The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Colin compares Josh Allen's superhero performance in a losing effort against the Rams to what Patrick Mahomes did in walk off win over the Chargers Thoughts on Juan Soto signing with the Mets and why ...this is great for MLBSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:19 Matt Hasselbeck will stop by, as is customary on this show. J. Mack, I am so glad that we got the Bills and the Rams followed by I mean, talk about two great quarterback performances, followed by two other great quarterbacks, Kansas City and the Chargers, because let America see who's wasting talent and who's not. Ooh, that's a spicy team. So let's talk about that. Josh Allen had the greatest day ever for a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Three passing touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns. It hadn't been done in a long time. And the bills lost. Of course they did because they've been wasting Josh Allen's talent forever. I mean, the Rams had almost 31st downs. We're 11 of 15 on 3rd, almost perfect in the red zone. 38 minutes, time of possession. They dominated that.
Starting point is 00:04:05 The Bills had a punt blocked. Stafford did whatever he wanted. You ever consider rolling coverage over on Puka? It can't look that easy if you're Matt Stafford. Was that the Bill's scout team? Listen, Josh Allen is the greatest quarterback talent I've ever seen. He's better than Lway. He's better than Mahomes as a talent.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Andrew Luck, couldn't do that. 6-6, huge arm, 255, and produce 400-plus yards. Again, he's done it 11 times. And you know what his record is in those games? 5 and 6. This franchise continues to let him down. Baham's has the better coach and the trophies and is the second most talented quarterback in this league.
Starting point is 00:04:51 But if you give Patrick Mahomes or he gives you six touchdowns, Kansas City wins. There are games he can give you one touchdown on a pick, and Kansas City wins. Josh Allen, how many times are we going to see this? He literally is jaw-dropping. There's nothing you can do. He didn't scramble for nine yards. He'll scramble for 39. He doesn't throw at 40 yards on a line.
Starting point is 00:05:18 He throws at 58 yards on a line. He's a jaw-dropping once in a lifetime talent. He had four touchdowns and no picks once against this Kansas. City Chiefs team, which I'll show in a minute, and lost. Of course he did. Now, I'm looking at his numbers. It is just a total waste of his talent. And you can blame whoever you want.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I like the owner, GM Sharp, Sean McDermick's good, but I've compared him to Chuck Knox. Legendary bounce around coats that won everywhere, but couldn't get the trophy. Josh Allen is four and five. That is it in games in which he produces 400-plus yards. You know what Mahomes' record is in those games? 14 and 2. Ball game. Ball game.
Starting point is 00:06:01 They are wasting his talent. Yes, don't get me wrong. Matt Stafford, we've been saying this for years. He is and was an all-time passing talent. He's what Aaron Rogers wishes he was the last three years. He was better in high school and college than Aaron. He's better now than Aaron. He was better for the first three to four years in the league than Aaron.
Starting point is 00:06:23 But he ended up in Detroit. McVeigh's like, get me that guy. They did. He's magical when he's upright. If they can protect him, he's one of the only guys in the league that can go toe to toe with Josh Allen. Wow to wow to wow to wow. 76% completion percentage, 132 pass rating. But it can't look that easy. I mean, the Rams were making Josh Allen throw in tiny windows, making him run around.
Starting point is 00:06:48 That Rams defense is young, talented, fast, athletic. They were making Josh Allen work for it. Matt Stafford, it was like a summer drill. It was seven-on-seven football. So the kid is absolutely jaw-dropping, and I feel terrible for him. Because they've got to do something. When he puts the cape on, Mahomes is 14 and 2, and he is 4 and 5. And again, it's not like the Rams defense doesn't have talent.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Their last couple, two, three drafts, they've spent it on defensive guys up front, and you can see them. but Allen's ability to cut through it is remarkable and yet he loses again in this time to an inferior team here is Sean McVeigh the winning coach after Josh Allen is an alien some of the stuff that he can do and the things that he can create we knew he was capable of that he's shown that
Starting point is 00:07:45 it's why he is you know as well respected and regarded in this league as he is it's all deserved and earned but our guys found a way to just make enough plays to be able to come out on top. Now I'd like to talk about a team that doesn't waste their quarterback's talent. The Kansas City Chiefs who just won their ninth straight AFC West title. Now, they were facing Justin Herbert, who was so hot in the second half. He went forever until he had an incompletion. The pass rush for the Chargers was giving Mahomes fits.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Jim Harbaugh made tweaks at halftime. Quentin Johnson, the receiver, redeemed himself. I mean, the Chargers put up a fight. I've said this all year. The Chargers feel like a little bit of a poor man's chiefs, coach, quarterback, pass rush, just enough weapons. And they were missing their best back and probably their best receiver. And yet, did anybody doubt, Reed Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, would figure out a way to win it in the fourth quarter. If you keep delivering on earnings day as a CEO, it's not luck.
