The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - More drama for the Jets

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

Colin discusses another issue facing the Jets as they begin their training camp and why it once again looks like this team is not set up for Super Bowl contention  Taking a look at the third best player on the best NBA teams It's time to be realistic about the Dallas Cowboys   Guest: Paul Pierce See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, speaking of Jets, Hassan Reddick, who's, they got from Philadelphia. Defensive end, good player, veteran, kind of expensive. It's official. He's not showing up to camp. When they made this trade for a third round pick, they didn't have this part figured out. They didn't give them a new deal? What's going on here? It's July

23rd. I'll repeat, it's July 23rd. Camps are open now. Aaron Rogers has already missed a mandatory minicamp. Hassan Reddick's a no-show. There's been a story leak that Arthur Smith was going to get hired to babysit their offensive play caller Nat Hackett. And oh,

by the way, in March, Woody Johnson and Robert Sala at the NFL meetings apparently got awkward and uncomfortable and shouting at each other. But yeah, they're going to win the Super Bowl. Okay. Last season's top sack leader, Bryce Huff. Oh, yeah, he's in Philadelphia, too.

There are two ways and no fan, even in New York, even a Jets fan, would acknowledge this is a dysfunctional franchise. That's not arguable. Put down the pom-poms, that's not arguable. The two ways to right the ship with a dysfunctional franchise are nail the head coach and get a rising star at quarterback that you don't have to pay so you can build around him.

That's what the Rams did with McMahon Gough. The Texans are doing with C.J. Stroud and Demico Ryan's. That's what the Bills did with Sean McDermott, Josh Allen, or the Bengals with Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow. Miami actually did it with Mike McDaniel and Tua still in a rookie contract. So you can go buy great players. Defense events, rush ends, corners, Tyreek Hill. That's how you write the ship when you have a dysfunctional franchise. Hit on a rising star at quarterback that hopefully you don't have to pay for four or five years and get the head coach right.

So what are the Jets? a 40-year-old quarterback off a major surgery that's expensive, and they had to give up excellent picks to get, and a head coach that's lost two of his three games he's coached in the NFL. Oh, yeah, an impulsive owner. This idea that the Jets are a Super Bowl team, eight, nine tops, we've already got Hassan Reddick drama, Nat Hackett drama, Aaron Rogers' drama. It's July 23rd. Listen, you can go and give up big-time money like the Rams did to get Matt Stafford.

But you had, let's be honest, the richest owner and maybe probably the best young coach in the sport. So you can take a swing on an older quarterback, but he's got to be great. And Matt Stafford still was when they got it. If you go to Aaron Rogers last 13 games in Green Bay, he was 5 and 8. Stafford to the Rams was a better quarterback than what the Jets got with Aaron Rogers, who's not as committed as Stafford, Mahomes, Alan, Brady, or Lamar at this point in his career. So basically the Jets, they're just putting a fresh cone of paint on the same old issues. Crazy owner, not sure if they had the right coach and quarterback drumming.

That's all this is. And the sports media, which tends to fall in love with coastal big market teams, loves the Jets. This is an eight-win team. 40-year-old quarterback, coach, we're not sure as a head coach, was a really good coordinator. That's what they are. In fact, I'd argue Robert Sala wasn't even the best defensive coordinator of the Niners had. D'Amico Rion's was better, and I'm not anti-Sala. I think he's built a good culture.

think he coaches with passion. I think his teams play hard. But this idea with Hassan Reddick now not showing up that anything has changed here, it's just a fresh coat of paint on all the same old issues. So if you watched any of the USA Germany game yesterday, it is remarkable that LeBron's this good now, best player on the team. But what's discouraging if you're a Laker fan is the two best players on the team are both Lakers. If you look after all these five exhibitions at the key statistical categories, LeBron and Anthony Davis lead in all of them, points, assists, rebounds, blocks, and field goal percentage.

