The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - History was made last night
Episode Date: October 23, 2024Colin gives his thoughts on LeBron James making history by playing in an NBA game with his son Bronny and what this means for the Lakers title chances this year The Knicks aren't quite ready to compet...e against the Celtics See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So Wednesday, lots and lots to talk about in L.A.
LeBron and Brony, World Series coming up with the Dodgers and Yankees.
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So years ago, J. Mack, Joel Clatton one hour, when I was a local news anchor, sports guy,
I love sports.
And every year, one of the local teams, you know, would get into the Final Four or a World Series.
And the news director would make the sports guys have to do, like, fluffy sports stories, palm, palm waving stories.
And I'm like, I'm a sports guy.
I have sources.
Why don't you send the lightweight news people to do sports stories?
So I felt like last night, last night, it was basically for the lightweights who don't really follow sports, the influencers, Brani and LeBronner playing, and it was good for their family, that's cool, and their business partners, and that's cool, and influencers, and people that don't really watch the game, it will have zero impact.
It was cool.
It was a moment.
First father or son duo.
It was great.
get it. It was a moment. It'll have zero impact on the Lakers. In fact, if JJ Reddick is forced
to play Brony, it will hurt the team. I mean, you saw Aunt Edwards looked at Brony as a liability.
Let's go attack him. Brony is small. He's 6-1 and he's not a point guard. He's a 6-1 off-guard.
He would not be a dominant G-League player. He would be a G-League player. And I get, I get it, I get it. I live in
Los Angeles, red carpet, Hollywood.
I get it.
I've said before, LeBron carried the league for 15 years.
You're doing them a solid.
The Lakers told other teams, don't draft brawny.
I get it.
I had no animosity.
I think it's fun.
The Griffies.
I'm a Seattle kid.
The Griffies, the kid, dad and son play together.
I get it.
But if we're serious here, this is just fluff.
This is for influencer types.
You know, the cameras come out.
taking pictures. I was there. That's fine. I mean, you go to a restaurant in L.A. It's 23-year-olds.
I mean, taking pictures of their food. Like, I get it. But for serious basketball people,
all I watched was J.J. Reddick, and the thing I would be encouraged about, the Lakers ball movement
was better than it was with Dharvanham. The spacing was better than it was with
Darwinham. And Anthony Davis got to the free throw line 15 times. So Anthony Davis,
J.J. Reddick is all in and is an offensive coach.
knows how to use him better than Darwin Ham did.
That's what I watched.
The other stuff felt like a soft launch for a Kardashian show.
But I mean, what I was watching was, oh, my God, this is the most engaged.
Anthony Davis is all in.
LeBron's still fine.
Austin Rivers has put on 10 pounds of muscle.
Dalton Connect, that's fun.
Could he win rookie of the year?
But all I cared about last night, and again, maybe I'm old school.
I don't want to be grumpy old guy.
The brawny thing was cool.
for the family. Savannah, LeBron,
the kids. It's a great moment. It's amazing.
Let's not let it get
in the way of stuff. I'm
looking at JJ Reddick. I'm
looking at Anthony Davis,
the rookie. I still think
they could use another three-point shooter,
but in the end, I understand
what last night
was. Right?
It's the local news anchors
pretending they care about sports because the
team's in the Super Bowl. It's bring
out the cameras and the iPhones. It's
adorable. I'm happy for LeBron and his
family. It's an amazing family.
American success story.
Bronny seems like a nice kid, but he's a
6-1 off-guard. They don't exist in the NBA.
I mean, 6-1 point guards,
you have to be so athletic.
You've got to be John Morant to be a small point
guard to succeed in this league.
To be a small off-guard, you
would have to be the best three-point shooter or the best
defender at 6-1 in league history.
So can we just, you know,
so let's just give them
moment. It's nice. Here's
Brony, who's a good kid, works
hard, seems like a joyful person,
good family, and LeBron
after.
Try not to focus on
everything that's
going on around me and try to focus
on going in as a rookie
and not trying to mess up.
But, yeah,
I mean, I totally did feel
the energy and
yeah, I appreciate the Laker Nation
for, you know, showing the support for me and
my
done. We still had a job to do when we checked in. We wasn't trying to make it a circus. We
wasn't trying to make it about us. We wanted to make it about the team. And, you know, for us to go
out there and continue to play the brand of basketball and that coach your staff and our teammates
wanted us to play, we kept that, we kept the main thing, the main thing while we was on the floor.
