The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Overreaction Monday

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

Colin discusses Bryson DeChambeau winning the US Open in dramatic fashion over Rory McIlroy and why golf needs more moments like this Once again causal fans are getting upset over how the think Caitlin Clark is being treatedSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. It is a Monday. We are live in Los Angeles. It's the herd wherever you may be. And however, you may be watching or listening. Thanks for making us part of your day One hour from now where Colin was right Where Colin was wrong Now this week because of all the soccer European soccer

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I was talking to the staff this morning about this. This usually is a time that we need to wedge NFL stories in to like the NBA playoffs. But we've got so many things going on between the Live and the PGA tour in the U.S. Open and Caitlin Clark. There's a lot of stuff that we just didn't talk about in previous years. It's been fantastic. Caitlin Clark is kind of sort of dominating weekends in sports right now. It's crazy.

And the ratings show it. So Rory collapsed, Bryson DeChambo, I don't know if I recall a guy turning around his PR in a year's time. Now, he's suddenly relatable and likable. He didn't play great yesterday, but good enough to win as Rory collapsed. But if you want to know why I was never loyal to the PGA, and I defended golfers going to the live tour, taking advantage of a financial opportunity,

a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, yesterday is why. two great alpha golfers. One stayed with a PGA. One went to the live tour. It was USA versus Europe. It was PGA versus the live tour. But I wasn't watching because of the PGA. I'm not loyal to golf PGA establishment.

I'm loyal to golfers. I will say the Masters does feel like it has pull as a course. But yesterday was great drama. One guy collapsing. one guy surging. Bryson DeCambo. Suddenly relatable. Two alphas both long off the tour,

trying to reclaim past glory. I didn't watch it because of some golf association. That's what golf is on television. It could be Nicholas and Army. It could be Tiger and Phil. It doesn't matter to me. I'm watching for the golfers. I felt bad for Rory.

He doesn't miss putts like that. He did. You could sense the tension. But the PGA did. did not bring me to a television set. Two alphas long off the T. Rory can't win those majors. Deschamboed won a U.S. Open.

Could it be a second? He's not playing great, but he's holding on with his new image, his new PR. This is where I supported them. And when these guys left the PGA tour, all the traditionalists, who are big hypocrites, all the old heads were bothered. Really? If you went to all those golf traditionalists,

50, 60, 70 years old, and you inspected their lives. They have left companies. They have formed new companies. They have left jobs because they weren't treated well. And that's what Greg Norman and Phil Mickelson complained about for a decade. We can't even own our YouTube channels. We can't own our social rights. We got to golf with amateurs.

We don't get appearance fees. Treat stars like stars or they leave. Like you want to be treated if you're in a law firm, you're a partner, you're the best, and you're not treated like it. And here comes another law firm. You're going to take the phone call. So I never buy everybody I've said before is morally flexible. Everybody to some degree is a hypocrite. I support great golf.

I'm rooting for Rory and Bryson DeShambo. Couldn't give a rip about the golf association that supports him. here's Bryce and after. As much as it is hard break for some people, I mean, you know, it was hard break for me at the PGA, and I really wanted this one. And I turned the corner and saw I was a couple back and I said, nope, I'm not going to let that happen. I need to focus on figuring out how to make this happen. And I was a little lucky.

Rory didn't make a couple of puts that he could have coming in. I had an amazing up and me down in the last. I don't know what else to say. It's a dream cremptu. For the record, it is now up to the PGA and the Live Tour to merge, but never forget how strident the PGA was. All these traditional golf formations, platforms. Oh, they were very strident, very anti-Live in what they stood for.

And then you found out a few months, four, five, six, seven, eight months later, they were taken theirs to be always, be very, very, very careful around highly strident people who live very rigid lives, the rigid senator, the rigid governor, the rigid sports traditionalists, were all hypocrites to some level. Yesterday was great TV and you weren't watching for any other reason than two alpha males long off the T. We all had emotional connections to both. I was kind of rooting for Rory to win. He didn't, but now I like Bryson DeCambeau, who's, you know,

has kind of tweaked his image. He's very, very relatable and likable sign for over two and a half hours with every kid and every person, every fan that wanted an autograph. I'm here for it. But that was great TV. Now merge and figure out how to give us more of this, not just in the majors. All right, so people freaked out. This stuff is so predictable.

