The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Lamar Jackson was special last night

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

Colin gives Lamar Jackson credit for the way he's handled super stardom in today's social media culture after another dominating win over an NFC opponent He still can't believe the Cowboys didn't thin...k they needed RB Derrick HenrySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:18 Mark Sanchez, Nick Wright. Rachel Nicholl stops by opening of the NBA season. J-MAC one hour from now. The Herd hierarchy will try to top next week. Well, you know I love. Lamar Jackson. There are a million reasons I love it. And I actually think he's the best football player on the planet.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I don't think he's the best quarterback yet. But I do think he's like half running back, half quarterback. I think he just adds elements we've never seen before. He had eight different targets last night. If his tight end could catch, he would have nine different targets. He was decent last night. He was decent. He was all right.
Starting point is 00:03:56 27-year-old Lamar Jackson. we live in a world where young people, maybe I did this when I was young, it's the constant need for affirmation. They go to TikTok. I can mimic a stand-up comedian. I can dance to somebody else's song. I can sing somebody else's song.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Look at me. Or every replaceable number four receiver on every team gets a first down, and they have to stand up and point. And then there's Lamar Jackson, probably the world's best football town. Five touchdown passes, no picks. On Monday night football, he has 20 touchdown passes, no interceptions. Outrunning the fastest linebacker you have, and often the fastest safety in corner.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Another touchdown, another Ravens win. And then he goes back to the sideline, takes his helmet off, puts his hand in his gear, and he's smiling, he's always around somebody on the team, and he's laughing, he's asking questions, humble, not seeking affirmation, not seeking validation. That's the thing. When you're really successful, it's really, really hard and takes you ever to be successful, and he's been doubted and criticized, and he's lost big games. He's just the nicest kid in the world.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I don't know how you don't like him. The truly great don't need to constantly, incessantly validate their performance. I mean, Mahomes this weekend against the Niners, runs over a player in the end zone for a touchdown. After the game, he jokes about his dad bod. He said, yeah, I just got the best that time. My dad bought. I love that. shoot that into my veins.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Lamar Jackson, one of the great Monday night football performances of all time. A dominant play. I mean, it's just insane to me. Five touchdowns, no picks. You get all the upside. You get none of the downside. You just smile on the sidelines, humble kid. You know, the NBA season starts tonight, and you'll see these guys with the too small gesture.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And it's like, bro, you're an off guard. You sometimes come off the bench. there'll be 240 points scored in tonight's game. LeBron's been in 10 finals. Save the gesture. It's just another basket. It just doesn't matter. The guy's doing the too small, so often come up too small in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:06:12 You ever notice that? Too small guy. Westbrook does that a lot. Too small guy. And that's why Lamar Jackson is such a perfect player. And that's why he should be the soul of a franchise. Same with Mahomes. He cares about the right.
Starting point is 00:06:27 stuff, the next win, the next big play, the next divisional rival. It is all windshield. It's no rearview mirror, never pontificating about a moment, romanticizing the past. It's all about scoring and not celebrating. I mean, this kid is, he's all about tomorrow and the next play and winning and competing. None of the nonsense you see. And I think we're very lucky in pro sports because most of the great players are about that.
Starting point is 00:07:00 But Mahomes and Lamar Jackson really stick out about that. These guys are the world's best at what they do. And they're incredibly grateful and incredibly humble. The only time I ever see Lamar Jackson really upset, really, really emotional. You ever notice this? When he makes the highly infrequent mistake, when he throws the rare interception or he can't pick up a first down, that's when he shows emotion. That's when you see it.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Not when he picks up a first down. I mean, he's done that before, like everybody. But he's just such a humble, great kid. 23 and 1 against the NFC. They can't beat him. They literally cannot beat him. He owns an entire conference in professional football. 20 touchdowns, no picks.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Grateful, next win. John Harbaugh said after, and think about how many great players the Ravens have had. he's not sure he's ever had a kid like this. I'm proud of him. I'm happy for him. He's a great leader, and he's a great player. Great player. He's the ultimate competitor.
