The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Lakers & Mavs Fans Were One

Episode Date: April 10, 2025

C&R have fun talking Luka magic! Was that one of the best homecomings ever? The guys react to a wild 48 hours for #77! Covino has two MLB players that he thinks will have big bounce-back seasons. ...Plus, 'OLD-SCHOOL WHEN 50 HITS' celebrates National Siblings Day! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:39 Added boy. You could also listen wherever you stream your podcast, follow rate and review over promise. So excited about that. But on today's show, Dyer Wolves. Guilty fandom. Simplings. There's a lot of random stuff, but I mean, you can't not start with Luca. I mean, the big story two nights ago was that, is he a baby B is here?
Starting point is 00:05:02 Was he wrongfully accused? He went from crying to the refs on Tuesday night to actually crying in Dallas Wednesday night. And there's two ways to look at that in itself. The Mavericks welcome him, but do they do that for him or do they do that to show we're a world-class organization and we do things right here? That's a debate in itself, right? I know what you're saying. Is it for show or is it genuine? Is it genuine?
Starting point is 00:05:33 Because they essentially did dump him, but they welcomed him back. Did they do it for him or the fans? I don't know. It's like dumping a girl and then be like, hey, everyone, look at it. There she is the hottest, greatest girl. Didn't he just dump her?
Starting point is 00:05:44 When he's crying, does that mean he really wants to be a Maverick still? Or is he just caught up in his emotions? It's a special moment. He's dealing with a lot. He's an emotional guy. There's that. And for me, personally, if that were me, maybe I'm too prideful, maybe Vatos only have 96 tears. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:06:08 But if they had a camera up my nose in that moment of an emotional montage, I would have kicked that guy right in the sternum and would have been like, dude, get out of my face with that camera. You would have called Justin Bieber? However, I saw a lot of people saying you got to like really applaud Luca. he knew that he was being filmed and he let his emotions fly. He showed a human side of him. And a lot of players in that moment, Rich, they request to see the video first so that when this is really airing,
Starting point is 00:06:37 they just like turn away and put the head down or whatever because it's an emotional moment. There's a lot of ways to look at this. Either way, the majority of people are saying, and we're saying, and I know you hate this, and that's why I'm posing this question to Rich. Last night, he became a Laker. Now, you hate it when they say it about the Yankees because I heard Max Fried earned his pinstripes this week.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I don't know if you heard that. Yeah. Max Fried earned his pinstripes this week. He became a Yankee. Rich, Rich. That's supposed to eye rolling statement in sports. Don't get too upset, Rich, because the flip side of that has been, is he truly a Dallas Maverick? Does he really still want to be in the city of Dallas?
Starting point is 00:07:14 So we're hearing a lot of that today as well. Is that why he was crying? You know, there's so many ways to look at last night. I look at it like, wow, that was really special. because he turned that an emotional moment. And he admitted, I didn't think I could play after seeing that into a 45 point bull bam in your face. Take that. Thanks for welcoming me back.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Statement. 45, 6 and 8 last night. 6 rebounds, 8 assists. He put on a show. And as JJ Reddick said, he was a little disappointed because he expected 50 points. And he laughed about it. But he could have put up 50 points last night. Major props to him playing big in a really emotional moment.
Starting point is 00:07:54 moment last night. But again, we saw a human side to Luca. I don't know. I think they should arrested him for the playoffs. Yeah, right. Well, and what a way to clinch a playoff spot. You don't have to worry about the play in. You know, you got a couple of teams creeping up right behind you. The Warriors had a big loss last night with none other than Harrison Barnes hitting that game winning shot. And, you know, after the game, he said, you know, you move forward now. Now it's time to, now it's time to move forward, meaning that chapter's closed. And that sort of answers the other question that we were speculating. Like if he doesn't sign a long-term deal
Starting point is 00:08:30 with the Lakers, will he ever go back to Dallas? Would they ever bring them back? I think if he's saying we move forward now, you don't look backwards. Well, it would have to be with a new general manager for sure. That's very possible based on the chance last night. Oh, Lord. And probably a new owner. I would imagine that he's not going to go back unless it's a clean house.
Starting point is 00:08:53 And here's something you started by saying, was this something Dallas did because they're a nice organization? ESPN's Tim McMahon reporting that Dallas tried to monetize Lucas' first time back by hitting up the major sponsors that Luca and his team are in bed with. The Mavs had lined up lucrative sponsorship deals for Wednesday's game with multiple companies that Luca endorses. But those deals fell apart after Lucas camp declined to give it. It's blessing. The person that posted this said, Dallas is shameless. So is that just disingenuous or is that just good business? There's so many different elements.
