The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Is it enough for the Lakers?

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox in for Colin   The Lakers bring in Deandre Ayton, but is it enough to keep LeBron in LA? The Steelers are underdogs going into the season, but trading TJ Watt could change things. Clayton Kershaw reaches 3,000 K's, the US Men's National team advances to the World Cup, bottom of the dog pile and much more!   #2prosSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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On the herd What up sticks Good morning Well Good afternoon Good noon to some people Yeah it's very interesting Good morning to you

Good morning to everyone out here It is very interesting, seeing the light of day, seeing actual human beings walking by the studio, seeing traffic. Having energy running through your body because you're fully awake. I don't even need this coffee. That's just a prop. I mean, for certain. Damn. I've already had two cups before I left the house.

And sleep. So, first off, I want to say congratulations. Clayton Kershaw, 3,000 strikeouts. It was quite the scene at Dodgers Stadium. Yeah, no kidding. A lot of throwing. Lots of scenes last night at Dodger Stadium. Clayton Kirshah gets strikeout 3,000 against the White Sox.

The Dodgers were trailing. He did not look great. Probably the worst he's looked since he's come back from the injury and the rehab and all that. But nonetheless, it was about the moment in the career of Clayton Kirschaw. He gets strikeout number 3,000. And then they go on to walk it off in the ninth because Freddie Freeman does it again. So it was quite the scene there for the L.A. Dodgers at Dodgers. Dodger Stadium. Dodger fans were thrilled.

Now, from one fan base and one organization that is legitimate championship contenders and defending world champions to another team in town that is not. Oh, geez. Ladies and gentlemen, the Los Angeles Lakers. Oh, yeah. Take your pick. Yeah. Yeah.

Hey. Talk about different balls in the air, which one you want to catch. There's still some up in the air You chose to catch the Lakers one. You want to talk about a wild turn of events. It's like the movie when Steven Seagal was in a coma and he wakes up after eight years and he's like, what the hell happened?

How did everything change? I woke up this morning and all of a sudden I rubbed my eyes and I'm looking around going, oh, so DeAndre Aiton's the lynchpin to a championship contender. Okay, I had no idea. This is news to me.

Is it? But apparently... He is. I ain't gonna lie. I'm in on that. DeAndre Aden? Yeah, I'm in on that. Which of the 40 games, or better yet,

which of the 42 games he missed last year was your favorite? Because I don't know. I kind of like the... This whole thing is bananas. Bang, bang! It came out guns of blazes. It is bananas. But apparently...

You know, that stuff is... Like, you can't measure the amount of games missed anymore. in the NBA. The idea of a disgruntled player, an unhappy organization, the politics that play a part in missing games as a pro-MBA player is very real. So I don't look at the amount of games that he missed last year and say he can't be the guy that we've seen him be when he was in Phoenix. I say I look at a guy that was in a situation that didn't work. out for him and didn't work out for the organization and now he's going somewhere else and

that's probably why you didn't see a lot of him this past season. The problem I have with this is that this is the third stop now for DeAndre Aidan. He was in Phoenix. He goes to Portland. Now he's with the Lakers. A lot of people don't like Portland though. Oh, I listen, I hear you. You know what I mean? Like I'm not going to hold Portland against. Sorry Portland, but I'm just not going to hold Portland against Aiden. I'm not. Now, the reason why I would say that there should be cause for concern is that there was reported issues in Phoenix, you know, work ethic, tardiness, all the things that come along with it, attitude.

Who are you talking about Luca or you talking about DeAndre? I'm talking about DeAndre. Oh, okay. Luca's already been fat-shamed enough. We're not going to go in that direction on this show. I mean, I was just making sure that we understood that maybe the Lakers are feeling like they're well-versed in those type of guys. Nico Harrison was like Joe Clark.

Dang. Joe Clark in the movie talking to that kid who's overweight. He saw some sloppily sloppy boy. Nico Harrison. You smoke crack, don't you? Nico Harrison, baby. We're going and jump. Challenging Luca to jump off the building.

You're sloppily sloppy boy. You want to jump? No. No, I want to play for the Lakers. I'm sorry. I want to play for the Lakers. I don't want to do it anymore. I don't want to die.