And that was good for all of us. Yes, it wasn't a circus. It wasn't. The Lakers won.
Minnesota was a little out of sorts in the first half. Cats gone. Julius Randolin.
Dontey Devenzo is going to be a nice fit.
Minnesota is going to be fine.
They have a really good coaching staff.
They're good players.
I think they could be as good or better than last year.
They didn't get their feet under them in the first half.
It's the first game.
Don't make too much of Minnesota.
I like their pieces.
Julius Randall, you know, dribbles too much, takes the air out of the ball, not my favorite.
And in the moment was not a circus.
But let's be honest, if you're going to force the Lakers to play Brony, it will be,
and it'll get in the way of what a team that may be at best a playing team.
But JJ Reddick, I thought the spacing, the movement, and his use of Anthony Davis was fantastic.
That's what I thought.
Okay, so, well, well, well, if you watch the early game, it capped off what was another wonderful week for New York sports.
The Giants are again hideous and hopeless.
The Jets, what a shock.
They've already fired a coach.
They're a mess.
The Mets, cute story, bye-bye, overwhelmed by the Dodgers' bats.
and the Knicks won't be able to compete against the Celtics
this year. Thanks for flying United.
Yeah, that was ugly.
The Celtics led at one point by 35 points.
Now, let's be fair, the Knicks, and they know this,
they have to get another three-point shooter.
They moved Dante DiVincenzo to get Carl Anthony Towns.
Now, Kat's the better player, and they need size to compete against,
you know, Porzinger's and Ambide and Janus.
I totally got the move.
but McHale Bridges gives the Knicks another wing defender
but you're still going to make threes not just defend them and Boston
I mean Boston last season led the NBA in three point shots and makes
yet they decided during the offseason let's shoot more
last year they average 42 last night they shot 61
and so you got a couple of new Knicks
and they're trying to kind of like Minnesota figure out what they are
and you have the returning champs one three
through eight. There's nobody close to the Celtics in the league. Oklahoma City's good. One through
eight. Denver, Minnesota. Denver was better a couple years ago, one through eight. That's why they
won the title. The Knicks one through eight can't compete with the Celtics one through eight. So they've
got to add a piece. Maybe at the trade deadline, they can go take a big swing. They'll defend
the three better with McAil Bridges. But what you were watching last night was a table saw and
fresh wood. That wasn't competitive. And the Knicks will not beat the Celtics unless they go get
another three-point shooter.
And Dante DeVincenzo was that guy last year.
But what I see last night is two things.
Okay, so Devenzo's gone.
That's going to be more pressure on Brunson.
Because Mikhail Bridges is not a playmaker.
He's not a shot creator.
He was at his best in Phoenix when they had Devin Booker, Chris Paul spacing.
That's when he was at his best.
So Brunson last year fell apart physically because the team was two Jalen Brunson,
dominant and centric.
Well, now by losing Dante DeVincenzo,
that's more pressure offensively on Brunson.
And Isaiah Hartenstein, the big kid they sent to OKC,
or that signed with OKC.
He gave you about 8, 9, 10 points a night.
Gritty, blue collar, tough guy, high percentage.
Those were freebie points.
Eight.
They're all gone.
And Devengenzo, catch and shoot threes.
That's out the door.
So you're going to need Carl Anthony Towns to give you 26 a night.
And he'll have 32-point nights.
and then I have 19 point nights and he gets into his feelings.
So I do feel like watching last night is they have to add another piece.
Otherwise, it's going to become, hey, Jalen Brunson, save us.
And I'm sorry, when Derek White's your fourth or fifth best player,
I mean, he would be, I mean, he would be arguably the next second best player.
So this team, unless they get another shooter and score and consistency from Kat,
and that's always been the issue, Kat's talent's great,
consistency not so great
sometimes gets a little weird
in big spots
and then it can be great in spots
you don't need him
I feel like last night
is
Knicks will be fine
in March
but last night
that's true serum
that's how good the Celtics are
1 through 8
and how much you need
Jalen Brunson and score 38
to even compete with Boston
here's Tibbs after
I think you have to have the
appropriate reaction to it.
It's disappointing that we didn't play better, but I'm not disappointed in our team.
For the record, the Celtics were 29 of 61 on threes.
So they're not going to shoot that most nights.
They may go 19 of 61.
That would be closer to what teams would on average shoot.
But one through eight, make no doubt.
there's a real argument to be made that the only teams that can
match up both ends of the floor
against the Celtics are out west. I think O'KC and Denver matchup.
