The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - History or Revenge?

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

C&R react to the Super Bowl 59 matchup! They have fun comparing rooting interests. What's the better story, the Chiefs possible 3-peat, or the Eagles' revenge & stopping it? They go over the "NFL is rigged" & "fixed" accusations & take calls. Plus, Jerry Jones gives another audio gem!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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by searching FSR. What's up, man? Cabino and Rich. I'll tell you what's up. The Super Bowl matchup Nobody wanted. You know, I'm going to make you fired up about it. I'm going to get you excited about it.

Look, we're going to be out there in New Orleans. I'm not going to let you bring me down. I'm not going to let the nation bring me down because you're fired down that we've seen this one already. Not the same team. It's going to be a good game. Of course. Listen, there's a sentiment on social media that maybe we start with.

It might be the lamest thing a grown man or woman could say. And I want to, you know, tell those people how I feel. But first, let's rock out a little bit, shall we? Always rocking out. Monday through Friday. We even have a bonus pod called Overpromised. Two bonus shows last week. Just search Covino and Rich wherever you stream your podcast right now.

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bro, I want to see the Lions. If it's not my team, I want the Lions. Or you know what? The Bills, that would be a great story. Lamar, maybe it's his chance. And we saw the meme months ago. It wasn't like a new meme made over the weekend. Months ago, it said the Super Bowls we want to see.

And a lot of them were Bill's Lions memes. And it was what we don't want to see. And all along it's been Eagles Chiefs. Well, I do think the Lions would have matched up much better. versus the Eagles yesterday. We were a little let down. I think the commanders let themselves down. They lost that game.

They gave that game away. We're going to get all your feedback. Like every Monday we go over things that made you go, all your observations. We're going to play last one sanding, giving away prizes today, a CNR Swiggy. And again, just everything you could have possibly absorb from this weekend's football games.

Rich, I am excited about it. I think we got the two best teams there, and you're seeing them click when it may. matters most. Jaylen Hertz is bowling. He's playing well. If he plays like he played yesterday with Saquan Barkley, who seems unstoppable, that's the crazy part. I don't know how anybody beats them, but then again,

Mahomes is playing the best he's played all season. It's a different Mahomes, as Colin said on the Hurd. Stars. It's like he made the comparison that he just pictures red. Jordan, Tiger Woods, Mahomes. There's the magic that when it matters,

they turn it on. And you saw that. in my homes. But, you know, it's interesting about Sequin. Back to him for a second. In sports, when you want to take a guy out of a game, you could double a receiver. You could take a tight end off the line of scrimmage, not give him any space, take him out of the game plan.

You could double cover someone in the NBA, not let them get a shot off. The game plan was to stop Seacquan Barkley, yet it still can't be done. It's not like they're like, oh, maybe we should try to stop Seacuan. The game plan all week had to be forced Jalen Hertz to beat you through the air. Let's stop the run, yet they still rush for over 200 yards as a team.

That offensive line, it's offensive. Yeah, seriously, I said last week that I thought the Chiefs would win because the Chiefs play to their competition, which is good and bad, right? That means they lower their game versus lesser opponents, but they still pick their game up. I mean, he scored 30 points the first time all season against the Bills. and won. So I do think the same could be true next,

well, next week, two weeks from now at the Super Bowl. But, man, Sequan Barkley makes this team look unbeatable. I just don't know how you beat this guy. I don't know how you shut him down. I don't know how the Chiefs defense shuts this guy down, but it's going to be an exciting game. I'll tell you how.

You know this guy, you might have known. Chris Jones, maybe that defensive line of the Kansas City Chiefs. Because remember, Washington, while they did have an amazing year. You mean sentimental, Chris Jones? Sentimental. When a big man like that cries, it makes me feel some type of way. You know, man, I'm just feeling sentimental. But let's keep in mind that the commanders were a great field good story.

