The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Jerry Jones needs a GM

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Covino & Rich fill in for Colin to explain why Cowboys owner Jerry Jones needs to finally hire a general manager after his recent comments defending his position as owner/GM despite some of their ...disappointing playoff exits in recent years   #crshow  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:20 in for Colin on the herd. Let's have a good day. We have a lot of get to. We got to talk LeBron. Dad? Oh, no, not Dad. Brown. Don't call me Dad. Don't call me Dad. We got to talk bobbleheads today. We have a feature we do every Wednesday, every midweek.
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Starting point is 00:03:54 offended if let's say there's a big game in your city and people are coming to visit that city and they don't stay with you they don't stop and say hi are you offended when your buddies are passing through and they don't acknowledge you there's so much to get to but
Starting point is 00:04:10 before we get into Jerry Jones Rich I was going to say we're also going to talk about drinking on the job oh no see now you're over promising and we're going to talk about Trent Williams and we're going to talk about Dak Prescott now we're going to try to get a lot in today well we'll do our best, okay?
Starting point is 00:04:26 Because we're having fun here on the herd. We're filling in for... These are big shoes to fill. What type of shoes does Colin wear you think? Oh, man. Some expensive, like Prada sneakers or something? No, those new Snoop Skechers probably because they're cool. He's not wearing sketches.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Those Snoop ones, they're cool and comfy. Yeah. I don't know. He's wearing A6. Yeah, yeah, definitely a comfy track shoe for sure. So big shoes to fill, but always fun to be here. Thank you guys so much. If you want to call and get involved, it's 8774-8774-8774-3-3-7-8-7-4-the-herd. Again, at Covino and Rich, if you want to see our punchable faces and especially Riches.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And I got to start off by saying, do we all have the same? I'm putting it out there, okay? I could be by myself, but do we all have the same sort of thing where our wives? He's about to be vulnerable. Yes. Our wives and girlfriends say things to you like, when you wake up in the morning, make sure you put this on your face first. Put this on, and then use this cream when you go to bed.
Starting point is 00:05:25 But use it because it's going to expire soon, so I want you to use it. Does everybody sort of deal with that sort of thing? Are you like the reluctant guy who's like, man, don't do that sort of thing? I'll back you up because I care about that stuff. So if my wife's like, babe, use this skincare stuff, it's good. Dude, I'm getting older. I don't want to look old. But there, I guarantee there's lots of guys listening to the herd right now.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Then I probably never use a moisturizer. I'm like, my dad, my dad is one of those anti, my brother-in-law, he's one of those anti, like, I don't use lotion on my face because I'm a man. I use lava soap. My dad washes his face with that gritty sandpaper soap. Do you know what that people use? Is that lava soap? At a body shop, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah, yeah. My dad used that to wash his face because he's a real man. So anyway, last night, right? My girlfriend's like, same exact conversation. You see that over there? That's the vitamin C you're supposed to, is the C. See the serum? I'm like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Make sure you use that. You got to use that in the morning, okay? Because I don't want it to go bad, and I want you to use that. And I'm like, all right, fine. And then there's a part of me, too, that's like, well, if I don't use it, she's going to notice and get mad. I'm being serious. Is that the faint citrus smell in the studio right now? Dude, and here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I smell burnt rubber. Yeah. What she failed to tell me is that when you put it on, it smells so much like chemicals. And, like, it's burning my eyes right now as we speak. So if you guys smell burnt rubber or burning skin or if my skin starts to melt like the dude from Raiders of the Lost Ark, just know it's because I put this stuff on my face and it smells so bad.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It's going up my nose the whole time. Sort of ruining my whole vibe. Kavino. Yeah. But it took five years off. You look like you're in your 30s again. I'm glowing. My eyes are burning and watery, but yeah, I'm glowing now.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I think a lot of guys can relate to what you said. Wifey, your girlfriend will say, try this lotion and you're just sure let me do it I'm here to say like today was an exception yeah and I'm paying the price but for the most part I don't think dude should be reluctant are you in a rush to look like a catcher's mitt are you in a rush to look like the old marlborough man are you in a rush to look like an old guy I say you follow their lead they know a little something about this stuff but she failed to tell me how much it smelled so it smells like uh it smells like you know like a beauty slon or something.
Starting point is 00:07:45 You know, like that chemical? Like, what is that? Oh, that's my face. People can smell it from where they are now. That's how bad. Yeah, probably. You probably smell it through your speakers. Now, this is only trumped by one of the story I could think of. Trumped. And let me wrap it up by telling this story real quick.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yep. My sister pulled one of these on my brother-in-law. My sister was like, Chris, I got you a new hair product. It's under the sink. Okay. Now, my brother-in-law Chris is a total bobo, right? And he'll do whatever you tell him to do. He's sort of laid back, just goes with the flow kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:08:22 He's like, all right, I'll use whatever you tell him to do. And he came to my house one day. He's like, I don't know what's going on, man. I'm like burning up or something. I feel real weird. And, dude, I'm looking at the guy, and his head is red as could be, like a tomato head. I'm like, what is going out of you, man? you okay? I used the new hair product.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And he's telling me about the new hair product he used. He used like Ben Gayer Icey Hot on his hair and his head was on fire the whole time dude. I'm like dude he grabbed the wrong bottle or something or I don't know what he did but he used some sort of muscle cream
Starting point is 00:09:00 on his head and it was burning the whole time and the dude had to go to a concert like that. I'm like, what an idiot. So anyway, be careful when he used this stuff maybe do a little sample first. That was my morning. How was yours? Well I'll tell you what. I'll tie it into our lead today.
