The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Michael Jordan in a Bubble

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

C&R talk Mother's Day weekend & Michael Jordan! What exactly will he be doing for NBA on NBC telecasts next season? There's some Breaking NFL News that gets rich worked up. Plus, voice-over extraordinaire Jim Fagan may be dead, but AI is making sure that his voice is not!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, hey, hopefully I had a great Mother's Day weekend. Say, how do you mother for me? Yeah. Hey, moms and Milps and. All the moms of the Fox Sports Radio Nation. Hope you had a great one. Let's have a great week. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studio.

Hope you had a Pacers, Thunders, UFC 315, Navarrete, Madalena sort of weekend. And we be rocking out. Let's go. Love how you say, Thundus. With that little Pacers, Thunders. Little East Coast unnecessary plural in there. Yeah. Gabagoole is right.

So I hope you had a great weekend, guys. we got to talk about Michael Jordan, we got to talk about AI broadcasters, we got to talk about what people say on social media. Do you take their word for it? Or is it all BS? I want you to think about that now because we'll get into it later.

We obviously know that people brag a lot on social media. We often say, are you bragging or sharing? You're really just bragging, right? It's one big brag. 90% of the time. And we've learned that what we see isn't always real. But what about the stuff they're posting, the things that people say? Do you put any credibility into that?

I mean, social media is an extension of you, but is it? There's a story involving Antonio Brown and another one involving the Pope. Never thought I would have that sentence. Exactly. So we have lots to get to, including last one standing. We do it every Monday. We're going to do some trivia, your chance to win a CNR Swiggy with the Swaggy, our stainless steel water bottle. So giving away prizes, having fun. But first and first mostly, let's welcome Super Producer Danny G.

Hey, yike. What up? Danny G., who posted our best of the week on Saturday. Great job, Danny G. If you're listening pleasures, just search Covino & Rich. And there he is Javier Sam. Who-hoo. What's up with Sam?

How are you, buddy? I'm great. I'm great. And DB's got your update, spots on our videos at Covino and Rich. Let the Wild Rump is start. How is your Mother's Day weekend, man? It was a lot of, as most people could relate, a lot of kids sports. used the pool a lot this weekend.

It was weekend one. Kid sports and water sports? Of the pool. Just, ooh, dude, cannonballs and dives and I feel like I spent Saturday and Sunday. Belly flops.

You know, as you said, when you have kids by the pool, you just making sure you keep everyone alive. Yeah, that's your job as a parent. Don't do anything dumb kids. Don't go dying on me.

So, yeah, that was a good weekend. Happy Mother's Day. Hopefully, like you said, you enjoyed your MBA. Now, the NBA in the news on a Monday, and it has nothing really to do

with the playoffs. She would think, man, is it about how the Knicks might just give this series right back to the Celtics today? Is it about can the Warriors just hold on without Steph until he recovers? No, the story is about Michael Jordan and the story is about NBC. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read the story because I was like, what? Who? It just seems so weird. And that's really what we're asking.

What? Who? Where? Why? We're actually asking more of the why. Who? Now, I'm not complaining. Who?

The who is everybody knows. Who is Michael Jordan? Or as they're calling now, special contributor for NBA on NBC and Peacock starting next year, 2026. Special contributors is the most vague stuff. You could say that way they can figure it out later. Special contributor can mean one time he does a sit-down interview or special contributor can mean he's part of the weekly coverage or analysis. Right.

And that would be crazy because we don't know Michael Jordan on that. level. That was part of the reason why we loved them so much. There was so much mystique around the guy. Like you referenced earlier, Rich, on our Patreon show, yeah, we know how we felt about certain players like Kobe and, you know, LeBron.

He never gave LeBron really the love that I think LeBron wanted from him. We know how he feels here and there, but as far as game to game, day-to-day analysis, we never got that sort of insight from a Michael Jordan. So that's like a weird place to see him. And then you have to ask yourself, well,

He doesn't need the money, so why? There's something cool about his mystique. Now he's putting himself out there to be speculated upon, much like Tom Brady in the booth. You know, it's like, did Tom really need that? Well, there's life after sports or life after the field and on the court. My thinking is simply Michael Jordan. We saw the last dance during COVID. And what I think struck people was, oh, wow, he's a competitive maniac.

