The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Jets Mess, Happy For Josh Jacobs

Episode Date: July 17, 2024

Colin gives his reasons as to why he's not confident in the NY Giants this upcoming season.  We should be happy for Josh Jacobs because he's now playing for a stable organization. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on radio all day, X-N-Series all day. I appreciate that, J-Mack. So I don't know if you're watching HBO Max, Hard Knocks. I am now watching it on the New York Giants. And I think we talked about this. About a week ago, you may or may not have been on the show. I was talking, I think, to Jordan about this, that you get little moments on these shows.

A lot of it is people playing to the cameras. But you get about, you know, every couple shows, you get a moment or a scene. And you can kind of have a sense of what's going on in the room. And there was a scene last night, HBO Giants. We've seen this before. So you're not a Giants fan, so this will be an easy topic for you to stomach. I try to limit watching bad teams in the offseason. Colin. Okay. Well, so there's no school, no certification, no degree to be an NFL general manager.

Some of the guys are analytic guys. Some are former players. Couple owners think they're GMs. There's really a wide spectrum. Minnesota's GM went to Princeton and then went to Stanford to get a master's in economics, and there was a trader on Wall Street. And then the Niners GM was a player in a broadcaster, John Lynch, a friend. In the dysfunctional middle, Cincinnati, the Bengals, Cowboys, their owners are the GMs, which is laughable. So you go from traders to Wall Street traders to tycoons. It's all over the map. I can only judge you, therefore, on the results.

I think the Jets Joe Douglas is good, but he whiffed on left tackle and a quarterback. I hated both, and I'm not a GM. and I could see Zach Wilson wasn't going to work. So how good is he? Bill Belichick's the best coach, arguably in the history of the sport, and the last seven drafts, which he's controlled in New England, there's almost no pro bowlers. He's awful at it.

Awful. I mean, his last draft, he had three guards, two kickers for the slowest receiving core in the league. He's just lost. The Bears GM's interesting, Ryan Poles. he was shaky early. The Chase Claypool moved in work. Veles Jones, third round, Tennessee wide receiver, bust.

But he's been really good in the last 18 months. So he's taken some swings and he's hit on a lot of them. I kind of think he's an interesting one. He's also helped rebuild the offensive line. But the one thing I do know about being a general manager, and I got a lot of friends who do it, you got to have some sort of relationship with the owner that's comfortable. You have to trust the owner. You've got to be able to read your

owner's temperament. Sometimes the owner has kids in the building. Sometimes the owner can be like Jimmer, say in Indianapolis, a little impulsive. Sometimes almost all the time, the owner thinks he knows more about football than he does. But there was a moment in this. So John Mara is sitting there on the table. And this is before Saquan Barkley and free agency left for the rival eagles. And the GM is Joe Shane, a handsome young guy from Buffalo. He's got two underlings in the chairs.

Watch all the body language with this and listen as Mara is just really uncomfortable with his star, Saquan Barkley, going to rival Philadelphia potentially. What's the latest? Just on the Saquan thing, just got a text that Chicago's driving the price up and Philly's out.

I don't know if that's true or not. Which I don't know if that... I'll make a couple of calls. I don't even know if that's going to happen, but... I have a tough time to sleep and if a sign one goes to Philadelphia, I'll say that, as I've told you, just being out. I had been around enough players. But he's the most popular player we have by far.

HBO, stream it. HBO Max Tuesday, Hard Dogs. Um, that's really bad. Like the owner's not happy. Joe Shane's smiling. The underlings have their head down. Like it's really uncomfortable. And he doesn't have an answer.

