The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - NBA All-Star Weekend was a Zero, Rodgers-Jets Breakup

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

Jonas Knox and Lavar Arrington fill in for Colin and discuss the absolute dumpster fire of a NBA All-Star Game and weekend nonsense. Aaron Rodgers and the Jets are cutting the ties, but how much can you trust the Jets to not screw it up again? #2ProsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They was tweaking. I mean. It was tweaking on NBA All-Star Weekends. It's just, you know, people not real thrilled. Not real thrilled with the current format or whatever this format was this past weekend. You had a dunk contest featuring a guy who's played, you know, 14 seconds in the NBA, win it again. You had whatever this rinky dink circus tent pop-up event that was supposed to be the All-Star game show back up. and people are not happy about it

and are not thrilled with the content and the viewing experience that they got var over the All-Star weekend. I mean, I was thrilled because I didn't have an experience because I didn't view it. Yeah, if you want me to break down who had the best dunk of the night on Saturday.

I watched it. I watched the highlights of it all, but to watch all of it, you know, why it doesn't have that type of mass appeal? because let me tell you something. Them dunks were crazy good. They're crazy good dunks, man.

And that used to be the highlight of, somewhat of an NBA season. That was what you wanted. You waited for. You were excited. Who's going to be in the dunk contest? Who's doing it this year? And you would learn, like you said, somebody who doesn't even play very many minutes,

you would learn about new people and they would become celebrities. I'll never forget when Kenny's skis. Skywalker won the dunk contest, doing like aerodynamic, like acrobatic, like a ballet. He was doing ballet in the air when he was dunking. Like Kenny Skywalker wasn't like a dope basketball player for the Knicks. But we found out we learned about who he was because of the way he was dunking. Like, it just built a lot of, it built a lot of brands in the NBA back in the day.

Like in the late, you know, mid 80s, early 90s, you know, 90s. Like, it was, all-star weekend was a thing. And I think the NBA is suffering from the same exact thing that the NFL is suffering from as it applies to their all-star weekend, which is what is the relevance of these weekends? What can you do to make these weekends more relevant than what they are? And I think it's because of technology and all of these different things that's going on, fast-paced technology, I think it's very, it is a riddle that the NFL or the NBA has yet to figure out. So the way they laid it out was it's four different teams.

You had rising stars. You had just like whatever. The T&T crew had their teams and to break down the different categories and they would all meet up and then they would go into the final. It just team Shaq, Kenny, Chuck, Candace, like all that stuff.

It was just a fiasco. Like there's just, there's too much going on. It was not all that entertaining. It wasn't funny. Like they tried their hardest to try and add comedy to it. It wasn't funny. And so Draymond Green, who is, you know,

slowly becoming better and better and better. And his media career after he's done, it's already blossoming. After his career is over, he's going to be, you know, sitting with, you know, the great medium, the great former players to ever do it post career

when it comes to the media. He spoke last night on TNT and gave a brutally honest critique of this new format. You work all year to be an all-star and you get to play up to 40 and then you're done. This is so unfair to Victor Witt. in Biyama who just took this game really seriously.

Shea Gilder's Alexander who just took this game really seriously. When you talk about chasing after the points records, Mello, Kobe, and all these guys who've had great scoring nights, they don't get the opportunity to do that with this game. All so we can watch some rising stars. We're about to watch the Olympic team. Now we get the treat of watching the Olympic team play against a U-19 team. Come on, what are we doing?

Kale of 1 to 10, your thoughts of the format? 10 being the best? Yes. A zero. Sucks. Well, at least he's honest. And that's a fair, honest assessment. You know what I think the real problem is with the NBA?

I think the problem is the timing of it all. That why would you have, because, listen, you mentioned the NFL, all-star games minus major league baseball are awful. They're awful. Like the Pro Bowl looks like, you know, an airing of double-double. there from 20 years ago. It's like you're waiting for some guy to slide down a chocolate slide and pull a flag out of the nose.