So Nico Harrison was busy fat-shaming Luke. DeAndre was in Portland, and according to it. And he's not fat. He just don't work hard, I guess. You're broke crack, don't you? Thank you. Nico Harrison live on the top of a building, ready to throw Luca off. That is not how Luca's losing away, people.

That is not what we're insinuating. So, D'Ondra Aiton, according to an article from the New York Times, that he, their veterans were kind of fed up with him. He would show late, he would miss Team Plains or be tardy to team planes. Just like the, just your typical, not really all that invested. Some people kind of viewed him as a bit of a clown there. And it did not work. And he was bought out. And so now he's a member of the L.A. Lakers.

Now, I would say this, it's an upgrade. Right. It is an upgrade at the center position, but it's an upgrade much like sushi at a liquor store when you're hungry. It's food. I just don't know if that's the kind of food you want, or if that's the kind of food that you would go, that's exactly what's going to get me through the rest of my day. I'm just skeptical. I still look at this team and I go, they are at best, fourth, fifth in the conference, and considering the upgrade Houston, what OKC just did.

You've got Denver coming back. Minnesota you think will take a next step. I just, I don't know how this does anything different for the Lakers next year. I think it does if the leadership quality is there for DeAndre Aiden and the scenarios that you are mentioning. I don't feel as though a can't get right because those are can't get right actions. If you feel as though coming into the scenario, you have a good whole. to understanding through your conversations with Aden that those are things you can manage.

I honestly believe as a player, when DeAndre Aden is playing the game, he can be one of the more elite bigs in the game. And if you were to ask anybody who knows basketball and has paid attention to the Lakers, they've needed a big man. They needed a legitimate big man. And as we continue down this road,

of preparing for post-Lebron James era in L.A., I think this is a good move. Now, let me add this to it, because I got this from my guy Cuffs to Legend, by the way, some do show. What up, Cubs? What up? What up? On Cuffs? And he did call DeAndre Aiden going to the Lakers, by the way, before it happened in previous shows.

And this is the latest that he's come up with. and I think that this is pretty spot on and on par for what could possibly take place with everybody getting what they want. I think the Lakers want to move on from LeBron James. I think LeBron James is okay with moving on from the Lakers if it serves his purpose, which is one, he's trying to get another championship or two to try to catch up with MJ and Kobe.

and three to make sure that his son's career isn't cut short. What would be the best solution to that? Well, let's talk about it. If you put all of the elements together and you say, okay, what makes this work for LeBron James in this scenario, it would be most likely to go to a organization that still would approve of having him, would embrace having him, would support having him, which would lead to possibly him being able to package that up

with bringing his son with him. There's the possibility of that. Unless within the buyout or the leaving of L.A., they would make sure they take care of Brony James in the event that he were to leave here, those two elements, right? But it would also be for him to go to a place where A, has a chance to wear in the championship,

be with somebody that he's familiar with. If the New York Knicks hire Brown, right? If they hire Mike Brown, there is a relationship of respect and admiration between LeBron James and Mike Brown. They have history together. They go back to when LeBron James first time in Cleveland, he was with them.

They had a ton of great success. Mike Brown is a very well-respected coach. If he were indeed, and in fact, the coach that ended up being named the head coach of the New York Knickerbockers, is there a possibility as close as that New York Knicks team is

to competing for an NBA title? Would that be the move? Mike Brown falls in the place. Boom, first domino falls down. Is LeBron James the next domino in that series of dominoes to fall? Does he end up in New York? Great market.

He goes from one. one major media market to the other major, the two bohemists. He goes to the other one. And we know that LeBron James has made a career of going to organizations that are close to winning championships or have already won one. This Knicks team is close to a championship. It would be a familiar person in Brown. He would be able to integrate and get in there in a easy manner, a less stressful manner, and make a difference for a team that was probably a LeBron James away

from being able to make it at least to the championship round. Well, it gets them closer for sure because the Eastern Conference is wide open. Well, there you go. It's wide open because of all the injuries. And look, I've said it before on Fox Sports Radio. I believe Cleveland's in an advantageous spot because for a team that's run into injury bad luck the past couple of years, everybody else ran into it this year.

