The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - One Not So Shiny Moment

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

C&R react to WrestleMania 41 in Las Vegas! They ask Danny G. about the Lakers Game 1 performance. There's audio from Nico Harrison, surprised Mavs fans love Luka THAT much! It sparked the topic of "one moment makes a person's lasting memory!" The guys take calls from around the country! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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weekend again i'm steve covino that is rich davis dandy g super producing at eight seven seven 99 on fox and we got big ryan the controls on the ones and twos what up ryan Hello there, sirs. Ryan, we got to talk to you today. I found out that before we knew you, before your life here at Fox Sports Radio, you dabbled as a wrestler? Yes, yes. I did, yes.

I even though I was on some shows with John Cena. Well, I was going to ask you, what did you think of WrestleMania 41? I had it on in the background all weekend because, I mean, it is, you know how NFL pregame? It depends on how much you want to watch. But if you really wanted to, you could watch NFL coverage from Sunday. From the minute you wake up until the minute you go to bed if you wanted to. That's WrestleMania.

I feel like it's an eight hour a day. Turn on Peacock, which is what it was on. All day, Saturday, all day, Sunday. And it was packed, though, man. They were packed in there in Vegas, right? Like sardines. 61,000 packed. Yeah, it just looked insane.

But how the hell were you? I mean, Ryan, I mean, it's obvious you're a big dude. But tell us about that. Like, how far did your career go? and what was that about? What was your name? I wanted to know that. It was Ryan McBain. Okay. I didn't get really, really far. Just here in L.A. I started in college, actually, and I didn't tell my parents. My dad would have killed me if you found out I was doing that while I was going to college.

But it was fun. I met a lot of guys that actually made it. Samoa Joe, John Cena, like I said. I've heard a lot of crazy stories. I've met a lot of cool people. I've met Terry Funk backstage. Was he as terrible as they say or no? Terrible Terry Funk He was a cool guy He was a cool dude Terry Funk No he didn't brand me

Wow Well you know what I actually saw photo proof of you In your heyday as a wrestler Big Mike who runs this place Was showing us pictures You're like no way Not quite sure why Mike has shirtless photos of you

But I'm not sure why it's his wallpaper Of his phone But yeah Mike who runs this place But it was cool to see And I know the alias Ryan McBain I didn't know that was your wrestling name though I thought it was like You're just screen name

or whatever. But Ryan Smith on the ones and twos and hope you had a John Sina sort of weekend. And speaking of John Sina, we're going to talk about something he did and the times you were bullied into something because he did something and we'll explain. Plus NFL draft trivia giving away prizes on this Monday on this big week. And we got to talk Nico Harrison. There's lots to get to on today's show. I get ready for some great basketball today. You know, before we get into, I do think there's a great. story and just a thought about Nico Harrison, Dallas Mavericks. But Danny, you seem pretty calm over the weekend on our text message read about the

Lakers. Like you know, I don't know how, dude. I was pacing around worrying about the Lakers because the whole time I'm like, oh, they'll come back. And then I believed you. I hit up Danny G. I'm like, I don't know about this game. He was like, yeah, they just got to buckle down on defense.

I'm like, all right. So they'll come back. They never really came back, man. They looked good. They looked good out the gate in the first quarter. They played flat after that. Well, what did Redick say that they were mentally there, just not physically ready, physically there for this game? For the physicality of the rules.

Yeah. And look, you got to make adjustments. It's a seven-game series. So I don't think any team should panic after one game of a seven-game series. No, but I feel like you need it. I say we because I'm like sort of invested as a L.A. native now for 15 plus years. and I'm rooting for you too. Well, you've got to ask yourself, though,

because, you know, the way Nas Reid and the other guys were knocking down all those shots. Yeah. If they make those same shots in game two, then I'm worried. I'm like, okay, this is not a one-game thing. This is a trend, and they just are going to out-shoot the Lakers. And they drive to the hoop a lot. Lakers, we've talked about it all season.