Yeah. Wow, Michael Jordan. We heard and we could assume, but we never heard those backstories. Like he's competing with the security guy. You heard the stories, but not like the full stories. And the whole joke of him looking at the iPad. I took that seriously. Michael Jordan, we learned a lot more about him through a documentary.

Because you're right, there is a mystique and a mystery, oddly enough, about the most popular sports icon of our lifetime. So the fact that he's going to be doing anything with coverage. We know Shaq and Barclay. They like to bust each other's chops. Just trying to step into my world. They make fun of each other, yet they mock the game now. And that's a little counterproductive.

I've always said it. Ernie. MJ trying to be like me. That whole crew is fantastic, right? Ernie, Kenny. Yeah, you got the broadcasting chops. Shaq and Charles. But what does a guy like Michael Jordan bring to the table,

which is where we open it up to you? What do you want to see? And by the way, Michael Jordan doing? Does he start cutting in like, the other old heads like the Barclays and shacks of the world where they're just dumping on these younger dudes. Because that might be a bad look too. That might be something we don't want to see from Michael Jordan. Or are you interested in his insight?

I am. But I don't know if that's what we're going to get. But is he now an interviewer? Like you referenced, that's possible. Counterproductive Camino of Michael Jordan just hops on NBC and starts talking about load management and soft players. Because that's what the league doesn't need. They don't need another veteran. Hall of Famer dumping on the league.

Yeah. So has Jordan become like the NBC cheerleader? Right, right, right. You know, really interesting stuff. Michael Jordan breaking news this morning. I was like, what? And then your mind thinks the worst. And then you read the little story and you're like, special contributor. What does that even mean? Contributor, okay. I can meet a wide variety of things. And he's a special guy. So he's special contributor coming next season for the NBA. A brand like his and a name like his can only help the league. But again, And I think the biggest question is why? Maybe.

You could, for only so many decades. I think he's just bored and that's it. Be like rich and awesome. Yeah. What if Michael Jordan's like, I could go take my private jet to play golf anywhere. You know, I could just sit back and watch my billions. Yeah, but in today's world, right?

Accumulate. When you're putting yourself out there and you're putting your opinions out there and it's a two-way street of social media, like he is setting himself up for extra criticism and back. and forth with these players and he may be exposed with his opinions and his thoughts where he never was before. And that's why he maintained the level of awesomeness in our minds is we didn't know all about Michael Jordan. Well, he does keep himself busy with NASCAR. He's a co-owner of a team. Slaying it there for me. He's there at the garage throughout the week. And then,

of course, on race days, he's there with the team. So he's kept himself competitive with that sport. So it would surprise me if he has a full-time role with. with NBC. Maybe if you remove yourself from something long enough, you could come back in with a fresh set of eyes. Maybe up until recently, Michael still feels like I'm too close to the game. I'm too connected.

I played with players that are still playing. I mean, that's ended a little while now, but still maybe that was sort of the vibe. Maybe now it's just time. Yeah, I'm curious to see what inspired him. Because here's the few factors. He can't be the money, right? You would assume.

Can't be. Between racing stuff and his branding stuff. Nike and everything else. Can't be the money that enticed him. So the why is most likely because he feels that he has something that we want to see,

some insight that is intriguing, interviewing skills that we never thought about, maybe. I mean, does he have something to say? Or just straight boredom like Rich said, the time is right. Like, he's just bored and his time to get back to what really defines Michael Jordan, which is basketball.

He said something a few minutes ago, to Danny. And it's a really interesting point that I think a big factor. What'd I say? He said, Michael Jordan has never lived in a world where what he says and does is open for a back and forth and a criticism. Michael Jordan did what he did.

