The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Lakers Outcoached in Loss, LeBron Will Be Back

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

The Lakers lost to a better team and were severely out coached last night against the Timberwolves.Seemed like the Warriors gave up last night.LeBron James will be back next season.More details are coming out about Bill Belichick's relationship with Jordon Hudson.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They are, how did Minnesota lose a game in this series? It's over. J-MACC Humble Pie. But you know what? We always bring Chris Finch on the show that the T. Wolves coach during the season. I think next time we call him, he will be available once again. I mean, that was impressive. A very, very crazy ending.

It's a three-strike game for the latest. Right good. Okay, here we go. Simplest explanation. Chris Finch and his staff worked JJ Redick and his staff. worked J.J. Reddick and his staff, and Minnesota's best players outplayed the Lakers best players. I mean, Austin Reeves, a no-show. LeBron last couple of games looked tired, and Luca's worst qualities were exposed.

There was a late sequence in this game with about 2.45 left. It was a late sequence where Julius Randall blew by Luca and scored. Okay, so he blows by Luca. It's right here, just blows by him and scores. On the other end, Luca misses a layup and then complains about it to the referee. And while he's complaining, the T-Wolves in transition and scores on the other end, from a two-point game to ball game, Luca Dazical. And by the way, I'm not saying the Mavs won the trade with the Lakers, but Nico Collison slept very well last night. Harrison, excuse me, Nico Harrison, slept very, very well last night. Listen, LeBron

in the fourth quarter, the last two games, you saw it. He was tired. He was gassed. Two for nine from the floor. And the Lakers in this series in the fourth quarter, they got worked. And that was about a tired LeBron and a coaching staff in Minnesota that pulled all the right levers. The Lakers in the fourth quarter scored 17, 13, 20, 19, 16. And J.J. Redick's insistence got very stubborn. His insistence to play only five guys the entire second half of game four, which is bizarrely, I mean, it's historically bizarre.

That's the only thing I can say. I'm not a coach. It's just historically, I've never seen. it. I've never thought it would be discussed. This is a small ball team that was already outsized the entire series and outrebounded the entire series. So you're the smaller or less physical team and you're going to play your guys the entire second half. And one of them is in his 40s. Okay. And JJ Reddick, before the game, got very defensive about this. Is there an assistant or someone maybe that you'll lean on tonight, maybe to try to get, you know, some other guys involved if that opportunity presents something?

Are you saying that because I'm inexperienced and that was an inexperienced decision that I made? Do you think I don't talk to my assistants about substitutions every single time out? No, I just think there's a lot of coaches lean on their assistants in those situations. As do I, every single time. That's a weird assumption. No, it's not the moment to be the coolest, smartest guy in the room. You went heavy small ball. With the oldest star in the league, you didn't sub him. And LeBron looked tired in game four in the end, and he looked tired last night.

Plus, Minnesota, which was already a bigger team, leaned into their size. Rudy Gobert, a defensive player might as well have been Wilt Chamberlain last night. He was unstoppable. That's on coaching. And by the way, JJ, what is Maxie Kleber doing on the floor late? This was a coaching mismatch. Julius Randall and McDaniels-Gobert. They outplayed the Lakers players and the T-Wolves own the fourth quarter.

The fourth quarter is not just the Stars quarter. It's the coaching quarter. This is not a complicated breakdown. Better coach, better decisions, a more complete roster, and better fourth quarters. I mean, LeBron wasn't terrible in the fourth. He was clearly exhausted, probably not going to play him an entire second half when you're already the smaller team. And by the way, Chris Finch and his guys, his staff, they were already bigger. They made an adjustment to make Rudy Gobert the centerpiece last night.

And you're playing late Maxie Kleber. What are we doing here? So in the playoffs, let's be honest about it. They're truth serum. Austin Reeves. Y'all love him. But in the playoffs, when it's the same teams playing the same guys night after night after night. Austin Reeves moves into town, you're tired, you played last night, he drops 22.

Wow. He's undrafted, and Minnesota exposed him. They sent their drafted better athletes at Austin Reeves, and he didn't do anything. The playoffs are truth serum. And the truth is, this Laker roster is incomplete. J.J. Reddick made a bad decision in game four and got defensive about it. And the fourth quarters, T. Wool's players, were better than the Lakers stars. It's not a shot at LeBron or even Luca.