Starting point is 00:09:16 You know who doesn't listen to their wife or girlfriend? Jerry Jones, because he don't listen to nobody. Does he have to? Jerry Jones. Isn't that one of the perks of being that old and successful? Listen, Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones is, let's be honest, a great business man. The value of the Dallas Cowboys is upwards of $10 billion. He's done at all.
Starting point is 00:09:41 But he has had more head coaches than playoff wins since the 90s. Wow, that's a better. Hell, he hasn't done anything with that team in the playoffs since the 90s. What were you doing in 1996? Me? Picking your nose in college, drinking cheap beer? No, man, I was the man in 96. Of course you were.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Yankees won the World Series. I was at the parade. I was doing all sorts of fun stuff. Well, think about that mindset. That's the last time Jerry Jones got to the promised land with the Cowboys. So it's funny when he comes. out because there's all the speculation, Danny all the time, right? Like, should Jerry Jones hire a GM?
Starting point is 00:10:17 The consensus is what? Of course. And this has been going on for years and years. Yeah, but once you pass like 100 years old, isn't it written somewhere that you can do whatever you want? Isn't that one of the perks of making it this far? You know a little something, right? Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:10:34 I'm not saying Jerry Jones knows a lot. But listen to this quote. This is via an interview. He did a one-on-one with Cowboys reporter Clarence Hill Jr. Okay. I've done it all. Should I do a little southern accent? Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I thought that was an actual soundbite. No, no. I've done it all. Don't egg them on. I have an ordnant amount of confidence, so if, if anyone can figure out how to get this S done, I can figure it out, then how it gets done. Okay. And then he goes on to say, I've been there every which way from Sunday. I busted my ass a bunch, a bunch, and there's nobody living
Starting point is 00:11:14 that's out cutting and shooting that can't give a bunch of times they busted their ass. I don't even know what that means. Like a weasel on a woodpecker. I've done it all. So he's saying there's no one, and it ends with him saying, and there's no one that could be a better GM than me. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And by the way, Ryan, Big Sexy, you don't have to bleep me out when I say like a weasel on a woodpecker. One time I got, like, bleeped out, and they're like, we didn't know what that meant. It was the National Geographic photo of the year. It was a weasel on top of a woodpecker. If you don't believe him, look it up.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Look it up. Google it, but it sounded like something like Jerry Jones would say. When we were on ESPN, this is a true story. I'll tell you like a weasel on a woodpecker. I've seen it off. I've seen it. I've done it. Woo-hoo.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Kavino said that. They dumped, they hit the dump button. They hit a weasel on a woodpecker. It's an amazing photo, though. Look it up. The weasel is riding on the back of a woodpecker. but I don't want to get you off track. I think the proof is in the numbers.
Starting point is 00:12:15 More head coaches than playoff wins, all that stuff. We know what the Cowboys have been up to. But I do think you need to give old people their respect. He is the Cowboys. He does know a little something. I'm not saying he could do it better than a GM. But there is something to be said about the wisdom an older person has. Really, that's all you have when you're that old.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You've been there, done that you've seen it all. But aren't there? things you just have someone else do. Yes. Think about your own life. All right. Ryan music. Handsome fellow. I mean, so well-dressed. Both 2E and music. Both. Look at you guys. Can I tell you? Look at you guys. You know why I wore jeans and put on some
Starting point is 00:12:55 Jordans today in a nice shirt? Because you guys, the her dress is nice. They set the tone. Dress for success. Yeah. Yo, Ryan, you were saying that you at one point tried to mount your own TV. Oh, you know what? That's a job. Terrible. Terrible idea. Tell us about it.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Listen, it all worked out. So we'll start at the end and let you know that the TV is still on the wall. The wall is intact. We're all good there. But if you're mounting your own TV, you'd be like, hey, you know, maybe this takes like two hours. Three, if you're really doing your due diligence. Yeah, it took like three days. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:31 We got to preface it, too. Like, we understand there are certain guys out there who take a lot of pride and doing it themselves. And they're good at this stuff. But if you're not good at this stuff, you have to ask yourself, is my time worth that? Wouldn't it be easier to just have someone do it just to save me the frustration and the time? 100%. My brother-in-law helped me do it. And we had just moved into this house, my wife and I.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And you know, you're so excited. You're like, oh, new house. This is great. So cool. I'll do it. I'll do it. Yeah, yeah. You start putting holes in the wall.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And then all of a sudden, you're like, man, this took a lot longer than I thought. Now it's 9 o'clock at night. You're like, we can't be drilling holes into the wall. 9 o'clock at night, carries over into the next day. You forgot where you left off. You're like, oh, we got to remeasure. Did you write down the measurements? Oh, we got to remeasure again.