Starting point is 00:08:51 It's a business model. you don't do anything 10, 15 times. They're 10 and 0 in one score games. 15 straight wins in one score games. That is beyond luck. That is efficiency. Luck, luck is like a bad team doing it two times in a row. Luck isn't a dynasty doing it 15 times in a row.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Some people are smarter. They're more clutch. Kansas City, even the doinks work in their favor. But when they called that play on the side, sidelines and Reed, Nagy, and Mahomes go over, and they're talking. They've done this now 15 straight times. Losers call winners lucky. I'm sure Caroline and the Bears are like, what a lucky team. Winners get how hard it is. Mahomes, look at Kelsey sitting down. That is a designed play. They manipulated and toyed with a defense who's very good. And once again, Kansas
Starting point is 00:09:50 city, they've rebuilt the O line. They've rebuilt the defense. They've two times rebuilt the receiving core for Mahomes. And they ask Mahomes a couple of times a game to jump into the phone booth and put on the
Starting point is 00:10:06 Superman cape. A couple times a game. The bills asked Josh Allen to put on the cape right before the anthem starts. He has to come dressed as Superman. Because they'll have a punt blocked. or Matt Stafford will have a seven-on-seven drill against them.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And this is what I love. I'll say this about New England. In Brady's Prime, they didn't always have the best roster. But I said this two months ago. Kansas City has become a more clever, offensive version of what New England was. Was it lucky when New England for 20 years kept winning all those close games? No, it's a business model. They're just smarter.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I've had multiple players and executives. They would practice things in New England all summer long. all summer long, call it once in November. They were just more prepared. And when Mahomes and Reed and Nagy are on that sideline, it's like, yeah, it's a third down, it's over. They're going to get it. And again, they ask Mahomes occasionally to put on the cape.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Josh Allen has to wear it to the game. Four and five is Josh Allen in games in which he's Superman. Mahomes is 14 and 2. and I love they were juxtaposed. I love that you got Josh Allen against the great quarterback playing out of his mind and losing and Mahomes playing against the great quarterback with a team that's kind of ham and egg and it at left tackle. They brought a guy in, he got hurt. And yet winning, efficiency, smart, doing anything multiple times over and over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:11:44 It's not luck. Luck is a scratch-off ticket. it. Luck is a losing company having a good earnings quarter. Yeah, Navidia doing another big day for Navidia stock is not luck. They're ahead of the industry. And that's what Kansas City is and what New England was, and here's my home's after. As long as we have a chance to go out there and have the football and make a play happen, I feel like we're going to make it happen. To be able to win this division,
Starting point is 00:12:11 to gain another game in the playoff pitcher, it was an important game for us gets a really good football team. We found a way to get a win. But now we've got to keep building if we want to get to our ultimate goal. I actually thought that was one of the three or four best losses of the year for the Chargers. They didn't have their best receiver. They didn't have their best back. And Herbert, they made adjustments at halftime. Herbert had, I think, 10 straight completions. They had opportunities to win the game. They made a couple of key defensive plays. But it's just, it's very difficult when you're facing the best quarterback.
