The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 1 - Mahomes, Steelers-Ravens, Brady

Episode Date: December 6, 2021

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Oh, the news just keeps getting better. Live in Los Angeles, it's the herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening, IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and Joy Taylor, one hour from now, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, plenty of both, and the new Notre Dame coach, Marcus Freeman. Oh, Mario Cristobal is the new coach

with the Miami Hurricanes. So Miami and USC, this is something I've been saying for years. College football, it's okay if it's got 10% glamour because 90% of it's small-town America. Right. It's okay for 10% of college football to be Texas is a glamour program, Miami's a glamour program, USC's a glamour program. You can have both. It's okay.

Don't be scared. Miami, Mario Cristobal, great hire. Congratulations. I feel like you spoke this into existence, Colin. You're like Levar Ball. You're going to speak some more things over my life. I told USC, I said, please just swing big. Just swing big.

You did, but that's what you have to do when you're USC and your Miami. And it's, you're big, your pro sports markets, right? Like people are distracted. Don't hire some guy from Akron and think it's going to be big. All right, I want to start with the NFL. So when Patrick Mahomes entered the league, people freaked out. And not that I was a cynic, but even Mahomes' family, I was told, said, you know, Coward's the last guy to join the party on Mahalms.

And Patrick's a great kid. And I'm rooting for him, and he's got a Super Bowl, and he'll probably win another. But the media needs a new story. And the media loves cool and new because it's more fun to write about. So the left-handed passes and sidearm throws. And yeah, Tom Brady doesn't do those. And either does Justin Herbert. And right now, Justin Herbert's the best quarterback in that division, not Patrick

Holmes. Have you watched the last two months what's happening? I like Mahomes. But the media goes crazy on new and fun and exciting and that's not what wins. Tonight the two best teams arguably in the AFC, Boring New England and Buffalo and a snowstorm will play. And boring New England's the hottest team in the league. And the Miami Dolphins and Washington playing great defense with B-minus quarterbacks, they're winning. What's not winning right now, what's not blowing everybody away is Kansas City's offense. Great coach, really good line, great weapons, and Patrick Mahomes is struggling. He has had one good game in two months.

I love him. He'll be fine. He'll figure it out. He's coachable. He's a good kid. But when guys like me rolled our eyes at the left-handed passes, it's one pass in a four-hour game or the sidearm stuff. stuff. Like he's lost his mechanics. He's broken right now. Now, thank God, the Kansas City defense is fantastic. Chris Jones is unblockable. They deserve all the credit. But Mahalms, for the first time ever,

no touchdown passes, back-to-back games. In the last eight games, he's played poorly in seven. In the last five, four of the five, he's out of pass a rating under 75. And by the way, this is what the scouts, believe it or not, scouts know more about this stuff than you and I did. This is what they out of college. I'll read you a quote from Lance Zerline. He's the one radio host in America who I believe in when it comes to scouting. He knows his stuff. He said on Mahomes, he doesn't have a very repeatable process as a passer. What does that mean? That's the opposite of Brady. That's why Brady just works on mechanics over and over. It's repeatable and repeatable. And Mahomes, everything looks different. Every pass looks different. And now his mechanics are in the

toilet and he's either broken and will need an off season to get it right, that's my guess, or he'll get it right in the next two or three weeks. He's coachable. He knows he's struggling, and Kansas City will be fine. But, you know, just know going in that the media falls for new fun and flashy. And by the way, we all do. It's fun. Like, right, like new talent.

But if you look at right now what's working in quarterback play, Brady's going to win the MVP. Now, Lamar Jackson's more fun to watch and Mahomes is more fun to watch and Josh Allen's more fun to watch. I love watching Josh Allen. Way more than Mack Jones tonight. But uncool and repeatable and kind of boring, it wins in this league. We all want a new Georgia, Alabama won. We all want a new AFC Titan, New England's the hottest team. We all want this guy as an MVP.