and maybe Cleveland just by default becomes the healthiest team. And if Mike Brown does, you know, is finalized and that's the reports we're hearing that he's going to be the coach of the Knicks, yeah, if you're LeBron, and this is all about you getting to another NBA finals to have another shot,

the easier path would be the East, by far. Because in the Western Conference, it ain't happening right now. Doesn't that bring you back to the conversation? It was just out there. Everybody was throwing this out there, ring chasing, ring chasing culture, ring chasing culture

as if LeBron James was the creator of ring chasing culture. He's not, by the way. I don't think people should try to downgrade him that way. But ring chasing culture if LeBron James were to leave and to go to a team like the New York Knicks,

does this now begin to be the idea of you couldn't get it done in Cleveland so you had to go to Miami. You eventually got it done in Miami and then you go back and then you get it in Cleveland. Then you can't get it done in Cleveland anymore.

So now you go and build a super team and you are able to get a bubble, a bubble championship in L.A. L.A. seems to have run its course. Now, if you go to New York looking at what they got in Brunson, looking at what they got in, if they're going to keep towns, which you would assume that they're going to keep Carl Anthony Towns, you go join a team that actually is set and built to make a run for the championship. What does this do to LeBron James legacy?

Because in all due respect, LeBron James has had to go chase the rings elsewhere. It has never been bringing the rings to him. And when you look at Kobe, they brought the rings to Kobe. when you look at MJ they brought the rings to MJ they didn't go somewhere else to go get it done with somebody else's main players and you integrated and maybe became the main player they didn't do that with Steph Curry didn't do that

the rings have come to where they are LeBron James is widely considered arguably the greatest basketball player of all time and yet maybe be the only one in the category of having to go chase the rings elsewhere. First

I think it's pretty disrespectful to list off the accomplishments of LeBron James and not include the in-season title. Oh, my bet. That's rude. My bet. And enter that champions of the in-season tournament. Now, I've heard

from people that the ring he got in the bubble wasn't actually a ring, it was a gold COVID mask. Again, I don't know and I'm not trying to spread any negatives. Yeah, I'm not trying to spread any sort of negativity out there. But I just think he is what he is at this point. And I don't think that there's anything that he could do to either jump above Jordan or move off anybody else's list. Like you feel about LeBron, how you feel about him. And if this is all about, I want to go

chase another championship, it's going to come down to him looking at the landscape of the Western Conference and trying to figure out, is that the best way to do it? Me personally, I don't think it is. I think there's way too many obstacles in the way and way too many better teams. I think if he's going to do it, it's going to be out east. I just don't know, depending on what they're going to ask in return, if the Knicks look at that and go, is it really worth one year, potentially of LeBron? And everything that comes along with it. He took his option. He took his option and he's getting older. What exactly are you going to ask for in trying to get a hold of LeBron James.

And if that value is so high that it is a scoff at it and turn and walk away from it, then why are you getting rid of them? If his value to you is still that high, why are you getting rid of him? Look, I think if you're the Lakers and you're planning on moving on from him after a year, just do it now. Do it now. Yeah, like I'm with you. And make it doable. I'm with you. Don't try to rob the whole hen house if you know your intentions are to get him out of there.

If you want to get him out, then make it a doable situation, make it a doable deal. And for what it's worth, if you felt like you got dup by bringing in his child, you could get a two-for-oneer. Yo daddy did this. Now you got to go right along with him. What's about a way? How do you handle that? Like if Bronny James has to go because his daddy left, how will the media handle that?

That's a whole other conversation in itself. God, you would find out a lot about LeBron James' reputation in town if they traded him, and then immediately after trading him, they made Brony the custodian. Like that would be, you'd find a hell of a lot about.

Wasn't looking for that plot twist, but that was a hell of a twist right there. All of a sudden, they're like, hey, here's a mop and a bucket. He could say he's an employee of the L.A. Lakers. I mean, I mean, all the perks. If he gets to sit on the bench, but he's cleaning toilets and cleaning floors during the week, making sure there's no dust on the floor for practice, he's still considered to be an employee of the L.A. Lakers.