Starting point is 00:09:33 There's so many layers of this because I was just thinking there's 30 plus teams in the NBA. If he were to not be a Laker in a couple years from now, whenever the case may be, why go back to Dallas? Does he love it there that much? You're the first person to say the more you see the world, you can live a lot of places. I know why, though. Unfinished business. That's why I hated the fact that Soto moved on
Starting point is 00:09:56 because I feel like he left the Yankees in a position of unfinished business. Dude, you made it to the World Series with this team and you're just going to dip. He wanted to deliver a championship to Dallas. That's all he knew when it came to America. You know, Rich, I have a close relationship to where you live in Woodland Hills right now. You know why? Because for years, when I moved out to L.A. from New Jersey, Woodland Hills is all I knew.
Starting point is 00:10:21 So he knows Dallas. That's all you're saying. That was home. That was home for him. I mean, you could argue that LeBron went back to Cleveland at one point to finish, unfinished business. Cleveland! And Danny G made another really interesting observation based on the thought of last night he became a Laker. Now you could roll your eyes at that. You could say, yeah, that's kind of true, man.
Starting point is 00:10:45 He put the knife in his former team's back and he scored 45 points leading his new team to victory, a major win in front of his fans. But it might be the first time that you saw another team leading the cheers in an away stadium. And that was kind of wild to see. When he hit his first shot, everyone cheered when he hit his first shot. Yeah, when LeBron started putting his arms up and then you saw Austin Reeves and the entire Laker team on the side there of the court by the bench, all raising the roof with the crowd. and they were like one with the Dallas fans and that was so strange to see.
Starting point is 00:11:24 One with the Dallas fans, but one one for all for Luca. And that was them supporting Luca last night. So officially a Laker, I think that gives him the juice moving forward. Like this is it now. You know, you're mentioning like Luca, this was his goodbye.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I think the fans knew that as well. Not just for Luca, but the fans were also like, this is our final hurrah with you. You know what, Monzi has another great point. And your phone calls and your feedback, your thoughts of last night. It was a big moment, 87799 on Fox. You know what it's like if you want to tie it to a relationship, we always say?
Starting point is 00:11:59 And he had a long relationship with the Dallas Mavericks. It's all he knew. It's the closing of the chapter, meaning the, you know, in relationships when you have a, you need to close the book. You need a closure. You just need closure. That's not. That was the closure. For all sides.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Yeah. That was the closure he needed. Now he just moves forward. I'm expecting an uber dominant luca moving forward. I mean, three observations I've made. Number one, you always need that first time a player comes back for the last, as you would say. I love how Moncie said, hurrah, not hurrah. The last hurrah.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Last hurrah. I always say hurrah. So it's not going to be like the military like, hoorah. It's not going to be like that moving forward. So we could all acknowledge that. It's a one-time thing. It's the closure. We all get.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And not it's, you got to ask yourself, what is the closure you get in a relationship, right? I always feel like I can never truly get relationship closure until you see that person and you know they're sleeping with someone else. Yeah, sometimes this is the closure you need. Like you, like there's, have you slept with him yet? Did you, did you, did you beep him? Then you know it's over. Yeah. But if you break up with someone, you're like, I don't know, it's just not working.
Starting point is 00:13:17 when you find out like, oh, she's banging John from work? That you might need... That really closes the door. I think seeing Luca... That closed the door, but then when she marries John from work, then it closes the door again.
Starting point is 00:13:28 And then when she has kids with John from work, it's really... It's really close. It's slammed. That's double bolted. It's like welded shut. But I think last night, the equivalent of, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:39 seeing a girl you weren't sure, is it really over? When you see her canoodling on her Instagram story and you know she's sleeping with the dude, that's you know the Lakers going to Dallas and those fans seeing him
Starting point is 00:13:52 in Lakers colors putting up 45 and they still cheered for him Yeah it's you know But it's Nico's fault So that's like the boss's fault That John is now with the girl It's yeah it's it's listen I think it's a beautiful moment for Luca
Starting point is 00:14:07 I'm glad you did last night I've seen so many different analogies But this is when I'm making up Based on some of the ones I saw He went into someone else's backyard last night, right? And he took over their grill. He's like, good, this is, no, this is my grill. He took a man
Starting point is 00:14:22 the grill last night. Someone else's house and scored 45 points. It used to be his grill. I know. Nobody was stopping him from taking the grill. The ex-husband comes back to his old house. He got kicked out of that he can't own anymore. And he's like, oh, I remember this grill. You know what that's like, yeah, perfect. It used to be my grill.
Starting point is 00:14:38 That's like me. I'm divorced, right? That's like me going back to my old house. You should do this. Just strutting in. Like, like, I'm I'm Vince McMahon with strut. Like I'm, no, like I'm, who am I? Conno McGregor? No, woo.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I'm naming all people that are not admirable. Other strut. Rick Flair. I'm strutting in there. Like I'm Rick Flair. And I am like, yeah, this used to be my house. This used to be my grill. And I pushed the new guy aside and I take over my grill again.
