The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 1 - Niners, Rams, Steelers

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

The Niners win over the Rams proves Jimmy Garoppolo is the perfect  The Rams need to find a way to fix their offense  The Steelers made the right choice going to Kenny Pickett as their QB   Guest: Mark SanchezSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Debo Samuel both came through. Yes. And heard hierarchy, Colin. Woo-hoo. I know. Rams can't be in there, right? Well, there's a lot of drama. Let me start with this. There are certain things in your life and in my life, if you thought about it for a couple minutes, that are really valuable to you, but they're not necessarily valuable to anybody else. It could be something your grandma gave you. It could be a place where you get peace and quiet. San Francisco is a unique place in America. I believe they have two assets that are much more valuable to them than to anybody else. I'm not saying they don't have a market, but Draymond Green to the Warriors and Jimmy Garoppolo to the Niners. I don't think people outside of San Francisco understand how valuable both are as catalysts.

Let's talk about Garapolo. He works for this offense. He's now 7 and 0 against the Rams and Sean McVan in the regular season. He's accurate. He follows the playbook and he gets rid of the ball faster than all but two other quarterbacks in the league. Kyler Murray is more talented. Russell Wilson's more talented. I don't think either would fit in this offense as well as Jimmy Garoppolo.

Got a big ego at quarterback? Nope. Got to be coachable. You got to run the place Kyle wants. You want to do your own thing, Aaron Rogers. Would Aaron be 7 and 0 against McVe? I don't know. Garopolo works for this team.

Fans struggle with this premise. Well, even the media does. Well, talent, talent, I give you the Brooklyn Nets. Milwaukee doesn't have Brooklyn's talent. You could argue the Warriors don't have their scoring talent. Boston doesn't have their talent. Chemistry, fit, coachability, and good enough talent beats raw talent. And that's what Jimmy Garoppolo does.

The Niners have a bunch of great after the catch weapons. And a great example of this is the box score. If you go into the box score this morning, Rams had almost twice as many first downs. Rams had 25 more plays. Rams dominate time of possession. Rams really control the game, right? You look at all these stats. Here's the big difference.

Yards per play. Rams three and a half, Niners, almost seven. And that's not Jimmy winging it downfield. It's Jimmy getting it. Third fastest release in the league. Get it, read it, get it out, and let the guys like Debo go. He fits. I've been arguing this forever with Draymond Green.

On the Orlando Magic, what does he mean? I don't know, but on the Warriors, literally their defensive stats, last year in the regular season, when Draymond was on the floor, it was the best defense in the NBA since like 2004 Spurs with Tim Duncan. When he wasn't on the floor for the Warriors defensively, they were 13th in the NBA. You've got to watch Warrior games. You have to understand the culture. You have to understand he's the bouncer in the skinny jeans nightclub.

He is so valuable to them. But he doesn't have that same value for the wizards. They're not as well built. They don't have that. They don't understand him. It wouldn't work there. The culture's not right. That's Garapolo.

What is his market? He doesn't have one. What GM is going to spend $25 million in a guy that has, you know, tenuous physical availability? He's not worth that much. He's not going to carry a franchise. They're not looking for that. Kyle Shanahan made Matt Schaub a pro bowler and Matt Ryan an MVP.

They followed direction. And Garapolo and the Niners fit because they're not a delicate team. They're not a pretty team. They're not a finesse team. They'll hit you in the mouth. They're a little clunky. They're not a fine work of art. And either is Garapolo.

And the other thing here is you're kind of trap with Jimmy, although I wouldn't use the word trap because I think he's better than everybody else tends to think he is. But because you gave up three first round picks for Trey Lance, you can't give up on him because he got hurt. You've got to try that exercise again. But what if it doesn't work? You've got to keep Jimmy G. around because he's the only proven winner in this city with this coach over the last three years. You can't bail on him and he doesn't have much of a market outside of it. So it's one of these relationships you can fight. Oh, is Draymond Green worth it? Is Draymond Green? Yes, for their culture, he is a better fit

with the Warriors than anybody else and it's not close. And I think Garoppolo works for this team. Doesn't have a big ego. Isn't going to add lib. He's going to follow the plays. He gets rid of the ball quickly. And their offense has all these guys that are great after the cash. After the game, Kyle Shanahan on Jimmy G.