What do they lack, some size? So, you know, hey, if they don't make adjustments, then, yeah, then this could be the Wolf Series. The only other road team that came away with a W over the weekend, Golden State. But I feel like that's, I know that Houston's a two-seed, but not a terribly better team, even record-wise. Yeah, butler's all the difference right now, man, just playing so big. And tonight, of course, Pistons, Knicks, Clippers, Nuggies. So just more to look forward to.

And I got to tell you, in a personal note, besides all the WrestleMania's and the holiday weekend and all the Easter treats that you have to munch on, great basketball, just knowing that there's baseball on every day, such a game changer for me. Like every day is like nudie magazine day. Every day I know there's something to watch, something to be excited about. And so far the season's been great. I'm loving every minute of it. So that's a personal note for me. Like I get so pumped, Rich, to note I get to sit around,

lamp around and do nothing, watch baseball later. And the big series in the NLE starts today. My Mets hosting the Phillies and guys like Lindor are saying that city fields been packed. And it's a real home field advantage. So we'll see that battle starts tonight. Mets, Phillies. And over the weekend, Juan Soto turns it on a little bit.

He's showing signs of life. I mean, it's about time when you're paying a billion dollars a game. But I mean, like, you know, the 162 game schedule. I got a hate on them. And I think it's also very positive in this room because the three teams we root for it in this room are Mets, Dodgers, Yankees, and they're all currently looking pretty damn good.

So, MLB in full effect. But I want to go to Nico Harrison for a second. because I think he's starting to fall into the category of being known for the wrong reasons. Well, today, specifically, he's known for saying stupid things. Or maybe being too honest when being real goes wrong because they asked him. He was talking about, you know, getting rid of Luca. And what he said has people scratching their noggins. I did know that Luca was important to the fan base.

I didn't quite know it to what level. But really, the way we looked at it is, you know, if you're putting on the, if you're putting a team on the floor that's Kyrie, Clay, PJ, Anthony Davis, and lively, we feel that's a championship caliber team. And we would have been winning at a high level. And that would have quieted some of the outrage. And so unfortunately, we weren't able to do that. So it just continued to, you know, go on and on. That's true. I mean, there's some truth to that.

had they played well and had AD stayed healthy and they all hadn't gotten down the way they did, it wouldn't have stung as bad as it did. But that was one of the biggest meltdowns and crashes as any team has seen, you know, especially after the departure of a superstar. But he is basically saying he underestimated Dallas's love for Luca. That's kind of crazy to be that out of touch with your own fan base if you're the GM. Right? If anyone's supposed to know, it's you. That's how I feel about it. That's your job.

You're supposed to know that. I think you see it when there's a great owner or general manager. When they're oblivious, it's even more shocking to me. Like, how do you not know? Like, I'll go to my Mets for a second. When Steve Cohen took over, he's so involved where he's like, all right, fans, what altered it in Jersey do you like best? Like, he wants to be on the pulse of what the fans are thinking. It's a combination of things, though, Rich.

Here's how I feel about it. And I find this to be true because I'm saying it. It's a mixture of both. It's true because he's sad. No, no, no, because you want to appease the fans, but you can't let fans dictate anything because they don't know more than you. They really don't. Fans dictated Sonic the Hedgehog looking different in the movie,

and it ended up being a billion-dollar franchise. But you don't dismiss the fans. You hear them out, but that doesn't mean you've got to do everything they say. I hear you. Yeah, they're the reason that the state. stadium's full, the reason the team's making money, you know, the reason you have a job sometimes. You know, the fans are everything. I get it.

But they're not the final decision maker. It's like fans who are mad about how the White Lotus ended. It's like, well, guess what, dude? You didn't write it. You don't dictate everything. So it's a combination of both because you're trying to appease and please the fans, but it's not their decision. It's like our show, Rich.