Starting point is 00:14:18 You're not confident about it. Oh, no, absolutely not. He's thinking of fall off. And then you put this faith in a professional, Rich, where they put it up and you're like, oh, looks good. If you do it, I bet you question everything. And is it straight? You probably dwelled on it.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Absolutely. Didn't know if it was straight. We keep like backing off going back. We're like, no, it's crooked, it's crooked. You take it off, you do it again. You're like, no, now it's crooked. The first way was the right way. And then, yeah, for like two weeks after that,
Starting point is 00:14:48 I kept thinking as soon as I got home, I'm going to open the door and the TV's going to be on the ground. Yeah, now, from now, from then on, I was like, I am never doing anything like that again. You had to call Johnny Lawrence. He has a company out here. You know of COBrickeye, Johnny Lawrence? Didn't he break a pipe in the wall?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yes, in one of the episodes. One of the episodes? Yeah, but he mounted TVs. And that is, I can imagine people rolling their eyes there because there's a lot of people where they could do that easily. But I'm with you 100%. You go to my house? I have a space right there ready for the TV to be mounted.
Starting point is 00:15:18 It just hasn't been done yet. Because I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I don't need the hassle or the hoff. It's a message to Jerry Jones. Jerry, we know what you've done. You're a billionaire. You own the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Get a GM. Don't be that sure of yourself. I have a question. You're a great business, man. I need... Are you great at this? I don't know. I need to...
Starting point is 00:15:42 Are you too old? Is it past you? I don't know. My wife wants to put a... What are they called? Pendance over the kitchen island. You know, like the little hanging lights over a kitchen island? I called an electrician.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Do you think I want to attempt to start doing electric work in my house? Yeah, just YouTube. That's insane! I'm glad you're saying that, though, because there's probably millions of people listening right now. It is the... Millions who are rolling their eyes and saying, come on. Yeah, some of us are handy.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I delivered my own son. I'm not paying $9,000 at the hospital. You've got to pay a professional. I mean, even something as simple as you could be like, this is absurd. I think it's worth a hundred bucks a month for a pool guy. Out here in California, it's not like I'm bawling. A lot of people have pools.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Well, that's the thing. Now, are you just being lazy there, or do you really need a professional? But you work hard so you can pay people so you can relax and enjoy your family and your time. I get it. is I'm not, that's not something I know. So guess what I do? No, what, do I? Skim in a pool?
Starting point is 00:16:42 No, I could skim the pool, but to give someone a hundred bucks a month to, they come by every week to make sure the levels and the chlorine and everything's right, that to me is worth it for you. It's worth it. I have a question. Everybody has there, is it worth it for you? It's not a day of our show if I don't bring up your divorce or ex-wife. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Go ahead. We're only on national radio. Only millions listening. It's okay. Did you spend a lot of money on a divorce attorney? or did you say, no, I'm going to represent myself?
Starting point is 00:17:09 I thought about it because I was broke as hell. Yeah, I thought about it. I'm like, I think I could do it. But no. Not only,
Starting point is 00:17:17 hold on, to answer your question, since you brought it up every day of my life since then. Okay. Not only did I have to pay for a lawyer, you as the guy who makes them more money or a woman
Starting point is 00:17:27 who makes more money, you have to pay for the other person too. So I had to pay for my lawyer and her lawyer. I'm like, what, F that guy. That was a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Nightmare, for real. So mounting a TV, hiring an electrician, representing yourself in court. Why do you think being your own GM? Why do you think athletes sometimes get pushed back when they're like, I don't need an agent. I'm going to represent myself. That's usually not a good idea. Now, Lamar Jackson, Richard Sherman, there have been people that successfully have done it. But in our world even, like, we're small potatoes compared to a Colin or Dan Patrick.
Starting point is 00:17:59 But we have an agent that represents us and does our contract because there are things you can't do. You get someone to do them. An unprofessional look to be talking numbers with your employer. It's never a good thing, especially in this business. I'm sure yours as well. But Jerry Jones, it comes down to this. Can you do it yourself? Should you do it yourself?
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Starting point is 00:18:38 and she's like I don't know what to do this is a great example of get someone to do it I know this story this is you know should you hire a professional or do it yourself Jerry Jones style she's like there's like a major active beehive in front of my house
Starting point is 00:18:54 and the neighbors are complaining and she showed a video right and it looked like she went back in time because there was some sort of prehistoric beehive that I'd never seen before Like something out of a cartoon. Usually you see those little cones or those little, you know, those little things in the corner. You're like, what is that?