Jane and Daniels, we're all excited to see what he brings to the NFL over the next handful of years. But should they have been in the NFC championship game? Would you have ever thought that going into the season? No way, Jose. So with that said, the Washington commanders had the third. 30th ranked rush defense. So it's not like the best Ds were going against

Sequin in that situation. They had a hell of a season. They have to make some adjustments. They have to work on their defense. But they just played sloppy ball from the get-go and gave that game to the Eagles. Now, before we get into all the observations, right? Before we get into things that made you go,

we got lots of observations from the game to the Super Bowl, Kendrick Lamar and more. Why don't we talk about, well, what's the rooting interest here? Because if this is the Super Bowl that nobody really wanted, except for Chiefs and Eagles fans, right, are you more excited about the Three Pete in history or as they said, the Chief Pete, which doesn't even make sense. It's a Chief Pete.

Let's, you know, failed term. He said Chief Pete or Pete Chief? It was like Pete Chief. Three Chief? I thought he said, Chief Pete. He said, Chief Pete. chief named Pete? Yeah, they were just throwing all different variations of that.

It's like people would just throw a gate on the end of things if it was scandalous. They said three chief. They said three chief or chief. Yeah, Kluena and Richgate. So are you more interested in the chief Pete or are you more interested in the Eagles getting revenge with their new and improved team led by a healthy Jalen Hertz who looked solid yesterday and the unstoppable Saquan Barkley? So are you looking for three Pete or are you looking for revenge here for Philadelphia? What is your rooting interest? As the meme goes, Kansas City Chiefs fans, little dot right there in the Midwest,

Eagles fans. And the third option was Meteor Strike. Did you see the meme that's floating around today? I did. Rich, I know mine. I know my rooting interest here, for sure. Hold it, and I want to see if we have the same one. Yeah.

Because all along, I wanted Josh Allen, this to be his. year. I really, I really wanted those Bills fans to be jumping through fiery tables. By the way, did you see that fun story where in Kansas City, they weren't letting you buy folding chairs if you had an out-of-state license? Hilarious. You had to have a Missouri license. Preventing the Bills Mafia from acting foolish. You know, may have saved a couple broken necks.

Josh Allen must have nightmares about Patrick Bones. Oh, my God. Seriously, honestly, I wouldn't doubt it. So everyone was saying, oh, Bill's, what a good. great story. Like I said, Lamar Jackson, maybe he was his year. Another MVP, but yet another, you know, another opportunity cut short. The Lions, if this isn't their year, 15 and two, then when is their year? I wanted all those feel-good stories if it wasn't my 49ers. But now you're putting two teams that are very difficult to root for in front of the nation.

The Eagles with Nick Siriani's punchable face. And it's hateable franchise, hateable team hateable fans. With those fans. Oh my God, they're right below Yankees fans. Right. Like Eagles fans are brutal. So you're like, do I want them to be happy? Or passionate, you could say.

And then it's like then the eye-rollingness of, oh, my Holmes and Kelsey and Taylor Swift and you want that again. As the other meme I saw it goes, Swifties are the worst because since they started rooting for football, they haven't lost the Super Bowl. Meanwhile, all of us as other fans have never had. Super Bowl. You know, I would like to thank Josh Allen, though, for putting up, you know, playing one hell

of a game yesterday because it prevented a much more Taylor Swift on the screen than we could have seen. But she got that Louis Vuitton, $8,000 alpha. No, but honestly, there could have been way more of her on the screen, but Josh Allen really kind of prevented that. That was a close game, man, 3229, but still the Chiefs got the best of them is Chiefs Eagle. So think about it. I have it.

I have my answer. What's the more favorable rooting interest here? Because when you do picture Eagles fans, you know what type of Eagles fans I picture, Rich? And I got a lot of Eagles fan friends. But I picture them like that hateable Yankee fan that tried to strip the ball from Mookie Betts. Like that kind of guy. Just a guy like that, but he lives 80 miles south. Yeah, but he wears green or whatever that guy.

I picture most of the fans like that guy. So do you root for the Eagles or do you root for the history and the repeat with the. Chiefs. I thought long and hard about this. Go ahead. And again, I just as a New Yorker in my heart, even though I live out here in L.A.