Well, I'm hearing that, but it may not be true. So if you're hearing it via a text, you don't trust your sources. I trust mine and I'm just a radio guy. You're a GM. Do you think that's what it looks like with less need and Stan Cronkey and Sean Bay potentially or Brett Veach and the Hunt family that's Mickey Mouse Joe Shane smiling the underlings are uncomfortably looking down the owner's got his hand on his face and Joe Shane's answer is well I don't really know if Lachlan Murdoch who owns this

company was in my morning meeting and said I'd be really uncomfortable if you didn't talk about soccer a lot today you know what my lead would be soccer read the room, read the owner. Like, the bottom line is maybe Mara created some of this stuff because he wanted to resign Daniel Jones, and I don't think anybody else in the world wanted to in New York. But I watch the Giants here, and there is a disconnect between owner and GM, and I'm uncomfortable watching it. You ever watch Jeopardy when there's three people on there and two are really smart and

one isn't and one's getting crushed, and you're kind of uncomfortable for the person getting crushed? Like, I'm uncomfortable watching Joe Shane there. Like, uh, bro, you got to have answers. When billionaires walk into rooms, if I know I'm going to have a member of the Murdoch family in a room I'm in, I prep for it. Even if it's over a glass of wine and a brief 90-second conversation, I'm ready to roll. If that's what the GM owner conversations look like, well, my source is tap.

I don't know if that's true. So you don't know anything. You're the GM. You don't really know anything. And that's the owner. And it's so predictable for Joe Shane and the Giants. Sequin's going to go crush in Philadelphia. He's great player.

Howie Roseman is just working the Giants. He gets a great player and he's going to create angst inside that Giants building all season because you know he's going to go to New York and rush for 120 yards and two touchdowns and the back page of the New York Post is going to be oh no Joe but I'm sorry

watching this thing with the New York Giants I have no confidence in this organization none I mean you could you can see the underling you can see the assistants in the chair they don't want to make eye contact with anybody everybody's uncomfortable in that room

that is J. Mack hates the Giants so he's probably laughing at this, but that, I can't watch that and have a great deal of confidence about the hierarchy with the New York Giants. Can't. I just, I don't even know Joe Shane, but I'm watching that thing and I, that is people don't want to look up.

One guy's covering his head, the other guy's smiling uncomfortably, not good. Speaking of not good, the Raiders had Josh Jacobs, and they have Max Crosby and Devante Adams, three great players. Josh Jacobs is now leaving, and he's going to the greenerable. Green Bay Packers.

And Josh Jacobs has made the rounds, the former Alabama star, and he'll be a big time star in Green Bay, was lamenting on a podcast about being a raider for a few years. I remember coming to the league and losing my first game, and I was mad, not talking to nobody in a vet come up to me, and, like, this NFL, like, you don't lose. I'm like, y'all cool with losing. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it was so different. And then the most frustrating thing about it all, I feel like, especially when you got like me, you know, Tay and Max, you got guys that come in every day and work hard and you don't get the results.

You'd be close, but every year you close, but it's not, you know, it's not winning. You know, I've said this before. It always makes me happy when I see somebody that works really, really hard. I'll get called by people in my industry or I see athletes get drafted. by really stable organizations because I've been very lucky in my career that I've worked overwhelmingly for really good companies, stable financially. I had two years in Tampa, and it was an absolute circus. I mean, I could go on for hours. Our general manager at the time once told people not to park in a certain parking lot,

and two days later he had his Porsche parked sideways taking up four spots. it was a circus. Employees, bosses hitting on employees at Christmas parties, people getting fired left and right, a weatherman who dressed up a dog in dresses on the set. Five o'clock news at one point was on a couch that I kept falling off of because it was too slippery.

I wish I was making it up. It was a disaster. A lot of good employees, though, but you couldn't do your best work as an employee because management was a revolving door full of clowns. there's only so much you can do. People I work with was great. The reporters were great and the anchors were great and the producers were great.

And the people at the desk were great. And that's the Raiders. And Josh Jacobs is telling you this is what it's like to be in a dysfunctional organization. I mean, Green Bay is going to be Disneyland, lush gardens, functional, smiling employees. The Raiders are that carnival that shows up and they host it in your high school party. working lot. And one of the Carney says before you get on the Tiltow whirl, I wouldn't sit in that chair. We've had some problems with it. Raider fans are so odd and delusional. They get very angry because they're all over the country. And they're always asking you, how do you think the Raiders

will do this year? I don't know. They're in a division with Andy Reed, Sean Peyton and Jim Harbaugh, Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert, and a very promising rookie name Bo Nix was 61 college starts. And the Raiders have a defensive head coach who has $28 million in financial debt because of car dealership things gone sideways. He's an interim coach, a former player who's never been a full-time head coach. And again, Andy Reid twice a year, Sean Payton, twice a year, Jim Harbaugh twice a year, Mahomes, Justin Herbert. and potentially a really good college quarterback turning pro, Bo Nix. I don't like the Raiders. They've been over 500, two times in 21 years.