Minnesota, let's wait and see on that. Dallas, hey, listen, if Kyrie, Clay,
and Luca can get along, maybe they match up with threes.
But right now, the Knicks have to add another shooter.
And, you know, Mikhail Bridges, we've got to be honest here, he's not a shot creator.
Okay, he can finish, but he's not a shot.
shot creator. So it's going to be very much on Jalen Brunson like it was last year. The good news is
Brunson's a terrific player better than anybody thought he would be in New York. And so that's good.
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I've gone through some permutations of why that could be
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Are you interested in Cooper Cup?
Sounds a little fishy.
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I'll just, I'll leave it at that.
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So we're getting closer to the trading deadline.
Trading deadline here, very, very close.
You're getting the Cooper Cup rumors.
I do buy some of those.
He's brittle and expensive,
but he could make an impact for a team that needs a shot in the arm.
Stafford stuff I don't buy.
And then you're going to have team shopping people.
As J-Mack pointed out,
some teams are putting stuff out there.
They want to lubricate some action in the league.
They want to get stuff going.
So there's a lot of game playing.
It's like before the draft.
Mel Kuyper once told me before a draft,
He never gets lied to more than the two weeks before the draft.
So you have to kind of sort out what's true, what's not true.
So something that started buzzing yesterday,
and all of a sudden we saw DeAndre Hopkins going to the Kansas City Chiefs from Tennessee.
So he goes from the Tennessee and Will Levis to Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid.
He may want to play for free now.
So Hop is not a D.Hop's not a speed guy.
They got Xavier Worthy on the outside.
That's their speed guy.
I don't think Worthy's ever going to be a 15 target guy.
And at this point in his career, either is D.Hop.
but he's a 50-50 ball guy.
You can throw it up.
He can make plays.
He's a veteran.
It's like Amari Cooper like to the bills.
Absolutely helps the team.
Don't expect 100 catches.
Don't expect breakaway speed.
But this is what the Kansas City Chiefs do.
They find a piece and if it works or doesn't work, it's there quickly.
Juju Smith-Schuster worked, moved him, brought him back.
Kedarius Tony, kind of worked, kind of didn't, moved him quickly.
It's cost effective.
If the chiefs are doing it, it's going to be cost effective.
It's going to be smart.
They're not going to stay with these players forever.
Mahomes, Reed, Kelsey, Chris Jones, those guys and maybe one of their corners, that's the foundation.
You know what?
Kansas City now is like that show American Pickers, where they kind of go around and they go shopping in some odd places for antiques, you know, stuff past its prime.
And it's, oh, let's just, let's drive over to Tennessee here and get D-Hop.
in a vintage oil can.
I mean, that's kind of what they do now.
And it's not a foundational piece.
It's not going to make you rich.
You go to these antique stores.
You're not going to get rich.
All the smart pickers already been there.
But it is something.
And what Kansas City can do now, because they have the foundation that is so strong,
they can do this.
They can go find value pieces.
Juju Smith-Schuster was great.
He's on the market.
Nobody wants him.
Like, Pittsburgh can't really figure out offense.
And it goes to Kansas City and has, like, lots of targets and catches in a playoff game.
And they're like, well, we're not going to pay you.
He goes to New England.
And they don't know how to use them either.
So the two defensive cultures, Pittsburgh and New England,
can't figure out how to use Jujsman Schuster.
Kansas City's like, yeah, we'll use him.
And then we'll let go.
Oh, you will use him again.
And he's valuable.
He's a valuable piece for them.
He's not a cornerstone.
I think DeHop's going to be the same guy.
And listen, they wouldn't have made this move without Rishie Rice.
They only have a give up a fourth rounder.
But we talked about this yesterday.
The difference in this league is not just quarterbacks.
It's front offices.
Baltimore, Derek Henry.
Dallas sure could have used him.
Baltimore went and got him.
The Rams, OBJ, dysfunctional Cleveland.
It's a headache.
OBJ went to the Rams.
He was no headache at all.
Helped him get to the Super Bowl.
He was a great piece.
Got hurt in the Super Bowl.
But, I mean, the Rams are like,
and by the way, Belichick did this for years in New England,
where he would go to a Cleveland or a second tier team.
And there's an outside linebacker,
situational pass rusher.
They don't know how to use him.
They're in chaos.
We'll bring him in.
Remember Collins, the linebacker?
They did that a couple times.