Brady's going to win it. Mahomes, at least, this is why I think Mahomes will be fine. He's not cocky. He's totally coachable. He's super talented. He's a great kid, but he's got to go back to being boring and the basics. Every pass is, he's just, his mechanics are in the toilet, and he talked about it after. Obviously, we feel like we're not playing our best football.

We have spurts where we're really good, and then we have spurts where we kind of have these, we're not scoring. We're not finding ways to finish drives. So definitely as a competitor, you want to be better. But I think you win football games, you win football games at the end of the day. And so for us, if we keep winning football games, defense keeps playing the way that they're playing. When the offense, we really become who we know we can be, will be a hard football team to beat. But the problem is their identity, their core identity is offense. They're not running the football.

Now they're not passing it well. So when you go into the playoffs, New England's got an identity. Miami and Washington now may not even make the playoffs. They got an identity. Buffalo's got an identity. So the problem right now with Kansas City, their core identity is big plays. So they're not running the ball,

but that never mattered when they were a big play offense. And now they're not. 16 points against Denver last night. In fact, Andy read at one point in the fourth quarter, fourth and two kicked a field goal, the fans booed. That tells you right now, they are not confident in the side of the ball that we all thought was going to win six Super Bowls.

Boring's okay, too. You can win being boring, especially in December. All right. Let me, do you guys hear Mario Cristobald's coaching Miami? I'm sorry. Lincoln Riley got the USC job. I'm just being obnoxious now. Okay. I want to talk about the Steelers Ravens. And so it was a fantastic game. The late window was crazy. Baltimore, Pittsburgh was uneven. It was kind of messy, but I found it fascinating. And there was a lot of criticism in the end because Baltimore went for two and they've got the world's best field goal kicker. And they are the better team.

Baltimore is better than Pittsburgh. So if you have the better team and you got the world's best field goal kicker, then you should just kick the extra point and go to overtime. But let me just add this while I'll defend Baltimore on that. Because when you build a business, and that's all football is, it's just even college football now, most of you are finally acknowledging what those of us who are. knew it years ago, it's a business. Joey and I have been saying this for years. It's a business. Get over it. NFL and college are the same business.

Just one, you have to go to class occasionally. But here's why I'll defend Baltimore. It's very consistent with their business model. This is what they do. This is what Baltimore does. The Chargers and the Ravens are goal for it on fourth down teams. Second part of this, Big Ben was playing his butt off. Deontay Johnson, the wide receiver for the Steelers, was uncoverable.

And the Ravens were falling apart. And so the way to lose locker rooms in the NFL is confusion. And players start questioning the coach. Nobody in that Baltimore locker room this morning is questioning John Harbaugh or Lamar Jackson. This is their brand. The Dallas Cowboys, y'all get beside yourself because Mike McCarthy, field goal, go for it, field goal, go for it. Aren't you always criticizing the Cowboys because you never know what they are?

you always know what the Ravens are. With Lamar Jackson and John Harbaugh, they're into analytics and they go for it. Football is a business. And how you run your business, here's what never happens in Baltimore. They never lose a locker room. Good, bad, or indifferent. The Ravens never lose a locker room ever because they all know this is what we do. we're not passive.

You know, like the UFC. The UFC is Dana White full of testosterone. For everything. They push back. They yell. They scream. They attack the media. But that's their business model.

If Dana White suddenly became politically correct and, oh, you know, we're not going to do that because the media is after us. Everybody at UFC would be like, well, wait, that's not your business model. Ravens are aggressive. They always have been. They've always had a great owner. They've always had a great front office. They never lose the locker room. And they went for it.

Yes, yes, they've got the world's best kicker. But that would just get you to overtime on the road against the hot quarterback and unguardable Deontay Johnson. And as John Harbaugh said after, we were running out of players. John Harbaugh. After. Try to win the game right there. We were pretty much out of corners, you know, at that point in time. So there's an opportunity to try to win the game right there.

No, it did not. You know, they aggressively play analytics. And so, you know, from that standpoint, they're predictable. Yeah, but that's okay. You need to be somewhat predictable inside your own business, inside the walls of your locker room. You know, Dave Wanstead used to always say, you can lose games, you can't lose a locker room.

