember, he was designated as a defensive back at the Combine. He interviewed today with reporters and when asked about what teams he spoke with, Hunter just said next question would not reveal who he had spoken to. Jake Knapp shot 59 on the PGA Tour in the first round on the Cognosin Classic. 12 birdies, no bogeys for the 15th sub-60 round in PGA tour history. Jordan Smith is six-back at six under Oreo shortstop. Gunner Henderson left today's grapefruit league game against the Blue Jays with discomfort on his lower right side. left after just one inning.

Finally, Spurs head coach Greg Popovich says he will not return to coaching this season following his mild stroke. He's focusing on his health and hopes to coach again in the future. Guys, back to you. Thank you, D.B. Now again, to wrap up our random thought, if we thought our grandpappy grew up in the black and white, because all the old stuff lived in black and white, do our kids think we lived in the blurry? Because all of our pictures and all of our footage is blurry. If I told you picture Abe Lincoln doing a speech,

Honestly, are you picturing it in like a black and white vibe? Absolutely. I'm not picturing him in color. I have no idea. So anyway, we talk Travis Kelsey and we do some old school and 50 hits. We have lots to get to on the Kavino and Rich Show. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what?

We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.

But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was...

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel. help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?

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I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered.

Sports slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice. radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slico Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world,

he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levin this went to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me?

Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.

I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Rest in Peace, Gene Hackman, 95. Now they're saying suspicious, and the details that are coming out are suspicious. And of course, rest in peace, his wife and his dog. We're going to pay tribute on overpromised our bonus show.

So tune into that. Plus, we're going to talk nasty nest or getting a lot of criticism for saying that he thinks the Yankees, and he speaks on behalf of all the Yankees from last year, he thinks the Yankees were the better team, even though they lost to the Dodgers. That's so silly. I'm going to try to make, I'll do my best to make sense of what I think he was getting

at on overpromise. You could say that about any competition in the world. It doesn't even need to be the World Series. I think we're the better team. But if you didn't win, were you really the better team? No, but I understand what he means. I'll explain. And again, Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page, we go live at 4 p.m. out here on the West, 7 p.m. on the east.

Overpomised our bonus pod. You could listen. But check it out. Watch it on YouTube. Dan Byer, thank you for texting me this clip. We've got to post this at Covino-Ritch. The exact moment when news stations switch from black and white to color TV, April 14th, 1967. Did you see this ever? There was like a moment. There was a moment. We're going to flip the switch. It was a live moment. Yeah. Oh, I don't think I knew that. They're like, it's black and white.

right here. And then all of a sudden, the guy sits down at the desk and all of a sudden like, and flip to switch. It's a little staticky for a second and boom. What? I don't think I've ever seen that. I never seen this either. I thought it happened when Dorothy opened the door. That's what I thought, too. Wow, that's amazing.

Well, look at the time. 50 after when old school hits. There's a search. Yeah. What we're going to do right here is go back. back into time. Throwing it back for a Thursday.

Old school when 50 hits. At 50 after, CNNR give you the time capsule topic, and we reminisce together. Now next hour, we will talk some NFL and Travis Kelsey. He's made an announcement. We'll get to that. But every Thursday, we throw it back and we reminisce. Nostalgia, a big part of our lives.

We get you involved at 87799 on Fox. everything at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio. Now, if you're on social media like most of us are, or you just see the news from time to time, you may have seen that Hooters filed for bankruptcy. What? Hooters. What?

To me, if you would have said what business plan might never fail, I would have to say, I don't know, hot women in wings. Yeah, that'd probably be around forever. If that could fail. How does that go out of style? which shows you America's changing and man, wow, that's a surprise. Are we too good for delightfully tacky now? What's wrong with us?

And then for the crafty folks out there. Al Bundy's disappointed. Or for the women that love to, you know, do their little crafty stuff at home, Joanne's. How many times have you stopped at Joanne's with your mom or your girlfriend or your wife? I feel bad about this, but at least I'll stop getting their junk mail every other day. It's like, geez, I bought some yarn there five years ago, and I still. get emails from them. Yeah, Joanne's

texts me every day. 20% off. I'm sad anytime I hear this stuff. And if you have kids in school, especially, they're always asking you to take them to Joanne's or Michaels because they need things for craps at school and projects and things like that. That was the last time you made a diorama.

Dude, I'm at Joanne's actually a lot because my daughter's always doing stuff for her projects. Start with a shoebox. But, again, Hooters, Joanne's. Just recently, I'm from New Jersey. family was all upset because they're closing down one of the last locations of rain forest cafe in jersey their famous menlo park location now there's only one left remember they always had

like uh you walked in the i guess you would say the the lobby area and they'd be like that the jungle smoke yeah but they're holding on by like drink used to go to the one in Vegas yeah there's like one or two here and there but based on these thoughts and all these news alerts what are some places that don't exist anymore that we just miss do we really miss and wish we could bring them back, and wish we could share those moments with our kids. The Hooters one hits home for me because my wife, when she was in college, worked at Hooters.

In fact, sort of how I met my wife, because she ended up when she was Miss Hooters in like 08, and we met her through the radio show. That's right. Rich's wife was Miss Hooters International. My girlfriend is the stock photo that they're, she also worked at Hooters, my girlfriend, believe it or not. And they're using her photo as the, like,

hey, we're falling for bankruptcy. Hooters and like she's the one that's all over the news alert. So I mean, think about it. How many times were you watching a game having some wings? Hooters is America. This is shocking to me. Joanne's, every school project for your kids. Shocking.

What are the ones that sort of bummed you out when they closed down? It could be electronic stores. It could be record stores. It could be anything. There's old school regional shops that. Toy stores are a big one. Yeah, toy stores. So we'll get to all of it next.

throwing it back on a Thursday. Those stores you miss from back in the day. We'll do it next. It could be known rich. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin.

And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. Nice. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest,

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