It's awful. Like whatever they've thought they were doing to try and protect players in the Pro Bowl, it's terrible. It's not so much that the All-Star game sucks. It's the timing of it all. The NFL season just ended. There are people that are looking for things to watch and the NBA throws out this. Instead of, hey, why don't we maybe do the All-Star?

game. I don't know. Like, do it the same weekend of the Pro Bowl. Do it earlier. Like, let's, let's move it up earlier. So that that way, when the NFL season is over, we're putting on primetime marquee matchups. You want to throw Celtics, Thunder on because they're two of the best teams in the league. That's fine. You want to throw the Lakers with Luca on. But do that and present your product timing-wise in a better... Imagine if you're an NBA fan and you're like, all right, I'm going to give this NFL a try. And the first thing you see, is the Pro Bowl You'll be looking around and go, what the

what the F is this? If you're the NBA, I don't know why they refuse to counter program. I don't know why they refuse to acknowledge you're not even the second most popular sport anymore, your third behind college football. Why don't you like adjust your timing?

We've talked about, you know, start the season on Christmas Day and move it back so you're not competing with the NFL during and college football. the World Series and made all the other stuff that goes on in the fall, move your season back. In this case, this feels like an easy fix. Just have your All-Star game sooner, whatever you want to roll out. But the first weekend out of the gate with no football, this is the product you present.

It doesn't make any sense to me because it's an awful watch. And now all the conversation is about, man, the league is broken. It needs to do this. It needs to do that. Instead of, we could be talking about great games. great matchups, like make it a marquee moment to where NFL season's over. We'll take it from here. And instead, they rolled out crap.

Again, I'll say the saddest part of the commentary outside of it being true is that the dunks were phenomenal. They weren't just good. They were phenomenal. And nobody cared. You know who cared? the people who are probably upset right now that I said nobody cared and that's like the

niche portion of basketball fanatics you have some basketball purists who love to judge anybody who doesn't which you have that in every sport but those are the people who care what I don't understand is

again how do you allow for such a disconnect to take place on something that has been such a major part of our American culture to slip into non-relevance. I just don't get it. Like the three-point contest, people like watching it. That's something that people would watch.

It was something that it mattered, but make no mistake about it. You enjoyed the game because you knew in the second half, they were all going to play, and they were going to play hard, and they were going to play hard, and they were going want to win the game and the dunk contest like that's what it was and I just I asked myself when I when when we were coming into the topic I asked myself is this just a symptom of me like old heads are always the ones that say oh it was so much better when I was coming up it was it was so different da da da these days and you guys you young young bucks don't know anything about you know what what what it's all about this that it's so different now.

Am I, am I, like, I got to take a step back and say, am I coming at it from the wrong lens, from the wrong perspective? And I looked at social media because social media can now give you an idea of how you're feeling and what the algorithms are. Because if it's something that's something, it's going to be there. It's going to pop up. It's going, like, you're making fun of Jello. you're making fun of his song

that's one of the highlights of the whole deal is making fun of Jello being being the main that's your main performer what's there to make fun one song like it's not even like the dude got an album out like the dude has one song that they may go viral

and it's not even really a real performer he's like I'm sitting there I'm like you did not need all this gimmick stuff. And it made me take a step back and say to myself, are we now looking at an MBA that is a personality less NBA? That's what it made. My ultimate thought and my conclusion was, do we have an NBA now? Like, do you know the personality of Victor Wimbunyama? Do you know its personality? Yeah, well, he reads books before games, which...

Okay, that's a no. Do you know his personality? Joker, you know. You know why we like Anthony Ant Man so much? Because it's the first time we get a pulse of somebody having a freaking personality. You know why we like Draymond Green? Because we get a pulse of what a person... Do you know who Draymond Green is?