Whenever people in sports struggle to get out on the field and, you know, we didn't get a third down. And we didn't get to third down a bunch last week. no one feels in rhythm. That's kind of the way we say it, but it really comes down to, that's just a broad statement to what happened. But he threw some big throws there and it kept us going and allowed us to start with the touchdown. So, you know, I think last week that was the reason for it. It was third down mainly, but I thought he did a hell of a job on that early in this game and that allowed us in with some points. Let's talk about the Rams. So one of the things that is really remarkable about this league, and no other league is like this. We know in baseball,

the Dodgers are going to be good as long as they want to be good because they just have a bigger payroll. Same with the Yankees. Braves are well run. It's hard to go from really, really good to awful. But in the NFL, in the NBA, if you got a collection of good stars, unless you have major injuries, I mean, the Warriors are mostly been really, really, really good, you know, for the last eight, nine years, except for the couple years that Durant left, Steph got hurt. But in football, half the teams that made the playoffs will not make it this year.

The Super Bowl loser this year at Cincinnati generally falls off the edge. It's fascinating in the NFL. It's why it's so much fun. Look at the L.A. Rams. You can blame McVeigh and you can blame Matt Stafford this morning. But now the pressure's on the front office. Less need the GM. A couple years ago, they drafted with their number two pick 2-2 Atwell to be an over-the-top receiver.

He's a bust. They spent a lot of money on Alan Robinson. I like the move a lot. I really liked it. Three-year deal. He can't get open. Now, due to a Van Jefferson injury, they are a one wide receiver receiving core. The tight end Tyler Higby and Cooper Cup had 33 targets last night.

So until Van Jefferson comes back, it's basically Cooper Cup, a tight end, and that's it. This team was winning in Tampa. They're beating the Niners. They're beating the Bengals. They're flying through the playoffs. Look at them now. Four games in to the season. after winning the Super Bowl, it all changes.

Just think of these two little moves. Just these two moves. Vaughn Miller leaves and Andrew Whitworth retires. They lose their best pass rusher and their best pass protector. And statistically this morning, this morning, the Rams have the worst sack differential in the league. Four games after winning the Super Bowl. Harassing Burrow, Brady, Gropon.

the NFL last year. Two players. One retires, one leaves for a better contract. They have the worst sack differential in the league. And because of one Van Jefferson injury and a free agent move that hasn't worked yet, they have one wide receiver. I mean, offensively, think about this. In the NFC, Eagles defensive front's great. Tampa's defensive front's great.

Niners defensive front, great. Seattle's now getting after it. Bay gets after it. Look at all these teams in the NFC. A lot of good pass rushes. Rams can't protect the quarterback. And Matt Stafford's not a real mover. I mean, we're four weeks into the new season. And you look at the Rams and you're like, this team's not a Super Bowl team. I'm not sure that team's a playoff team. They can't protect their quarterback. They can't get to the quarterback. And they have a one wide receiver receiving court. So it is, this is why the league is great.

There's no guarantee. In college football, didn't we all predict before the season? Bammo, Ohio State, Georgia will be the top three teams. College basketball last year, hey, shocker, Kansas won. I mean, you know, in tennis, if somebody's great early, they're great for 20 years. In baseball, the Dodgers have so much money, you know they're going to be viable. But in the NFL, I mean, the Rams were just cutting through people. And now can't pass block, can't get after their quarterback, one receiver you can count

on. Wow, here's Sean McVey after. The story of the night from an offensive perspective was, you know, self-inflicted wounds, you know, just above the neck airs where we're not doing the things that we're capable of, and I expect us to be better than that. Why have it been a struggle to spread the ball around and get Adam Austin involved? It's just been a struggle overall. Yeah, that one is, I thought Alan Robinson, and for the record, he's only 29. So he played for the Jags, then the Bears.