Everybody's freaking out with Caitlin Clark. Angel Reese is picking on her and hard fouls. Okay. Major League Baseball is a good comp here. Because Major League Baseball in the WNBA always feel like they're ignored. Very protective of, you know, there's a way to play the game, very insular. It's very much a pay-your-due's mentality. So when good-looking, cool Bryce Harper came into Major League Baseball,

basically out of high school and a little minor league, he got into a fistfight with one of his teammates. They were throwing at him. It was very much, oh, you're the prodigy, you're the hot shot. And it didn't last six, seven games. It lasted like three years. You've heard a lot of this preachy stuff. There's a way to play the game.

Baseball's very, very insular. There's a way to play the game. There's unwritten rules, although players can never tell me what the unwritten rules are. They change per player. and the WNBA similarly ignored, lamenting the publicity, and here comes the Iowa hot shot, and it's pay your dues time. And they're pushing her around, there's flagrant fouls. The WNBA, to a fault, has a little bit of us versus everybody else.

And Caitlin Clark's an outsider, and they're going to make her pay her dues. We've seen this in music. Remember the VMA Awards, Kanye West Taylor Swift? I've seen this stuff before and so have you. Is it race? Is it jealousy? Probably a little bit of both. There's all sorts of things converging here.

You see it in fraternities, hazing. You see it in military. Insular, very tribal, certain societies. This is how we operate. By the way, when I used to take phone calls, when I just did radio, every guy that called defended hazing. So why does this bother you? You loved hazing.

You defended hazing. This is hazing. But not nearly as ugly as the private hazing that we've had historically at fraternities and the military. It's a flagrant foul of which the NBA and the WNBA have about the same number per game. NBA had 130 this year. WNBA last year had like 65, which is half, but they have half. the games. So again, to me, this is all very predictable. It is the WNBA. This is what Bryce Harper went through. He went through it for years. I don't think she will. She's a very good basketball player.

She's getting better. She's now at 16 a game, six assists, five rebound. She's great with the ball in her hands. She's fantastic. She sees the floor. She's a brilliant passer. It's all working out. But this is predictable that the media doesn't quite know what to do with it. Yet the women, Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark do. Here's the post game. It's just a part of basketball. It is what it is. You know, she's trying to make a play on the ball and get the block. But yeah, I mean, it happens. I think it's just the emotion and the passion that we play with.

I think people love to see that. And I think that's maybe not something that was always appreciated in women's sports. And it should be. I think that's what makes it fun. Like people are, we're competitors. That's the way the game should be. It's going to get a little feisty. It's going to get physical.

but at the end of the day, both teams are just trying to win. This is a win for women's basketball. These flagrant fouls are a win. Yeah, I defended Draymond Green forever, so I'm going to be outraged by this. It's a flagrant foul. She got up and played. Okay. Like, there's a reason.

There's a classification for this foul because you get about 130 year in the NBA. And by the way, women who have committed flagrant fouls, are not all villains. Diana Tarasi had one last year. Is she a villain? No. It's part of basketball. It's, you know, every industry has got a little ugly side, a little provincial side, a little tribal side. This is it in basketball, NBA and the WNBA.

But I'll say it again. The women are figuring out how to handle it. It's the people who parachute into this sport that never watch it that don't understand the shippiness that you get in the WNBA. When I was a local sports anchor and let's say my local team, the Portland Trailblazers or somebody did very, very well, then the news anchors who didn't know sports would suddenly start talking sports and try to cover it. And I'm like, no, you don't understand.

That's just sports. I'm feeling a lot of that here where people that don't watch the WNBA, I'm one of them, parachute in and are outraged. and spare me on your outrage when like six months ago you didn't know the league existed you can have an opinion that's not that's counter to mine or doesn't align with mine but i i'm so over outrage everybody's outraged on the internet everybody's outraged on tictock give me a break if you didn't know something existed six months ago or didn't watch it i'm not interested in your outrage today katelyn's fine angel reese is excellent they're part

probably maybe the best WNBA rookie class of all time. Take a deep breath. We're all, especially Caitlin Clark, going to be okay. All right. By the way, J.J. Reddick. It looks like he's getting those suits fitted for the Lakers sideline. Is that happening this week?

