The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - NFL new kickoff rule
Episode Date: August 2, 2024Colin calms NFL fans down by saying the new kickoff rule during the Hall of Fame game may seem weird but will become normal over the season Bears QB Caleb Williams should have gotten a few reps last n...ight See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So I watched with anticipation for the new kickoff rule.
I was hoping for Caleb Williams.
Still don't know why he didn't play.
We'll get into that later.
But I got a few thoughts on the new kickoff rule.
It was jarring for sure.
Jarring.
Yes.
A little video game looking.
It looks a little odd.
But, and I think about this a lot in my life,
what was the intent?
The intent is we're trying to reduce the number of
concussions for these amazing athletes who put their body in harm's way.
Generally in my life, if your intent is good, I'm good.
I don't have to agree.
I don't have to agree with every single position or policy of my favorite political candidate to vote for them.
I don't have to agree with my wife on every debate we have to lover.
I've worked at companies that make decisions I don't agree with.
I can still like a company.
People in life are too rigid.
Americans complain too much.
Football is amazing.
Stop seeking perfection.
You want perfection?
Look in the mirror.
Do you live up to that standard?
Football's not perfect, but it's great.
There's a lot of rules in football I don't like.
I think it's way too punitive that you fumble out of the end zone
and in football you lose possession.
I think that's ridiculous.
I think college football has pass interference right,
where it's a 15-yard penalty,
not 58 yards because your legs get tangled up.
The NFL's not perfect, but they're always willing, unlike baseball, to change things.
The catch rule was screwy for several years, and they changed it.
In basketball, the Olympics have the FIBA rules.
The NBA has their rules.
I actually prefer some of the FIBA rules.
If your intent is in the right place to protect these amazing athletes,
who are putting their body in treacherous positions in a sport with semi-regulated levels of violence,
then I'm okay with it.
I remember when UFC started, Dana White and the Fratitas came out,
and they took out some of the more ugly eye-gouging,
and all the UFC fans complained,
oh, why don't you put a skirt on?
The sport has done nothing but explode and grow.
Yes, I know there's the guys out there.
why don't you just play flag football?
Oh, yeah, because nobody would watch it.
I love soft pudgy guy on the couch suddenly telling me the league went soft.
This league is for men, big, strong men, colliding into each other.
Let's create rules that at least protect them.
And by the way, I watched the kickoffs last night.
Seven of eight were returned.
Seven of eight, more football, just like when they changed the PAT.
rule. More real football. Less going to the fridge for another beer. Last year, 73% of kickoffs
were touchbacks. Less football. Trust the NFL. They know what they're doing. They're not perfect,
but their rules committee makes changes almost always for the right reasons. It's better for the
fans, or in this instance, it's healthier for the players. Listen, it looks a little odd. It'll
takes them getting used to. So did the three point line the first year it came out. And then I got
used to it. Here's the Bears coach, Matt Eberfluse, on the new kickoff rule. You have to figure
it out like, hey, what is it going to look like? So certainly we've tried different things on the
return team and different, you know, way to attack on the cover team and putting different bodies
in different spots. So we're really just trying to figure it out. And I think that's where all
coaches are. We're just trying to figure it out and do the best thing we can. And that's going to be
ongoing through the whole season. And then you'll have to adjust. That's the way the NFL is.
Many of you romanticize about the dream team. This Olympic basketball team, deeper, more talented,
more skilled, more positionless. And many of you, when the NFL brought out rules to protect the
quarterback, I was at another company. This will ruin the game and the ratings and the revenue have gone
up, up, up, up.
I don't watch football for players getting hurt and violence.
I watch it for efficiency,
great offense, amazing quarterback play.
And yet last year, with all the protective measures with quarterbacks,
over 60 took a snap.
You don't watch football for the kickoffs.
Stop it.
Three out of four go into the end zone.
How many kickoff returns for touchdowns were there in the NFL last year?
less than a half dozen, I bet you we have more this year.
But I also know for a fact, you'll have more kicks returned.
And let's circle back to the very beginning.
If the intent in life is good, I'm not seeking perfection.
They're doing it for the right reasons.
Take a deep breath.
Change is hard for a lot of people.
You're still going to watch the games.
So I saw this.
The NFL, interesting story.
It feels small, but is it?
The NFL had to shut down a rulebook loophole that was being exploited last year by three teams.
The three teams were the Miami Dolphins, the San Francisco 49ers, and the Los Angeles Rams.