Although, can we now all be honest about Luca's conditioning and defense? They're going after him regularly. Here was Charles Barkley on J.J. Reddick's pushback, anger, and rigidity. He's just a little sensitive. Listen, one of the things that people say they never watched television, we all lie. All jocks watch television. And he's being criticized the last four, eight hours, for playing those guys. And he's just sensitive.

Just say, hey, you know what? If I had it, everybody's afraid to say I was wrong. All he had to do is say, hey, you know what, I shouldn't have played those guys the whole second half, and that's it. Then it would have been over. We always consider in America football to be the coach's sport. But you get into the playoffs, and I watch this series, and I'm not just saying this, because I don't know, JJ Reddick. I know Chris Finch a little, but there was one coaching staff pulling all the right levers on this. And Minnesota, I mean, that was so obvious last night.

Remember we talked about this yesterday? they were a six and a half point underdog. I'm like, are the Laker players getting taller? Is LeBron getting younger? Like, they were bigger and they leaned in to Rudy Gobert. So they clearly, as a staff said, guys, we got an edge here. Size doesn't get smaller. Fast guys can get slower over a series.

But size doesn't get smaller, and they just went all in on Gobert, and he was unstoppable. Rudy Gobert, his entire career, has been, Stoppable. Completely stoppable. Last night he was unstoppable. I mean, Maxie Kleber? Playing guys an entire second half?

I'm sorry. Coaching better, players better, levers pulled, better roster. Okay, here's another thing. So I have been on this topic. The Warriors got smoked and, I mean, they wave the white flag eight minutes in. Good for Houston.

I'm going to be wrong on this series. Golden State is going to go back home and probably win it. But I've been on this forever. You don't need seven games in the first round. When this league was at its most popular with MJ, first round was five games. League was never more popular. It's all greed. I mean, you all told me Florida's going to win the national championship. In a sudden death tournament in March, they did. Okay, four number one seeds made the final four. Okay, you don't need seven games to learn waters wet. So what happened last night is it was an embarrassment for the NBA. I mean, it was a white flag.

raise it three minutes into the game the other thing that happened is Houston the bigger longer more physical team with a lot of energy and a lot of good young players they went after Steph Curry's hand or at least that's what people are claiming that they were grabbing him and banging on it and I got to be honest I'm not sure it's it's a bad strategy I mean if you know that a team has already mailed it in it'd be one thing if the game was close you couldn't worry about that you'd have to worry about the game but Houston's like yeah, the game's over.

All right. Let's leave a little bit of damage here. And let's grab and clutch and push and bang on Steph Curry. And whether they did it purposefully or not, when you're playing games where one team has decided, hey, let's just take the flight home and wrap it up. You gave Houston an opportunity to think about some things, not have to worry about game strategy.

to maybe make this one a little more interesting when you go home. So this is why I've said before. First round should be three games. Well, what if blankety blank loses? Yeah. What if they do? College basketball has significantly inferior basketball to the NBA. Yet March Madness gets big ratings because you have to watch the games.

You have to watch the games. But yet the number one seeds all show up. Florida, you told me they were going to win, does. Why? You don't need, you don't need seven games. First round, you don't need. I don't think you need five. I'd go three games into five finals, only for historical purposes. We can play seven. I would have no problem with the finals being five, but World Series, NBA finals, it's been seven.

Let's just do it that way. But I thought this was a bad look for the NBA, and I'm looking at stats this morning, is the average margin of victory in these playoffs. and there have been great games and great series. It's the second highest ever. There's been too many unwatchable blowout games. And I mean wave the flag four minutes in games, which gave the Rockets a chance to go Steph hunting.

And here was Steve Kerr after. Players are going to do whatever they're allowed to do. And so after every, on every release, you know, Steph's getting hit. But it's basically within the, the rules. So this is how the league wants it right now. And, you know, I know we got 30 coaches who all think it's just idiotic that we allow this. So players all over the league are just taking shots at guys shooting hands after release because they know it's not going to be a foul.

Yeah. Here's the other thing, why I do not like a seven-game series until the finals. One of the things all leagues want, I mean, if you're a major league baseball, if you're Rob Manfred. I want Aaron Judge playing for the next 15 years. I hope he's wobbling out to the field. He's a star attraction. In the NFL, I want Patrick Mahomes playing forever. That's why the NFL doesn't let you hit the

quarterbacks. Keep your icons forever. You want all your stars playing into Brady years. In the basketball world, you want to extend Steph. The way to extend him isn't have him play meaningless games, which your entire staff and organization acknowledges.