The ownership is poor, the division's good, their quarterback's a journeyman. I don't think it's good. And I'm really happy for Josh Jacobs that he goes to an organization that in the last 20 years in Green Bay has made the playoffs 14 times, and do you know how hard that is? this isn't college football where the good programs go to bowls almost every year. In the NFL, half the playoff teams annually don't make it the following year. And the Packers 14 times in 20 years, Super Bowls included, that's really hard to do. So for anybody out there, sometimes I think fans don't quite understand that the NFL's

little bit like your life. There's only so much you can overcome if you've got poor ownership and bad bosses. There's only so much you can do. Josh Jacobs, best running back in the country in high school, first or second best college

running back is going to crush in Green Bay. With the Raiders, he was really good, but the dysfunction he constantly had to overcome. Muddled leadership is just a killer for employee morale and momentum.

So I'm always happy when people who work hard land in a spot, good ownership, smart executive leadership. I've said this before. When anybody ever calls in my business, I always say there's a sea of money. Don't chase it. Chase good management. There's a finite amount.

So that, if you're a fantasy football player, my take is with a very young talented offensive line, Matt Lefleur, Jordan Love, an excellent tight-end receiver depth. Josh Jacobs is going to crush. He is going. There's not a great, there's not that many great defenses in the NFC. He, I mean, even the good teams like Detroit and Green Bay don't have great defenses. Rams is a young defense. It's not great.

San Francisco is getting older on defense. Josh Jacobs for the Packers is going to crush, and I can't wait for it. Happy for the kid. J-Mack, now it's time to talk about your Jets. Wait a minute. So much for Glass Half-Full Wednesday. You just start out bashing the Giants and the Raiders to dumpster fires. I love it.

That's right in my wheelhouse. Very excited. Now there's a story about the New York Jets. I don't like to be negative guy. I've got a nice shirt on, nice clean shirt on it. It's a very optimistic shirt. My shirt is a light, almost a pinkish color. It's like bright.

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They got a podcast, Scoop City. And underreported, but this is Diana Rusini, this podcast, this podcast, one of the the things noted here is that the New York Jets and Aaron Rogers was given a heads up on this, is that they contacted Arthur Smith, who the Steelers hired as an offensive coordinator, who could come to the Jets and potentially be part of the play-calling process with Nathaniel Hackett. Now, I want you to think about that. Name the last NFL team that won a Super Bowl that had to babysit. sit one of their coordinators.

The Jets literally had to bring on a second offensive senior member to help with the play calling for the offensive coordinator. A lot of people in MySpace are afraid to get called out. They'll soft pedal opinions. They play it safe. And they don't want to be honest, especially about big market teams that have very large and loud fan bases. But we have to be honest about the New York.

York Jets. They're an 8, 9, 10 win. They're an 8-9 win team. Tops. That's the top. And I could see six and seven easily. When you look at their schedule, that looks like the biggest break, right? When you look at their schedule, that's what everybody points to. But opening at San Francisco with a rebuilt O line is a potential nightmare. The next four weeks, weeks two through five, It's Tennessee, New England, Denver, Minnesota, three at home. That looks really, really comfortable. But Tennessee will probably, after losing on the road, play with urgency in their home opener, and the Jets are on a short week.

And the Minnesota game really isn't at home. It's in London, and those games are always weird. That's not as easy as you think. In the end of the season, they end with Tua, Trevor Lawrence, Matt Stafford, Josh Allen, and Tua again. You can go one and four in those easily. Those could be shootouts for a beat-up Jets defense that's been on the field too long. Just think about this.

All the optimistic soft peddling on the Jets. And again, I think they're an eight, nine win team, but I think that's the top. There is no 13, 12, 11, I don't think at all. Just think about this. I'm going to give you characteristics of a team. And then I'll unveil the team. So let's put this up for our television audience. Characteristics of a team.