It's like, this is what the good teams do.
This is what the Rams did with OBJ.
It's what Kansas City has done with like a Juju Smith-Schuster or D-Hop.
It's what Baltimore did with Derek Henry.
We got the foundation.
We got the hardball, the Lamar, the Ronnie Stanley, a couple of defenders, a pass rusher.
We'll move off, linebackers.
We'll move off.
But we got our center.
We got our left tackle.
We got the quarterback, the coach.
We got the star safety, one pass rusher.
And we'll just find these little pieces that fit in.
They're not there for long.
The op's not going to be there probably in 25 games, but that's okay.
OBJ served the purpose, was a great ram, worked hard, didn't seek constant intention,
got him get to a Super Bowl, and they got a ring out of it.
So it was all good.
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Let's get started with the New York football Jets Colin.
Losers of four straight.
Trying to get past the drama, get a dull.
against the Patriots this weekend.
Aaron Rogers talked about New York's poor play, saying the Jets are playing with too much anger
and not enough enjoyment.
I wonder where that's coming from.
Rogers, it starts with me.
I've got to bring the right energy every single day, and especially on game day,
I need to be a great leader.
Now you're talking, Aaron.
Okay.
Now, Rogers did pop up on the injury report, Colin, with a hamstring injury,
and he's claiming ankle and knee injuries.
So the body's starting to wear down into his 40s.
Yeah, they're not a playoff team.
I thought they would be close.
I think they can get closer.
But this whole thing playing with too much anger, that's not why they're losing.
They got rid of their best coach.
Aaron's not a galvanizer.
He's just talented.
His buddy was the OC and over his head.
They had to switch that.
This has nothing to do with anger and joy.
Some of my best shows are when I'm happy.
Some are when I'm sad.
Some are when I'm angry.
Nobody cares.
You compartmentalize that.
That's personal.
It's not anger, joy.
You'll ask coaches, they'll have a terrible week of Super Bowl practice, come out and play flawless.
You go ask coaches all the time.
Like, did you know they'd play well?
And you're like, we had a bad week of practice.
We had a great Sunday.
I mean, joy, happy, and nonsense.
I get that anger, George.
But not to be body language expert guy, but every single time the cameras pan to Rogers, he doesn't look happy.
He doesn't look like he's having fun.
And when you're teammates and you look to the leader, the Hall of Famer, and he's just sitting here.
And they're expressionless, Colin, like, you can say that.
You know, I think I said this yesterday and I'll say it again.
The Jets were Tampa before Brady.
Good receivers, good players, but you just like, is it the right coach?
We just need somebody to bring it all together.
Tom has that capability as a human being.
Forget the football player.
As a human being.
I mean, Tom used to introduce himself to every rookie, every year he'd go up and go,
Hi, I'm Tom Brady.
I mean, that's like Mick Jagger at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Hi, I'm Mick Jagger.
Nice to meet you, young artist.
But that's who Tom is.
Tom's a unifier.
Even at Fox, everybody that works with Tom.
Hard worker, joyful, fun guy.
That's who he is.
We also had interviewed Jay Cutler here.
That's not who he is.
So not everybody, I mean, like Russell Wilson is over, it's like almost bizarrely optimistic.
Some guys are more cynical.
Everybody's got a personality.
But the idea that you could throw Brady into Tampa or the Jets,
it would work, you can, you can see that. That's who he is. Aaron is just absolutely gifted.
So the idea that he's moody, Aaron's always been moody. That's his personality.
Okay, so it's not just moody. He's often isolated, Colin. You see him sitting on the bench and
there's nobody on either side of him. And then you look at like Josh Allen on the bench and Mahomes,
and I know different story because these teams are winning, but like Lamar Jackson's always
surrounded by dudes. People like Lamar Jackson. He's a cool guy. He's fun to be around. He's
cracking jokes. I know he's at the top of his game right now. But if you look at Lamar, he's
always sitting next to guys on the sideline.
I see Rogers, he's isolated.
And I also feel that Lamar Jackson is the soul of the Ravens,
and he's very, very well-liked.
He's one of the guys.
I don't think Aaron has ever felt like, even when he was in Green Bay,
it always felt like it was the Aaron Rogers Corporation under the LLC of the Packers.
I mean, I knew he was a Packer, but once Brady started stacking trophies and the
comparison between Aaron and Brady got lobsided.
Aaron got a little whizier, a little, a little, you know, he went into a different kind of,
he shifted to a different gear and it was never quite the same.
