The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - LeBron's game winner

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

Colin reacts to the LeBron's game winning tip in for the Lakers against the Pacers and why LA is all about the postseason at this point Thoughts on the return of the NCAA Tournament and what stars like Cooper Flagg mean to the sportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thanks for making us part of your day. I watched some NBA hoops last night. They always call it in baseball the dog days of summer. And some of these teams that are good, like Cleveland, they're like, let's give that guy the night off. Let's get reduced the minutes. Lakers are not in that situation because they could go up in the seating or down if they don't get their act together. But it was very interesting last night. So LeBron had his worst half of NBA basketball in the first half on the road at Indiana.

He didn't do anything. I watched the first half. I'm like, this is awful. And a lot of people think the NBA should cut its schedule to about 65 games. Last night was Laker game number 72, and they want the playoffs to start. These are the dog days. It's like senioritis in high school. We got accepted to college.

Can we just wrap her up? I don't want to go to the Spanish class anymore. Geometry, I'm done. I don't need the credits. You know what it is. We all did that, right? And so that's where the Lakers are, but they're in a precarious situation. Because they're the four seed.

They could move up to the two. They're not getting past OKC, or they can fall down to a play-in game, and their schedule is brutal. They play the Thunder twice, a young team that's deep and plays hard. They play the rockets twice. A young team that's deep that can beat them twice. They play the Warriors. They go to the Grizzlies. By the way, they play the Mavericks.

Chicago at home, Chicago's had some weird games. They beat the Lakers in L.A. So they've got to be very careful. They cannot mail it in here. And here's the thing to remember about this Laker team, as we move into the dog days, So, you know, Luca and LeBron, these guys can score and do what they want to do. But this team, Luca, has only played 19 games for the Lakers. And he's only played 12 when it's been Luca LeBron and Austin all available.

So now they're finally healthy, and it didn't take until the fourth quarter last night when they really, really played well. But teams like the Cavs, the Celtics and the Nuggets, they have roster rhythm. They can rest guys now. Now, Tatum's really hurt, but Boston can rest guys and still win by 30. Porzingas plays well on the road. They win by 30. It's a whole different ball.

That's not the Lakers. Historically, teams that make a big sweeping trade at the deadline like getting Luca, they don't hold trophies. That's not the way it generally works. And so Lakers, remember, they just lost seven to ten. Why? LeBron was gone, and he came back and he wasn't ready to play. So they need LeBron to be healthy.

They need LeBron to be engaged. and these are the senioritis days of high school in the NBA for legendary players. Even now, Steph's going to take some time off. Steve Kerr's like, he's tired. So you see it in baseball a lot. You're seeing it in the NBA. They came back to win. Here's the game winner by LeBron and the king after.

LeBron's buzzer. Look at this thing. Oh, my goodness. LB.J. With the winner. I really couldn't really have too much emotion because I was trying to see if I got the ball off in time, to be honest. You know, it's always tricky when you kind of touch the ball. You kind of see the red light around the backboard and you don't quite know if you got it on time.

I thought I had it on time, but you never know. After they showed the replay on it, it was definitely gratifying to know, especially where we, you know, the way we've been playing and to come in to know how they've been playing, you know, and to come in here and get a good win in a very, you know, hostile environment. big time for our ball club. Yeah, so the young teams like Indiana and OKC are playing their butt off, the teams that have some AIDS like Boston and the Warriors and the Lakers. And now Cleveland now's got guys who have been around. Denver's got guys that have been around. These are dog days. You're trying to get everybody rest and reduce minutes, but the Lakers got to be careful.

Thunder twice, Rockets twice, Warriors, Mavericks, tricky game in Chicago. So tonight, the tournament resumes. Arizona Duke. I tried to get really smart. I had a great first weekend. I have 15 of the 16 teams left. I got them. It's my best bracket ever. It's probably going to go up and smoke tonight because I got real clever.

And I don't think Duke, they've got all these great freshmen. Freshmen don't win the tournament. So I think Arizona's going to beat him tonight. Do I really think that? Well, I did two weeks ago. I'm not sure if I do now. But here's what's interesting. Since Coach Kay took over Duke and John Shire, they've had 90 guys in the NBA.