Starting point is 00:08:06 There's no question about it. He's, I don't know if I've seen a better competitor than Lamar Jackson. And I've seen some competitors, you know. A lot of some great competitors. But he is, he is in that level with the greatest competitors that I've ever seen. Maybe, maybe the greatest. We'll see. Just remarkable.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And once again, here's Lamar Jackson after always about the right thing I'm chasing something right now so each and every game is going to be the same thing for me like we're going to be the same person every game I'm trying to win
Starting point is 00:08:40 I'm focused on right now and us just just being a problem too don't really matter we just trying to be one to know each and every week we're out there on the field impossible not to like the soul of the franchise the NFL is really lucky I mean really
Starting point is 00:08:55 lucky. They're two biggest stars. Lamar and Patrick Mahomes. Arguably, they're two biggest stars have these qualities. I mean, they really are fortunate. All right, let's talk about the other game. I mean, I've got four more minutes to fill here. Arizona 17, Chargers 15. Here's my big takeaway. I feel bad for Justin Herbert and Kyler Murray, even though Kyler won. Justin Herbert. No run game. Shaky O'line. Got Jalen Rager fumbling in the end zone.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Trolls for 349 yards. I mean, Quentin Johnson, boy, he was missed, wasn't he? We're not even sure he's not a bust. He wasn't there. He was missed. His number one target was Will Disley. No run game. 349 yards.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And Kyler Murray, by the way. Thank God they have one stud. James Connor, the running back, just fantastic. But Marvin Harrison seemed disengaged, the rookie again. What's going on with him? Dropping passes, not engaged? That's been hugely disappointing. But between Justin Herbert and Kiner Murray, it is another referendum.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Don't chase money in any profession. Chase great ownership, trace, chase great management. They're so little of it. How many awful organizations are there? The Chargers are better now. They got Harbaugh. But, I mean, Kyler Murray, he makes Arizona interesting, and that's all you can ask for if Michael Bidwell owns your team. I mean, he makes them interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:33 I mean, now, Herbert finally has the right head coach, and they have two very good tackles, cross your fingers on their health. But, I mean, there's a way to play them. Just stack the box. Don't let them run. They have nobody on the outside. Quentin Johnston looks like a semi-buss. They have nobody on the outside that can beat you. I mean, there's absolutely a way to defend the chargers.
Starting point is 00:10:51 and Justin Herbert's throwing for 349 yards to a tight end and that's, and it's amazing that he threw for three and a half football fields. And here you have, I mean, it's, thank God James Connor has delivered for Arizona. The owner doesn't. The front office is hit and miss. Coaches, they're on another one. I mean, I'm watching these guys and I'm like, I feel bad for these two quarterbacks. And you can say what you want about Kyler Murray in the video game.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Here's all I know. He's a great player. but Lamar got Steve Boshaddy and John Harbaugh and the Ravens culture. Now, Lamar's better than Kyler and would succeed at some level anywhere. But Mahomes got the Hunt family and Andy Reed and Brett Veach and now Steve Spagnola. I'm not saying if you put Herbert and Kyler in Kansas City in Baltimore, they would be as good. But it'd be closer. Justin Herbert is a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:48 a lot more talented than Philip Rivers. But when you watch his career, it's starting to look like the same trajectory. I felt for those guys. I'm like those two quarterbacks, one is the big strapping kid with a huge arm, the other, the smaller guy running around that 44-yard touchdown. Herbert is doing everything he can to pull this franchise up a hill and get over. it and here he is after the loss about the struggling offense. I thought we did a lot of good things, but we got to score points in the red zone.
Starting point is 00:12:26 That's the biggest takeaway from today, tonight's game. You know, we got an amazing kicker, but we got to do a better job for our defense for our special teams. We got to score points in the red zone. By the way, they do have an amazing kicker. They just don't have amazing wide receivers and amazing speed and amazing tight ends, an amazingly dependable interior offensive linemen. they've got a great kicker.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And thankfully, they've got Justin Herbert, and thankfully Arizona has Kyler Murray push back all you want. They both make their franchise immeasurably interesting, and sometimes that's all you're going to get. And that's sometimes, sadly, all you can hope for. Derek Henry did his thing last night. He was available for the league. Isn't that amazing?
Starting point is 00:13:14 He was available for the league? I mean, you could have gotten him for a group of. or a coupon. I mean, the guy was just there for nothing, and Baltimore snagged him. Herd hierarchy, 50 minutes from now, plus Nick Wright. I didn't have either side last night. I stayed away from these two games. Did you, by the way? I'm the idiot who went in front of Mahomes on Sunday, you know, and then I got in front of this Ravens train, and I just was obliterated. I'll just say about Herbert.