We're getting J.J. Reddick to the Lakers. I'd rather just have you listen to you rant about Caitlin Clark for another 30 minutes. It's a fun topic, Colin. she's become the most polarizing athlete in sports and weirdly she said nothing she has not invited the polarization like you know Aaron Rogers will pop off about politics and stuff LeBron will get into that

Caitlin Clark's done nothing but everybody has an opinion on her weirdly yeah Caitlin's very much like Dak Prescott of the Cowboys Jerry can say something crazy you can have a Kaepernick issue social change in America and Dak always went to the podium as the Dallas Cowboy quarterback, and kind of put a wet blanket on it and said,

we're all okay, we're all fine. That is part of leadership, by the way. Part of, it's my hat on forwards, backwards, rant. I don't care about other players doing that. I've always said at the Wednesday press conference, don't start fires, put them out. You know, Baker Mayfield came into this league. He started fires.

Baker, now, if you listen to him, puts them out. That's the difference. Caitlin Clark is doing it, Dak Prescott. She's very much putting out fires. that is part of leadership. She's obviously got tremendous leadership qualities. Dak Prescott doesn't throw the prettiest ball. I've said for years,

he is as good as any quarterback. He and Brady at the podium or literally could teach a class on what you say at the podium. As Jerry Jones is saying, it's up crazy, and there's a controversy in Micah and Ciddy Lamb. And Dak's like, I'm going to bet it myself. Not that kind of betting. Ha, ha, ha.

Everything's fun. Everything's easy. at ease. She is a great leader. And Angel Reese is playing a little bit of the villain. Villains are part of sports. The Baltimore Ravens franchise with Ray Lewis.

They love being the villains. It was good for the brand. It was good with that rivalry with New England. New England, by the way, in their dynasty was viewed as villains. Deflate Gate, Spigate Gate. Villains are part. But they invited it with DeFlate Gate and SpyGate. They invited

that. Clark is not invited anything. Harper invited? I'd have to give him more thought. Good looking guy who loved baseball that didn't play the way. That's fair. He hasn't really invited. Not all people invite Heat.

Some people want it. Sometimes you're a prodigy. Sometimes there's jealousy isn't about the star. Jealousy's about people that view the star as a threat. Caitlin Clark is viewed as a threat to some of the players, but she didn't create it. Exactly. She hasn't done anything.

You said don't start fires, put them out. Angel Reese started a fire when she closed line Clark. If you want to put the fire out, oh, my bad. Reach down and help to pick them up. Watch Angel Reese's reaction after she closed lines her. Just turns around the other way like, screw her. Like that's what that. We've all found somebody hard in hoops.

Well, that's true. I'll reach down my bad, my fault. That's my bad. Yeah, but this is professional. This is a rivalry. Nobody's helping LeBron off the floor or Bill Lambier and his prime off the floor. these are rivalries. Also, people are setting up, setting the tone.

This is going to be the rivalry, Caitlin. You come into the lane. I'm not helping you up. I'm going after it. Is that how you operate? You knock somebody down. You're not helping it all? No, but I mean, I've seen it my whole life in basketball.

I mean, there's the unsp-you know, here's the unwritten rule in basketball for guards. All right, you can get to the basket. Here come the trees. Steph Curry, you want to come and score at the basket? Do a little floater and embarrass me? My elbow might meet your forehead. That is basketball. That's thug life right there.

No, that's prison rules. That's basketball. No, that's not basketball. Hey, you try to... Yeah, David Stern loved that NBA. It would lead to fights. They had to stamp that out, Colin. Get rid of that nonsense to help the league.

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there have been earlier documented reports that have said AD is a little bit of an outsider in that relationship. So it's a fork in the road time for the Lakers. If I had to choose LeBron or AD, even though LeBron is the Lakers primary playmaker, that's more of an indictment on the Lakers franchise. AD is eight years younger. He's in his prime now,

much better defensively, seems to be over the nagging health issues. As the league is getting bigger, with the Janus and the Yokic and just more great Chet Holmgren and Wembe, you've got to have a big. And AD is a spectacular defensive player and also a high-end A-minus offensive player. He's also a known commodity in his prime, LeBron's not. He's also under contract through 2028.

You could pair him now with a young star or three years from now and you'd be viable. That can't be said with LeBron James. who doesn't historically like playing with young guys. There's also more flexibility with AD because he is closer to his prime. I think this year may have been the last year of his prime because the injuries have aged him. But again, LeBron's your number one playmaker and jersey seller, but he's not on any given night in a growing league of big men. AD is more valuable, especially on the defensive end.