Starting point is 00:19:10 Hornet's Nest? What is that thing right there? And you remove it? This was a full-on, giant prehistoric high. It looked bigger than the biggest watermelon at a cookout. And she's like, it was like, and my dad was like, yeah, yeah, I'd tell you what I would do. I would just, you know, spray it and hit it with a broom and, yeah, tell your husband to do it. I'm like, tell her husband to do it.
Starting point is 00:19:32 This guy's going to get bit by these things. They're probably deadly. Because they end up dying. Just hire somebody. It wasn't even a bees. It was like a hornet. It was a hornet. Dude, I'm going to show you.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Ryan, I'm going to show you because I'm not exaggerating. It was full on, like, giant, like cartoon-like, like hive. People can all come out and make an arrow, like in a cartoon. Yeah. And go out to the guy. Yeah. And she's like, it'll probably cost me like $200 to get it removed.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I'm like $200 well spent. You're going to have your husband going up. there with a ladder or whatever. In a broom. In a broom, the neighborhood. They're going to attack. Like, what are you doing? What's the cost of a hospital bill when he falls off the ladder?
Starting point is 00:20:10 Dude, and it gets stung 50 times? Not only, yeah, seriously. So, like, yeah, 200 bucks. Nobody, nobody wants to waste or spend 200 bucks that they don't have to spend. But some things are just better left to a professional. You could relax, have the comfort of knowing that it's being done right. And Jerry Jones here could probably benefit if he hires a GM. That's not to discredit what he knows.
Starting point is 00:20:35 He does know a lot. So I give him that, but hire somebody else because the proof is in the numbers. Can I play devil's advocate? Only if you're Keanu Reeves. Okay. Now why? When's the last time you saw that movie? Why would Jared Jones?
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah. Need a GM. When it does seem like he does make good moves. He's putting great personnel. He's signing the right players. No one's ever good business moves. Not good winning moves. No one's ever said this team is failing because Jerry Jones is losing in free agency.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Jerry Jones is drafting poorly. This team has constructed well. And as Mike McCarthy said earlier, I don't know when the hell it became easy to win 12 games every year. They just can't get to the next level. Is that on Jerry Jones or is that on the head coach and the personnel just not delivering in the clutch? Jerry Jones, you could argue from a GM owner's standpoint, has done a pretty great job. right? The problem is in what we know about the NFL in general is a GM, if Jerry was the GM but had an owner, he would be out of a job by now. Because an owner would not keep a GM for going on two and a half decades now.
Starting point is 00:21:53 That's true. Without advancing past the divisional round of the playoffs. You know what? That's a great point. So yeah, he should fire himself as GM and hire so if he was going to be a, diligent owner. In that case, he has to fire himself from this position and hire someone else just to give him a shot to shake it up. As our buddy Frell used to say, you got to shake it. Oh, you know. So the question again, Heard Nation, Fox Sports Radio Nation, things you shouldn't do yourself, you know, like deliver a baby, like electric work. There's no way that Rich should be doing that. I know Rich's skill set. Again, removing a beehive.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Tell us your story, your nightmare, or maybe the story where it paid off where you gonna pay somebody and you're glad you didn't let us know again do you like to do it yourself uh 8777 4 877 4-4-3-7-4-the-herd some people have no choice but to do it themselves yeah that's true um i i will say if you want to get people fired up we we've been doing this a long time believe it or not and what gets people more mad than anything you're gonna bring up cars aren't i did let me tell you i knew it when there are hot buttons i'm sure colin has certain conversations he could have where listeners and people go nuts,
Starting point is 00:23:03 maybe backwards hats or some fun take Colin has, right? Anytime I talk about, oh, I bring my car in to get the oil change, I don't do that myself. The feedback we get of like, what do you mean, you don't change your own oil? And I'm like, why? You're not a man's man.
Starting point is 00:23:19 See, I said Danny. Dude, you don't know the backlash we get. And I always have to defend Rich here, too. And believe me, I don't want it. But when we agree, it's fact. We're guys from the East. coast. I'm from New Jersey. Rich is from Long Island. So, very much city boys in some ways, right? So we'd grow up with
Starting point is 00:23:38 this skill set where you do it yourself and you're under the car, you're rigging it up and you're changing this and fixing that. And I'm tinkering on the weekend. Woo! Like a weasel on a hookahecker. Yeah. No, like, that's not what we grew up doing, right? I grew up playing wiffleball and baseball and like a lot of you did, but I'm saying we didn't grow up with that skill level. My dad was like, get out of my way. He was one of those things. Dad, can I help? Nah, he's in my way. So he never taught us Jack Diddley squat. Same with Rich's dad.
Starting point is 00:24:08 So we don't change our own oil. Leave it to the professional. All right. Jerry Jones style, your feedback next right here on Fox Sports Radio. And we are going to get to Otani and bobbleheads. Another conversation that gets people fired up. Some people like, yeah, bobbleheads. Other people like, what are you, a child? So we'll talk about Otani Bumblehead night, which is tonight. There's a lot of people excited about that out here in L.A. We'll talk about LeBron James. Some more NFL, drinking on the job.