Do you know how he is? Sure. Exactly. Exactly. Steph Curry relatively obscure. You know he can shoot the ball. You know he's a good dude,

does things in the community, you know his wife. But do we really know his personality? You have those type of personalities from back in the day, but it's like they're like not the aid list group of celebrities that you knew

who Michael Jordan was. In fact, Michael Jordan told all of us to come fly with him. And every one of us thought we could fly. And that's why we still be wearing this. I got, I don't have no Jordan. on the day. But I had some on yesterday. Oh, man. I had some on yesterday, and I'd be damned if I don't have

Jordans on more often than not. You got some collies on? Right. Bottom line is, new ballots? We knew who Dominique Wilkins was. We were all trying to beat a human highlight film. We all were. You knew who Sput Webb was. He was the more quiet one. He was like that quiet one. But you had so many personalities. Charles Barkley

telling you to F off. I'm not your role model. I'm not your kid's role model. I'm not your role model. I think what has happened with the NBA, more specifically, which you shouldn't lose because they don't wear helmets. You don't have to battle people not knowing who you are and what you look like. You're six foot, whatever, looking like an avatar. You got to have, there has to be more established personalities.

Like throwing guns up in the club, throwing ones, strippers. Like, you can't have John Morant, who is one of your biggest names and dopest players. That's how we know you. That's how we know you? Like, that's Jason Williams back in the day. And he's like the degenerate of all the superstars. But even then you knew who Jason Williams was, personality-wise, because it was a point to make sure that the personalities were getting consumed by the consumer.

You're selling the game. We know who LeBron James is. We know his personality. we know who he is. He drives it because his personality and us knowing him, us going on this NBA journey with LeBron makes sense. How many players in today's NBA can we say that about? When you can say that about each team, each team, if you were a Pistons fan,

it was Vinny the Microwave, it was Isaiah Thomas, it was Joe Dumas, it was Rick Mahorn, and you knew who they were because they all had Bill Lambert, they all had their their personalities that you love that made them the bad boys if it was the new york knicks from oakley to mason to ewing to starks to to mark jackson you knew who these people were by market and their personalities drove the game and they mattered from the celtics to you name it the the rockets they all had their different personalities the portland trailblazers the Indiana Pacers sitting there choking that Reggie, Reggie Miller. We got to know Reggie Miller. He's sitting there choking himself out to Spike Lee. There were so many great moments that built a relationship between the players, the teams, and the fans.

It's unrecognizable in comparison to that. I mean, am I off on this? Do we, that's a disconnect. That's a disconnect. Like what is the connection to the player? what is the connection to the players in general, and what's the connection to the team? Where has that gone?

Because I think in a way, largely in part because of fantasy football and all this stuff going on with gambling, I think it's decentralized football as well. I think that's a large part of the problem that we have in football at this point now as well. Is that decentralizing of what the fan could really focus in on and that connection to the player and that connection to the team? think it's been removed. Well, I mean, the good news is the All-Star weekend's over. So, you know, at least there's that. Hopefully, this is the last time we got to talk about it.

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of the NFL could look like. and it's involving somebody who might have had a little too much to drink. So we will get into that for you again. Lee DeLat? A little over 20 minutes from now. No, no Lee. Oh.

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Yeah. On a holiday. Just grinding away here. You got to grind it. All right. So here we go. This is, God, this is so much fun. Aaron Rogers and the Jets are no longer together.

All right, they broke up. We're going to treat this like it's a celebrity breakup. They're no longer together. Aaron Rogers and the Jets. Yeah. Believe it or not. Were they ever together? Now.

Or did they track? There's some fun developments on this. Albert Breer of our buddy who comes on with us every week on two pros and a cup of Joe. He said the following in his MMQB column. Quote, the reality was that the Jets' desire to move on was about them and not Rogers and timelines that don't match up. New York was looking at a deliberate reimagination of its football operation, which was going to be tough to marry up with a quarterback playing for this year alone. There was no ultimatum on discussing Aaron's outside media appearances, but there was a discussion about it. So that from Albert Breer, who just kind of said, listen, you know, this whole thought that the athletic came out with that he can't do the Pat Macs.

if he's show and they were trying to, you know, set some rules and all that. That was propaganda. Yeah, not exactly the accident that played out. But this is why this is hilarious. Okay, talk about it. Steve Helling and Ryan Dunleavy of the New York Post reported that Rogers, quote, pleaded with the Jets to keep him and that in the final conversation with the team's new regime, he, quote, aggressively urged the franchise to give him another year or even two.

In the end, he reportedly accepted the decision, quote, like a man. going to the gallows. Dang. Dot, dot, dot. What a bunch of crap. Write a novel. Get out of sports reporting. Write a novel.