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and how it nearly got a little bit interesting. That'll be yours here again, about 20 minutes from now here on Fox Sports Radio. So Andrew Philiponi, who's a radio host in Pittsburgh, he recently pointed out these Steelers being underdogs in 11 of 17

games this upcoming season. So here are the games because it's a short list and it won't be, it won't take as long. Here are the games that they are favorite in. Week 1 at the Jets, week 2 versus the Seahawks, week 6 versus the Browns, week 9 versus the Colts,

week 15 versus the Dolphins, and week 17 at the Browns. sidebar thank you to the Cleveland Browns for being in the same division as the Steelers because you will guarantee that they won't finish last but the Steelers being going into the season

with all this hoopla and all this discussion when you start to take a look back and we've talked about it on our show two pros and a cup of Joe when you start to take a look back and you look at what the NFL presented them from a

schedule standpoint they're up against it this year. They do not have an easy schedule. It is difficult, which is why the win total had been set at eight and a half for Pittsburgh. And if you're an eight or a nine win team in the AFC, you're probably not going to make the playoffs in that conference.

So for all the discussion about all the pieces they've added, it still feels like Pittsburgh's up against it going into next year, based on the schedule. Listen, I've made my points on this. known as this has continued to unfold. They have been active this offseason and they have spent money, but people make the point of saying that Pittsburgh spends their money on defense. And that's true.

It's proven through the information that is set forth and put out there. But they do look to be trying to improve their offense. Now, I don't know that I'm a believer in their back-to-back committee that's in their running back room right now. but maybe it works out for them based on what they see. In terms of their quarterback position, it's obviously a tremendous risk. It's a big move to bring in Aaron Rogers,

and it's probably a short-lived move. But what does that short-lived acquisition? What are the results of that? So you guys are, you know, the bettors out there or the prognosticators in betting are basically saying that Aaron Rogers is washed. That is basically, in essence, what they're saying. Damn.

I mean, what else does that insinuate? What is that insinuate? I just love that term, washed. Cleaned in a mother lover. So my whole thing is, what can Pittsburgh do? Pittsburgh, and this creates an interesting conversation, Jonas, because I want to throw it out at you and see how you feel about it

and try to make some sense of it. They have a pretty decent defense. Their defense is not bad. If they were to lose T.J. Watt, we've had the conversation. I don't think it can happen. It shouldn't be a conversation. But with some of the recent things I've heard swirling around rumor-wise, it's worth the conversation.

If you were to get rid of T.J. Watt, because you felt as though giving him a long-term contract doesn't serve the Pittsburgh Steelers in a way where, one, you're going to get the amount of production that you want for the amount of time that you wanted for. And two, it may make it difficult to trade him if you wait and give him a new contract and try to trade him under the new contract that he has. If right now you feel like this is the best time to unload T.J. Watt because it's that year, early before it's a year too late type of approach,

then what would you do to justify that trade? You would have to bring in someone who makes your team unequivocally better and almost justifies it. One, I do not believe you can bring in a swapout. It can't be a defender. It just can't. You cannot get rid of T.J. Y and bring in another defender

and hope that that's going to work out. There's no one out there that exists and you can't do it. But what if you were to do it on the offensive side of the ball? And you did a trait, you orchestrated a trait with, say, rumor has it with the Washington commanders. With the Washington commanders, you get a couple nice draft picks that would give you the ability to start to build towards the future, because now you're building draft stock and draft capital,

But then you bring in Terry McLaren. If you add Terry McLaren to now the ad of Janu, now the addition of D.K. Metcalfe. And you have Terry McLorn on that offensive side of the ball. I would say all that's left is do you have a running back and can your offensive line hold up? If your offensive line, if you're confident that your offensive line can hold up and you get someone that can produce at an above average level.

They don't have to be a superstar. Even if it's by committee, do you have a backfield that is conducive to giving you the hard yards that Pittsburgh has always needed to have to win into the AFC North? Does that make it a more legitimized move forward? Does that actually solidify an offseason that where you say the Steelers are always defensively heavy. You just added Jalen Ramsey.

