The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - NFL Week 13 Takeaways

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

Colin Cowherd talks about the Bills win over the 49ers, why the Niners Super Bowl window is closed, why Mike Tomlin & Russell Wilson are a perfect marriage in Pittsburgh, who the Bears need to blame for being such a mess, and more! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox SportsRadio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to The Heard Podcast. Oh, we got a busy Monday live in Los Angeles. It's the herd. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving weekend. We are now headed down the final stretch of the NFL season. The college football season was predictively wacky.

We told you it was going to be chaos all weekend. Somehow Ohio State lost of a football team that can't pass the ball. It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. The history of that game, that was the goofiest thing. I've ever seen in my life. We'll try to get Urban Meyer on later. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, one hour from now. J. Mack, I want to start with last night.

So the Buffalo Bills, they look like eight-year-olds on the first day of snow every winter. They were having the time of their lives. And so I think what you were watching last night is the bills hammered the 49ers 35 to 10 is the champion that never was San Francisco and the potential champion that shows. be Buffalo. And the reason Buffalo should win a ringer three, Josh Allen, ran for a touchdown, threw for a touchdown, caught a touchdown, nothing he can't do. Missing a couple of top offensive performers, meh, six straight games, 30 plus points on a driving snowstorm. We've been saying this. When you get Superman, you don't want to overuse him. And for years, they didn't have a home

run hitter at running back. Now they do. They had drama at wide receiver. Now they don't. They add Kincaid, Dalton Kincaid, a great tied end. They've always had a great left tackle. They've rebuilt their offensive line. This is the best version of Buffalo, and I believe in the AFC, they've sort of separated. Baltimore, the defense special teams are reliability.

Joe Burrow has the worst defense in the last decade. Kansas City's flawed. The chargers are not dynamic enough, and the Steelers, I like them. I was wrong on the Steelers, but I don't think their ceiling is Buffalo. They are built. The bills are just, they had a ball last night.

I mean, they're the only team that plays in snow, they don't have like a heating system under it. No, that's okay. We're 6'0 at home. We're having the time of our lives. We'll lean into it. They are built for January and February football. You watch Miami go to chilly Green Bay.

They're like, can we get back on the flight home? even the uniforms, dolphins in Green Bay. It doesn't work. Buffalo's built for this stuff. You look at the dynasties of the NFL. They've been Green Bay. Right? Oh, they're Kansas City.

It's New England. It's the Baltimore. It's the Steelers. Cold weather, January, February, in a sport mostly played outdoors. Buffalo's got all the elements. A strong-armed quarterback. Don't have one of those in Miami.

The ball can get through this. A strong run game, sometimes windy. you got to just hand it off. Good old line. Tough defensive culture. Snow games generally don't do it for me, except if it's the bills. You know, it's Elvis and Vegas.

It just works. You know, it just works. And Josh Allen is your set of all-weather tires. I mean, and then you're watching them have the time of their lives. On the other side, it's San Francisco. I said a week ago, it's time to tear this puppy down. People push back. That's not true or close.

No, you're not. Christian McCaffrey hurt again. Fred Warner hurt. Trent Allen, Bosa didn't play. Folks, put up the signs. Liquidation sale. Get draft picks. The sooner San Francisco admits this puppy's over, the better. Reinforcements are not coming. Stop drafting wide receivers. Get Kyle Shanahan away from the personnel department. It ruined Bill Belichick and Bill O'Brien. And among other things, John Gruden, didn't help Pete Carroll. Get Shanahan. away from personnel. Go back to being a strong, forceful team, run first. Brock Purdy's not a guy you can rely on in January and February.

If he's got to play in cold weather or against, you know, he's not a Joe Burrow. He's not a Lema Holmes. He's not. He's not a, I don't think he's at Jalen Hertz in terms of playmaking. That's not what he is. He doesn't throw it as well as golf or move as well as Jalen Hertz than the NFC or Jordan Love. So San Francisco, the sooner they can come to terms with it, the better. you were watching last night is the champion that never was, San Francisco, and they're going

to struggle letting go with this puppy. It's over. Reinforcements aren't coming. Tear it down to the studs. And on the other side, you saw Bill's team once again dominate the AFC East. They're going to win this division as long as Josh Allen is in its prime, which is five more years, just like Brady did, and here's Josh after. This one feels a little bit different, you know, this early in the season. We still got five games left. At the same time, we're chasing the one seat. We understand that we know that, and we got to keep getting better each and every week. But it's going to be fun. I mean, to go out there and play free and play relax and play loose. I think that could be a dangerous team. A lot of sports when it comes to team sports

is taking advantage of these tiny windows. Kansas City's flawed, Baltimore and Cincinnati defense, not off to stuff. And you start looking at Pittsburgh ceiling. This is the year for Buffalo. They're mostly healthy. They could get the number one seed.