Hmm.
In week one, the dolphins used a certain motion that it looked like players often got a running start.
So what are those three teams have in common?
All three have really smart, young offensive coaches.
By the way, the three teams that led the NFL in motion last year and deception, the same three teams.
For the record, I want my accountant and my coaches pushing the emperts.
using anything they can that is legal.
And it was.
Now, the league can step in, just like the IRS can and close a loophole.
But I want my coaches pushing to the edge.
If you go to the last, like, 12 coaches that have got to Super Bowls or the AFC NFC
championship, I think it's like 11 of 12.
John Harbaugh is the only exception, but he knows offense.
11 of 12 have been offensive coaches.
Push, push, push.
push, apologize later.
Create, progressive, smart, looking for loopholes and edges.
Bill Belichick was a great coach.
Brady retired.
He fell off a cliff.
Look around at the teams that run less motion, struggle to rebuild offensive lines,
aren't very creative.
It's overwhelmingly defensive staffs, defensive-leaning cultures.
That doesn't mean Demico Ryan's can't win a Super Bowl if he gets a star quarterback,
but if he loses his OC, watch out.
If I'm an owner today,
I am looking around thinking,
why did my coaches not use that loophole?
That won the Rams and the Dolphins and the Niners games.
Why is my accountant not doing that?
Why is my owner not doing that?
You know what rich guys probably do when they see somebody
gets a loophole shut down by the IRS?
They call their accountant and say,
why weren't you using that?
And that's what I'm doing today as a GM or,
or an owner.
Petsburgh, Mike Tomlin,
why weren't you using that?
Pete Carroll's last year.
Why weren't you doing that?
I want my coaches to push the envelope.
By the way, Philadelphia, the Tush Push.
Make the league outlaw it.
I think it's dangerous to have your quarterback
in a position where players are pushing him from behind.
I saw a couple of quarterbacks.
I think Daniel Jones or Herbert actually got a little dinged up
with the tush push.
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I love the Eagles creating something that absolutely moved the chains and without a doubt
won a game or two.
There's no question they extended drives throughout the course of the last two years
with a tush push.
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it or the league may end it.
That's up for debate.
I think it's an ugly play that could get guys hurt.
But make the league.
league outlawed.
Push to the very edge.
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So I'm happy in the Hall of Fame game that backup Brett Rippin was slinging it.
And that's great.
But as I watched the game, my takeaway was, why didn't Caleb Williams play?
Like, I get veterans not playing.
I get banged up offensive or defensive linemen not playing.
I totally get it.
But as a rookie versus vanilla schemes, let's chop it up.
I mean, Caleb Williams hasn't played since like November.
Like, I think it's time to play a little bit.
Andrew Luck, for the record, played almost the entire first half of his first preseason game.
Tom Brady debuted in this game, the Hall of Fame game.
Patrick Mahomes plays in the preseason.
And I think Caleb's going to be very successful.
How successful, I don't know.
It's the Bears.
And the Bears have a history of screwing stuff up with young quarter.
They either draft the wrong one or they don't protect him with offensive line or they hire the wrong coach or coordinator for the young quarterback.
So let's not treat Caleb Williams like a star or superstar before he's actually very good.
And I said yesterday, I do think he's the only quarterback in this draft that if the organization can't get it right, he'll be productive.
He'll be like Kyler Murray is the example I used.
He'll get paid.
He'll have good stats.
He'll move the chains.
But there's a lot of doubters.
I'll tell you this.
It's not Andrew Luck.
When Andrew Luck came out,
I called every exec and scout I knew the year before he came out.
And they were like, that's Elway.
Stanford, smart, tough, arm moves.
That's Elway.
Elway's considered the greatest prospect ever.
That's Elway.
Trevor Lawrence had people that pushed back, even though I loved him.
Greg CoSell to this day is like he's not as talented Colin as you think.
Caleb Williams gets pushback.
The fingernails with vulgarity on them, jumping into the stands.
He could be moody on the sidelines.
Sometimes his accuracy was a little hit and miss.
The perpetual ad-libbing out of plays designed by Lincoln Riley that could be successful.
And add to all of that, the Chicago Bears, who screwed up all the time on offense.
So he is not a slam dunk.
I think he's too talented not to be productive.
But remember, Patrick Mahomes sat, has had Andy Reid, Steve Spagnola, Travis Kelsey,
a great GM and great ownership.
Do you know the only MLS team?