I can't root for Nick Siriani. The only part of the Eagles that is rootable to me is Sequin Barclay. Because he seems like just a great dude. And he's such a difference maker. In fact, I think probably the best bet is

Sequan Barkley MVP, because that's going to The odds are going to be pretty decent because that would include the Eagles likely having to win for him to be MVP. So I like that. But I am taking a little pivot here. And I'm rooting for history. I didn't think I would. But I'm rooting for Mahomes to get it done. Three Pete.

Put in the history books. And then maybe we could all move on. Rich, you're doing the mental gymnastics to root for the chiefs here. I am. You're doing some serious mental gymnastics. He's trying to find some nugget of hope. The Eagles are America's unconstitutional. They're America's underdogs.

You ever bit to Philadelphia? I have. I've spent a lot of... I've spent a lot of time in Philly. And you know what? He's got family there. He's Philly Sam. I am.

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Cheastakes Sammy. Oh, I love a cheese steak Sammy. I love it. I love it. This is a cheese steak sandwich. Sam wish. You got to say, you got to say Whizwit. Whiz wit.

Yeah, Wizz wit. Yeah, that's how you know. Listen, get your John's right. Get your Cooper Dejons in order here. Yeah, no, who knew? Philly is a fun team to watch. I love, I'm fully pulling for the Eagles here. You're a Wiz-Twit.

I'm a Wiz kid. Camino, did you know our board up and producer? Do you know cheese steak, Sammy? I didn't know he was cheesesteak, Sammy. Until now, I thought he was Big Opera Slam and Iowa, Sam. But, you know, he calls them these like underdogs, but I think Sequin Barclays, the equalizer here. How could you really consider them real underdog?

when this dude seems unstoppable. Honestly, I find it more impressive if the chiefs still find a way to win. Well, the chiefs are two-point... The chiefs are two-point favorites. I'm not sure if it's still two, but it opened around there. Rich, I get that.

But you wouldn't be impressed if the chiefs still somehow find a way to stop this guy and beat the Eagles? I'll tell you. They seem unbeatable with Seekwon Barkley. So even though their underdogs, are they really with him? I'll give you this.

sentiment that you share is likely because the point spread has moved to one and a half, meaning people are betting on the Eagles. There's a part of me that, listen, I'm not hating all Eagles fans. They did win with Nick Foles. Great win over Tom Brady, a legendary Super Bowl. Is it the Super Bowl Brady threw for like 500 yards and still lost? Like, it was a legendary Super Bowl. The Philly Special, they're passionate.

I just, ugh. I really feel the same way the rest of the country. feels. I don't know who to root for. I do. And let me get mine out there. We'll get to your phone calls too at 87799 on Fox. 877 99 on Fox at Covino and Rich. We'll go around the room. Sam wants the Eagles. Danny G. Think about it. Byer. Spotty boy. Rich, you said the Chiefs. And I'm going with you. Going with you, buddy boy. The three Pete. The history means so much more when all said and done and when we look back, then the Eagles winning the Super Bowl. I don't hate the Eagles.

I don't hate their fans. In fact, I'm highly impressed with Sequin and Hertz and how this team came back. Remember, they were the team that were in the Super Bowl. Then the next year, we counted them out. We counted them out. Dude, we thought they were done. They made it just when they came back. We were at Buffalo Wild Wings when the Tampa Bay Bucks

whooped them in the wild card. It was a Monday night wild card last year. I'm actually really impressed that they were able to come back and do this again. Like, people gave up on them. gave up on Hertz. And that dude looks like he's playing great. So I'm not hating on the Eagles, but what I am saying is history matters more. You know, when we think back to what Jordan did in the NBA, when we realize that no one in the NFL has ever done this, the fact that we get to see it. We get to tell our kids and our grandkids about it in the future. The fact that Mahomes,

whether you like the chiefs or not, Mahomes is one of those special players, once in a lifetime guys who just knows how to win. he's more fun, and that story's more fun to root for than the Eagles if you have no horse in the race. You know, Dan Byer and I share commonality. We're students of Super Bowl history. We, for some reason, love that. You get this sense of when we were kids. Remember, it was like giants, redskins, niners, cowboys.