They've got a superstar quarterback, good front office, no chaos in coaching. And they've had a little bit of that in the coordinator head coaching space. This feels like the year for the bills. I want to talk about this next. The Steelers beat the Bengals

4438. So for years and years, I defended Russell Wilson. I think everybody liked him. Let Russ Cook. And then it ended poorly. Then he went to Denver. It was a bit of a mess. He and Sean Payton, personalities clashed. He went to Pittsburgh. And my take was, I think the players are going to like Justin Fields more. Young,

relatable, athletic. But the one thing that Steelers haven't been, and I mean even in the Big Ben days, Big Ben prime days. They've always been loose, a little overly dramatic, loud, and undisciplined, offensively. And Mike Tomlin needed Russell Wilson. And frankly, Russell Wilson needed Mike Tomlin,

a head coach that isn't looking over his shoulder in the meeting rooms. Mike lets offense do offense. And I don't know if this team Pittsburgh is going to beat Philly in two weeks or Baltimore and three, but Tomlin and Russell Wilson are perfect. Russell is the adult in the room for an offense that's desperately needed that for years. He's focused, he's driven, he's aspirational, he's grateful, he's serious, he's disciplined, he doesn't turn the ball over and defensive coaches like that. And here's the thing. Both Tomlin and Russell Wilson have trophies, have healthy confidence, I think they're good people, both got humbled.

Tomlin kept hearing, bro, you can't win playoff games. Brady Manning, Mike Tomlin had to look himself in the mirror and go, you know what? I got to get a grown-up to run this offense. And Justin Fields had a winning record. He pulled him out, gave it to Russ. Tomlin got nothing but crap, and he was right. He was right. He's like, I need a senior statesman.

And by the way, Russell Wilson figured out in Denver, you know what? I'm probably going to be a complimentary piece. I can't be the savior for football teams. So before Russell Wilson arrived, the last several years with Pittsburgh, there was one way to win. Create turnovers, mostly low scoring, played really well as an underdog, not necessarily as a favorite. 4438 wins over Joe Burrow were not available to this franchise the last several years.

And now they are. So there's multiple ways to win. And I mean, in my entire life, every really great Steeler team has had two things. A great tough defense and a quarterback that could beat you over the top. from Terry Bradshaw to Big Ben, and that is Russell Wilson's primary asset. Now at his age, he'll beat you down the field.

And the last time the Steelers finished in the top 10 in the offense, Andrew Luck was starting for the Colts. So it has been a while where they had a quarterback that would couple with a defense and a Mike Tomlin and a Chuck Knoll or a Bill Cower that could burn you if you weren't honest. And it gives the Steelers now multiple ones. ways to win. And Mike Tomlin and Russell Wilson, there's no clash of personalities. Sean Payton sees offense a certain way. Russell didn't play it that way. Clash.

Right? And then Russell saw the world a certain way, and by the end, Pete Carroll didn't. The Tomlin Russell thing works. Here's the coach after. Thought our group, you know, smiled in the face of it, particularly Russ. You know, it's the first time for him. going through this AFC North football and I thought he acclimated himself to a well today. He put himself squarely in the history of these series and this series with that performance today, man, and we're thankful for it.

I'll tell you there was a moment after the game. It was one of those in the hallway gestures where Tomlin grabbed Russ and gave him a hug and you could really see the affection. Tomlin understands. And this has been Pittsburgh even during the Big Bend days. is Mike is a very emotional coach. His Steelers are tough, physical, they're emotional.