Starting point is 00:15:04 He essentially did last that last night in Dallas. But he didn't, though, because nobody wanted this. Like, they were like, please come cook for the last time. Clean it before you get here. That's true. Yes, that's true. That's from the fan side of things, though. You know, that's what makes it so messy.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Right. Because the fans. But Monty, if I really did that in my, you know, fantasy, yes. People would be cheering me on too. Like, yeah, Steve, do it. Most people would welcome you in to take the grill. No, but all my friends would.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Exactly. Yeah, man, your grill. That was your grill anyway. That's exactly. Right. Exactly. That's what really happened last night in the NBA. And, again, he's officially a Laker now.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I think he's going to play with a different fire. It's special. With that closure, Rich. It's special one time and one time only. Yeah. Moving forward, he goes back there. It's not a big deal at all. It's that one time.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I'll give you another great analogy. We might as well keep... Let's try to beat Colin Calhard with the number of analogies we did. I got another one. You can't beat him in his own game. Stars. Here's... Here's another analogy.
Starting point is 00:16:12 It doesn't need to be a relationship or a sport. It can be your workplace. Who worked in the studio before? before we were here. Give me like an old show that was respected. Like, at one point wasn't Jim Rome here. I don't know. Like some old guy. Some of them were dead. Like Rush, right? He worked here. Yeah, a lot of legends. Steve Harvey.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Give me someone that's alive. Steve Harvey? All right, Steve Harvey. There you go. How about the Jay Moore show? Jay Moore. It was in this time slot. Yeah. That's like if they came back here to visit, the people that were here a long time, would be like, oh my God, Jay's here. He'd wrote the red carpet. Someone ordered food. Oh, remember the good old. old days. Why is he in the bathroom so long? Why is there Jay Moore T-shirts draped over the seats?
Starting point is 00:16:53 And we don't have Kavino and Rich T-shirts. It would be one day where everyone that was new would feel a little inadequate because everyone's like, oh, I got J's here. He's got his two dogs with him. And then he, and then he went to the bathroom again. And then the second time he comes back, everybody like, oh, he's visiting again, huh? It's like if you visited your old high school, that first time when all the teachers saw you like oh my god how's college yeah and then if you came back again they'd be like you're excited you again that second goodbye is always awkward you know like oh oh okay it's like when covino embraced she and had tears crocodile tears and gave him a goodbye and then shay was back the next week and covino was like wait i say goodbye to you one of our
Starting point is 00:17:41 co-workers well we already made a deal when he actually really leaves i don't have to say goodbye again Oh, that's good. One of our favorite dudes here, Shea, one of the young editors, was like, guys, I'm leaving. I hate to go, but I'm gone. We all did give him a nice day. And then he's like, oh, by the way, I'm actually staying. I did feel like I gave too much of a nice goodbye. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I don't want that goodbye back. So a lot of emotions last night, very cool to see, very cool to see the Lakers embracing Luca in this way. You know, he's on their team now. they got a brotherhood on siblings day. Not to throw you in the spot. Nice win for the Lakers. Can you think of another nice homecoming? Like, oh, that legend went back home.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Like, I'm not thinking of it off the top of my head, but did Griffey as a red ever go back to Seattle? Were there moments where, yo, that was that guy, that was that team's guy? Like I can imagine maybe like Piazza's first time back as far as homecoming. At the Dodgers. Like, we're talking lifer that moves on. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I don't think Emmett Smith ever. ever played in Dallas again. Did he? I don't know. Well, when Michael Jordan was a wizard and he went to Chicago for the first time, that was, that was emotional. Yeah, that was a good one. Because it does have to be a team that's been with a team forever and goes back.
Starting point is 00:18:57 It's reserved for a star. Yeah. That's been there a long time. And they go back. Let me bring this up, too. Like I said, I would not want a camera in my face when in an emotional moment like that. But he let you in. He let you see that he's human and he's emotional.
Starting point is 00:19:13 and that it meant a lot. Way more composed than Bieber. Like I said before, did you see Justin Bieber flipped out on the paparazzi? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me ask you guys this question because it was a weird 48 hours. Yesterday, you were laughing Covino because we had heard it on the Dan Patrick show, the Ben Mallor show. Your boy Mad Dog Russo was screaming about it.
Starting point is 00:19:32 You can't even root for him. He whines so much. I had heard several guys say you can't root for him. And then last night I'm watching the highlights, and I'm hearing, this is why he's so easy to root for him. And I was like, huh? One day I'm hearing you can't root for this guy. That's why the next day I'm hearing guys say, that's why he's so easy to root for.