Who's going to question him? A Chicago reporter? He never had a young player be like, man, Michael, shut up, man. He doesn't know what he's talking about. There's never been a world where Michael Jordan after a while had to answer it to anyone because the reporters all looked at him as like an icon. You know, he left, he won three in a row left, came back, won three in a row. And even when he was a wizard, there was a sense of like, he's doing it for like the good

of the league. Like, what a guy. By the way, he's so revered and he's so special, special contributor, Michael Jordan. To get criticism from Shaq and Barclay, it's expected at this point, right? We all know that Shaq and Barkley's not kissing anyone's ass. But imagine growing up idolizing Michael Jordan and now he's the guy, dumping on your game. It's going to sting a whole new way. What if Michael

takes a liking and throws, like, ridiculous props to someone in particular? Like an Anthony Edwards. Like it's an Edward. Or maybe he's like, you guys might not see it yet, but Michael Jordan here, when Benyama is going to win six or more like I did? He could very well throw some

heavy weight. Let me ask you, Rich, behind someone. As a broadcaster, has he found his new basketball, or is he going to be more of a baseball guy? Do you think he's to be great? Or you think he's going to be Yeah, I struggling a little bit. Or are we looking way too into it because special contributor means he's just doing some minor stuff? To me, this feels like NBC just trying to use his name.

Lean into the nostalgia of what they were known for when we were kids. Especially with the AI story we're going to get to and everything. That's what. And the John Tesh. Yeah, that's what I took away from it is that they want to flash us back and bring that feeling back. Everything with NBA and NBC. A marketing. It's just just a marketing move.

tickles the nostalgia huevos. It really does. Tickles your fancy? Yeah, but you don't get a Michael Jordan unless he wants to do it. Yeah, great move for the NBA. But there's got to be great incentive for this dude. He has too much to lose. I mean, we're getting the return of roundball rock,

which is maybe the best sports theme ever. You can play the SNO one. I want basketball. Let's do that one, Sam. Why not? That's a good one. It's all good. Maybe they lean into this one. These are the lyrics. A lot of people don't know about that.

So they bring it back round ball rock. What was your first reaction when you saw the breaking news? Michael Jordan, like shock? Like, oh, wow, or interest or why? Honestly, my first thought was why? Because again, he's a billionaire. His brand. He's chill.

He's doing what he wants. He could, you know, if Michael Jordan wants to buy a racing company or whatever he wants to do. Here's the thing. Here is what I thought, and I want to hear what DB thinks too. I thought to myself, Michael Jordan lived and played in a time where he got away with so much and yet we still loved them. Because we didn't know all the backstories, right? We didn't know. And he survived a world without social media.

So he just slid by. It's like our parents in a way. You know how they, dad never checked in. He was probably at the nudie bar. but he just grew up in that time and we loved him for it anyway. Dad got home late because he was at the nudie bar. Michael Jordan, we don't know what he was up to.

We don't know what he was thinking and he got away in a time where it didn't exist. And Michael Jordan is so big, Kavino, that I feel like we all, the collective us, think that Michael Jordan's probably too good for social media. Right. So why enter a world now where I don't know if he has the equipment to survive?

Like, does he have the social? media skills to combat with today's annoying person. Does he want to expose himself in this way? Set himself up for again media scrutiny of today. He got away with it. Scott Free back then. Now he's putting himself out there

to be exposed with anything he does or says, is that really worth it? And is there anyone that doesn't love Michael Jordan? He's so loved. It's a different world he's entering. That social media world is brutal. I don't hate Michael Jordan, but I definitely did not cheer for him in the Bulls in the 90s.

Of course. You know, like in that case, I don't think that there's any way that he is exposed in this scenario to get him to do this. They're not going to say, Michael, how do you think Pacer's calves sorts out? I just, I don't think that's not his. No, not analysis. It's not his wheelhouse. Yeah. So then what?

His first interview is with Chicago born the Pope. Michael sits down with the Pope. Michael sits down with, maybe it's like just, I don't know. thing. Special contributor is the story for NBA on NBC. This isn't Charles Barkley sitting on the desk of inside the NBA. People think that that's what. This is special contributor.

Not that. So everything is going to be packaged. Also, when you look at the last dance, it was so heavily slanted towards Jordan. Jordan had the last word and everything. And I think my opinion of why he's doing this is he still wants his last word.

We're at a point where LeBron's career is coming to an end. We are also at a where we're getting just further and further away from Michael Jordan's career as it is. And I think that he still wants that voice for his career and his generation and that final, you know, final word. He didn't do the last dance to have people tarnish his legacy. He did it to try to increase the legacy and show everybody what he was all about to a generation that wasn't familiar with what he accomplished.