They lead in all of them. They are clearly the two best players on this team. So LeBron and AD, clutch sports, Rich Paul, got. bottom to join in L.A. And they have more than delivered. But the rest of the roster is random, forgettable guys and one kid undrafted who everybody likes but is limited Austin Reeves. If you start going around to the top teams in the NBA and looking at their third best

player, again, the Lakers is Austin Reeves. The Celtics have four guys on this Olympic team and that doesn't include Jalen Brown. Who's the Sixers third best player? player, Perennial All-Star Paul George, or 26 points a game, Tyrese Maxie. Oklahoma City's third best player, Jalen Williams, an elite defender who averages 19 a game and shoots 43% beyond the arc. Who's Denver's third best player?

High school prodigy, Michael Porter, 610, excellent defender, 17 and 7, and a good three-point shooter. if you look over the last five and six years at the championship teams in the NBA, it's not just been their stars, it's been their depth. The Celtics depth, what is Derek White, their fourth or fifth best player, Denver's depth, KCP, was their fifth or six best player, Milwaukee, pre-dame, warriors. When Wiggins, when Andrew Wiggins, a cast-off from Minnesota, had a huge final. The Lakers are LeBron and AD, a guy everybody likes, undrafted Austin Reeves, and forgettable, random guys with some length. That's what this Olympics is to me.

Man, have the Lakers mismanage this roster? It's almost like Rob Polink and the guys upstairs went to the grocery store, and they got steak and lobster tail, but they've got four kids at home with Mow's to feed, and by the second night, they don't have any more groceries. They can't afford them. The Westbrook deal was an abject disaster. LeBron apparently wanted that, but he's not going to take the hit. And again, LeBron and AD, I got no complaints. AD early in Los Angeles, I thought was soft. Not anymore.

He's a rugged, physical, dominant defender and has looked great in these Olympics. But LeBron's career, and you're seeing it still at 39 years old, he elevates everybody. So what does it tell you about the Lakers roster? When LeBron James, I mean, J.R. Smith, the league was over him. Matthew Delavadova in a finals. Shane Badiye got really good, really fast. Old Udana's Haslam. LeBron elevates everybody.

And that said, the third best player for the Lakers is an undrafted guard who averages about 15 a game. This roster in L.A. is worse than you think. If LeBron can't win a playoff series and is struggling now in the last two years to win a game in the playoff series,

the Olympic thing if you're a Laker fan is discouraging. It's great for the Olympic team. It's discouraging if you're a Laker fan. All right. So I saw something yesterday and you know,

fan is short for fanatic. And when we had COVID, and there were no fans in the stands or limited fans in the stands, TV just didn't, it didn't look as good, it didn't feel as good. I mean, you could do the fake stuff in the bubble in Orlando in the NBA, but I'm sorry, you could change the camera angles. Fans matter. They are the juice.

They are the B-12 shot to sports. But because of that fandom, they're not always terribly objective. Until this survey, that is jaw-droppingly realistic from one of the biggest sports fan bases in America. I can't believe. I mean, in politics, nobody can look in the mirror. Either side, ours or D's. They can't look in the mirror. The Dallas Cowboys fan base is officially the most honest fan base in America, and I couldn't believe their answers to this survey.

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And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.

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Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flanks. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021. And I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager.

And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So the Athletic did a survey with Dallas Cowboy fans.

Dallas Cowboy fans. And the results are in. And generally, and we get this, fans have blinders on. College pro, it doesn't matter. East, west, north, south, middle of the country. It doesn't matter. Bad teams, you know, see the most optimistic, hopeful outcome. I get it.

That's what's great about fans. But cowboy fans have been beaten down for so long, I would argue, they are now currently more realistic than their owners. Listen to this. They were asked if one of these three players could still be on the Cowboys three years from now,

who would it be? Dak, Micah or C.D. Lam? Runaway winner was Micah Parsons. Second, easily was C.D. Lamb. Dack third. In my opinion, that should be the order. The second question.