I'm told there's only one or two MLS teams that are highly profitable.
One of them's Dallas FC.
Who's it owned by?
Clark Hunt.
Who owns the Chiefs?
Clark Hunt.
Patrick Mahomes would go into the weeds.
all the time. And Andy Reid would pull him back and get his mechanics on track. Matt Eberfluse,
that's not his specialty. Again, you have in Kansas City, great ownership, not good,
great front office, great coach, great support system. You don't really have that in Chicago.
I think Ryan Poles the GM has been impressive in the last 18 months, but you don't have
great ownership, little old and out of touch. We don't know about Matt Eberflue. We don't know about Matt Eberflue.
the targets young and old many pass their prime outside of DJ more or too young to be
substantially impactful so I don't understand I mean only one I start looking at these
quarterbacks and you can't play scared I mean only one quarterback in the league the last two years
has played every started every game played every snap right so it's like you just got to play guys
if they get hurt and what do you do you cross your fingers so he didn't have good offensive lines
at USC and he didn't get banged up very much.
So I just, I didn't get it.
Andrew Luck, first time he could play,
played him for a first half.
Vanilla schemes against third
teamers, get him some snaps, let him chop it up.
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That's a not great news to start the show.
Justin Herbert was diagnosed with plantar fascia
in his right foot.
which will put him in a walking boot for the next two weeks.
Very painful.
Following the walking boot, Herbert will be on a gradual return to play protocol
but is expected to be ready for week one.
This is not great.
I know several moms and dads who have plantar fasciitis,
and it just doesn't go away.
I don't know how an NFL quarterback is going to deal with this.
I mean, if he's not 100%, you just forget the season, right?
Chargers are not going to contend or compete.
for anything.
I've said, the next month
is the worst month
for football. There's no great
news for the next month. There's only
bad news.
What's the best news
you could get? Hey, that
rookie in the fourth round looks like he may
start. That's not great news. It's
good news. There's encouraging news.
So this is the only month of the year in football
where the news is all bad.
The rest of it's rumor, speculation, which is fun.
We dabble in that. That's fun.
You never know.
But yeah, this is a bad month.
This is Cross Your Fingers Month.
Every morning I get up, I go to the NFL wire.
First thing I look at is, is everybody healthy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's clutch.
All right, next up, let's go to Brock Purdy.
You were kind of scoffing at the combined seven interceptions he had in practice on Monday Tuesday.
Scary.
You know, now turn over free on Wednesday.
He was lightened it up.
But I guess Brock Purdy heard your derision,
and he's addressed why he's throwing so many picks in the warm-up to the pre-stop
to the preseason.
You want to go out, you want to be efficient, you want to go through reeds and obviously
protect the ball and whatnot.
But right now is the time for us to go out and, you know, you always see the quarterback
say experiment, but that's really what it is.
Can I fit it in this window on this hits?
Can I look off Fred or Flan or Devandre in a certain way and then make that throwback
side?
You've got to try it out.
I mean, in the game and in the season, it comes down to protecting the ball every snap,
every player.
So you can't necessarily try those things out.
Right now we can.
And so my mindset right now is, you know, protect the ball, but let's be aggressive.
Let's try this out.
Let's figure it out.
You know, did you see the crowds there at Niners camp?
It's packed.
Yeah.
You see in the crowds at Cowboy Camp, nobody's there.
Now, I was thinking about this.
So if you live in the Midwest or the East Coast, you may not know this.
But the Niners are the Yankees of the West Coast.
No matter what stadium you go into in the NFL, they'll bring 30,000 people to a Raiders game
to a Chargers game to a Rams game.
They'll turn your stadium red.
It's like the Yankees, at the height of the Yankees power is you see Yankee hats everywhere.
And they're kind of the baseball team that moves the needle.
I watch crowds, and I started watching over the last couple of years watch the ratings.
The Cowboys still do well.
But even in Dallas, there's sort of an apathy about them at their camp.
The attendance has been really unspectacular.
And I'm dead serious on this.
I wonder if the Niners, they've been so good for so many years and so exciting and so star-tusted,
and we're a celebrity culture.
Everybody plays fantasy football.
Everybody's betting.
So, you know, everybody now, what team has the most stars?
The Niners by far.
I wonder if slowly, and I'm serious, if the Niners aren't becoming America's team.
They've got like nine star players.
The Cowboys have three.
And Cowboy fans in a survey this week said, yeah, we have no.
chance to get to the Super Bowl over the next 10 years.