I think Cooper Flag is going to be their best NBA player ever. So Grant Hill is the best Duky ever. His first six years, five times all NBA. Seconds Jason Tatum, excellent player. Kyrie Irving, to me, only played eight games at Duke would be third. I think Cooper Flagg, and by the way, the NBA right now, 24 Dukeies, second best of Kentucky. It's a factory. And think of all the guys that have come in since Coach Kay started.

Remember, he came from, like, Army to Duke, had some turbulent early years. They almost got rid of him. He stayed, built an empire. Then John Shire's been a great, great candidate and a choice. And I think, now, Grant Hill is the best dukey ever, and his injuries shortened his career. But he was an unbelievable player. But he entered the league at 22. Cooper Flagg is entering the league at 18.

He was 17 when the season started. So I think he's going to be much better early than Jason Tatum. and I think he'll be better late than Grant Hill. He won't be as good as Grant was first year in the NBA. Grant was an all-star. But I do think Cooper Flagg when you watch him tonight. IQ, shooting, passing. He's an excellent defender.

He's got to become a better ball handler in the pros. No question. But everybody's game needs work. The kid is just fantastic. He is a finisher. He's got more of a chip on his shoulder than Jason Tatum. In fact, Jason Tatum's dad is Rick Buecker told his story here this week. Jason Tatum's dad acknowledges that.

He's got everything. The chip, the EQ, he's tough, a finisher can shoot, scores at all three levels, just got to handle the ball better. But he was 17 not long ago, and he'll enter the NBA at 18. But here's the classic NBA dilemma. So years ago, when Patrick Ewing went to the Knicks and you know how fans are, we weren't even in a conspiracy theory era, but it was like the frozen envelope theory, Because, you know, gosh, what do you know a good player went to a New York team?

It should be noted that the Orlando Magic won the lottery twice. Nobody wants to bring that up or Cleveland's won it. But yes, at one point, the Knicks with Ewing won it. So here's what's funny if you look at the NBA lottery odds. There are three landing spots. Either perfect. Perfect would be maybe Chicago or Philadelphia. or hey San Antonio with Wemby

okay would be Utah great GM great coach a lot of draft picks they got some players they're going to be okay C if they land Cooper flag they're going to be okay C and Utah's a great NBA market and then there's just God awful Washington, Charlotte, Toronto, Sacramento

and so if Cooper flag the odds are right now it's mostly awful team teams he's going to go to. And this has always been the NBA's dilemma. If he ended up going to Chicago, it's rigged. I'll say it again. The magic won the lottery twice. The Knicks won at once. But he is an all-time player and here's his coach as he enters the game tonight against Arizona. Cooper is about to move on with something incredibly special the next step he's going to go after this. But happiness doesn't necessarily equate to, you know, just becoming a pro or just

making money. And although they're making money either way now. But I think it's important for guys to each, each guy is their own individual. So I think depending on the situation, guys should make the decisions for themselves. But Cooper's thing is different. Cooper's thing is that said and that's going to happen and as it should. Yeah, now, so if you're 20 years old or in your early 30s and watching this show, first of all, thank you. Second of all, what's happening with Cooper Flag, leaving a big brand going to the pros and being good immediately, that's why everybody used to love the NBA, because that's the

way it always was 25 years ago. Tim Duncan would go to school, be an All-American, and he would come back two more years. And Ewing would at Georgetown would be dominant as a freshman. He'd come back two or three more years. Chris Paul, Duncan, Grant Hills. They didn't leave after a year. So you would watch them for years and years and years, and you'd build up this fascination and visceral connection with all these players.

Then they'd go to the NBA, and they were very good year one. We are starving for it, and we're getting Cooper Flagg, and it's so exciting because we don't get this anymore. great player at a big brand can walk in and be a 19 point in game guy mj people forget this mj hits the shot at north carolina right oh my god they made the movie air he came back two more seasons after it and didn't win a college title it's as if they evaporated michael jordan dean smith he was so great he had james worthy dean smith's like no let the freshman shoot the game winner.