And sometimes with young players, you know, you got to have a grown-up on the offensive side because Mike will monitor the defensive side. But it's always been the offense and you're like, you're a little noisy, you're a little loud, you're a lot buttoned up. And that's what Russ brings. Disciplined, focus, grown-up, grateful, aspirational, driven. That's exactly.

what they needed and the fit works. I didn't think it did. I didn't think it would. It does. So Jay Mack, Matt Hasselbeck in one hour, Colin Wright, Colin wrong. I still, I'm going to talk about Ohio State, Michigan, among other things later this.

I still think I'll say this. I'll throw it out there. Ohio State, I still think, has a strong chance to end up in the national championship against Texas. I really believe that. Yeah, sure. I honestly do.

Anything's possible. I pick Tennessee before the season. So I'll just say, Tennessee was my pick before the season. Halfway through the season, I look to be off course. Keep your eye on the balls. What happens if Penn State beats Oregon, Colin? And I don't know, Georgia shocks Texas.

Is Penn State the number one seed? That's insane. Collins football right now is bonkers. Just makes no sense. Well, you know what? It's interesting because you and I both love it. The Transfer Portal and the NIL have created something, and I'm not sure any of us saw it.

is that none of these big brands have any depth. Because if you're a five-star player and you go to an Ohio state, a Georgia, you go to a Bama, you go to a Notre Dame, and if you're not playing by your sophomore year, because there's some NFL first rounder ahead of you, you'll get cherry-picked to go somewhere else. Oregon will come pluck, Washington, Michigan will come pluck, Michigan State, whoever. And so what you're finding is an injury can be decimating to a top.

brand. It used to be five-star guy out, five-star guy up. But you're finding is these big-time teams, and I'm talking to Texas, the Penn States, they don't have the depth over a two-year period. Those big dogs are getting cherry-picked because everybody's got NIL money now. I mean, Georgia doesn't have any depth of them. None. I mean, they had Bowers and Mankke, who are now in the NFL crushing. They have nothing now. I mean, I thought they were going to lose to Georgia Tech. That was crazy was that game. I mean, college football is off the rails right now. It is. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app.

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So they lost again. There's three things. First of all, Justin Tucker, who was the best kicker, arguably ever, and for about a 10-year run, is now a liability. Missed three different kicks. Number two, the Ravens have lost to some really good teams. Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Kansas City. And number three is, once you pay your quarterback of fortune, your first. you're not going to be great everywhere.

Kansas City's tackles right now are bad, offensive tackles. Chargers, they don't have any dynamic wideouts. Baltimore, it's the defense and special teams. They're very good, but they're not exceptional. And, you know, you start missing three kicks in a game like that against the great Philadelphia team. That is ball game. It's not Lamar Jackson.

He's number one in the NFL in passer rating. Number two in touchdown passes. Number one and best athlete that plays the position. it's not a Lamar Jackson issue. But when you play Philadelphia, you cannot miss kicks. I mean, Baltimore with Lamar Jackson had more first downs, was better on third down, had more passing yards, had fewer penalties, and dominated time of possession. It's not a Lamar Jackson issue.

It's a very unbalanced team. Okay. And the Ravens' offense is creative and it's dynamic and it distracts us from the truth. Their kicker now is a liability and in big close games. You can't have it. And all their losses, by the way, all of them are one possession losses. Listen to this. If you take Baltimore's five losses, they've lost by a total of 22 points.

In those five losses, Justin Tucker has missed 22 points of kicks. And so when you get into the better AFC teams, the margins are inches, not feet. Whereas the Chiefs tend to make the big third down offensive play, the Ravens miss the kick or have a penalty. So Baltimore is riveting to watch, but they're a very inconsistent team. And because they're not as reliable with special teams or defense, and Joe Burroughs finding this out, that puts more pressure on the quarterback. And Lamar's having a remarkable year. Burroughs having a remarkable year.

You can't do it by yourself. And I feel like Lamar now there's more pressure to be brilliant. Justin Tucker's a Hall of Famer, a first ballot, the best kicker arguably ever. but he's mid-30s now. And whatever out of your prime is for a kicker, I have no idea. It's not working, and here's the coach after. He's definitely capable of making every kick.

And, you know, we need him to make those kicks. Nobody wants to make them more than Justin. If you're asking me, we're going to move out from Justin Tucker. I'm not really planning on doing that right now. Yeah, again, it's a little late for it. And he's not shanking him, but he's missing the pups. consistently. And he made him forever. And, you know, they got a trophy because of it. But it's when you are playing in the AFC, at the top of the AFC, that is the difference.