Yeah, you guys want us to talk hockey. But guess what? It's our show, and I'm not talking hockey. It's like two Canadians. No, no, but you know what I'm saying? But there will be people. But there are people that want us to talk some things. And I'm like, well, that's not what we plan on doing today.

So I'm sorry. You know, we get the final decision. The fans might have wanted Luca, but he may have really believed that it was in the team's best interest to make that move. It's a good combination of it was a bad move, but I think it's a little feel of both. And he has to have that feel as GM of what the fans really want. And that's where he misstep.

It's a feel of both. And you nailed it with that because it is a combination of, All right, I do want to take the fans or, like I said, a radio show, a TV show, a podcast. I want to take into consideration what the people that are supporting want to hear, want us to do. Yeah, but they're not always going to make the smartest decisions, right? They're going to make heartfelt decisions a lot of times, and that's not a great business decision. Every time there's a managerial opening in baseball, the fans of any franchise start calling for like some retired player to be the new guy. Like, right.

You know, insert Hall of Famer that really might not be. the most qualified, but they're like, make him the manager. In other words, fans aren't in complete control, even though they want to be, we want to be sometimes. That's why Nico Harrison's making millions of dollars to make those tough decisions. Did he misread it? Yes, because Luca was an exception. He was an exceptional player, and he was exceptionally loved by the fans where it was a bad move. And, you know, he's hearing the flag from it. And for him to admit that, you could say, wow, it's refreshing. that he's taking accountability of his naivity there to not know how much the fans loved them.

Like I knew they loved them. I just underestimated it. But you could also say, man, he sounds like a bonehead because he's supposed to know that. I mean, that's like requirement one of being a, you know, management on a team, knowing what the fan base that take, you know, have the temperature of the of the room. But here's the thought that goes with it. this guy can make the greatest moves moving forward. He could eventually win a championship.

He may, and probably will forever be known as the guy who made this terrible trade, the guy who let Luca go. No doubt. Because not even a little bit forever. Nico Harrison could go on to be the GM or front office or, you know, he worked for Nike for a long time before he entered the NBA world. Yeah. You can't take anything away from his success and his resume.

He's not there because he's a swell fella. You know, he earned his way there, but he'll forever be remembered for this move. Yeah. And that's what we're getting at right now. The bad reputation one gets for one thing. The greatest example, and I'll lead it off and kick it off, besides Nico Harrison,

again, could win a championship, but always be remembered as the guy that let Luca go. Nico Harrison, you mean, oh, the GM that traded Luca? Yeah, the guy, you know, the guy, like, yeah, fire Luca. fire an eco, all that stuff, that guy. Unfortunately, and if you look at his career stats, you're like, man, he was a way better player than I thought. Bill Buckner is the classic example of what I'm talking about.

Because when you look at his stats and you realize the kind of player he was and the kind of guy he was, he was a gritty ball player with solid numbers. This is off top of my dome. I bet you he's close to 300 home runs, 287 lifetime. He was a great cub, a great player, great first baseman, forever known for that one error. And it didn't even lose the series. It changed the series.

But it didn't lose the series. And just for the record, you know, the Red Sox were winning game seven, three nothing in the sixth inning. He'll never be remembered for that stellar, solid career that he had. And that's the sad part about it. Because it was such a big moment. I get it. He's remembered for it gets by buck there,

rounding third as night, Mets wins. So that one thing that isn't accurate but truly defines your career. that's what we're getting at. What other examples come to mind? 87799 on Fox and if you're playing along at home at Covino and Rich. I'll look up Buckner's numbers.

You know, I could think of a ton. Dan Byer will not like this answer being a Seahawks guy, but we've talked about this before. Brian Bosworth was one of the coolest dudes, but you bring up Bos. Sweetest flat top too. 90% of the time his name is in conversation is because someone's talking about Bo Jackson

running over him. every time, every time. And it's, you can't have the conversation without that. You could say, well, the angle, he didn't have the right angle. It doesn't matter. It's, it's, it's how people think of Brian Bosworth. By the way, I was close. Bill Buckner, career average 289.