Starting point is 00:13:43 How many tight ends do they have on the roster, Colin? He was throwing like six different tight ends, it felt like. Go routes up the sideline to tight ends? I mean, charges are in a bad place, receiver-wise. However, if you look at the schedule, they're still in position. They're going to be feisty. I told you this. If you look at the AFC division leaders, those are excellent teams,
Starting point is 00:14:04 nine games, nine wins can get you into the wild card in the AFC. The NFC, the division winners maybe not as good, but the wild card teams could be Minnesota or Green Bay, Washington or Philadelphia. You could have incredibly, your wild card teams in the NFC are stacked, but in the AFC, I still think I looked at their schedule this morning.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I think the Chargers make the playoffs. They're in play. The middle class of the AFC, all the teams we thought were maybe going to be feisty. Colts, they're terrible. And the AFC's got really good quarterbacks at the top, but in the middle of the AFC, the quarterback
Starting point is 00:14:41 play. We thought Aaron Rogers would be good. He has not been good. By Two is hurt. Anthony Richardson didn't consistent and hurt. Trevor Lawrence seems to be regressing. So the top of the AFC, quarterbacks, coaches, teams. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Really soft, middle and bottom. Where the NFC now over the last two years is deeper. Yeah. The bottom's very small, but the middle of the NFC, I mean, if Chicago goes eight and nine or nine and eight, that's the middle. Well, by the way, sounds like they're not going to face Jayden Daniels this week, which is a big win.
Starting point is 00:15:13 But you're also seeing some big spreads this week. There could be three double-digit spreads. Remember the first six weeks there were none. They're starting to separate. It's like a race, you know, a marathon and you've got the superstars running out late. Chicago is one of my favorite plays this week. I don't hate that one. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app.
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Starting point is 00:19:45 and how the really smart people in the NFL are constantly being part of trends and then going into the trends. Like in the NBA, teams got smaller to defend the three. You needed a twitchy guys that could get outside and defend the three. And the smart teams like Denver said, no, let's just get bigger. Let's get Gordon. Let's get bigger. And by the way, Minnesota's had success. let's just get bigger. Dallas last year at the trading line, let's get bigger. Well, the big guys now are
Starting point is 00:20:12 dominating the paint, winning the awards, dominating scoring. So they go the opposite way. So as this league has gotten faster, the NFL's gotten faster, right? It's getting more perimeter. Well, the smart teams are like, no, let's double down on running because now linebackers are smaller, safeties are smaller. Here's some of the top rushing teams in the NFL right now. See if you see a thread. Ravens, Lions, commanders, Packers, Chiefs. The running game is having a renaissance, just like the NBA. Big men now are taking over the league. So what's interesting about Derek Henry and the Ravens, he is on pace to break.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Eric Dickerson's single season rushing yardage record. He was great last night. Is that we always think that quarterbacks are the big separator in this league. But, you know, it's ownership in front offices. Baltimore has an A-plus-plus-plus ownership situation, and Dallas is C-2-C-minus. and Derek Henry, both teams needed him and both teams could have had him. What was the smart organization
Starting point is 00:21:13 and went and got him, Baltimore? It's like when Tom Brady was available on the market, there was only a couple of teams after him. Tampa was, Chargers were. Shouldn't every team not named the Kansas City Chiefs with Mahomes? Shouldn't almost every team in the league been after Tom Brady?
Starting point is 00:21:29 He went to Tampa won a Super Bowl. Even when he retired, he was better than all about seven guys in the league, maybe five. But this out, you know, it just, when you look at the league, Derek Henry had a very choppy start to his career. He was on the bench. He only started four games in two years. So he kind of looked like he just wasn't anything.
Starting point is 00:21:48 It was just like he's just a guy. Since then, he's become the best closer in the NFL, not at quarterback. And because of his size, and again, because the NFL's gotten smaller a little bit in the secondary with safeties and linebackers, he's like one of these veteran major league baseball pitchers that, uh, you know, they get stronger as the game goes on, like a Justin Verlander or an Adam Wainwright in their prime, they get stronger as the game goes on. Well, Derek Henry seems to get stronger and faster. And by the time you're in the fourth quarter, those linebackers and corners and safeties, I'm not sure they want to lean into tackling Derek Henry. But,
Starting point is 00:22:22 I mean, the kid's just incredible. And he was on the market. He was on the market. Eight million bucks. Dallas needed him. Passed. Baltimore needed him. The better ownership, the smarter front office, went, corralled him, paid him, and look at what it's doing. I mean, Lamar plus Derek Henry on third and one, they're getting a first down. They don't need the tush push. I mean, they got this two-headed cyclone of talent. They don't need the tush push. You're just not stopping them. So a very well-run organization, by the way, Jerry Jones was asked this morning on Dallas radio about why his team, and we kept pushing for it at the trade deadline last year, we were on this thing in the off season.