So when Cowboy fans are bailing, what does it tell you?
I'm fascinated to watch the early ratings this year.
I feel like most of my life.
Now, when I was young, J. Mack, in the 70s, I felt like the Steelers were America's team.
Well, they were, they were, didn't they win three or four Super Bowl?
Well, they were just, they were just, they had like nine Hall of Famers.
And the steelworkers eventually around the country who had been displaced would move around the country
We had Steeler bars everywhere.
And then I felt during Farrb's run, it was a little bit like the Packers got really, really popular.
The numbers were very even with the Cowboys during the Favre run.
Favre was beloved.
So it's like mid-late 90s?
But if you go to the Niners since Bill Walsh and Montana and even the Kaepernick years, they were exciting.
And now I kind of feel like, I should go upstairs and ask Mike Molde Hill.
I wonder if the next.
Niners aren't becoming, we've hit a Rubicon, that they're going to move past the Cowboys as the most
popular national team.
It's possible.
Listen, Niners Jets, Week 1 is going to have a massive number.
That's huge.
When's the last Niners game that didn't get a massive number?
Rogers returning.
And think about how big the brand is, they're quarterbacks.
They're, you know, eight best players.
The quarterback's not a superstar.
So whereas the Cowboys were led by Romo or Dak or eight men.
Romo?
You could lead by Romo, but you can't.
led by Purdy? Romo was wildly
popular and polarizing.
Tell me how many times he finished top three in the MVP voting.
Why is he at CBS doing the games?
What does that mean? He's popular. This isn't
a good quarterback. He was a B plus
quarterback. So what's Purdy?
A B quarterback.
Oh, stop! That's insane.
But by the way, Purdy makes a
great point about, hey, I'm going to toss
interceptions in camp. Who cares?
This is when you're time to experiment.
I'm going to fit it in this window.
That's right.
I know people are going over.
trying to bash Purdy. We're not. First of all,
making fun of his camp interceptions,
this show is not that serious.
I agree. A little tongue-in-cheek
on the show. That being said,
we both like to pick our favorites,
and it's clear Purdy's not one of your favorites,
and he has become one of mine,
as I'm a champion for the underdog,
you, the coastal elite,
you like your super-sourge.
Patrick Mahomes, he's so good.
Yeah, kind of. He really is.
I'll champion the underdog. A final story
is, oh, here we go, Jack Prescott
for fading America's team.
Still waiting for that long-term
deal as he enters the final year of his
contract. He had a one-on-one
sit-down with the Dallas TV stations,
and Colin, he can't stop talking about
the possibility of finishing
his career elsewhere. Oh, let me hear, let me hear.
Having a kid,
your perspective changes a little bit of life.
A lot of quarterbacks have done that, and that's just
the business and the nature of this game.
That's me not being naive
to that and to those potentials. And as a
said in that press conference.
It's not something that I look for or prepare or even plan for, but if something like
that happens, I'll be most certainly ready for it.
I've got a ton of confidence, but that's also not something that honestly I think about.
I'm here in training camp and focused on this year.
I'm on a contract for this year, and that's all I really care about.
You know, I think those are, I don't have a problem with any of that.
Listen, if DAC is going to do interviews and people are obviously going to ask about it, he has
are right to answer the question.
I don't feel like he's feeding anything.
I think those are very grown-up.
Dak has never disappointed me in front
of a microphone. I think he is the model.
Dak Prescott is the NFL
model of how to act at the podium
and in interviews.
He's literally as good as I've ever seen.
He's very... He's like Brady.
Franchise quarterback. No, I mean...
And by the way, that matters. I know you guys out there
think it's about arm and speed. That
is a big deal.
He is the role... He is the role...
model for how to act at the podium and during an interview.
Yeah, you get like the rookie quarterback symposium or whatever and you put on a DAC video,
this is what we want from you at the podium.
Now, let me ask you, true or false, this is the best three-year run for the Cowboys post-Troy Aikman.
Yeah.
True, right?
If I'm Dak Prescott, I go to Dallas and say, I'm your guy.
You guys drafted me.
I've been here forever.
I'm eligible to make a lot of money from it.
If you don't want to pay that to me, guess what?
I'm okay taking less money to go elsewhere.
And I would not be surprised if that unfolds here.
He knows, hey, I'm your guy.
Jerry, pay me the money.
And if you don't want to pay me, fine.