174 career home runs. But he played 22 years of awesome baseball and awesome defensive baseball at first base. 22 years in the big leagues. And it comes down to one moment that people never forget. got and he was forgiven before it was too late, a la curb your enthusiasm. You know, they eventually won. He caught a baby.

He caught a baby. He caught a baby out of a burning building. But again, a long stellar career, that one moment defines him, unfortunately. I think Rich wants me to comment. I will not comment and participate in the slander

of one Brian Bosworth. Yes. Who just did not have leverage at the goal line against pro Jackson. That is true. That's the problem. So I will not, I will not participate in this slander. All right, can we all agree that Jim Joyce, you wouldn't even know this umpire's name had he not messed up Gala Raga's perfect game?

Yes. This guy umpired his whole life, probably a reputable guy. And he cried about it and apologized. I'd imagine Jim Joyce even called postseason games, an illustrious career for what he did. But, oh, Jim Joyce, the guy that effed up the perfect game. I guess so. And then it was the next day that Armando Galaraga handed out the lineup card. And now I look back and it'd be like, what a sinister move by the Tigers.

because you remember Joyce got emotional at that point. Like we thought it was like a goodwill gesture and now I look back and like diabolical. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, what kind of move was that? I got one as a guy that I thought he played on a bunch of teams and, you know, an all-star. I bet you you remember having his Team USA card.

Robin Ventura. Great player. Great postseason player. Nice fellow too. But you say Robin Ventura, you pictured Nolan Ryan. I'm giving him a knuckle sandwich. hitting him in the head over and over and over. That's such a great answer because it's so unfair.

It was so out of the character of Robin Ventura to even do such a thing. He was such a slick player, such a great white sock. He was great with the Yankees still. And, you know, just a solid career. And we always remember him getting nuggies from Nolan Ryan. He didn't even want to participate. If you watched the documentary Facing Nolan, it's really unfortunate. About Nolan Ryan, it was so reluctant.

You notice Ventura hesitates at first. because there was, you know, inter squad beef going on, and the dugout vibe was, if you get hit, you're charging the pitcher. And Robin Vitoris, like, Nolan Ryan? Like, he didn't want to do it. And Ryan, the big, strong man strength, Texan sort of guy. Nolan Ryan, just not that type of player. I don't think he played with that sort of fury and fire.

He was just like a smooth player. He played 16 years in the big leagues, career batting average, 267 lower than I thought. a great player, good player, known for getting punched in the head by Nolan Ryan forever. Forever. That's the truth. So this is our version of your F-1 goat. You know, you could be the greatest guy in the world. You could have worked at, you know, every charity event, you could help little children every time you saw them. You could be great with old people. But your F-1 goat, you're forever, that guy. And if you don't know that that example is, it's like an old joke where, you know, a guy describes all this great things.

You think there's someone out there that doesn't know the F1 goat reference? But please, explain. I think people get it. I mean, explain. I don't know. I mean, you said it's a matter of fact. I mean, we know the joking reference that, you know, you can do a million things. You're the goat effort and you're the rest of your life.

That's what you're known for. Yeah. Rich, you talked about the baseball example with Robin Ventura. how about a guy in the NBA who gets posterized? And that's all they're pretty much remembered for. Like he wasn't a big star in the league, but think of Chris Dudley. He played in almost 900 games. Without a doubt.

What's the one game you remember? The one game is for me, Shaq throwing them, wrapping his legs around them and then tossing him. And then Dudley, be like, hey, hey. He gives the, like, lame. Yeah, happened in 1999. He pushed him to the ground. Hey, that's such a good one, man. Yeah, had a stellar career, right?