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Starting point is 00:27:16 To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but yeah. Yeah, yeah. Literally. But just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed,
Starting point is 00:27:27 correct. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year
Starting point is 00:27:38 for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:27:46 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me. Your host and your favorite therapist, Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience
Starting point is 00:27:59 in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing and we're still chasing it and we don't know when we've done enough.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth? Are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Join me, Kear Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast. Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. All right. Covino and Rich, the C&R show, in for Colin on the herd day two. And remember for hot water that never runs out, go tankless with Navian. Right now save hundreds on a new high-efficiency tankless water heater with local rebates.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Find the name of your Navian contractor at tankless made simple.com. Tankless made simple.com and the show is going to be broadcasting live from the Tiger Sooners next month, Friday, September 27th. Kavino Rich will be at the brand new Auburn location for graduate hotels. That's on Magnolia in Auburn, Alabama. So if you want some drinks, you want to hang, get some prizes. Make a note, join us Friday, September 27th at the Graduate Hotel in Auburn. I want to make it clear, though. We're broadcasting live.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Yeah, the big day before the game. Yeah, at Auburn. So let's hang. And we hang afterward. Let's party. Let's have a great time. This is your invite right now. You want more information.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Hit us up at Kovina. and Rich at Fox Sports Radio. I'm Steve Kavino, just a kid from Union, New Jersey, and we're going to talk LeBron in a few minutes, you know, just a kid from Akron. That's Rich Davis, Danny G. We got Tui and music.
Starting point is 00:30:04 We got Spotty getting ready for midweek major, the biggest stories in sports and pop culture. We do it every midweek, every Wednesday. Stick around for that. But do you do it yourself? Things you shouldn't do yourself, a la Jerry Jones. He's his own.
Starting point is 00:30:20 GM, he says he's the best GM, so why hire a GM? I thought of something else. We were talking to Big Mike who runs this place. He's saying, by the way, just to give me one more part of that quote. Yeah. When asked should he get a GM? Yeah. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:30:35 There's no one that could effing come in here and do all the contracts the way I do and be a better GM. He is just sure of himself. Listen, when you have a $10 billion team. I thought you were giving him that Root and Tooting, Yosemite and Sam sort of Texas thing. I think it's like sometimes people are too confident. Like you ask a lot of, let's give you an analogy. It is the herd. Colin loves analogies.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Go up to a bunch of guys. Go up to a bunch of guys. Be like, hey, how's your marriage? Oh. Most guys would be like, yeah, everything's great. Everything's good. That asks their wives. Sometimes things aren't as good as a guy might think.
Starting point is 00:31:15 How many times have you seen a guy where he's like, yeah, you know, my wife's good? And he says some dumb thing, like calls her. the old ball and chain or some nonsense. And I guarantee the wife. No, no, no. The worst is my old lady. Oh, my old lady. Nothing makes your wife happier.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And feel sexy. It feels sexy than when you say. Nothing's sexier than when he refers to her as my old lady. You ask that old lady, she's probably like, yeah, I'm not that happy. So, you know, you got to remember, Jerry Jones, is getting the job done. They're making the playoffs consistently, as I said, Mike McCarthy said, I don't know the one in the hell became easy to win 12 games every year. but when you don't get to that next level
Starting point is 00:31:51 when you don't get to the finish line and I'm a Niners fan they're getting that criticism now they're getting close but can't get the job done if you can't get the job done I know Jerry Jones wants to win right we know that but he's also in the business of
Starting point is 00:32:05 give me my money and as the trend goes and he's getting plenty man and they're making plenty and they're paying the right guys it just execute on the field I think Ryan I'll give Ryan credit again Tui and Music
Starting point is 00:32:20 are here. Ryan Music said any other GM would have been fired by this point based on their playoff success. So if he was a really great active owner, which we believe he is and should be, then he would have fired that GM,
Starting point is 00:32:35 therefore firing himself as the GM, getting a new one to come and make that change. I thought of something else, though, of things you should or shouldn't do. It's a debate. This is a debatable one. We'll get to your phone calls next. Okay, let's hear. 8774 for the herd. 877 484-34-3437
Starting point is 00:32:52 this is right on the fence here on the cusp of should you or should you not we've all made that trip to IKEA you know the hem-ness hem-nez line is one of my favorites that's what hem-nez so if it's IKEA furniture I sort of got this down I always end up with
Starting point is 00:33:09 extra parts but I'm like hey you know what I'm good I'm good on that I don't need help but you ever buy like a desk or something from Amazon it's not necessarily IKEA, but it's the same sort of premise where you're putting it together, but they don't make it as easy. It's just like a bunch of nonsense. You're like, oh, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I've hired somebody to put that together. For real? Yeah. There's services everywhere. Is that, dude, that would have ruined my entire, is your entire Sunday afternoon? Dude, I can't read. You're trying to watch football. You want to relax and have a drink.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Do it while you're watching football. Let me tell you. Dude, that could aggravate and ruin the whole tone of your weekend. You work hard all week. You want to deal with this. aggravation? There is a big difference. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I've done it before. There's a big difference between me saying, a la Jerry Jones, there are things you don't do yourself. I'm not rewiring the electricity in my home. But I'm putting together a dresser. Dude, no, no, it was a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:34:01 It wasn't it your typical hemnes IKEA? Give me another good IKEA name spot. What? Calix. Yeah, is that one of those that you know you're familiar with? This was something from Amazon. It looked like a nightmare. I'm like, no, not doing it.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Okay. So I did pay somebody to do that. Again, things you should and shouldn't do yourself. I got one more dumb one. And then we'll go to, we'll start with Cameron and Cincinnati. We'll take all your calls in for the herd. Not putting it together, but if you go to a place and there's a delivery charge, are you the person that's like, nah, I can fit into my truck or car?