You can't lose a locker room. You can't lose a lot. Chicago, Dalton, Justin Fields, that feels like to lose in the locker room, right? Like when the young guys like that guy and the old guys like that guy, 49ers are like, hey, Jimmy Garoppolo, that's who we're starting this year. You don't lose the locker room.

And so I'll defend Baltimore. And by the way, you know, everybody had the play worked and it was half a football from being complete for touchdown. It was about four or five inches. Mark Andrews, great tight end. This is about four to five inches from winning the game. None of you would have said a word. None of you would have had the courage to go on Twitter and say,

what a terrible decision. So I'm not going to give you the audience and the platform to bang on him when it didn't work. It was completely true to their core values as a franchise, win or lose. All right, great to have you in. We got so much going on today. Joy Taylor's herd line news today. She may just do eight minutes, three times of hurricane football. And she has got my okay on that.

Very exciting. Very exciting stuff. It is. I've said before. It's football, it's okay to have Ann Arbor and Norman, Oklahoma, and Stillwater, and Pullman, Washington, and Athens, Georgia. Awesome. But it's okay to have Miami and L.A.

Matter two. It's good for the sport. USC, Texas got a 22 and a half rating. That beats NFL playoff games. The country told you, we like some glamour too. Nothing wrong with mashed potatoes. There's nothing wrong with, you know, pork chop.

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Notre Dame's new coach, Marcus Freeman next hour, Colin Wright, Colin wrong, 45 minutes from now. So, you know, it's interesting, and I think we've talked about this before, that I like my quarterbacks in 2021 to have some ability to be mobile. If you look at the way the rule changes are, I like my quarterbacks to have some wiggle. When Russell Wilson broke into this league seven or eight years ago, I'm like, this is, he's unique, he's an outlier. Well, now he doesn't necessarily feel like an outlier, right? like a lot of guys move. But it's interesting to note this. Jalen Hertz moves around a lot.

He's hurt. Lamar Jackson moves around a lot. He's regressed. Kyler Murray runs around a lot. He's not at 100% second year in early he was hurt. Justin Fields. Very athletic. Hurt.

You know who's not? Tom Brady. Who should be the MVP. Number one in touchdown passes. Number one in passing yards. Number one, he averages only quarterback to average over 300 yards a game, only team to average over 30 points, is that I like my quarterbacks to be able to move. And Brady's so good at the line of scrimmage.

He moves very well inside the pocket, but he doesn't and that's okay. But I hope we're all paying attention to all the guys moving are hurt or regressing. Mahomes, a little bit of a mover, regressing. Lamar, regressing. Jalen hurts, hurt. Justin Fields hurt. Kyler Murray hurt again. And so, you know, let's be honest, too.

December football is different. The longest winning streak in this league right now are New England, Miami, Washington, and Kansas City. And the story with all of them is defense. So December football, the NFL added a game. Okay, that's another game. That's another 10 or 12 hits on the body. So, you know, as much as we all love a quarterback that can move,

Brady is the runaway MVP. Kyler Murray had he stayed healthy, would have won my vote. But you start looking around right now, and it's okay if the quarterback moves. But Bryce Young for Alabama is a thrower. Tom Brady is a thrower. Justin Herbert, healthy is a thrower. And the defenses now and the pocket quarterbacks are once again in December making their presence felt. Here was Gronk after Tampa's big win over Atlanta.

I mean, we go way back back in the heyday with that connection. I mean, we've been working on that since, you know, 2010 together. And it definitely, you know, paid off there. And I would say that second touchdown definitely brought it back to the heyday with the fade. He gave me an audible. And it wasn't supposed to have a fade, but he saw it. And it just reminds me of the heydays with us. You know, it's interesting.

Gronk there almost gave you the signal. Do you see that? He put his hand up. He audibled me. Then he pulled his hand down because Tom has some physical cue and Gronk almost gave it away there. But it is interesting. If you look at December, weather is colder. Late summer football, September does not look like December.

That's why I said about the Cowboys on Thursday. They won by 10 on the road against the really good defense. That's okay. Don't get too picky. I don't care who you play. Your quarterback's healthy. You're playing good defense. Miami right now.