Starting point is 00:23:04 The trade deadline. We kept saying, go get Derek Henry. That needs help. Here was Jerry this morning. Derek Henry is having a career year. I don't know if he'd be having that career year in our situation. He's a real good compliment to the type of offense. They run.
Starting point is 00:23:20 We don't run that type of offense at all. Derek Henry didn't fit because, principally, of managing the cap. Just what Mike McCarthy wants to hear. You know, he doesn't fit our offense. If Derek Henry doesn't fit your offense, you've got a coaching problem. I mean, seriously, what offense the Chargers could use him? The Rams could use him. Everybody in the league.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Andy Reed could take him this morning. What do you mean our offense? We don't know if he would, he may not be as good with your offense, but Derek Henry, the Cowboys have been running back light for about three years. J. Mack with the news. Turn on the news. This is the Hurdline News. It's World Series Week, Colin.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Remember Friday, Game 1 Dodgers hosting the Yankees. I'm sure you'll be there, front row. Good seats, obviously. It's a matchup between the two best records in baseball. Lots of star power. Five former MVPs are playing in this game. Dave Roberts believes the series will be epic, adding what baseball fan, what sports fan,
Starting point is 00:24:33 wouldn't want to lock into this series. series. Colin, I know you're fired up. Do you have a lien yet? We talked about it a little yesterday. Yeah, probably Dodgers. Although, again, if I get two great performances from Garrett Cole, I think he goes game one for the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:24:48 That's two Ws. So the best pitcher in this series is Garrett Cole. And so you get two Ws from him. It's an advantage. But I do feel like if you go look at the lineups, there are fewer holes with the Dodgers. You know, they think they have them. and when Kikei Hernandez, Tommy Edmonds, when you're getting that kind of production,
Starting point is 00:25:07 I mean, we overlook Max Muncie because of Betts and Johei Otani and Freddie Freeman. I mean, you go one through seven through that lineup, and there's just, with the Dodgers, there's no easy outs. Go ask the Mets. You got to drop in six, seven runs. There's no easy outs. Whereas, you know, if Aaron Judge is obviously frightening to face,
Starting point is 00:25:26 I just think the Dodgers, but again, good pitching beats good hitting. So if Garrett Cole's money in two starts and goes, and get you leads. Although it seemed like earlier in the year there were real concerns about the Yankees bullpen. I don't know if those concerns are still prevailing. But earlier in the year,
Starting point is 00:25:44 that was the big concern about the Yankees is the back end of their staff and the bullpen. If that's an issue, you can't beat the Dodgers because they score and they score a lot middle and late innings. There's this weird thing happening online where a lot of fans are like, oh, these are just the big spending teams. They were two and three in payroll.
Starting point is 00:26:01 But like, they're also, the popular teams, right? And by popular, I mean like jersey sales. Six of the top 20 jersey sellers are playing in the series. Like these are the best players in the league. This is great for the sport. All these owners are billionaires. The A's owner, the Fisher family, billionaires. You just don't want to spend. Yeah. So you don't spend. So you can get the person that owns the Cincinnati Reds, that's a billionaire. Okay, maybe the Pittsburgh Pirates owner is not, I'm not sure. they don't spend any money. But whenever I hear about, well, the Dodgers,
Starting point is 00:26:34 the Dodgers have made a decision since they got the Walters group in nine years ago is that they know in a very crowded, distracted market, they're going to spend money. The Lakers, I mean, you just got teams, Vegas is close, the beach, shopping, mountains. They've gone all in on it. And so, I mean, the Dodgers, you know, I'm sure they're profitable. But they are not buying another Gulfstream, the ownership group. They are spending the money they make with the Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Do you remember the last off season, the whole Otani? Who's going to get him? Where's he going to? He went from never playing in the postseason with the Angels to now World Series. I mean, he's been one of the best players in baseball all season. People bag on players for leaving. No. You and I can do what we do for a longer period of time.