Think about it. You make it to the NBA. And Dudley throws the ball out of. It's an accomplishment in itself, though, right? You're one of the few. You're one of the 1% less than that that make it. Your childhood dream comes true. You're the pride of your family, the pride of your hometown, the pride of your alma mater.

You make it to the NBA and you have a great career and you're a New York Nick and you play at the garden and everything. Your last name's Dudley. That kind of sucks. But you're still up there with the big boys. Shack posterizes you, wraps the legs around you, and tosses you into the stands like a little baby boy and that's forever what you're remembered by your forever highlight is on the receiving end of being punked that's the worst that's got a sting and by the way we say that respectfully yeah you know we're fans so yeah you did it you made it but unfortunately like these

moments define you and it's not our fault you know blame pop culture i don't know why people hang on to this stuff if you want to chime in with your example 877 99 on fox shout out to our pal j Stu from the Gottlieb show. Him and I were the guy, we were talking about this in the lobby, and he came up with a great example, and it's one of Kavino's childhood heroes. This guy was, like, the king of children's programming.

Made you laugh for decades. But you touch yourself in a movie theater one time. Pee Wee Herman was the best example of... I mean, if he was going to do that, where was the appropriate place to do it? Remember, this is pre-Pornhub when you had it at your fingertips. So you're saying like Peewee really went the,

he went the right path? I'm not saying he was right in doing that. I'm saying that he's not the only guy that did it. He was just the only guy that did it that worked in children's programming that was winning Emmy Awards. I guess so. Heard any jokes lately? But the late great Peewee Herman's a great example of,

like decades of comedy and humor. And you know what happens? It often gets misconstruited. These moments turn into a bit. bad game of telephone and people always assume that he did something else. Like something far worse than that. And like, oh, yeah, I mean, he shouldn't be proud of it. But, you know, by today's standards.

By today's standards. Exactly, yeah. Everyone's on a only fans. I think Peewee's okay. All right, hey, your feedback, your phone calls will get to everyone next. We're having a lot of fun. Monday. Conveno and Rich.

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Rest and peace. Junkyard Dog. Your examples. Let's go to your phone calls and feedback. Kavino and Rich. It's Monday. We're talking about Nico Harrison. And listen,

is he forever going to be the guy that's known as the dude that traded Luca. I think he gave everybody a little more ammunition at that press conference when he said he sort of underestimated it. Yeah, if you missed it earlier, quickly, take a listen to Nico Harrison talking about trading Luca and what it meant to the fans. I did know that Luca was important to the fan base. What?

I didn't quite know it to what level. But really, the way we looked at it is, you know, if you're putting on the, if you're putting a team on the floor, it's Kyrie, Clay, PJ, Anthony Davis, and lively, we feel that's a championship caliber team, and we would have been winning at a high level, and that would have quieted some of the outrage. The fans are like... So unfortunately, we weren't able to do that, so it just continued to, you know, go on and on. How could he have not known?

I mean, I feel that way. How could he have not known? No. But even if he continues to have a stellar career as a GM, we're saying he's always going to be remembered for that. He has a bad reputation now for this one move, and it's a huge move. So any other examples of career-defining moments? I mean, it happens in life. What up, Dan Byer?

Sorry, I just want to piggyback for my own sake. Within the show, I just tweeted out the clip that you played with Nico and saying, you can say injuries in the whole deal, but when you have three of those five guys that you mentioned, be injury-prone guys. what I mean you can't use injuries as an excuse so I know you're going in a different direction and trying to find the one-off thing but in Nico's case here again solely for my social media publicity but it is it's like in that way I just don't buy his argument and Dan it doesn't have to be something necessarily super negative like the move he made here in the backlash he's getting

like just in one's life sometimes your parents hold on to the weirdest things and they always remember your one friend or ex-girlfriend by that one weird thing you did and they never let it go or drop it or Rich, you and I, we've done 120 years of radio together and people still refer to us as the guys that did the Gwokoff competition or like, hey, it's the dude bro's because we used to say dude bro a lot in our 20s, right? But people still say that and sometimes it's hard to escape those things, you know? Nico Harrison will never escape the Luca thing. He'll never escape it.