What grade would you give the Cowboys for this offseason? Almost 40% of Cowboy fans said a D. That would be the right answer. The next question. Who is the Cowboys' most overrated player? In a landslide, Dak Prescott. Nobody really close.

That, in my opinion, is the right answer. And finally, there's one more here. Will the Cowboys be in the Super Bowl the next five years? That's quite a tarmac. That's quite a runway. 78.8% said, No, we know who the owner is. When you're young and innocent, you believe in everything.

The tooth fairy, magic, Santa. And then life humbles you. And the reality of your personal limitations set in. Right now, cowboy fans, again, are more realistic than their owners. That's what this is. team is. An elite pass rusher. Cowboys deserve credit for drafting him. An elite wide receiver, better than I thought he would be as a pro, C.D. Lamb, the Cowboys deserve credit for drafting him. And a quarterback that if they do pay him, will pay him like Patrick Mahomes, and he's much

closer to Kirk Cousins. And Cowboy fans, even in the question, will you win a Super Bowl in the next five years. Not one or two, five. 80% or close to it said no. Optimism and hope have been flushed out realistically by grief and reality. Tip of the sad cap to Dallas Cowboy fans officially. The most realistic fans in America. I'm not sure what you get for that, but it's something. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

I don't know if this is an unrealistic fan base or not, but the Chicago Bears are back in the news, Colin, because Caleb Williams is here for his first NFL training camp. He's been putting in time, obviously, in the offseason. Offensive coordinator Shane Waldron spoke about how impressed he is with Caleb's growth away from the team. Caleb did a great job, you know, and in OTAs and in that portion of the rookie segment. at the end and then showing up back here at training camp a step ahead of where he left so shows it

he did a great job during his time away from the building uh you know owning the offense understanding different calls and able to come out here and these first two practices and operate at a much higher level than what we left it and we know it's not where where the final product is but every day we see these incremental improvements leading up to that first game that's our main goal on offense very exciting time Chicago's turning around. I just saw this morning. The two families in Chicago, one of them, the Reinsdorf family,

are proposing a $7 billion upgrade to the United Center, putting in all sorts of housing, entertainment. You do know I bought Bulls, Black Hawk season tickets. So Caleb Williams is going to change the projection

of the end direction of the bears for the next decade. We think. We don't know. Well, we're pretty good on the know. I would say it's... Well, I mean, we thought that about Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville. Here we are, what, four years in? What's he done? I mean, that franchise was almost shipped off the Dusseldorf two years ago.

You might as well ship the bears to Outer Mongolia at this point. What have they done recently? What have the Bears done? They've got a Super Bowl and a rich tradition. What, in 1985? Long. It doesn't even qualify for your 70s trivia. I mean, that's how long ago it was.

Like, come on. Listen, I'm with you. I think the Bears. Bears are going to be good. Sorry. I think the bears are going to be good. The potentials there. You know what they're really going to be for the first time in a long time? Interesting.

Well, offensively, fascinating. I couldn't tell you the last time I care. I mean, you go look at their best offenses ever. Jay Cutler, Alshot, Jeffrey. Like, this team is like, oh, this is going to be one of the most interesting watches in the league offensively. So you think that, and we will hope for that. They just had, we just showed a clip of Shane Waldron speaking. You remember what he was like as an OC in Seattle?

with Russell Wilson. It was not good. Russell Wilson requested Shane Waldron. And then it didn't really work out now. We could say that was Russ and he was near the end, but it was not dynamic or interesting. And that's the biggest thing for me, Caleb Williams. Didn't Shane Waldron have one year with Gino Smith?

That seemed to turn around his career. He might have. Gino's real turnaround was last year, though, right? No, the year before. Was that two years ago? It was pretty brilliant. Look at your optimistic Colin. Yeah, glass half a little.

I look how you put on your cape anytime at Chicago. defend Chicago. Well, I just, I see the truth. New basketball facility, Caleb Williams in town. It's a sunny day in Chicago. Even the winners are going to be mild from this point forward. Miles.