He came back two more seasons. Everybody did. The Worthies, the Ewings, the MJs, the Duncans. They all came back and back. And I've said, if you want to know about the NBA's popularity, you know, people are going to go, oh, it's the politics. It's the fact that we don't know any of these guys until they're 28 years old. We have no connection. That's why Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese was such a TV ratings home run.

They'd formed a rivalry in college. I'm watching the HBO Simmons series on the Celtics. Magic and Bird out of rivalry in college. And it just pivoted to the NBA. So the fact that what we're getting with Cooper Flag is what we used to get a surplus of. It was a conveyor belt. Great players, mature, ready to crush, maybe make second team all NBA right out of college. So that's why this is so exciting for me.

It's a little old school in the NBA. And if you just, and I said this, one of my only complaints about Adam Silver, put your arms around college basketball. Put your arm. Nobody's watching the G League. If Cooper Flag dropped 38 tonight, I'd actually watch him if he went to Charlotte, you know? Like, that's what the NBA used to be. The whole politics thing, maybe that's 5%.

It's the fact that guys come into the league. Can you name the top five guys drafted last year in the NBA? Nobody can. I'm not sure GMs in the NBA can. that's the problem is that football and now women's basketball is doing this they provide us with stories identifiable stars and rivalries and then you just microwave them at the pro level and they're ready to go i mean reggie bush had a huge following tim tibo had a huge following in college i mean if zion could have controlled his weight if john morat was more mature maybe you could

have had that. It wasn't. They weren't. It looks like Cooper Flagg could be. All right, J. Mack. We've got I got a little tip last night. You know, we worked the phones. I called you last night on something. You weren't available. Oh, shoot. I'm sorry. I remember a seat. Yes. I had something going on. Wait, did you get added to a group text chain accidentally? Where did you get this info from? What's going on? I don't get on group. As Carissa Thompson knows, if you put me on one, I got on an NFL Sunday text chain and I immediately eliminated myself and apparently offended the whole building. You removed yourself? I don't like being on text chains.

Why? You just mute the chain. I don't even know how to do that. All I know is my thoughts cannot be shared with 47 people simultaneously. If you can get me one-on-one, you want me in a phone call. I don't want things coming out of my head should not be shared universally. You've got something interesting. Okay.

What does this theory have to do with NFL, NBA? NFL. Aaron Rogers? It's variant. It's not just about Aaron. It could affect Aaron. Got a little tidbit last night. Don't go anywhere.

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21st pick, first round. So if Aaron signs with Pittsburgh, it's going to become Kirk Cousins. They're taking a quarterback. Because I've been told the Steelers, they're looking around at all these AFC quarterbacks and Milro is the most athletically gifted guy to come out of this draft at that position since Lamar Jackson and they feel as an organization they need

special. They just don't stack up. They need special at quarterback. And I've said he's a better version of Anthony Richardson. Great kid throws a deep ball and now a D.K. Metcalfe, they have a deep threat along with Pickens. But this is potentially a Kirk Cousin situation.

I am told the Steelers really like Milro. Great kid, by the way. And this is Aaron's reality in 2025. He is a stopgap. The other thing is, I was told by an NFL exec is they thought the Steelers did some very poor general managing by paying D.K. Metcalfe, and they've already got a player that's very similar, all that money. And they don't have a quarterback yet. And the problem is they don't have a lot to pay Aaron Rogers. And Aaron's got pride.

He wants to sign a contract that's at least Sam Darnold, $33, $35 million. He doesn't want to sign the Russell Wilson deal with the Giants. That Russell Wilson contract is tied to playing time and performance. It's 10 million. Aaron's not going to play for that. Aaron wants to get mid-30s at least. He's got pride. He's had a better career he believes than Russell Wilson.

So it's been a very choppy decision-making time for the Steelers. But I am told Aaron's basically down to the Steelers who don't have a lot of money, crossing his fingers on the Vikings who aren't currently interested. They may be later in retirement. So this is the market. that Aaron has created. Tom Brady ended it on his terms. Aaron, unless he retires, is not.

It's either going to be a less than ideal offer from the Pittsburgh Steelers. And if the 21st pick, if Milrose not taken, Pittsburgh is leaning now and taking him. It is not a good draft. Most of the teams drafting in the 20s and beyond, I am told would rather trade out of the first round. there's probably not going to be a lot of takers. So Pittsburgh may get trapped a little like they did with Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett was a third round talent, but they didn't have a quarterback. And so they reached on him.