He was always a corporation, an S-Corp under a different LLC, and I always felt Brady
Belichick for, that was just one big corporation.
Kraft, Belichick, Brady, Gronk, Edelman.
It was one big, I feel that with Kansas City.
I feel that with Baltimore.
I feel like that Stafford.
Sneed,
Stan Cronkett, certain organ
is, I don't feel that with Dallas, it's the Jones family,
and the coach they're about to fire.
Yeah, like Belichick would call out Brady in the room.
And you know what?
Yeah, but that shows that if I can call out Brady, I can call out.
That's right.
I don't see anybody in the Jets calling out Aaron Rogers.
And, you know, players looking at him, well, Rogers,
what have you won?
What have you ever done in your career?
I got MVP's, I got Super Bowl.
Like, it's just a bad situation.
It was always a lobsided relationship,
the first day Aaron hit the soil in New York.
I don't love it.
But I'm remaining optimistic.
Let's go to the next story.
Josh Allen has, I don't know if you saw this.
Last year he threw a career high, 18 interceptions.
Now this year, none.
Unbelievable.
He doesn't have any interceptions.
Two fumbles this year.
Yeah.
12 TD passes.
Well, Sean McDermen had a ton of praise for how Alan has protected the ball this year.
Tremendous, tremendous job.
He really has.
I couldn't be more pleased with the,
way we protected the house on offense and special teams. So all in all, special teams and offense,
led by Josh, they've done a great job protecting the house. Yeah, it's strange to go from a lot.
I mean, that would be like James Winston coming into a season and having no turnovers through seven
weeks. I always baked in Josh Allen turnovers. It's part of who he is. I mean, you get a Superman,
and sometimes, you know, he goes a little too fast for the game. Like, I've never thought,
Andrew Luck is a guy I just baked in interceptions.
Peyton Manning and John Elway, great players.
I bake in an interception.
I mean, Peyton is going 100 miles an hour.
He's got a zillion things in his head.
He's playing ahead of the rest of the players.
If he throws 38 times, Peyton has a pick.
I can live with it.
Josh, I always said, a turnover of a game.
The way he runs and throws.
For him to not have any is bizarre.
So the matchup this week is against Seattle.
I know.
On the road.
Seattle should get their top corner woolen back.
This could be the week we see him for a pick.
I see a lot of man coverage in the future, you know, Woolen.
They matchup really Witherspoon in the slot against Shakir.
Like, these are good matchups for Seattle.
Yes.
Interesting game, Colin.
But it's one of the really good games this week.
And I think when Seattle is healthy defensively, I mean, go ask Kirk Cousins.
They're a handful.
Slight worry about Gino Smith against his Buffalo secondary, which is playing pretty well.
although Mason Rudolph had a lot of success against this Buffalo defense last week.
I'm leaning Seattle, but I don't know, but Josh Allen is on a heater right now.
And I know who's a better coach in that game?
McDermott.
Yeah.
I like McDonald a lot.
Final story, Colin, is Major League Baseball.
We've got a clash of Titans in the World Series.
It's Aaron Judge and Shohei Otani.
Game one is on Fox.
Whole series is on Fox.
Both Judge and Otani will likely land their respective.
league MVP awards at the end of the season.
But in the meantime, Judge praised Otani ahead of their matchup.
Hits for average, hits for power, the speed,
doing what he did this year with the 50 stolen bases.
That's, it got talked about a lot, but I don't think it got talked about enough.
It's just he's an impressive, impressive athlete, you know, the best player in the game.
And, you know, what an ambassador for this sport.
Yeah, I mean, here's the thing.
People view it as Otani and Aaron Judge.
is everybody know how good Mookie Betz is?
I mean, Mookie Betz, power, speed, glove, multiple positions, steal a base, hit for average.
Mookiee Betz is on any night the best player when these two players are on the field.
He'll have a game in this series or two when Mookie will be the best player in the game.
It really comes down to this.
The Yankees starting pitching is great.
Is their bullpen good enough?
So I think the whole world series is going to come down to the seven.
eighth, eighth and ninth innings, can the Yankees bull?
Because the Dodgers are throwing, and here's the other thing.
The Dodgers would like a quicker series, because they have to use the bullpen so much now
with all their injuries, that's fine for the first five games.
But if you get into game six and game seven and you're the Dodgers, and you're using
guys who you'd like to use twice in the series, now you're using the guy a third and a fourth
time in a series.