Next door is the Miami Dolphins. They still need to lock Tua into a long-term extension. According to Adam Schaefter, the dolphins have made it clear that Tua is their guy. But the two sides are still working out the money in the deal. Boy, these deals take a while, huh? It's been like five months of working out the money. Sheffter also noted that Tua is not as close to his new contract as Jordan Love is with the Packers.

I'll tell you this, Colin, if my new deal with Fox or whatever takes as his TWA deal, I'm going to be extremely disappointed. The season ended in January. It's July. He doesn't have a new deal? What's working out the money over six months? Action's not words, Colin. You know that. This is not a good sign for Tua.

It can't be. Well, I think this stuff is. really hard. I think quarterbacks, because it's the highest paid player on the team, I think it's hard. I think even when you like a quarterback, I mean, good God, they've already redone the Holmes deal twice. I mean, all this stuff is incredibly difficult. Oh yeah, good front office actually gets something done. Imagine how that works. Miami, a front office is a mixed bag, some good stuff. Some good stuff. I mean, they did hire Mike McDaniel. They deserve a lot of credit. That was a big W for them.

You got to give, I will say this with the dolphins, and this is where they deserve absolute credit. This was a Brian Flores, angry, defensive vibe, and they went light, fun, progressive offense, and I mean, they flipped the switch. Tua is a bench warmer, to Tua's a star. Miami, and that's hard. Teams struggled to do this. Miami literally said, and Flores was not a disaster. He turned the franchise around. They were awful when he got there, and very quickly, by about week eight, first year, you're like, wow.

And, I mean, special teams in defense were elite. And they're like, no, no, no, we're going to flip this thing. Tua looked like a whiff. And they flipped to an offensive franchise virtually overnight. And it's been a lot of wins since. We've got to give them credit for that. Correction, regular season. Okay.

We haven't seen the playoff success. Tua had a damn good year. I'll say this. And, you know, Mike McDaniel is a little under the radar, right? because he hasn't had the playoff success. But in terms of interesting, if you're like Jay, give me three coaches in the NFL. If you could have dinner and three guests,

Mike McDaniel's definitely one of the three coaches. I think he's a fascinating guy. Yale educated, kind of nerdy. How are these big, hulking NFL players listening to scurly little Mike McDaniel? I'm fascinated by this guy. I'm a little jealous that the Jets didn't get him. But I think he's a great, great coach.

Yeah, I think what Mike McDaniel is, he's good for the dolphins, and he's really fun for the league. You know, it's, you forget, but in the 70s and 80s, Miami was a huge brand in this country. And it was, there were dolphin bars all over cities like Seattle and Denver and Don Shula won for 30 years and Dan Marino. People forget that. Miami was a massive brand. Now it's a heat city. But it used to be a hurricane city and a dolphin city before Pat Riley got there.

And so Miami is, it's also, Miami's also been just a different market. It's the warmest winter market, the aqua water. It's got a rich history. They're like the Warriors. You forget how good the Warriors were in the 70s, so people forgot about them. And then the minute they're good, that you can't get a ticket, it's the highest price seat in the league.

Miami in the 70s and 80s was one of the top two or three franchises forever. I wasn't born, but the Golden State Warriors were good in the 70s? They were great. Wow. Who'd they have? Rick Barry. Al Adels. Clifford Ray.

Jeff Mullins. Keith Wilkes. You guys like how I did that, right? I just wedged in more 70s sports. More Cowherd really cooks. I mentioned 70s. The light just goes off and you're just on fire. Final story is, ah, yes, the New England Patriots.

They got Drake May with hopes that he'll be their quarterback of the future. But oh my gosh, Colin, he's not ready for the starting job yet. Listen to what Gerard Mayo confirmed that Jacoby Brissette is QB1. Listen to this. Coming out of the spring, I don't think there's any doubt. Kobe is the starting quarterback at this point in time. I mean, we can look at these other quarterbacks on the roster. At the same time, like, it's going to be, it's about competition.