Now, I think Milro is the opposite of Kenny Pickett. You know, Kenny Pickett was not this athlete and was not a good deep ball thrower. Pickett was a local kid. Milro's not. Millro is an insane athlete who throws a beautiful deep ball, big time athlete, wonderful kid, great family, but he's incredibly inconsistent and probably needs to sit for a year to be ready to play at the NFL if it even works. So this is what I'm being told right now.

This is the market errands created for himself. So you can talk about retirement and do darkness retreats, but you're not going to end the career on your terms. You're going to have a very, very small market. I mean, even Indianapolis that's desperate at quarterback, they're not interested in AR. So that's where we are right now. J. Mack with the news. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. I'll get there to start the show. I like it. Tell you what I'm told. Yeah. Let's get started, Colin. Opening day for Major League Baseball. Today, very exciting.

The Dodgers are looking to defend their World Series title. Vegas thinks they will. As Los Angeles opens as the shortest favorite to win the World Series since the 2002 Yankees. We have the odds on the screen. Dodgers plus 275. I'll tell you what. Phillies at those odds, that's the best bet.

Plus 1,200. Phillies are a real team. I actually would consider the Mets, but I couldn't look myself in the mirror as a Yankees fan. I just can't do that. I think the Mets have a bit of a roster and some momentum. Well, they're fun. The Mets are fun. Soto makes them a really good watch.

Interesting that there's a lot of National League teams on this list. Where's the AL talent? Well, by the way, I think the Yankees here at plus 850 are over value. They're not a world serious. I don't know if they're a playoff winning team without Garrett Cole. Yeah, couldn't they make a move at the trade deadline, add some arms? I saw a story about two weeks ago. They got about 30 million to play with, but John Carlos Stanton's hurt.

That's like the payroll of the Marlins. Like, that's not jump change. They can do some damage. I don't think they're going to stand pat, especially it's based on this odds, Colin. All the talents in the NL. No, no. The national, you know, when I was a kid growing up, I always remember in the 70s, the Phillies were great, the Pirates were great, the Dodgers were great, the Reds were great.

It goes back and forth. It does feel like right now, I mean, we don't even have the Padres listed on that, and the Padres are a really good team. So I think the Padres should be one of the five favorites. The problem is they'd have to get through the Dodgers. Arizona is a good team. They've got to get through the Dodgers. So it's just the Nationally's better right now. That's why it was interesting when Soto went to the Mets.

many people said if you're not going to go to the Yankees, stay in the American League because it's just easier to get to the World Series, which is good for your marketing. But if you're a betting, man, you want to take the Yankees because the path for them is much easier. If you go with your Phillies, like, they got to get... Yankees dominate the American League Central. I mean, I couldn't tell you the last time the twins beat them in a big series.

So, I mean, the Yankees have owned, and this is about all they've owned in the last 12 years. They've owned the American League Central. Take your shots now. Take your shots now. Let's move on to... The NFL draft in Ashton Genty. He sat down with Fox Sports.com ahead of the draft and said his goal in the NFL is to be the, quote, best to ever do it.

He's got some confidence. Obviously, he's got a lot of talent. He had his pro day yesterday. Every NFL team was present. Genty had a monster year at Boise. Did you see some of his pro day stuff? Yeah, a little bit. I mean, listen, he's awesome.

But like the best to ever do it. Like, listen, I like that shoot for the stars. But I will say. when you looked, and again, I think pro days are nonsense. But some of the stuff he does, man, does not look normal. It's not normal stuff, even for a really good player. But like, do you take him top 10, Colin, a running back? I think this draft, when the Lions took Jemir Gibbs,

they looked at it and thought, we have a great old line, we have our quarterback, we have Amar on St. Brown. He was like the missing piece. Yeah, and their take was, we need to be. And the other thing, the line is, and said is our O line is so good that even if he's not as good as we think and we think he's great, he will succeed because of our own line. That's why the Eagles said, go get Sequin.