And I always defend Alan Robinson and saying, well, what are the quarterbacks he's played with? He'll be great with the Rams. Stafford's not looking at him. He's not separating. I think he's talented, but it doesn't look dynamic. So can they get that thing figured out? Is it solvable? Van Jefferson helps down the field.

Do you go after OBJ? You know, it is, they're in a tough spot. Garoppolo now regular season, 7 and 0 against McVan and Rams. Say that out loud. One hour from now, little less, the herd hierarchy. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. So according to a report, Mike Tomlin, Steelers coach, is going to stick with Kenny Pickett over Marginal Mitch Trubisky. there are certain streaks in sports that are pretty amazing. Joe DiMaggio hit in 56 straight baseball games. It'll never be equal. That's like two months. Got a hit in every game.

I mean, now it's so situational. The minute a starter is marginally tired, he's out. You bring in a guy throwing 98 in the sixth inning, the seventh inning. Like, that's an amazing streak. 56 game hitting streak. Here's the kind of streaks that apparently everybody else is fascinated with, and they don't do much for me. protective streaks.

Like Cal Ripkin played in like 2,700 straight baseball games. In the end, he was old, didn't have any range. And there were people inside the organization that thought he was sort of impeding the growth of other young infielders for the Orioles. The second one is Mike Tomlin's never had a losing season. Yippee. This sport's about winning Super Bowls, not protecting a 500 or better streak. They also haven't had a memorable season in 12 years. And so one of my criticisms of Green Bay and the Steelers is they're like conservative

and protective to a fault. Tampa Bay has won two Super Bowls in the last 20 years. That's the same as well-run Pittsburgh and more than Green Bay, and Tampa this year is much more poised to win it than Green Bay or Pittsburgh. Don't buy into that fool's gold Green Bay win in Tampa when none of the Buccaneers' receivers were healthy. Just let Kenny Pickett play. What if he goes 3 and 11?

What if he does? Sometimes you've got to bottom out to get to the top. this like well Mike Tomlin's never had a losing season all right great bellichick's got seven rings they're going to end up having a losing season you think he you think he'd trade for that like you got to find out if can he picket can play and so you can't do it in three starts you can't do it in eight you got to give him 14 15 starts rest of the year let's see what he can do it's got 13 starts left he may win three all right you're going to get a great draft pick and there's a bunch of good quarterbacks

go get one of those. Or maybe you stay with Kenny Pickett and get a, get another, you know, an offensive tackle or somebody in the O line that can protect him. But you can't be afraid to fail. I think sometimes Green Bay does that. It's like they just keep drafting corners and linebackers in the first round. Let's get Jordan Love. You know, Aaron is slightly declining.

How about get him a receiver in the first round? And Pittsburgh is like, Big Ben, move on. Big Ben hasn't beaten, didn't beat a great quarterback in the playoffs for the last like eight years of his career. And so Tomlin inherited Big Band, and he inherited Dick LeBone and great defense. It's time for him to carve out like his Steelers. And to me, this is your moment. And I was thinking about it this morning.

Steelers fans get, because of their history, they get very protective and very defensive. But there's three tiers of football as of this morning. They look like to me, now things can change, but it feels like there's three tiers of football. The first tier are the teams that should be favored to win the Super Bowl. Kansas City, Buffalo, Tampa. I still like Baltimore, Cincinnati, San Francisco, Philadelphia.

They feel like Super Bowl contenders. Then there's playoff contenders. I don't know if they have another gear. Miami, Minnesota, Dallas. You know, Rams, we'll see when they get healthy with Van Jefferson. Green Bay, Jacksonville, I think. Chargers, although left tackle Rashon Slater out. How long can that, you know, we'll see.

It looks like Denver and the Raiders in that division aren't very good. So those are your two tiers. third tier, Pittsburgh's in. You're not a Super Bowl team. You're not a Super Bowl team. I don't even think you're a playoff team with Kenny Pickett or Mitch Trubiskey. So roll it. Let's see what you got. But it's just this Green Bay and Pittsburgh and Planet Safe. Tampa's got two Super Bowls in the last 20 years and is poised and may be favored right

now along with Philadelphia to win the NFC. Pittsburgh's not close to win in the AFC. And Green Bay didn't have a number one wide receiver. They're not winning a Super Bowl. Aaron Rogers said this week. The way we're winning is not even sustainable. J-Mac with the news. No, no, no, no, no.