Starting point is 00:12:46 along with Josh Allen Mahalms, the best coach, the best tight end, and a team that's situationally, I mean, I don't know how you guys watch these games. I always feel like, yeah, they'll figure it out. That confidence, the Chiefs even, you know, their confidence doinks in the winner. It's just who they are. It defines them. A hundred years from now, you will talk about the Kansas City Chiefs. And you'll look at the records and you're like, you're like, man, they want a lot of close games.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yes, because that's what happens when you eventually have to pay your quarterback $450 million. That you aren't very good at offensive tackle. That you have to make mid-season moves. That you really don't have a number one receiver. That your tight end's getting old. He's good in spots, but not for the duration of the season. That's what happens. But Kansas City always figures a way to make it work.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And Buffalo never does. And I don't think that's just some zany coincidence. All right, 50 minutes from now. Colin right, Colin wrong, Matt Hasselback stops by as well. And I've got to tell you, it's a great problem to have, but there is an NFL team that has themselves a dilemma. They didn't think it was going to be, they didn't think it would turn out as well as it has. It's better than anybody in the league thought it would be, and now they're kind of stuck,
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Starting point is 00:18:20 He didn't have a lot of juice, right? He didn't have a lot of athleticism. A gentleman's gentleman, and he could get you to the playoffs. And then draft J.J. McCarthy, who lights it up in preseason gets hurt. So they brought over Sam Darnold from the Niners, and you'll find Kyle Shanahan loves Darnold, Kevin O'Connell loves Darnold, McVease. A lot of the smart coaches really like that. him, even though he struggled. Carolina, bad coaching, Jets, bad coaching. So I get why they drafted
Starting point is 00:18:48 J.J. McCarthy, but he needed a second surgery on his meniscus, on his knee, swelling, a second one. Darnold's already bigger than him and has a better arm than him and is just as athletic or more than him. And I said this coming out of the draft, Darnold's comp, there's a little bit of an Andrew Luck, is that he can be a tad reckless, but aggressive, coachable, tough, physical playmaker, big arm. And Sam Darnold right now, five touchdowns, no picks. He's entered the MVP conversation. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:19:22 What are you going to do with him? He's a free agent. Are you going to let him walk? And you have J.J. McCarthy and Daniel Jones. Take out Josh Allen. Arguably the best football player in the entire sport yesterday was Sam Darnold. You're going to let him walk out of the best. building? I think you have to consider franchise tagging him. It's like 41 million bucks for a year.
Starting point is 00:19:47 That's more than they want to pay. But on the market, isn't Sam Darnold going to get close to that anyway? I mean, I think they were hoping J.J. McCarthy after Sam Darnold started the year could maybe take over at Thanksgiving or next year. But what do you do with this? Are you going to let a potential top five MVP guy walk out of the building? I wouldn't. the receivers love him. They didn't love Kirk Cousins. I mean, in the two teams that beat Minnesota, Detroit and the Rams, he was great. 77% completion percentage and 117 passer rating.
Starting point is 00:20:25 He's had a couple of stinkers this year, but they won both of them. I mean, his third down efficiency yesterday, 8 for 12, 8 yards of play, 23 first downs. Be very careful about letting great employees walk out the door, especially off a great year. I mean, Darnold, he's getting better. I mean, the Jacksonville game, they were bad in the red zone, but they won. Yeah, he lost the Rams and the Lions, but he was outstanding, completing almost 80% of his throws. It shows a lot of things. I mean, here's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:20:56 It hasn't been perfect. They lost their great left tackle. No biggie, he's won six straight. So it's not been a perfect road. Jordan Addison's been hurt. T.J. Hawkinson's been missing. They lost their left tackle. Aaron Jones run game.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Not a ton of pop. And they just keep winning. So I think you have to consider it. This was always a good team and a good franchise. But there is no question. Darnold has added juice and energy and playmaking and athleticism. And I mean, and the crowd started chanting MVP, and I think you have to put him in that top five category.
Starting point is 00:21:35 And here was Darnold on those chants. I just felt the buzz. and that was pure, you know, pure passion, you know, pure joy. That was a lot of emotion for me. I was just excited, man. Just, I feel like I couldn't just sit there, you know, and just kind of, you know, stoic and, you know, just straight-faced. I feel like I had to show a little bit of emotion for the fans and, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:00 gave them what they wanted. So that was a special moment for me. Donald in the fourth quarter, close game, three big scoring drives. He had three touch. In the second half, he only had two incompletions. And here was the big Justin Jefferson touchdown. Scambling to his right. I mean, that really is.
Starting point is 00:22:19 That's what he does. That's Sam Darnold, the playmaker. Breaks down, running right, deep downfield. That element did not exist with Kirk Cousins. And they were making the playoffs with Kirk Cousins. They were beaten Aaron Rogers 50% of the time with Kirk Cousins. Good stuff. J. Mack with the news.