Let's just get back home. I mean, Stefan Butler, Stefan Butler did not have a point between the two of them in the second quarter. A decision had been made. I'm not knocking the decision by Kerr. I'm not knocking the decision by the Warriors. They don't have the length, the size, the dexterity, and frankly, they don't have the youth.

They can't give you a great game and a loss. They're like saving the energy. I would do it too. Draymond 30s, Butler 30s, Curry 30s. Pod's the only young guy they can count on. But I thought this was another example. of what are we doing here? No reason this should be a seven-game series.

And it was, and Houston said, all right, you're going to mail it in. We can mess around a little. And whether they did or not, it's not illegal. All right, J-Mack, by the way, for those wondering about Steph, we have a picture of his thumb. It was bad going in. It's probably worse this morning.

And, you know, Steve Kerr was speaking for a lot of coaches when he said, you know, you're letting all this stuff. physicality happen. Again, I am for physicality, you're against it, you know, you're more finesse, I'm more power. I'm not against it. I just think that too much is too much. You want Curry getting hurt, you want Tatum getting hurt? I mean, geez, you lose Anthony Edwards or something

to a goonish foul next round. It's like, come on, what are we doing? I just don't love the big time physical play. I'm sorry, I'm not a huge thing. Okay, we got good stuff today. Rachel Nichols will have more about this coming up. Just a fun day. The Lakers are done. And I've mostly been a LeBron defender.

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For the record, just to tell you, and I think it's fair to say, I'm not somebody that bangs on NBA coaches a lot, But Julius Randall and Rudy Gobert last night are out playing LeBron and Luca. That's coaching. Like, right? That is coaching. Part of that is playing Luca and LeBron in game four the entire second half. I know they have a couple of days off, but they also had to fly cross-country. Or, you know, Minneapolis to L.A. three and a half hours.

You know, you get in late. You got to shoot around the day of the game. Like, LeBron needs time off. That's why LeBron was more effective. early in this series and in first halves than late. So it's just a coaching decision I don't agree with. But the fact that Julius Randall,

who had never been a great playoff guy, had a tremendous series. That's Chris Finch and the staff, and it was game one. It was like, guys, they don't match up with him. And then Rudy Gobert looking like Walt Chamberlain last night, that's the best playoff game he's ever played. Why? That's matchups.

That's matchups. So, I mean, and we don't talk a lot of coaching. We talk about MJ this, MJ that. Michael Jordan was in Chicago and was really good, but he won, went in big titles in fourth quarters until Phil Jackson showed up. Coaching matters in this sport. So, listen, I've been a LeBron defender, I mean, 99% of the stuff. A little bit of the too much brawny kind of manufacturing stuff there I don't love, but it's his son, I get it. But this is where LeBron's critics, you know, they've always said, oh, he plays the victim, he extends,

drama and I you know whatever he's a superstar in America it happens but he was asked last night if he's coming back we all know the answer to this here was here was his thoughts I don't know I don't have the answer to that something I sit down with my family my wife and my support group and kind of just talk through it and see what happens and then I just have a conversation with myself on how long I to continue to play. It's a business too, so you don't know what the roster I look like next year besides the guys that's locked into contracts. So we don't, I mean, I got a lot to think about myself. So I don't know what the roster will look like. I don't know what I'm, you know, where I stand right now. I do as one of the 10 best players, you're coming back. This is what he

said last year after the loss to Denver. There's been a lot of comps to Tom Brady for LeBron and they make sense, totally committed, winning late in their career, bizarrely good for their age. But this is where he's got a little Brett Farrv, kind of seeking, you know, assurance, drama, please come back. Stop. LeBron against the Timberwolves struggled in fourth quarters. He should for his age. But he did average 25 and 9. that was second on the team and first on the team.