Starting point is 00:19:51 That's the weakest part of sports talk or the sports media is the double talking that you hear to fit the narrative every day. It'd be so much more genuine if you just owned it. Like, man, he just proved me wrong. Plain and simple. Lucas stepped up last night. And you're right. The day before, he's impossible to root for. I can't stand him.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Now he's a hero again. It's the fickle, the fickleness. Is that a word? fickleness. The fecality. The fecality of the sports fan and talking head on TV, even though we love a mad dog Russo. He wasn't the only guy that was saying that. The other thing I was going to say is that I throw no shade and I make no judgment on Luca for getting emotional. He's a fiery guy, which means on the flip side, he's bound to shed some tears during a montage. But I could be at a wedding of people I barely know. Wedding of people I barely know. And you don't want a good montage with sentimental music. Oh, yeah. I might shed one of my 96 Vato tears. Like, I'm like, I don't even know these people, and I'm getting emotional watching. Yeah, dude, I'm a slideshow or a montage.
Starting point is 00:20:52 It's just an emotional thing. You cried during one shining moment. I'm a disaster. I cried ever since I had kids. I cried anything. I cried at Tanner from Love on the Spectrum when he got to meet Jack Black. Yeah. So imagine how he fell with all these emotions, watching his highlights played, all his fans are cheering him.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And watching a baby Luca. Yeah. Give me a break. And his unfinished business and his memory is there. It all hit him at once. There is, I passed no judgment on him being emotional in that moment. Like I said, I watch videos of people I don't know and I want to cry. I was Sam.
Starting point is 00:21:27 You have some fan reaction to Luke's return. Take a listen. It was a little bit of both, you know, happy and angry, but, you know, it's nice to see. Some familiar faces here, you know, I spent a lot of times with them. Like you said, you know, it was a lot of emotional. when I woke up, I was tired. I didn't sleep much. I was excited about this game,
Starting point is 00:21:48 and I really appreciate the fans the way they reacted to me. You know, when you see a guy return to the old stomping grounds, you know, they all do the same thing, whether it's baseball, basketball, football. They always find the security guys they used to chop it up with. They're like, oh, there's the ground crew guy. You know, they do their rounds. It's that first time beautiful homecoming.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Security people. And then, like I said, like I said, then by the second time it's like, all right, we got that emotional moment out of our system. And he also talked about it being time to officially move on now. Everybody saw me the way I reacted to the video. You know, all these fans, I really appreciate it, man. All the teammates I had, you know, everybody had my back. So, I mean, I'm just happy, you know, this guy, I love these fans.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I love the city. But it's time to move on. Oh, and by the way, you know what else is really cool? We sort of touched on it. but I want to point it out specifically. You know the Kenbassiter, Le Ken, Le Ken, Braun James? I ordered my doll. I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You know LeBron has a new Ken doll out, right? Yes, of course. The Kenbasseter. But this LeBron doll has extra bulge. Does it come with flopping action or not? No, no flopping action. But I thought it was really cool and big of him, too, to lead the charge and support Luca the way he did in that moment.
Starting point is 00:23:09 It really shows that he. he and the Lakers have his back because I did notice LeBron being one of the biggest and bigger cheerleaders to the fans at that game. I thought that was cool to say. Luke is a star, but how long was he in Dallas? It was the start of his seventh year. Okay. So six and a half years, yeah. So what would Luca have to do to not be remembered as a Maverick?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Because, you know, when you think about stars that changed teams, I always think that there's an obvious team associated with every player. There's only a few where I'm like, ooh, interesting one. Like, I'll give you. It's Peyton Manning. Like, you think of him as a cult, but he won with the Broncos. Yeah. But he also with the cults.
Starting point is 00:23:47 But I still think he earned his time with the Broncos. Like, okay. When you win with a team, you'll be remembered with that team. To me, there's a guy that I feel like is the toughest one of all. And I mentioned them already coincidentally today. Mike Piazza. Is he a Dodger or met? I think, yeah, it depends who you ask, right?
Starting point is 00:24:06 There's very few times where you can name a superstar and not know. Now, LeBron, is LeBron a Laker or is he a calf? Like, when it was all said and done. I mean, I think it depends. I can't speak for Laker fans, but I would say he has to win another one in order to be a Laker. Yeah, I mean, I still feel like he's a calf. He's a calf, and then he's a Cave and then he's a Cave. He won more with every team but the Cater.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Like, he won one with the Calf. You're right, though, in the fact that if he wins another title with the Lakers, then that'll change. I think it will change. What if Luca spends four years with the Lakers, but win? wins. Is he a Laker? That will change, but he has to win, and he has to win more than one. Like, if he spends the next decade with the Lakers and wins one, I think people will still see
Starting point is 00:24:51 him as a Mav. How about Johnny Damon? Red Sock first? Yeah, Red Sox. Yeah, but he was a royal for so long and the Yankees. He won with the Yankees. Chris Paul. Where do you put Chris Paul?
Starting point is 00:25:04 A clipper? Clipper. Isn't that crazy to think, though? Yeah. What about a guy we lost this year? Ricky Henderson. Is he an A or a Yankee? He's an Oakland A for us. He's an A. That's coming from a Yankees. Yeah. Another thing that I haven't heard anyone really talk about, but I did see the highlight numerous times is the mutual respect and warm embrace, the friendly embrace between him and A.D. at the end of the game. That was really big and really cool to see. So you got to point that out too because, you know, they're forever linked. And you know what? Here's a thought I had when I was driving. I was like, I bet you're going to say I thought you had when you were drinking.