Kansas City's ability to make third downs and Baltimore's inability to hit clutch kicks, that's the difference between winning streaks and losing several games. Here's JMAQ with the news. This is the herd line news. Sadly, I'm wearing green because the Jets lost and we have to start with them, Colin. The New York Jets are a train wreck. As we've been saying all season, Aaron Rogers was quite bad. I would believe he cost them the game, but we can get to that in a second. Here's the big story.

According to Ian Rappaport, Aaron Rogers is considered a long shot to return to the Jets next season, to which I say, thank goodness. Interim head coach Jeff Obrick just announced that they will not be benching Rogers this week. He will start against Miami. The team even tweeted out a happy birthday message to Rogers who turned 41. He's owed a $35 million

option bonus if the Jets decided to bring him back. Well, he's never been a foxhole guy. I always felt he was Jay Cutler with more talent, is that when you're winning with him, it's great, but if it's mid or you're losing, he's not good in the locker room, and people will rush to defend him. But even after the game,

nobody finds a scapegoat other than themselves better than Aaron. Aaron missed a wide open Garrett Wilson in the end zone, and it's 28-7 the game's over. Couple plays later, pick six other way. So it's like that game was on Aaron. 287, Seattle was not coming back. D.K. Metcalf was being shut down by Sauce Gardner. Like it was the Jets. It was really the day to win.

And so this was on Aaron. This was a bad performance. Again, you can have pick sixes. When Kirk Cousins has him, we make sure and shout he's washed. When Aaron has him, we defend him. But I'm watching the same thing you are. He is now inaccurate. He's an inaccurate.

If I told you Donald or Aaron, it's not close. Okay. Let me level up to another one, and we'll get to him shortly. But let's just say the Falcons have had enough of Kirk Couss, who looks about as washed as Aaron Rogers. And let's say the Falcons move on the same way the Broncos moved on for Russell Wilson. Who would you rather have Aaron Ruggins? Rogers next year. Let's say you're the Raiders or whatever you're picking 10th.

Rogers, Darnold, or Cousins. Because I don't even know if Rogers is two. He might be three out of all those two guys. Well, I think it's Darnold number one and then draft somebody. I don't think you want to inherit those contracts. Aaron's expensive now. He's expensive. And not mobile and prickly and losing. Yeah, he's going to come into your locker room like thinking he's the man. It's over for Rogers. And I know, I know a lot of people who watch this show are going to be like, but Jason, you see. I said, yeah, I said a lot of stuff in the offseason. I was excited. I was optimistic.

You acknowledge you're a huge Jets fan. I get it. And I was way wrong. Listen, Brice Hall is tied to career high for fumbles. He has not been great. Rogers missing everything. There's a couple bright spots. Will McDonald, a double-digit sacks?

But they stay. They now are at the longest drought in the NFL. Nine years, no playoffs, call it. Nine years. I still remember the last one. It was Mark Sanchez in that playoff game against Steelers. I still remember where I was watching that. Like they just needed one stop.

Couldn't get it. And I personally think Rogers is done in the NFL. I don't think he has a big market. It may be one team. Yeah. Let's go to the Kansas City Chiefs. Oh, geez, Black Friday. They got lucky.

Once again, that's what they do. They get lucky. The lucky Chiefs, as you see, Aidan O'Connell has a snap go off his shoulder. Maybe you should pay attention. In the final 20 seconds, rookie center, I believe. And the ball kicked Chiefs recover. Raiders played 10 rookies. I'll give the Raiders credit.

He plays so hard. Kansas City has won 14 straight. One score games. 14. I don't know if that's an NFL record, but it's got to be up there. I saw a stat that since 2000, I guess a lot of teams,

there's like 21 teams that have got 11 wins by week 13. And the Chiefs had the worst point differential of all those 21 teams. This is not a great Kansas City Chiefs team. No, no, no. They get lucky almost every week. No, Detroit, Philadelphia, Buffalo look better.

And I think her deeper teams. I think the Baltimore Ravens look better. I mean, they get a kicker. I don't try. Listen, San Francisco's special teams in the tank this year, they lost two games they should have won. Baltimore's lost three games they should have won. Neutral site, Green Bay or the Chiefs. Yeah, that's what I thought.