Excellent young coach. Ascending star quarterback. Variety of strong weapons. Great left tackle and prime. No clear-cut favorite in their division. That is the Houston Texans. Do we think they're going to be a 12 or 13 win team? There's a lot of people.

C.J. Stroud, sophomore slump. They're still very, very young at a lot of. of spots. That's a team we have hoped for, but they're not Buffalo or Kansas City or San Francisco, Detroit. Here's another team. I'll throw another one out there.

Elite Super Bowl winning win head coach. Star quarterback still elite. Dependable weapons. Four top draft picks on the defensive front last two years. Very stable organization. That's the L.A. Rams. and everybody is like, I'm not sure.

Texas and Rams, all those things are musts for Super Bowl teams. Now let's go to the Jets. Let's think about what the Jets are. An unproven defensive head coach that's lost two out of three games he's coached. A 40-year-old prickly quarterback coming off a major injury. A rebuilt O-line with an old left tackle. an offensive coordinator that you need a babysitter for, an incredibly impulsive and shaky ownership.

Oh yeah, in the tougher conference with a dominant number one team in their division that's won at four straight, with arguably the most talented quarterback in the league. And you want me to embrace this as an 11, 12, 13 win team? The Texans and the Rams people like. But I hear, well, C.J. Stroud's Young, Stafford's old, Texans' ownership,

well, the defensive players for the Rams, they're really unproven, though Kobe Turner was actually semi-dominant for a rookie third-round defensive tackle. I'm not buying the Jets. People are afraid because it's New York, it's a big fan base, people in the media don't want the blowback. Well, their defense, six of the top 10 defenses in the NFL last year, six of the top 10, either did not make the playoffs or did not win a playoff game. If you're relying on your defense to carry you, it ain't happening.

It's an offensive league. The Niners can't stop anybody. San Francisco last couple of years, they'll, they'll, They'll play a Kansas City in a big spot. Kansas City's hot knife through butter against them. You're not winning the Super Bowl and the defensive side. Go look at the coaches ending up in the Super Bowl last three or four years.

They're all offensive guys. So I'll say it. Eight, nine wins, tops for the Jets with a real possibility of six or seven wins based on the health of Aaron and the offensive line. And I do not believe

that's negative. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. When you frame it that way, they're in deep trouble. But I will say the market disagrees with you. I saw Jets 12 or 13 games, depending on where you're shopping.

They're favorite. All right? They're not favored like Alabama in the Sabin Dynasty thing. That doesn't happen in the NFL. Come on. I think that I really do think the second game of the year is fascinating, because you're going to go to San Francisco cross-country flight, and probably get your teeth kicked in.

Maybe, we'll see. Remember, old offensive line and old offensive linemen. How are they old in week? Well, Tyron Smith, older offensive linemen, veterans do not play in the preseason. So September, especially week one, what team has more dependable veterans returning? San Francisco over the jets. And it's in home, and it's a 3,000 mile flight. So it's not a good one.

Then you go back home, and on a short week and flying back home, you go back on the road, Tennessee home with a new offensive coach, elevated weapons. Everybody's got that as a W. That is a 2017 game either way. We'll see. Tennessee Titans. I am not going to bet on Niners Jets. Remember last year, I think I went four and one in week one,

but the miss was, give me the Steelers, over the 49ers. And it was like 28-0-0. You know, I told you this. I was so disappointed. So I told you this year, and I've already told management, I'm not doing blazing five in week run. No, I already told you. told you guys. I don't care. You could say that now. Then we get closer to the scene. Oh, I love this. I love it. I love it.

I know. But I'm not going to count it because last year I went 0 and 5 because nobody's playing any of their starters in the preseason. So the Blazing 5 isn't for me. It's for the audience. I've had people my whole life that come up. People come up to me for more than any other thing to want to talk about the Blazing 5. Out of everything I do, all the takes. Number one. Well, people bet it. So I'm not going to throw out a bet when last year, I had no idea in week one what the hell I was watching. Nobody's playing in the preseason. So I'm going to start in week two. And that look at my staff. You guys, it'd be nice. You know, it'd be nice if I had some support on the staff. So, you know, I do the contest in Vegas. When you pick games every week, you can win like five million bucks

or whatever. So one of the guys who runs the contest has been reaching out to me, hey, does cowherd want to do it with you this season? And I'm like, I'll talk to And we'll see. Listen, you can basically give your blazing five to the contest every week. It'd be part of it and win a lot of money. I don't know. You know what? I'm loyal to the herd and my audience, not some flimsy contest with you and one of your shakedown artists.