Starting point is 00:27:27 A baseball player gets about seven to eight years of peak. You know, like 23 to 31, those are the peak years. You go get yours. Not all ownership groups are even. Not all front offices are equal. You got a choice between Detroit over the last 10 years and the Dodgers. Go to the Dodgers. Deal with a high California taxes.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Go play for a winner. I do wonder if we'll see more owners say, you know, look at the Otani impact on the Dodgers. I know he's won in a million But I think he's one of one There are still like listen Soto the Yankees This guy's going to command Major major bucks
Starting point is 00:28:05 I mean he's one of the best players in baseball Yeah I'm not telling Everybody should be all in If you were an owner and you want to compete Go get out Go get Soto Friday 7 p.m. On Fox
Starting point is 00:28:17 7 p.m. Eastern that is Yankees Dodgers Next up Gerard Mayo Listen I've been banging this drum for a while Colin I think we're early on this This dude is in trouble in New England. After the loss to the Jags, Mayo called his squad a soft football team and later clarified he thought that the team has played soft this season but can turn it
Starting point is 00:28:36 around. You see that? He's already changing his tune. Well, guess what? Bill Belichick won on the Let's Go podcast and addressed Mayo's comments directly. Coach, have you ever had a soft team? You know, look, I think when you criticize your team publicly like that, it doesn't always go over well. Not every coach has their own own style and, you know, maybe sometimes that can be effective and all. But ultimately, I always felt like when the team played bad, that was my responsibility. Yep. These are all Belichick's guys, basically all. I know Judeo's traded. But look at the defense. It's fallen off a cliff. Schematically they miss Belichick. Shocker. They missed one of the greatest coaches in sports history. And nobody
Starting point is 00:29:21 wanted him. When he went to the marketplace, nobody wanted him. Bill is more than willing. And I, I appreciate this. A lot of ex-coaches and ex-players. Peyton Manning has said he doesn't want to necessarily do the game analyzations stuff. You don't want to criticize players. I respect that, even though he's been critical before. But a lot of these coaches and players, they got all their golfing buddies.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Bill Belichick has no problem calling out coaches and players. And I think it's been very good. I don't think Bill's a dynamic television presence. But his authenticity and honesty on this stuff, Bill has been willing to just say, this guy stinks and this guy's good. And I appreciate that from Belichick. And I've seen a lot of really smart coaches go on the air and they are protecting their guys.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Belichick won't. Gerard Mayo was one of his favorite players. He was a Gerard Mayo guy. You almost wonder if Belichick got a whiff last season that Kraft was working behind the scenes with Mayo to kind of deliver him as the next head coach. And Belichick's a little ticked off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:21 I mean, I'll be honest. Like, Belichick is so good at some of this media stuff. Like you said, not pulling punches. I wonder if he has an appetite to go back to coaching, which is a lot of work. Yes, yeah. You sure? Yeah, yeah. I spent a year with Sean Payton.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Guys like Belichick and Sean. That Belichick's got the young girlfriend. He's doing all these podcasts. He's living a dream. Yeah, that seems like a forever relationship. I don't know. Come on. He's going to have options.
Starting point is 00:30:47 By the way, Jets are seven-point favorites at Mayo and the Patriots. No chance. I'm staying away from that game. Let's avoid the Jets. I'm staying away from the Jets. a topic. Let's avoid it as a topic. Let's avoid watching it. Let's not bet on these bums. Apparently, Hassan Reddick's going to play, but whatever. Anyways, final story, Colin, is the Minnesota Vikings. They were a penalty away from a potential game-winning field goal that would
Starting point is 00:31:07 have kept their undefeated season going. However, any legal formation penalty, push them out a field goal range, and they lost their first game of the season to the Lions. It was a great game. Kevin O'Connell spoke about how the small margin of error is when you're one of the league's top teams. You're not going to, you know, really good teams. You're not going to just steamroll through the game and have perfect plays on every play, but you better make sure it's them that's causing, you know, truly some of those things to happen instead of some of the self-inflicted things. It might not seem like a big deal at the time or when it is in the game, but that's what kind of football games, I believe, are out in front of this team. Yeah, it was a great game between
Starting point is 00:31:47 two teams that could play for the NFC championship. I thought it was great football. I'm the kind of nerd who watches football and takes notes. I have in my notes that Sam Darnel took his first snap in the second half trailing against the Lions this season. Like, I wouldn't overreact to the loss. There was some good takeaways. Detroit's also, Detroit's the new San Francisco. It sort of feels that way. I mean, just like eight great players, the difference is theirs are younger and San Francisco's are getting older and creakier.