Like the same handful of teams consistently just beat the Broncos or the Bills. Now it seems like the Chiefs just take turns beating the Niners and the Eagles. Like, we're getting this rotation of your same. teams that are on the losing end of this Chief's dynasty. Yeah, it's funny too, because I hear everything that you and Kavino and everybody's saying about this, how special this three-peed is. And Rich, I think you and I look for something that changes the history, something that is different.

And the three-peat doesn't do it for me. It's, I want the one-off. I want the new team. The Eagles, I guess, winning their second to me would be more of, does it change history a little bit that we now look at them as a multiple Super Bowl champion. I like that. I like that. But like changing his treatment is more to you.

I get it. Dan, what's interesting is we had that conversation the other day about which of these quarterbacks will end up not winning one. Josh Allen, Lamar, Justin Herbert. We went down the list. Dak Prescott, Jalen Hertz, while it's not on his own, Sequin, a big part of it, Jalen Hertz would have one under his belt. So the narrative that Jalen Hertz is, you know, how good is he?

he'll have a Super Bowl. Yeah, absolutely. And those things can extend your careers when things aren't going well. I mean, actually, honestly, I think it's one of the things that's kept Russell Wilson around a little bit longer is because he does have that Super Bowl ring. Yeah. Oh, by the way, we would look at Chalynette Hertz a lot different the same way, you know, Eli Manning was a bit of a goon, but the fact that he beat Brady is what makes him stand out. Yeah, two times, no less, right? And MVP, if Chalynan Hertz beats Mahomes, we think of.

him in a completely different category. We counted him out. He came back. And the fact that he's the guy that stops history from happening, I think, yeah, he's viewed completely different moving forward. I had one friend at my house yesterday that was rooting for the chiefs, everyone else rooting for the bills. And he brought up that Batman quote from Dark Knight. Do you remember the quote about being a hero?

You either die a hero or you live long. long enough to see yourself become the villain. And you could say that about Steph Curry. You could say that about a lot of stars. LeBron. LeBron, Michael Jordan. Now Patrick Mahomes. Tom Brady.

In the beginning, you remember the narrative of Mahomes? I'm sorry, you forgot one, Rich. You forgot one. I think you forgot it on purpose. Hulk Hogan. Brother. Yeah, now he's a real villain. But think about it, buddy, boy.

When Mahomes won his first Super Bowl, the Chiefs had not won since Super Bowl four, if I remember correctly. I was not alive, but they had lost, as you know, early on to the Packers and Bart Star. The Chiefs had one victorious year. And they went through that like 50 year gap. When they won that first one against the Niners in 2020, there were Chiefs fans crying. Everyone's like, man, Mahomes and Kelsey, they deserve it. If you're a hero long enough, if you don't die a hero, you end up being the villain. And right now they are the villain.

And it's hard to call them a villain. You're right, because they're not like unlikable guys. Well, because of Mahomes, man, because I think every fan of football could see how special this dude is. He's just not hateable. The fact that they win is a bit eye-rolly and that's hateable. But Patrick Mahomes is not a hateable dude unless you really weigh in all the flopping he did in the past few games. But he took accountability. He owned up to it. And now we're seeing

a dude just play in a special way where he steps up when he has to. Dude, that dude was solid yesterday. So Danny G, your thoughts. Fox Sports Radio, your thoughts. You're rooting interest.

Three Pete or revenge for the Eagles? As much as I would like a fellow AFC West team to do the impossible or what seems like the impossible, the part of the eagle story that I really like is Seriani. Rich, I know you say he's got a punchable face. Yeah.

I can see that. But there was a sense of that he lost the team, right? And then he sort of... That's the part I love. How did he go from being this close to being fired to now being in Super Bowl 59? Yeah. Yeah, he talked about that, too. That was pretty cool, man.

I love that. I think all of us can relate to that in some sort of way where we've been at a job where we were kind of hanging on and then things took a turn for the good. and we were part of something big. And you know what, Danny? People could say what they want, and he may have a punchable face, Rich. I'm not denying that.

But when all said and done, the beginning, middle, end of the day, the dude wins football games, right? Like, look at his track run. He knows how to win games. So, yeah, it is a pretty cool story. I could see that people want to hate on the Eagles. But I'm trying to give you reason to care.