I would have to think that that would be the reason why he does something like this. Yeah, and he has a team of brand people, I'm sure, that are steering. Yes, yes. Correct. Advice on what's great for the brand for the future. Yeah, that's a great point. There's going to be no, who do you think Brooklyn's going to take with the sixth pick? Like, that is not why you have Michael Jordan there at any point.

Unless he records a version of everything, and then they do a post game, and it looks like he just knows everything. Jordan's mock draft. Let's see who Mike liked. The Knicks are Celtics. Well, I tell you, I feel like game four, Celtics probably by six. Celtics by six. You're familiar with this in radio, Rich. People do this in radio

to make sure they have their butts covered for Monday. Yeah, maybe... Their version of Tony Romo. You can just call things before they happen. Exactly. Imagine he's just... Or maybe, you know, speaking of marketing and things like that,

in today's world, we've seen guys like Tom Brady, who's also a goat, pivot to a guy that we didn't really know a whole lot about, like, to a guy with a lot of personality to share. Like, we just started to learn,

about Tom Brady in the past few years like really know about the guy, right? Because he was under Belichick's wing and they kept business business. We didn't know about Tom Brady the guy. Maybe he's seen the good it's done for a guy like Tom Brady and he feels he has something to add. But not everybody's kind in this world

of social media man. And you said it, Rich. Michael Jordan's such a beloved hero of ours that it'd be interesting to see people hating on him because of a misstep he may have or something he says or his opinion. And that might not be the case at all. Perhaps Dan Byers

right. That's not what we're going to get from the situation. If I were Michael Jordan, I would go around telling people today that Nike's up 10% today, not because of the tariffs, but because of this announcement. Because I just looked at Nike stock and I'm like, man, oh, that's right, the tariff thing. But yes. You don't know, you don't think that's kind of part of it?

No. Because when I think Nike, I think Jordan. Nike's one of the top three brands that'll benefit from tariffs. To DB's point, if it's to protect his legacy and his era of basketball, bring back Ahmad Rashad and they could do like a throwback Thursday type thing we do where they do like you know the throwback throw jam

isn't that backwards marketing or would you say Jordan's the exception because you want to appeal to the younger guys. You do but in this age nowadays I mean my teenagers ask about Michael Jordan all the time and look at his YouTube clips and the ultimate and connecting generations. Yeah exactly. If Michael Jordan could bridge that gap of like father son

or mother daughter of mother's son watching a game and then like yeah Michael Jordan watch him he's sitting down and you know or do you think NBC through some money at him that he couldn't refuse. No, I don't think this. No, I don't think so either. Again, we're just asking the why. Maybe the timing's right. Like you said, like you said, Rich, people

get bored after a while. Maybe he's done golfing. With the style NBC's presenting how this looks like it's going to be, you know, a flashback to what they were famous for, then I feel like it's connecting the, it's a bridge, like you said. It's a bridge. Hey, and you may think we're

over speculating, guys. That's fine. But we've never really got to know Michael Jordan in that way, and he's probably the biggest icon. He is the biggest living sports icon, period. Is there another one? No doubt. You could say a soccer star for debate.

No way. Here in this country is Michael Jordan. No, I don't care. Soccer star or not. Messi. When you look at the numbers, dude, there's social media numbers are nuts. But then, you're talking about social media numbers. What they did an impact? Those are worldwide, worldwide impact. I'm not saying Jordan doesn't have that, but I'm

a billion dollar companies based on their silhouette on a shoe and branding clothing. That's up for debate. Again, I'm a Jordan guy myself, but I can't tell you if Ronaldo was worldwide more popular. I don't know. I would say it's debatable. I think here's where I want to go with this. Because there's another layer to the NBC coming back to the NBA coming back to NBC. And it has to do with a dead guy.

I'll explain coming up. But I do want to hear from you guys as far as what do you want to see Michael Jordan do? Forget what he's really going to do. What role? When you heard this announcement, what would you deep down inside? Would you want to see Michael do? Would you want to see Michael sit down and interview? No.

Yonnis or interview Anthony Edwards or some of the young players. I'd want to see him. I'd want to see his insight and true thoughts on the players in the game today. Would you want to see him goofing around at a round table? Or do you want to see him more of an analyst? Or interviews. Like I said, your thoughts. But right now we got some breaking NFL news.

