The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 – Kirk Cousins Feels Misled, Mahomes wants to have fun, Trouble in Dodgerland

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington fill-in for The Herd and wonder who ‘misled’ who between Kirk Cousins and the Falcons. Patrick Mahomes wants to get back to having fun. LaVar pays fines for ...his play. Plus, trouble with he Dodgers and much more! #2prosSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:35 And, you know, apparently, not everybody feels like they were told the truth from time to time. You know, some people feel like in the NFL that maybe if they would have had some different information, maybe things would have gone a little bit, a little bit more, I guess, on the opposite spectrum with how they made their decisions and how they opted to, make those career choices during the course of their illustrious, high-paying NFL employment. And one of those guys is none other than Kirk Cousins, who was featured on Netflix's quarterback season two. And he talked about the decision to go to Atlanta and how, well, had I known that, maybe I wouldn't have made that move. I wasn't expecting us to take a quarterback so high.
Starting point is 00:04:28 At the time, it felt like I had been a little bit misled, or certainly if I had the information around free agency, it certainly would have affected my decision. I had no reason to leave Minnesota with how much we loved it there if both teams are going to be drafting a quarterback high. But I've also learned in 12 years in this league that you're not entitled to anything. It's all about being able to earn your spot and prove yourself. That's the last part is the best part of it.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I mean, you've been in the league long, enough to understand that they handle things the way they handle things. And you make your decision based off of the information that you have and the possibilities of what could take place beyond that. Period. Like, that's about it. Like, it's a pretty open shut situation. Like, okay, how many other players do you think have been misled that are in a position
Starting point is 00:05:20 of choosing in free agency? Like, anybody could come up with a reason as to why they feel like they've been misled. what the bottom line is is you have a job. It's a great paying job. You are paid as a starter. They took a quarterback. It wasn't Michael Pennix that took your job
Starting point is 00:05:40 or you didn't get a fair opportunity. You played your way out of the job. It's like you misled the Atlanta Falcons. They didn't feel like they were going to have to use Michael Pennix that early, but they had to because you got the
Starting point is 00:05:56 yips. Like, you got hit. You didn't want to get hit anymore. You start turning a ball over. You start playing poorly. And they felt like they needed to switch it up and see if they could get a spark because you weren't playing well. Is that is that fair? Yeah. Although I would say this, if you're Kirk Cousins, I wonder if part of him not playing well, obviously he's coming off the injury, but he even alluded to, you know, just sort of having to learn an entirely new offense, having to learn all of these new things that also adding that on top of the fact that you drafted a quarterback as high as you did, I just think when you take a quarterback that high in the draft, the clock
Starting point is 00:06:36 starts ticking. And I wonder if Cousins felt a certain way and could just never let it go when he got to the season. Because he can say all the right things. Like, you know, listen, anything can happen in the NFL to business. I think that he looked at that and it was always in the back of his mind. I'm out here. I'm with this team.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I'm with this organization. Yet they went and did something that I did not expect. They went and did something that had I known that, I wouldn't have left Minnesota because he was successful in Minnesota. And I wonder if that added to the pressure that he felt in trying to go out and perform and all doing so while coming back from the same injury that Aaron Rogers suffered. And we saw that played out. And he suffered it later in the year.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Well, If you wanted to stay in Minnesota and you had the opportunity to stay in Minnesota, you make your choice. You make your choice. If the value is there for you to want to stay, then you stay. But you made a choice. So there's no reason to come back after all this time and say you were misled or I would have stayed in Minnesota. Minnesota was easily, clearly the best situation for you to be in.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Personnel-wise, you have an amazing receiving core. You got a dope tight-in. You got a good offensive line. You got a running back. You got a pretty decent defense. You were in position, pole position, to take over the NFC North and be a competitor in the North. And oh, by the way, they did it with Sam Darnold.
