The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Jerry Jones at Cowboys camp

Episode Date: July 28, 2025

Danny Parkins fills in for Colin   Is LeBron James is in the news again. Does he want to Denver? Thoughts on the Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones not paying Micah Parsons yet Josh Allen is one of the best QBs in the NFL, but how bad does he need to win a Super Bowl?     See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It is the herd. No Colin Cowherd. I am Danny Parkins from FS1's First Things First, soon to be expanded. First things first. It's a thrill to be out here in Los Angeles and for the legend that is Colin Coward. We got a great show for you today on this Monday. My guy, Cole Komet, from the Bears, will join us in about 30 minutes to explain why everyone is completely correct to panic about every

interception around Caleb Williams, though I think Cole might have a different take on that. Bruce Feldman joins the show, my new teammate at first things first, Chris Broussard, later on, the bear, tons of football because we made it. There's a football game this week, kind of, in the Hall of Fame game. But we've got a lot of NFL to get to over the course of today's show. But somehow, some way, even though it is game week in the end. NFL, LeBron James still finds himself in the center of the news because I did not expect to land in Los Angeles to an Instagram post from a guy I had never heard of who was Nikola Yokic's agent

on a yacht in France with LeBron James and Maverick Carter. I was like, oh, okay, LeBron, world traveler. Who among us hasn't been on a yacht in the south of France, the greatest offensive player in 20 years as agent, right? I mean, it's a thing that could happen to anybody. And I'm like, that's nice. They bumped into each other while vacationing, having some fine wine. And then you read the caption on Nicola Yoko's agent's Instagram post. The summer of 2025 is the perfect time to make big plans for the fall of 2026.

summer of 2025, that's now, perfect time to make big plans for the fall of 2026. Yeah, that's going to have some reverberations around the NBA. Because everybody seems to be convinced because the Lakers invited Luca to dinner and didn't invite him because they are not willing to trade, the last first round pick that they control to go out and make a bigger move for this, offseason to try to be all in, quote unquote, to win now with LeBron, that LeBron is somehow unhappy with the Lakers. And LeBron, by the way, has done some things to fan fuel to that flames because I like to say about LeBron, we're similar in age.

We're elder millennials. We grew up with the Internet. We understand what it's like, oh, I'm going to unfollow my employer. I'm going to tweak this thing. I'm going to troll a little bit. LeBron and his camp is very good at controlling the message. and nothing that they do is without intent. And he drives the 24-7 sports talk industrial complex

more than any modern athlete, arguably more than any athlete ever. So he's vacationing, he's on a yacht, this guy puts out a post, and now it becomes a story. But I don't think LeBron is leaving L.A., and it is for no better reason than, say it at L. loud, LeBron James Denver Nugget. I just don't believe it. I have a very hard time believing the guy who is now on his third franchise, who is

delivered L.A. a championship, who just got Luca Dachach as a teammate, who they drafted his son, he's building his forever home out here, he has all of his business ventures out here. I have a hard time believing on that yacht they were talking about, LeBron James going to Denver. and for the life of me, I have struggled with understanding why we talk about Yokic

and his future in Denver so different than we talk about Janice and his future in Milwaukee. Again, this was Joker's agent talking about big plans for next summer. Well, Yokic is under contract for this year

and he's under contract for next year, but then he's got a player option the year after that. And it's not that long ago when Josh Cronkey, the owner of the Nuggets, for some unknown reason, floated the idea

of trading Joker? You remember? For us, as an organization, going into that second apron is not necessarily something that we're scared of. I think that there are rules around it that we needed to be very careful of

with our injury history. The wrong person gets injured and very quickly you're into a scenario where that I need to be, and everyone have to contemplate. And that's trading number 15. Odd choice. I think we could all agree to unprompted bring up trading,

Nicola Yokic. But Janus can't do anything without a hundred headlines and hot take people being like, Janus has to leave Milwaukee. When Janus was an international pick to a small market team, who's won an MVP, and delivered a championship,

and has signed multiple extensions to stay. with the team that drafted him. Nicoliochich has won multiple MVP, has won championship, was a late round, you know, second round pick, international player, drafted by a small market team. There are way more similarities to Janus and Yokic, but no one ever talks about Yokic being unhappy in Denver.