Breaking news from Fox Sports. I know this tickles. Rich Davis is fancy, even though it's not 49ers related. We have more. What's that? You know where his fancy is? I'm not sure you want to tickle it.

We have more NFL schedule news. Are you ready? I'm ready. I knew they're going to leak. It's Wednesday, but I was like, they're going to leak everything in the next two days. Yep. Fox is having an announcement, which I'm about to tell you.

We found out earlier today, it's Cowboys and Eagles to start the season. Fox is chosen to tell America that on Saturday, December 20th, get ready for a doubleheader on Fox featuring the Philadelphia Eagles at the Washington commanders, followed by the Green Bay Packers, going down to Chicago to face the bears. Wow. And this is interesting. This is Saturday, December 20th. This is week 16.

This also runs up against the first round of the college football playoffs. for the three games on that Saturday. So Fox is saying, all right, college football playoff, bring it on. We're going to give you Eagles commanders, Packers, Bears on Saturday, December 20th. So we got two Eagles games announced it right. Yes, correct. So we know more about the Eagles than anybody so far. Yeah.

I mean, as of Wednesday, I imagine Dan will keep finding out little tidbits along the way. But Wednesday is the official schedule release. And every year the teams, their social media teams right now are probably trying to think of the most clever cool ways to release the schedule. I'll be honest. I love it. Every team comes up with the Eagles first two games are tough. The Cowboys and the commanders. Well, those are two division games. They're guaranteed to play

those teams twice. The commanders will be in December again, week 16, December 20th. We know that schedule watching tickles Rich's fancy. That's why we should have played this instead of breaking news. The Rich loves to look at the schedule game. We're watching. Yeah. I love it. So

I mean, we're going to find out all on Wednesday, and that's when guys could start planning, and women could start planning their little weekends away, their family trips, their bro weekends. So the schedule officially Wednesday, thank you, D.B., for that update. So you're right, Camino, we got two Eagles. They're divisional games, so they're expected, and they were obvious, but both in big spots, the opening game, and, of course, leading into Christmas week.

All right, a Saturday game to compete. That's the thing. Competing with the college playoff, you're going to have to have a match up, Washington, Philadelphia. All right, now coming up, what do you want Michael Jordan to be doing at NBC? And another layer of this, there's a promo for the NBA on NBC, and some people have a major problem with it, and it has to do with a guy. A guy and AI.

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Sounds like you, actually. Camron. Not Mike Cameron, your favorite Elfielder. You mean Sam, the guy that's playing the song? Jordan and Cameron. That's Sam. He's on the ones and twos. We got Danny G. Super producing. What's up?

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of all time. Do you know who they were? The Ripkins, the Kinseko twins. No, the Ripkins were. That's your all fantastic guesses. No. I said it with conviction, though. Brothers to each hit a home run on Mother's Day in 1942.

The DiMaggio's. Ooh. Dom and Joe, who I learned during a documentary that Joe DiMaggio, he did those Mr. Coffee commercials, and he had stopped drinking coffee. But he did it because the guy, bothered him so much. And over the weekend, they call him the

Martian Jason Dominguez. 22 years old for the New York Yankees, hit three home runs in one game. And he became the youngest player since Joe D. broke Joe D's record for the Yankees to hit more than two home runs in one game. So the DiMaggio's then in 2002, the

Giambis. The Giambinos. Jason and the late Jeremy. And Wilson and William Contreras did it yesterday. Oh, man. Yeah, that's sweet. Mama Contreras. Nice. So as we celebrated Mother's Day yesterday, I can't be the only guy that I wanted to give my wife a little downtime. Like, honey, just chill.

You know, you do so much with the kids. But no matter how much dad takes on, like, yo, kids, come with dad. We're going to go to Starbucks and get mom coffee. Hey, kids, let's go in the pool. They still, like, will run to mom and bother her throughout the day. It's just their instinct. They're instinct. Like, mom, wipe my butt.

Mom, I need chitos. Mom, I need this. No matter how bad you want to give her a foot massage, you always end up rubbing her cheeks. I know. It's just, yeah, moms never get a break. So, I mean, I couldn't be the only one that was like, we're going to give mom a break today. But within every hour, the kids bothered her about something. It's mom. You know, mom doesn't get a day off.