I don't mind going to play it for 45 for the Raiders.
You know why?
Out of principle that you're not showing me the respect I deserve for what I did for this team.
Well, I think Dak Prescott is complex.
So one of the things I take pride in is I can admit I'm wrong.
And I can also say, I don't love Dak's.
talent necessarily. I think he's
pretty okay throwing and moving.
But two things I love
is his ability
to be a grown-up
and also his work
ethic. Clearly the players love him in the
locker room. He's a leader. Here's
the other thing I could admit. There's going to be
a bigger market for DAC than anybody thinks.
I have already talked to one general
manager in the last month
that will be very interested
in Dak Prescott. Why?
If you're a chaotic organization,
with a temperamental weird owner,
Dak Prescott brings the temperature down.
Okay, that's...
That is a...
Let me tell you some.
It used to be NFL owners
were worth $800 million.
$700 million,
$700 million, 10 years ago, 12 years ago.
So you just didn't fire a staff.
It wasn't a rounding error.
You didn't want to pay $28 million for this.
Now they're worth $4 billion, $3 billion, $6 billion.
When people get richer,
they get crazier.
Okay?
And these owners now are more
impulsive.
There's a higher percentage
of Looney Tunes upstairs.
And when coaches know
the owner's wacko,
what do they want?
Stability on the field
and it quarterback.
Dak just put,
in Dak's helmet or back of his jersey,
it should say grown up,
adult.
And I'm telling you,
more than people think watching this show,
general managers and coaches
have to put out fire
because a Looney Tunes upstairs.
I can name five off the top of my head.
And so Dak will bring the temperature down, he'll win you games.
There's a lot I like about Dak.
I don't want to pay him $59 million, but if I have to go 52,
the cap's going to go up $13 million next year or the year after I'll live.
He's in a no tax, great tax situation in Texas.
If the Raiders want him another great tax situation in Nevada,
now there are some other teams that could be interested that are in high tax dates
where maybe that $3, 4, 5, $7 million is going to matter to them, right?
Like, I don't think this is slam dunk.
I don't think DAC has driven by money.
I think he's driven by respect that this organization post-Romo could have teetered into the abyss
and DAC won 13 games as a rookie.
He's kept him on television.
He's gotten him into the playoffs in a division with Philadelphia.
And I think Dak's looking for a level of respect.
and I can respect that.
And would you say that he's not getting that respect currently?
No, he's been respected.
I'm just saying.
No, no, that right now.
I think he's always been, I think Dallas has treated him fairly.
This is going to be wrapped up before the end of the season.
End of the season or preseason?
End of the season.
I think they'll get the, I think they'll get the, the mic is going to get wrapped up pretty quick too.
But I don't worry about that.
Because if Dak comes out and plays like he did last year,
You can't pay him anything less than top dollar.
If he has another year like last year where he was excellent.
Jerry Jones has proven, despite what Jerry says, it's more important for him to be relevant than great.
Jerry proves that time and time again.
He signs stars to contracts.
Jerry loves to be in the news.
I've argued this before.
That Jerry pushes all these contracts down the road.
Why?
Because people like us talk about him.
Instead of signing a quick contract.
and getting off television, Jerry loves it being discussed for four or five, six months.
That last contract got discussed for a year.
Jerry's like free publicity.
Jerry tells you wants to win the Super Bowl.
Know what Jerry wants to be is relevant.
It's good for business.
It sells merch.
Jay Mack with the news.
Well, that's the news.
And thanks for stopping by.
The herd lie news.
You see, college football teams out for practice.
I'm told Lincoln Riley's on the hot seat.
he's not by the way very excited for this season it's going to be a massive college football year
i can't get enough of it so uh two stories yesterday about um the olympic men's basketball team number
one uh steve curr reacting to all the tatum topics and the embied criticism says listen
the NBA is popular worldwide said steve Kerr regular season's kind of a soap opera we understand
that social media takes over.
Everybody now gets so dramatic.
I think we have to give the guys more credit.
They're going to, you know, they understand what the gold medal means.
Snoop Dog came out and reported that the men's basketball players are unbothered by Steve
Kerr's rotations.
Okay, so let me support the media here a little bit.
And I don't always.
Yes, people overreact in the media and they get very dramatic.
Yes.
And I do think players Snoop Dogg is right are unbothered by.
this. But Jason Tatum playing no minutes is newsworthy. And Joel Embed once again clogging up an
offense and being yanked out of a game two and a half minutes in is newsworthy as a former NBA
MVP. Now, NBA players, I think, are smart. They understand that this is the Olympics. There is no
bench. Bench guys are all NBA.