Starting point is 00:22:37 No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's start the day with Kyle Shanahan, who was the subject of a lot of rumors this past week about his future with the Niners. They were speculated upon by, I don't know, somebody on this show not named me. An NFL writer suggested the bears should look to trade for him. San Francisco snapped their three-game losing streak yesterday by destroying the bears.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And I mean pummeling them in an embarrassing fashion. And then afterwards, Shanahan talked about his future. in San Francisco. I don't want to be any place in the world more than here. And my family feels just as strong, if not a lot stronger. So, you know, I hope he's going to have to kick me out of here. So there's no way I'm making that decision. Just saying.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Go for it. Go ahead. Come on. And take that mulligan. Well, I mean, I will say this. When you're a franchise that's in disarray, the Chargers had good roster, but the coaching situation was amassed. You had to hire a culture guy.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Detroit was a mess. I hired a culture guy. San Francisco was never a mess, even when they had the wrong coach. It's smartly owned, well-run, mostly. So he's a scheme guy. I don't even know if he would be a perfect fit in Chicago. I think Jim Harbaugh is what they need. Chicago's such a mess.
Starting point is 00:23:57 The Jets are such a mess. That's why I think Mike Rable, either Jets or the Bears, works, because he's beyond a scheme guy. He fixes the culture. There's a physicality to it. Doesn't Shanahan work anywhere, Colin? Oh, I think he would work anywhere, but I'm saying his take is, why would I leave a well-owned and run operation? But I get Chicago getting on the phone.
Starting point is 00:24:17 You can't just go get Ben Johnson. You've done that. Matt Nagy made the playoffs twice, but he's not a culture changer. Chicago's in a different, the Jets in Chicago, it's beyond just getting a guy that can scheme up plays. I've softened my states. I'm looking at my notes for the numbers yesterday. So during games, you know, we take notes. I have at half time, it was 315 yards to four.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah. For the Niners against the Bears. Four yards in the first. I like didn't believe that. I was like, that can't be. So you fire your coach. You've got all this talent. Everybody's supposedly happy Iber Fuse was gone.
Starting point is 00:24:51 And you don't show up at all? I mean, Colin, this is a second straight game. Remember that Detroit game on Thanksgiving? They didn't show up in the first half. Detroit was dog walking. Wasn't it 21-0? Just embarrassing stuff. I'm kind of, I don't know what to do with the Bears.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I thought this was a good job. and they have a lot of talent? I'm starting to question that a little. They've asked Thomas Brown to go from like, you know, quarterback coach to play caller to head coach, you know, in three weeks. He's had three different parking spots at the facility in three weeks. So they're asking him to do way too much. I feel bad for that.
Starting point is 00:25:22 It's not his issue. It's Kevin Warren, the president. McCasky's the owner. The people I talk to in the league have always questioned the very top of the bears. I always said Matt Nagy got Mitch Trubon. Trubisky to the playoffs twice at a time that Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rogers, and Matt Stafford were in their prime in the division. He got Mitch Trubisky twice to the playoffs, and they ran him out of town.
Starting point is 00:25:48 You could say what you want about Matt Nagy. They were always offensively creative with a backup quarterback in a division that had three excellent quarterback, Hall of Fame-level guys. So it's even when they kind of feel like they sort of get it right, Dave Wanstatt had success there. They run people off. Did you think Purdy was extra motivated to go up against Caleb Williams and show who the best quarterback in that game was?
Starting point is 00:26:11 Because it was not close. It wasn't. Wait, wait, wait, go ahead. What are you going to say? There's a lot to contextualize when the Bears face the Niners. Did Trent Williams play? No, I don't think he did. Did Brandon and I, you play nine?
Starting point is 00:26:23 Christian McCaffrey, the backup running back? The third string guy got hurt, Colin? Let's not make excuses. Brock Purdy was so much better than Caleb. It was not even close. Well, yeah. Yeah, he was in that game. I'm glad you're just conceding that point.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Let's move on to, oh boy, I don't know. New York Giants, I mean, what is going on? Brutal. This is a banner flying over the game. Mr. Mara, enough, please fix this dumpster fire. Here's what Brian Daibel had to say about this banner after the game. Look, we're, you know, we won two games, so I'm not happy either. I'm disappointed.