Starting point is 00:08:26 They did it with Sam Darnold. Don't say I thought I had a great situation here and this, that, and other, and I could have did this. And they were going to draft a quarterback, then they're going to draft a quarterback. Aaron Rogers had to deal with them drafting quarterbacks, multiple drafts, multiple times. But I think Kirk Cousins, he talked with Minnesota and they let their intentions be known. By the way, we'd love to have you back, but we are going to address the quarterback position in the draft. They were up front with him, which is why he made the decision to go to Atlanta because he said, look, I understand that.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I don't want to be in that situation. So I'm going to go sign somewhere else where I can be the guy and I know that. Oops. It turns around that he drafted a quarterback too. Kirk Cousins is like, well, if I would have known that, I would just stayed. I would have just stayed in Minnesota. And there wouldn't have been any issue whatsoever. And they wanted to keep him.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Kevin O'Connell wanted to keep him. But it's, you know, it just goes to show you that you can't have it all. Because everyone talks about Kirk Cousins and, you know, he's won in the, you know, the business in the NFL and contracts and guarantees and all that stuff. And right when he think that you've got it all figured out and hey, look, I appreciate it. I'm going to go somewhere else. I'm going to make a ton of money. And you guys are going to draft a quarterback in the future. All good.
Starting point is 00:09:47 It's business here. Then business came back and bit him in the ass a little bit. And now he's in a bad spot. He got his contract. He got his contract. What type of a bad spot is he in? He didn't get the contract of a backup. He got the contract of a starter.
Starting point is 00:10:05 You've got the contract of a starter. Your team didn't definitively take a strong step in winning last year. Atlanta is still a question mark team. Michael Pennix, people are excited. about him, but it's still a question mark for him at quarterback as to what he can do for this team. I think he
Starting point is 00:10:33 may have released this prematurely. There's no reason for you to put this out there. The bottom line is you might have ended up in the same exact situation in Minnesota. You might have got the yips. You might have played bad. and maybe JJ McCarthy doesn't get hurt.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Maybe he takes your position. Maybe you're a backup with a starting quarterback salary and you have to eat it like anybody else who loses their job and one of the most competitive industries that exist in the world. I think he took on too much, to be honest with you. I think he got to Atlanta and he took on recovering from an injury, learning an entirely new system.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Oh, and by the way, the clock's ticking because we just drafted a guy eighth overall. Yep. So all you got to do is eliminate one of those components. If you're in, maybe even two, you eliminate, because he has to still deal with coming off of the
Starting point is 00:11:40 injury, even if he's in Minnesota. And as far as going and learning a new offense, that would be the only one that you would eliminate because you were still going to have to fight. If they kept Kirk Cousins, I do not believe that that impacts
Starting point is 00:11:57 if they take a quarterback or not. In fact, I think that that's why Kirk Cousins got the hell out of God. Yeah, yeah, because they told him that. We're taking a quarterback. So in the end, if he decided to stay, if you decided to stay and they draft the quarterback, all of the circumstances he's facing
Starting point is 00:12:16 except the playbook are still in play. You got to try to come back. from off of the injury. You got to come back and you got to hold off the rookie. It's happened before. It's happened before. There have been quarterbacks that have been established quarterbacks for their team. Somebody gets drafted and they're competing for that job.
Starting point is 00:12:41 In fact, for what it's worth, outside of it being a high draft pick, that's the only thing that makes it a more valuable conversation. because the bottom line is every single roster spot, not just starting, every single roster spot is a intense battle to get it. It's like having the most amazing athletes play musical chairs with one seat. Who's going to get it? That's the NFL. So to me, you got to always be prepared to compete.
Starting point is 00:13:27 So whether it was a high draft pick or not, who's ever backing you up, they most likely want to start. They most likely want your job so that they can put themselves in position where they can ask for the type of money you're making. You're always competing. So to me, there's no such thing as in this type of scenario and this, in this topic line, that you can say you were misled. Because the bottom line is, if you don't understand coming into the National Football League that you just got drafted or you just got hired to take somebody else's job for lesser money, and that's every single person that's brought in.