And so when we get out on the field this summer with the pads on, we'll see how it all plays out. But, you know, coming out of the spring, I mean, I think it's clear that Jacoby is the most pro-ready guy we have and play a lot of football. Yeah, I think that's what we thought he was. That's not a breaking story. I think we all knew it was Jacoby Brissette. And if Drake May grows by Thanksgiving, he may get a start. But again, we've got to be honest about this. Mahomes didn't start until week 17.

Totally different story. They were a good team. They had Alex Smith, the former number one pick as their quarterback. They were a playoff team. Listen, man, this is a horrendous decision. What's a horrendous decision? Jacoby percent, the 31-year-old journeyman backup? Is a top five backup in the league.

Exactly. That's right. By the way, why put your young guy out there who's not a refined quarterback? We looked, realistic people knew two things, that of all these quarterbacks, Bo Nicks, Caleb Williams, Bo Nicks because of his starts, Pennix because of his talents, Caleb Williams because of his talent, and Jaden Williams, Jaden Daniels, because of both, were ready to play pretty early. And everybody knew that J.J. McCarthy and Drake May are not.

ready to start. That's a given. Sam Darnold and Jacoby Brissette should start this year. Now, if you get past Thanksgiving, your team's bad and you're like, we're going to give the kid a couple of late season starts. But Drake made, footwork, accuracy, he's not ready to start. And J.J. McCarthy, despite all these draft experts, this idea that everybody was moving up the board again, and not a single GM told me that. J.J. is a backup for a year. He's a prospect. So when the Patriots are 1 and 8 and everybody's starting to quit and the injuries

are mounting, let's shove in Drake May, future of our friends, let's put him out there. That is, I totally just mean. No, no. When they're 1 in 8 at the trade deadline, 1 in 7, you trade off any piece to get more draft picks. Let Jacoby deal with that, the mature veteran.

And then next year, you load up on offensive pieces, cap space, and Drake May with a year under his belt is ready to roll. You go into camp saying, you know, you get, I mean, you have 11 draft picks, you got tons of money to spend, you go get a Brandon Iyuk, you go get an elite left tackle. This is not the end of the world. I don't think you let Drake May sniff it till after Thanksgiving and maybe give him one last season start to let him get his feet wet. So I'd like to get a list of guys who probably weren't ready but trotted out there and were terrible, okay?

I know Jared Goff started his career horribly. Remember Jeff Fisher? He was like 0 and 7. Everybody's saying bus, bus, bus. Terakoff turned out okay. And there was one other quarterback who Eli Manning, remember him? Well, he was Terra God awful. Sorry. He was just horrendous with the Giants.

And he turned out okay. You've got to just shove guys out there. They've got to get up to the speed. I think he's a bad decision by the Patriots. I think Mays probably the NFL are even out of that. Well, I think the quarterbacks you're mentioning, like Joe Burrow was ready to start. Lamar Jackson...

I didn't mention Joe Burrow. I mean, most of the young quarterbacks, you could say, well, Josh Allen. Josh Allen physically was an elite top 10 athlete in the league as a rookie. He wasn't a top 10 quarterback, but he was 6-6-255 and jumping over linebackers. But even the way Mayo's talking about this,

we can look at these other quarterbacks on the roster. What the hell? These other? You guys just drafted Drake made top five. He's the future of the franchise. The dismissive tone, I don't like anything about Mayo. I can't wait to bet against these frauds the Patriots this year.

My gosh, this team is so bad. All right. J-MAC with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. You are fired up today, pal. I'll tell you that.