Starting point is 00:34:37 And you got like your hand on the roof and you're balancing it with your wife. Like there's a huge mirror on the hood of your SUV and you got an Ottoman sticking out of your truck. Bungy cords. Yeah. Are you doing that or are you saying, no, no, no, I'll pay the $50,000 for delivery. I'd rather pay the $50. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:55 You work hard so that you could use that money to get things done the right way. Otherwise, you're just taking shortcuts and that never pans out right, at least for me. Now, if you're a skillful guy, I get it. It doesn't apply to you. I don't have those skills.
Starting point is 00:35:10 But Rich, you called me out about the furniture. I got to call you out. Yeah. All right? I admit, I didn't put that piece. together recently. This guy takes his car not only for an oil change, he takes his car
Starting point is 00:35:23 to the full-on service center for air in his tires because he doesn't do it himself. That's the truth. He is absurd. Rich is on a different level of ridiculous. Oh, come on. Yeah. Well, Danny, the car dealership is as equal. It's almost as close
Starting point is 00:35:39 as the gas station. So I give the guy five bucks and he brings out the little tank and I'm like, because then they got to reset the button in the car so the light's not on. You can't do that? That is something you could do. Don't look at me for validation. I'm looking around around. Listen, I'm looking around the room.
Starting point is 00:35:54 There's no validation. Let's go to phone calls. Cincinnati, Cameron, you're on. What's up, Cam? What you go right here? There we go. All right. What's up, Cam?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Hey, what's going on, guys? What's up, brother? How are you? What are you? Good. What's your thoughts? Yeah, so about putting things together. I had this
Starting point is 00:36:15 the disposal, food disposal in your sink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, yeah, yeah. And so it's like, $100 to get a new one. I call the people to come, see what they can do.
Starting point is 00:36:26 They're going to charge me like $95 just to come out. So I'm like, oh, yeah, I can do this. I can do this by myself. Yeah, about four hours later, it's still making the noise. Still making the noise. But I have successfully installed this new disposal. Oh, Cameron, give it up for Cam.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And they always talk about it. Don't you feel like a sense of pride and accomplished when you're done? Like, no, I just wasted four hours and I aged 10 years from all that aggravation. You know, what are you trying to do? Proof to your wife that you could do it. How about you proof to her that you can get it done right and just pay someone to do it nicely? Let's go to Jose. And you're keeping that other person with food on their table.
Starting point is 00:37:04 You're keeping them working. What a nice guy. Jose in L.A. What's up, Jose? You're doing for the economy. Hey, what's up, guys? How are you guys doing? I'm making a delivery. But yeah, back like 17 years ago, I delivered my son.
Starting point is 00:37:20 So I was at the hospital. Excuse me, hold on. I like how you said about seven, like you don't know how old he is. About 17. Is he like 15 or 17? I don't know. But I delivered him. Yeah, so I'm 40 now.
Starting point is 00:37:34 My son's 17. Shout out to Jay Dale, I'll tell him my high school. Yeah, so I was in the parking out with my boys. And when I got the call, we were drinking in the parking lot. celebrating me having a kid, right? Yeah. So I get the phone call, boom, upstairs, and the doctor's sitting there right there in front of the mother of my child,
Starting point is 00:37:53 and he's like, you're the father? I was like, yeah, he's like, prep them and get him ready. I'm like, man, what the hell's going on? So they prep me, they get me ready. He's like, sit right here right next to me. Like, all right, so I'm staring at my son's head crowning, right? And the doctor's like, give me both of your hands. So he gets both of my hands, bro, and puts them inside.
Starting point is 00:38:13 inside the mother of myself. So he said, grab the shoulders and turn counterclockwise and pull out slowly. I'm like, what the end? He takes his hands out. And then he went to get a cup of coffee and he's like, you got it for me here, brother. I don't even like bagging my own groceries, let alone do this. Yeah. Jeez, I say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:38:31 What are you for? Why am I doing all the work? So you thought I was kidding when I said I delivered my own son. Oh, that's crazy, dude, you know? But I guess that's a great story to tell your kid. Hey, I deliver you. Relax. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Congrats. Good breaking, right. All right, you know what we got to do? I thought he was calling from like the 1800s or something. We got to do some herd line news. Let's go. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.