This is a big contest in Vegas. Anyways, let's start with the chiefs. They enter training camp looking to defend the Super Bowl crown. And they're trying to be the first three Pete winners in the Super Bowl era. Kansas City's offense inconsistent last year. Mahomes looking to work out the kink. before the season starts this time around. Time to get better. Every season starts different. You got to come out of that same

mentality you had the year before, even a higher intensity. And even though we won the Super Bowl last year, we felt like we didn't play our best football, especially offensively. It wasn't fun. I mean, all the, every single week having to try to just continue to get better and better and results not paying off the way you wanted to. It wasn't a lot of fun. We have a lot of those same guys back and they know how that felt. And so we're going to try to prepare ourselves better this year so that we can play better throughout the season. And obviously he's trying to end with the same result. Well, if Xavier Worthy, the first round receiver, if he hits...

It all hinges on Zinger-worthy. Well, no, I mean, but if he hits, because Rishi Rice, you can't trust. He's too immature. You just can't trust him. I mean, I'm sorry. He's just... Marquise Hollywood Brown. You can trust him. Go ask Arizona. Listen, they won a Super Bowl last year with a lousy passing game. Now, lousy?

Lousy? It was the worst offensive season of Mahomes in the Chiefs era. There's no question. So I'm saying Xavier Worthy if it hits. that if they won a Super Bowl with that receiving core last year, they just need one guy. Rishie Rice has a lot of promise, but he's just, and I'm sure he'll make plays. Define hits for worthy. What is he going to catch? 35 balls? Come on. No, no, no, no. I think he, if he ends

up being an electric performer, 65 to 70 catches, three or four touchdowns, but he is absolutely a chain mover that he can get first downs. I don't think he's that guy. He's a straight line, speedy guy, and maybe Reed can scheme up some stuff to get him the ball in space, but he's not like an elite route runner coming from this great route tree. No, he's not.

I told you, I'm very dubious on Xavier Worth. Yeah. He is tiny. And Hollywood Brown is the other guy who, hit and miss at times. I don't know, man. It's tough to bet against the Chiefs now. They're becoming like the Patriots with Brady and their prime.

Like, you're an idiot if you go against him. But I will say they're not winning the Super Bowl this year. Now, maybe get there. I wouldn't make him the favorite. Why not? The Niners and Brock Purdy are the favorite. Next story is the Cowboys. Boy, they got their three main stars,

still uncertain futures. Dax, C.D. Lamb and Micah Parsons. Well, how about this? In a recent TV appearance, Hall of Famer and three-time Super Bowl champ, Charles Haley, addressed Jerry Jones' approach to the salary cap and suggested a big-time trade for the Cowboys.

He kept back-loaning everything. So now he screamed. So now he, you know, hey, you know, Bill came. do. And he doesn't have the money to be able to do that. And so what he's going to have to do is he's going to have to find another way around the saddle cap. Trade that. Just put him up for the trade. Guess what? Every team in the league be after. Yeah. Every team in the league. Dak is a winner. Dak is a great person, a great leader. I know him. I go up there all the time.

Yeah, every team in the league would not be after him. Yeah. What's he talking about? Yeah, I mean, he'd have a very tiny market. I love it how he's like, hey, trade Dak. He's a great leader and a great person. Let's trade him. Let's get him out. What? Kirk Cousins is both, but they wanted to move off him. I don't disagree.

You could. I mean, I'll give you an example. The Giants need a quarterback, and the Raiders need a quarterback, and Tennessee might. There's three teams that will buy for Dak Prescott, because Dak gives you continuity. He's Kirk Cousins. That's why I say Kirk Cousins to Atlanta, they have a good old line. They're looking for.

stability after the last several years. DAC provides maturity and stability, and that for a team like the Raiders, that is, I mean, if Drake May doesn't show you something, are we sure in one year from now so they don't move off Drake May and do, Dak? He'll have a market, but it's not, it's going to be very, very small. I don't. At his number, it's small. I'll toss it out.