People are bored by this story, bored by these teams. You got Seekwan Barker. you didn't have that last time. You got a healthy Eagles team that looks primed and ready to win. They're good. They're good. I don't consider them underdogs, even though it's still a point now.

You got the Chiefs who barely won every game all year, but they still find a way and they're going for history. There's so many cool storylines. How's it going to pan out? You've got to pick a side. So, you know what? Spot said refs. I'm glad he was clearing his throat.

He didn't say anything. He was clearing his throat. I didn't say a couple things. I wouldn't disparage the refs. By the way, I was out a point out. That makes them hateable. There's something about... It's just a narrative. There's so many layers to this that I want to get to next.

And your feedback, like Kavino said, let's light them up. 87799 on Fox. So give us your rooting interest and why, because the general sentiment is this is not the Super Bowl we all really wanted. But this is the one we got. So who you're rooting for and why? Give us your rando reason how you're pulling for the evil dynasty known as the Chiefs. or, you know, in the most unlikable fan base,

you really want the Eagles fans to be, like, chill, like super happy. So your thoughts on your rooting interest, and I want to add one layer to this. The social media sentiment. It's like an eight-layer dip. That, yeah, I'm breaking out the Super Bowl dip spot. Here's the next layer.

Yum. The people that believe things are rigged. Rigged. Like, do you really think? Well, there was conspiracy on that flag at the end of the game. Did you catch that? Where Josh Allen threw up that, you know, the prayer.

They said Jim Nance goes, oh, there's a flag on the play. Oh, wait, there's not a flag. Right. He wants to storm arrowhead with me. There's some speculation as to what. Were they going to throw a flag on Kansas City there and on Buffalo there? Well, and before that, when it looked like Josh Allen had gained the line to reach, both announcers were like, yeah, he got to the line.

Listen, that seemed like the closest call. Like, when you see Josh Allen down the line and the overhead, all the angles did look like if he just needed to touch a smidgey smidge of that white line, then to me, how is it not a first down? But I don't believe in fixes. I don't believe in this nonsense. Even in boxing, I know there's shenanigans once in a blue moon. But do you really think the NFL, the National Football League, where the referees are judges and lawyers? where there's 31 other owners. Do you think they're all going to go along with it?

Like, oh, yeah, here we go. Let's let the Chiefs win again. You don't believe in the NFL logo, that's Super Bowl logo conspiracy? That's my favorite. That's my favorite. I mean, so. Rich is right.

There's no dirty judges or lawyers. So you know what? Let's hear from you guys. Do you believe anything is possibly rigged and your rooting interest, a lot of fun NFL, some Super Bowl stuff today. Kavino and Rich, we are live from the Tyraq.com studio right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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and it's very difficult to pick two teams that not many people want to root for. How about this? Our new pal, Dallas Goddard, who we worked with and we're doing stuff here at Fox Sports Radio with any interest because it's, it'll be nice to see him get a ring. He's our new pal. You know, you learn to root for players when you do what we do. And it's okay as a fan, too.

There's certain players you like. There's certain players you identify with in Root 4. And we got to interview him. He's a nice dude. I was definitely pulling for him when I saw him making a few plays this weekend. In fact, I was watching with the family. Stephen, my mother, Stephen, that was the guy on your show. He was so nice.

Aren't you happy for him? I'm like, yeah, yeah, mom, yeah, he's great. So you got to find reasons Because like Rich said For most of the country We've been there, done that We've seen it It's a big eye roll

Because you do all the speculating The entire season Oh who's going to do it Who's going to make it Oh man It's going to be the lines It's going to be the bills Oh it's going to be the Ravens

And then it's the same two usual suspects That we just saw And it's the Chiefs again It's like It does make you feel Like Why did I even watch all year Just to get the

obvious result. But we're trying to give you reasons to care. Yeah. You know what? Let's go to the feedback. Most interactive show here on Fox Sports Radio. Mike in Ohio. The other layer of this you see on social media, people talking about the NFL being rigged.