So, regional radio host, Paul Feimbaum, floated the idea that Dion Sanders as a potential Lincoln Riley replacement at USC. Okay. Did we not learn anything from Brian Kelly at Notre Dame or Jim Harbaught, Michigan? It takes a while. Even Davosweeney at Clemson took like three or four years. It takes a while. People forget that Nick Sabin's first year at Alabama, the best college football coach ever,

his first year, he lost to like, look it up. It's like something Louisiana Monroe or something at home. second year he got rolled by Utah in a bowl game in Atlanta. It was the third year for the greatest coach ever, Nick Saban, at a football power Alabama. Lincoln Riley averaged 11 wins at Oklahoma. Every year, 11 wins, 5 years, 11 wins. His replacement, the program had absolute momentum. It's a great program.

His replacement has averaged eight wins. This year, they're over under a seven, seven and a half. They're picked for eight in the SEC. The coach before Lincoln Riley at USC was not a Lincoln Riley level coach. He was a disaster. He got no Power 5 offers, and he averaged six wins. Lincoln Riley in two years has won 11 and 8. and what Lincoln Riley took over,

he's almost doubled the win total on average. The coach before him average six, he's up to about nine and a half. Yeah. So Lincoln's replacement is winning just 60% of his games, and he got momentum from Lincoln. Lincoln had to totally rebuild the roster, had zero elite NFL players,

it took USC and they're still not there a couple of years to get their NIL right in a city with multiple pro sports teams where it takes longer to rebuild because it's a very distracted market with a lot of pro stuff beaches mountains and proximity to like Vegas there's a lot going on here have we not learned anything from Davo Sweeney Jim Harbaugh, Brian Kelly rebuilds are hard even with an accelerated transfer portal and NIL. It's hard. People just don't understand how bad USC was when Lincoln Riley took it over. I'll give you a story. I've got a little bit of access to USC. The previous coach was not a good recruiter and was even worse at developing players. When Lincoln Riley got to USC, his staff earmarked what they believed to be

only 35 players good enough to be at USC. 35 in a world of 85 scholarships, less than half the roster. In two years, Lincoln Riley, for the first time in USC history, and they've had legendary coaches, have averaged over 40 points a game offensively, have led the nation in offense back-to-back years. He hasn't just fixed the offense, it's been a rocket ship. they've recruited it well. Defense, not so much.

But again, that's not Lincoln's side of the ball. Oklahoma has a defensive coach. Their defense is an elite. At least Lincoln got on the right side of the ball right. So take a deep breath. Lincoln's going to be okay. Their schedule actually first year in the Big Ten, they got a little bit of a break.

They don't have to face the best team Ohio State. The second best team, in my opinion, Oregon, they have one kind of dicey road game with weather. Washington in the first week of November, it'll be raining. Michigan's in a total rebuild. Their toughest game is LSU, but their defense was bad last year, and they just lost a great quarterback. USC should be competitive, albeit they'll probably lose to LSU. Lincoln's going nowhere. unless he chooses to go somewhere.

The recruiting on the defensive side been a bit disappointing. They finally have their NIL collective right. It's not Oregon, but in the Big Ten, it's top two or three. That will be competitive. And no, Dion Sanders is not going to be USC's football coach. By the way, the next quarterback is Miller Moss, who threw for six touchdown passes, 380 yards, and completed 70% of his throws in his one start last year.

So it looks like once again, Lincoln Riley has a quarterback and will develop him into an NFL level player. I told you to take a deep breath with Brian Kelly at Notre Dame and at LSU. Take a deep breath with Jim Harbaugh. Stuff takes time. It'll be okay. Coming up next, Paul Pierce stops by. What does it say when LeBron's,

and AD are easily the two best players in the Olympics. And what do we make of this team that needs 39-year-old LeBron to save them against South Sudan and Germany? The hell is going on. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, we're Kavino and Rich. Fox Sports Radio every day, 5 to 7 p.m. Eastern. But here's the thing.

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It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano and our podcast, PointG game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game.

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He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody!

Please! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian. And recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike!