Starting point is 00:14:10 If you don't understand that coming in, then you're behind. You're behind. You can't mislead somebody. Oh, I thought I was coming in just to be the starter. You're just going to only have me as a starter. No. There's somebody there that if they can get the same results from you, like a Sam Darnold,
Starting point is 00:14:28 and they don't have to pay you what they pay a Patrick Mahomes or a Dak Prescott or Joe Burrow, if they don't have to pay that, that's who they're going with until they can't. That's why rookie contracts are so important. I don't have to pay you for being amazing. I got three, four years that I can go, maybe more, maybe longer if I want,
Starting point is 00:14:51 and I can get that talent at this price. Bottom line. I feel bad for Kirk Customs. You should. Let me tell you why. Why? Because this would have been the equivalent to the 72 Dolphins Perfect season when it came to the business standpoint of the NFL. He could have walked away and said,
Starting point is 00:15:09 got them all, beat everybody, got franchise tagged twice in Washington, got all that money, and then became the first guy to get a fully guaranteed contract. He even dangled Minnesota and the jets against each other and then sold everybody on. I took $3 million less to go play in Minnesota because I liked it more. And then he was about to get another extension. All of a sudden he gets an injury and he says, you know what? Oh, you're going to draft a quarterback? No worry. I'll continue this bank heist. I'll go to another bank in
Starting point is 00:15:39 Atlanta and I'll take from them. And he was about ready to get out of there coming off an injury with all those hundreds of millions of guarantees that he's got, and all of a sudden, the damn Falcons front office is waiting outside with a squad car, and they scoop him up, and there goes this perfect run in the NFL business world. Gone. Man up and vanished like a fart in the wind. Could have been perfect. Everything lined up just right, and the damn Falcons ruined it all.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Feel bad for Kirk Cousins. How? He got the contract. Yeah, now he's stuck as a backup. He's trying to get the hell out of there. Hold on, hold on. It's all about perspective. Again, let me reiterate. He could have been stuck as the backup in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah, but he liked it there. It was perfect. Everything was perfect. Well, then take a pay cut and go back. Take a pay cut and go back. They misled you. Get back some of that signing bonus and go back. He was trying.
Starting point is 00:16:40 To me, yeah, right. To me, he's already, he's already won. It's not, he didn't. blemish his perfect record of handling business at a at a high level not at all he got his contract
Starting point is 00:16:57 he wasn't misled on his contract he wasn't misled on them numbers now if he comes out and he says some of this stuff is based off of incentives and escalators and playing time okay I get that if you were misled that he has a legitimate
Starting point is 00:17:14 right he has a legitimate gripe but as far as I'm concerned the reason why he's in the Hall of Fame of doing business and doing contract is because he gets his money the money that he's going to get he's going to get whether he's a backup
Starting point is 00:17:28 or whether he's a starter and if that's the case he's already winning you're winning Michael Pennix has all the pressure on him if he doesn't prove out they didn't move you you're the backup
Starting point is 00:17:43 something jumps off you get back in take your shot and then whatever happens next you leverage it to maybe try to get another deal out of it that's how it works no reason to have hard feelings no need to feel sorry for him and no need to be a victim in the matter you know kirk i support you man you know your pursuit for perfection and all of a sudden the falcons ruined at all it's too bad man uh it is the herd here on fox sports Radio, LeVar Erington, Jonas Knox, in for calling here on FSR. By the way, coming up later on, Bruce Feldman's going to stop by. We've got some very interesting information about a big-time move that took place in the world of
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Starting point is 00:22:28 Coming up in about 20 minutes from now, we are going to have the first installment of the Hurdline News, starring the one and only Ryan Music. That'll be yours here again, 20 minutes from now, here on FSR. We do have a team that's going full red ass mode this year.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And that team... Puffy Bottom would be the Kansas City Chiefs. The Kansas City Chiefs who find themselves in unfamiliar territory getting exposed in the Super Bowl, Philly put a clown suit on them early and that game was over before halftime. And
Starting point is 00:23:01 Patrick Mahomes of the Kansas City chiefs spoke with Kay Adams on Up and Adams and he talked to you know, let's have some fun again. All right, let's get back to the good old days. I think it's just us having fun again. I mean, it's always been fun playing on the Kansas City Chiefs, and that's what makes it special.
Starting point is 00:23:19 And I feel like last year, I don't want to say it was pressure, but guys wanted to go out there and win every single week, not for the fun in the game just because we're supposed to. Let's go out there and have fun. I mean, the wins will come if we play the way that we know we can play. We have the talent. We have the coaches. We work harder than anybody in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:23:34 So let's go out there and have fun and let the results handle them. So it's going to be a different looking chiefs this year. Not so much pressure, not trying to go for three in a row. None of that garbage. Get back to the good old days. Just go out there and sling it and put a smile on your face. I mean, it's great to mask it that way. The loss certainly hit the reset on the record-setting amount of wins in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:24:00 It cleared out the dynasty talk maybe for a season. a summer, a summer, maybe. There's still a dynasty, aren't they? Are they? I would think so. Yeah. Maybe one more. Really?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Hmm. They got two, right? Um, no, they've got three. Three Super Bowls? Yeah, it's a dynasty. It's a dynasty. But, but, okay, well, then let's say greatest dynasty. Right?