It's only 40 minutes.
It's eight minutes shorter. It is harder
to get guys in, but I will
argue no minutes
for a guy two years ago
that was the most valuable player
in the league, M-beat, and he clearly
clogs up and messes up the offense.
And no minutes in the game for Jason
Tatum. When Derek White,
the fourth best player or fifth
best player for the Celtics, is getting substantial
minutes, it's newsworthy.
It needs to be talked about. And the
other thing is social media is a big part of the NBA's popularity. We watch football. How do I know?
I work at a TV network. I see the ratings every day. We watch college football. We watch the NFL.
We sort of debate the NBA. We don't watch it. We don't really watch college basketball's regular season.
We watch the tournament because it's a bracket. And we don't really watch the NBA until you get mostly to the finals or maybe.
maybe occasionally a conference finals, but we debated on social media.
And that's okay.
Baseball gets neither big ratings or debate on social media.
So that's a lane that the NBA does well at.
But I can't unsee what I didn't see with Embed, which is not playing, which is getting yanked off the floor in two minutes.
It's newsworthy.
It's debatable.
It's discussable.
Again, it'd be one thing if the only Celtic on the team was tated.
but when Derek White and Drew Holiday are playing substantial minutes and Tatum gets none?
I've been told he's first team all NBA, top five player for a year.
None?
It's something.
Listen, when Isaiah Thomas didn't make the team.
Dream Team, it was newsworthy when Jaylen Brown didn't make this team.
Finals MVP?
Conference Finals MVP?
It's newsworthy.
Now, I'm not saying the media can't be a little over.
little over dramatic at times.
You'll notice this.
You know, the media tends to be really dramatic during the summer when there's fewer sports.
Actually, for seven months of the fall in the winter with football, college, and pro,
you don't have to be.
The stories create themselves, and people watch football.
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The podcast is called All Ball.
We usually talk all basketball all the time,
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and all the interesting interactions along the way.
We talk to coaches.
We talk to players.
We tell you stories.
You download it.
You listen to it.
I think you like it.
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Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
It's the end.
Enhanced games.
Some call it grotesque.
Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all,
embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
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A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care what I'm saying.
Yep, that's me.
Cliver Taylor the 4th.
You might have seen the skits, the reactions,
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Well, somewhere along the way,
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And now I'm bringing all of that excitement
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Do you remember when Diana Ross
double-tap little Kim's boobs at the VMAs?
Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.
I know what you're thinking.
What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim?
Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast.
I'm Sam J.
And I'm Alex English.
Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down,
and try to make sense of how we survived it.
Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill,
waxing all about crack in the 80s.
To be clear, 84's big to me, not just because of crack.
I'm down to talk about crack on day
but just so y'all know
I mean at this point
Mark this is the second episode
where we've discussed crack
so I'm starting to see that there's a through line
We also have AIDS on the table right now
so
Thank you finishing that sentence
I don't think there's a more important
year for black people
Really? Yeah for me it's one of the most important
years for black people in American history
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Welcome to my new podcast, Learn the Hardway with me, your host, and your favorite therapist, Kear Games.
And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests.
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Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase that we don't realize that we are in possession of the thing.
And we're still chasing it.
And we don't know when we've done enough.
Because people scoreboard watch.
Life becomes about wins and losses.
Steve Burns, Dustin Ross,
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Because that's two different intentions, bro.
Absolutely.
And that's two different levels of trust.
I want you to just really be a good person.
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Tomorrow, it's baseball night in America on Fox.
Rising Star Gunner Anderson.
Leads the Orioles against Jose Ramirez and the Guardians,
or the race take on the Astros or Giants Reds.
It all begins tomorrow at 70s turn on Fox.
Check for the game in your area.
Guardians' pretty good.
You say, say.
Guardians.
All the Guardian baseball talk.
Yankees Dodgers.
World Series.
He's back.
No, next week,
you're going to be up in the Pacific Northwest.
Phillies come to Los Angeles.
I'll be back for that.
Bryce Harper's in a terrible slump.
He's won for his last 30.
We're slump in his career,
but he's got the right mindset.
Just go up, swing hard.
Phillies are not playing well.
It's impossible to play well the whole season.
Phillies have the best team.
They're just going through the dregs of baseball season.