Our O line is so good, it's going to guarantee 30% better than the Giants where Sequin was great with a terrible O-1. They were a playoff team in the last two years. So to me, the Chicago Bears have gone out, Drew Dalman, Joe Tunney, Jonah Jackson. So the Bears and the Vikings both. The Bears went out and upgraded a singular unit more than any unit by any team in the lead. So could you argue that almost ensures that Gentie will succeed at a high level with the bet? Because now they got their tied end, they got two receivers, they have the quarterback and offensive coach.

I can see. Is the defense there? Well, it's very good argument. In a better draft, I can see the Bears going, let's go past rusher. because they have Jalen Johnson and Sweat, the defensive lineman. But in a draft that's average, Ben Johnson going, let's see, what did we do in Detroit that we got criticized for, but actually was a great move?

We went and took a first round running back because we had a very capable O-line. I could see the Bears doing it. So let's say the kid Graham is available at 8 or wherever the Bears are picking on the top 10. I think you could get 80% of Gentie with running backs in the second and third round. I don't know that you can get 80% of Graham. Graham is a superstar waiting to happen.

Mason Graham. He's awesome. Yeah, Mason Graham from Michigan. Yeah, I don't think you can find other awesome defense tackles. No, he's the best offensive tackles. That's why a lot is who's going to be on the board when the bear's pick. Listen, I know we both like Gentie a lot. I just don't know what this draft is really good for.

It's not good for bad teams to get better. Right. Last year's draft, Washington got Jaden Daniels got better. Denver got Bo Nicks better. Last year's draft was good enough that bad teams could make the playoffs if they drafted well. That is not this draft. This draft is an icing draft. There's not a lot of cake in it.

Last year there was all sorts of cake. Jaden Daniels is a 15-year cake starter. This is an icing draft. So if you've got pieces but are missing like one piece bears like we need an explosive running back, this is the draft for it. And this whole Raiders potentially taking Ashton Genty, they're not even remotely close. And I know the Raiders fans hate when I take shots.

Let's be real. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Say more. Are they close to a wild card spot in the AFC? Okay, if you're the Raiders, and you're looking at all these quarterbacks in your division, and you have Gino, you have excellent tight ends. Your O-line's got young players that are good.

There's an absolute argument. Pete Carroll's like, when was I great in the NFL? Marshawn Lynch. I'm just saying, when was I great in college? Reggie Bush. I could absolutely see Pete Carroll saying, guys, we need a star out of the backfield.

We have the O line, our star tight-in weapon, a veteran quarterback. We need a home run in our division. I can see Gentie get it. You talk yourself into a superstar running back. For the record, all these first round running backs on, They've all hit. Well, wait a minute.

Bejohn Robinson and what is he done? Well, no, he's a good back. He's really good. He's a top 10 back in the league. Well, is that all his fault? Well, I mean, you look at Zeke and you look at Peterson and you look. Zeke. He was like 15 years ago.

Well, he was great. Sequin Barclay. On his second team. Jamir Gibbs. All these first round running, Lidani and Tomlinson, they're all excellent. Boy, you're falling in love with the accessories in your war room over there, huh? We take it a wide receiver 8-9? I may start wearing cuffling story.

Oh, my gosh. Give me a break. All right, final story is a little crazy and I refuse to believe it. So Adam Schaefter went on TV yesterday and essentially said that the Browns are looking hard at Abdul Carter number two overall. His verbiage was interesting, but he made it sound like he was in the known. Now, we're still a month ago and a lot can happen. I just refused. I will be totally floored if they pass on a quarterback.

Okay. So we talked about this. as a unit this morning as we prep for the show. I'm with you. I don't believe it. I think people put stuff out because they want stuff out and you get lied to. But here is the one, and I'm not, this is not a knock on Shephti. He does a great job. Here's the one thing where you can see Andrew Barry, the GM, talking himself into it.

Okay, we're in a division with Lamar and Burrow. What if we have the two best defensive ends in the division? Miles Garrett and Carter. Okay. Well, I'm just saying there's a reason Buffalo went and drafted Mario Williams. Because Tom, or did they go buy him or they ended up with him right? Houston got Mario Williams. And then they went and didn't they go buy them in Buffalo?