I'm sorry. Yeah, that it is. Love you, moms. Let's go to your phone calls about Michael Jordan. Yes, Michael Jordan. It's not a lazy LeBron Jordan debate. I promise you, it's not that. Jordan's going to be part of the NBA on NBC coverage as, what are they calling them again?

the special contributor. But again, I think Dan Byer hit the nail on the head because we're asking first and first mostly, why? Why? Bordom? Yeah, is it time? Why would Jordan want to do something like this? But we're expecting some sort of crazy analysis

and breakdown from Michael Jordan. That's what we would want. His opinions on the game today. And I doubt we're going to get that. And then we suggested, well, maybe he does like, quick little interviews. It's like, well, do you see him as a Bryant Gumble type? I don't see that. I don't see him as that role. And then Dan Byer off the year said, it's probably just going to be some overly produced little segment on Jordan's advice. I told you, throwback packages.

Yeah, overly produced where you can't really. Big picture stuff. Brand him in a negative light. Yeah, it's very, it's like low risk stuff. Low risk stuff. Yeah. I think that's probably, it. And it's so disappointing because, yeah, we'd want so much more from that. It'd be weird to see. I know. I'll give you the best analogy. I remembered it. During the break, I said to Dan Byer, there was recently something with a lot of promise and you're like, that's it? Didn't they say Mariah Carey was going to sing all I want for Christmas is you before one of the NFL games during the holidays? And they kicked it to a pre-done video of her in a studio doing it.

And I'm like, I thought she was going to be like on the field or something. So don't get your hopes up as well, I'll say. Yeah, they're just sort of bending the truth here for the headlines. Like, yeah, he's involved, but barely. Let's say hi to Tony and Virginia. What's up, Tom? What's up, buddy? I think it would be so cool if he was a sideline reporter.

Now, it'll never happen, but they'd line up for the halftime interviews, walking off the court. Yeah, like no one would give MJ the cold shoulder. It just wouldn't be, it wouldn't happen. How would our boy, uh, George Sedano feel about this? That's a good question. I like George. Can you imagine? You're going to take away.

See, that's the thing. These NBA guys come and they take over the, all the broadcasting games. They took all the layman's jobs. What about actual broadcasters? Can you imagine, though, MJ in like some oversized, like, bill. What's the word billis? What's the, billowy suit? And he's on the sideline, the microphone.

He'd look out of place. But you know, it's interesting. Kavino brought up a good point. The last time we saw Jordan suited up was like in those nice oversized 1990 suits. He comes out. Is he, like, all tapered now? In a David Byrne. Comes out like.

Carmelo? Yeah. No, oversized 90s suit. Carmelo at the draft. With the shoulder pads and everything. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I've seen MJ in like a nice fitted current day suit. Georgia T. You're on with Kavito and Rich.

What's up, buddy? B&R. What's up, fellas? What's out, Danny G. Shout out, Spotty on the video. Shout out Big Apple, if you know, you know. I have a couple of things on Jordan. I agree with Danny G about it being, I don't want.

It might say like a crazy take. I don't want it. I want to keep the mystique alive. I want to, as much as, and I'm not a, I'm not a, I wasn't born in, I wasn't born early enough to see him do his thing. But I saw the last dance. And it was one of those things where when you saw it during the time that you saw it, it was still during the run where the Lakers were still like, people were like, oh, man, LeBron's still doing something, something. So again, competition, mystique. Do we need more stories from Jordan?

again, we've gone through the whole gambling incident, his golfing, his other stuff. I'm not saying it's not bad or you can't tell different iterations of it. I'm saying, just like Tom Brady being the greatest football player of all times and not doing well in, like, broadcasting, is one of those things where you can be great at something, but, you know, you only can be great at that one something. Yeah, I mean, Jordan's proven that he's not the best owner and management, right? I mean, that didn't work out well, but they will not expose it. Maybe we misread the story. Maybe it's Belichick's Jordan that's doing this for the NBA.

Maybe it's that Jordan. Or maybe they have a show, Jordan and Jordan. I'm here on the sidelines. I'm here with Michael Jordan, and we're interviewing Janus. Who are you? Exactly. Maybe we misread it. Oh, you want to say hi to someone real good?