By the way, his last 15 playoff games, he's ever 27, 8, and 8, shooting 54%. He's a top 10 player in the game. He looked tired in this series. Yeah, game four second half had a lot to do with the last two fourth quarters. Sorry, that's on JJ Reddy. I don't care if you ask LeBron, hey man, can you play the entire second half? You don't play LeBron the entire second half. what you saw at the end of game four and the end of game five is LeBron basically losing his legs,

doing a great job defensively, but he didn't have his jumper and he didn't have quite the burst, which is totally explainable. So LeBron, you're coming back. Just ask yourself this. If LeBron announced his retirement in a week, would it not be shocking? Of course it would. If LeBron announced in a week he's coming back, would you be shocked? No.

and that's why we don't need the drama. We all know the answer here. He's got another son. He enjoys, I mean, listen, Luca was disappointing, but you're going to tell me, he's not going to come back for Luca, who will probably be in, if not great shape, better shape?

LeBron's coming back. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. I think you might have just given me my lead for tomorrow, big guy. Yes, anyways, let's go to

tonight's big game. How about this? Pistons Knicks, Colin. Big one from Detroit. Nix are hoping to polish off Detroit. Cade Cunningham. Kid's been on fire in his first playoff series. He all but guaranteed Detroit will be back at MSG for game

seven. Bold words from a pretty mild mannered guy. However, Detroit is 0 and 2 at home in the series against the Knicks. Two tough late losses, Colin. Who you got tonight? By the way, you want to guess the line? I was surprised by this. Okay. Don't, let me think. Detroit minus one and a half.

Oh, come on. Somebody told you. Damn, you nailed that. No, you didn't tell. You guys didn't tell me. Nothing. Okay. I was surprised, honestly. Now, maybe Brunson and Hart are not 100%. They went down late in game five. Well, I mean, I mean, we're watching this thing. is there's an argument late in games. Cade Cunningham's the best player on the floor. Whoa.

And, well, I think he's the best athlete on the floor. Best athlete, okay. Jalen Brunson was like the clutch time winner in the NBA this year for points. No, no, I like Jalen Brunson, but home teams can get a friendly whistle. What if Jalen doesn't get that fourth quarter whistle? Because Kate Cunningham probably will. We got Cade stats here in the first round. Listen, man, 258 and 8, 1.6 steals, 1.4.4.

four blocks. I don't know why you don't. When you watch him, how do you not see him as the best player in the series? Well, he's a little younger than Brunson, not his experience. Brunson's been in these battles in college, in the NBA. I would take Brunson now. Going forward, like who you want the next five years, Kate Cunningham, obviously. This would do a lot for the Cunningham John Morant debate. Is there one, by the way? No. I just thought of this. If Detroit wins tonight. You know all those nerds that are always like, the games are rigged? Oh, gosh. Can you imagine the NBA if it was rig saying, okay, I want the T-wolves to knock the Lakers and LeBron out quickly? I want the Knicks to get dusted off by the pistons, and

somebody hurt Steph Curry. Also, also, Adam Silver, I want Rudy Gobert to look like Wilt. I mean, literally what is happening is the, oh, oh, an Oklahoma City in Cleveland, I want them to be the best teams for all the good ratings hype and they've had a great playoff run so far Colin i'm a little nervous going forward for the NBA because you know all these ratings watchers look the ratings are down they're down oh the legs got problems eliminate the quarter three eventually eventually a boston and cleveland play that will be one for the ages you're going to have like nine elite players like nine a minus up players on the floor. That's going to be an insane series.

Yeah, to go back to your American basketball players list. Donovan Mitchell has to be top five. For a young basketball, we're eliminating Curry, Durant, LeBron. Donovan Mitchell's awesome, and you're right. They've got to get by the Pacers first, Colin. I don't think that's a lock, but we'll have plenty of time to talk about that. Let's move to the NFL. And it's Shedurr Sanders time. We're still talking about him. The members are still burning, but it's because Travis Kelsey is coming out in defense. of Shadur Sanders, he's upset about all this bashing of Shadour in pre-draft interviews. I think whoever's an anonymous person that's saying this should come out and say who they

were and what the fuck is that about? Like if you're going to leak that type of shit and be the one that says that yeah, it just didn't go well for us. You know, don't say that we're anonymous, you know, that's so lame. Like, I don't know. I just feel like there's no validity to it. This is going to be such a fresh start for him. And now it's going to feel, I can see him working his ass off and becoming the starting quarterback in Cleveland at some point for sure. Okay, two things are true. I think he's going to become the starter too. But in my world, let me defend anonymous sources. The reason, I'm going to dinner tonight with a really good source. The reason anonymous sources are great because people are willing to be harsher and more honest, if it's a lot, I'm going to

anonymous. I'll give you an example. Nobody wants to humiliate Shadoor and put their name on it, because if you're a scout, who I have as a source, you're going back to Colorado. So you don't have to love anonymous sources, but you, the audience, if you watch this show, are rewarded by that anonymity because I get more brutally honest takes. So this idea that every anonymous source is bad, I want in my job, I'm a conduit to the audience. I talk to sources, then I talk to the audience. You deserve and want the best stuff. You're not getting it with quotes.