Two is healthy. Playing good defense. Quarterbacks healthy. You're playing defense. You're running the football a little. You feel like now. You may be inartistic. It's not pretty, but you feel like a playoff team to me.

Joy with the news. No. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. It's all about the youth. Well, it is today. We said we were going to be obnoxious, right? You have a right to be obnoxious.

I'm going to be honest with you, Colin. I've had some sauces on this. I've been following this very closely, as obviously I have deep connections in Miami and know lots of Keynes fans and some deep into Kane's Twitter as well. But until Mani Diaz was gone, I was not celebrating.

Like, no point in getting my hopes up about this until they let go of Mani Diaz because that's what the story was the entire time. They're not going to let Manny go until they have it in writing. And by all that stuff we were talking about promises last week and integrity and all that. Sounds great. Let me see the paperwork with the signature and your contact signature on it before we celebrate. By the way, the story came out.

Christobal and Miami had been working on this since early November. Yeah. Folks, get over your integrity stuff. The bottom line, this is why you have agents. Christobal's like he tells his agent in early November. Yes, I'm interested. It's my home. My family would prefer to live there.

I'm not going to talk about it. I want deniability. You go work on it. And then the agent, this is what happens, goes and works on it for a month. And then Christobal can pay attention to football. He and the agent talk every four or five days. And the agent says, but it allows the coach to do what he does. But all you integrity pushers, stop it already.

By the way, Oklahoma got their guy. Miami got their guy, USC got their guy, Notre Dame got their guy. Some got high profile head coaches, USC. Some got, or Cristobal, some got really, really talented coordinators, Oklahoma. Everybody got some got a guy within their program. Notre Dame. I think they all did very, very well. And there were a lot of different paths to get your guy.

But you got to stop, folks. College football is a business. And these big brands like Notre Dame, Miami, USC, they're going to get their guy. and they're going to call your coach in the middle of a season if they want him, and you've got to come to terms with it. Yeah, and I think that this particular coaching carousel, if we want to call it that, can pretty much put to rest the idea that nobody is ever going to leave a program.

Oh, God. Like, that's over with. I did not think this was going to happen. I didn't think any of these moves were going to happen, and they all seemed like they happened overnight, but they really didn't because it's business. And guess what? That's how all deals are done.

They're never done overnight. You got to have lawyers look stuff over. You got to negotiate. These things don't happen within a couple of hours. But the reason why this one has dragged out a bit longer is because Mario wanted to tell the players himself. He didn't want it to be out in the media, although all, you know, things do leak because there's conversations being had for a long amount of time. But he wanted to tell the players in person and have that conversation. Well, Miami is fired head coach, Mani Diaz.

So now we know that they are moving forward with Mario Cristobal because they were holding on to Mani this whole time. He was with the Keynes for three seasons, 21 and 15 record. second in the ACC behind Pitt this year. He's not, didn't do a terrible job, but there are certain standards at the University of Miami. There's expectations at the University of Miami similar to USC and, and these other major schools that they want to win. By the way, all the coaches hired are known as good recruiters. Mani Diaz is not known as a great recruiter. That's what the sport is. Thank you. That's what the sport is. The NFL is a business and college football is a business. They are, however, different businesses, because how you acquire

talents and keep that talent is different. Well, in the NFL, the team selects the player. In college, the player selects the team. Right. You need a salesman as a coach. And Christabal is a massive, good-looking, massive alpha presence. He'll be, and that's what, by the way, that's what Miami needs. A Miami guy, and like a Jimmy Johnson, big presence. Howard Schnellenberger, big, Miami's a pro sports town. They're distracted. They got the beach. Look at your hotel room. It's aqua water. They got better stuff to do. than watch average football. Schnellenberger, Jimmy Johnson,

and Mario Cristobal. They walk into a room and they take your breath away a little. They're like, whoa. Well, he's known for being a great recruiter. Yes. Everywhere he went. Now, he has a 35 and 13 record at his Oregon's head coach. He got him to two pack 12 titles and won a Rose Bowl.