Yes. The take was, well, we got Tom, Brady in the division. And when you played against Peyton Manning, people in that division were drafting Rush N's. So I think you can make an argument. You can talk yourself into, listen, we're not going to be great at quarterback. And the other thing, the only thing I would think about this, if this rumor is true, but they signed him as a free agent, thanks guys. The only thing that makes me think about this is if Kevin Staphanian,

who is an offensive coach, passes on Shadur Sanders. Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. So Shadur is a pocket quarterback that is accurate. Those are not disputable. Kevin Stefansky likes pocket quarterbacks that are accurate. That is his brand. So if he passes on Shadur, start looking at the draft board. Where would Shadur fall to?

Because the Giants now have a surplus of quarterback. It just, it always makes me wonder. When offensive coaches move off quarterbacks, it's like, if they don't want him. Hey, hey, McVeigh, and I love golf, McVeigh moved off golf to Stafford. That told you who was better, right? When Kyle Shanahan moved off Trey Lance, that told you, I can't make it work because it makes me look bad that it doesn't. Did it, do you see Trey Lance is now in like the CFL? Yeah.

So it told Shanahan, if Shanahan bailes on a quarterback, Shocker, the Cowboys bet. You don't go get the quarterback. So, Lollin told you here. Raiders at 6 could look at Chador. Okay, let's talk about it. He wants to go to the Raiders. So the Giants now have James and Russell.

Now, maybe they're like, okay, well, let's get the kid. But that feels weird to me. Like, they have so many needs, I'd have three. Well, they can dump James. He's only like a $4 million capers. Then why did you just sign him? Well, in case that Chador's gone. I'll give you a truth bomb here in a sec.

But Jets at 7 would certainly look at Chador. Now, be careful, though. Saints at 9 would look at Chirno. The Gino contract, they're only working on guarantees. That's going to be a three-year deal. So you're going to have Chador sit for three years? You can move off. I mean, they moved off Kirk Cousins' deal to get Pennix in there.

So this is my theory on why this is happening. Everybody in their mom knows Brian Dable needs a quarterback. The Giants need a quarterback. It doesn't matter that they sign Russ. If you're the Browns, we're not taking Chador. But if you want him, you've got to trade up to two to get him before the Giants get him in three. So to me, this was a, hey, last call for Sodor Sanders. Anybody out there, you've got to come and trade with us to get him because he's going to the Giants at three.

That's what I believe the grounds are pushing. Here's what's interesting about the Giants. If they sign Shadur Sanders, Russell Wilson's contract is overwhelmingly tied to playing time. So you could just get rid of him. James, you'd eat about $10 million. You can get rid of him. So the Giants signed two veteran guys, but both contracts you could move off of by August, and it wouldn't matter.

You wouldn't move off both, but you may move off one. Somebody's going to get hurt. You'll have a surplice of quarterback. Somebody will take James or Russell. So the Giants are still very much in that. The more I think about it is that Russell contract is that compensation is overwhelmingly tied to playing time. And I know, listen, the Deshaun Watson stuff, were past him, but he's still on the roster, right? He's not going anywhere.

but you end that era. It's done the disgustingness of guarantee, all the embarrassment. That's done the second you drafts to our sailors. And you move on. New quarterback, new era, forget Watson. I think they need that, that cleansing. Yeah, no, I think you're right on that. I do think you're right.

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I think tech's better, but whatever. So Coach Calipari, I've had him on the show before. I have two strong opinions in his career so far. At first, I defended him. A lot of people banged on him for the one and done stuff at Kentucky. I defended him. I said, you don't want to be rigid. Coach Kay initially was rigid.

Bobby Knight, the late Bobby Knight was rigid. He's like, hey, I'm at Kentucky. It's a great program. I'm a good sales. his teams played hard. The kids were good kids. They went to class. I totally defended him.

And so I had him on the show. Then I turned on him and I was right. He started losing in the tournament. And he was losing to bad teams early or teams that he shouldn't lose to. And then he started selling us, and I'll give you the quote, he said on his goals at Kentucky, you may think he said it's a national title. That is not true. My job is bigger than that.