Starting point is 00:32:18 So that takes dovetails into where I'm going with this. Rams Thursday night short week. That's a fascinating game because home teams with good coaches and quarterbacks have an advantage at home. But the fact they lost, I like Minnesota. Okay. Now, I'm pretty sure we were the first of any sports show to mention this. But teams that play the Lions the next week have lost every game this season.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Wow. They beat you up physically in the trenches. So now not only do you play the Lions, but you have a short week travel across the country. to face the Rams. Wow. Colin, we saw Jared Gough. Remember Brian Flores' blitz rattled every quarterback this season.
Starting point is 00:32:58 You know who wasn't rattled? Gough. Jared Gough. He was amazing. Well, Matt Stafford's pretty freaking incredible against the Blitz. I wonder if the Rams are the side view. This is an interesting game. Cooper Cup is available.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Your guy. Lines at three and a half. Three and a half, I'm taking the Rams. Yeah, no, that's a really good. Now, Thursday night favorites have been very good this season. Star quarterbacks at home, standalone games this year, been very good.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And this is, isn't this, O'Connell's a McVeat disciple, I believe. Yep. Mentor. Mentor versus, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a great game. This is a good Thursday night game. How about this?
Starting point is 00:33:32 Thursday night we get this good game. Friday night World Series. Oh, come on. Saturday, I'm sure there's a couple million college good football games. USC Rutgers. I got the big 10 bets just now from the producer. We got, take Ohio State in the over, baby.
Starting point is 00:33:46 It's all I'm saying. Against Nebraska. Nebraska. Bad call by me on Nebraska last week. Just a bit outside. J-Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
Starting point is 00:33:56 The Heard Lie News. I want to read you. I have four different stories on the San Francisco 49ers, so I'm just going to read you the headlines. NFL exec. 49ers aren't as deep as usual. Kyle Shanahan appeared to chew out Brock Purdy after the loss. Brandon Iyuk tears ACL, MCL. Debo Samuel in hospital.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Christian McCaffrey may return November 10th. The San Francisco 49ers are fraying. All right, Brock Purdy. You want that contract? This is the moment. You want $58 million a year? Steady the ship. Because you entered San Francisco with everything right and tight.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And now everything is fraying and loose. yes, you're under a microscope. You have to prove it's you and not the organization. You have been carried so far. In the last 12 games when he's faced more injuries, less Christian McCaffrey to handoff to. You want to know what he is in those 12 games? Six and six, with a passer rating under 88.
Starting point is 00:35:11 That's it. As many turnovers, 14 as touchdowns. That's who he is. So the first three seasons, it was the honeymoon phase. You've gone from that yacht to the ship is leaking. And that's the difference. Can you steady the ship? And this is what I always said.
Starting point is 00:35:34 He's a good quarterback. I see no extraordinary. I watched Extraordinary last night. I watched Extraordinary Sunday. I see no extraordinary. He's a good quarterback. Now here's the good news. the roster is still strong
Starting point is 00:35:49 Christian McCaffrey coming back I like your head coach a lot you still got a boast in the pass rush Fred Roner is an amazing linebacker there's a lot of good here there's a lot of wins on the schedule but that honeymoon stuff it is over
Starting point is 00:36:04 it is over six and six last 12 games as many turnovers as touchdowns there is great news though Dallas is up next I mean, that is extraordinary news. We need a layup.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Here comes the Cowboys. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
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Starting point is 00:37:05 You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw,
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Starting point is 00:38:15 I'm Sam Jay and I'm Alex English Each episode we pick it here unpack what went down and try to make sense of how we survived it Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill Waxing All About Crack in the 80s To be clear, 84 is big to me not just because of crack I'm down to talk about crack on day But just so y'all know
Starting point is 00:38:35 I mean at this point Mark this is the second episode Where we've discussed crack So I'm starting to see that there's a through line We also have AIDS on the table right now So Thank you for finishing that. sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the
Starting point is 00:38:56 IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tantons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, care games. And in recognition of mental health awareness month, I'm bringing over a decade of
Starting point is 00:39:41 my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many. incredible guests. I'm talking. Trip Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing and we're still chasing it and we don't know when we've done enough. Because people scoreboard watch. Life becomes about wins and losses. Steve Burns, Dustin Ross, because you find it important to be a good person while you hear on earth or are you a good person because you're afraid? Because that's two different intentions, bro. Absolutely. And that's two different levels of trust.