So if the series is short, if you told me it goes five games, I'd say Dodgers.
If it goes seven, the advantage has moved to New York because they have better start
pitching. You get Garrett Cole for a second time. By game seven, you could probably pitch
Garrett Cole for two innings if you wanted to win a trophy. Yeah, I mean, this should be a long
series. I see here, Otani's 50th home run ball just was sold. Do you want to guess what it went
for? Let me guess. Let me guess. I mean, this is a tough one. Okay, okay. Again, it is...
A hint. Mark McGuire's 70th went for $3 million. Okay, so I would say two.
wrong way
it went for 4.39 million dollars
Otani's 50th home run ball
that is
listen man this guy is
you know there's only one piece of memorabilia
my entire life
that I've won
you'll never
It's got to be a 70s baseball guy
No no no it's a movie thing
There's a Hannibal Lecter's mask
Oh gosh you're obsessed with I would have spent
I would have spent more
than somebody spent on it, and I didn't know it was available.
It's the only thing in my life.
It was reasonably priced?
It was less, it went for less than I would have guessed,
and had I been somebody who was connected to that world,
I would have made a bit on it.
That's the only, I've seen that movie 42 times.
Clarice, great movie.
I won't do imitation, sorry then.
That just leaked out.
It's a great movie.
You don't wear that for Halloween, the mask, and they had a play?
It's, it's, it's the only thing.
Like, I, you know, I was a kid, I had baseball cards.
I collected NBA cards.
Yeah, I got those.
Yeah, baseball cards were fine, too many games.
I'm a kid, I was, even as a kid, I was ADD.
Like when I was seven, I had NBA cards everywhere.
NFL cards?
Not really.
I got some good NFL cards.
I had an NFL Cleveland Brown's jersey.
That was it.
Wow.
Don't ask.
Who was a quarterback?
Bernie Kosar?
Brian Seip.
California.
Is that a real person?
Come on.
No, Brian Seip was good.
Brian Seid.
Hey, look it up.
70s.
Brian Seitz.
I'm sure.
You want some stats?
I'll give you some numbers.
No, that's okay.
I'm good.
Get on the 70s football stats for the Browns.
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The Heard Live News.
Number 17, Brian Seit from California.
You know, my guys, when I start doing this, they just are like, let's get through the segment.
You can hear people turning the channel.
So I want to get to that.
So big rumors yesterday on the inner web that the Rams are trading Cooper Cup,
a very good player.
And Matt Stafford.
was on the market with Minnesota.
I don't believe that.
And as J-Mack said, that could be out there for a reason.
So I don't see Sean McVeigh moving off Matt Stafford
and then for the next couple of years rolling the dice on a rookie quarterback
in what I've been told by two executives I trust is a very soft quarterback draft.
Shadour Sanders, people like a lot.
Everybody else has baggage.
Some of it you haven't heard about yet.
it is a really soft quarterback draft because last year was amazing.
We haven't seen J.J. McCarthy.
He looked great in the preseason.
We haven't seen much of Pennix.
He looked good in the preseason.
And we know Caleb, Bo Nix, Jaden Daniels, we know they can play already.
So I don't see my takeaway is Matt Stafford's got two years left in his contract.
And then they don't owe him anything.
They has no guaranteed money in 26.
They can move off that.
What I would do, I would just, for the rest of the rest of the rest of,
rest of his contract, I would surround Matt Stafford with as much as I could.
The division is wide open because San Francisco clearly, clearly is getting older.
Seattle doesn't have a great quarterback, and Arizona's a poorly run outfit.
And Stafford is still on any given Sunday, a top three to four quarterback in the NFL.
And the Rams are not a desperate team.
They need a number one corner.
They need their right tackle of the future, and they've got to get more speed at receiver on the perimeter.
They've got the inside guy, the body, Puka Nakua.
By the way, he's now getting close to being available.
Cooper Cup this week is available.
You forget about the Rams.
So the Rams got a bad draw this year.
They drew the NFC North, the best division by a mile in football.
So they've already played Chicago, Green Bay, and Detroit.
And those are all one-score games, and that's without like Puka and Cooper Cup.
The opener, when everybody was healthy against Detroit, they lost 2620.
Detroit's the best team right now in the NFC and maybe the best team in the NFL and when they were healthy they went toe to toe with them.
Then the entire offensive line fell apart.
Puka Cooper Cup are gone.
So the Rams got a bad draw.
They're two and four.
