The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Nike and LeBron Overstepping, Josh Allen is Underrated

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

Jaylen Brown not being on the US men's team and Bronny James being drafted was a misuse of powerForget the QB list, Josh Allen is highly underrated Knicks owner James Dolan appears to be a huge fan of Julius Randle even though the Knicks were playing better without himSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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about always using it because people keep track we'll start the show talking about the misuse of power not the abuse of power I don't think it rises to abuse but it's arguably misuse so Jalen Brown doubled down on his Nike theory which is the reason he is not on the Olympic basketball team is because of Nike I think he's right right. It should be noted, he's the best player in the league, not on the team. He's not a Nike guy. Kyrie Irving's the second best player in the league, not on the team. He got dropped by Nike in 2022. I don't think it's a coincidence. Nike right now has a leadership issue, and I was in Beaverton, Oregon this weekend, going to the zoo, not Nike, in Portland. They butchered

the Major League Baseball jerseys. It's as bad a gap. as I've ever seen in my life on jerseys by a sports apparel company. And Nike usually gets it right. Their stock is down 33% in six months. Phil Knight is now 86. He's a visionary and a brilliant man, but he acknowledges he is all in on Oregon football, winning them a natty in the NIL. And now they have the Olympic mess.

It feels like there's a leadership issue as Phil Knight ages. This happens all the time in corporate America. There has always been this very tricky dance by Nike and sports apparel companies. You want to use the velvet hammer, not the sledgehammer. You have massive power in college and professional sports. You don't want to abuse it. And I don't think this rises to abuse of power. It's the Olympics.

It gets political. It was political. MJ and Isaiah Thomas. But it does feel like an overstay. an overreach by Nike. Jalen Brown not being on the team is ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. The finals of the MVP, MVP of the finals and the Eastern Conference finals.

He's a tremendous basketball player. Nike, a misuse of power. The second misuse of power we have seen this week, LeBron James, and Clutch Sports. They engineered Brony getting drafted with a number 55,000. pick. Now, it was a terrible draft, and anybody drafted there was going to be a G-leager at best. But Brony offensively doesn't even look like a G-leger. It's been embarrassing. He's 0 for 14 on threes. He was bad again last night. Now, I do think athletically, he can be a defender in this league. Maybe. But he would not have been drafted, if not for LeBron James and Clutch Sport.

in a good draft, can't draft him. This team, the Lakers, can't really waste draft picks. But they do need on-ball defenders. They're old in spots, expensive in others. He's cheap and can defend. That I don't deny. But in both the case of Nike and the case of LeBron James, they had power, power can corrupt,

men tend to flex anytime they have power. They use it, misuse it or abuse it. This classifies as misusing it. And this is the classic dad, the classic parent, trying to muscle his kid to get a job that he didn't really earn. And kind of getting in the way the natural flow of life. Usurping somebody, getting power, jamming a kid in. You know how many times I've been asked, hey, can you get my son, my daughter, a job at blankety, blank, blank. And my answer is always, I can get him an internship maybe.

I can't get him a job. They're not qualified. It hurts. It's painful. It's the truth. So both Nike, Clutch Sports and LeBron, had leverage. And in my opinion, this is the downside to it. Brawny's been sort of embarrassing so far.

Now, the Lakers are in a position where the new coach, J.J. Reddick, now has to go to the microphone and tap dance to make sure he says all the right. things about brawny he's a development player that's how we're looking at brawny he's certainly going to spend time with the lakers he will spend time as well uh in the g league we're going to develop his shot we'll develop his ball skills he's already got a great feel he has a really good uh instinctive nature on the defensive end okay that's a good way of saying he can't shoot be careful when you accumulate power how you use you use it. Just because you have it, sometimes it's best to let the natural flow of business work.

Just let things play out as they would without your power. So I have joked kind of sort of not really that I do think if I didn't do this for the living, the broadcasting thing, and I would have spent the last 30 years trying to be an NFL executive, not broadcasting, I just started going toward the NFL, I think I'd be a pretty good executive. I know I would not have drafted Jamarcus Russell, Johnny Mansell,

Daniel Jones, Zach Wilson, Tim Tebow in the first round. I would have drafted Sam Darnold, though, and he may still have something. But one of the reasons I think this is I hear things all the time around the NFL, and it sounds like they're coming from unsirious people.