Starting point is 00:24:31 If you set a record on three straight, that's pretty, that's pretty fly. That's pretty flybiz. I think it's good because they are finding ways you'll always see and hear stories from the greatest to ever do it, whether they're teams, whether it's players, whether it's a coach. They always find a way to motivate themselves, to inspire themselves. And a lot of times it's made up because they're still the most elite football team in the National Football League. Alvin Mack.
Starting point is 00:25:09 There's still, there you go. Hey, kill them all. They are still the gold standard of what a team is supposed to be, how they're supposed to be ran, coached, players, quarterback, you name it. They have more talent this year, and they probably do feel less pressure because winning one Super Bowl feels very different than trying to win the third in a row Super Bowl. And look at how they delivered on that. Under those circumstances, they were still able to deliver an appearance in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:25:48 So imagine a better team, perceivably, a better football team, more talent than what they had last year, at least more weapons for Patrick Mahomes. It's probably going to be a more explosive offense. the defense did most of the carrying last year. If the offense resurfaces and is more aggressive and is more aggressive and putting up points like they did before, then now you're talking about that restoring of the balance that you saw when the Cheetah was on the team. And it was the Cheetah and Kelsey. There's the possibility that they could have an offense as dynamic.
Starting point is 00:26:32 and with plenty of explosive plays with this team that they have coming in this season. So, of course, Patrick Mahomes is going to be excited. They're going to have a burr, you know, and they're going to get after it because they came up short and they probably felt like that's one that they let get away that would have been in the record books forever. So, I mean, give credit where credits do. At least they're not in a place of complacency. That's what you should be concerned about.
Starting point is 00:27:00 If we're listening to a quote from Patrick Mahomes, and it's like, you know, we've won a lot. You know, we just get to work. It's the offseason. And, you know, we'll get to the season and we'll see how it goes. I mean, we've won a lot here. We've had a lot of great success. So with the runs that we've had, this run that we've had during this time, you know, I mean, everything's got to be a positive, a bonus from.
Starting point is 00:27:30 from here on out because we've delivered so much to you. You know, it's wild. The Chiefs are so unrelatable to just about every single fan base and organization in the league. All that they've known since Patrick Mahomes became the full-time starter is AFC championships or Super Bowls. And the two AFC title games they lost, they lost in overtime. Other than that, they're going to the Super Bowl every year, and they're at least in the conversation to win another title. There are fan bases
Starting point is 00:28:00 starving out there that just want one. Can we make one Super Bowl appearances? There are fan bases that are just starving to make it to the playoffs. I went to the playoffs two times in my career and one I was playing and one I was injured. And you basically assaulted Chris Sims and the other one, didn't you? Yeah, I was playing in that one. Didn't you burst his spleen? No.
Starting point is 00:28:25 I think. Wasn't it? Maybe. I think, we might have got him. I don't know. I don't think that was me. I think Levar almost killed Chris Sims.
Starting point is 00:28:34 I might have. It's been a while. I remember the interception, and I got knocked out. Did you really? Oh, I was out. I fumbled, too, by the way. It was a fumble.
Starting point is 00:28:45 They didn't rule it a fumble, but that was a fumble. That was a fumble. Who hit you? I was a lineman. I don't remember. I still don't remember to this day. But I might have hit him pretty hard. in that guy. I don't remember me hitting him hard
Starting point is 00:28:58 in that game. I remember Sean Taylor spitting Pittman's face. I think he got kicked out of that game too. He's spitting Michael Pittman's face? Talk about a guy. It might not be the guy you want to spit on. Yeah, Sean Taylor though. Talk about Godzilla
Starting point is 00:29:14 versus King Kong. I mean, that would have been a nice little matchup. Plus, we would have not let anything happen to Sean. And then a Mike would have had to deal with me. Then we would have all been kicked out because I would have been whooping ass. Everybody would have been whooping ass. So, but I was knocked out. What you got, Lee?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Lee, what are we looking at here? According to the Google machine, Levar Arrington did intercept Chris Sims in a pivotal playoff game, but there's no evidence of you physically hitting Chris Sims. So what if you just like, if you put it into AI, did LeVar Arrington kill Chris Sims? Dang, I didn't kill it. Like what would show up there? That's what you put in?