It's just so... It's so bad. But what it does do is illustrate the point that Aaron Rogers was right the entire time because he told everybody. There's too many leaks in the organization. There's too much of this stuff going on. He's been out the door for 20 minutes.

And already you've got three different reports about what happened and what transpired, none of which have come from him, all from the Jets. That you know of. You think he's going to portray himself as walking to the gallows with the New York Post? No.

But the idea of putting something out there to make him more of a sympathetic figure could be a form of sub-diffuge for him. That organization is a diaper fire, and it's not getting better. I think that's what it ultimately comes down to, is whether some of it was Rogers or not, you're still looking at an organization that runs it in a toxic manner. And I always reference back, I lived in it, I worked in it, and I understand what that type of environment does to the players, to the people that work in the building, from the people who clean up the locker rooms, to who takes care of the field, to the reception that's at the front. front to the media department, to the scouting department, to the sales department, advertising,

you name it. Toxic is toxic and it becomes a part of the entire culture of what you have going on, operationally speaking. And without knowing very much about the New York Jets and having been through their doors, I can just tell you the things that you see, the things that you hear that come from that organization internally totally illustrates what dysfunction and what toxic

looks like. It's like the epitome of what it would be. Like if you say here's the definition of what toxic or what dysfunctional looks like it would have the New York Jets as an example. And listen, I'm sorry if you're a New York Jets fan and that offends you, but the reality of

it is is that you guys ultimately become a part of that dysfunction too. You ultimately become a product of the culture as well as fans because you are living through these moments that get leaked out and get and get pushed out by by the new york media and the new york media has always had what i would say a fun time with taking the stories and the leaks and the information that they get and putting it in their periodicals or or reporting on it i mean francesa fric mike mike for my french

Francesa. Francesa, I mean, he can talk 20 hours about what's going on just in New York sports if he wanted to. I've been in the studio and have had an opportunity to listen to him and how he's able to talk about New York sports and what's going on. It is a part of the culture. And if you don't have a solid sound way of how you handle your business internally with your sports, organization, it will ultimately become what you are. And that's what you see. Hell, that's what you're saying with the New York Giants right now.

And I would have never thought that you would say that. From my time there, it seemed like it was a very well organized, very well-structured group by the mayor and the Tish family. It seemed like they did just an amazing job. But it even seems like they have now fallen victim to the same exact toxic. not operating out of high-level dysfunctional organization. It's the New York team, period, right now in football. So, like, for the Jimmy Butler-M Miami Heat situation, that was toxic towards the end.

Because, I mean, you know, these reports about he left him on the tarmac, he wasn't showing up, he didn't get a lot. Like, it just went out of there. But when it was over, he said, I got nothing but respect for the organization. And it was done. we were gone. Like it was over. He went his way. That's fine.

Hey, listen, didn't work out. Have fun at Golden State. You know, we're going to do our thing. All as well. Like, the Jets just can't let it go. Like, this, it's over. You're moving on. Like, you've made the decision.

You've gotten out there that you want to move on from Aaron Rogers. The timeline's done to add up. All as well. Yet, every day a new detail comes out. Why? For what? Because it's New York. It's because I'm telling you it's because it's New York.

Then trade for Justin Tucker, okay? Like if you want content, like make a move. They got enough of them massage parlors in New York City too, by the way. The red open sign. That's all you got to look for. I was told, just look for the red open sign for massages. And that's the place to go.

And they probably keep better secrets. Like, I'm just like, you know, like if you're looking for, if that's what you wanted to be, and it feels different than we talk about the Cowboys and Jerry Jones and you know he's all you know what loves the drama and loves to be you know have the team out there but it feels different because like with Jerry Jones like you know this is about a business the Jets it's just about drama like we just got to get our story out like we got to we got to get this out and that and so when the discussion becomes hey what's going to happen next for both sides where does Rogers end up is you know like the different things teams that are out there that are being rumored to be interested in him. I mean, that becomes the story, right? That should be what becomes the story. And the reason that becomes the story is because there's not a person walking the face

of the earth. I don't care if you're fireman Ed. I don't care if you're some mechanic in Brooklyn. I don't care who you are that's a diehard Jets fan. There's not a Jets fan walking the planet who has any confidence that this organization is going to be able to figure it out, A, at quarterback, and B, roster-wise. to get back to the playoffs or get back to some sort of relevancy. It's not happening.