Here's the latest. an NFL executive rips Josh Allen. One of the more overrated players makes a lot of mistakes. Oh, good God. Somebody seriously said that. So I have a theory on life. Would you ever tell your kids in life, hey Johnny, hey Susie, play it safe.

Don't make mistakes. Don't take any big swings. And if you do make a mistake, punish yourself. Life's about being perfect. No, it's not. Life's about being a playmaker and taking swings. And it's okay whether you're an artist or a quarterback or a point guard to have turnovers. Josh Allen is transformative.

He's won his division four straight years. And in those four years, he has the most touchdowns ever by any player in the history of the sport, even more than Patrick Mahomes. Until last season, he had no run game, no consistent run game. outside of left tackle, the offensive line's been a revolving door of players, and for the record, he's on his third offensive coordinator in seven years. But Josh Allen doesn't play it safe. Patrick Mahalm sometimes throws it left-handed or sidearm. You want to know who also had a lot of interceptions?

Peyton Manning and Brett Fav and John Elway and Dan Marino and Joe Namath and Josh Allen. Point guards, business people, politicians, quarterbacks. Don't play it safe. You're not just distributors of messages. You're playmakers. The greatest quarterbacks, many of them. Brady's an exception. Mahomes, a little bit too, have thrown lots of picks.

I think the issue with Josh Allen is, there are two defensive coaches in this sport that are very good. Mike Tomlin and Sean McDermott. The latter is Josh's coach. And both those coaches have struggled, developing consistent run games, hiring the right offensive coordinator, and getting the O lines right. Both of them. Offensive coaches speak a different language.

That's why it's such an advantage for Mahomes or Joe Burrow, or initially Kyler Murray, or Tua that went from Brian Flores to Mike McDaniel. The defensive coach benched to a. The offensive coach made him a pro bowler. DAC, O-line, run game, Jason Garrett. It's such an advantage to have, it's a different language, an offensive coach when especially you're a young quarterback. You're making mistakes.

You need to be refined. Josh Allen needed Brian Daible. You think Daniel Jones makes the playoffs without Brian Daibble? So this is not about mistakes. This is a quarterback that's overcome no run game, revolving door offensive line, third different coordinator, and a defensive coach who is not a bad coach, but like Mike Tomlin, doesn't have a great feel for offensive elements of the game.

Sean McVey and Andy Reid have rebuilt offensive lines in one off season. The Steelers are still trying to get theirs right over the last six years. But this goes back to a fundamental belief. What an awful thing you could tell your kids in life is to play it safe. Don't elevate others. Don't take big swings. Be paralyzed by any mistake. The great point guards, the great quarterbacks, the great politicians,

the great business people, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos. often talk about the value of going for it, the process of learning from mistakes. Yes, Josh Allen throws some ugly picks, but over the four years that he's won the division, he's the most productive player in the history of the sport. And some knucklehead is saying, you know, that guy's overrated. I'd argue he's underrated. He just doesn't quite have all the. elements offensively that you need to beat maybe the greatest quarterback Patrick Mahomes

and the greatest coach arguably Andy Reid of all time. It's Phil Mickelson playing in Tigers Prime. It's Akeem Olajuwon playing in Jordan's Prime. He won when Michael left. Part of Josh Allen's issue, Andy Reid and Mahomes may go down as the greatest quarterback coach combo in league history. Brady Belichick were, and it kept Peyton Manning out of a lot of Super Bowls. That was not a knock on Peyton Manning.

It was a reality on Brady and Belichick. All fight, I'll die on this hill. Josh Allen to this point, the criticism is silly. He's underrated. If you redrafted everybody in this league, Mahomes won, Josh Allen, two. Those would be the first two picks. There would be no defensive players, no special teams players, No wide receivers.

You could draft today. Burrow wouldn't get picked injuries. Lamar wouldn't get picked playoff success, lack of it. If you redrafted every guy in this league today, it would be number one Mahomes and number two, Alan. And the only reason Mahomes would be drafted over Allen, if you redrafted, there'd be pressure to take him because he's got all the trophies, and Alan doesn't.