They are absolutely not out of the playoff race.
If they can beat Minnesota tomorrow night go three and four, they will have all those NFC North teams off their schedule.
And then you get, you know, you start getting the CIOs twice, Arizona twice.
They've already beaten San Francisco.
So they're fine.
I don't buy the Stafford thing.
They need a corner, a tackle, a speed receiver.
Probably a young safety.
And maybe, you know, next year, you can draft a quarterback, but the class, you know,
in two years the quarterback class is supposed to be better than this year.
But I don't buy the Stafford thing because I think the Rams are still a playoff wildcard team.
Hell, they could win the division.
You don't trust Seattle?
Seattle loses the Buffalo.
You think that's the answer?
Arizona's hot and cold.
They can beat the Niners, then get routed by Greenfield.
bet you don't know what you get with Arizona. In San Francisco, we've seen them in the last two years
when they face the good teams, namely the chiefs, Baltimore. They get run. They don't match up necessarily.
So I don't buy this stuff at all. Their defense is inexpensive, really, really good, and they don't
have to pay anybody for about three years. So go buy a big star receiver. If you move off Cooper
Cup, get draft picks, get a tackle, get a corner. I don't buy it. I think it's one of those. Now,
now, could it happen? Sure. I'm not on the.
phone all day. It could happen. The Cooper Cup rumors I buy. Again, I think Cooper Cup to the right team,
maybe Pittsburgh says, you know what, we need a slot receiver. We got pickings on the outside. We got
Najee Harris. We need a nine to ten target guy, seven catch guy on the slot with Russell Wilson.
I could see Pittsburgh making that move and giving them a third round pick, maybe a fourth.
But Stafford, on any Sundays, one of the five best quarterbacks. And I don't think McVeigh is going to
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For the first time since 1981, the Los Angeles Dodgers and the New York Yankees.
It's going to be great.
First time since 1956, you're on the home run champions facing off in the World Series.
I want the world to see Shohei Otani on the biggest stage.
The 12th Dodger Yankee World Series.
This is the absolute ultimate.
My dream world series, what I played was Yankee Dodgers.
Game one Friday night on Fox, one of the classic rivalries in the sport were set for a Dream World Series.
Friday night on Fox, the stage is set for an iconic showdown.
Aaron Judge leads the Yankees against Shohei Otani and the Dodgers in a historic World Series class.
Game 1 from Dodgers Stadium begins at 7 p.m. Eastern on Fox.
So game 1 is crucial for the Yankees.
The Yankees won a longer series.
They have more elite arms available.
I mean, basically the Dodgers have two pitchers.
Both will have to go twice.
They don't have a third elite arm.
There's too many injuries.
So the longer the series goes, the Yankees have more elite arms.
So winning game one in show.
the series goes five games.
Nobody's sweeping the Dodgers.
They have too many good bats.
Even if the Yankees out pitch and outplay the Dodgers,
you can see the Dodgers winning some games on the eighth and ninth inning
because the Yankee bullpen is not as good as the Dodger bullpen has been.
So Yankees won a long series.
The advantages, the longer the series go you think are for the Yankees.
The Dodgers have been using bullpens, which has been great.
It's been fantastic.
But you don't want to use some guys out of the bullpen a third.
time in a series, which is probably what you'd have to do if you go six or seven games.
So it works out to be a fascinating chess match with Aaron Boone and Dave Roberts.
Yankees want to make sure when they do that pitching advantage like a Garrett Cole, you get
the W because if it goes bullpen or batting order, advantage probably Dodgers.
So I can't wait for it.
So an interesting story is I spent the weekend in Chicago and there's a lot of bear hats out
there.
People are all fired up.
Everybody's like how you think the bears are.
and I was telling people that it takes steps.
And a great example for the bears to watch,
and it's not perfectly analogous, is Detroit.
So Detroit gets a new quarterback and gets a new coach, Dan Campbell.
And the bears have Iber Fluth.
He's a holdover.
So it's not perfectly aligned.
But the first year, you're like, you know, winning some games,
but you're not an elite team, but man, do they play hard?
And then the second year with Dan Campbell and golf, you're like,
man, they're putting some pieces together.
This feels like it's getting close to maybe a wildcard team.
And then year three last year, you're like, oh, that's a good team.
A little young, maybe not a Super Bowl team, that's a good team.
And now we're in year four and you're like, that's probably the best team in the NFC.
Four years with the right coach, the right GM, the right quarterback, the right tackles.