Other examples. Phones are lit. So Danny, want to start at the top of it? We'll make our way down. We'll start with Eric and Dayton. Eric, you're on the show. What's up? What's going on, dude?

What's up? First of all, awesome show. Thank you, man. What up, dude, bro? I called. I said, fire Mike Woodson, Indiana, Die Hard. Guess what? Bye, Felicia.

He gone. Boom. But also, being from Indiana, diehard Chicago Cubs fan, you don't know where I'm going with this. Yomiya Swiggy that I've been trying to win for months. Steve Bartman, Dusty Bankers. 2003, Mark Pryor's

second year in the league, first time playing in the, or throwing in the playoffs, dude gets him to a situation where it blows up and you don't take him out. He blows the game. It was game six, Dusty. Bartman didn't do anything. We could have won that game. We had an inning and a half left. And then you go on, you lose the next game.

Yeah, people forget Bartman was like one little layer of so many things that went wrong in that game and for that series. So, yeah, Bartman's a great example. Mark in Syracuse. What's up, Mark? You're on. Hey, guys. Great show. Thanks, man. Nico, and then there's the other one.

Oh, with the interview? That was... No. No. Rose, I believe, ran him over. Oh, yeah. Home plate. Yeah. Oh, Ray Fossie. Fossi. And at first, I think he was talking about when Jim Gray kept bringing up the fact that it was his first time there and the allegations. Remember when he brought him back and he kept having that awkward. interview moment. I didn't know what you were talking about.

Yeah, Ray Fosse was an all-star catcher. And he was pummeled. Yeah, it later became a Oakland-A's broadcaster. And yeah, forever people think of him as the guy that Pete Rose bulldozed. You know, this is, he made me think of something, though, when you said Jim Gray, I mean, we realize there's a whole category of this that we're

forgetting. And it's news people that say one flub, and they could be the NBC, like Chicago guy for 25 years. They could be the lead anchor, you know, for a major city for their whole life. one misstep. Like I think of the guy out here. The guy out here, there was an earthquake in L.A. Who's like the, like handsome black dude broadcaster that gets onto the table during an

earthquake and he puts his finger up in the air? Shobble. Is it Chris Shobble? That guy, I'll always, every time I see, I'm like, oh, the earthquake guy. There's people that say one flub on the news and that's their defining moment. Defining moment. Unfortunately. It's not fair, by the way. It's just what it is. And like our last caller said, sometimes you bring it upon yourself. Other times you don't, it just sticks with you for whatever reason. 87799 on Fox. Dwayne. More examples.

Dway on in Texas. What's up, Dwayne? Bought my tickets for Vegas. Nice. I'll see you there in June. That'll be nice. Hell of you have, man. If I say the name Craig Elo, what do you think of? Craig Elo? No, no, tell us.

When Jordan shot over him to win the game? Yeah, see, again, that. That completely sucks. That was a game 5 dB. If that is what you're defined by. Yeah, the famous video where you're seeing it from behind in Jordan gets the hops on the shot. That's horrible. Yeah.

You don't want to be defined by that, but is there in a way it's kind of cool? I don't know. In that case, you know what? Let's skip the line six for a second because I love Greg's example on West Hartford. Greg, you're on the show. Mark Sanchez. What do you think of? Mark Sanchez.

What about? I mean, geez. I mean, the guy had a career. where he took the Jets further than any other quarterback in the last 25 years. Mark Sanchez is a great guy. Insightful broadcaster. So how do you erase these moments then when it's unfair? Like that's unfair, right?

That's an unfair one. Lean into it maybe like, I'm butt fumble guy. I don't know. You got to reinvent yourself. You know, and along the lines of Nico Harrison on a much smaller level, our buddy Steve Phillips never outran that Mo Vaughn sort of move. I feel like that haunted him back in the day. I remember a lot of people being mad about that.