Turn on the news. This is the heard-line news. I get something similar on my podcast. I did have the Green Bay Packers in the top tier. No Bengals. You're bullish on Cincinnati, huh? Well, again, weapons, lots of them, running backs, receivers, multiple. Like, they are, when I watched the Rams last night, the offensive line's obviously an issue.

So they don't have much of a pass rush. like and they can't protect the quarterback. But I mean, you start looking around. I don't think Sean McVeigh likes Cam Acres. He'd never say it publicly. Fumbles and can't pass protect. That's why they drafted another running back, a bigger, stockier guy. You can tell they're not designing plays for Alan Robinson.

They're not bringing OBJ back, apparently. I mean, they basically are a tight end Cooper Cup offense that I think he really likes those two players and Van Jefferson, but he's a three. So it's like you start looking around at Cincinnati. is they got three guys I trust going down the field and a quarterback I love and the O line over four weeks has gotten slightly better every week. I don't know. When the Rams fall behind, it feels like they have no comeback ability this year. They got blown out by the bills and then blown out again last night.

Anyways, let's get to the news. First up, Cowboys do not expect Dak Prescott to play this weekend, Colin. Jerry Jones, of course, because the owner comes out and talks on the radio giving injury updates, said this morning that Dak Prescott cannot grip the ball well enough to play this weekend. So Cooper Rush will be starting against the Rams. Now, we talked about this.

We were like, oh, it's going to be reality for Cooper Rush and the Dallas Cowboys. I don't know. Watching the Rams last night, it's like, whoa, do I need to rethink this game? What is the line on that? Four and a half by the Rams. Now, it was seven on the look ahead.

They put out lines last week, so it's come down. Is that an over adjustment? Are people going to overreact to what they saw in prime time? Rams are at home, but it is a short week. Also, McVeigh, off a loss. They'll be inspired. I just looked that up

last segment. McVeigh, three and one against Dallas since he took over his head coach. He's kind of shredded them. Also, the Andy Reeds, the Belichicks, the Kyle Shanahan's, the McVeys. They tend to be very good off a loss. Here's Jerry Jones. And Mike McCarthy

actually talking about Deck Prescott. Give him his due. He has managed to write the ship, steady it, and then progressively get this team in shape to play without DAC. And that's a team-wide thing.

I think it would be an injustice not to give him the kind of credit as head coach for getting this thing righted and getting it to this point. And what's happened over the last three weeks is with the makeup of our team and I think our personnel and I think our potential with the makeup of this team, these three games got us back in the hunt. Got to love the owner giving you a big pat on the back there in public. Listen, there is an advantage to playing in a perceived weaker division that you can get right very quickly. This is what Green Bay's had the advantage in Dallas over the last few years when you got a Giants rolling in or a Washington rolled in.

They get a little bit of a break now. The Rams are kind of reeling because they are struggling to protect Stafford. And the Cowboys Pass Rush is the strength of that organization right now. So it's a pretty tasty matchup for Dallas. I actually think Dallas, after watching last night, they had another injury on the offensive line last night. So they're in a spot where if they're not healthy against Dallas on the O line, Dallas, there's going to be a low-scoring under game.

We talk about the trenches. I just looked at up. The Rams are dead last in the NFL and pressure rate, 9% getting to the quarterback. So if they can't get to the quarterback, they can't protect the quarterback. You lose. You're in trouble. This is a tough spot for the Rams. Next up, Baker Mayfield.

Boy, I feel like his days are numbered on this show, Colin. He hasn't had a great start, obviously, in Carolina. They're one and three. Last in the league in yards per game. Last in a whole hell of a lot of another stats. But it doesn't sound like there's a quarterback change coming. Matt Ruhl said Sam Darnold is not ready to return from the high ankle sprain. And Baker is the starting quarterback.