What if Yokic's agent is making big plans for next year when, for all intents and purposes, it is an expiring contract for Yokic because the year after is a player option for Yokic to leave Denver to go to Los Angeles to play with his longtime friend, Luca Dantcich. That feels to me way more likely what the big plans could be than LeBron James being a Denver Nugget for one year. I have no idea how many more years LeBron James is playing.

We say Father Time is undefeated. LeBron James is trying to shatter expectations on that cliche. But the say it out loud test tells me it is more likely that they're just trolling, frankly. But that if I had to say, Yokeach in L.A., and they figure out a way to make that work, or LeBron just straight signs in Denver for a year, which, granted, is simpler, given LeBron is not under contract beyond this year, as we all know, I'll still take the more difficult path and believe that it's much more likely

that LeBron is figuring out a way to team up with Yokic, pair him with Luca, make one more run at a championship two years from now, and then sail off into the sunsets, leaving the Lakers set up to be successful after him and having that be a part of his Lakers' legacy. I won you the title in the bubble.

Maybe I won you a second title, and oh yeah, by the way, I set you up to have the best duo in the NBA going forward with Luca and the Joker. So we don't know where Yokitur LeBron's going. I think I got a pretty good idea how this next story is going to end, but it still doesn't change any of the drama. Michael Parsons is going to stay in Dallas.

But it's lovely to see that there's 31 teams in the NFL, and then there's just a television producer. Because as a content guy who loves the NFL year round, I feel like all of us. Everyone who sits behind a microphone should have to write a handwritten thank you letter to Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys because love them or hate them,

we all have an opinion of how they do business and why they are just still so relevant and compelling despite it being 30 years without a championship. And so over the weekend, Micah Parsons, who doesn't have a contract, apparently has a little back tightness, but is there at training camp, just not really participating.

Jerry Jones, because for some reason, the owner of the team needs to face the fans at training camp with a bunch of cheerleaders behind him, had to come out and say whatever he was saying about the new and improved team, and he was greeted with chance of pay Micah, pay Micah. And then he talked to the media afterwards,

and he was like, well, the chance for paying CD were louder last year, and, you know, we paid Mikea, pay Micah. Like, we paid Dak Prescott and then he got hurt. He can't help himself because this is what he does. And Dak Prescott last year said, you know, I just kind of stopped listening to Jerry, which is a bold thing for a quarterback to say about the guy who signs his check. But that was last year. C.D. Lamb, just last week, when talking about Micah Parsons and these contract negotiations

that are playing out as publicly as any contract negotiations in the NFL, he was like, yeah, we just don't play in those waters with the media. Jerry Jones. Obviously playing this media game with Jerry is not the best, it's not fun, is not recommended. But as for Micah, he knows what he brings to this table. Honestly, for this team, for himself, and he should get what he's deserved, and I'm not indulging in any other craziness that they got going, but I do want Micah to get paid soon. And he will get paid soon. We all know how this ends. This is just noise. Last year, Nick Bosa got paid, and then Max Crosby got paid.

And for a moment in time, oh my God, Miles Garrett was going to be traded from the Cleveland Browns. He wrote a nice letter and everything. And then Miles Garrett became the highest paid non-quarterback in football, and he wants to be a Brown for life. And for a while, I mean, I'm old enough to remember three weeks ago when T.J. Watt was really unhappy with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, man, they were far apart. They weren't going to get it done. and then, voila, it's amazing what $41 million per year to rush the quarterback and lose wildcard weekend can do to a guy's mood.

And all of a sudden, T.J. Watt, back with the Steelers, thrilled. Micah Parsons will be a Dallas Cowboy. He will get another contract. He will top T.J. Watts, 41 million per year. My guess is, by a decent amount, actually, just given the age difference, I don't think it's going to be 41.2 or 42 minutes. He'll probably try to get to. get to $44, $45 million a year, put some distance between him and the other pass rushers.

And I'm sure that's the sticking point in the negotiations right now. But I think we would be, call it a media literacy test here. I think we would all be served to actually pay attention to Jerry Jones. And I know, some bold strategy. And C.D. Lamb and Dak Prescott have said they're trying to do different things, but I don't play quarterback for the Cowboys. Jerry Jones saw how this country was enamored with the last dance. And he said, I got to get me one of those.