Starting point is 00:27:00 We have two wins, Pat, so we're just going to keep on grind it out and try to keep developing. young players and, you know, get ready to play a great team next week. Yeah. I'd still keep him, but I think he's in trouble. I think the organization has the right coach, the right left tackle, the right edge rusher, the right defensive tackle, they got to get quarterback right, right tackle right, another running back. They need some offensive fixes. Conspiracy theory, you want one? Yeah. Daveo went to the owner and said, I will do a tank. Nobody will know we're tanking.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Just me and you do this. A lot of guys who are iffy are just not going to play. They're They're down to like practice squad guys on the offensive line. Yeah. And we will tank, we will get the number one pick, I will get you a quarterback, and I will turn this around. Do you think the owner will buy that? Well, if I was the owner privately, I wouldn't want the word tank used. Yeah, just, just you. I would think if my coach came to me and said, if you can assure me one more year,
Starting point is 00:27:53 I'm going to play some guys who deserve to be on film, and maybe I don't want to get some of our better players hurt. Yeah, I mean, right now there's a very large bottom of the NFL. eight really bad teams. You can talk the bears in there. There, too. Nine really bad teams, and the Bengals' defense is maybe the worst of all of them. Now, interestingly, the Raiders lost their quarterback yesterday. So now it's going to be Desmond Ritter against Drew Locke in a race to the bottom.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Both these teams circling the drain, Colin. Well, the Raiders or Giants, Raiders are feisty. They're in every game. Sederer Sanders will go number one. If you want a quarterback, it's going to be... Jalen Milrow won't go too. It'll be Cam Ward or I think Sam Darnold. Stop.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Well, I mean, who else? So I got to do my mock for Fox Sports. I reached out to a lot of people this weekend. I think you're on. I don't think Cam Ward's going to go to it. I like him a lot, but it doesn't sound like it's consensus. Oh, this guy's definitely going on. But Chador's Consensus won.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah, everybody says that. I don't, Sam Darnold back to New York. Really? I'm just telling you, Sam's going to have a market. Hey, how about this look? Can I give you a name? He faced the Giants yesterday. Derek Carr.
Starting point is 00:29:08 He got hurt. Probably sounds like he's done for the season. Is any fan base fired up for that? Are they fired up for Sam Darnold again? We've seen that. Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold indoors with Kevin O'Connell. First round, top five pick, USC.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I like him. I would not wish the Giants on Sam Darnel. By the way, they've missed the playoffs. 11 of the last 13 years. The Giants are a terrible franchise right now. They're rotten. Colin, 0 and 7 at home this year, averaging 10 points a game at home. I know.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I'm watching it too. It's unwatchable. And the kicker misses like a chip shot at the end. According to our guys here, the Giants have a 40% chance at the number one pick. That's pretty damn good to get Chador Sanders. I'll tell you, Chador in Vegas, and maybe Dion feels really, really cool. You know, Zach, the producer, is a big Raiders guy. He wants Shador badly.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Shadur apparently has some connection to the Raiders. Remember that Instagram story he did last week that we? said he put legendary, apparently he's been doing that every week. I don't follow him, so I don't know. What if he says, I don't want to go to the Giants, I want to go to the Raiders, where this legendary quarterback is part of an owner? Well, I think Shadur, I think the Raiders and the Giants both have pieces. I'd rather go to the offensive coach, but they both have pieces.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I'd rather go to Vegas. Final story, Colin Pittsburgh, Steelers. Got to 10 wins yesterday. They are now 6-1 with Russell Wilson under center. He did a pregame interview with Bill Cower and Russ talked about how he believes Pittsburgh has all the pieces in place to win the Super Bowl this season saying we got the right mentality, the right leadership, the right coach.
Starting point is 00:30:45 There's nobody better. We're all seeking number seven. He missed George Pickens though yesterday. Yeah, he did not look sharp. Yeah, this offense is a little like Philadelphia and A.J. Brown. It is not the same without a star receiver. By the way, Jalen, okay from the pocket. good athlete but needs A.J. Brown. Russell Wilson, good athlete, okay from the pocket.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Russell Wilson is not Matt Stafford in the pocket or Joe Burrell. That's not what he is. He and Jalen Hertz. Movement and a good team around them is part of it. And A.J. Brown not getting the ball in Philly. It's not the same offense. And George Pickens had a hamstring that popped Thursday or Friday. Like, I didn't, I mean, that offense was they gave Cleveland multiple opportunities and the Browns missed kick after kick. It felt like Philadelphia and Pittsburgh both took their foot off the gas, looking ahead to next week. Hey, Goddard, you're not feeling great? Sit out. Pickens, like, power down.
Starting point is 00:31:43 We need you next week. Pittsburgh, Philly this week, huge game. Quick word on James Winston, okay? I know the internet loves this guy. I think he's so amazing. His speeches are hilarious. Oh, he's a national treasure. Colin, James Winston is a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:31:57 it's just not a thing. He's not a good football player. No, he makes, he's not. You get way too much reckless. I mean, he's got a nice arm, but he is like Carson Wentz time six in the reckless department. Like he's just pick sixes and interception. It's a terrible decision.