But what's unique about Mario is he's really a Miami guy. And for the longest time, that was the conversation around Miami. The former players at the University of Miami have a lot of say in influence. Obviously the boosters are very influential. The alumni, the high profile alumni in Miami are very influential. Everybody wants a Miami guy. You got to be Miami.

There's just certain places where it feels like you've got to be authentic. That's why the Brian Kelly thing is very interesting. I think he's a great enough coach to overcome clearly not being a Louisiana guy. You know what I mean? You have to fit that culture there to all those points. He played there. He won a national championship there. He played under Jimmy Johnson.

He coached there. He grew up there. He went to Christopher Columbus High School. He knows everything that's going to go on in that city. His brother's big in law enforcement in the town. Like this is a, I mean, Lincoln Riley is a good hire by USC, but he has no connection to L.A. Right. This is a perfect fit for Miami.

There couldn't be a better candidate. I know the Miami fans and alumni are super happy about this. And so now let's just support it. and start working on that new stadium for them because you've got to get the games playing somewhere. So the Lions finally did it. Yeah. Let's hear it for the Detroit Lions.

Knee biters. Why did I care so much? I saw your tweet. I did. I was very invested. I was literally gripping. I thought it was fantastic. I was nervous.

So was I. Because Detroit's been in these last second situations a couple times this year. Like five times, four times. Like, come on. Like just get just. Do it. And it was actually a great play. It wasn't like a fluke thing. Jared Goff led the Lions on a 75-yard drive, less than two minutes remaining,

and they got their first one of the season. On a last second touchdown to St. Brown, they beat the Vikings 29, 27. Let's take a listen to that final moment. First victory of the year on the line. Goff's got it. Back, looks, throws, ends up. Yes. Touchdown to Court Lions.

They did it. Amon Ross, St. Brown, the receiving end. Oh, they're rushing. They've done it. Three zero's on the clock. This game is over. It's over. The local calls are always the best in the big moments.

There's no comparison. It was just such a wonderful, you know, because it's funny. There's five bad teams in this league, but the Lions don't feel hopeless. First of all, their tackle is excellent. Browns, the fourth round driver receiver, excellent. Their defensive line picks are playing. Like, their draft picks are. are playing, they have another great pick, and Goff is going to be the quarterback. If Goff has

time to throw, it's always been the thing with Jared. Yeah, we know that. Yeah, Jared's Matt Ryan. He's fine. You don't need to blow stuff up. Keep Goff for a couple years, build the roster, and Jared Goff has been able to get to the playoffs if he has a little time to throw. Played in the Super Bowl. He's capable when he has time to throw. But that's everything's not always going to be perfect in the NFL, which is the issue with Derek Goff. But all good things yesterday. Congrats to the Lions. It was very exciting. I hate seeing teams lose every game of the season. It's the worst. Nobody wants that. Nobody wants bad teams in the NFL, despite what any of you fan bases think. And it always

brings me back to that 2007 Miami team because they finally beat the Ravens and I completely empathize with the Lions players, the staff. Like, I cried, I sobbed like they won the Super Bowl. Cleo Lemon to Greg Camerio. I was, I had snot bubbles. I was so happy that they did lose every game. So congrats lions. Now, Kyler Murray is back and back like he never left. Returned after missing three games to an ankle sprain. Didn't miss a beat.

Two touchdowns ran for two more. 33-22 win over the Bears. One of his touchdown passes went to Giannjohnry Hopkins, who was also out three games with a hamstring injury. So they become the first team to reach 10 wins this season. And they are in control of the NFC is the one seat. I really, Green Bay and Arizona just feel like a. different level.

AFC is all cloudy. We'll find out some stuff tonight in Monday night football. But boy, when Kyler Murray is healthy and the Packers are semi-healthy, they just, they feel better than everybody. But what's so impressive about Arizona and the Packers is that when they aren't healthy, they're still finding ways to win. They went two-and-one without Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins. That's a real thing.