And he struck a deal with Netflix to produce a multi-part story of the Cowboys. And it's coming soon and we'll see what America's appetite is for a long-form documentary on America's team. it will not be as popular as the last dance because we're not in the middle of a pandemic. But they were popular in the 90s, the Bulls were popular in the 90s, I'm sure it will do quite well. But when the trailer came out, there was a little snippet from Jerry Jones that I actually was like, ah, there it is, thank you. This is a soap opera 365 days a year. That is his business model.

that is why they're not in the biggest market, but they're the most valuable franchise. They don't have the most wins or the most Super Bowls, but they're the most valuable, most talked about franchise. He believes, and frankly, has been proven right, that the soap opera is what sells.

He's the owner, but he's also the general manager, but they absolutely have a general manager in Will McLeigh, Nobody believes that Jerry Jones is scouring senior bowl tape, but he wants to call himself the general manager. No owner in the NFL calls into local radio every week. No other owner in the NFL does a post-game press conference every week. They played it out with Dak Prescott. They played it out with C.D. Lamb.

They played it out with Micah Parsons. What does that do? Back in the day, we would say it filled column inches. Now it fills airtime because then Micah Parsons has a podcast and he weighs in. Cedie Lamb gets asked about it. That makes a news cycle story. The fans chant something at him. That's a news cycle story.

And on and on and on. Jerry Jones is competitive. Jerry Jones wants to win. He just also wants to be the most talked about. You don't hear the room. or the Maras or the McCaskies or anyone else doing it the way that Jerry Jones does. But Jerry Jones' team is worth more money. So he probably looks at it like, this might cost me a few million bucks.

And that stinks for a Cowboys fan who wants to maximize the salary cap. But he's like the column inches and the airtime more than makes up for it because people are talking about the Dallas Cowboys. It's a soap opera 365 days a year. Those are his words, not mine. Again, 31 teams and a television producer. And it's been the highest rated TV show in the NFL for the last 30 years. Coming up next on the herd, the guy who has the most to gain, I would say by far, if you won a Super Bowl,

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for basically the first time in my entire life, as someone who was born in Chicago in 1986. But every year around this time, it's who's going to be the breakout candidate? What's the team that's going to surprise? Who's going to disappoint? Who's under the most pressure? Who's on the hot seat? and there's it's totally open-ended there's a bunch of different ways you can go with any of that stuff right i think for who needs a super bowl win the most whose legacy reputation would benefit from one the most

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on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Spoke a lot to me, and I really appreciate him sharing those words, but, yeah, it's kind of crazy, where you're just kind of coming out here and you're doing everything that you can for a quick enjoyment of it, and then you're on to the next. And it's, again, it's like the MVP awards. Like, I don't look back and think about that night. Like, it happened, it was over with, and I'll never think about it again, to be honest.

There is something that's sad about that, but any high performer would understand it's the journey. It's the process. It's what you go through to get there because that's what actually takes the time. And then when you sink the final put or you hoist the Lombardi trophy at some point that night ends and you just go back. I think it makes a ton of sense what Schaeffler said that it would relate with Josh Allen. But if Josh Allen were to win, like let's just play out the hypothetical. Let's say Josh Allen plays the Chiefs in the playoffs again. And this time he beats them.

And the Bills, who are a slightly better favorite in the AFC than the Chiefs, that's mostly because they play in the AFC East, but still, let's say the Bills won that Super Bowl and Josh Allen had his Super Bowl moment. It was the Super Bowl MVP. All of a sudden, he's like, all right, I've got an MVP, I've got a Super Bowl, I've got a Super Bowl, MVP and I beat Mahomes on the way there. He would still be a distant second to Mahomes, obviously. Multiple MVP's the three rings, the multiple appearances. Obviously, there's nothing that could happen this year that could have Josh Allen passing Patrick Mahomes. But at least

the Manning Brady rivalry could potentially start to creep back into existence because Brady has the way better trophy case, but Peyton Manning was looked at as a worthy adversary. An all-time great, a first ballot hall of famer, a truly worthy number two to Brady's number one. He got to the four Super Bowls, he won a couple of them. They had epic regular season battles. They both were able to beat each other in the postseason, the regular season, the same thing. Now it's Josh has beaten Patrick in the regular season, but now, never in the postseason, and Mahomes has all of the hardware,

when Josh Allen has to look around and he's like, I'm just as good as this guy. He has to believe that, even if you and I don't. Because if he is that close to him, statistically, over a huge sample size for that long, and he's beaten him in the regular season, I have no reason to believe that he doesn't believe that he can get there. And quick aside,

I'm glad that Scotty Sheffler is having his moment here after the open takes the claret jug and he goes to the Happy Gilmore 2 premiere and now Happy Gilmore 2 is out y'all need to relax a little bit. Everyone needs to relax with the hot takes on Happy Gilmore 2. The movie's fine. You go in with low expectations and then it clears them. It was nostalgic. There were cameos.