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Starting point is 00:40:32 First time since 1981, the Los Angeles Dodgers and the New York Yankees. It's going to be great. First time since 1956 of the home run champions facing off in the world series. I want the world to see Shohei Otani on the biggest stage, the 12th Dodger Yankee World Series. This is the absolute ultimate. I dream world series. What I played was Yankee Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Game one Friday night on Fox, one of the classic rivalries in the sport were set for a dream world series. Friday night on Fox, the stage is set for an iconic showdown. Aaron Judge leads the Yankees against Shohei Otani and the Dodgers in a historic World Series clash. Game one begins at 7 p.m. Eastern on football. So the ratings have been outstanding. People say, hey, you guys don't talk enough baseball. Create great, create urgency. We're in.
Starting point is 00:41:28 The National League playoffs were unbelievable, and we talked about it every day. We had guests every other day. Yankees Dodgers is going to be won for the ages. I'll take the Dodgers. I think the order, Garrett Cole could be the difference, though, but I think the batting order, you know, 1 through 6 or 7. I just don't think there's any holes in it,
Starting point is 00:41:44 and they wear you down over the course of the series. The pressure may come down to the Yankees bullpen. Can they get outs in the 6th, 7, 8th, and 9th inning? So what a circus in Dallas. So Troy Aikman started this, the legendary former Cowboy quarterback, now broadcaster, right? And he goes on the air calling out something that should fall on the coach. Coaches don't like to hear this word, soft or lazy. Here's Troy on the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I think the routes are terrible. I think they run terrible routes. And I've thought that beyond this year. and I think CED's got to improve in his route running. I see guys lazy coming off the line of scrimmage. Sometimes they run, usually if they do, it's because they're anticipating they're going to get the football in that play, but if they're not, they don't.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Now, Mike McCarthy's the head coach. Here's his reaction to Troy Aikman's lazy routes comment. They don't carry any weight with me because, you know, I watch all the tape. I get to go to the meetings. I'm at practice. I'm part of the games. So I have a clear understanding of what and where.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And in Troy, you know, statement in particular, I mean, I don't agree with the word selection. Okay. So Mike says, you know, Troy's words don't carry any weight with me. But here's the thing. The owner said, yeah, they, they carry weight with me. Here's Jera. Troy's credible, boy, and should be. And not only that, you can imagine he's not just interested in taking a whack at the cowboys.
Starting point is 00:43:21 He's very professional. I think he's very fair. I mean, the first thing Jerry Jones says is, boy, that's a credible source. Ripping my head coach. That guy never takes shots. So it's time for our annual head coach on the hot seat. So there's three levels to this. The first level is it's a little toasty.
Starting point is 00:43:55 It's a little warm. The AC went out. On this, I would keep all of these guys. I think the first three, this is warm. The coaching hot seat is warm. Brian Daibald. His problem is every time they're, in prime time, they're unwatchable. They have
Starting point is 00:44:11 one touchdown in four home games this season. It's not his fault. He's stuck with Daniel Jones. I would keep him. I think he's an excellent coach. The second is Cleveland's Kevin Stefansky. I think he's great. Two-time coach of the year, but this is a chaotic, roller
Starting point is 00:44:27 coaster, turbulent franchise. He'd be out of work for about five minutes. The third is Zach Taylor. I mean, I'll be honest, Bengals had a losing record in five straight years before they hired him. Now, some of this is just Joe Burrow. But again, this is a cheap organization.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Their defense is bad this year. Why? Because they don't want to spend on safeties. They don't want to spend here or there. They're not even paying Jamar Chase yet. They're already peeling off defensive contracts, and they haven't paid Jamar Chase yet or T. Higgins. So they're cheap.
Starting point is 00:44:59 So it's warm. It's toasty. I think these are all really good coaches. Next up, it's smoking. Yeah. somebody grab a fire extinguisher Dennis Allen no playoff appearances
Starting point is 00:45:13 with the Raiders of the Saints and I'm not I mean just I don't know if he can build the staff you know some of it Drew Brees has gone Sean Payton exit stage right but I just don't see anything that's special here I don't think he puts an imprint on a franchise what is Dennis Allen
Starting point is 00:45:32 next is Doug Peterson oh I listen I was wrong I thought he was a great fit down there 13 games, they're 3 and 10. More troubling, the clear regression of a talented quarterback, Trevor Lawrence. That's on Doug, who's always been like a nice guy who runs a little bit of a loose ship. It looks really loose. And then the third is Nick Seriani, who I'm not sure what he does.