If you were to lose T.J. Watt, they are going to have guys. It has happened before. When Kevin Green and Greg Lloyd left, people thought that it was going to be hard to replace them. They replaced them. When Joey Porter and Jason Gilden left, as hard as it may seem and sound, they were replaced. When these guys have left, when Chad Brown and James Harrison have left,

they have been replaced. Do you look at it from the historical standpoint of who you've replaced in the success you've had at that very position that T.J. Watt is at? And do you make a move that says, we'll put a younger guy in here? He's not a well-known guy. It's probably the safer move, even though you're going to get spanked by the media. You're going to get spanked by the fan base. But is it a smart, legitimate, prudent move to unload T.J. Watt now before it's a year too late? Add a guy, a weapon in Terry McLaurin, which would be an amazing addition to that offense.

In fact, you would have no excuses if you're Aaron Rogers or an offensive coordinator on how to distribute the ball. You got John who you got a friar move. You got a double tight end set. You have so many, so many groupings that you could go out there in situational football and be in favor, like in a very, very, favorable situation, does this make sense to you to take that approach? I'm not doing it. Because, and look, we've talked about this before. I ain't matter.

I think not getting a deal done with T.J. Watt and moving on from him undoes all the good you did this off-season. And we made this point on our show. If you were to get rid of T.J. Watt, isn't that counter to everything that you've been trying to do this off-season? Not if you bring it. a guy that makes Aaron Rogers that much more dangerous. I'm sorry, I just got to say it.

And as a defender, as a former defensive player, it pains me to have to say it. It really does. But if I can improve and upgrade my offense to that capacity, that's this, that is the Washington commander's

number one receiver. That's their number one target. If you were to bring in another one with D.K. Metcav, who is a one, which by the way, I made the point, I made the discussion point, and I stand on it. It's a hill I'm going to put my ten toes down and stand on it. I don't think that D.K. Metcalfe was an upgrade from George Pickens. I do not.

I think that they have the same type of character traits. I think that they could potentially, he could potentially be an issue, the same exact way, Pickens was an issue. And I don't, I didn't feel as though, I felt like that. That's a swapper. That's a one-offer. Like, it's a swap, it's a push. You didn't get better, but you didn't get worse.

You add Terry McLorn, who is a known character guy, high-character guy, high-achievement guy, understands the gang, good team guy. And, oh, by the way, he's an Ohio stater. So he understands the area. There's the connection with the quarterback that just got drafted from Ohio State. I don't think that it would be a bad move. I think it's a justifiable move if you're upgrading your offense, even if

it was as significant a downgrade by letting T.J. Watt go. In the long run, you may look at him and be like, damn, T.J. Watt didn't have the greatest of years that next year. Dang, he never really got back to where he was supposed to get to. Maybe distillers pulled the trigger

at the right time. It could possibly work in their favor, especially if you come out in your offense is cooking in the AFC North. Look, I love Terry McLaren. I think he's one of the more underrated players in the league. I just, to sacrifice what you would lose on defense with T.J. Watt to add Terry McClorn, I don't think it's worth it. Especially if Rogers is only going to be here for a year, do you really want to part with a cornerstone of the franchise?

Again, you're always going to be faced with those hard decisions. and our guy Bill Belichick was one of the best and greatest at doing it, getting rid of a guy that was a beloved guy, was a part of the fabric and of, you know, the makeup of what the community represented. T.J. Watt has done a fine job of building that type of, you know, goodwill. He's banked a lot of goodwill. But that's still the business.

of football. It's still the business of pro sport. And the business of pro sports says put more points on the board. We want to have a defense that can keep points off of the board so that we can put more up. But the name of the game, the rule changes, everything is geared towards making sure that the game is a more offensively driven and stimulated game. And if I have to lose a major, major key and a piece to our team on the defense side of the ball, I at least want to do it knowing that I improved and I upgraded our ability to be able to score touchdowns. And Terry McLaurin with this group of guys that they've brought in, I think they're in a really, really advantageous position if they were to make that type of a move.

So as we mentioned, their underdogs in 11 of 17 games are the Pittsburgh Steelers going into next year. Does Terry McLaurin coming in and losing T.J. Watt, does that take that up or take it down? I would say that it takes it up. I want T.J. Watt. It takes, wait, wait, wait. If you were to lose T.J. Watt takes it up as in you're going to lose more games? Yeah.