Starting point is 00:25:43 No. I only drink on the weekends. So last night, nope, today, nope, I was driving in. And I was thinking of that embrace. And I was like, I wonder what AD said to him. And imagine he said like, you know, we're not going to win this year, man. Go all the way, get me that ring. Because you know AD's going to get a ring if they win.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Yeah, but do you want to ring that way? Why not? To me it felt like, man, this has been a hard few months for both of us. you know what I mean that's what it felt like to me oh yeah yeah no doubt no doubt but I bet you like joke because there was a little bit of a joking
Starting point is 00:26:17 at the end of it I was like I wonder what was said at the end and AD was like and I still can't find a house here in Dallas but it was nice to see them all this attention for all this attention for us two guys like I don't know what are you saying those moments
Starting point is 00:26:29 it's like you know I'll tie it back to the other story rich it's like it's like seeing your girl's new guy do you really have animosity toward that guy if he wasn't in the picture. You know, like, yeah, whatever. He didn't do anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:45 You didn't do anything wrong. My problems with her, not you. And they were big enough to be like, hey, we were traded for each other. We're forever linked. There's a mutual respect here. I got no problem with you. Let's bring it in, man, and hug it out. And that was really cool, man.
Starting point is 00:26:58 So it was a really, really cool night, especially coming after a day where Luca was being dumped on all day yesterday for crying with the refs. And he was kicked out of the game to come back and score. 45 points in a big game like that, you got to give props for their due. Talk about a wild 24 to 48 hours for Luca. All right. Now, coming up, we'll take your feedback. A lot of phone calls.
Starting point is 00:27:20 We'll take your thoughts on Lucas' very strange 48 hours. Luca's big adventure. From, you know, villain who got thrown out of the game to the greatest homecoming of all time. We'll get to your thoughts on Luca. Plus, it's National Siblings Day. So we have a deep thought about siblings when we go old school. Dyer Wolves. We have to finish that conversation.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Guilty fandom. And there's a David Robinson story. A lot to get to right here. Kavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. So we've been talking about Travis Matthew for a minute now. You got to look into it, especially the MLB collection. I got these really sweet Yankee shirts and quarter zips and all my Yankees friends. Like, yeah, where'd you get those?
Starting point is 00:28:01 Because you've never seen them before. Because they're not on Travis Matthew.com. We're talking high quality Yankees shirts. Travis Matthew.com. And if you're going to make a springtime purchase or summertime purchase, 20% off when you sign up for email. Well, I've been telling you, every time we talk about Travis Matthew, I mention their featherweight jeans. They are more comfortable than sweatpants. They're the most comfortable things I've ever owned in my life.
Starting point is 00:28:23 The purchase of all purchases. Rich doesn't wear pajama pants anymore. He actually sleeps in his featherweight Travis Matthews. The indigo is like the lighter denim and I got the dark denim one. So as far as stepping up your jeans game. Well, you know what? That's actually great advice. because how many guys in our age range are like,
Starting point is 00:28:40 I don't know what kind of jeans to get. I haven't got new jeans in a while. What kind of. I'm telling you, the jeans to get the stretchable, breathable. Travis Matthew on. So, hey, go to Travis Matthew.com. Received 20% off your first order when you sign up for the email. Again, anything you could possibly want, do a little spring shopping.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Treat yourself. Again, Travis Matthew.com to receive 20% off that first order. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our.
Starting point is 00:29:12 own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 00:29:25 So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
Starting point is 00:29:45 We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.
Starting point is 00:30:04 We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where SportsSlice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls,
Starting point is 00:31:09 We break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I'm breaking down.
Starting point is 00:31:39 on everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jen, she won. I mean, she went down at three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lena Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the Eyeheart. radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:32:51 It's Covino and Rich. That's Rich trying to out-anology. Colin Cowherd. I try every day. We're live from the Tyraq.com studio. Express employment professionals can provide contract workers to flex up for peak seasons without having to raise your core workforce headcount. Manage your workforce differently.
Starting point is 00:33:11 visit expresspros.com today. That's expresspros.com. Two quick reminders. We're in for Dan Patrick next week. The Dan Patrick Hattrick, Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. So make no to that. Don't say we didn't warn you. Wake up with us early next week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And don't miss us too much. So catch the podcast if you're working. And overpromise, speaking of podcast, new bonus show today, episode 87 with Coach Ballgame. So I love that, dude. Yeah, he's cool. Well, if you have little kids that play sports, if you want to hear about new coaching techniques, if you have a niece or nephew that plays sports.