Then we'll go to Dan Byer. Mr. But, remember the guy you used to see at the clothing store? No way. The guy that would come in. last minute? What up, Mr. Butt? Yeah. I can't believe he used to make fun of my big-ass medical condition. Well, you would always show up when the store was

closing in five minutes. Yeah. All these years. I reached back, I reached back, I reached back to grab my wallet over my shoulder and my butt's so big now. Thank you. If you don't know who Mr. Butt is, go back

to last Thursday's podcast. Yeah, we talked about people that came in as the restaurant was closing or as the store was closing. There was always a guy named Mr. Butt who would try on jeans and stuff. And I'd be like ready to leave the store. Like come on with this guy. He'd tear them too with his big butt. It was crazy. And it's even crazier to hear from him after all these years. Mr. But, thank you.

All right. Let's go to your palinar. Dan Byer for an update. DB, what's going on, buddy? Guys, get some NFL stuff to you in just a sec. But since we are talking hoops for the first time in his career, Bucks forward, Yonis and Tedocumpo may be open to options outside of Milwaukee. report from ESPN says Janice Randolph being open-minded was the phrase that was used about where his best long-term spot is, whether it be in Milwaukee or with another team. But the 30-year-old in Tedocumpo apparently mulling those decisions.

ESPN also reports that Cavaliers Guard, Donovan Mitchell, is expected to be a game time decision for tomorrow's game five against the Pacers because of his ankle injury. Pacers up 3-1 in the best of seven series. Game four, Celtics and Nick, 7.30 Eastern. Timberwolves and Warriors play at 10 Eastern time tonight. Prior to all of that at 7 Eastern, the NBA draft lottery takes place. The Utah Jazz, Washington Wizards and Charlotte Hornets, each have a 14% chance of getting the number one overall pick. That's the best of any team in the lottery.

Capitals and Hurricanes skate in game 4, 7 Eastern Golden Knights and Oilers 930 Eastern time. Rain today watched out the practice rounds for the PGA Championship in Charlotte at Quill Hollow. Philadelphia Eagles will open defense of their Super Bowl title hosting the Cowboys in the kickoff game starting the 2025 NFL regular season. That'll be on Thursday, September 4th. Within this past hour, we found out that a Fox double header will take place in week 16. That Saturday, December 20th, Eagles at Commanders will be game one on Fox, followed by the Packers and Bears. And to take it a step further, some good points on social media, guys, with the NFL having that triple header on Christmas Day, this allows those teams that would play on Saturday.

An extra day of rest if you were to play on Thursday, December 25th. So we may see any mixture of Eagles, commanders, Packers, Bears playing on Christmas Day. That makes sense. Yes, yes it does. It's all unfolding, D.B. Back to you guys. The three teams are the best odds again. Utah Jazz.

Washington Wizards and Charlotte Hornets. A guy like Cooper flag is. Remember the last time there was a hype of like Zion and everyone's like, ooh, I hope the Knicks at the time picket. And he went to New Orleans. Or any of those three teams like tickle? We keep using the phrase tickle your fancy today. Any of those seem like a good fit?

So when Victor Wenbinoa went number one overall and the Spurs won the lottery, a lot of people thought it was rigged because they didn't want another team to ruin Wembenyama. Yeah. And they felt that he was safe with the Spurs. That's how I felt as well. Yeah. Of those three organizations, Utah with Danny Am,

there. Will Hardiest just signed a contract extension? I think that people are thinking that Utah could come up number one with that pick. Utah would be my instinct was that too. I feel like Charlotte's just never, it's never worked. Yeah. Yeah. There's some of the think that maybe Cooper Flagg wouldn't be

a star in Utah, but I disagree. Well, I appreciate Dan Byer's opinion, but you know whose opinion I really want? Michael Jordan. Mike, what do you got to say? What is Mr. Butto say about this stuff? Stop it. Yeah, that's a good one. Now coming up, there's layer two.

I just want to go over this quick. There's layer two of the NBA going to NBC and we'll get to that coming up. It has to do with a guy that's no longer alive. Yeah, what is that about? We'll get to that. Plus, last one standing. Danny G. has prepared another great nerve-wracking round of our favorite game. So we'll do that. Give away some

prizes. All coming up right here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.

So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.