I want to get players drafted, like John Wall couldn't get drafted without Calipari. He said, for me, the mission is to be the vehicle that helps others reach their dreams. Oh, give me a break. Give me a break. Why didn't you say that when you got the job? You said it's all about winning natties. That was for you because you were losing in the tournament to shift the narrative to, hey, I'm beyond winning natties. Can you imagine taking the Ohio State football job, the Georgia football job, say, you know,

my job isn't to win bowl games or nannies it's just to get these kids to the nfl even bad georgia football coaches get guys to the nfln even bad coaches at kentucky get guys to the nba in the first round so that was a bunch of nonsense and by the way to add to that the mission he was selling at the end he was selling it i didn't buy it i started calling him john caliponsie because it's all a scheme now okay so that's what i said now he didn't like me that's fine but the mission at the end at kentucky which got him fired because he wasn't winning enough in March, Duke started beating him on one and done players using his mission, which is it's more than basketball.

It's about life. Calipari took a not so thinly-veiled shot at Duke for selling that. It's like, wait a minute, John. That's your whole thing when you couldn't win Natties. You couldn't even beat Oakland in the first round. Your whole thing was, well, it's beyond March. A, it's not. Kentucky basketball or Ohio State football.

It's not beyond that. Bad coaches get guys to the league in the first round of those schools. Okay, so I'm just like, okay, it's just a Ponzi scheme here. Give me a break. But that said, he's great for college basketball. Great at the podium, great recruiter, excellent job building up programs, deserves all sorts of credit. Now, most of college basketball media is toothless,

so they're not going to call him out on stuff. like that pivot to I'm not here to win titles, which, yes, at Arkansas, you need to win titles, right? Like, Arkansas basketball hasn't been relevant since, like, Sidney Moncrief. So it matters, especially in the SEC, which is stacked, it matters. Well, they had Todd Day at one point. Yeah, there you go, big deal. I mean, when's the last time you and your buddies at a bar talked about that? I mean, come on.

Sydney Moncrief was great. He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, where people used to read that magazine. So my point being is, I turned on him, but I'm not. I do think this team has had to overcome a bunch of injuries. He's great for the tournament, and I'm going to be rooting for him tonight. I'd rather have Calipari in the tournament in the Elite 8 than I would Texas Tech, and he was on Dan Patrick show yesterday talking about the Razorbacks. What's happened for us this season has been the most rewarding season.

I've had seasons where we won more games and won national titles and final fours and elite eights. I've had all those. but what this team has been through to survive it, it's been as rewarding as any season. These kids, all of them, have pianos on their backs because of NIL. Well, they're paid. They should do this.

And they're trying to live up to expectations. So this again, to all coaches in Division I, I think it sounds wonderful that your mission is greater than winning in March. But if you coach UCLA or Kentucky, Kansas, you know, Yukon. Your job is to win in March. Okay, the bottom line, those kids are going to be fine without you. They were great in high school.

They were great in AAU. They're going to be great in college for about 45 minutes. They're going to be fine in the NBA. The mission is to win for college coaches. Nobody's paying these guys $11 million a year because they're good with the pelicans. That's not why anybody's paying these guys. You've got to win big games. I'm not paying you.

I'll pay you $2 million at Kentucky to coach if you don't win in but they're good kids. I'm not paying you $9 million. And that's what the big jobs are. Same with Michigan football and Ohio State football. Now, I will say this, there are institutions like Duke, which is so rigorous academically or Notre Dame football or Duke basketball, where I do think, I do think it is beyond just playing there.

The Duke family and the Notre Dame family academically is greater than just your playing time. Kentucky basketball, that's not an academic powerhouse. He's about basketball. Playing March, get money, be a good pro, help your family. That's a great mission, too. But if anybody can sell, I'm about more than, you know, winning in March. I get that for some academic powers. Like Notre Dame football is bigger than Notre Dame football.

Look how many Notre Dame football players have been CEOs of companies all throughout the country. I know like four Notre Dame guys who are now like running companies. That's not typical for football programs to have that many great successful. guys. So blah, blah, blah. I will tell you this. I watched last night. So I had said this about Steph Curry before they got Jimmy Butler. I said, he's kind of on a treadmill to nowhere. And then Jimmy Butler arrived and Steph's numbers all went through the roof because he was engaged. And if you've been great and you've got multiple titles and $500 million, it's hard to be playing for a playing game. I mean, LeBron, the minute Luke arrived.

was totally energized. Steph, the minute Jimmy Butler arrived, totally energized. We saw Michael Jordan at the end in Washington, treadmill to nowhere. Some nights good, some nights didn't care. So it's very interesting what's happening to KD. So he scores 30 last night and the sons lose by 30. He's on a treadmill you would think to nowhere. But it's not.