Like nobody should feel any confidence in it. And especially after, well, we got rid of the old regime, we got rid of our GM and our head coach and our quarterback. We got a brand new coach, brand new GM. We are back. You just got rid of your quarterback. And instead of hearing about what the plan is for them moving forward. Yes.

You want to keep throwing dirt on a dead horse. It's over. A dead boss haul. It's done. Like the coffin, it's in the ground. They're shoveling dirt on it. Well, your coffin's in your big. And they're trying to open it, pry it back open and get one last lick in.

Like the body's cold and they want to get one more insult in. Oh, yeah? You POS? Like, no, just close the lid. Throw some dirt on it. And move on. Yes. And they won't.

They've got to run to the media. Got to get these stories out. And it's like, it's somebody who drives like a super fast car, super loud car, and they like making it rev up and like get into everybody's like day and interrupt it while they're having a peaceful meal or whatever it may be. Yeah. It's the same type, right? You're insecure about something. Them dudes and them cars that be revving our own. They got something wrong with them.

Like if there's something that is insignificant about it. If I did that with my truck, if I try that with my truck, it would die. It would vanish. It would literally disappear. And you would evaporate with it. Like, I would just be sitting there holding a steering wheel. First off, your truck would not be capable of making that type of sound anyway. But I almost feel like that's a reverse you're hiding something.

Like there's a reverse something wrong with you telling us. Like you're not getting a brand new $100,000, $200,000 car that says, hey, hey, look, pay attention to me. You got the $5,000 truck that says, hey, load up your tools. We're going to go, you know, mow some lawns. Look at the backseat. We're going to go handle some plumbing or, you know. Look at the back seat. It's the outfits for a mariachi band.

To the instruments are there. I'm just saying. But you got equally, you probably have something that you're compensating for as well by underwhelming yourself with the vehicle that you drive. It's the same thing with this New York Jets organization. Same thing probably with the ownership is that there is a tremendous amount of trying to overcompensate for an inadequacy of something. And maybe it's winning.

Maybe it's relevance in the sports sphere. I don't know what it is, but they are overcompensating. And it's like play to hits. You know how Q hits you would play. Jonas, play the hits. Let's talk about dollars or da-da-da-da, whatever it may be. I think that this is one of those things where they won't get to leverage Aaron Rod. You know how they get to leverage him again is if Aaron Rogers went somewhere and did it really poorly? I don't think they would try to leverage him if he went somewhere and did it really well.

I think Aaron Rogers would leverage it if he went somewhere and did it really well. But that's the only way you get to use Aaron Rogers again to generate some type of ROI because you've gotten zero in reality of an ROI from. bringing in Aaron Rogers to your organization. They're trying to get their return on investment, so they're going to keep playing the hits. It's fresh into the offseason. You did do all of those things with all these new people. So basically, paint a picture of how effed up it was so that now you can sit there and say, hey, look at what we did.

We are doing things better. We are being a better organization. Hung, wrong, hang, yum. You know what I mean? Like, we're getting Aaron Rogers up out of here. You know, he's not going to get any more coaches fired. Da-da-da-da. Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers, you're toxic.

You did this. Like, get rid of them. Okay, there you go. Listen, Aaron, we're really concerned about, you know, if you did come back, what would it look like these weekly media appearances you're doing with the Pat McAfee show? That's our big concern. While we go to the media multiple times over to let them know that we're telling you not to go to the media or else you get. It's like, dude, what are you doing?

It's okay as long as we're doing it. It's not okay when you do it. Like, it would be like a drug addict standing outside of fast food place going, hey, man, get your life together. Dang. Excuse you? You've got a spoon with a lighter. Dang. And it's noon.

Dang, don't it? I'm having a milkshake and fries. Both will kill you. Yeah. That's why I use Ph.D. weight loss, baby. What a PhD? Both will kill you, though. I'm just telling you.