Aaron Rogers has a mediocre year. he's can't, he just, you know, he's old. And that's a wrap for Aaron Rogers. He's done. Do the Jets chase Dack Prescott saying, you know what? We've got all these young guys. We're not paying Sauce Gardner. We're not paying Garrett Wilson, Breezo.

We just need a quarterback to get us in the promise league. And Dack Prescott makes sense to the Jets. Yeah, I don't think. Go look at organizations that need stability. Raiders, Jets, Giants. That's what, that's really the secret sauce with Dak. Smart, adult, authentic, real, stable. Runner up for the MVP award last year.

Productive. Now, do I think at his number he's going to win you a Super Bowl? No, I don't think at his number Tua will. But Tua is a grown-up. He's smart. He's good at the podium. Tua is a really nice guy. Is Trevor Lawrence winning a Super Bowl at $55 million a year?

I think he's got much more talent than both. Well, that, yeah. But that's what we're talking about here. So, again, the number for my quarterback, not everybody, I was told this years ago by a general manager in this league with a Super Bowl, not every owner is about winning. It's about getting attention. It's about business. It's business, yeah. And so, DAC doesn't have a huge market, but like Kirk Cousins, you know this year Atlanta's going to win 10 games up.

We thought the Saints were last year. No, no, no, no, no. Well, Kirk Cousins is significantly better than Derek Carr. That's not, let's not get into that space. Let's not go look at the, Dak and Kirk Cousins are a notch above Derek Carr. Dak and Kurt Cousins are the same guy. One's got a star in the helmet.

But what they're both great at is consistency. They're not chaotic. They don't say stupid crap at the microphone. They're, you know, so there is a market. It's not big for Kirk Cousins or Dack. But when you provide stability at that organization, that is huge, huge. Final story is the NBA. Yesterday, we talked about the Warriors and Lowry Markinan of the Jazz, a potential link-up.

Maybe there's a trade. However, something's going on in this trade. I'm just telling you, the Warriors and Jazz are really going back and forth. Because in a recent podcast appearance, Warriors owner, Joe Lekub explained why you can't just trade away all the young talent to win for Steph Curry. You're assuming that by trading all of your emerging young players, potentially young stars, that you are going to be better. We run analytic models on all that stuff. We will make a deal that makes us better.

Aviata is that we can't bankrupt the team in an unbelievably dumb way for a decade. You can't bankrupt the entire team's future to go for one year because it's very, very hard to win. Even if we have the best team, you can sustain an injury. So within reason, we're going to always try to do whatever we can to win now, not just for Steph. Yeah, he's absolutely right. Lori Markinen for Kaminga, Moody, and Picks is a really good move. You throw in pods, it's a bad move. Because if you have marketing, averaging 22, Steph 27, pods up to 15, Dremont's Dremon, Wiggins can give you 16, then that's a really good team with a great coach.

Well, that's a good starting lineup. And then you have like no bench whatsoever. And Curry's 36. But you're not paying pods. You're not, you know, there's Lori Marketing can be a really nice two to three. Draymond and Steph are the soul of the team. But if Pods makes a leap, and I think he will to about 14 a game, and I think he's going to make that leap.

And marketing gives you 23. That's a good basketball team. So here's the problem. The Lakers and LeBron get bashed, right? Because, you know, what are they, is LeBron improving the team? Come on, are they getting better? And it's like, I don't know, are the Warriors improving the team for Steph Curry? Shouldn't the Warriors be bashed?

Are they trying to get Curry another title? No, because the Warriors have several rings in the last decade. So this is how dynasties age. You can bang on Belichick and Brady the last year or two. It wasn't as pretty, right, or how it ended. But they won so many trophies. It was worth it. Wait, last four years, LeBron has one title, Kurt.

Well, bad years in a row, and then LeBron wins a bubble title, and they do wobble into the Western Conference Finals, but they've overwhelmingly not been in the trophy room enough. Well, again, you go back five, six years, I don't care. Like, you look at recent history. Last couple years, Lakers have been contending, and so have the Warriors, and now neither of them looks like a contender. But there are things that the Warriors have, the Lakers don't. If they had Lori Marketing, you'd have four really good players. Dremont, Steph, Pods and Lori Marketing.