The backup is PJ Walker, who, ironically, did play last year against Arizona and beat them. 34 to 10. I don't know. You think Baker Mayfield's long for the starting job in Carolina? No, I think he had his shot in the league with a really great O-line running game and he didn't take advantage of it. It's why you can't be Johnny Manzeller Baker. You've got to be mature.

You've got to be buttoned up. James Winston blew his opportunity with all those great receivers in Tampa. Now he's got a defensive coach in New Orleans. I mean, James Winston had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, O.J. Howard, offensive coach, Bruce could never grow up. You just don't have time, folks. You've got to be a grown-up as a quarterback in the league. The first team you go to, that's the one where they're not paying you.

That's the team that can give you a good old line, good run, game, and weapons. But the time you sign your second deal, then you have an offensive line that looks like Carolina. Because you've got to spend the money. Now, I mean, that's the reality of it, is that that's why I was bang on this. You better be ready in a grown-up to play. Yeah. Because that first roster will be your most talented. So what's logically next?

We agree Baker's not built to hold a clipboard. Well, is he going to be, is he more likely to go right to the booth? Does he try to call games? I think he'd be a, oh, if I owned a network, I'd put Baker on as a college football announcer tomorrow. Absolutely. Tomorrow, I think he'd be great. Now, he's not Clatter Herb Street, but I would put him on a college game. He's got huge credibility collegiately.

He's totally outspoken, quarterback. He's like, you know, in baseball, a lot of catchers become broadcaster. in the NFL, a lot of quarterbacks become broadcaster. I think Baker Mayfield, tomorrow, as a college football analyst, I think he'd be in a number two booth within two years. Or does his pride say, I'm going to stay ready, I'm going to stay healthy and work out and be ready for the call when someone goes down around the week?

He loves Oklahoma football. He has unbelievable passion for it. There's nothing wrong with that. I think he doesn't need the money. Yeah, he's set, given that quarterback. He has, he could be a huge. star as a broadcaster. And he made a lot of commercial money as well. All right, moving from one struggling offense to another, the Chicago Bears.

Boy, it's been a rough month. The passing game has been particularly bad. Justin Fields ranked last among starters in completions, yards. It's like he's playing in the 1950s, Colin. It's really ugly out there. The whole offense is. But Justin Fields pushed back when asked what's been wrong with this part of the offense so far. You said last week you kind of threw out this excuse of it. It's early. Now you guys are four games in. always you've had a lot of time with this offense the running game is working why isn't the passing game working who said the passing game was it working the numbers aren't good it's not

been pretty i mean numbers don't matter i don't think in my opinion um but you know as long as we win like i said that's that's all i care about hmm well the passing game's not worth stats don't matter well the wins matter more but you know i mean we have to be honest about stuff he doesn't have a ton to work with. So, listen, Matt Eberfluse looks highly kind. Do they have a Sean McDermott in Chicago where they've, it's the wrong side of the ball,

but they have a very good defensive coach? I think he's a really, really good coach. I just, I have to be patient because offensively, I don't think Tom Brady could win with this team. I don't think they have, who's their number two receiver. But you love to say Brady elevated guys who were like six-rounders, lacrosse players,

anybody, Brady would elevate them. But it took Brady four years to elevate Edelman. Tom didn't elevate people initially. Deiont. I mean, who was that guy? But again, it took him time. Justin Fields, by the end of this year, there'll be people in our organization. Remember, this GM and this coach

that didn't draft Justin Fields? By the way, I think this GM drafted Trubisky and Justin Fields. No, I think, are you sure? It might have, I think it was Pace, no? They have a new GM. A new GM. Oh, GM was Tribisky. So this GM and this coach didn't draft Fields. They're not loyal to him at all. Yeah. This is the second year if it doesn't

work. Remember, you're in a division with Aaron, and the highly capable Jared Gough and Cousins. You can't have the fourth best quarterback in a division. You can't. So, you can say, what about Garoppolo? Well, right now, Garoppolo is playing better than Kyler Murray, and he is better than Gino Smith, despite what Gino's done. They do face the Vikings, I believe, this weekend.