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This is Help from a Hypocrat, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrat as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, he's a basketball Hall of Famer, 20th all-time leading score in NBA history. He retired at 37, so Paul Pierce, as you watch 39-year-old LeBron James, throw down dunks. For real. No, that was not regular dunks that he's throwing down either. Does it concern you, though? We were talking about this yesterday, that his first game was October of, like, 2002, or whatever it is. Yeah.

Okay, now we're in... 2004. He's been 22 years in the league. So now it's 2024, and he's their most valuable player. Should I think less of the young players on this team or more of LeBron? Probably think more of LeBron, but you've got to understand there's a hierarchy in all of this. What do you mean? Like, LeBron is the guy, no matter where he goes, no matter what age he is.

If he steps on the court, it's running through him. He's going to bring the ball up. He's going to decide how we play. he's going to decide how we maneuver out here. So it's not that Anthony Edwards or Jason Tatum can't do this type of stuff at the end of the game or Steph Curry, you know, because they do this for their respective teams. But when you're talking about Team USA and who's the guy,

it's going to be LeBron James at the top. So who, what American player, what USA player probably doesn't benefit from LeBron kind of being the run in the ecosystem, of the offense. Is this, do you think it's hard on Steph Curry, for instance? He's not shooting well. Well, yeah, it's hard on all of them.

You know, mainly the guys who's on the court, whoever's on the court with LeBron. You know, because you've got to understand these guys is all number one options. So now they so used to be a number one options, they like, when they're out there with LeBron, they don't know,

am I the second option, third, do I stand in the corner? Do I set a screen? You're asking, Jason Taylor, to set screens. You're asking, like, Steph Curry, go stand in the corner. You know, I mean, they're confused on what their role is going to be.

And that's why you see Anthony Davis playing well because he's in his own role that he plays for the Lakers. That's right. You know what I'm saying? And Bam is in his role that he plays for Miami. So your point is the three guys that are in their roles with their team are all crushing. Are all playing well. You notice that, though? That's right.

It's interesting. Everybody else is out of their role. And Anthony Edwards is somewhat playing well because when he comes. comes in, he's off the bench. And he doesn't bring the ball up for them. Conley did anyway in Minnesota. Yeah, but he gets to go on some picking roles for the most part. That's why you're not seeing great games from a lot of guys, because the only three players who are in their roles are the three players that are playing great. LeBron, AD, and Bam. And Bam. So, you know, like South Sudan, as I watched, I thought, man, there's a lot of ballers globally. And even

Germany, now, you got Dennis Schroeder and guys like that. But there are great players globally. Is there any team that could be a matchup problem for this team? Man, from what I've seen, so far as South Sudan, because they have the athleticism, they had the speed, and what I did know is they can shoot. So if you got a combination of all three of those things, like, okay, I saw Germany, they shot the ball well, but then they, they, they didn't. I don't think they had the quickness. They don't have the quickness or the athleticism. They're not. Yeah, and that's the same thing that goes with Serbia, which I saw.

Maybe Canada, if they, you know, act like they want to play because it didn't look like they want to play when they first played the U.S. But South Sudan showed me a blueprint somewhat, even though they lost. Like, look, if you move the ball and you make threes and you play with speed and make the extra pass, that could be a problem for the U.S. Because they've only been together for a couple weeks, and their chemistry is not all the way there defensively. So they're really relying on their talent to win these games. And you've seen how the last couple games have been very close to this come down to the end. I was very critical of Anthony Davis when he got to L.A. Couldn't stay healthy.

I thought he came out of the bubble championship out of shape. It was time for him to grab the baton and he wasn't ready to play. But his last two years, I mean, he is just a handful, man. Well, he looks great in his role. He's still the 2A guy. You know, we haven't seen Anthony. He hasn't had much success being the guy. You know, in New Orleans, they didn't have a lot of success.

Is that just not his personality? No, I mean, but he's a big man who has tons of skills who can do so many things. It's just that you're not going to ask him down the stretch to carry us and have the killer instinct and do the things to be dominant. Like we saw with a number of big men throughout the course of history, Ologiwine and Shaq. and those things, and he's happy with that. And they won a championship that way. So, you know, you got to understand, he didn't become a score until he got to the NBA.