So J.J. Reddick feels like a LeBron guy. And this is the one thing that's interesting. Try to view this from Anthony Davis's perspective. So Anthony Davis has given up a lot to be on LeBron's team. He could have signed with any agency. He signed with Clutch. He decided to leave the Pelicans and took a ton of crap for it. He'll play center a position he'd rather not play.

he listened to LeBron on that snazzy Russell Westbrook move that was a disaster. So think about this. He signed an agency with LeBron. He took the heat when he left New Orleans on LeBron. He's willing to play a position he'd rather not with LeBron. It's been LeBron's franchise. And now he's saying, y'all, I'd love to be, my head coach, to be LeBron's podcasting partner. So you start looking at it from AD's.

perspective, and you could see where he would be a little uncomfortable with the dynamic, as LeBron is now going to be 40, and AD is saying, how many more things do I have to give up to appeal to LeBron? I mean, to me, it's a fork in the road for the organization. I'm not anti-J.J. Redick. I think he's a smart guy. But because the Lakers have waited and waited and waited, they're not going to get the best staff. Okay?

That's already been picked apart by four other coaches who hired staff. So the best people on the market are overwhelmingly gone. So it's going to be kind of a, you know, a ham and egg, whatever's left over staff. And the league's not full of dummies. These coaches know the Lakers run through coaches. They've had like, what, seven and 13 years? So it's not a very attractive place to be a marginally paid assistant coach with a rookie head coach. with a rookie head coach,

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Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News. All right, let's start with the NBA finals. Colin. Game four Friday night was a disaster for Boston. Dallas rolled 122 to 84. I think they led by like 48 points at one point. The Mabbs pulled their starters at the end of the third quarter.

They didn't play it. Fourth was all garbage time. I don't know if you watch this game while you were vacation. I watched a little early and not decided halftime. It was time to go have some fun. No point, yeah, certainly. Jalen Brown said the Celtics are not feeling down despite the poor performance. These are the moments that, you know, can make you or break you.

We got to reassemble. We got to look at it. We got to learn from it. And then we got to embrace it and attack it. It's going to be hard to do what we're trying to do. And we don't expect anything to be easy. But there's no reason to lose our head, you know, to be capped. The Dallas, they came out and they played well.

And we just got to be better on the next one. Boston will win tonight by 8 to 10. Favor by 6.5? Yeah, I'll take Boston to win and cover. It's weird to see. I don't want to try to make it interesting, but Porzingis misses game three and four. If you look quarter by quarter, the Celtics really only won one of those quarters. Game three third quarter.

I think you just have to throw out game four. It doesn't exist. Okay. So does Porzingis play tonight? Probably a little, and that's all I need. I like him more on the rim protection than I care about on the offensive end. Just have him for a little, take the lobs out. So game four is, I mean, listen, we all know this in the NBA.

Game three, if you lose two on the road, game three is usually yours, and it wasn't. So Dallas is going to play with pride. And it's also, it's hard to tell the Celtics. I mean, you're looking at Boston thinking, we can wrap this thing up at home. That's way cooler. It's just natural for people to take their foot off the gas. I'll try to build a case. So Boston loses game four.

They head home. They're like, oh, we get to celebrate game five at home. And all weekend, their friends and family are peppering them with requests for tickets, party, after party. And I just, is there a world where Boston's not totally locked in here tonight because of all the side subplot stuff? And Luca comes in not yelling with the refs and not arguing and not complaining. And Dallas is, this is a veteran grown-up team. I don't think.

This is Drew Holiday and Tatum and Brown. It's high IQ. These aren't a bunch of young goofballs. Boston is just, even they're younger guys are like mature. Derek White. So this is not their first rodeo, as you say. Boston's been in this spot before where they came home against Golden State and lost all their momentum and lost the finals. I think Boston's going to be totally locked in.

And from the very beginning, you're going to feel like Boston's the better team. They're going to lead by three or four most of the game. Put it away late. Yeah, I don't, no bet for me. Weird. I just don't feel confident. I don't understand this series. Porzingis in, Porzingis out.

lively has finally turned a corner, it seems like. I mean, what we're going to say if Boston wins is, they didn't even need Porzingis to not only win the finals, unprecedented roll through the East and the finals without Porzengas. So if you're, you can talk yourself into the Nick Surge or the Sixers. This is Boston's conference for the foreseeable future. Keep an eye on those Indiana Pacers coming on. Next of the Dallas Cowboys, obviously a big summer ahead.