Aaron Rogers is basically playing on one foot and they're winning games. So that's what's really impressive is that you're overcoming what everyone is dealing with in the NFL in injuries and still able to get big wins. So glad to have them back, though. They're exciting to watch. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurdline News. Let's bring in Mike Vic, 13 years, four-time Pro Bowl or Fox analyst brought to you by Mercedes-Benz the best or nothing. You know, it is interesting. Kyler Murray runs, but he's a little banged up. Mike, I would imagine in your career, you played often banged up and not 100%. And adrenaline probably got you through a lot of starts, right?

Oh, yeah, Colin. 90% of my career I played with some sort of injury, something lingering, something that was re-agravated and just not feeling good. I can't remember a time or a season where I was 100% healthy, but you know what that does? That kind of strengthens your focus. It helps you throughout the course of a game to kind of keen in, be keen, hone in on certain things and be very, very distinctly your decision-making.

You know, why I hated it, I kind of liked it because my focus was on a totally different level than when I was 100%. I could tell you that for sure. Okay, Lamar Jackson has regressed. Mahomes has regressed. Let's talk about Patrick Mahomes. You know, I said this earlier. One of the knocks on him out of college was you ran, you run around, but you had a very beautiful throwing motion. So does Kyler Murray.

So does Russell Wilson. But Mahomes, Mike, when I watch him, he can go sideways. arm. He doesn't have what they call a repeatable throwing motion. He kind of just looks different. And that when I watch him, that's what I see, is that he kind of makes it up as he goes. That's what I feel. And I feel he's sort of lost his way mechanically. What do you see? Yeah, it's not like Aaron Rogers or Tom Brady, a repetitive throwing motion where it always comes out the same, always looks the same. You know, sometimes he's trying to find throwing lanes, but as a quarterback, when you get into a rhythm of doing certain things a certain way, sidearm and passes, because you do it in practice.

And then, you know, you find yourself doing it in the game just naturally. You know, it's not something that you really focus on. You try to correct, but when it happens and it doesn't go well, you kind of look at it and you start to question it. So, with a lot of sidearm passes, you know, Lamar does the same thing. You're going to hit helmets. You're going to get balls batted because the ball is. coming out with a lower trajectory. Are you worried at all about Lamar?

I will defend Baltimore going for two because they always are hyper-aggressive. So I don't think you lose a locker room going for two and failing. I think players are okay with that. They don't want to go to overtime either. Are you worried about Lamar, though, in his struggles? Yeah, I'm worried, Colin, in the sense, because, you know, as I look at, you know, quarterbacks and how we go through the course of a season, I can only think about myself. and in year four, year five, you know, when I was taking a lot of hits and doing a lot and being

actually doing a lot, you know, it really wore on me. But, you know, we feel that responsibility to just take on everything and we'll, you know, we'll run into a brick wall for our team. And I know Lamar, that's his character. That's how he is. But, you know, as you go, you've got to progress. You got to progress into a pass and, you know, your longevity is in, you know, you're progressing the football down the field in a passing fashion. So, you know, got to get some things cleaned up. You know, can't run the ball as much down the stretch as he's done in the past because he's only getting older and it's more weighing tears.

So they've got to be real meticulous about how they use a Lamar moving forward. By the way, would you, let me just ask you, if you were a quarterback in that situation, would you rather go for two or kick a field goal, give me a break, and go to overtime? Now, it's a road game. If you were a road quarterback, because there's no right answer. answer on this to me, what would you say to John Harbaugh? Yeah, on the road, I want to go for two. I want to get up out of there. And, you know, because our defense is gassed and you know that as a player, especially as a quarterback,

because we keep an eye on our defense and what they're doing, how they're performing. You know, they just came off the field. They lost the time of possession battle throughout the third and fourth quarter, and this was a chance to end it. And they had an opportunity to do it. the receiver was there. The tight name Mark Andrews was open. I think Lamar, another pass. He had the sidearm and throw around the guy, unfortunately. But, you know, Colin, I can count on my hand how many times I went for two throughout the course of my career.