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah, physically, no evidence of physically harming Chris Sims. Well, listen, I feel like that's reckless. AI reporting there, but nonetheless. It wasn't Chris Sims. It was it was Brad Johnson. But Chris Sims did have the
Starting point is 00:30:08 burst spleen or something like that in that game. I'm almost positive. There was a playoff game Chris Sims went out because, and Gruden was the coach for Tampa at that time. I believe so. Yeah. LeVar had a forced fumble in that game? Look at that. Yeah, you really did kill him.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I forced a fumble. eight tackles, a force fumble and an interception. I might have hurting. I might have hurting. Like, I'm pretty sure Chris Sims. That's a hell of a game, by the way. Shepard internal bleeding.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I'm telling you, I was a beast when I played. I mean, eight tackles, a sack, an I-N-T. That's a hell of a game. I mean, that's probably better than any other linebacker or defensive player that had a game. that's that's an MVP performance. Damn, you really didn't remember, didn't you? No.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Damn, I did all right. I used to be something. Before I started doing radio with you, I used to beat somebody. I'm telling you, man. Then it all went downhill ever since now. I told you, man. You were at the top of the top,
Starting point is 00:31:12 and now you're doing radio midday with Count Chocula. I almost cursed. We almost had to dump out. And it was a F bomb. You were teammates with Bruce Smith, neon, Sean Taylor, do you look over to your left and you got me? Daryl, Mark Carrier. Some guy with two dumb tattoos.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Marco Coleman. And a truck from the 90s in the parking line. He's got a thorn bush around his arm and his dog on his back. Damn. My had the mighty fall in. It's all good, man. It's a right part too. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:31:46 That's why I rock my gray beard and I wear my little image glasses. I like to be incognito because, you know, this is who I am now. This is where we are. This is what we're doing. This is what we're doing. Now, on the subject, though, of the playoff run for the Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Walms talking about just getting back to having fun again, I just, I hope that he, and he probably won't until his career is over, but I hope that he and Chiefs fans and that
Starting point is 00:32:15 entire organization understand how good they have it. I hope that they really do understand it, because sometimes you could get caught up in the weeds on, you know, just sort of, oh, well, listen, it's the grind day to day. Patrick Mahomes also talked to Tom Brady. He's been talking to Tom Brady a lot. This from Up and Adams, and he spoke about the advice he's gotten from TV 12. He always talks about being yourself. He thinks that, which I truly believe, too, is that guys can spot when you're not authentic and you're not putting in the work. And that's something that he did every single day. That's why guys respect him so much. And that's all I'm going to do for the rest of my career. And I feel like
Starting point is 00:32:51 I've done so far as I'm always myself. No matter if you like me or if you don't like me, you know that I'm giving everything I can to win the football game. So Brady giving him all the advice. Brady was a guy who struck me as, was constantly worried about the grind and never satisfied with what he had. And even Brady probably looks at the start of Patrick Mahomes' career
Starting point is 00:33:11 and goes, damn, man. There's been no, literally no decline with the chiefs since Patrick Burhomes is taking over. And the toughest division. Yes. It's not like he's doing. doing it in a weak-ass division. He's got to go to work every single year. It's not been easy.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So the road that he's had to hoe, he's been doing it on some real treacherous terrain. And he's still been able to navigate it. That's the biggest question here. As long as Patrick Mahomes stays healthy, you've got to assume the process is in play, the understanding of what the defense needs to deliver and what the offense needs to do in order for them to win is all solidified.