Starting point is 00:33:49 This guy is the G coach ball game. He works with Derek Jeter and Major League Baseball players. You go on his Instagram. He was just doing an ambassador. He was doing drills with Bobby Witt Jr. and some kids. So he's the man. So coach ball game on the bonus pod. You said flex?
Starting point is 00:34:08 Yeah. You need to be one rando gym question before we take these Luca phone calls? If we must. Have you sit down on a machine? Mm-hmm. Peck dick. I don't know. Doing curls for the girls, as you say.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Mm-hmm. No, I do pecks for the same. Jesus. If someone comes up to you, the minute you get on the machine and say, yeah, how many do you have left? Are you allowed to say, I just started, like, beat it. I'll just say, I don't know, about 35 sets. make something
Starting point is 00:34:39 I thought did I tell the story here where I saw an old guy dismiss a kid at the gym? Yeah, you have. The kid was like, hey, how many more do you have? And the old guy's like,
Starting point is 00:34:46 a lot, get out of here. You know, especially if they're wearing crocks and pajama pants. Yeah, you're allowed to dismiss it. Let's say hi to you guys on a rando fun Kavino and Rich Thursday. Mike in Utah, your thoughts on
Starting point is 00:34:59 Luca last night, an emotional evening in the NBA. Hey, can you hear me? Yeah, what's up, buddy? Hey, not much. My thoughts on this. is it broke my heart to actually start to like Luca last night. I'm a Utah Jazz man.
Starting point is 00:35:14 All we have in Utah is Utah Jazz and now Jordan Love football. And to think back to 2022 in the playoffs when we had Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert. And it felt like we had a chance to go to the championship. Nothing broke my heart more than halfway to this series. Luca coming back and then just torching us and ruining all of our hopes and dreams for the last. Sometimes you just got to tip your hat. And you know what? we've made this point several times.
Starting point is 00:35:39 We touched on it this week. There's nothing wrong at rooting for players. You can't just all of a sudden root for the Lakers. You know, it's not your team, but you can root for Luca and acknowledge how great he is. It's like the Dodgers beat the Yankees last year. I acknowledge how great Shohei Otadi is. You know, you can't deny it.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I think you're allowed to also say, hey, if my team's not in the mix this year, what storyline will I get enjoyment of? What players do I like? Yeah, they're fun to watch. Certain players is just fun to watch. Let's say how to Jude in Virginia. What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:36:08 C&R. How's what's going on? What's up? Hey, buddy. I just wanted to comment on how the Luca thing. So a reunion was with, he was like kind of wavering at the beginning. Like after he got signed by the Dodgers from the Braves and he had that big reunion at Atlanta. And everyone was just cheering him on and he got really emotional and like he went off.
Starting point is 00:36:33 And after that I feel like a switch just clicked on him. And he just like sort of really performed for the Dodgers. Dude, that's a great example. That whole thing with his agent. remember yeah that's a really great example it's very similar neither guy wanted to leave they both left they came back they got emotional and they got their closure and turned it on i was gonna say that should be what danny's hoping for yeah you should be hoping for oh hell yeah you should be hoping for like it's it's uh it's the closure one needs like you said in a relationship a job or anything maybe now
Starting point is 00:37:01 luca is a hundred percent honed in and focus there's no lingering because let's be honest you know that up until last night he knew like oh it's a week and a day I need to see Luca do a statue of liberty celebration now as the Lakers win the finals la Freddie Freeman I just know that you don't think Luca had that date on his calendar
Starting point is 00:37:20 in the back of his head no doubt he had last night mentally on his mind oh yeah it's probably weighing on the return to Dallas sure maybe that's why he was so belligerent the night before it's just emotional crazy man Stephen in Washington State
Starting point is 00:37:35 wrapped us up what's up man Hello, Stephen. Hey, what's up, guys? Yeah, I remember when Griffey came back to Seattle. I was at the game when his Cincinnati Red is like 2007. Yep. And he hit two home runs, two bombers, and the crowd cheered louder for him when he hit those home runs than when we actually won the game.
Starting point is 00:37:59 But it was such an emotional experience. It is fantastic. I've been to games where a player comes back, not a magnitude of a Griffey, but I remember moments where like their first at bat, everyone was like cheering. And then by the second or third at bat, it's like, all right, you're on the other team now. Mm-hmm. I think we got it past us and this should be a very interesting postseason. How will Luca react moving forward?
Starting point is 00:38:20 Danny, I know you're hoping in a big way. We shall see. You want to go to Mazi? Let's do it. Update time. What's up, Balaños? Fellas, the Masters is going on, which is why Dan Byer is not here. It's like a holiday for him and join it at home peacefully.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Exactly. Celebrate. And Justin Rose is in the lead. He is eight under par through 17 holes. Corey Connors and Scotty Schaeffler and Rory McElroy are all tied for second. They are four shots back. Connors and Sheffler are done for the day. McElroy is through 14 holes.