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podcasts. So, you know, for years and years, the Knicks ran through players and coaches and executives. But the real issue with James Dolan, he was a meddler, and we've seen this with the Dallas Cowboys, the vanity of Jerry Jones. When Jerry didn't have a great say with Jimmy Johnson, they were winning Super Bowls. When Jimmy got pushed back from Bill Parcells, they rebuilt this puppy. But then Jerry hires coaches that need him. that wouldn't get head coaching opportunities elsewhere. Mike McCarthy was on the beach, you know, Chan Gaylee, solid coaches, probably they feel like they owe Jerry.

And then Jerry can again use the hammer and his power and be the de facto general manager, and that's not what he should be or he's capable of being. He's not that guy. And it's why I think they tend to overpay the wrong players, overpay early and miss on some draft picks. I think the Cowboys can win games in a wonky division and a weaker NFC. I don't believe they'd be a consistent playoff team in the AFC, right? That's my take is that it helps that they're in a division with poorly run Washington and New York

and a little up and down Philadelphia. That helps. Put them in a division over there with the Bengals and maybe the Ravens and the Steelers and now Cleveland's loaded. I don't think they'd be a playoff team. But this story is worrisome because the last two years, James Dolan has been very busy.

He's a music guy. He's in a band, loves music, building the sphere. It's been about a five-year project, but the last two or three until it was finalized, James Dolan was sidetracked. And the Knicks front office was excellent. Excellent at drafting, acquisition, player development with Tibbs and the guys in the front office.

This story is very concerning. The sphere is finished. And now James Dolan, now he's back to the Knicks. According to the athletics, Fred Katz, on the Knicks Film School podcast, Dolan loves the Knicks Julius Randall. He's a huge, quote, huge Julius Randall fan. He loves Randall. He loves that Randall chose Dolan.

and New York. He loves his game. Oh, boy. The Knicks had success this year after Randall got hurt. He doesn't space the floor because he can't shoot. He's an so-so defender, and he stops the ball offensively. He just doesn't share very well on a very unselfish team. Isaiah Hartinstein, actually a true center who can defend other centers, was a

much better fit. Randall can't. He's a tiny five. He has value. He can score. He's productive, but he doesn't work for this team, which often starts four guards.

They need a true center. That was Hartinstein. And why I said after the Paul George move, the other move in free agency that really caught my eye was the center, the big going to Oklahoma City. I'm not sure it's going to help OKC as much as it

potentially hurts the Knicks. When Randall left the team, ball movement was better, spacing was better, offensive rebounding was better. The ball didn't stop. They were better and tougher defensively. I'm not anti-Julius Randall. I defended him for years. There's room for Julius Randall in this league.

But as a max guy on this team would be an organizational clogging decision. he fits somewhere it's not new york so i'm just saying sometimes jimmy johnson told me years ago that the reason jerry jones didn't interfere the first couple of years in tallus because jerry wedged himself in as an owner he had to make the money back he didn't have a lot of extra money Jerry was hustling for two to three years on the operational side on the other side of the building. So Jerry Jones was too distracted and creating and driving the cowboy business on the other side of the building. Once he got that humming, he then wanted to go over to the other side of the building where Jimmy Johnson had built a dynasty. And there the problems ensued.

So sometimes having an owner who's potentially disruptive, distract. He's got another project. He's got a, you know, a new girlfriend. He's got a new yacht. He's got a new business. James Dolan, I got no problem with him owning the team. The sphere caught his attention. He didn't distract.

He didn't meddle. And the next the last two years have been run up run by like grownups. They made really good decisions. This one would worry me. Quote, James Dolan. loves Julius Randall, loves that he chose New York. Oh, boy. J. Mack with the news.

No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Right. Listen, just for the record, Julius Randall, all NBA player twice, can get you 20, 25 a night. So can't Jack Levine and the Bulls can't give him away. True, but listen, Jalen Brunson, you can't play him 37 minutes a night and expect a postseason run. Randall's going to be pivotal for them.

They need him. They're able to keep him. No, they can move him and get a better fit. Hartenstein was a better fit. Hartinstein will be missed. And he averaged, by the way, I can't believe you would say that. I could have hired far more people in your chair. You didn't have the most experience.

It's a good fit. Hartinstein averages eight a game. He was a perfect fit. Relentless offensive rebounder. Never clogged it up. Could defend a five. Didn't get in way of the offense. Julius is a bad defender, iffy.