Starting point is 00:45:53 It's strange antics. I'm just not sure what Nick Seriani does. Also, this worries me. He's the only team in the NFL with all their talent on offense. Philadelphia is the only team. team in the NFL without a first quarter point this year. That's brutal, because those are his plays. And then there's a four alarm blaze.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Get out of the house. And that's Mike McCarthy. Yeah, I mean, the fire trucks are parked in the yard. Get your belongings. Get out of here. Four straight home losses. They can't compete with the good teams. They get blown out at home.
Starting point is 00:46:30 You know, some of it is Micah Parsons. DeMarcus Lawrence have been banged up. They've been banged up on the back end. But, you know, again, he's the hot guy. his clock management. The other thing, you know, I've said this before is I obviously couldn't run a major corporation. And the longer, let's say tomorrow, you give me Microsoft. You wouldn't notice in the first day or week that I didn't know what I was doing.
Starting point is 00:46:57 But the longer I was there, maybe six weeks, I'd be making really bad decisions. So you can fool people for a while. You see this all the time in college football. where a legendary coach leaves, they hire his assistant, and for like a year, they're still really good. And then by year two, you see a little regression. Year three, it's a mess. You can fool people for a long time if you take over a program with inertia
Starting point is 00:47:26 and momentum and good players. But, I mean, it doesn't take long. Brady leaves the Patriots. First year, you're like, well, I mean, they're still well, coached. second year, you're like, they're just kind of fraying. Third year, you're like, Belichick needs Brady or he can't win. Like, so you can fool people. So if you go look at Mike McCarthy in both Green Bay and Dallas, here's the troubling thing.
Starting point is 00:47:50 The longer he's at both places, the looser, the puffier, the softer they get. And so when, and this is something Troy Aikman and other broadcasters have, pointed out either publicly and privately, his teams are a little loose on the details. Like when they go for it on that fourth down with 17 seconds left against San Francisco. It's just not something an Andy Reid team would do. And this is often the difference between a solid coach and a great coach is the details. You go to Belichick in his prime. They were great on the details.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Julian Edelman talking about that yesterday. Andy Reid, great on the details. Baltimore with Harbaugh. Michigan with Jim Harbaugh. great coaches have it all buttoned up. That's the mean great coaches can't have bad years. The Rams have had cluster injuries. Christian McCaffrey gone for the Niners.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I mean, it's not easy to win in this league. But in both Green Bay and Dallas, the longer Mike is around, the looser it gets. They need to fasten up the bolts on this thing, the lug nuts. It's just kind of loose. And that's why when Aikman says that, what he's inferring to is there's sloppily coached. They're sloppily coached. Play the Jerry Jones bite again. So Aikman is
Starting point is 00:49:09 they're lazy. McCarthy is, his words don't carry any weight. I mean, listen how Jerry frames this and elevates Akeman over Mike. Troy's credible, boy,
Starting point is 00:49:26 and should be. And not only that, you can imagine he's not just interested in and take it a whack at the Cowboys. He's very, very professional I think he's very fair I mean Jerry took a side there it wasn't Mike McCarthy's he took a side it wasn't subtle it wasn't nuanced boy first thing Jerry says about Aikman's comment boy that was credible he is a very good
Starting point is 00:49:53 broadcaster he is really credible he doesn't take shots I mean that come on that's not even that's not even subtle so I think the the fire trucks have arrived at the McCarthy House. Grab the assets. Get outside. I think he's in big trouble. And this is like the second, third time Jerry's done this over the course of a week of taking somebody else's side
Starting point is 00:50:18 in the criticism of his coach. You would, I mean, listen, even if you doubted your coach, as an owner, you kind of take the side of your coach. Jerry's like not interested in that at all, at all. Heard hierarchy. Let's see if Brooke pretty,
Starting point is 00:50:37 can wedge his Niners into the top 10. Such a standard next. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you
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Starting point is 00:51:12 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Listen to the Clifford show on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days I'd put on 10 pounds, I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Like Mark Lamont Hill on the... 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host, Kear Games.
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