Starting point is 00:32:16 You have to bake in. He's a bad decision. He's not a good quarterback. I know people love him and the internet thinks he's so cool. And they're rooting for him because of these silly speech. but gosh he's a bad quarterback. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And thanks for stopping by. The Hurdline News. Tweaking stuff, baseball's done a really good job of this, where they implement a pitch clock, the game is faster, they eliminate the defensive shift, like baseball has done itself very well the last several years. It's helped ratings and attendance. It's tweaking.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I don't want to overreact to the college football bracket. Okay, because it's the year one, of this. But what a bizarre mess this bracket was. Why did Oregon get punished for the best regular season and the best conference championship performance? They open
Starting point is 00:33:06 up with the winner of Ohio State Tennessee, then would face Texas, then potentially Georgia. That's the hardest route easily. They should be rewarded. Why does Penn State, which lost to Oregon and Ohio State, have a much easier route?
Starting point is 00:33:22 I don't understand. it. I mean, it's, I think, honestly, I think the committee was so paralyzed and concerned what to do with a cruddy loser of the Clemson SMU game. They're sitting there thinking, oh, Alabama, let's not reward the SEC. What are we going to do with SMU? How about nobody cares? Let's start with that. How about take care of Oregon? How about flip Ohio State and Penn State? How can you give Oregon that route and Penn State an easier route. Penn State gets to play SMU at home and then Boise State? I mean, you get it. So what you're basically saying is that the winner of the Mountain West, and for the record, I live out West, and I'm not sure what mountain they're talking
Starting point is 00:34:10 about, but the winner of the Mountain West is Trump's number two in the SEC. Give me a break. You've got to do what the NFL does and you have to recede it. And again, it's year one. I don't want to go crazy, but stop pandering to the ACC. They're lucky they get a team in. And I understood it. Like SMU, everybody's on TV, living in the moment. Oh, it's an unbelievable game with Clemson.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And I get why they went in. But the ACC getting two teams in and the SEC only getting three in. And again, I don't. think there's an argument for Bama that actually beat better teams and has better wins, but you can't, hey, Bama, you lost a bandy in Oklahoma, so deal with it. But the committee, giving Oregon that route is outrageous. It's just, here was Sark on the seeding issues from the committee. I just look to the NCAA tournament. You know, if you win your conference tournament,
Starting point is 00:35:14 you get an automatic bid into the tournament. But then there's seedings. right there's there's one seeds there's two seeds so on and so forth and nowhere in there does it say if you win your conference championship you get an automatic one seed but the reality of it is if we went just off of ranking we would be the third seed in this tournament as opposed to the fifth seed now i'm not saying one's better the other i'm saying if we go by that model yes there's automatic bids into the tournament but that doesn't necessarily give you a let's call it a one seed where you get that by in the first round so basically Oregon may have to face as the team with the the best regular season and the best conference championship performance in the second best conference.
Starting point is 00:35:55 They may have to face the winner of the Buckeyes, Tennessee they will face. And I think those two teams could both win the Natty, Texas and then Georgia. And Penn State gets the yellow brick road? What is going on? And I really do. I think the committee was just so concerned pandering to that wildly emotional SMU Clemson game. It's like those teams can't win the Natty. Oregon can, Ohio State can, Tennessee can, Texas can, maybe Penn State can, maybe,
Starting point is 00:36:26 but Penn State played Ohio State at home and lost and played Oregon and soundly lost. How did they get an easier route? Makes no sense to me at all. Again, recede it. That's what the NFL does. That's the way you should do it. I don't want to go crazy. It's year one.
Starting point is 00:36:44 But I just, Penn State. what a route. I mean, if you had asked Penn State, which spot do you want to be in? They're like, can we play SMU first and Boise State? That's the route they would have chosen. Orrigan needs to get that route. Who do you think should have gotten the sixth then?
Starting point is 00:37:02 I don't care. It can't be Penn State. You can't play two good teams lose to both. Yeah. You got to win one of them. I think was it Clat who sat here a couple weeks ago and said the receipt? And I was like, no way. Based on this, yeah, you're right. Oregon got shafted.