Dodgers will get all their guys back.
It'll be fine.
So there's going to be a big series in Los Angeles.
Yes.
So Drake May.
has been the one rookie quarterback drafted and has not been good.
But he's also young, not very polished.
This is all pretty predictable.
There's some Justin Herbert Comps.
That's what all my scouts and execs that I called said.
There's a little Justin Herbert.
Very little, apparently.
Yesterday he had a decent practice.
But Gerard Mayo, Gerard Mayo says, being a rookie's hard.
You know what it's like to be a rookie, and it's not all peaches and cream.
You probably remember this.
It's San Francisco, my rookie year.
You know, I got benched on third down.
I only played early downs because I just wasn't ready.
That was like week 10, right?
It was like week 10, week 11.
But it was a wake-up call for me to get benched.
And, you know, from there on, I was rookie of the year.
Still got benched.
So whatever we want to talk about with Drake, there will be up and downs.
Hopefully it ends on up.
By the way, apparently my take that Joe Milton, the six-round quarterback,
who is kind of his last year at Tennessee,
a touchdown machine in the best conference,
could get real snaps on this team eventually.
Apparently that was a hot take.
Let me ask you,
if I had said the day after the 2022 draft
that Brock Purdy, the 262nd pick,
would eventually replace Trey Lance,
the number three pick.
They would dump Trey Lance.
Would that have been a hot take?
Oh, it would have.
If I'd have said a year before,
Kevin Durant went to the Warriors.
I suspect Kevin Durant will leave O'KC
and go to his rival.
That too would have been a hot take.
Be careful about hot takes.
They happen all the time.
Joe Milton in the best college football
conference in the country
had 30 touchdown passes,
rushed for seven touchdowns,
and had five picks.
Passer rating through the roof completed
65% and had
easily the strongest arm
of any quarterback in this
draft. Both Josh
Heppel and Jim Harbaugh
fell in love with him. Now, he
misses open receivers.
He can be a little
very inconsistent throwing the ball,
but I'll throw this out to you.
Jacoby Brissette
has been benched
or has been injured
during a season more than once.
60 quarterbacks played
last year. And I will tell you, of all
the first round quarterbacks, Drake May
is the
least prepared to play right now
in a culture in New England
that leads heavily to the defensive
side. So if Brissette
goes down, you're telling me
Joe Milton, bigger, stronger arm,
better athlete than Drake May
potentially, wouldn't get snaps.
I don't know what's going to happen.
But the idea that it couldn't
happen, the SEC is the best football
conference. Go look at Tennessee's schedule.
Go watch the first half of Joe
Milton against Alabama.
Go watch the first half of that game.
Go watch it.
Some of you are selling me Will Levis.
I'm not sure Will Levis is better than Joe Milton.
I mean, didn't Will Levis lose to Vanderbilt?
Okay.
The academic power of the South, so slow down on this.
I just think a lot of things.
If you look at the NFL, 60 quarterbacks play.
Patriots don't have a great O line.
they've missed on several picks.
They have one of the worst O'lines,
receiving cores, running back rooms,
defensive culture.
They are not going to move the ball.
Do you think they're going to stick with Jacoby Brissette for 17 weeks?
At some point, they're going to go to a backup.
I'm just saying, could he take snaps?
Why not?
Why couldn't he take snaps?
Remember, if Brock Purdy came out and I said,
they're going to go with Purdy over Tray Lance.
That would have been outrageous, and it actually happened.
So not saying it's going to happen, but I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Jim Harbaugh and Josh Heiple, they know offense.
They both fell in love with them.
Now, he frustrated them, but, you know, some guys are developed more slowly.
I mean, he took a lot of snaps in college.
He bounced around in college.
He had a lot of great personnel guys really like him.
Misses a lot of throws, but he's a power thrower on a team that's going to struggle.
I mean, my guess is, New England will be the lowest scoring team in the NFL.
And I don't think it'll be particularly close.
You could say, Carolina, they have an offensive coach.
Well, the Giants, they have an offensive coach.
I got a rookie defensive coach and bad everywhere.
I think all three of these guys are going to play.
And Milton can be impressive.
I've watched enough of him.
You go watch half here and a half there.
I mean, Harbaugh fell in love with him.
Not for long, but he fell in love with him.
impressive thrower with the football.
By the way, Albert Breer
is going to be joining us here on a Friday.
He has been so far, these are the camps he's been to.