Starting point is 00:38:55 This is the herd line news. All right, good morning, guys. We'll hit one quick NFL story and one baseball story. Cowboys signing running back, Dalvin Cook. Last played for the Jets last season. Look like he might have lost a step. He was mostly a backup. In fairness,
Starting point is 00:39:12 We also know the Jets' offense was basically a complete mess after Aaron Rogers went down. The starter right now with Dallas, they have the reunion with Zeke. Reports are that Cook will start on the practice squad. But yeah, so you have Zeke and Dalvin Cook, some elder statesman. I was going to say, if this were five plus years ago, they'd be stacked! You know, who's getting fed more out of those two? I mean, definitely Zeke to start the year. I don't know, partway through the year.
Starting point is 00:39:41 You look at Dalvin Cook and it fell apart real fast. We talked yesterday about Juju Smith-Schuster, how it was 2018 when he had that big year. And it seems like yesterday. But the team was five plus seasons ago. Dalvin Cook in Minnesota, as a two years ago, over 1,000 yards rushing, like touchdowns, what happened? We're right there, man. And he's only 28. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:04 So maybe there's some juice left in that, you know, in the squeeze there. It's possible. Look, like we said, the Jets offense was a total mess. Their offensive line was bad last year. So maybe there's hope for some more production in Dallas. But I guarantee last year, Colin, Dan, someone on this network, when he signed with the Jets and Aaron Rogers was not hurt yet. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:26 We thought when we watch Hard Knocks that Dalvin Cook was going to be a factor. Sure. And it turned out to be nothing. Absolutely. You remember that. All right. We'll wrap up with this. Rich, there's still hope.
Starting point is 00:40:38 There's still hope. Here we go. Boston Red Sox promoting 44-year-old Rich Hill from AAA. That's right. Oh, good at. They're having some injury issues and they're starting rotation. So they're going to call up Rich Hill at 43 last year. He made 27 starts for the Pirates and the Padres.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Now he's getting another shot on the big. Dude, I love that. Those softball days, you know, you still got a chance. It's my age. I mean, maybe I can go. Hey, you know what? Maybe if someone comes out. Like Kvino's brother was getting a look.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Yeah. The Frontier League. You never know who's watching. Yeah. The Dodgers or Angels to check out Balboa on the weekends when I'm playing softball. Rich Hill, this would be his 19th year. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:21 No, he started in 05. This would be 20. Yeah, his 20th year. I'm sorry, he's got 19 years in the bigs. 44 years old. That's amazing. How could you not root for that? Yeah, that's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I love that. And here's what's crazy. It just made me think of Nolan Ryan real quick. So Nolan Ryan pitched until you was. 46, but when he was 44, he still made 27 starts for the Rangers, pitched 173 innings, 2.9 ERA. Those dudes looked like they were 184 back then, though. When you see like the NICROs or like Charlie Huff looked like he was 105 on the mound,
Starting point is 00:41:55 those dudes look so old back then. Rich Hill still looks all right. He's wearing rock port cleats. He's wearing old guy cleats, but yeah, I'm rooting for the guy. You ever see music? You ever see one of those stats where it's Nolan Ryan post-form? 40 is like a star in itself. Yeah. Insane. It's a Hall of Fame career post 40.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Oh, my God. Hey, thank you. Heard Lye News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. Dad? We're going to talk about LeBron James next. It's a funny story about him and Brani as they are teammates next year. We'll get to that. Plus, Otani Bumblehead, drinking on the job. A bunch of fun stuff. Kavino and Rich filling in for Colin on the herd.
Starting point is 00:42:37 right here, Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Pauli Fusco here with Tony Fusco. Yo, as everybody knows, we're the host of the award-winning Pauli and Tony Fusco show. Yeah. But instead of us telling you how great we are,
Starting point is 00:42:52 here's how Dan Patrick described us when he came on our show. Quick, knowledgeable, and funny, opinionated. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing? You're interrupting our promo. Yeah. He wasn't talking about you. You took those clips totally out of context.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Oh, yeah, well, after. to this promo, I'm going to take you out and beat you. Let me put this into context. Shut up! Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Folly and Tony Fusco show on I-Hart Radio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all. Embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,
Starting point is 00:44:02 or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast.
Starting point is 00:44:31 It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan. So we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away,
Starting point is 00:45:09 such as the biology of taun tons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to Stuff to Bole Your Mind on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tapped Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do that?
Starting point is 00:45:34 do a little kill. Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:45:51 To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have on the table right now.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Thank you for finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hard Way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience. in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking. Trip Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing.
Starting point is 00:46:49 And we're still chasing it. And we don't know when we've done enough because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross. Because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth. Are you a good person because you're afraid?