The damn Jets. I'll say this, though. I'll drink a strawberry milkshake. Yesterday from in and out, by the way. Did you? Who! Hit the spot. Damn.

Yeah. It was better than watching the NBA All-Star. And it's also better than talking about Aaron Rogers getting asked on by the Jets because we already know they did equal. If you ask me, they did equally to put us on one another from Aaron Rogers and how he's handled things to the way the Jets have handled things. It ain't as good as that strawberry or milkshake. By the way, if I had a strawberry milkshake, I'd have to throw away my shoes in a half hour. Oh, yeah. Like, I'm lactose intolerant.

Are you lactose intolerant? I'm something. I am. I am. I am, and I was in Penn's music or dance recital yesterday, and I just got to tell you, if they had those, those things they have at Disney, where it monitors you or it has the heat. And they can see the gases coming from you. Really? You know what I'm talking about?

We talked about it. That's a real thing. That they can kick you out of or arrest you. If you're passing gas. Yeah, they ban you from the park if you're passing gas. Don't come to a radio studio. Oh, well, you shouldn't have been nowhere near me yesterday. Nowhere near your boy yesterday.

Every time somebody dance, I do one of them like movements, like I dance with them. It's just like a little duck come out like, right? You know? And it was strawberry milkshake because I'm lactose intolerant, but I really enjoyed it. Lovar, you're a trumpet player? I try to make sure it was really loud. It was great acoustics in there, so you can't really hear me. I mean, it was good, though.

You know, it's not a representation of the product. No. No, I'm just lactose and tolerant. Well, I mean, the jets are success intolerant. So there's that. It is. What happens when they had success? Was there a little?

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Yeah. Yeah. Jonas, good to be back with you. Screw you, music. You know when they have Jason McIntyre to Ryan Music to me, the EPOG, you know if there's something. wrong. There's something wrong. Well, listen, we appreciate it because, you know, you take your craft seriously. You're not, you're not in Bangladesh like music. I don't mess around. Yeah, I don't mess around. I don't go halfway across the world. I'm a grinder. I'm a grinder. I'm grinding with you guys today.

All right. So, Mack McClung is now our three-time dunk champion, right? And nobody questions his repatriure of dunks, right? Levar, you were saying earlier. They were amazing, right? They were awesome. So last line after the, or Saturday after the dunk contest. There were. There were. There were. Yeah. He just like the props, the cars and all that stuff. So after the dunk contest, veterans, veteran stars weighed in on social media, saying they would be interested in doing the dunk contest here. Jha Morant. Mack might make me decide to dunk.

Janus to Jha, if you do it, I'll do it. Ha ha. Zach Levine, think he might have to do it again. So LeBron was asked after the dunk contest if he's had any regrets about never participating in the dunk contest. There's no part of me to have regrets about not doing it. Obviously, I had a couple moments where I wanted to do it and it just never worked out that way going to.

into the following season either because of injuries or I just wasn't up. I wasn't up for it. I mean, if those guys do do it, I mean, those are stars, superstars in our league and obviously we know the athleticism that the guys are just named. It would be pretty cool. So, Lovar, you hit this earlier. Like, we need the stars back, right?

We need the stars back. My biggest issue, and I told Jonas this yesterday, was that. Is that MacMacon's white? Oh, wow. Oh, you didn't say that? I did not say that. I did not say that. Sorry about that. I screenshot. I screen shot it.

So I said, I texted Jonah a screenshot of MacMuckluck's stats this year. Jonas, do you remember how many points he's averaged this year in the NBA? A point seven or something like that? No, 0.0. Oh, okay. The problem that the NBA cannot have their dunk contest champion not being an NBA player. Am I crazy? Levar, am I crazy?

No. You're not. You're not. And by the way, why do you have like, uh, actually, you know what they should do? If you want star power, why don't you have Brony James for his jello ball next year in the finals? All right, why not? I just think that, well, to your point,

you have to have that nice blend of the megastars and the obscure stars. Like, there's nothing wrong if an obscure star comes out and beats you. I think if LeBron is being honest, if he's being real, he didn't want to lose. Like, let's be clear. I don't think he wanted to lose because I think that that would have hit him in a certain type of way. He clearly keeps his name relevant within the goat conversation.