Starting point is 00:38:53 So still play in round one. In Major League Baseball right now, the Rockies have taken the lead from the Brewer, six to two, bottom of the eighth inning, bottom of the sixth inning between the Blue Jays and the Red Sox that are scoreless. The Royals edge the twins, three to two, the Guardians completed a three-game sweep of the White Sox. Six to one was the final score. And the Angels hit six homers today.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Two from Mike Trout, two from Taylor Ward, two from Joe Adele in the same inning, and they crushed the raise 11 to 1. Angels are off to an eight-and-four start. Can I make a prediction? Go ahead. And this is based on nothing, okay? I love it.
Starting point is 00:39:29 But you bring Mike Trout into the update. Yeah. I'm predicting a bit of a comeback season for him. You know, he's played injured to past few years. So if he's healthy, he's still Mike Trout. Yeah. Same thing with Christian Yellich. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Because he's hitting bombs. He hit a bomb yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We forget that these dudes were mastodons in the game that were hurt. I'm predicting if they stay healthy, they've gotten off to good starts. Might be big years for them. And they may end up somewhere else. We don't know if they play big.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Yeah, maybe. And with the Angels, they have a lot of young talent. Like, you really don't know what they're capable of, but they just haven't delivered in the last couple of years. Lastly, here, Penn State Defense of Mets. Abdul Carter, who may go number one overall in the upcoming NFL draft. Well, the medical recheck in Indianapolis today showed that the stress reaction in his foot is healing. There's been improvement.
Starting point is 00:40:15 No surgery is going to be needed. This is according to his agent. Back to you guys. Maybe the no smartphone policy from Ron Washington is working, right? He said Mike Trout and some of the team leaders were behind. Less distractions. Yeah, why not? Have these young players bond?
Starting point is 00:40:32 No TikTok? No Instinct? I mean, you got to shake it up every once in a while. Good for Ron Washington. Good for them. Now, it is National Siblings Day. So shout out brothers, Ermanos of Fox Sports Radio.
Starting point is 00:40:45 So we're going to talk about that. Old school when 50 hits in about 10 minutes, nine minutes. And David Robinson is in the news. So we've got to talk about him. All coming up right here. Fox Sports Radio, Covino and Rich. Tires matter.
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Starting point is 00:41:42 That's Tyrax.com slash sports. Tyrax.com the way tire mine should be. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
Starting point is 00:41:58 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name,
Starting point is 00:42:11 Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an acapella with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.
Starting point is 00:43:44 The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action
Starting point is 00:43:59 with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice. On the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slica Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis. And I know firsthand because I competed there myself.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on clay. Jen Chinchin win. I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lernerabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And I actually can win on any surface. Because if she's serving, well, good luck. Consider this your court side seat to the French Open. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Don't sweat our technique. CNR on FSR. of the greatest bass lines of all time. Covum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Covino and Rich. And Rakim. Eric B. and Rakim, if you're listening to the podcast in the future, you don't hear the music on the podcast, but we appreciate you listening.
Starting point is 00:46:06 And speaking of podcasts, our bonus pod with Coach Ballgame today, episode 87, So catch up on all 87 of them after today. That debuts live at 4 p.m. on the West 7 p.m. on the east overpromised on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. Iowa Sam on the ones and twos, Danny G. Monce. Spots on the videos at Covino Enrich. Live from the tire rack.com studio. And again, after the show, not only our bonus pod,
Starting point is 00:46:33 but our regular podcast goes up every day. There's even a best of the week that Danny G puts up on Saturday. So be sure to follow, rate and review our podcast. Search Covino Enrich. wherever you stream. And don't forget, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, we're filling in for Dan Patrick. The Dan Patrick hat trick.
Starting point is 00:46:51 So if you listen to Dan in the morning, we'll be keeping you company the early part of next week. But, Lay, let's look at the clock. It's time. We're going old school. There's a search. Yeah. What we're going to do right here is go back.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Back into time. Throwing it back for a Thursday. Old school when 50. 50 hits at 50 after. CNR give you the time capsule topic, and we reminisce together. Yeah! Today's National Siblings Day. So this is a two-part doozy.
Starting point is 00:47:26 What does that mean? Does that mean we have to call our siblings today? You have to post a picture on social media on everyone? Yeah, I see a lot of that on social media with hashtag National Siblings Day. I did that in my IG stories. So if you go to Steve Kavino, you could see my, well, we call it the mutant version theory. So if you know what I look like, right? Let's say your eyes are accustomed to my face.