Starting point is 00:47:04 Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust. I want you to just really be a good person. Join me, Keer Gaines, as we have real conversations about healing, growth, fatherhood, pressure, and purpose on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Welcome back to the show.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Kavino and Rich in for Colin on the herd. And we just discovered JLab headphones. Got a box right here. these bad boys. I call them bad boys. Check out these bad boys. You love goodies. Oh, yeah. JLab headphones. We know Colin is hooked. For his most recent East Coast trip, Colin
Starting point is 00:47:44 used to J-Lab, Lucks Over-Ear noise-canceling headphones. Find the blue box. It's the blue box at Walmart, Target, Best Buy, and more. Or visit j-lab.com. Again, that's j-lab.com. I'm Steve Covino. That is Rich Davis.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Thank you guys for hanging out with us. We're at Covino and Rich at Fox SportsRour. radio. The number again, if you want to call, say what's up. Say, Ketal, Vatos Locos. 877-484-3437-8-877 for the herd. Lots of great feedback of, do you do it yourself? There are things you do and things you don't. Do you like to do it yourself? I mean, Jerry Jones now?
Starting point is 00:48:25 Jerry Jones has said, until he can't do it anymore, he insinuated until I'm too old. How old is Jerry Jones now in his 80s, right? 185. I said, what does he win for? When he hits 100, now it's time. I'm like, I'll hand it over. So, yeah, Jerry Jones will do it forever. He's 81, by the way.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Yeah. Well, before we get to LeBron and Otani and a bunch of other stuff, and of course, a lot of NFL today. He's had a thought. Oh, no. When, I was scrolling through our social media. When someone says something. nice to you. You tend to be like,
Starting point is 00:49:07 yeah, great, thanks. When someone says something rude... Oh, what did they say? No, really, honestly, there hasn't been much rude, but if you want to... If you want to, at Covene-en-Ritch, bring the kindness... I live by this.
Starting point is 00:49:20 You hate me, I hate you back even worse. But here's my thought. When it does come to social media, we had this dumb conversation on our show months ago. What would your grandparents and the older people in your life that passed away. What would they think is the weirdest thing about culture now in 2024?
Starting point is 00:49:42 And I thought the number one answer was, imagine your grandfather. I'm for sure a lot of our grandfathers have passed away. Wait, wait, so someone on the internet says they don't like you? What the hell do you care? Wait a shakin. So you're telling me that Paul Skeen's had a no-hitter going and they yanked them? Yeah, then he would complain about that too. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Pitchers don't pitch the whole game. Man, this generation's soft. No, but I think it's really odd to think that our generation and obviously younger people care very much about what strangers think. It's very odd thinking. Never met you, don't know you. Wait, we disagree about this in sports and politics. You are fighting with strangers.
Starting point is 00:50:26 There's such an easy solution to this. Let me share it with the world. It's called block. Okay, but that's, It's called I hate you two. I thought you were going to talk about your burner accounts. No, that's Kevin Durant. Oh, you think I stink?
Starting point is 00:50:39 Guess what? Blocked. But I'm wondering, I ain't got time for that. Why is that not the answer for everyone, whether it's an NFL player, an NBA player, just people that fight about sports or politics, because I think deep down inside. Yo, I got to deal with, you already mentioned it, ex-wives, a teenage daughter. You think I got time for this guy? Block.
Starting point is 00:50:56 No way. But get out of here. My point is. Why you even, every once in all. when I'm bored. I'll give this to you. When I'm bored, I'll pull a Kevin Durant. That just means I'm bored. Like, oh, really? Let's chop it up. I stink. So do you. Let's talk about it. You know, and I'll go back and forth. But otherwise, I'm just blocking these people. Who has time for that? Honestly. And you say who has time for it, but I think deep down inside,
Starting point is 00:51:21 you, yeah, it'll sting every once in a while. Not sting. I think deep down inside, we just love conflict. I think it's why a lot of dudes put up with pain in the ass women. women put up with jerk guys. Drama show. I think deep down inside, there's something that draws people to drama. And of course, like, look at television. Debate.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Why do people watch dumb reality shows like The Bachelorette and the Vanderpump? We live off of that. There's a juicy story in the world of sports. We're like, oh, yeah. Yeah, but if you're not reactionary, you can also turn a troll into a friend or a fan because if you are just cool with them,
Starting point is 00:51:55 sometimes they'll write you back saying, man, I was just in a bad mood. You know how many times people hit us up? A great point, Danny, Gene. You know how many times people hit us up? and they're like, yeah, sorry, I wrote that to you when I was drunk or high? That happens all the time. So I just think it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:52:09 It's an interesting observation about the social media culture we live in. We give a lot of attention to haters, right? All right. Kivino and Rich, more next. In for the herd. Hang tight. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite, unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funny. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an acapella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:52:50 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care which I'll say. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement
Starting point is 00:53:04 to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. On the Look Back at a podcast. For 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down,
Starting point is 00:53:36 and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
Starting point is 00:53:59 It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:54:22 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to and learn the hard weight with your favorite therapist and host, Kear Games. This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having them with a licensed professional who knows what he's doing. How many men carry a suit or armor?
Starting point is 00:54:43 It signals to the world that you're not to be played with. And just because you have the capability that does not mean that you need to, listen to learn the hard way on the IHard radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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