I won't give anything away, but Shephlers was hilarious. Will Zallatoris was hilarious, John Daly's was funny. You know what you're getting going into an Adam Sandler movie. He's a volume shooter. Can he give you uncut gems and punch drunk love? Yeah, but he also wants to put his family and friends in movies and have a good time and hang out and do some ridiculousness and do some dumb stuff and do some callbacks. It was a movie. It was fine. I'll never watch it again. But this, it was the best thing ever.

It was the worst thing ever. No. It was an Adam Sandler movie in 2025 that hundreds of millions of people somehow will somehow watch it based on the Netflix algorithm. And we'll all keep going on with our lives and you can't recreate the nostalgia of the classic from the 90s. But we grew up.

That's kind of how it works. So I'm glad Scotty Sheffler had his moment, though, because he's seen as this robotic golfer and then he was hilarious in the movie. But Josh Allen, having the ability to come to grips with being second and having that emotional maturity to understand, I'm doing everything I can. I have been great.

I have been great in the regular season. I have been great in the postseason. and no one looks around very good offensive line. They transitioned and gave him a more balanced attack with Cook. They've changed offensive coordinators. They have figured out a way to consistently be great with a great quarterback, not with a super team, not with all pros everywhere, just on the talent and the development and the leadership of that guy,

of Josh Allen, they have figured out a way to put themselves in a position to every single year be competing for a shot at a Lombardi trophy. There is no doubt in my mind that Josh Allen is going to win at some point. He's just got to slay that dragon. And then when he does, I would say the rivalry is on. So I hope we get Bill's chiefs again in the playoffs. And even though I covered the chiefs for years and lived in Kansas City, if Josh Allen got his, I'd feel like he's earned it because he's been the second best to Mahomes for five years at this point. Speaking of the chiefs, there is a access is good. And we see stories all the time now because we're on the internet and we are addicted to football

that we want any little nugget or morsel of information. Anthony Richardson threw an interception. He's going to never figure it out. Caleb Williams threw an interception. Ben Johnson's innovation on offense isn't working. That is just how it works in the information age and how addicted to football we are. And I'm not even saying that there's nothing

that you can take out of reports from training camp. Hey, they put lines on these preseason games. I'm not above gambling on the hall of. Fame game. I think you can have impact on your fantasy drafts. I'm not saying don't pay attention to it. But judging stats or results from practices is insane. Almost none of it matters. But if you want a topic from training camp that does matter, I would give you Josh Simmons being with the ones for the Kansas city chiefs already. Josh Simmons was supposed to be a top 15 pick out of Ohio State. And he broke his pettler tendon and he fell to the chiefs with a 31st pick in the draft.

And anyone who remembers the chief season last year, it was a revolving door, right? Four different guys played left tackle for the chiefs. So much so that they had to shift Joe Thunei. they're all pro-guard, from left guard to left tackle, and now he's on the bears. So it became a situation where then the Eagles, of course, dominated the Chiefs' offensive line, among other things that they dominated in that Super Bowl, and it brought flashbacks to when the Chiefs lost to Tampa in the Super Bowl, when Mahomes' offensive line fell apart.

Last year, this was the worst offensive line of the Mahomes era. He was hit 118 times. He was sacked 41 times, four different left tackles. They lose their left guard to the Bears. The guy they drafted Kingsley Suamatiata, or Suamatiala, excuse me, in the second round two years ago, now he's going to be their left guard. But if Josh Simmons is what Josh Simmons is supposed to be, a top 15 pick on a cheap contract who immediately comes in and plays left tackle,

well now all of a sudden, you've got an elite prospect on a cheap contract, at left tackle. Kingsley goes from left tackle to left guard, second year in the league. Creed Humphrey, center, one of the best centers in the NFL under a long-term contract. Trey Smith, one of the best right guards in the NFL under a long-term contract. And while Joanne Taylor frustrates people, because he gets a few too many penalties, and he does that like a little quick jump off where it feels like he's getting to jump off the line of scrimmage that a bunch of guys do. Joanne Taylor is a fine right tackle, and then they signed more the backup from the

Niners to a healthy contract. All of a sudden, the Chiefs offensive line, if Simmons is legit, goes from huge liability, huge weakness to massive strength. and last season, the Chief's offense was just not impressive. It was not impressive in terms of points scored, obviously. But the big one that anyone could see if you watched the game was like, where did the big plays go? And it wasn't just like Tyree Kill.