So I watched this game last night. KD was amazing. last three games, KD is auditioning for the league. The guy's been the best player in the league, the last three games. 37 a night, 60% shooting, 63%. He was great last night against the Celtics. And he wanted to show the New York Knicks or maybe the Celtics. You know, if you want to get rid of Porzenghis, I'm still pretty good.

He was auditioning to the Celtics last night. He was auditioning for the New York Knicks last night. So the Knicks are a bad fourth quarter team. And the Knicks are a terrible come from behind team. They don't have enough shot makers. That's why Yonis isn't a great fit. He's not a shot maker and he can't hit free throws. KD is both.

So as I watched this game last night, my takeaway is KD came totally zoned in. He was showing the Celtics. That poor Zingis guy, and Porzingis was good last night. If you want to make a move, I don't need the ball in my hands. I don't need the ball in my hand. You can have Tatum and whoever have the ball. Just get the ball to me late. But you could not watch that game

and not see how engaged and attacking Kevin Durant was. Nick Wright talked about some Celtics KD rumors. Two totally unrelated people, both of whom have reputations for knowing things that other people don't know, have said to me, watch out for Durant in Boston.

I don't know even the pieces that it would work and it feels a lot like what Durant got killed for with Colton State before so it doesn't make sense. But it's different. KD to the Warriors were different. Why? Because Steph was the soul of the city.

Right? Like it was Steph's team. Steph was beloved. Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum are excellent players. But I'd argue, you know, they've had Bill Russell and they've had Havelcheck and they've had Larry Bird. I mean, Steph is the all-time warrior. And Dramon is a pretty combative personality.

So, and Clay Thompson was excellent. And when he went to that organization, there was always this kind of weird thing where it's Steph's team, but Katie's winning MVP, and I'm not sure if Draymond loves him, and it was a weird fit. It's different in Boston. Okay, so to get KD, the sons would probably get like a platter of Porzinger

and Derek White and Picks. And in Boston, where they've had, you know, multiple great players, multiple dynasties, and Tatum isn't Stefan Golden State. He's not like the Godfrey. father of basketball. He's just a very good player. So I, and KD's got the kind of personality, he has no problem just coming and hitting shots in Boston. Hey man, I'll be your third guy hitting shots. Remember, Katie's leaving Phoenix. Why is he playing like that last night? Why has

he been so good in the last week when a lot of stars are resting? That dude is auditioning for jobs. There is no question watching him last night. He was on a huge. Peter, he was making a point, and I've said this, keep your eye on the Knicks as well. The Knicks are a bad fourth quarter team. They do not play well from behind. They don't have shot makers. And we're not sure if Brunson's a one or a one A or a two. Yonnes is a great player.

At this point, does maybe more things well than KD, but he can't shoot. And so he doesn't help you when you're behind because Yonis can't hit free throws, and he's got no jumpers. KD is the kind of guy you can bring in, give him the ball late in the shot clock, and he ends up with 34 points. I mean, last night, Celtics play real defense. Dude was great. It was great.

So Jay Max kind of rolling his eyes at this stuff. Just keep your eyes on KD is, he was great last night. I like it. I don't know how he gets to the Knicks or Celtics because you're not giving up a lot for a 37-year-old who can only get bucket. I'm not giving up a lot for Kevin Durant. I give up a lot for Janus.

He's 37, Colin? He's a shooter. So? He shoots. I watched him last night. Houston Rockets seem to be the perfect landing spot. They have draft picks and you don't have to give up that much. No, Houston is a very interesting landing spot.

I can see Houston doing it. They get bounced in the first round by somebody. You know, hey, we need a star. Let's add Kevin Durant, veteran to the locker room. I get it. That makes sense. Where would you like him to go? Houston, so I look good. Give me some time on that.

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