They still have three decisions to make on arguably, there are three best players. Dak, CD, Lamb, and Micah Parsons. All are due for contract extensions very soon. The team is reportedly prioritizing their QB and looking to get DAC's deal done first. I know you're less a DAC guy. There was a number.

You were out Friday that we talked about. DAC is interested in $60 million a year. Go ahead. And unlike the Trevor Lawrence deal, which doesn't kick in for two more years. It would kick in tomorrow. Dax would kick in, yeah. And that's not great when you got C.D. Lamb and Micah. I don't know.

I know he was a runner up for the MVP last year, D.C. He was excellent. I was that home game against Green Bay. Well, they absolutely blown out, couldn't move the football. With an offensive coach, with C.D. Lamb. What about the other, like, 17 games? They just don't count. It was all about the time.

count. But, you know, we're all, everything counts. But there's, there's, if Brady would have never won a Super Bowl and put up the same numbers, Joe Montana would be the goat. Like, it does matter what you do in mid-January and February. Yeah. That defines it. Eli Manning's going to get into the Hall of Fame because of two games, both played in February. Like, that's the difference. Philip Rivers had a better career. If you take out February, if you just take out February, Philip Rivers is better than Eli Manning. But Philip never ended up playing in February. And Eli did and went two and oh.

That's the difference between their careers. Phillips better all the months except February. And that gets Eli into the Hall of Fame. What do you think Micah Parsons and Ciddy Lam think when they hear Dax's going to get paid first? I mean, they've got to understand that, right? That would be like our contracts are up and Fox is like we got to prioritize McIntyre over Cowherd. Like you're the quarterback. I'm a team player, whatever's best.

Wow, love to hear that. Final story, no word yet. Drake May will be the starter for the Patriots in week one. The team is hoping he will be their quarterback of the future. Quarterbacks these days don't get a ton of time to prove themselves in the league. And Tom Brady shared some of the advice he had for May and his development heading into his rookie year. So I'm very fortunate to be around him, and I like him a lot. I've heard great things about him.

But, you know, his opportunity is going to be really what he makes of it. and how he wants to develop it and how he wants to attack his profession like we all do it's not where you're at when you're 22 it's who you're around when you're 22 right you know who inspires you to be better who develops you that's exactly right now who's developing drake may again i miss that well he needs some help it's not it's not the best situation i feel bad for i think drake may has big time upside i just don't think we'll see you're a big drake may fan i would have him over Daniels or two. Yeah, I was more Daniels, you were more Drake, May.

You'll probably end up being right. Well, Drake... You got Kingsbury. I don't even know who the Patriots OC is. The head coach, we know he's a defensive guy. Yeah. Weapons, better in Washington. We said, I think both you and I said before the draft, whoever New England drafts, that's the toughest uphill climb.

That's the toughest spot. Caleb Williams could have gone there. You're going to struggle there. They're just not Alex Van Pelt. No relation to Scott. He's their offensive coordinator. The former like Pittsburgh Panthers quarterback. He's bounced around the league, but I think he's respected.

Yeah, good luck, Alex Van Gogh. The thing with Drake May is you've got to be patient. Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels have a lot of starts, and they're more refined, and they're more athletic. They're ready to play. You don't have to be as patient with them. If by the year two Thanksgiving, Caleb and Jaden Daniels are just not, it doesn't look good, I'd be concerned.

Drake May, don't even watch this season. I don't even care. He needs a year of just exhibition, backup practice. His career should start after this year. He's not ready to start in this league. He's not close to him. Mack Jones didn't have a lot of years starting. He was closer to starting than Drake.

Drake May's footwork is bad. He didn't Matt Jones beat out Cam Newton for the starting job? Yeah, I mean, Mac was more ready to play. Drake May is footwork needs work, accuracy needs work. He is a project. Could be good, but he needs a lot of work. We all do. J. Mack with the news.

Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. Clay Thompson unfollow the Warriors on social. That's so funny to me. Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers. This whole thing is great, isn't it?

Robert Sala had a fascinating quote this weekend or at the end of their OTA. And it wasn't directed at Aaron Rogers, although he did call the Aaron Rogers. although he did call the Aaron Rogers absence unexcused. Now whether or not he should have said that, he did say it. They called it an event and unexcused. But

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Listen, this England squad is very likable. That's usually the case. And Jude Bellingham, big time rising star, had an awesome goal. Yeah. I love soccer. You do too. Yeah. No, I watch a lot of it.