Kansas City. Oh. I trust him in a big spot. Casey has veteran leadership. Green Bay has youthful leadership. I would take the Chiefs. Chargers chiefs this week, but the Chargers are walking wounded, man. Dobbins on the IR.

I don't know. There's a report that Hollywood Brown could return, which would be a shot in the arm. Kansas City is going to be a better offensive version of last year, but a weaker defensive version. You can move the ball on them. How were they better with no Rishi Rice? Because Xavier Worthy, deep threat. They now have a second tight end. Now they have two running backs they like.

Now, their issues offensive tackle. They're bad at tackle. Humphreys. It sounds like he's probably going to start coming off the street. Listen, I'm just saying when the Chiefs lose in January, because they will, he's going to be a celebration on the show. I will come here with bells. I wouldn't hold your breath on me. They're not going to the Super Bowl, Colin.

Final story. Oh, Kirk Cousins. This was the spot of spots for the Falcons. And Kirk Cousins vomited all over himself. Four interceptions, including a pick six that, I mean, there's no velocity on that. at all? No, he is now. He looked. I mean, it was like arm fatigue. He looks like a shot fighter right now. No movement at all. He's now gone three straight games without a touchdown of first in his career. And he actually said he needs to step up and play better. I look to myself and say, I got to play better. You know, it hurts when you feel like your defense play winning football. I feel like your special teams made big plays. I felt like, you know, run game did a solid job. I got to play better. And, you know, I need to. play at a level that, you know, justifies being out there.

And so that's the way I'll always view it. I will say this, and you've seen this. Aaron Rogers gotten worse since the season started. Kirk Cousins gotten worse. I think these guys worked really hard in rehab, and I think they're old fighters, and we're getting to the eighth and ninth round. Cousins looked tired.

Aaron Rogers' first half to second looked tired. He had no pop. And I think these, I mean, a couple of throwers, by Kirk Cousins. I mean, it looked like a fastball in a major league old pitcher that was like 84 miles an hour. Maybe slower than that. I mean, it was just painful to watch. The Chargers did not cross midfield in the second half. They only had 187 total yards. How did they, McConkey left injured? They had nobody. Well, the Chargers are winning games they lost last year just on sheer coaching and smart, efficient quarterback play and a tough defense. But all these games were losses

last year and they're winning them due to Harbaugh and Jesse Minter. I'm sure you saw that You know, Dobbins is on IR. Haskins, it gets a shot to replace it. First carry fumble. Yeah, I know. Benj did not get another carry. I mean, Harbaugh's not going to put up with that. I mean, I don't know, man.

I don't know if the Chargers are good. They're just so banged up. Denver plays tonight, Monday Night Football, at home against Cleveland. Denver's defense is not quite as good as the Chargers, but their offense is more dynamic. They've got, I think they have better tight ends and wide receivers and running backs. They're facing a real defense tonight. Okay, watch Denver tonight.

That offense is pretty spicy. So a few weeks ago, the Broncos were shut out for three quarters against the Chargers at home. And then they put up garbage time stats that got you excited. We'll talk about Monday at football later, but I don't know what to make. Remember, Falcons, Colin, we're six and three. This is a team to beat the Eagles in, I think, week two. And cousins every week. He's killing.

He looks. You've got to give Pennicks and first team reps. Oh, absolutely. I would start to. I would have to. I would have no. problem starting panics now. By the way, go back to Lamar Jackson's first year. Joe Flacco started struggling. They were going to sit Lamar Jackson. Week 11, Lamar, go out. That's a good call. And so all of a sudden, Kirk Cousins, a proud veteran like Flacco, you know, he starts to struggle,

put in penics. Great O line, nice weapons. You don't have to ask penics to throw 48 times a game. Atlanta's got a better. Bejohn had 100 yards on the ground. Absolutely. This is a perfect time. I like Drake London, by the way. He catches everything. Yeah, he's got some. He's really. He's better than Pitts. I don't know if he's a one, but he's a really... He's like the T. Higgins. If he's the best two in the league, or he's a 1-A-ish, but he's really good. McLeod show. Like, they had guys making plays, and I don't know how you look at Kirk Cousins after that law. If you're in that locker room, I mean, he costs him games. Yeah, and he's a guy everybody likes, but it's, that was a tough watch.

Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. So they call it the game, Ohio State, Michigan. I don't care what anybody says. says that's the worst loss for Ohio State in the history of that matchup. They lost at home to a walk-on quarterback

in Michigan, a team that can't throw the forward pass that was missing two of their stars. And so Michigan for the last four seasons, this game has always been about physicality. Whichever team has the most rushing yards has won

this game 23 straight years. And the last four, it's been Michigan. So Ohio State spent almost four hours trying to prove they could win that way, which is not what they are. They're pretty. They're more finesse. They have unbelievable wide receivers. So Ryan Day is super sensitive to this narrative that Ohio State under Ryan Day is finesse and they're soft and they lack toughness.

And he does not like that at all. But get over it. When you're a head coach, it's about winning. you have to be able to block out the media and the noise and not worry about the aesthetics. Coordinator sometimes a defensive coordinator, he's looking to pat a resume, he wants sacks, offensive coordinator wants to be clever.

A head coach is there to say it's about winning the game, it is about using our best players to win the game. Ohio State's got good running backs. They have unbelievable wide receivers and a more than capable head coach. They went into that game to prove a point. Michigan just played Michigan football. We can't pass. We're going to be the more physical team.

So Ohio State's a better team. But this was Ryan Day, who has shown he's very sensitive. He clapped back at Lou Holtz. Remember that when Lou Holtz questioned their toughness? and he was more worried about looking a certain way than just playing the game he should have played. This was Ryan Day responding to Lou Holtz after they beat Notre Dame last year

when Holtz called the Buckeye Soft. Remember that? Toughness. Toughness. That's it. Physicality, cross the board, finish it off, having guts. I like to know where Lou Holtz is right now. What he said about our team, what he said about our team, I cannot believe. This is a tough team right here.

We're proud to be from Ohio. And it's always been Ohio against the world. It'll continue to be Ohio against the world. But I'll tell you what. Lou Hulse is like 90. Who cares? He's a commentator now. Who cares?

You can't worry about that stuff. I honestly watched that game and I'm like, oh, Ryan Day is trying to prove a point. And what's happened to Ohio State, I still think they can get to the national championship. I think they would probably lose to Texas. But I think they can beat anybody and maybe Texas. I'm not bailing on it.

I'm not firing Ryan Day. He's too good of a coach. But you've got to get as a head coach. They become Kentucky basketball. Kentucky basketball did everything right except when in March. Everything else they were great at getting publicity, recruiting, the NIL, the transfer portal, developing players for the NBA. Kentucky did everything right under John Kailapari except win in March.

And Ohio State does virtually everything right with Ryan Day, except beat Michigan and win bowl games. They do everything else well. NIL, their collectives huge. They use the transfer portal. They have, I mean, they win a lot of games. But head coaches are not about proving points. Who cares what Lou Holtz says? I mean, it's like, you know, it would be one thing if you were playing Lou Holtz the following week.

But Michigan has limitations, by the way, this year. They won't have them next year. They just signed the top quarterback at a high school football. and they're loading up. This was the year to beat Michigan. I watched Michigan play six times. They were hard to watch. I mean, like, Michigan's like,

I'm going to turn to the Western Kentucky game. It's more dynamic. For them to win that game in Columbus is, I still can't, it's unbelievable. But a head coach's job is not to win arguments. It's to win games. It's not to prove a point. It's to prove you're better.

And I thought it was a bad game plan. I just, nothing about it smelled right or felt right. And that game now goes back to Michigan. And they've loaded up last two years with recruits. And they have the number one high school quarterback in the country. This was the year to get them. Wild. Wild weekend.

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I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking I'm originally. calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.

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Listen to Saigon on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Friday night on Fox, it's a fight for the Mountain West Conference Crown. As 22nd ranked UNLV takes on Heisman Contender Ashton Genty, and 11th ranked Boise State. Coverage begins Friday at 7 Eastern on 5. You know, all the years of doing this, one of the things I've noticed about media companies, politicians, political parties in sports and sports teams is some teams, and this is poor ownership or management, do not have the ability to see problems on the horizon. And when you watch the Bears and Matt Eberfluse and this mess of coaching,

it all could have been avoided. And remember before the draft, I had said on the air, I believe Caleb Williams and his party are concerned about ending up in Chicago. Now, he came out the next day and said, that's not true. It's not true. I just saw Caleb this weekend. Seems happy. Saw his dad.