The Raiders, the Chargers, the Rams, the Cowboys,
the Cardinals, the Seahawks, Niners, Broncos, Packers.
Very excited for that.
Plus, it's college football.
Very excited as the Pack 12 merges into the Big Ten this year.
Jay Mack, I'm a college football addict.
You're a college basketball addict,
but you love college football.
What are, give me, if, as we head, as we head into the college footballs, practice today one, practice today one.
Give me a story.
Like I'll give you an example, Shadour Sanders, Dion Sanders.
Are you over at the, no, no, no, no.
So you're into that.
Well, mostly because of the NFL, he's going to be, if he stays on track, a top 10 pick, maybe top five.
Top five.
Well, maybe.
We'll see.
Like you said, he didn't end the season strong last year, had the injuries, had some offseason, online curfuffles.
if you will.
Yeah.
But I'm interested in that.
I'm interested in the Ohio State quarterback situation.
I like the Georgia quarterback a lot.
I see our guy, Bruce Feldman,
hyping up like the Kansas State quarterback.
Kansas State and Utah are going to battle for the Big 12.
They're both good teams.
That's what I like about college football.
Guys pop and they rise and you're like,
who is this guy where he come from?
And then you know his full story.
Then he goes to the league.
And like you said,
that's hurt the NBA.
You have this entire narrative and career arc of a quarterback.
Joe Burrough's story was amazing in college.
Couldn't crack the quarterback room at Ohio State.
Then he went to LSU and his junior year he was okay.
He was like 15 touchdown passes.
You're like, oh, this guy, eh, seventh round pick maybe, and then boom, the greatest season in college football history.
Pence, keep your eye on Shedure Sanders, back the quarterback at Georgia.
Riley Leonard, I think, is now Notre Dame.
I think he transferred from Duke to Notre Dame.
He's a little thin, a little raw.
He's a Daniel Jones-ish, which is not speaking.
Also, the kid at Penn State is very, very interesting.
Promising.
He's promising.
We'll see.
Oregon's got, Nebraska's got a quarterback, but he's a kid.
He's a Pat Mahomes look-al-like.
He's not coming out of the draft.
But Nebraska's fascinating because the quarterback for the Cornhuskers,
there's stuff all over the Internet that he actually does.
He stylistically looks like.
He's a high school kid.
He was like a five-star kid.
They got him in Nebraska.
He looks like Mahomes.
The way he throws off balance.
Mannerisms.
the shades. I mean, he basically has the
Patrick Mahomes starter kit, and he's like, okay, what do I
wear today? It comes out, and it looks
exactly like you. He does. And it's kind of
become, like, you're right, a thing, and Nebraska's
leaning into it socially, and you could see
the Chiefs, I think, are even pushing it a little bit.
And the kid is, I think he had
like an SEC commit and then decommitted
and went to the back. No, he's like, everybody in the country
wanted him. So, but there's
some really good stories. I mean, I think Texas,
Oklahoma, going to the SEC,
Texas is packed,
jam with talent, maybe next to Georgia, the best
talent in the conference. Bama's got a new
coach. I think the team
that everybody is overlooking is Oregon.
I think Oregon can go toe to toe with
anybody. Now, their NIL is
the best in college football along with Texas
and Texas A&M. So some of it is
they bought more players. Whatever, it's legal.
Fine by me. Low-key
interesting. Davos-Sweeney,
what's going on there in Clemson? He was
the toast of the town a couple
years ago. He will not use the portal.
And it's like, what are you doing?
This is an easy way to Ford
your roster and he like refuses to do it. I wonder if they have a middling year and he's on
the hot seat all of a sudden and they will do that to you. How about this? How about this first game?
LSU USC. Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley, two of the most polarizing coaches. Neither team great.
I would think LSU is favored by six or something. It's in Vegas. I like LSU to win, but I,
LSU lost Jaden Daniels. Their defense has been a mess the last couple of years. Hour two and a
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A win is a win.
A win is a win.
I don't care what I'm saying.
Yep, that's me.
Clifford Taylor the 4th.
You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey,
or my career in sports media.
Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast,
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Imagine an Olympics
where doping is not only legal
but encouraged.
It's the enhanced games.
Some call it grotesque.
Others say it's unleashing human potential.
Either way,
the podcast's superhuman
documented it all,
embedded in the games
and with the athletes
for a full year.
Within probably 10 days,
I'd put on 10 pounds.
I was having trouble
stopping the muscle growth.
Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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