Starting point is 00:33:59 If Patrick Mahomes were to go down, is that the death of their successful run? That has to be, his health has to be maybe the biggest question in terms of moving forward, as long as he can stay healthy, which he has been known to get nicked up. you know that ankle his ankle is giving trouble at times if he were to go down do they have a contingency plan
Starting point is 00:34:31 where they can still be the effective team that they are when they have I mean obviously they're not going to be as good as they would be with him in there do they have a contingency plan where they can still win games if they were to lose Patrick Mahomes
Starting point is 00:34:48 for an extended amount of time Yes. And you know who that is. Gardner Minchew. What are you worried about? I'll say this. In that offensive scheme, he probably would thrive. Hey, listen, Minchew's actually played a lot better than people realize. If you just go look at his numbers, that guy's going to be in the NFL for a long time. The Raiders were a bit of a rough spot. By the way, we're going to have to edit some of the podcast. Apparently Chris Sims was hurt against the Carolina Panthers.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Or if you could use a... There you go. Yeah, that's what I'm showing that he burst his... But I might have hurting, though. I might have hurting, but I don't think I did. I do know that something happened to Brad Johnson's ribs in preseason when I hit him. Now, if you want to look that one up, Lee, look that... I got fined like $10,000 for a legal hit.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I legally hit him. The man still had the ball in his hand. And I hit him, and I knocked the spirit, soul, mind, everything. and some of it out of his body. If I got to find $10,000, I'd sell my son. I've got to get that money back. For 10 G's? Yeah, 10 Gs.
Starting point is 00:36:02 By the way, that fumble you forced was return for a touchdown in that 1710 victory. From Sean Taylor. I didn't realize that. Damn. You really have to fall in a long way. Just look to your left. This is life. the memories
Starting point is 00:36:19 that's all you really can look for is just live in the memories I guess 15,000 for striking an opponent in the head I'm not sure if that's the right one that we're looking at I got that Yep 5,000 for taunting Yeah what was career fines All right so that's 20,000 That's my career fines
Starting point is 00:36:34 35 total 35 grand Yeah I try to look for the other ones So far 35 so far I was the highest fine dude in the league one year until Harbaugh or somebody got hit in
Starting point is 00:36:51 the Chicago Bears game. Jim Miller. Jim Miller. Jim Miller got annihilated. And that fine took, was that Hugh Douglas? Who was that? I think it was. Yeah. His fine pushed him to the top. I was number one on the list and Hugh Douglas took it on that hit in the Chicago
Starting point is 00:37:11 game. Yeah. He took it away from me. Well, look. I was hitting people in the head, though. I'll tell you that. If there's one thing I was doing, what they call targeting, that's, I was a missile to your cranium. I was a missile. Pseo.
Starting point is 00:37:32 That's how I used to, in my mind. Like, I'd be lining up in the game, right? I'd be in the game. Here we go. Say, I'm sitting there looking at, like, all right, here we go. Out of there. out of there. Only 35 grand.
Starting point is 00:37:58 It's not bad. Amen. Got to have a 35 grand. And some of those fines, I mean, maybe those are like my physical fines. Because I was getting fined, like, dudes wear their uniforms the way they want to wear their uniforms now. I was wearing, I was getting fined for having my sock too low. Hey, George Pickens got fined over 200 grand last year by the Steelers. So I didn't get fined by the team.
Starting point is 00:38:18 I got fined by the league. Well, the league was fined me. The league was finding me for my uniform. violations and hitting people in the hit. Dan Snyder never fined you because being there was a fine enough. He should have been paying a fine for being the owner. Some would say he did. It is...
Starting point is 00:38:39 They're still looking for him to pay some of that. It's the herd here on Fox Sports Radio. Levarr Arrington, Jonas Knox, in for Colin. By the way, brought to you by Navian for hot water that never runs out. Goat tankless with Navian. Right now save hundreds on a new efficiency tankless water heater with local rebates. find the name of your Navian contractor at tankless made simple.com. Tankless made simple.com.
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Starting point is 00:39:20 We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.
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Starting point is 00:42:42 Come on, Mavar. Come on, Jonas. Yeah. Come on. All right, let's do it then. Come on. unfortunately we do have to start a little negative. Dodgers dropped their fourth game in a row following a loss to the Brewers last night.
Starting point is 00:42:58 What's going on? They've now been outscored 38 to 7 in that four-game losing streak. That's what's going on in the bar. That's bad. Well, the good news is their depleted pitching rotation is getting some much-needed relief with the return of their all-star pitcher Tyler Glasnow,
Starting point is 00:43:12 who's expected to make a start tomorrow against the Brewers and the final game of the series. I mean, so at least he could do. Signed a big time contract and just kind of hanging out. He did last season had 22 starts, but then was injured for their playoff run. They obviously went on to win the World Series without him. And then as you pointed out, he has not pitched after making five starts this season. So yes, hopefully a rebound year for him as the Dodgers pitching stage.