Starting point is 00:47:47 You can see all the mutant versions of me. My other siblings. Whoever you know, all their siblings look like mutants to you. Like I Was Sam, do you have any siblings? Yes, an older sister. If we looked at Iowa Sam's older sister, we'd probably be like, oh, it's like, I was Sam with a wig. Right, right. You would be like, yeah, Iowa Sam's the mutant.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Right, right, right. It's my sister. She just looks better. But Sam. She looks better as a woman. She looks better as a offspring of my parents. Yes, just as a human. Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:15 To my brother's friends, because I have a brother, right? To my brother's friends, I'm the mutant version of him. You see how it is? Like, it's whoever you're accustomed to, whoever you meet first. But today, I guess you honor your siblings. So shout out to my sister Grace, Donnie, Jennifer, my brother, Tomasito. I have, well, there's five of us in my family. Rich has a brother and a sister, Jimmy and Lori.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Now, here's where we're going to. Jim Blunkett. Yeah, named after Jim Plunkett. And I think my dad loved Jimmy Conner's little short shorts. and you were named after Richard Simmons, right? Shut up. That's what I heard. That's what I heard.
Starting point is 00:48:48 So here's the double dozy on Richard Nixon. National Siblings Day. I do not tell lies. Number one, I want you to name your favorite sports siblings. That's not a conversation. You just got to throw it out there. You know how DP they say they're age and weight or something like that, right?
Starting point is 00:49:04 Their height and weight. So you start with that. You start with favorite sports siblings. And then we have to be impressed. You have to tell us a quick, funny story. about one of your siblings. And we judge if it's funny enough, because we will, we will buzz you if it's bad. Remember the storytelling rules on the radio that we go with too, Rich. A beginning, a middle, an end, around 30 to 40 seconds. Quick. Yeah, make a snappy. All right. We get you
Starting point is 00:49:28 involved every Thursday, old school, and 50 hits. 87799 on Fox and at Covino and Rich. Don't need the details, Covino, of like what, what was the name of the restaurant that the story took place. We were in an Italian place. I think it was called. Maybe it was called. Well, Pansettella's. No, wait. No, it was Maria's. No, no, no, no, I believe. No, you don't need that.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I ordered a margarita. Wait, no, maybe it was an old-fashioned. Hold on. What was I drinking again? I know. I'm going to start. Can I start? Sure, please.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Sports siblings. I'm going to Ripkins. Just because I like the Billy Ripkin F-face card. All right. Part of the collection. So I'm going Ripkin Bros. And my brother is just a clown. There's so many stories to tell about my brother, top Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:50:08 But sometimes your siblings will say a quote, and it sticks with them the rest of their lives. Oh, it's the best. Like something dumb, they said, at a restaurant at a family event or something, right? My brother went with my sister. They were about around the same age. They went to a club when they first turned like 18, 19. My siblings are like friends.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I'm older, so I never hung with them that way, right? My brother goes, Jimmy, where'd you go? Apparently he went out to the dance floor. She goes, you were dancing. He goes, no, no, I don't dance. I grind. Until this day, every time we see my brother, we're like, Yeah, no, Jimmy doesn't dance.
Starting point is 00:50:42 But he really meant it. He grinds. He grinds. He grinds. He's on the grind. I mean, this is also my brother who was trying to figure out the name. He goes one time, what's the name of that the big green guy in Shrek? We're like, Shrek?
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah, that's Tom's Jimmy. That guy. I mean, I have a story about your brother. I mean, go right ahead. Kavino's brother, Tommy. He does appraisals for a living. So this guy goes around appraising grown men and women's homes. Oh, this is classic.
Starting point is 00:51:09 And he was writing. down in his notes, he had heard the phrase, Florida ceiling windows. But he thought everyone was saying Florida ceiling window. So for a while, he was noting, yeah, they got Florida ceiling windows. He's like, wait. He's like Keanu a little bit. He's like, wait a minute. You mean it's not Florida ceiling windows? No, it's Florida ceiling windows. Whoa. Oh, I have another good one about your brother. I mean, I got stories about my brother too, which one? Do you remember when you convince your brother? Remember Redbox when you would get DVDs? Yeah. Remember you? Maybe you convince your brother that they hired little people to sit inside
Starting point is 00:51:47 there? And he believed it. And he was not like a kid. He was like 20 years old. Yeah, so that is true. That's a tough labor deal right there. He might still believe it. It's got to get hot in there, you know? Yeah, a little stuffy. So again, give us your favorite brothers in sports and your story about your sibling and make it snappy. We get to your phone calls and your feedback. And of course, we still got a great story about David Robinson. And I know, Sam, You're excited to talk about dire wolves and woolly mammoths and what's going on in the world. More CNR. Next. Hey, guys, it's us.
Starting point is 00:52:26 The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:52:35 We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app. podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smyl and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Rob. Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode,
Starting point is 00:53:35 we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets. to hear. Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicalifle 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. I'm Michelle McPhee, and I've been unraveling the strangest criminal alliance I've ever reported on, a Mormon polygamist and an Armenian businessman. Multi-million dollar house, Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, a billion dollar fraud.
Starting point is 00:54:15 But how long can this alliance last? Tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no-nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. Jen, you win. She's an outsider. to win the French fame. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lennar Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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