Starting point is 00:37:18 How about Notre Dame? Notre Dame had one really bad Saturday. How about Tennessee? Well, I don't know. Notre Dame's going to be live against Georgia. I think that is an interesting matchup because this Georgia quarterback situation, like I know the kid came in and limited. Listen, Georgia lost their quarterback to Texas and still won.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Let's be honest. And they won an overtime. So that backup, when you can win against Texas with a backup quarterback, it wasn't like he got hurt on the last series. They needed him in the second half. And they won. Georgia, I know they have the name brand and S.E. Colin, I got some numbers here.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Last 12 games, they're three and nine against the spread. The market had them amazing. And they're not covering, and two of those covers are against Texas. Yeah, they beat Texas twice. I don't care about the spread. Close games, though. Okay, well, that's okay. That's a go-either-way game.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah, but they keep winning those go-either-way games. It's like the Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs run a lot of close games, and they win all of them. Maybe another doinkel go their way or. Georgia is a live bet to win it all. I would not be surprised. And I would not be shocked if they lost to Notre Dame either. I kind of would be.
Starting point is 00:38:22 A little bit, I would be. It's Georgia. What do you make of the warm weather teams like SM are going to cold weather than state? It's not good. Tennessee? I know you like Tennessee, but. I think Tennessee, they're a touchdown dog. I think Tennessee can beat Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:38:38 What's the weather like in Columbus? 42 degrees in wet next week in the next couple of weeks. That's what it's going to be. That's not that bad. I thought it would be in the twas. You live in Tennessee, 40 and wet and windy, and maybe snow flurries is bad. Yeah. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:39:07 We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 00:39:31 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential. title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:39:52 podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Follow Timbo Slic Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,
Starting point is 00:41:31 embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the iHeart rate. Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness.
Starting point is 00:41:57 So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levan this went to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history.
Starting point is 00:42:30 You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. An NFL doubleheader starts with Commander Saints or Cowboys Panthers or other regional action. Then it's one of the biggest games of the year as the Steelers look to continue their incredible season against MVP candidates, Sequin, Barclay, and the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Check local listings for the games in your area only on box. So there was a massive deal yesterday. Juan Soto went from the Yankees where he stayed. briefly to the New York Mets and their billionaire owner, Steve Cohen. It was 15 years and $765 million. And you know what? It's actually great for baseball. It keeps the top 7 to 8 players in New York, L.A. and Philly.
Starting point is 00:43:30 What about the A's? Nobody in Oakland cared about the A's. What about the small market teams? Pittsburgh's got a billionaire owner? They won't spend the money. That's a U problem, Pittsburgh. Soto, Judge, and Lindor in New York, Harper and Philly, Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, and Otani in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Every league except the NFL benefits with certain superstars playing in certain markets. The NBA right now is a huge problem. Their best players are in Denver and Milwaukee and Minnesota and Oklahoma City and San Antonio. And it's crushing ratings for the last three years. Fox Sports just had a massive up 73 percent, a massive postseason and baseball. because you had the biggest stars in the right cities. It's not a network, and networks are paying 30% of the revenue. It's not a network's responsibility to make Oakland's owner more legitimate, or for Tampa's
Starting point is 00:44:31 billionaire owner to spend more money. These guys are just stuffing it in their pocket. Kansas City's owner, Pittsburgh's owners, Mariners' owners, I grew up with the Mariners. There were times they had one of the richest owners. They didn't spend like it. and so New York can and does. Mets and Yankees. Dodgers can. I mean, if you go look at why the postseason was up 73%.
Starting point is 00:44:53 It was stacked rosters. Stack roster in Philly with a superstar Harper. Stacked rosters in New York, Los Angeles, the San Diego Padres. And now Francisco Indoor gets Juan Soto. Must watch. I mean, it's only four at bats. They're not going to solve any pitching issues. We'll see how their bullpen is.
Starting point is 00:45:11 But sports socialism, like real socialism, It doesn't really work. And people now are more distracted than ever. So you've got to give them big superstar players and big recognizable brands. You're not just competing against other sports. You're competing vying for people's attention against Netflix and TikTok and YouTube. Sorry, this is why companies like Disney do the Avengers and they do series and why Tom Cruise Mission Impossible. Why does it work?