They are seven-point underdogs. They will not beat the Vikings. Vikings' defense is bad, no chance. Andy Dalton moved the ball up and down the field. If fields can't, Colin. You bet against the Vikings last week. I did. That was foolish of me.

J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. So here's a truism. However, it lands, it lands. UFC is a tough guy sport. Basketball is a tall man sport.

And football is a big man sport. There are exceptions, obviously. But Tua is a small football player. people that have been around him say he's not 6'1 he's 5.11 and a half and about 205 pounds. People get uncomfortable because of everybody obviously cares, good kid about his mental health and the concussions. And there's a story today he's out for week five. Many people believe, and I'm one of them, I'd sit in for two or three weeks. I just think it's just the smart side to be on.

Shouldn't play this week. Shouldn't play the following week. but here is a truth and it makes people a little angry. Last four years, college and pro, Tua has missed multiple starts. In the last four years, Aaron Rogers hasn't. Josh Allen hasn't. Tom Brady hasn't missed a start due to injury since 2008. Justin Herbert hasn't.

Aaron Rogers hasn't missed a start in six years. And let's talk about Aaron Rogers. When you watch Aaron Rogers, you don't think big guy, right? So I am 6-2, a buck-89. I weighed myself this morning for this segment. I'm a buck-89, a workout every day. I'm not big, obviously, but compared to people on my staff, I'm much taller. I'm bigger than most people around the country.

So a buck 90, I'm 6-2. Aaron Rogers is 6-2 and weighs 36 pounds more than me. Aaron Rogers walks into a room. Dude's a big dude. I've stood next to Aaron Rogers. He's a big dude. He's ripped. He is butt,

hips, shoulders, chest. Aaron Rogers is a big dude. 6-2-225. And I, when I walk around this company, I'm much bigger than my bosses. I'm much bigger than my producers. Okay. So Aaron doesn't look big.

Aaron Rogers doesn't look big. doesn't look big. 6-2-2-25. And pretty yoked. Two is a small guy. And so you start looking at this situation in Miami. They got the left tackle right.

They got the coach right. They got the weapons right. They got the corners right. Maybe they don't have the great pass rusher yet. But I mean, Lamar Jackson's a prime example. Lamar Jackson came into this league skinny. He's 6.2.5.2.30. That's Aaron Rogers.

That's a big dude. He's yoked. You see Jalen hurts. He's gotten yoked. And so when I look at the two of a situation, you know, some things go without saying, obviously everybody's concerned. I would keep him out for several weeks. There are people out there, CTE specialists, that say he should be out for the year.

What do I know? I'm not a neurologist. I don't do brain scans. Maybe he should. But there also is a reality that grown-ups, adults are having in the room and not saying things publicly. Like, we know this, right? When coaches go to the podium. when GMs go to the podium, they're not telling you the truth.

They're telling you what the media can handle. They don't want to start fires, right? So Sean McVeigh, you ask him a question. He gives you a safe answer that won't turn into a headline in the LA Times. The conversations now in Miami, obviously, everybody cares about Tuas health. But it is interesting because Miami finally looks like left tackle, head coach, corners, weapons. It's like they checked all the boxes.

I don't remember the last 15 years. When I looked at Miami, I went, they got everything. So now it's going to be very interesting. He's out against the Jets. He should be out against the Jets. You know, I saw a story this morning. Next year in the NFL draft, nobody wants to talk about size anymore in the NFL for quarterbacks.

Russell Wilson has made us believe. Oh, small court size doesn't matter. It does. Tua admitted a month ago. I can't see over the line. Kyler Murray now is tired of getting hit won't run. Bryce Young is the number one quarterback prospect at Alabama. he's six feet tall,

193.3 and a half pounds. That's smaller than Tua. So all this stuff is very interesting. What do you do if you're Miami? I don't think it's easy. I think you're sitting there thinking to yourself, we care about the kid, we love the kid, the kid's good,

we've got concerns on concussions, the media's barking, you just fire doctors. I think stuff is harder than people think. I think the NFL, there's a lot of stories. It's very tough. You can go from Rams to out of the playoffs in six months. And I think the Miami situation, I think now you have to protect the kid.