And I just can't get with that conversation. I'm like, listen, I love a conspiracy as much as the next guy. I'll talk about UFOs or pyramids or JFK or anything all day. But if you really want me to believe that they make it sound like they get a call, right?

Like, do you really think they call? Yeah, we're calling down to the refs on the sideline. Vegas needs the chiefs. Like, do you really think that's happening? Like, who? They call, like, some mystery guy, like, the banker and deal or no deal? Oh, yeah, yeah. Hold on.

The offer has gone up. Thanks, Howie Mandel. Who do you think gets the call? Like, do we think the refs? And as I pointed out before, I mean, I know most NFL fans know this. most of them are judges, right? They're not just like Tom Dick or Harry's off the streets. These are men of honor.

But is it raised? I don't know if Tom Dick or Harry. Maybe Manny Moes and Jacks. I'm not certain. But your thoughts on it. If you just joined us, both Rich and I are rooting for history here. The chief Pete,

the three Pete, the three chief over the revenge of the evils. I don't know. Eagles are not underdogs by any means. I'm wishy-washy. I'll tell you what I'm going to do. You can't be wishing, I can because you have been,

and I'll give you the example. No, I haven't. Sometimes Kavino and I have watched a fight. Okay. And you don't really know who you're rooting for, and then the first round hits, and something inside of you tells you.

Yeah, no, that's true, because you're like, it's usually someone has an advantage, and you want to see that other person figure out a way to beat that advantage. Like you will... Right, you make your mind up. You'll watch.

I was rooting for the bills to beat the Ravens a couple weeks ago. But when the Ravens were making that comeback, then I'm like, oh, maybe I want the Ravens. I think your mind's allowed to change. Like, you can be watching a prize fight and be like, I don't know who I want to win. By round three, like, you could be like, yeah, let's go. I would say the best example of this is when the Russians turned on Drago.

I mean, they started rooting for Rocky, if you remember. I knew that was coming. I fight for me. Do you see. They were cheering for Rocky. But you're right. When you don't have a team in the race, you're allowed to change your mind. I don't know, man.

I do find the intriguing story right now the opposite of Dan Byer. Dan Byer puts more emphasis on the team that breaks up to history, that breaks the streak, that ruins the three-peat. I look back at what Jordan did and what Tom Brady couldn't do in the NFL. And I'm like, damn, if Mahomes does that, he's in a whole different category by himself. Mike in Ohio, your thoughts. What's up, buddy? I mean, when people say the fix is in, I'm always like, do they think...

Fixing. Do they think fixin? Well, wrestlers had CTE too, though, and still do. Rich likes fix-ins, but he doesn't like the fix. I love fixin. Fixing. I love fix-ins. Just like Kenny Powers and Stevie.

The fix is not in, but the fix-ins are in. So my point is, do we really think? that there's someone making a call or telling the refs like, oh yeah, throw a flag on this play. That seems preposterous. And I think you're an ass clown if you think so.

If you think that you're watching no, no, you know, Eagles commanders and someone's like, we need to throw a flag on it. Like, get out of here. I don't believe in a fix either, Rich, but when there's millions and millions and millions and billions and billions and billions of dollars

to be made and having the chiefs, in the Super Bowl is beneficial to your brand. Billions and billions. Think of how many Swifties are tuning in. I mean, it's not impossible. I'm definitely not that guy that believes it. But if you were to tell me, look, there's millions of more to be made having the Swifties

and that fan base in it again. There's something to be said about it. Like, I'm not going to close my ears off to the possibility. If players can flop, especially in like a game like soccer, NBA, let's be honest, why can't refs over penal wise. Yeah.

I mean, I get it. There's a possibility. It's all, it's human factor. I get it, but it's a... And it can go either way.

But hold on, let's unravel this even more. We can play it up. You could call a holding or pass interference on most place. It's a matter of, are you going to let them play, or is any little Jersey tug,

a PI in your mind? So my question to you then... Jersey tug, you say, huh? The Jersey tug. Is that what you're doing when you're back there? That was one of my moves in the late 90s. Don't get caught. Wow.