He clogs the offense. He doesn't help with spacing. He can't shoot. If he was four inches taller and could be a true five and defend centers, it would be fine. But they're going to have to go small ball. And you think the Warriors were small. If Julius Randall's your five, you are tiny. They still have Robinson, the big guy.

But like, Julius Randall, we're talking about a good, good play. He's a top 30 player in the league. This is a fit. write him off. That's a fit story. I get that. But with Bridges and the four Villanova guys, you know they have a fit. Randall will have to figure out how to work with it. So the NBA is getting bigger. Porzingis, Janus, Yonis, Yokic, Wembe, and Julius Randall is your center? He can play a stretch four. He's not a great shooter, but he's a good shooter. No, I'm talking defensively. You'll be the smallest team in the league. I mean, this league's getting bigger. The

small ball nonsense is over. The league's getting bigger. So we established Brunson's a one, right? Absolutely. Who's the two on the next? McHale Bridges is perfect as a three. He's perfect as a three. Well, I don't think this is a championship team.

They're a very good team. I think the fourth best odds in the league to win the title. Yeah, I think that's overstated. I think there's teams in the West that are very good. Wait, are the Sixers better than the next right now? Paul George is a complete difference. I forgot we haven't done this. So Embed, Embeddied backing in on Julius Randall,

because Mitchell Robinson will be hurt. Really? You think that's And by the way, I've got, Paul George is better than McAil Bridges. Now, Brunson's better than Maxie, but the point being is, the league's getting giant. You can't go small ball again. I'm fine, giving Embed 40, 45 a night

against the Knicks, and the next will win the game. Because Embed's a ball hog. Everybody in New York knows I'm right on this. No, listen, I'm not saying keep Randall. I'm just saying right now, the way they're structured. They're not bad. I don't think you can go get a big stud from Julius Randall. You don't need a big stud. What you need is a center

A legitimate run-the-floor, relentless, offensive rebounding force. Okay. I'm telling you, that Hartenstein departure, it's a absolute loss for the Knicks. Yeah, just they got, what, second round deep with Julius Randall not playing. I think they're in good shape. All right, let's go to the NFL, Colin. Yesterday we discussed the top 10 quarterbacks ranked by NFL executives, coaches, and scouts, and one name that didn't come up, Brock Purdy.

We touched on it briefly, but we didn't mention that in the article, they call Brock Purdy a system quarterback and game manager. That's being... Sure sounds like what Tom Brady was called early in his career. An anonymous exec added, you're not going to win because of him in most cases. That's right. Except, you know, he has more fourth quarter comeback victories

than the playoffs than Lamar Jackson, but yeah, you're not going to win because of him. Context. Go for it, Tom. It's just like Julius Randall. It's a bad fit. He's not a bad player. Don't conflate the two.

It's like people today on the Internet are conflating. inefficiency by the Secret Service as a conspiracy theory. Those are two different things. Inefficiency, average employees probably shouldn't have been on that assignment is not a conspiracy theory. A very solid distribution quarterback on a well-coached, loaded team does not make a great quarterback. A lot of guys that played with LeBron, Matthew Delavadova for an hour was a player. A lot of guys that played with LeBron looked really good. And then LeBron leaves in J.R. Smith's career, he golfs a lot now. Like, you have to put things in context.

Julius Randall, good player, not a great fit going forward. Brock Purdy, solid, good player. Not a great player. Put him on, put him on if he was on Jacksonville, they'd never be a playoff team. He doesn't have the talent to overcome. But in San Francisco with Kyle on that, You don't have to overcome.

Just parked a Mercedes and don't hit a tree. So you were gassing up Josh Allen earlier. Do you remember what he was like early in his career without Stefan Diggs? You remember what you were? Yes, 6-6, 258 and jumping over linebackers. I do remember. So body, size, and arm? That matters down on this discussion.

Tom Brady, 6-5, Peyton Manning, 6-5. Tom Brady was a game manager for like six years early. That's what they called him. He wasn't. Well, because he was drafted in the sixth round. Size matters. You know, 6-5, 250. 50, Big Ben. I mean, Josh Allen could do nothing early in his career.

He was spraying the ball all over the field. He was still a lot of yards. Then he got Stefan Diggs, and then he made the jump to light speed, and now he's a start. Let's see what happens with Josh Allen this year. Let's see what happens to Stefan Diggs this year. Oh, I don't love Diggs. I'm just saying the Brock pretty disrespect, Colin. I mean, I don't know what you want.