But there were concerns, and these are the concerns. So let's see. You had a losing defensive head coach. Here comes Caleb Williams. Maybe hire Cliff Kingsbury, his offensive coordinator, who wanted the job. Nope. They pass on him for Shane Waldron, who when he got moved out of Seattle, Seahawk players were highly critical of. They didn't do their homework. All they had to do is make a couple of calls. The players wanted him out in Seattle. He bombs in Chicago.

So now you have a defensive coach going on the hot seat day one. You saw it coming. Hot seat day one in a division with excellent offensive coaches. Matt Lafleur, Kevin O'Connell, Dan Campbell, and Ben Johnson in an offensive league. They should have hired Jim Harbaugh. They couldn't because Harbaugh doesn't like Kevin Warren, the president of the Bears who used to run the Big Ten. They don't get along. The owners, the McCaskies, are the poorest and the oldest in the NFL. The McCaskies, what do you know when they were looking for a coach leaned on 80-year-old Bill Polion, who I like?

He's a Hall of Famer. But he is not in the culture of the NFL right now. That's a different time in the NFL. It's an offensive league. So the McCaskies are so old-fashioned. I'm not joking here. They would not allow swearing when the bears were on hard knocks. So it was a lot of malarkey, as they say.

So they just have no sense of, they're still clinging to the 85 bears. They have no real sense of the new league. And this is what Caleb Williams privately, everybody was like, can they get it right? the Chicago Bears are a tornado of dysfunction. I mean, the world's going to AI. They're still clinging to AOL. It doesn't work. And I just don't know.

And this division is so good, and the coaching with LaFleurl and Kevin O'Connell and Dan Campbell is so dynamic and so smart. I mean, this team won seven games last year. They upgraded at quarterback, running back, tight end, and wide receiver, and got worse. And so I don't think there's an easy answer. answer on this stuff. You know, I said this when Al Davis got old the last decade for the Raiders. Raiders fans would go, how do you think we're going to be? And I used to tell them, you will not have a chance to be good. Al Davis is going to block any chance for optimism. The Cincinnati Bengals right now, the Brown family, it's dysfunctional. Joe Burrow can only do so much. And so I feel

with Caleb Williams, this is why I would support an Eli Manning or a John Elway or a Caleb Williams and say, you haven't proven the ability. I mean, this franchise has never had a 4,000-yard quarterback. That's insane. I didn't even make sense. So I wish there was an easy answer. What would I do? I would go get an offensive coach.

Now, Marcus Freeman is the coach at Notre Dame. Good looking young guy, culture, great recruiter. He's got a real presence. I think Marcus Freeman's interesting. That's not who I would hire. In fact, I wouldn't leave Notre Dame for the Bears. job. I wouldn't do it. Notre Dame's a great job. Marcus Freeman could be there for a decade. He's got a beautiful family. He's, you know, he's changing the lives of kids. Notre Dame's a great

academic powerhouse and a football, you know, iconic football. I wouldn't leave the Notre Dame job for that job. Jim Harbaugh could have had it. No thanks. So it's not a good job. It's like the Jets. It's better than the Jets because they have Caleb Williams. That's it. They both, Jets and Bears both have good defensive players. They both have dysfunction. and ownership. Those are just not good jobs. So what happens is coaches talk and people, I was just out this weekend talking to an NFL general manager

that was in Los Angeles for the weekend. And he's like, listen, man, Mike Vrabel's not taking every job. He's not desperate. He made a lot of money. Bill Belichick's not taking every job. Last year, Jim Harbaugh was interested in one job, the one that had Justin Herbert. That's the only job he wanted.

you got to be able to see problems before they arrive. That's what a good general manager does or a good owner or a good business or a CEO, a good political party. We've got a problem. You've got to see it six months out. That's why these managers in every company are in meetings all day to figure out what's the next roadblock, what's the next flare, what's the next problem. So I just don't have high hopes here.