You're going to get cliched stuff. Oh, he's a terrific player. Listen, the New York Giants interview was bad. Okay, Brian Daibble won't publicly hammer him, but the people that are saying it was bad are people I trust and have for years, one of them a friend of Brian Babel. So it went really poorly.

It's important for the audience and us to know that. Right? Like it validates why stuff, especially when somebody drops precipitously, historically, you're like, what in the, we want an answer. Okay, I don't. Our government doesn't always get us an answer. Usually in sports, we get finality and an, and I've also said this, the draft J. Mack, more than anything we cover. We get lied to before the draft more than anything we cover. I've said that for as long as I've been on radio. That's why I rely on like four guys I know. I don't bring any stragglers in because you can just get manipulated as a media member. So my only pushback, and again, anonymous sources work, they're fine.

Why is it that 90% of anonymous sources are negative? Why don't we get the opposite end of the spectrum? This guy crushed every interview. He's going to dominate. Why? Because you could just put your name on that. You're not afraid. Why are 90% of things you say to your wife positive?

Because you don't look good in that dress ruins the night. right 90% of the things I say to Anne are positive occasionally and with great discretion all be critical but and she's probably the same for me so the bottom line is if you have friends you ever had a great friend and you're positive around him you may once a year say bro that doesn't work but you know how rigid guys are you don't keep banging on sometimes you don't say the harshest truth to people because a it's mean be there's no payoff for you but you'll dog cush your buddy to another buddy and say, dude, Jim's a nut case. You know, this idea that honesty is always the great answer.

Our presidents aren't always honest. Our governors, our senators, our CEOs. That's what's getting the White House in all this trouble when you surround yourself with yes men. I want the brutal honesty. Listen, when we talk, Colin off air, and if I ever step out of pocket, I want you to check me. I don't want you to go complaining to management. Come to me, be like, J. Mack, you can't do that. can't say it. Now, you haven't done that, so I think we're rolling, right? But I want to

honest. If that was the rule, I'd be doing that six times a day to you. Stop, this guy. This guy. All right, final story is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now, this is a great pick. We both love Abuka out of Ohio State. He went 19th. Just a great offensive weapon. Now, Jason liked your boy, the GM, talked about how he was a top 10 player on the Tampa board and essentially this is kind of insurance for Chris Godwin hey buddy don't rush back we just got abuka so I kind of like this pick for Tampa they've still got three really good receivers good quarterback they've had some changes with the OC because their OC keeps getting plucked um I'm not sure what I have on Tampa this year do it where are you on them well I think they're I think they're

the most talented team I think Atlanta's got some really interesting pieces but I don't know what Michael Pennix is going to be but I will say this about Ibuka and Jason lights a great GM. I've been bragged about him for several years. He is one of the great all-time scouts in the league. He became a GM. He was such a profound scout. But the truth is, in a draft that didn't have a lot of stars, I said this before the draft. Of the three people I asked about, Emeka Igbuka, there was not even a, but great kid, great character, great brouts, great work ethic, mostly slot, could play side. There wasn't even a criticism. Now, people said, you're not going to run a 4-29.

But there wasn't a single butt. And you get players like that in great drafts. But everybody I talked to was like, oh, no, this kid is absolutely can't miss. We generally look at a can't-miss player, J-Mack, as a five-star. Like Aiden Hutchison at Michigan is like, can't miss. Okay, that's obvious because he's just so dominant. or a Reggie White out of Tennessee or a Charles Woodson out of Michigan

you're like, that's a can't miss. This was a can't miss based on some athleticism, but there are certain football players, a GM once told me this, you can tell their work ethic by their game. And one of those positions is wide receiver. Another one of those positions is offensive tackle.