Like, Kyler Marie's what, like 10 games under 500? Tyler Murray is a number one pick for a reason. Brock was the last pick in the draft for a reason. Jack Wilson was a number two pick for a reason. And he shouldn't have been. Yeah, nobody knows how to draft quarterbacks in this league. Kyler Murray is the number one pick. You think Kyler Murray would work with Shanahan and Nines?

Yes, yes. They'd be a better player. They'd have a Super Bowl right now. Wow, you love Kyler Murray. You guys are boys since you hung out at that U.S.C. fight. We are friends. I don't think the play action works with Kyler Murray. He's just tuck and run.

I can make a play happen. Anyways, let's go on to another quarterback. You love Baker Mayfield. bounce around the league guy after leaving the Browns following the 21 season but he's finally landed on his feet in Tampa Baker signed a three-year extension

with the bucks and said it feels pretty good to finally have a home I'll tell you what you're having a lot more fun when you're not getting shipped off to different places like a piece of very launch I'll tell you that but I got embraced in Tampa

it made a world a difference and I've always played always enjoy it I mean it is a game yes it is my job but I love it so much so why not I've always wore my emotions on my sleeves. And so that people embrace that.

And that's why I'm so excited for having more years to come in Tampa for people to just get to know me a little bit better, truly realize that that's not just a show on the field. That's who I am when it comes down to the football aspect. And I love it. I do anything for our team and our locker room guys know that. Yeah, it's where I've often defended being a professional athlete. Can you imagine if I was traded tomorrow to a network I didn't want to go to?

Well, they make a lot of money. A lot of people make money. They're called lawyers and doctors. It doesn't mean you want your family shipped across the country. Baker Mayfield's always been a franchise quarterback. It was a reach at number one, but he's always had the talent. I've said that from very one. He is a franchise quarterback.

He is absolutely one of the 20 best quarterbacks. I've said this for three years, even when I was banging on him. He's one of the 20 best quarterbacks on the planet. I don't doubt that at all. I had no problem with Tampa Bay giving him a three-year deal. I don't think he's one of the top 12 quarterbacks. I think there's limitations with him. A lot of it due to lack of size and athleticism, but he can play.

There's no doubt he's a franchise quarterback. Interesting. So, you know, you said the Brock Purdy was with Kyle Shanahan, and that's a big part of the system, and Shanahan's awesome. Last year, Baker has the greatest season of his career by a mile, okay, with Dave Canales, the OC. Dave Canales is now on. You know, that Baker bounces back? I think like Shane Steichen leaving the Eagles, it will have an impact.

I think Canales is, my guys love Canales, my guys love Shane Steichen, and Jalen Hertz has not been the same quarterback, and Nick Seriani has not been the same coach since the now Colts head coach left. It should be noted. Justin Herbert's rookie year, he had Shane Steichen as an offensive coordinator. He set records. So I do think offensive coordinators leaving have. It may not have an impact for Brady or a manning in their prime, but it does have an impact.

Listen, C.J. Stroud did very, very well. It helped that he had a smart head coach and a very sharp O.C. So you say Baker's a franchise quarterback, but if you look at his history from 2018, this season just could have been an outlier, Colin. Maybe he's not that good. And he just had one good season with Mike Evans and Godwin and Canales. And the better conference, he won a playoff game. and the AFC he won a playoff game in a tough division.

And he throws a good ball. Oh, that game over Pittsburgh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, it's, I don't think it's... Rothesberger was just... I mean, Sean McVeigh, I've said this about Sam Darnel. Shanahan liked him, and Kevin O'Connell liked him. Sean McVeigh's like, give me Baker Mayfield.

I'll take him. So who has it better your Baker Mayfield or, I don't know, Bryce Young? Who has Dave Canales now? Baker Mayfield. because I still don't like the offensive personnel in Carolina. I think Tampa's got players. I'll take the other side on that one. Final story is, oh yeah,

rookies are set to report to Bears' training camp today. How about that? But neither of their first-round picks Caleb Williams or Roma Dunzee have been signed. Additionally, there was some confusion as to who is handling Caleb's contract with Caleb saying it's his lawyers, and the Bears are saying they're dealing with Caleb directly because Caleb doesn't have an NFLPA certified agent. Seems kind of messy.