So mentality, growing up-wise, most scores who join the NBA, they were like that coming up. LeBron always scored and passed. I was always a score. Kobe scored in college, I mean, in high school, and then it led to the pros of Jordan. Like, Anthony Davis was a defensive stopper. You know, he was like a 10-10 guy with, like, six or seven blocks.

he didn't come in as a score, but then he started developing his skills. So just naturally, mentality-wise, he's not thought of as a go-to guy. He's not a naturally easy scoring, gifted fluid player. Although he can be a great score, he's had to work at it. He worked at that. Most guys who scored 25 points a game came up like that. Looks easy. Yeah.

This, though, has jumped out to me. I like Embed. but I do feel that Embed sometimes can't play a complimentary role. Anthony Davis is maybe one of the best complimentary players in the league. Yes. This has almost highlighted my concerns with Embed. Not that he's overrated, but when I watch Embed on the floor, I feel like he's getting in the way of the offense.

Have you played with great players who did that? Kind of getting in the way. Well, the reason he's getting in the way, because look how big he is on a smaller court. The court shrinks in the Olympics. It's a smaller court. The three-point line is smaller. You know, so everything is kind of packed in.

So it looks like he's in the way. Whereas in the regular season, over the last couple of years, he's been the best score in the NBA because of you can spray at the court. Lanes are open. So maybe Olympic basketball. Olympic basketball doesn't look like it fits him. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, it doesn't.

Because there's a lot of switching. The big men are versatile. and shoot the three. It's tough for him to play the pick and roll and switch on these guards, or it's tough for him to play the pick and roll and rotate back out to the big who's shooting threes at a high rate. And so that's why the defense gets better when you have Bam out of Bayou out there, because he switches.

Yeah. And so you always see this, the U.S. team keeps making a run. Every time you put Bam and AD in, they make a run immediately. Yeah. Because it's the defense, their ability to switch, whereas, indeed, he can't switch. So they're in a drop defense in the picking, roll so that's why they're swing swing open threes at the beginning and so it's the same formula over and over the same formula over and over every night so if i'm the u.s i would kind of like maybe

try to i would start bam that's interesting i would start bam i like what he brings because you don't have to go to him you know what i'm saying he's just out there he's going to set screens he creates his own offense he creates his own offense or you know ad the same thing yeah you know i think it's better whereas for MB to be effective, you have to go to him. He's a score. He needs the ball. He needs to operate in space. And so if he's not doing that, then he's sort of kind of wasted out there. So your 20th all-time leading score, Hall of Famer, you retired at 37. Do you remember your last year? LeBron at 39 is rolling. Go to your last year. How did you feel? Listen, before I even got to my last year, I remember my last three years. Like, when I got the

year 15, I was like waking out of bed and it was hit or miss. It was like, is this toe, is this knee? Any given day I can have some type of tendinitis and something. So you knew by 9.45 in the morning. Yeah, if I was going to have it or not. And Cobe Americano didn't do any good. No, did not do me any good. I probably needed about three or four massages, ice baths, all before game day.

Is that how it works for radio hosts? I'll be in big trouble. I know by 5.55 in the morning if I've got it. Paul Pierce, the Hall of Famer. Naismith Basketball Hall of Famer inducted a few years back. Proud to have him, hour to next. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.

Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American soccer is about to explode.

The World Cup is coming. Ramers sending on to Ernie. Score at the chip. Score! I'm Tab Ramos. I'm Tom Boca. On our podcast, inside American soccer, you'll get the real storylines, the biggest decisions. and the truth about the U.S. national team.

It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals. Listen, Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tab Ramos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcast presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend, Janet.

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With all the snacks and drinks. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they hit a bogo. Well, then you got it. Listen to soccer moms on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano.

It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on something. in my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow.

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