You can see the work they've put in them. The great ones have better hands. They're more coachable. This kid's going to be a, stud for Tampa. I totally agree. Like him a lot. I was looking to see if they played Dallas because a lot of Dallas fans are ticked off. They didn't get Golden or a

Bucca because they need a receiver. Colin, I'm looking at the Tampa schedule, and I'm sure we'll do this when the schedule comes out. But holy hell, these are the road games for your division winning bucks. At the Rams, that's a loss. At Seattle, outdoors, we don't know. At Miami, we'll see if it's in the heat or not.

At Buffalo, definite loss. At Detroit, loss. at Houston. Division winner. Lost. Dude, that is a tough schedule, my friend. No. You got to, first of all, easy division, and with Baker Mayfield and the weapons, they're going to win one of those games. Well, go head to head. I got Falcons. You got Tampa Bay. I haven't made my call yet.

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So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my

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games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. First of all, Tom Palisarro

was on the Rich Eisen Show yesterday and said the Niners and Brock Pretty are not close. He thinks it'll get done, but he said, hey, they're not close. And my take on that is, if Brock Pretty wants $57 million a year and his agent, not necessarily a well-known agent want $57 million a year, it should not be close now. Do not cave. He's got a year left in his contract. And there are people like a Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen, I will pay early.

Max Crosby. Oh, you can identify certain players after a year and a camp. Oh, yeah, he's beating all of our tackles. Yeah, he's got 11 sacks. let's sign them early and get a better deal. That's not Brock Purdy. But let's be brutally honest about here. The Niners' biggest rival is in their division, the Rams.

And it felt like three or four years ago, the Niners had the edge. The Rams have passed them and blown by them. McVeigh, eight years missed the playoff once, and he's got a trophy. Shanahan eight years missed the playoffs four times. Last year was bad. No trophy. And by the way, the rosters right now, the Rams have far more good, young, inexpensive players. And that's why you can keep Matt Stafford.

So I'm looking, one of the primary reasons I think the Rams have blown by him, the Niners, pay Christian McCaffrey, pay Trent Williams, I get George Kiddell. You've got to start making decisions here on safeties and linebackers and right tackles. And you can't pay every receiver. You can't pay Debo and Iyuk, right? And so the Rams have a much better defense and they're paying nobody on that side. They have the better quarterback. I think they have the better coach, arguably. They have the better offensive line.

You have to use discretion on this stuff. And I think this is a classic example is that, you know, the Rams are a little like. McVeigh is a little like the godfather. It's not personal. It's business. And they've told Vaughn Miller that. And they've told Jalen Ramsey that.

And they told Jared Goff that. And they've told multiple people that. They told Matt Stafford that. we really like you it's not personal but this is the number i'm not letting brock purdy push me around and um i say this all the time you know like your sports love your family don't run onto the court like haliburton's dad you know should do her hire an agent right like like love your family, like your sports, and this is the way when I look at the Rams and McVeigh and Les Sneed, they like their players. But they move off Todd Gurley and Cooper Cup and Jalen Ramsey

very quickly. The Niners fall in love with players. Yeah, maybe Trent Williams in his prime. Just send me the check. I'll sign it. But I, you go look at the Dallas Cowboys. They're the example here. Dallas Cowboys pay a good quarterback, A-plus money, and look at that roster right now. Once you do that, you cannot whiff on draft picks. And it looks like last year, Cowboys may have whiffed on a first-round pick. And this year, people are saying they overdrafted another offensive lineman. You start paying your big stars. The Niners have missed on some draft picks, and the Rams have missed on like one interior linemen a couple years ago. So the Rams are drafting.

They're hitting on more draft picks. They're using more discretion, and they're not top-heavy. And so when I hear this story on Brock Pretty, people think I don't like Brock Pretty. No, I don't like paying Brock Pretty $57 million. I love Brock Pretty at 31. I like him at 41. I'm not caving at 53. So, okay.

the Bill Belichick, Jordan Hudson story, has taken an interesting turn. So I had two strong opinions on this story. I now have three. My first opinion was bit cringy. He's 70 plus. She's 24. Then I watched the CBS interview, which she stepped in front of, and like a professional, said, you're not talking about our private relationship.