He's been gone for a few years. Like, where is, and it's not, did Mahomes forget how to throw the deep ball? No, is it all? just that the opposing defensive coordinators are doing the cover two shell and daring you to beat them underneath? Yeah, that's some of it. They were last in the NFL in touchdowns

that went 20 plus yards. Rishi Rice and Hollywood Brown and Xavier Worthy played a grand total of zero snaps together last year. Hollywood Brown is healthy. We'll see what discipline comes for Rishi Rice off the field.

Xavier Worthy had the great Super Bowl, but those three guys are going to play together this year. and the offensive line should be better. So that means the offense should be better. And those are the types of training camp stories to me that matters. New guy in new place, rookie making an adjustment, healthy or not healthy. When a player throws an interception, well, did the coach before the rep tell him, you've got to go to this route because we've got to work on the timing there.

Was he playing against the ones or the twos? What was going on at the offensive line? We just don't know. We don't know so many of the details of what they were trying to accomplish in a given play or a given drill that reporting on successes or failures or stats or any of that just feels like a fool's errand. But the Kansas City Chiefs got a franchise caliber left-taleigh, tackle with a 31st pick in the draft who we didn't know if he was going to be healthy for week one and he was healthy for day one of training camp. So the guy they signed from the Niners is now

rotating on the right side of the offensive line instead of the left side of the offensive line. Yeah, that's a story. Chief's offense catching up with the Chief's defense, which has carried them the last couple of years, that's a story. Because if Spagnolo gets the defense to be what the defense has been. The offense gets back to being what the offense was. That's why the chiefs aren't afraid of the Broncos or the Chargers or the improved Raiders or anyone else. Because last year, I mean, two years ago, they won the Super Bowl leading the league in drops. Last year, they had the least explosive offense in the NFL, had four different left tackles, and they won 15 games and made it to the Super Bowl. So you want a training camp story that matters? Josh

Simmons getting reps already. Forget reps. He's your first string left tackle for the Kansas City Chiefs. That is a training camp story that matters. We had some tech issues with Cole Comet. We'll try to figure that out. But on the other side, there's a big lesson that Caleb Williams learned from last season, and it's worth getting into. Danny Parkins. This is The Hurt. One more HARD? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart Radio app. Search her to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news.

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But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should. should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?

Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, for people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or where, you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris, every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Genshin win. I mean, she went down in three to Roebuckina, but I'm delighted. Yeah, she's an outsider to win the French for me. and she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now

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It's the enhanced games. call it grotesque, others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.

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It is an organization that is defined by their incompetence at quarterback. They would say, no, we're the monsters in the Midway, and Gail Sayers and Walter Payton and the 85 Bears. And that is all true. But it has permeated so much of bears' lore that it almost became folklore. It's like, well, you can't throw the ball in Chicago. It's too windy, except for Buffalo and Green Bay and plenty of other places that have had worse weather that also have quarterbacks who could throw the ball. It has become this prophecy that the bears will just never have a good quarterback.

And I try to think of myself as a rational guy. and so I'm a Cubs fan. I never believed in Curses. Just like win one before I die. I think I was like, yeah, they're eventually going to win one. And in 2016, they finally did, and it was a great moment, and I hope they do it again this year. I think they got a real shot, by the way.

If Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson doesn't work in Chicago, I might have to start believing in Curses. Because this is everything that should work. wildly talented quarterback prospect. Had a bad offensive line. Upgraded it. Had a bad coach and play caller. Upgraded it.

Developing with a receiver in Roma Dunzee. But you have a veteran who's really good in DJ Moore. You got one tight end and Cole Komet. Let's draft another one who complements his skill set in Colston Loveland. They're blocking. They're pass catching. What doesn't he have? And oh yeah, by the way, very talented, good if not great defense.