Colin, as of yesterday, there were only five first-round picks unsigned. Two of them belonged to the Chicago Bears. Something, nothing? Well, I, you know, when Lamar Jackson used his mom, I didn't love it. It was a disaster for well over a year. Yeah, I mean, I think there's a reason in every industry. There's a top 1% user highly productive. capable people. I would generally go hire a good agent. You have to give up a couple percentage

points. You don't give up 10%. I don't even think you give up five. You probably give up two, two and a half percent. But if you can have, I mean, it's, I've had 12 contract negotiations in my career. I've never done it on my own. It doesn't make any sense. Just go higher. That sometimes people tend to think, like somebody's a doctor and he thinks, well, I went to, I went to medical school and I was an A student. I'm a good doctor, I can design houses, and I'm an expert on financial literacy. No, you're a doctor. That's a skill. A good golfer or a good baseball pitcher aren't necessarily great athletes.

They're good golfers and baseball pitchers. So I think there are people that are really good at the agent business. But we're men. We're stupid. We think we can do everything. I don't think it's stupid. I don't think it's dumb. I think sometimes there is a, you know, when you ever see somebody,

A for sale by owner. That's not a house I'm ever looking at. I've never looked at a house. Unless you think you can swindle. I don't want to deal with some goofy owner who's got a heightened sense of what his house is worth. I don't even, I would not even call on a for sale by owner. I want to deal with my realtor deals with your realtor. Yeah, less, less action for me.

That being said, hard knocks cameras showing up pretty soon. I don't think you want your star quarterback. this dragging out and being a keyword distraction. Talk to Eric Van Jeannie, all the guys here at Fox, who've played in the league. You don't want distractions in the preseason, especially when you have a number one pick quarterback. I'm bullish on the Bears,

but I don't want to see this dragging into August, Colin, where Caleb Williams not signed. I think it's fair. I think that's fair. Just wrap it up, let's go. You make your money as a quarterback in your second, third, and fourth contract anyway. You don't make it in your, even if you're a number one pick.

If you're good, Mahomes made all his money in his second and third deals. That's where the money's at. It's never your first. Even at any company I've worked at, my second third contract,

if I have a third, it's always better than my first. Regardless of how much leverage I had coming into a company. Yeah, I just, you know, it's, I'm rooting for Caleb Williams. I like it. So am I.

But it seems to always be something already with this guy. He's painted his fingernails. His dad wants a slice of the ownership team. Like, there's just a lot of noise. There's a little noise there. Okay, I'm hoping.

that it's not an issue for the Bears, because I will be betting on them frequently this season. I think there's some major value opportunities to the Bears. What's the opener against Tennessee? What's the line on that? Haven't seen me yet. I'm going to guess. Two and a half? Oh, God, no. I think it's going to be like four and a half. Bears minus four and a half. Really? I don't know, man. Tennessee doesn't. Will Levis has some receivers and he's got that big arm, your guy gunshot.

Well, he's got a new offensive coach. New offensive coach. A lot of new. I think the Titans are kind of a black box. I don't know what to expect. Yeah. We'll see. J-MAC with the news Well, that's the news And thanks for stopping by The Herd Lye News For hot water that never runs out

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So this story was reported at the end of the NFL season that Bill Belichick was in line for the Philadelphia Eagles and Nick Seriani's job, but Jeffrey Lurie, the owner, despite the fact the Eagles crashed hard at the end of the season, decided to stick with his young coach. So a story came out this morning that Nick Seriani dismissed those rumors.

He is 34 and 17, year 2 on the job, he got him to a Super Bowl. But we often talk about coaches on the hot seat. And Mike McCarthy of the Cowboys is viewed as a coach on the hot seat. I think equally as hot is Nick Sariani. Number one is Philadelphia has fired really good coaches. Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl. Andy Reid got to, I believe, five NFC championship.

and Chip Kelly had a winning record. They ran them all out of town. Secondly, Siriani, without Shane Steichen, who's now the Colts coach, has not been very good. Until Shane Steichen took over play-calling duties,

the Eagles were a bit of a mess offensively with Jalen Hertz. And this is what would really trouble me. When he left, Shane Steichen did, they were fine early in the season. as Nick was using a lot of Shane Steichen's momentum, but the longer Shane Steichen was in the rearview mirror, the worse it got.