And I just think that that's one of those, you know, people rarely bring it up as a sticking point in the argument. But let's be clear, MJ was owning them dunk contests. He was owning them dunk contest. And you couldn't get LeBron to do one? Yeah. And you knew how explosive he was. was like he mess around with people posted on social throw the ball off the wall boom boom bounce bounce bounce go catch it dunk it like he mess around with people but he never really

went for the dunk contest like I think that that that was that that that showed something that was exposed exposure you don't have to be to your point a superstar to do it like it just it's the fact that it's somebody that's not on a roster it just feels weird like remember when d brown won it when he did the pump pumped his shoes up yeah he wasn't a star player but he played I think he was on the rookie all right team like he's like he it was an okay player and and he

that though is what he's known for so it can increase your value from that standpoint but it's like there's no way for them to build on the back of this because Mac Macbucklund doesn't play so it's not like oh hey there's that guy from the dunk contest where your problem lies

that's where your problem lies and he can win it one year fine but he's not won at three years in a row. That's a problem. My whole thing is, even if he wins it, because his dunks are dope. Like, there's nothing wrong with him winning it. It's who he's winning against. Yeah. Yep.

Beat LeBron. I want to see John Moran. I want to see John Moran go out there. We see how explosive he is. I want to see these guys go out there and compete. Like, and if you're not going to do it that way, then go out and get these professional dunkers.

Get a professional dunker and let them go against the NBA guys. and see who wins. All right, let's head to Philly here. So after the Super Bowl, Sequin talked, he was throwing around some dynasty talk, and then over the weekend he was at Cains.

Have you guys been to Cains before? Raising Cains? Love Cains. Yeah, sure. He was over at Cains, working at Cains over the weekend. And he kind of backtracked a little bit. Here was Seekwan on his dynasty talk after the Super Bowl.

I said after the game, why can our dynasty start now? Probably had a little bit of champagne and other stuff in my system. at the time, but you really can't focus on that. You just got to enjoy the moment. It's hard to win one. You take it in, you enjoy the moment, and you start over.

Find out how you can hold that Lombardi up again and do it all over again. So the dynasty thing can't really get caught in that. The way you do that is by putting the work in. So he's right, he's right. Typical Penn Stater. Typical Penn Stater. So we all assumed that the Chiefs would kind of go on a little run, right?

But with the Eagles, do we think they could go on a little dynasty run? Jalen Hertz is taking the next step. They've got young stars on D. they don't have many star free agents they could potentially lose and they've got all their talent they got strong young talent too they're built for it it's it is so hard to do again as we've seen with the chief which is why the chief's going back to a third Super Bowl nobody ever done that to go to three straight let alone try to win three straight the chiefs are dynasty though right yeah that's a dynasty yeah for sure how many times do they have to do it before they're

the dynasty. They got one. They made an appearance and lost to a dynasty team. I think you need another one. Just one? To be in the conversation. To be, look, hey, well, me this is like, listen, I think the bills going to four straight was a dynasty. That's a dynasty.

Like, I know they didn't win it. I know that's going to piss people off, but the bills going to four straight Super Bowls is incredible. And, you know, the fact that they were unable to win one is just really important. got embarrassed in the Super Bowl. Like they were going down to the wire losses. They were Phil Gold kicked that were, you know.

That won against Dallas was pretty bad. The highlight from that was Don Beebe, chasing down Leon Lett. Knocking it out. Yeah. But the Scott Norwood. Oh, brother. I'm just saying, you know. I was thinking about this, too.

They were showing after the bills lost that first Super Bowl, the fans showed up. There was like hundreds of thousands of Bill's fans that showed up to support them just losing a Super Bowl. Good. The Eagles win a Super Bowl, and they're like, people are getting shot. They're punching police horses. They're blowing chunks over the rail at night in the morning. They can be a dynasty. Sequan stand on it.

They can be a dynasty. I believe they can. Damn. There you go. We are. Pennsylvania, baby. Hell yeah. Hey, guys, it's us.

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