No, if I were to take Terry McLauron over T.J. Watt, yeah, you're going to lose more games. You're going to lose more games. Well, then you don't do it. If you're to Pittsburgh Steelers and you're looking at it from that perspective, then you don't do it. Yeah, I just, I look, if I'm Pittsburgh and I know what the odds are going into the season, but the reality is the NFL, there's injuries, there's, you know, a couple of misplays here or there and teams that you expect to be good.

It's why there's so much turnover in the postseason for the most part in the NFL more so than either sports because a couple of games here or there, like it's a fine line between being 7 and 10 and 10 and 7. Like it's a fine line. There's a couple of moments here that could be make or break. So if you're Pittsburgh, you probably look at this and go,

yeah, so we're only favored in six games going into this season if we're able to maintain and keep T.J. Watt and get him done and everybody's happy on that side. Which is not a glowing endorsement of T.J. Watt. But if you're Pittsburgh and you go, at least, I would feel better about my chances going into next year with T.J. Watt as opposed to no T.J. Watt add Terry McLaren. I would feel better about it. I think you're looking at it, you're looking at it from a player to player perspective. I think you've got to pull yourself out of looking at it

from the Terry McLaurin to T.J. Watt perspective. It would be better to say T. J. Watt and Aaron Rogers. Look at it from that perspective. It's the T.J. Watt versus Aaron Rogers. Because if you're adding Terry McLaurin, that means you're giving another weapon to the person that you believe can

come in and win you more games. Right now, if they're being projected, because I just said, don't do it if you think you're going to only win less games. But if you're projecting us to only win six games, why not take a chance? If we're only going to be six games good with T.J. Watt, why not take a chance?

so on. We have Aaron Rogers at least for one season. If I have Aaron Rogers and basically what they're saying is they're putting their money down, all their money at the center of the table saying that we're going to get this one good year with Aaron Rogers and you can add another weapon of that caliber to his offense. I don't care who it is on that defensive side of the ball. If that gets a trade done where we can add that type of weapon to our offense, let's go. Does it hurt your heart as a Pittsburgh guy and a defensive guy to be saying this? Yeah, because it seems so chaotic. You're not going to be allowed to Permanis

ever again. Well, yes, because I'm a Pittsburgher and I keep it real. And because you got a sandwich there. 4-1-2 runs through these veins by God, and that ain't going change. I'm in the Pittsburgh Hall of Fame. Sports Hall of Fame, baby. What is your Permanati sandwich? What is it? The Big Fish. Yeah, if you go to the Permani's in State College. You can see LeVar Erington up on the wall. There's a drawing of LeVar up on the wall. They put the historical sports figures of the area on the wall. I happen to make the wall with some pretty special people. You can see my face on a urinal cake, I believe, if you go there.

But the big fish is the same thing. I thought it was on the mat on the floor. I thought it was the name of the company, but it was actually you. I've been here. Bang. Yeah, look, the Terry McLaurin situation, we can catch up with Albert Breer next hour and see if he knows any of the latest on that. It just sounds intriguing, right? Yeah. At the least, the rumor, and I hope it happens. I've heard the rumors circulating around, and it was just worth having the conversation,

because to me, if you're going to put your, because basically in essence, this is Aaron Rogers' career. Like, he's going to finish up. He's going to wrap it up here in Pittsburgh. You have Mike Tomlin, who could basically, you know, this could be it for him. You have, what's the name of the GM? what's his name? Omar Khan.

This could be the end of his career. Damn. I mean, in Pittsburgh, it could be the, it could cost a lot of people their jobs if this doesn't work. If the stakes are this high, if the stakes are this high, you've made this many decisions and this many moves to try to make your team better, are you telling me in a decision and a movement in an off-season where we could possibly save our jobs and put us in a position to build our team for the future by creating drag capital that you would not sacrifice a player

even of the caliber of T.J. Watt, you would not sacrifice him for that. It's just, it's one of them hard questions. It's what you get the big dollars for, but it's worth discussing because I'm giving Aaron Rogers as many weapons as I possibly can. And adding Terry McLaurin and some, some, some strong draft capital with doing that, it just seems like it might be the right decision to make. It is The Herd here, Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Erington, Jonas Knox, in for Colin. Coming up next in the Herdline News,