But he's been struggling. And he struggled last year, though that was a little overblown and we'll get to in a minute. But he's been struggling the first few days at camp because he threw an interception and because reporters saw him get taken off the field for Tyson Baygent and the second string. Ben Johnson is holding these guys to a very, very high standard that I can tell you, frankly, was not there last year.

Here's how Ben Johnson addressed the early struggles for Caleb-Bin-Ebson-the-Ebs and offense. I know some people enjoyed me throwing the first team out of practice. Not the case. We got to end up executing, getting in and out of the huddle a certain way, and it wasn't that way. We're learning, we're growing. You know, there's some things from the springtime expected to carry over that that was probably one. We just don't have any tolerance for anymore. We got too far to go. So Caleb Williams is not a finished product And Caleb Williams is hurt now reputational

by guys in his draft class already passing him by Jane and Daniels best rookie season Any of us have ever seen NFC championship game Bo Nix ends up in the playoffs First four weeks of last year looked like he didn't belong in the NFL

By the end of the season I was like Bo Nix had 29 touchdown passes The second most ever for a rookie Why aren't we talking more Bob Bo Nix's rookie season. Drake May had no talent around him, but looks good, looks competent,

made some big-time plays, and the narrative was Caleb Williams was bad. The truth was Caleb Williams at times was bad, and those of us, hand up, who said Caleb Williams was walking into the best situation

any number one overall pick had ever walked into, we drastically underestimated one thing. And it was coaching. And I'm mad at myself for doing it, because I was wrong. Because I was the guy who said when they got the rights to the number one pick, they needed to fire Matt Eberfluse because it was insane to believe that the guy most qualified to develop Caleb Williams was the former Colts defensive coordinator.

I was doing radio in Chicago at the time, and I was saying, you got to fire Eber Fluse. You got to fire Eber Fluse. And they didn't, and I was like, well, it'll probably still work because I like the team around him. And it didn't. Jaden Daniels had Dan Quinn, knew how to be a professional. Bow Nix had Sean Payton, one of the great offensive minds and play callers, but also how to be a professional. Matt Eberfluse, he did not do a good job of helping Caleb Williams become a professional. And I think Caleb Williams thought that he could get

by on just his talent and the talent around him. And Matt Eberflux, he did he, let some things slide last year. And it's come out, and I've heard, I know guys on the team, that they did not like how he reacted to that loss in the wilds card game against Washington. They did not like how he did not take enough accountability for the lack of time management issues

in the game against Detroit on Thanksgiving. And he didn't hold himself to enough account. He didn't hold the players to enough account. Things started to slide, and it got sloppy. but it's like people talk about Caleb Williams being on the verge of being a bust. I promise you you didn't watch if you think that that's the case. He was playing with practice squad guys on his offensive line. His play caller got fired nine games into his rookie year,

and then a franchise that has never fired its head coach in season saw it be so dysfunctional that they broke with historic precedent and fired a head coach in season. That's how bad it was. He took 68 sacks, and to be very clear, plenty of those were on Caleb, trying to play hero ball, backpedaling, trying to do the college stuff and the pros. Again, learning how to be a pro. It was not all on the offensive line.

It was not all on the play callers. But Caleb Williams, for the first time, really, had some failure. Yeah, I know the last year at USC did not go exactly how he want, but he was still celebrated crowns, the number one pick, all of that. He had some failure, and he saw guys be drafted lower than him, pass him by, And now Ben Johnson, he's coming in with expectations. He is pulling him off the field. He is demanding more.

He is calling him out in the team meeting. He is quizzing him in front of the room. He's holding him to a very high standard. And I just have a very hard time believing that a guy with his talent who still had better than a 3-to-1 touchdown interception ratio while taking 68 sacks with a play caller who was fired nine games in, he ain't a bust. I don't know if he'll become Aaron Rogers and Patrick Mahomes and win MVP's.

I still think that ceiling is there, but he's not a bust. Caleb with Ben Johnson with that talent around him, it's going to take time, but he will be just fine. Please do not overreact for my sanity to an interception in a practice. Coming up next, I will tell you why Jalen Hertz is getting properly ranked. And Eagles fans do not need to take so much offense to everything said about your unbelievably successful football team. My top 10 NFL quarterbacks. Next, The Hurd.

Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. You know, tired and sick, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.

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