Time out. I know he's your boy. Is Dremont a really good player still, Colin? He's a great player. Right now. Yes. Still a great player. He is.

Okay. Go look at the analytics. Now the analytics. So when the Brock Pernie discussion turns out of analytics, now when it gets to Draymond, look at the analytics. This is why I love working with you, man. It's fun.

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They want to live in this country in Miami. They want to live in New York. live in L.A. And Rinaldo, you know, he wants to maybe live in Spain or go to one of the top teams. People with options don't want to live everywhere. Most people don't have those options. The NFL is different. Careers are shorter. The power is not with the players. It's with organizations. Same with hockey. But in baseball, the free agents, they're going to the Dodgers or the Yankees or maybe the well-heeled Atlanta Braves because they have options. The NBA sometimes struggles with that your best players want to play in certain places get

over it you market them you promote them you make them international global stars live with the repercussions so Adam silver however and I like Adam but he likes the NBA to be smushed all to the middle it's called sports socialism let's give everybody a fighting chance even though LeBron would never play in 27 of the NBA cities. Adam Silver has created and the owners an apron. It's confusing and complex, but dynasties, forget it. Big trades, really hard. Boston may be the last stack team we ever see until this CBA is over. And why every other sports ratings are climbing from F1 to UFC to women's basketball, March Madness, WNBA, NFL college football, the NBA, the NBAs are in

a very steady decline. You're a star-driven sport. Lean into the stars. Here's Adam Silver on the new apron. What I'm hearing from teams, even as the second apron is moving to kick in, I think the teams are realizing they're real teeth in those provisions. Reports have come out that the summer was boring from a fan standpoint. I don't certainly think it was, and we still saw a lot of critical really important players moving from one team to another as free agents but at the same time I think that's this new system that while I don't want it to be boring I want to put teams in a position 30 teams to better compete the NFL's not a star-driven sport players will play anywhere they'll play in Green Bay it's not the NBA understand

what you are do you know the popular the NBA's ever been, the bird magic era, where they met in the finals virtually every year for 12 years, the MJ dominant bulls, and the Kobe Shack years. Three dynasties in three big cities, Boston, Chicago, and L.A. You could throw in the Warriors. San Francisco is a big glitzy tech city, and the Warriors' ratings were better than the current last six years. stars. International soccer, Argentina, Brazil, England, that's who people want to watch.

That's why the Euro and Copa ratings at Fox were through the roof. England flourish. Spain was dominant. Argentina, big brands. That's what international soccer is. The English Premier League, they have no problem acknowledging

some teams have way more money than other teams. Dodgers, Yankees, got a lot of great players. That's where the money's at. So this idea that's smushing everybody to the middle, the other thing you get out of dynasties is that you know what you make sports documentaries and write books about? Dynasties. A dynasty pays you not only in the moment, but pays you 10, 20, 30, 40 years later. Nobody talks about the 70s NBA.

We still talk about burden magic. We still talk about Shaq and Kobe. We're doing 10-part documentaries on Michael Jordan. There'll be documentaries on KD, Steph, Clay, Draymond. You're not getting that in the Denver Nuggets if they win one championship. Everybody wants parity. College football in the 70s reduced scholarships. So teams like USC and Ohio State couldn't stockpile talent.

Yeah, it really worked. Alabama just won six titles in 15 years. We have higher tax rates than we've ever had. That's going to make everybody more. even yet the gap between the richest Americans and the poorest has never been wider some people are smarter more driven more focused more disciplined some GMs the Rams the chiefs are better than other GMs the ones in New York you can't legislate everything I don't get the parity argument let there be a

natural flow of commerce more people want to live in big cities by water, L.A., San Francisco, New York, Boston. You know, fewer people want to live in Kansas City. It's not my opinion. Those are just, those are the numbers. So everybody's college sports, everybody's reduced this, mush them to the middle. I do not think the NBA is more embraceable

with a different champion every year. I think it's best for the NBA if the Celtics win next year and a year after and form perhaps the last great dynasty. Big brand, big city, big wins. That's the NBA. The audience clearly likes. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.

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