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Come on. Big night in L.A. milestone moment for Clayton Kershaw, just the 20th pitcher in league history to record 3,000 career strikeouts, and here it was on AM 570. One two pitch. Strike three cold. There it is. He got him with a slayer.

thousand for Clayton Kershaw history at Dodgers Stadium. Obviously, Kershaw hasn't quite been the same in several seasons, but great to see him finally achieve that greatness at home in front of the Dodger Faithful at Chavez Revees. He was getting lit up early. It did not look good. It didn't look like he was going to make it through there, but he pulled it off. Because Dave Roberts, I don't want to say gambles the right word,

especially in today's sports climate, but Dave Roberts, he pulled him after 69 pitches in Colorado because he wanted to set it up, or yeah, Colorado, because he wanted to set it up to where he could do it at home in front of the crowd, and it wasn't until his last inning, last pitch

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We're going to say this one's for you and the in-laws. O'O-oh. The U.S. men's national team captured a 2-1 win over Guatemala to advance to the Gold Cup final. Is that right? Taking place on Sunday against Mexico. Yeah, this is, of course, the last major competitive tournament for the U.S. as they prepare for the World Cup next summer.

Now, look. Against Guatemala. I will cut. Okay. So this sets up. the Mexico U.S. final again, correct? All right. Now, they do not like

each other. Nope. There's been... No, I mean, maybe the stakes are a tad bit higher than here. There's been reports of bags of urine being thrown on the field. No. It gets a little spicy. I have a strict policy.

Okay. Root against whoever the in-laws are rooting for. Okay. So go USA. and I just hope that I'm in a crowd, a room full of the in-laws to where I can go ahead and pull back a car. Well, just a crowd with enough people.

Because I was at, I read this, I was at a Mexican restaurant. I was at a Mexican restaurant. And they were playing the Netherlands in the World Cup back in, I think it was 2012. And I remember my wife, then girlfriend at the time. And we were there and it was, I mean, there was guys sitting there with the Mexican flag draped around them.

And I didn't have a rooting interest at all. We're just watching. And I looked around. I was like, oh, let me go and stir this up. So I started live betting on the Netherlands. And I didn't think they had any shot at winning.

Mexico gave up a goal with like two minutes left and then lost it in extra time. And I looked around and everybody was just mortified. And I thought it was hilarious. I'm sorry. I grew up a Cubs fan. I got the right. You got to be a tie, be careful doing that with this one.

That's, you just got to be a tabby, careful, right now. I mean, I'm just saying, you won't be politically correct. No, well, look, they, I mean, am I wrong for this? Am I wrong for this? No, listen, there's, I guess if people want to take it that direction, they can. I'm looking at it from a soccer standpoint. Okay. You know, root against the opposite team.

We've taught the best before. One of the great joys in a man's life is when you can root against your buddy's team. Oh, yeah. It's just a wonderful. wonderful moment. Some of the best fights in hubs after. You don't even care about the other team. You just want your buddy's team to lose.

One of my best friends has always been a Kings fan. And when they were up to O on the Warriors a couple years ago to finally win a playoff series for the first time and forever, and then they ended up losing to the Warriors, it was such a great feeling for us. It makes us sick. It's a Lakers fan. It just, but there's something about it. You can't explain it.

And she'll ask me all the time, like, why do you just root against the other team when you know we're all rooting for Mexico or whoever? And I was like, because that's what I do. That's what guys do. There you go. It's what we do. I mean, nobody wants to be at the bottom of the pile. So if you can somehow find someone else to drag down and throw them underneath, you're like, that's exactly where we want to be headed. That is correct.

You do not want to know what happens at the bottom. bottom of the pal-ups. What happens? All kinds of screaming, hollering, just very inappropriate things happen at the bottom of the pile. You don't want to be in the bottom of the pile. Poking and prodding? No, it's more like grabbing and twisting.

Pinching and pulling. Pinching and pulling. It doesn't. Yeah. No, no, let's go to break. I don't want to go any deeper into this. Oh, gosh, boss. Why, is that trial over?

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