It's always the missteps that people. hold on to you. You could do a million great things. It's the missteps that people remember. So just have to wear with all to think ahead. Sometimes someone sleeps with one person they shouldn't sleep with and that's their reputation forever. Yeah. It's unfortunate. What you got, Ryan?

Tom Chambers dunking over Mark Jackson. You don't remember that? I do. I do. You know what? While you were thinking of that, I had just, I was thinking NFL. And for some reason, I realized, Cam Newton, such a, you know, a boisterous, fun

personality in sports now, you know, really thinks hive himself, thinks he's greater than everyone. People all picture Cam Newton not going for that fumble in the Super Bowl, letting that loose ball just sort of linger around him. So to me, you say Cam Newton, I think that lazy play. So some things are more forgivable than others. This Nico Harrison's still fresh and this wound is still oof, right? So I understand it. But a lot of these we hold on to and it's really not fair. Let's say how to Ronnie Then we'll go to DB for an update. Ronnie in Vegas.

Hey, what up, Ronnie? Real quick, Ronnie, what's up? Hey, guys. How are you guys going? Thanks for taking my call. Thank you, man. I want to say, Chris Weber. Dude.

Timeout. Yeah. Timeout. Yeah. I mean, perfect example of what we're talking about. Chris Weber, great, amazing college career. Great NBA career. Guy calls a timeout when there's no timeouts.

That's his, that's the lead. Those are lasting images. Lasting memories. And you got to figure out. Here's the key. Figure out a way to erase it. Please. Just got to be away.

All right. Dan Byer, what's doing, buddy? Nico Harrison still has a job as a GM. That's not the case with Landry Fields. Fired today by the Atlanta Hawks as their general manager. Just one of a few moves in the NBA. Duke freshman forward Cooper Flagg announced his intentions to enter the 2025 NBA draft. He was the consensus player of the year in college hoops in his only season in college basketball.

Led Duke to a final four, a unanimous first team all-American. American and Cooper Flags likely to be the first overall pick in the draft come late June. Bucks guard Damian Lillard's been upgraded to questionable to play in tomorrow's game two against the Pacers. Game two's tonight in the NBA playoffs, Pistons at the Knicks, 7.30 Eastern time, clippers at the Nuggets, 10 o'clock Eastern. Walker Bueller went seven and struck out nine got his third win of the season as the Red Sox won over the White Sox 4-2 on this Patriots Day. A bunch of news from the NFL, the Eagles and Center Cam Juergens agreed to terms on a four-year extension worth $68 million. Jets picked up the fifth year options on all of their 2022 first round picks.

That's Soss Gardner, Garrett Wilson and Jermaine Johnson. And Rich, Mike Silver of the athletics, says the 49ers are far apart on extension talks with Todd and George Kittle. And there have been no substantial talks that is on a new deal for linebacker, Fred Warner. As for Brock Purdy's deal, going to be north of $50 million as the sides continue to talk. See, everything you said there hurts my feelings. It's over three. You just told me they're far apart on Kittle and Warner, and Brock's going to make over 50.

Good night. It's over. My Niners lost their window. If they can't figure this out, window closed, and I hate to say that. Fred Warner and George Kittle is so much more important than Brock Purdy in this bigger situation. Sorry, Rich. That's right, buddy. Sorry about that, man.

Hey, thanks, Dan Byer. Sorry. Thanks, DB. Dan Byer. All right. We'll take the rest of your phone calls and feedback next again. the Nico Harrison moments in your life and your F1 goat

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overpriced. Now, do we have more examples, more fun here, a la Nico Harrison. You say or do one thing and everything else you do in your career sort of takes backseat to that one moment. Yeah, guys, I didn't give you my nominee and I thought that the caller hit it on the head. There's some stuff that happened to you and some stuff that you do. PJ Carlisciamah was a great college basketball coach at Seton Hall, led him to a national championship game called games for years. he'll always be known as the guy that was choked by Latrell Spreewell. Like the coach that was choked by Litton.