And, you know, I know some games was probably decided by one or two. And, you know, just to have that opportunity now, guys got to appreciate it because it's going to come up again. And the more experience you get in that situation, the better you're going to be down the road. By the way, it is December football. And Miami's playing well. defense. Washington's playing well, defense. Tampa's playing well. They're running the football. Tell my audience, I mean, Brady knows this drill, by the way. Now he's going to his tight end. They're running the football. It's pretty obvious what they're doing. You tell me,

December, football, September, what's the difference? Well, I heard you say earlier. I was watching the show. You know, it's about defense and running the football, kind of controlling the clock. But more so on the defensive side of the ball. And I think defenses, they get better because, you know, if you look at the first couple weeks of the season, you know, everybody's kind of trying to guess, you know, what other teams are going to do, you know, what your opposition is going to bring to the table. And, you know, after, you know, five or six weeks, you know, you got, you got filmed. And teams are not going to get away from what they do or things that's favorable for them. And now you've got a trend on defense that you can follow. Now you can scheme around what these teams are doing, whether they're going to do it against you or versus opponents that they've played.

They're not going to go too far away or stem too far away from what they do best. So now you can scheme around that. You can game plan and then you can go full steam ahead. So a lot of these offenses, they just get caught up with. And mainly it's by the top defensive coordinators in the game or top defensive minds in the game to build Belichick and the Steve Spagnolans of the game who see things, recognize it, point it out, and then send their guys to go attack it. By the way, you played at Virginia Tech.

They fired their coach. they have a new coach. You live in Fort Lauderdale. That's Hurricane Country. They fired their coach. They have a new coach. You know, I was saying, Mike, is that coaches get, Mani Diaz has been sitting out there for days,

hearing the school's been interviewing somebody. And I'm like, that's why I don't have a problem with coaches leaving. These organizations will fire them in the middle of their contract. They'll, you know, leave them hanging like Mani Diaz. And I'm not blaming Miami. That's the reality of the game. What do you make of the Miami hurricane situation? Cristobal, Mani Diaz just sitting there for a weekend, he doesn't know.

I've always looked at college football as a business. None of it hurts my feelings. How do you view it? Well, I think Cristobal would be a good fit. You know, he has the resume. You know, he's had a lot of success in the past. But it has to be nerve-wracking for Mani-Diaz to just be sitting and seeing all these coaches get moving around the country, getting paid, you know, millions of dollars

and not knowing what your future holds. But it's a good fit for Miami. You know, unfortunately, well, fortunately, Virginia Tech, we found our coach, and maybe we would have gave Manny a shot. But, you know, we got Coach Prime. We're looking forward to that. But, you know, for Manny Diaz, he'll land on his feet. You know, he'll land somewhere where he can go, be successful, learn from his mistakes, and get it ready to do it all over again. But, you know, as college coaches, you know, the most important thing you got to be able to do is recruit.

And you got to have a name and you got to have some privacy around you so that you can. can be successful in your state. So, you know, those are key things that I think, man, he got to focus on, but he'll definitely land on his feet. Good stuff, Michael Vick. Good seeing you, Zohas, bud. Appreciate you stopping by. Mike Vick, Fox Sports.

You know, listen, the reality is, is Howard Stern was fired. I mean, you go look at Mark Cuban. You look at all these great American success stories. There's been bankruptcies. There's been firing. If you're good, you'll get hired. Man, woman, young, old. If you're talented, you'll land back on your feet.

Because there's basically in every single industry, there's about one to two percent difference makers. And everybody's looking for a difference maker. So Manny Diaz, if he can really coach, he'll be fine. But all you guys are bellyache in the last week about integrity, well, you all got a good coach. And in the end, the Oklahoma's, the U.S.Cs, the Miamys, the Notre Dame, you hired somebody that you consider a one-percenter. And you had to pull them away from here and pull them away from there, and the timing's never great.