But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Lever,

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The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis, and I know firsthand because I competed there myself. I'm Renee Stubbs. And on the Renee Stubbs Tennis podcast, I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris. Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay. Jen she went. I mean, she went down to three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted. She's an outsider to win the French for me.

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Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. It's Kavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back. We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. And now it's time for our Tyraq play of the day. Pacers Cavs game got heated yesterday. You bring up a very valid point there. The momentum is all in Indiana's favor. What Matherin did there is simply unacceptable and inexcusable. It just doesn't make any sense.

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He's done. He didn't say that Matherin was ejected. He didn't add on that part, but that's the rule. And it looks like Jost is walking him out of the arena as we speak. You're out of there. An ejection. Paces went on, obviously, to take. at commanding 3-1 lead over the number one-seat calves, obviously without Donovan Mitchell.

That's courtesy of the Pacers Radio Network, and that is our Tyre Rack Play O'D the Day. Big win for the Pacers 129-109. And for over 40 years, Tyraq has been helping customers find the right tires for how, what, and where they drive. Ship fast and free back by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation. Tyraq.com, a tire buying should be. Now, again, we're Covino and Rich. At Covino & Rich, 87799 on Fox. The N.EG says we have another call about Jordan.

Is it Belichick's Jordan or Michael Jordan? Michael Jordan. Hey, what's up, buddy? Greg in Connecticut. What's up, Greg? Just thinking, I don't understand exactly what Jordan's going to be doing, but it started making me think about disastrous on air. And he did his interview.

He's dragging me. I want to kiss you. You know what, though, man? Maybe this is the new blue one. issue. Okay, when you think of the goats, right, Tom Brady, he's broadcasting now. He put fear aside and ridicule and criticism aside. He put his image and legacy aside and said, you know what? I want people to know more about who Tom Brady is and I'm going to take this chance and greatness comes with a risk. I'm going to go out there and do my thing. Tom Brady didn't have to do all this stuff and he did. Who else? Derek Jeter's now an analyst. The thing is you put yourself out there for criticism. We're not used to seeing Michael Jordan in that vulnerable situation. Is that way? he's going to do or not. They're saying special contributor. We don't know. All say. It's the first time we're going to see Michael Jordan, in my opinion,

not in a bubble of some protection or where we're all like, oh, MJ, MJ. Unless there's some overproduced overhyped nonsense. Which it probably will be. But there's one of the note on the NBA on NBC and then we're going to get to some NFL, some schedule stuff. We're going to play a game. But they

had a promo for the NBA going to NBC. And I want you to take a listen to the voice in the promo. Listen. The NBA on NBC is back. See you this October for the NBA season tip off. Whoa. Now, that sounded really nostalgic, right?

Because the voice there is a gentleman by the name of Jim Fagan, big-time voiceover guy. Unfortunately, he is no longer with us. What? They are using AI to put that together. And that is now a prime example of when, you know, there's strikes and, you know, there's strikes and media tries to figure out who gets the rights to someone's voice when they're gone. Because we've never really seen it, but to me that hits your nostalgia bone a little bit. It's kind of like perhaps tickles it, Sam?

Yeah, well, you get off that? And they are going to use his voice for the upcoming season. That's insane. We said the one redeeming benefit of the fight two weeks ago, Fatal Fury, Garcia, Tiafimo, Haney, that card in Times Square. one of the redeeming benefits was the nostalgic comfort food known as Jim Lampley's voice. But he's still with us. He's still with. That's what I'm saying, though.

But there's something to be said about, yeah, that voice is familiar with us and we like the nostalgia and the feel of it. They're just leaning into it in a different way. You know, respectfully, let me throw this out there. I don't think there's a baseball fan on planet Earth that doesn't admire the legacy and the greatness of Vin Scully. He's broadcasted long enough that if they really wanted to, there will be in the future, if not already, a way where they could probably have him call game. Is that fair? Do we want that?

Give you directions on your Google Maps? But Vince Scully could probably, with the database of every word he said in his life, they could do it. Should they? Would they? Is it wrong or awesome? And is this just step one? Your thoughts at Covino-Ritch and 8799 on Fox? I think it's wrong. And I'll explain why.

Yeah, using the voice of Jim Fagan for the NBA. More next. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?

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