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Yeah, Nico Harrison brought this upon himself for being naive to not even know that it would be this impactful, right, by his own admission. Let me ask you this. And then there's people like Dan Byron brought up where like Michael Moore, the boxer, he's not known for being a heavyweight champion. He's known for being knocked out by George Foreman, the oldest heavyweight champion of the world. But he brought up a coach. I was going to say, tell me what you picture when I say Van Gundy. He's holding on to the leg of, who was it? Alonzo Morning's leg.

Yeah, and his hair flopping around. His comb over. Sometimes it's those moments like, man. But on a lighter level, too, like I said, remember your parents hold on to weird things? One time, you know my example. One time when I was a kid,

I told my mom I liked the Rick Astley song. One time. Never gonna give you hope. And my mom's never going to stop bringing it up. Oh, Stephen loved Rick Astley. Never going to give. Never going to give. Remember you used to love Rick Astley?

Like, Mom, I was 11? I said it one time. And she still. thinks that. So sometimes you just can't outrun this weird reputation because we hang on to the weirdest things. I think it exposes a problem with society too. It's like, man, we

really hold on to the bad stuff, huh? Rapid Fire! Cross Fire! Let's go to Damon. Bakersfield. You start and we'll go quick. What's up, man? Hey, just want to remind you guys that it also works the opposite way. And Rich, you should know about an icon we got for the Mets by the name of

Indy Chavez. Played 13 years. They didn't even get a thousand hits. I think he 30 home runs, but he can't buy a beer in New York walking down the street. Yeah, because you're right. It could work the opposite. You do something good, and that's your reputation, a la Odell Beckham Jr. The guy's a good wide receiver, but a circus catch early in his career that might be one of the greatest catchers you've ever seen in your life, sort of paved the way, I think, for the guy's next 10 years.

So if you're getting to the root of what we're discussing is defining moments, and Nico Harrison definitely has his. outrun this reputation he has now. Kelvin and Indy, what's up? You guys are the best, y'all, the most awesome, and I listen to y'all all the time coming home for work. I just want to mention two, a couple of people in what you see, what y'all think about it.

I thought about, what about the people, Cleveland Browns and James Whiston. I don't know if they're going to ever get over that, all that money, all that investing him, and the guy wasn't clear, and they don't know if he even rehabbed, they got help for that. and then also I'm from Indianapolis so I'm from Lamar I remember Lamar Odom was in high school

and my son then grew up with Lamar Odom and they called me on draft night and said dad I can't believe Portland gave him all that money they don't know what we know you know I thought you're going to say crab legs when you brought up James Winston and I think that's a great way to maybe move past it when you really own it

and he's owned it recently you know maybe then you move forward but he was talking about the Sean Watson That's what I thought. I think he was talking about Watson, but he said that's what I was expecting to your crab legs. Some people could point to James Winston though and say laptop computer or crab legs. Right, right.

And didn't he recently just dance around wearing a crab outfit? Yeah, he, you know, he owns it. You got to make, you got to, when you include yourself in on the joke or something, I think it's officially over. So maybe that's the best way to do it. Greg in Ohio. What's up, man? Well, actually, that's Jeff in Colorado.

We'll go to Jeff. Hey, Jeff. You know, Jeff in Colorado here. I'm a Jags fan, so I can't remember the guy who got posterized by Sequin jumping backwards over him. But maybe history will be. Yeah, you know, there's always someone on the receiving end of a great play, unfortunately. But that's sports, right? And by the way, I'm sorry, I think the laptop, that was Cam Newton, right?

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What's up, buddy? Hey, guys. Hopefully you had a good weekend. This guy, me and my heart goes out to him because I doubt he could really go anywhere in Buffalo and really be admired. But Scott Norwood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great example.

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