My second opinion was it's still age-wise a little creepy, but in college football, old Bill needs this. He just happens to be dating it too, but he needs this. Then another story came out, and skeletons are starting to be unearthed, and reporters are starting to report. There was a story in the New York Post yesterday that Jordan Hudson has amassed $8 million in real estate, multiple homes, starting at the time she started dating Bill. Who am I to pry? Another part of this story is looking back at her family who had a fishing business that went bankrupt,

her mother moved to Cape Cod, and now, I'll only say this once, manages a sex toy shop and museum. Didn't know they existed. The museum part doesn't sound like the Smithsonian, but who am I to be snarky? The family's a little different. It does appear now.

I'll have a third opinion, which is they are both benefiting in multiple ways from each other. Whatevs? It's gone from cringy to crucial to crypto. I don't know what the hell I'm going to get tomorrow. That's why I don't invest in it. and here's the thing. She is providing a service. Take your mind out of the gutter.

She is providing a service as his social media director, and she'd like to be compensated for it. That's, I think, where we are. But let's go back to the beginning and my skepticism when this happened. What was my first opinion, like the day it happened? Bill doesn't even watch much college football. I can tell from his drafts.

He's terrible. Bill's an NFL guy. He's not spending Saturdays on the couch. Like his contacts, like he'd call Urban Meyer or Nick Saban, what do you got for me? Herm Edwards. But I never thought of him as a college football guy. College football coaches, Nick Saban may seem grumpy.

Nick Saban's funny. Nick Saban's social. Nick Saban's personal. I've been around Nick once or twice. He lights up a room. Nick is funny. He's a good storyteller. He can laugh at himself.

That's not Bill. Bill's a pro football coach. And that's not a bad thing. But Bill never had this. Like Urban Meyer, to me, it's always been a college football coach. Urban Meyer told me years ago. I love Irvin.

He's a friend. He told me years ago, I don't watch pro football on Sunday. I watch Ohio State game tape. Like Urban took the job, made his money. He was always a college football coach. The NFL thing didn't fit. Bill was always an NFL coach.

Then he brings Mike Lombardi, who I know he brought him over. Lombardi's an NFL guy. And I said this when it happened. I said, you think Bill Belichick had no patient for Robert Kraft? He had no patience for NFL owners. You think he's going to sit around and have an SID run the show or an athletic director or some goofy donor?

This was always an uneven relationship. The minute UNC gave him $10 million a year to a guy who'd never coached college football, he has a dad coached it Navy, but he never showed any great inclination for it. In fact, the only reason this thing makes sense is because of NIL, where Bill can now buy players and doesn't have to hop in a jet every 15 minutes and recruit guys. So I do think it potentially could work through NIL. But this was an uneven relationship.

Carolina was desperate. And Bill's like, all right, I want $10 million. And oh, by the way, if I want to leave in a year, I can. No other college contract is paying a guy 10 large a year plus, and he can just leave whatever he wants to. it was always an uneven relationship so bill's going to do what he wants and again I do think Jordan Hudson I mean these stories

I don't know what to make him I just they're both they're both benefiting and you know my wife does you know she's like you know I get a lot of this is just inappropriate yeah I get that crowd like like but this you know people get into relationships whatever I'm not here to judge

I do think she is providing something that he would not tolerate having some SID, chase him around the field, telling him he's got to talk to this radio station and that, it's not going to work with Bill. That's just not his personality. And that was always my question. I'm like, Mike Lombardi and Belichick, these are NFL dudes. Remember when Charlie Weiss came to Notre Dame and everybody was like, he's an NFL guy, he's a little gruff.

And my take was, Charlie tried. Charlie would go on shows Charlie played the game. If Charlie Weiss was in the NIL era, maybe it works better. He could just buy players. I think this model now can work for NFL guys. But this stuff that's coming out now, it's, okay, I'll say it one more time. I don't know what a sex shop slash museum is.

It doesn't sound like the Guggenheim. I don't know what it is. And here's the air thing. I don't want to know what it is. If I go to that town, I'm not stopping for red lights. I'm just driving straight through that town on Cape Cod. This thing's getting weird. It is Bitcoin.

Nobody knows what's happening tomorrow. Don't listen to anybody. There could be six other stories cooking on this. Congrats to the journalist. Can you imagine the New York Times, New York Post journalist? Guys, come here. You won't believe what I found. Hour to next.

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