I think Caleb's remarkably talented. but, I mean, and by the way, Washington cleaned house, ownership down. Right now, let's look at the playoff picture. Washington's going to make the playoffs. They have a buy, and then they're going to play the awful saints. So they're going to have nine wins. So if you look at the NFC playoff picture, Washington was the Bears. And they're like, ownership, GM, coach, coordinator, quarterback,

they went all in and changed it. The McCaskies aren't selling it. They've owned that thing since the 20s. I'm not joking, since 1920s. So it's a tough situation. Let's go look at that NFC playoff again because I want to talk about this. The playoff picture, so the NFC, I don't see. The only change here is the NFC South with Atlanta.

So Atlanta's beaten Tampa twice. But I think Detroit, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Green Bay, and Washington are in. Seattle, Rams, Arizona, still up for grabs. Atlanta, Tampa with Kirk Cousins now, I don't know how this is going to end. I picked the Falcons to win it. If you go to the AFC playoff picture, I think it's set in stone. First of all, Kansas City, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Set in Stone. Houston is getting healthier.

They're fine. Chargers, Ravens, Broncos feel like playoff teams. I mean, give me a break on Miami. Was that lost to Green Bay, the most predictable loss of the season? I mean, if you only bet one game all year, it should have been that game. Miami going into cold weather. I like Anthony Richardson and the Colts. I like the roster.

but Anthony, you can't get into a shootout. They are limited as a team throwing the football with Anthony Richardson at this point in his career. So I think if Denver wins tonight at home against Cleveland, I think this is going to be the AFC playoffs. And I think you're going to find some of the teams down the stretch will be resting people. But I mean, now underdogs did very well. They had a fight this weekend. You don't, you know, there can be soft tanking.

But I think Kansas City, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Texans, Chargers, Baltimore, Buffalo, Denver, those are the playoff team. NFC, I don't trust the Seahawks, although they keep winning. They keep winning these games. And Atlanta is, I think Tampa's got better players. I'm not going to make any prediction on the NFC South. I don't really like any of them right now.

And that's where we are right now. Wild. Hey, can we go back to the Bears situation for a second? So I'm going to rattle off the last few coaches the Bears have had. Okay? Matt Ibrose went 14 and 32. Inexpensive. Matt Nagy.

Cheap. John Fox. Mark Tressman. Lovie Smith was the last guy to have success. Yeah, Lovie had success. What the Bears lack is a culture and a philosophy. We don't know what they are. Like, it's obvious they play outdoors in Chicago.

They should go back to being a smash-mouth team. We mentioned him last week on the show. I said, keep an eye on this guy. He's coaching in college. I like what he's doing. He's instilling a philosophy at Notre Dame, and his name is Freeman. and he is, I think, a lights out coach. Now, you told me yesterday, you heard over the weekend that Freeman's name's being bandied about.

I think the Kingsbury stuff is just obvious people connecting Kingsbury to Caleb. I think Marcus Freeman and the Bears make a whole lot of sense. Colin, if you look at this Notre Dame team, they know what they are. Against USC, did you say that? Hand off the football, we're going to run it down your throat. They had like 250 yards on the ground in the third quarter. Yeah. Like, they know what they are, and the Bears, I don't think know what they are.

I think Freeman would be a home run higher. So Kevin Warren just said this on Chicago's head coaching search. This will be the most coveted job in the NFL this year. Right now it is. Well, they have the best quarterback. But just no. There's a lot of talent, man. Skill positions, they've got guys.

Defense, they got some dudes. They just lack like end-gain situations have been a nightmare. They've frittered away at least three games. The one that I think is the super sleeper, if you're looking for a super sleeper, is Jacksonville, where maybe. They say, hey, we just lucked into Shudor Sanders. Let's go after Dion and let's move on from Trevor Lawrence. I can see that.

I try to trade Trevor Lawrence. Well, if I was Trevor Lawrence, I wouldn't mind being moved on from. I would have no problem restarting. They can't protect him. You could get a haul for Trevor Lawrence. Oh, you'd get two number ones easier. Two, two first round picks. Yeah, yeah.

You could get, if you're the Raiders, if you're the Raiders, you have to strongly consider that. And Shadour and Deon go back to Florida. No problem with it. I have no problem with that at all. Colin right, Colin wrong. Matt Hasselback. Next. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.

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