You have to protect him from himself. You can't let him play. I'd keep him out for two to three weeks minimum. Summer saying the year, they could be right. I could be wrong. Mike McDaniel yesterday, you know, you're seeing now, everybody goes to the podium now, and everybody's on eggshells. Here's Mike McDaniels.

Yeah, this is something that it's too early to give a definite timeline. I can comfortably say that he'll be out for this game against the Jets. But anything beyond that, again, we're just focused on making sure he's at optimal health and then crossing that bridge. So it's a little early for definitive timelines beyond that. Listen, everybody on the Internet is absolutely sure. They have all the answers. They're always right.

This stuff's hard. I don't know what you do with Tua. I just know if I was a coach, I wouldn't want them out there. Not this week. Probably not the following week. I know everybody on the Internet's got easy answers on this stuff, but we are now, you know, we're in this thing now where like size doesn't matter at quarterback. Of course it does.

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Mark Sanchez in London, staying in London, 10-year career, Fox Sports. But first of all, I watched the game this weekend. My takeaway is if you compared it to five to six years ago, it looks like London and Europe is way more into the NFL. That was my interpretation. That stadium was packed. Your thoughts. they were rocking and it's so funny um well i think the NFL does a good job you know with the

publicity for it the PR team you know coming out here and you should have seen all the stadium graphics and they had it dialed in you can tell this is a first class operation but the fans you nailed it they're they're really starting to uh embrace this sport that we love across the pond you know and so they um you see you get every all 32 teams are represented a million different eras and generations of football because you get somebody, you know, wearing like old school Joe Montana jerseys and Dan Marino jerseys. And then you get people that are, you know, Vikings, Justin Jefferson that are from, you know, right around Tottenham Stadium, you know, not from Minnesota. And it was interesting, too, to hear usually like the kicks in most, you know,

NFL games back home, they're, you know, they're kind of silent. It's a quiet play. You get a chance to say what you want to say, but punts, kickoffs, you know, field goals, all that. Everybody's like, oh! Right. Now, I mean, listen, they like our football. We increasingly like their football. I love, I kind of like the symmetry of it. So, first of all, you're a former jet. I thought Zach Wilson had a great fourth quarter for the Jets. I thought it was big for Sala. I thought there's a lot of buy-in when I watched that. And I came out of that weekend, and I'm like, listen, it may not feel big to anybody else, but in New York, beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh and Mike Tomlin.

That felt pretty big to me, Mark. No, that was a big deal. I just don't want him to get, you know, don't start drinking the Kool-Aid now. That's you too, Colin. So my man, Jamek, I know he knows the Jets, but I want to take you to this play right before halftime. And this is a theme I see with Zach and something he's got to clean up, just absolutely has to eliminate from his game.

But you got 33 seconds left. It's third and 11. You have two timeouts right here. And he throws that ball into a defensive team meeting. Are you kidding me? Like, absolutely not. And listen, I've done the same thing in my first two years plan. I know exactly, this is probably why I can't coach

because I would absolutely lose my mind and go choke the quarterback on the field. Like, here's the problem. One, you have so much time. The time is more important. The timeouts are more important. The situation trumps this entire read. I don't care if we get the first down.

You can scramble. You can do whatever. you're already in field goal range. Get a couple more yards, make it an easier chip shot field goal. But the fact that we're going to put this anywhere near a defender, absolutely not. And on the coaching staff,

most importantly, if you know he plays like this and he's not ready to handle this situation, protect him from himself. Call a timeout. Burn one of the timeouts. You have two, right? So before halftime in these situations,

you get two timeouts, one's for the kicking team, one's for the offense. You got to burn one on offense because something goes wrong or because somebody stayed in bounds and you got to stop the clock, burn it. Well, you have an extra one. So burn it, pull into the sideline, grab them by the face mask. Hey, one thing we cannot do here, we cannot lose yards and we cannot throw an interception. We cannot give the ball away.