So we have the Euros at FS-1, the European championships. And there's Coppa, which we're involved in. We better win that thing. Or Burhalter could lose his job. You guys. By the way, as a soccer guy, this idea, everybody's man overboard because we got beat by Colombia. And then a week later, we not only have a draw with Brazil, we have a chance to win

it. Can we take a deep breath? And the Brazilian coach said, I don't know what you guys are complaining about. These guys are all overseas in good leagues playing. You got a lot of good players, a lot of good skill. It's just, here's what I've learned about American soccer fans in my life. It's always the coach. Because soccer fans have always, they've always had this, is that there's this thing, much like the WNBA, they feel ignored, so they have this huge chip on their shoulder. and instead of just acknowledging our players aren't as good as Chili's, Argentina, Brazil, England, which they're not, it's easier to just say it's the coaching.

Instead of going, we don't have the players. Now, we finally do have a set of highly skilled players, but we are really young. Young people and young athletes, highs, low. So we play Colombia, we're terrible. We play Brazil, we're great. This isn't the Boston Celtics. Drew Holliday, Tatum, Brown, poor zinc, like old veterans.

The Celtics mostly give you the same game every night. They're going to give you one stinker against the Mavericks. Young people and young teams tend to be up, down, up down, OKC, up down, up down, and so Indiana, by the way, is a young team. You don't know exactly what you get. So our United States men's national team is young, and they can, and they bail quick, and then when they're in a fight, they can give you this elevated effort.

But it's my whole life, it could be Steve Arena, it could be Yergen Cleansman. It's always the coach, instead of acknowledging, we do not have a top six group of athletes in the world. We never have. That's fair. That being said, you know, Burrhalter was a coach in 2022. They had an okay run. He beefed with Raina, their budding young star.

How to draw with England. You don't get many, I mean, you don't see coaches get multiple World Cups usually to figure it out. There's some pressure on Burrhalter. Like you said, we got a lot of young talent. We need someone that can harness that and make a run. The World Cup's here, Colin, it better be like quarterfinals, semifinals, or bust. This can't be no group stage exit here. It's a big one for us.

They got out of the group stage with. Barely. Yeah, well, time out. Like the Green Bay Packers last year, it was historically young. We didn't have, how many players did we have in our prime in the last World Cup? None. Yeah, that's fair. Maybe a goalie, Matt Turner.

And we didn't know a year before the tournament whether he was going to be the goalie. So we had no players in their prime. What I'm about to say is true in all sports. The teams that win championship usually have their top five or six players overwhelmingly in their prime. Right now, Tatum Prime. Brown prime. Derek White entered his prime. Porzingis, because of his injury,

is late prime. Drew Holidays out of his prime. The heart, okay, Luca moved into his prime. Kyrie, end of his prime. Lively pre-prime. But you're seeing PJ Washington in his prime. Right? Like, so, now, can you win when your veteran players,

like the warriors, are kind of out of their prime, but you meet the Celtics in the final? and they got a bunch of guys who aren't quite in their prime, there are outlier championships. But the United States men international team, last World Cup, we had nobody in their prime, and we got out of the group stage and had a draw with England. That is overachieving.

Now, will this group get out of their group? Now, it depends on the draw, but I would say you have to get out of the group. They will. It's minimum. And it's two years. It's still two years, a little less than two years.

Yeah, they will be, and I've said, And I usually am like a blanket, a wet blanket on the United States Ben's national team rankings. But I do feel like this group, we can compete with, we can compete with the top two or three teams in the world. We shouldn't be favored, but I think, and I've never felt that. I've never felt we could go play Brazil in the World Cup. And it's like, no, we can, or France. I'm like, no, we can compete. Yeah.

We can be attacking. We don't have to play defensive soccer and just try to win one nothing. You know, we've always had great goal play, but it's always the coach. Whatever fans, fans are overly emotional. Whenever they blame the coach, it's a lack of awareness or a lack of an ability to say maybe our players aren't as good. It's like when you blame the refs, you miss 12 free throws, nine turnovers in the second half, and you're blaming the ref on a go-either-way call. It's not the officiating.