So it's steps.
This is step one.
step two for all we know
iberfluse isn't there but step one is
okay
this rookie quarterback's good
let's keep developing it
let's keep adding pieces to it let's beat the teams like
tennessee carolina jacksonville we should beat
okay check check check
but remember this is now easily
easily the best division in football
okay so
uh i look at the schedule and you got three more weeks
without a lot of turbulence.
At Washington, without
Jayden Daniels maybe, at Arizona,
they're a mess.
We never know what you get with Arizona.
And then New England.
So is seven and two
a possibility? Yes, if
Jayden Daniels doesn't play. Let's go, let's say it goes
six and three. You win two of those.
So you're six and three.
So that step is
we got the right quarterback.
We won the games we should win.
And then you look at the
the final eight games, it's a lot of at Detroit,
at Minnesota, at Green Bay, at San Francisco.
You're not going to breeze through those.
If you could go 500, tick or take parade.
So my take on Chicago is it steps,
the quarterback's right, O line probably needs another stud,
receivers are nice,
Eber Fluse is very good on the defensive side.
It's like Houston last year.
Houston got everything right.
They got the coach right.
Houston got the quarterback right.
They had a great left tackle.
They hit on some draft picks.
You're like, oh, Houston.
But you didn't think they were a Super Bowl team.
Now, this year with Houston,
they had Joe Mixon.
They had another draft pick or two.
You're like, oh, I really like Houston.
And you see how bumpy it's been for Houston?
You see him get blown out at Minnesota early?
You see them lose this past weekend?
Oh, because Houston now had to play the NFC North.
It's pretty hard to go to Green Bay and win.
Pretty hard to go to Minnesota and win.
You notice that?
So Houston is probably going to be ahead of Chicago because the division's easier.
But this year, Houston gets a bad draw.
Oh, they got to play in Bears Division.
Yeah, it's not.
Here's the thing.
It takes steps, and those steps are always quicker if you're in a bad division.
The problem with the Bears is they're now moving in a month.
into the schlog of the best division with a lot of ats.
So it's going to get bumpy.
And if you could do 500, if you can come out of this next three-game stretch with six wins,
and then you can get three more.
Now, you laugh, but three more.
Can you split with Detroit?
Can you split with Green Bay?
I'm not joking here.
That's a big ask, because you're not as good as those teams.
I mean, let's be honest about it.
Detroit's got a better roster, and right now a better course.
quarterback. Minnesota has a better coach and a better receiving group. Believe it or not,
they do, Justin Jefferson. And then Green Bay has got a better coach, a better organization,
deeper wide receiver core, maybe younger but deeper, better O-line probably. So those, in San Francisco's
just got better players. So it's, it's, it's going to get real cold. Chicago always gets cold
in about two weeks. It's going to get real cold here in about three weeks.
is that, you know, the wind off the lake called at Detroit, at Green Bay, at Minnesota, at San Francisco.
Take a deep breath.
This is very much Houston in a tougher division.
Detroit's done virtually everything right.
Brad Holmes, a great GM.
And by the way, Detroit and Chicago do not have great owners.
And they got the coach right, the GM right, the quarterback right, the offensive tackles right,
and here in year four, we finally look at Detroit and go,
I'd be disappointed if they didn't get to the NFC championship.
And they've done everything right.
By the way, Houston, weak owners, coach right, quarterback right, OC right, left tackle right, acquisitions right.
And they feel like in year two, they're a little less consistent than we were hoping for.
The only thing I would disagree on is, if you're the Bears, do not look at,
head to Detroit, forget about Green Bay.
What do we got this week? We got Washington.
And within the last 10 minutes, they just announced
Jane Daniels is not practicing
today. We'll see if he can go
Friday. And then Ian Rappaport,
NFL network, who we know is kind of plugged
in, says it's trending toward
Marriota starting this weekend.
So now you get the Bears against
the commanders. You got to win this game.
Go to get to 5 and 2 beating a backup quarterback
and then the rest will sort
itself out. Even if they go 7 and 2
what's going to happen, people in Chicago are going to go
Happy days are here again.
At Detroit, at many, at Greenback.
Well, let's get to seven and two.
Let's get the seven and two, coward.
Come on.
I like the Bears.
I just...
Six and three, I would take today.
If you gave me an opposite.
Oh, I would take six and six.
At Arizona.
99% of fans would take six and three in a heartbeat.
Not Chiefs fans.
That's not good enough.
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