When... Ooh. You're talking about these referees. When you talk about these referees, I really want to know. Do you think they're calling the game because someone told them like, you know, hey, Frank, you're the line judge this week, right? We need the chiefs. Like, what do people think? Do they think that's what's happening?

I don't know how that works. But I would imagine, yeah, that the reps are tipped off by higher-ups in the NFL to make the calls that's in the best interest. of the chiefs. I mean, if that's what you believe. But here's such an easy, it's such an easy scapegoat, though. So up until Taylor's Shre. It's like Angel Hernandez. But Angel Hernandez is a terrible referee.

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. But he was an umpire. You question everything he does. This is a terrible example. Okay. I don't know what you're saying there for. Because Angel Hernandez, it's proven that his calls are bet.

Why isn't anyone proving that the NFL or bet? No, spy. People don't want to. to believe it. And that's the truth. They don't want to believe it. Okay. Can I just say this real quick, when the, the refs decide to arbitrarily just give the

chiefs a score because the other team they've had it up to hear with them, do you guys, that was the thing that made me go, hmm. That was weird, Sam. They were like, they're basically like out of penalty yardage because they were down like the one inch line. And they're like, you keep this up, we'll turn this car around. That was what? That was the first game, right?

So, no, I'm just saying like the, as it, like, Spot was saying like they can over penalize, but it's just funny that in that game, again. against the Eagles and the commanders. They had no other options, but to warn them and say, we will award a score to the Eagles. Sorry to get guys off track. Yeah, I know. I felt like the reframanding me or something.

But can I tell you that? That was odd. I mean, on Mondays, we do things that made you go, hmm, so save that thought, and we're going to get to all your feedback. But let's go to Dan Byyer for an update. DB, what's going on other than Super Bowl 59? I know. I know Kavito did the Jersey tug back in the day.

Any truth to the jersey swap? Was there anything happening? Oh, no. No. No. We don't talk about that, D.B. Not going down those roads, huh? Can you know? No. Not at all. No one else had 27 home run, so there was no one to swap jerseys with.

Yeah, and Rich wears an extra smearthium, so I can't really be in. I wasn't talking jerseys. Oh, yeah, go. And I wasn't talking clothing. I thought you were. You know what I'm talking? I'm talking about Jerry Jones, who did this Brian Schottnheimer as the Cowboys head coach today.

It might be couched as a less than glamorous hire. What I would say to you is I got here taking shots. Good things have happened. Let me tell you something. There's some stuff to be had over there where not many people go. There is. Don't think for one minute I won't take a shot. Cowboy fans, we're also taking shots after today for a different reason.

Just kidding. Raiders introduced Pete Carroll as their head coach, along with new GM John Spitech. Aaron Glenn introduced as the Jets head coach and was asked about Aaron Rogers. future in New York. Here's what I do know. Aaron Rogers will be talked about. It will be talked about. We've already texted that communication with Aaron Rogers. And as we continue to look at the roster, we'll make decisions accordingly. Liam Cohen introduced today as the Jaguars new head coach. Todd Monkin gets an extension as the Ravens Offensive Coordinator. Steelers owner Art Roney the 2nd believes that the team will sign either Russell Wilson or Justin Fields this offseason,

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That was so weird. Hey, man, I do. I take shots and, you know. Hey, man, and rooting and tooting and shots. How about Brian Schottenheimer sitting next to him? He's like, I know this is not a glamorous hire. Thanks, coach. Thanks, owner, boss.

Brian Chonheimer immediately took out his phone. He's like, what do I look bad? He was looking at his selfie. Glamourous. Nothing glamorous about Brian Chonheimer. So listen, your thoughts, when people say the NFL is rigged, we got to get to that. Plus, the lamest thing I'm seeing people post on social media about football,

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Right. Right. Welcome back to the C&R show program. And by the way, Iowa Sam getting crafty and creative today. This is Red Skies by the Fix. Red Skies a la Chief's victory by the NFL. How about that, Rich? How do you like that? How about that? How about that? Able entendre. Huh? So again, we're Covino and Rich, live from the tire rack.com studio. I'm live from John.com. I'm live from John. Jersey right now. And I'll be back on the West Side tomorrow, but wherever I go, I bring the Fox Sports Radio with me, bro. And we were talking about

rooting interest because we understand, like, oh, Chief's Eagles, whoopin' do, we get it, but it's 3P, it's history, and it's revenge with Sequin, a whole new team. It's a comeback story for the Eagles. So there are

reasons to care. we'll take your phone calls, but Rich, we've been holding it off. I think we get into it. Are you ready? Yeah. Little things that made you go, hmm. Let's go, baby. Things that make you go.