We're going to be okay. Now, the Jets is interesting. They just had, Aaron Rogers showed up for the voluntary minicamp, but he didn't show up to this minicamp. Albert Breer will join us top of next hour to explain potentially where he's at. But it's a choice. I wouldn't have made it with a new offensive line, a lot of new pieces, new receivers, a coach on the hot seat, and I took four snaps last year. I would have showed up.

But he didn't. Robert Sala After This mini camp Said the next 40 days Before we go Into the official season

The official camp for season He calls it phase me We've always called the next The next part So after this is phase me You know you have phase one, two, three And I phase me and it's the 40 days 40 days off

And it's a great opportunity for the individual player to be selfish to himself. It's a great opportunity to create separation on the competition with the way they approach you off season. You can go to the beach and party and drink or you can hit the gym and hydrate. You can gain ground on your competition. You can separate from your competition or you can lose your entire 24 season or the way you approach his next 40s. Yeah, he calls it phase me. Unfortunately for Aaron Rogers, all the phases, as Robert Sola found out, are phase me. You've heard of Taze me, bro.

Aaron is, this is the phase me, bro. Aaron went on vacation. It may have been an ayahuasca retreat, and I'm being serious. Whatever it was, it's a choice. He made it with new O-line, new receivers, coach in the hot seat, four snaps last year. Not one I would have done. But I do think, I think you can miss the voluntary OTAs.

I wouldn't miss, you know, the three-day, non-voluntary OTA-8, not what I would do. But I can tell you this for sure, because I think I know where he spent time on this recent sojourn. I can tell you this for sure. The Green Bay Packers, a winning franchise, the Jets aren't, are laughing their arses off. This is absolute validation for what they went through the last couple of years with Aaron.

They are just smirking, laughing. at the Jets. And go ahead, downplay it. It's no big deal. That's what Jet fans do. Every offseason when there's noise, it's no big deal. You've been on that 12-year heater of it's no big deal, and you haven't made the playoffs in any of them.

So it's not the end of the world. But it's a choice, and Aaron's choices over the last five or six years have always considered Aaron first. He could have had vacation 40 days of it. I'd be honest with you. He didn't have to be at camp now. They call it Faze Me. That's what Robert Sallet calls it.

He could have done this anytime. They didn't want to. That's fine. It's not the end of the world. But I say often, everything is something. Nothing is everything. So it's something. And J. Mack, as a longtime loyalist to the New York Jets,

You don't love this. You don't love it. I said Friday I was at my breaking point with this. It's just one nonsense after the other. And it's... Are you surprised that your Jets brethren are defending it? Well, that's the weird part. All these Jets fans are like, Jason, just fall in line.

Come on. We got to support Rogers. And, you know, they're right about one thing. Come week one, I'm going to be rooting for Rogers and cheering him on. But this is just constant drama. It's like self-inflicted wounds, left and right. It doesn't look great for Robert Sala. If Rogers is the one he's counting on to carry him to the next season.

You and I would both agree. If we had a list of coaches on the hot seat, Mike McCarthy has to win, I think Robert Sala has to win. And McCarthy's got a Super Bowl ring. McCarthy's winning 12 games. Robert Sala has a bad win-loss record. Like if they get off to a one-and-five, one and six start.

Now, I don't think they will. But if it gets ugly, he's in big trouble. He could be the number one coach on the hot seat. So for no other reason that you're kind of giving your coach a life preserver. You're kind of, you know, it's almost like it's a game. And by the way, the minute he called it an unexcused event, Aaron reached out to his media buddies to cover his arse. So there's already, you know, Aaron's always been passive aggressive with the media. He has his plants, he has his peeps, and if a coach says something or somebody does something,

he makes sure to spread the message that, so Aaron did not like, I'm told, did not like the unexcused absence comment from Sala. So there's already a weird dynamic coach and quarterback. You know, listen, Sala really did step in it. PR 101, like, what are you doing? The basics. That was bad. They can overcome this.

It is only June, right? I mean, there'll be a brush fire around the league. We might have one in the next half hour. Someone just went on TikTok and did something stupid, not Jets related. But in the NFL. So, like, hopefully people will move on and we're on to the next disaster. The Jets getting into a habit. This is what Green Bay fans did the last two years.

They downplayed it. No big deal, they'd say in Green Bay. It was a big deal to Brian Gudengoon's who shipped into the Jets. That validated every opinion we had. You can go to your message boards and say it wasn't a big deal. It was a big enough deal for Rogers to get out of that ayahuasca darkness thing, and they said, see ya. And he didn't see it coming. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.

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