That's it. Bottom line, on this play. I don't care if we get 11 yards or not. Matters, absolutely none. So those kind of things. But it's the same decision like preseason. making the move and getting hurt on the run. Like, dude, just get down.

You don't have to prove anything to anybody. It's preseason. I need you to play for the whole season. So little things like that. Because let's just say Kenny Pickett goes in and throws one last interception, throws a touchdown, boom, you get beat by three points and you had a free three points before halftime.

J-Mack, you know how that media would have eaten him a lot. It would have been an absolute hornet's nest. All right. And it would have been, you know. Yeah. You have Giants. So you had Viking Saints. You stayed in London.

You have Giants Packers. So you're starting to look at Packers stuff now. I've said this before. They've gotten some breaks. They play a young Justin Fields. Tampa doesn't have any of their receivers. This week, New England's down to Bailey Zappy and took them to overtime. Sometimes in this league, you get injury breaks.

I look at Green Bay and I find them to be a very one-dimensional team. They're not going to play from behind. I don't think Aaron yet trusts the receivers. I get it. They're kids. But when you look at Green Bay, they're starting to look a little like Tennessee to me. Like they can win and win a lot. But boy, I don't feel like they're built for shootouts at all. Your thoughts looking at them.

Well, I think, you know, Aaron even admitted it that that's not a sustainable way to win games over the long haul. But the bottom line is they won the game. And they're talking about this from a winning perspective, right? Because if you lose a couple of these games, then maybe these guys, don't develop as quickly as you'd like and they lose a little confidence not not the quarterback but the the young receiving court and we've seen this with tom brady with peyton manning with all the great ones they last so long in this league that eventually there's going to be turnover in the wide receiver room in the skill positions around them and the supporting cast so then it

becomes a time on task deal and understanding these situations and i guarantee rogers has those guys in the film room trying to figure it out but it i liken it a lot lot to, you know, Michael Jordan's like second three Pete, Kobe's second version of title runs without Shaq, right? Those guys, like Aaron Roger's screaming at the rep. Romo made a joke about it on the broadcast, but I mean, he's screaming his head off at his second year center. Hey, dude, snap me the effing ball, right?

Right. Well, people are like, oh, my God, I can't believe he talks to people like that. So my only thing is he's going to bring these guys along, but just like Kobe, just like Jordan, those guys aren't there to be your best friend, right? They're in the twilight of their career. They can still ball better than any of them to ever walk this earth. And they're trying to win again, you know, because now it becomes like this addiction. Like I need this action.

I need this win. And I need these title runs. And so I'm not here to make you feel good. We're here to win these ball games. So it's never personal. But he can, he's going to be with these guys. sometimes and that's that's just the way it works i mean bottom line is show business not show friends kind of thing and and you know he's going to grind it out but they they got to keep that run game going and then

the faster they can mesh quarterback receiver all that kind of stuff the extra meetings taking these guys through film going through these situations not just the ones they go through but seeing other teams and having that situations real from around the league like hey look at the you know um jets play before halftime. Look at these guys in the third quarter, in the fourth quarter, two-minute drill. Where did they screw up? Here's where you have to get out of bounds. Here's where you can stay in bounds. Here, we don't have time out. Whatever. He's got to get those guys seeing the same way he does so he can really start attacking. We only have 30 seconds left. I don't know you're in London if you saw USC win. Are you shocked their 5-0? Dead series. Are you surprised?

slightly i'd say just a little bit i thought they might have had like one maybe mishap or something or my only fear was like oregon state sneaks up on them after they're riding high you know riding that wave of emotion and then you go on the road to corvallis and i mean that's a that's a tough tough place to play so uh i'm i'm glad they overcame those things and now it's going to be there's some big ones coming up on the schedule uh we talked about you know UCLA Notre Dame uh Utah those are those are some big ones so we'll see how how they play when the lights get real bright. Yeah, he's not, you know, Brock walked in,

five and Oklahoma's not doing well without it. That's a pretty good sign. They got a pretty, no, not good. Yep, that's the brakes, Oklahoma. He came out to L.A. It's a nice place to live. All right, Marky, Mark, you're in London. He is doing the Giants Packers,

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