Hmm. Things that make you go. You know, Iowa Samuel pointed it out that that end goal play on like the one foot line for the Eagles. Yeah. When Washington, you know, tried to read the snap count multiple times in a row, we, you know, everyone was in the same book, right? On the same page as far as like, I didn't know the ref could award a touchdown if you wanted to.

Dude, that was, I don't, I don't know. Yeah, that was really odd. I'll turn this damn bus around. That's what it was like. Because to me, like, all right, the advantage of, listen, the major disadvantages, you're the defense and the other team is inches away from scoring. Your only hope is to jump the count and guess.

Really, it was that one guy, though. It was like the, what, Voo-Vu guy? Vuvuzela dude. Yeah, Vuvazel dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you're jumping to try to read the snap count, that's your only real hope of beating the push, the tush push on the one foot line.

But I don't know how that's illegal in any way. Like, I almost feel like keep doing it until you guess. Yeah, and he did. I loved what your guys is homie, Kevin Burkart said. This is the longest second down in NFL history. That's funny. I mean, there's a part of me that's like, what did you want him to do?

Just give in? Like, to me, the only way to possibly stop it was to guess. And eventually the refs would have. I would have loved to see that. How did they go in Vegas? Who gets credit for that touchdown? Is there a prop bet?

Like unassigned touchdown plus a million? Rich, the problem though is that the refs use penalty yards to punish a team. And when you run out of them, like they did, you're at like the, you know, the half a yard line. They have no other chance at that point if the other team won't stop doing the, you know, the push. Yeah, well, trying to counter the push, Dan. But it did make me say, hmm, and it made me feel like they can't do that. Is that even? It's like when I got a ticket, Rich, remember for being arrogant, the officer gave me a ticket.

I'm like, you can't give me a ticket. You could do that? I don't know. Have you met Kavino? There are penalties that could be handed out, like, in the regular field of play if you are trying to waste time on the clock, where if you can continue to make the same penalty, they can charge you 15 yards for a sportsman-like conduct and end it. But then to Sam's point, like 15 yards.

from six inches, like, you know, half the distance of that, like, what's the point? Eventually, they go up there and they, boop, like, they just move them up here. Yeah, the nose of the ball crosses the goal line. Okay, this is a touchdown. So this is where we open it up to the Fox Sports Radio Nation. Things that made you go,

it could be anything from the weekend, but, I mean, we had two great games and lots of takeaway. So any observations you made, hit us up now. 87799 on Fox. We're at Covino and Rich. One of the biggest head scratchers for Rich is how anybody could say it's a fix. We already established that. Do you really believe that?

I'll give you another thing that made me go, was Washington. It was really a fun ride for Jaden Daniels. Their fan base should be super pumped about the future. But you see it a lot in the NCAA tournament where like a Cinderella team goes on a run. And then once they get to the final four or elite eight, reality hits.

And it's like... They're outclass. Yeah, they're outclassed. And like, by doing that, while you enjoyed their fun, they took away the better matchup, and I think by Washington upsetting Detroit, we were sort of robbed of Eagles, Detroit. No question.

I don't think there's any question. I mean, they're in great position moving forward. They'll make some defensive adjustments, but we were robbed of a better matchup. So I think that made us go, and I think that Josh Allen, that wasn't a first down, huh? I think that's what everyone's going to be talking about.

You know what I thought, man, going for those two-point conversions, suck the steam out. Take the points. I thought Josh Allen's body length. which was a little off when you compared it to what was going on in the other side. All right. Well, you know what? The rest of your observations will get to those next. On Monday. Cavino Rich right here. Fox Sports Radio. Hang time.

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