Starting point is 00:45:45 We're all more distracted. And it's not, I mean, you can say all you want. All these owners are billionaires. If Pittsburgh doesn't want to spend the money, that is a pirate's issue. So New York will spend the money. Dodgers will. Padres will. Atlanta generally does.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Houston's willing to. All right, I'm in. But I'm not going to pander to the organization and the billionaires who don't want to spend the money. So I think it's great for baseball. Are you kidding me? if the Mets played the Dodgers, take out Bryce Harper,
Starting point is 00:46:16 you could argue the five best players would be in that series in the NLCS. Soto, Lindor, Othani, Freeman, and Betts. Only Bryce Harper wouldn't be in that NLCS. Yeah, I'll sign up for it now. Too many people in the media, and I've heard fans, they say this forever. When I grew up as a kid,
Starting point is 00:46:37 the best teams, the Cincinnati Reds, the Dodgers, the Royals, the Pirates, the Phillies, They were all stacked. It wasn't even. I mean, there were like teams that had better GMs, better scouting departments, much better players, the Phillies for years. Pirates, Reds, Dodgers, had better teams. San Francisco stunk forever.
Starting point is 00:46:54 San Diego stunk forever. That's their problem. It's a network's responsibility to get numbers. And if you have four, five, or six or seven stacked teams, there's your revenue. And by the way, you can, as a fan, watch the visiting team come into town for four days and beat your brains out, you'll still get to see Bryce Harper. So I thought it was a great day for baseball.
Starting point is 00:47:15 I mean, is it better off going to Minnesota and they can't afford anybody around him? We saw that with Joe Mower. That wasn't good. Joey Votto and Cincinnati, they couldn't afford him. Okay, we'll pay Votto. We can't pay anybody else. No thanks. I'll take the Mets, the Yankees, the Dodgers, the Braves, the Padres.
Starting point is 00:47:30 To me, it's Phillies, just much more interesting. So yesterday, I mean, it was a really bad game. The Bears got hammered. But I want to say this in defense of Thomas, Brown, who I do not know. They have asked him in three weeks to go from the passing game coordinator to the offensive coordinator, to the head coach. His LinkedIn profile can't keep it straight.
Starting point is 00:47:54 HR is going like, can you guys slow it down? We can't give him three raises and three new contracts in three weeks. What do you expect? The kid's over his head. See, you can't ask anybody to have three different jobs in three different weeks in the NFL. and here's Caleb after the debacle, in fact, arguably the worst first half of odds events by any team in the NFL in several years.
Starting point is 00:48:17 We got our ass kick today, and there's no way around it. You can, like you said, they had, I think at one point we were, they had two, going to half, they had two 40-something, I believe, and we had nine, four total yards. So that's, I mean, that's regardless of how we feel, regardless of, you know, all of that, I mean, we got it handed to us. So Caleb Williams had concerns before he was drafted about Chicago. He didn't want them to go public. He's a good kid. He's really talented.
Starting point is 00:48:51 But what he was concerned with was this. You might as well put a tent over the bears. I mean, just look at what they've asked Thomas Brown to do in three weeks. Can you imagine that? Passing game coordinator head coach. Yeah, I'm going to say that's going to be. By the way, your first assignment is Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, I'm going to say he's going to be over his skis.
Starting point is 00:49:12 So this has always been the question with Chicago. This is the most predictable team in the league. We said Matt Iber Fluse was on the hot seat week one in a division with excellent coaching. Kevin O'Connell, Matt LaFleur, Dan Campbell and Ben Johnson, excellent coaching, and now they're on Thomas Brown. So they're just, they're asking the guy to do too much, too quick. quickly. And again, three parking spots in three weeks for the Bears. Give me a break. This is exactly what a lot of us were concerned with. This is what they do to quarterbacks. Green Bay,
Starting point is 00:49:48 they draft you, you sit behind a Hall of Famer, then they give you a great offensive coach, and you go on to win games. It's not a coincidence that Kansas City wins close games, and the Packers develop great quarterbacks. It's a business model, not coincidental. Hour two. Right wrong next. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't. care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:51:03 or wherever you get your podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcasts presents Soccer Moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend, Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:51:15 A redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they hit a bogo. Well, then you got it.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Listen to soccer moms on the. I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm CJ Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast, Point Game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.
Starting point is 00:51:49 If we didn't talk ever again, I was part of it. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come in to you, he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball.
Starting point is 00:52:02 So listen to Point Game. on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, and on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be? I call on my Gen X squad from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate Midlife's most fantastic BS. Unfiltered conversations from night sweats to fupas to scheduling sex. Wait, what sex? Is it just me, or does every woman, my age, want to look at Pinterest instead of having sex sometimes? They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try.
Starting point is 00:52:32 So let's get blunt with laughs, tears or tears of laughter. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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