Starting point is 00:43:47 staff could really use some healthy arms here. They were talked about as having 10 deep. Like you could literally have two rotations with the Dodgers based on how much they start, how many starters they had before the year. And now they're looking around going, we got to make a move at the deadline. Like, we have to do something because nobody can stay healthy. Blake Snell, Glass now, all these guys are getting banged up and say, all right. I mean, but if there's an organization that was going to go get aggressive and try and make a move,
Starting point is 00:44:17 it was going to be that. Totally. And to your point, like, coming into this year it was, well, they're so deep they can just bring back O-Tonnie whenever they feel like it. No big deal. Maybe he pitches this year. Maybe he doesn't. Now it's to the point where
Starting point is 00:44:33 it's like, I mean, look, do we think O'Tani can get some full starts in by the All-Star Break? Why not? I mean, that's how desperate they're looking. By the way, people are underselling what he's trying to do. He's basically trying to do his rehab assignments at the major league level because he can't afford to lose his bat.
Starting point is 00:44:52 That's crazy. So he's not like normally he would be in the minors and you'd be. Simulating game. So instead he's doing it against actual big league hitters in real games because they need his bat. I mean, does that play a part in why they're losing? He's throwing 100 miles an hour. That's unbelievable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:10 It's a very fast, fast ball. And what's also remarkable about the Dodgers and the season that they are having is that despite being on a four-game losing streak, still six games up in the division. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's over. No need to panic there. But obviously, it's sort of a all-site set on the World Series. And in order to do that, they're going to need some health in their starting rotation.
Starting point is 00:45:31 All right, let's turn our attention to the NFL. A lot of questions about the Cowboys entering this season. Got a first-year head coach, Dak Prescott coming back from another injury. How does George Pickens fit into the offense? Well, let's add left tackle to that list as well. Dallas is looking for their 24 first round pick Tyler Guyton to make big strides in year two. And here's what A-time pro bowler Tyron Smith had to say about his development telling the Dallas Morning News. He just needs a little technique work, which he's doing right now.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I feel like it's going to be a different type of year for him. Slow the game down, get the rookie nerves out. Cowboys, they're going to need some huge improvements out of Guyton, who graded 57th out of 58 qualified tackles. according to PFF last year. That's not a very good rating. Damn. That's not very...
Starting point is 00:46:22 57 out of 58? Yeah, it could have been 59. You're going to find the positive in this stuff, man. He wasn't last. He wasn't last. Yeah, you're going to find the positives here. I mean, and everybody else, I mean, if you're not first, you're last. That's a good point. You know?
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah. Who wants to be the first loser? In the second place, the first loser? Yeah, I think so. That's what they say, right? Yeah. Although... I haven't heard the...
Starting point is 00:46:46 Dak Prescott's in like the best shape of his life coming into a training camp up in Knoxnard, as they call it. So I don't know if, I don't know if what's so funny here. I don't know if, uh, strawberries and Knoxnard. I don't know if there's any validity to that, but there is some, some optimism. I'm told, look, the Cowboys. That's your team. They but they butchered the Mike McCarthy negotiations. and then ended up settling on somebody on staff who didn't even call plays last year.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And this is like not a knock on Brian Schottenheimer. And then his whole thing is we're going to- That's not a knock? Well, look, we're going to shake it up and we're going to move everybody's lockers. It just feels like they're scrambling to come up with a plan. Meanwhile, Micah Parsons is looking to get paid. It's just, there's a lot going on there, man. They should be dangerous with Dak Prescott as a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Fine quarterback. Pickens and lamb. at receivers one and two, that's nasty. The potential of that is pretty, it's pretty high. So it's like, what are you going to do? If it doesn't work out this year on the offensive side of the ball, what are you going to blame it on?
Starting point is 00:48:06 So maybe that's why it's news that you got to have your offensive line in the right, right place. Yeah, that feels like the biggest point for Dallas right now. multiple Hall of Famers on their line of scrimmage for the last 10 years, and they did absolutely nothing with that. So whatever. They got to throw that ball. You better to straighten that pill.
Starting point is 00:48:29 So whatever. I mean, that's the proper summing of it with summing up. So whatever. Whatever. Let's wait and see. Let's wait to see. One more herd. The herd streams 20.
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