But the NCAA has these early signing period, so schools are backed up against it. When they fire a coach, they've got to get a guy in in 24 hours so he can build a staff and recruit. But in the end, every school that just hired a coach thinks he's a one-to-two-percenter. Half will be right. Half will be wrong. But I'm never bothered by the process to get him,

because I've always understood, and I think most of you had, it's a business. By the way, tenure, professors is a business. You want to get your tenure. Everybody wants to get their tenure so they can get that pension for the rest of their life. It's all college campuses. They recruit. The fundraising is a business. The recruiting is a business.

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and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast, it's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun,

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What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me. Not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line.

We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get

your podcasts. Oh, it's such a great time of the year. I, you know, I grew up in a small town, so I have a soft spot for people that grow up in small towns because Joy grew up in like Pittsburgh and then moved to Miami. She's a big city girl. She's intimidating. I grew up in a small town. So when you grow up in a small town, you have to leave it if you have dreams. And Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert grew up in small towns, and Justin Burroughs' route was, Ohio State and they had transfer and didn't have a very good first year and they had an amazing second year. And then Justin Herbert grew up right next to the University of Oregon, small town, right down the street.

And that's the school he wanted to go to. And he played and we didn't talk much about Justin Herbert and nobody believed in him. I had so much fun yesterday. These guys are so kid next door quality. I had so much fun watching this game. They're really old school quarterbacks. They really are. They love to throw from the pocket.

They're from small towns. Yesterday, Herbert got the better of Joe Burrow. They're both going to have wonderful careers. They both would prefer to throw it from the pocket, but they like to sling it. They like to sit back there and air it out. They both take big risks. Neither is afraid to go deep.

Neither is afraid to throw it up for grabs. And yesterday, the Chargers won all the jump balls. But there's a soft spot for here. And, you know, these are just, these are great stories that Joe Burrow had to transfer to get to the NFL. everybody had questions about Justin Herbert, and I'm sitting there watching these two. Herbert 6, 5 and a half, huge arm, a little more mechanical than Joe Burrow, who's got a little Tony Romo quality, runs around, a little bit of a gamer, a little bit of playmaker.

But boy, the AFC, tonight you'll see Josh Allen and Mac Jones. And we know there's Lamar Jackson and Mahomes. They've regressed a little bit. They'll be fine. But you start looking at that AFC. The NFC's got a lot of old recordings. quarterbacks, right? Like, they had a lot of old guys. But I'm telling you, I sat here and watched this thing and I'm like, if they play for the next 10 years, those guys are going to be in so many

great shootouts and so many big games. And they both had completely different routes. But they're both small town kids who had, you know, really good support systems eventually and found their way to the NFL. But it was, it really was, it had a real old school quality. Just guys dropping back slinging it. In fact, let's see, Herbert threw it 35 times. Joe Burrow threw it 40 times. And both had quarterback ratings decent. Let's see. Herbert went 26 of 35. Burrow went 24 of 40. And in fairness to Burrow, I still contend that that's a little bit of a rebuild. Cincinnati right now would be a playoff team. Chargers have a better roster than Cincinnati. They do right now currently. Chargers is probably going to go out and get a right tackle, an interior defensive lineman, but that's a real playoff roster.

Joe Burroughs doing a lot of pulling on this roster. They got some nice pieces, but yesterday they couldn't run the football. So a lot of it's Joe, you got to throw the ball 40 times. And that's a tough ask. He also really hurt his hand. Yes. I mean, what you're seeing with both these guys, they're not quite refined, polished products. Burroughs had more injuries.

They both make really bad throws. But both have a short memory. You know, they both come right back. I find them incredibly humbles the wrong word because they're both confident. But they're in. Well, I was going to say they have a youthful confidence about them. That's a good way to put it. They really believe in themselves.

Yes. And a lot of people have doubted them. And they just love to sit there and throw the football. No dink and dunk here. There's no dink and dunk. These boys want to throw it downtown, and I just loved watching it. So much fun. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, top of next hour, plus the new Notre Dame coach, Marcus Freeman.

How'd you like to be 35 years old coach Notre Dame? That's a go-getter. That's a one-percenter. Hour 2 on a Monday next. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. week my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with

their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick you here, unpack what went down and try to make sense of how we survived it with our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.

Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. It was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.

I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college. college football journey or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

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