That's a problem. You know, it's like if, and I've said this before in college football, if you have a great coach, Chip Kelly at Oregon, and then a coach takes over for him, he's going to have some momentum for the first year, year and a half, two years. Judge him by year three. It's now his program and his players. I grew up Jim Lambright, Don James.

We saw it like Larry Coker took over for, I think, like Butch Davis in Miami. Butch built that puppy up players everywhere by about year three or four. It's not the same program. And so Siriani used some of the Shane Steichen momentum. The further Steichen was away from the job in Indy, the uglier it got. And the third thing is, and fans always push back on this stuff. Because most guys listening to the show will never get an amazing job. You may get a solid job or a good job.

You're not going to get like corner office, seven-figure jobs. Most guys aren't. And so they don't understand that when you get one of these class jobs, these five-star jobs like NFL head coach, there's a way to act. If you get the corner office, you can't go out drinking and boozing and be on the internet. There's a stigma with it.

Sometimes Nick Sariani comes off as cringy and juvenile, yelling at fans in the stands. He comes off as really young, really juvenile. This is the NFL. Your job is to put a wet blanket on heat. Is to cool things off. Even coaches that we don't perceive as great, like Jason Garrett, I always thought,

was very good in Dallas, which has always got something broiling under the surface with Jerry Jones, did a good job. of kind of being a wet blanket, a cooler on those sort of stories. And he may not have been as great at coach as you want him to be. But there is value, Zach Taylor, I think, in Cincinnati. That ownership situation is always been a bit wonky. He's good at diffusing stuff.

McVeigh, the really good coaches in this league know what not to say and what not to do. Right? Like, that's the real thing. when you get the corner office job, not stepping on it, diffusing stuff, not lighting stuff up. I said this about Baker Mayfield. Dude, go to the podium and just be, just be Dak Prescott. Go be Jalen Hertz at the podium or Tom Brady in his prime. Eli Manning, diffuse the story.

Don't light, don't add flame to the story. So I think Mike McCarthy is viewed as the ultimate hot seat coach. I think Nick Seriani's got a hot seat. And I also think Washington is significantly better this year. The schedule for the Eagles is tougher. The NFC is overall better this year. So keep your eye on that. I also have Nick Wright's coming up next hour.

Final hour, Adam Wainwright, great last time he was on the show. I'm going to save my Caitlin Clark story. I was going to do it this hour. I'm going to save it for next hour. But it is driving, the WNBA is driving. me crazy on this constant discussion. Here's the headline today. It drives me crazy.

Why Caitlin Clark's brutal WNBA Turnovers might be good for. It's not brutal. She's a playmaking guard. Do you know LeBron James rookie year in the NBA? He was third in turnovers. It worked out pretty well. You know who was third in turnovers last year in the NBA?

Wemby. I think he's going to have a good career. You know who had a lot of turnovers early on? Andrew Luck. He won 11 games. Stop worrying from quarterbacks and point guards. Stop worrying about mistakes if you play fast and if you're productive. You know who has a lot of turnover's NBA history?

LeBron Leeds, John Stockton's, I think, second, third, or fourth, and Steph Curry. You know who doesn't? guys who don't make stuff happen. Caitlin Clark is wildly productive. I don't think her team quite plays up to her speed. Like interceptions, a lot of interceptions are not the quarterback's fault. It's a bad route. A lot of her turnovers aren't her fault.

She is crazy fast. In fact, I would argue she's almost unselfish. When I watch her play, I think she should shoot more. And she's a 17-8 player. She should be a 20-6 play. She should have fewer rebounds and assists. Get out of there. Score more.

But as a rookie, she's got to defer to the veterans and ease your way in. So I didn't even tell you this. But yesterday, after your Caitlin Clark rant on the show, I got a text from someone I haven't talked to in many years who's connected to the league. They theorized that the reason Clark's not on the Olympic team is the Caitlin Clark circus, how there's like this just swarm and interest and all this. And they don't need that around the Olympic team. Because, you know, Clark may not play a lot.

And then it's, well, why isn't Caitlin Clark playing a lot? And that's one of the reasons that she's not only, I don't know that I buy it, but it was a decent theory. If they weren't overwhelming favorites to win the gold and that distraction could create a loss, I'd buy that. They're going to win. They're going to win 18 points a game on average. The WNBA needs juice. So to the Olympics. Yeah.

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