The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 1 - Raiders, Jimmy G, NIL

Episode Date: July 20, 2022

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Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1, one hour from now. My NFL predictions, every division, I am allowed two amendments that's self-imposed today before we start camps. So the rookies are starting to report today and tomorrow. So I'll give you my predictions. Line them up. And then I get two amendments.

One middle of the, you know, training camps and preseason, then one as we head into the NFL season. Very excited today. A lot to talk about Joy Taylor. How are you? Great. That is exciting because that means football is bad. You know what's great.

It snuck up on us. I was talking to a New York friend the other day and he said, do you like living out west? And I said, it's a great example. I watched the All-Star game last night. Yeah. And then after the all, because it starts at 4.30 out here. And by the time it was done, I went to a shishi, boogie Hollywood party. You know, I was very shocked that you went to a Hollywood party last night.

I didn't really fit there. It's not really your move, generally. Not my move. But when there is a big event in town, you, will step out. I will. And I did. She steps out. She'll go to El Salvador tomorrow. I was at a Hollywood party last night also. Oh, you were. Not the same one. All right. So I want to start with this. There are two types of people. People that are about the destination and people that are about the journey. The destination crowd tends to be, this is what I'm going to do and this is where I'm going to end up.

I want to work real hard. I get a pension. I put money away. I want to retire. I want to retire. hire early and play golf with a lot of money to do things. And then there's the journey crowd, which is I'm going to kind of live my life day to day, have fun. It's not about the destination. I want to live every day kind of uniquely and grow. And now, I think that's a healthier way to live. The reason I think it's healthier because very few people end up with the money or the

perfect destination. So what happens as you get older, you get bitter. If you live a life worried about how to get this destination and this. country club and this group and this community and you're not going to hit it. The chance of you hitting it are like 1%. You're going to be bitter. Whereas if you just live a journey and it's not about this ultimate destination, I think you're a happier person.

And I talk about that because baseball tends to be more destination. The NFL tends to be more journey. The NFL's always growing, always experimenting. You don't have to push them into new things. They don't see this is where we want to be. They're just always moving. Baseball's like, we got our traditions, we got our stadiums, we make a lot of money, they really struggled to move off things.

And I'll give you an example. The All-Star game last night on Fox, Alec Manoa, you know, they were micing these players. And it was fantastic because now television companies, multiple TV companies, have gone to baseball to convince them to try new stuff. That game last year, White Sox Yankees out in a cornfield was absolutely fantastic. It's absolutely fantastic. Last night's All-Star. I don't know. Alex Manoa, who is that?

By the end of the game, you're like, this is unbelievable. I can't believe anybody can ever hit a baseball going that fast. And then the home run derby the night before on ESPN, they put clocks on it. I still think baseball has a lot of work to do because I think they struggle. They're more of a death. If they were a person, they'd be a destination person. We got our Yankee Stadium and Fenway in our traditions. We've got our money.

We've got our rules. And people slowly are trying to push baseball. Rob Manfred is getting eaten alive by his fans. He's trying to do a little NFL thing. Like we may do robot umpires. We're going to put clocks on stuff. All these things are, the NFL would do in one second.

You don't even have to ask the NFL to do it. They're constantly, and networks are like, slow down. Slow down. We don't have the technology to do what you want to do. And I'll give you an example of where the NFL is a journey. The NFL didn't ask anybody. They fought. They said, you know what?

The Raiders, it doesn't work in Oakland. We know their history, blah, blah, blah. We're moving them to Vegas. Story came out yesterday. You know who led the NFL in ticket revenue last year? The Dam Raiders. In Las Vegas. Six, seven years ago, they moved the Rams out of St. Louis.

How can you do that to those wonderful people? Why not? Bad stadium. Can't make the money. It's a baseball town. It's kind of a dying city in America, right? Hartford, St. Louis. We know that.

Nothing against St. Louis, but it's not a thriving, ascending town. they moved it to LA. Rams were fourth. Vegas won Rams fourth. Now, obviously, teams like the Patriots, the Cowboys, the Giants, the Blue Bloods, absolutely have done well. But the NFL got a big, I told you so. They also told the Niners, go for it, move your stadium.

Didn't get in the way. Niners were number two. Maybe it's just a Jimmy G thing. Anywho, by the way, the Chargers, everybody freaked out about the Chargers. But the Spanos family said, give me a break. Politicians in this town won't give us what we need. We need more revenue to compete. By the way, they're not a home run yet like the Raiders or the Rams, but they're a double. And by the way, their revenue is higher now because the NFL is always tweaking. They're a journey. If they were a person, they'd be a journey. They're always looking to

grow and adapt and tweak and market. I mean, Jerry Jones deserves credit. Jerry Jones says, and I was told the story years ago, about 10 years ago, Jerry went to the Espies, which I think was that tonight or last night, and he said, he went to it and he said, how the hell do we not have an NFL team in Los Angeles? It's the entertainment capital of America. And so he went to his buddy Stan Cronky and said, you need to buy a big plot of land and move out here. How can you have an NFL and not be in Los Angeles? It's the second biggest city in America.

So they've moved, they're going to move the combine out here, and they move the NFL network out here, and they move the Rams out here, and they move the chargers up here. And I'm not saying this just because I'm in Los Angeles, but if you're the second biggest city in the country, New York's got two teams, Chicago's got teams, Philly's a big city, Boston's a big city, you'd think you'd have one here. But in the end, the key to the NFL is they view it as a journey.

There is no finish line in life for them. It's constantly getting better. In fact, I saw Sportico. And by the way, the NFL doesn't just make bold moves. They make obvious ones. Like move to L.A. moved NFL network here. But I saw this story.

Sportico had the Gate Revenue Report, which had like the Raiders one, Niners, two, Patriots, three Rams, four Giants five. It had Jacksonville at 30. And I think the NFL needs to consider over the next five years. If Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence can't get that baby cooking, it's time to move out of Jacksonville.

Why? Well, what's the loyalty? Every time the NFL makes one of these moves, You know how you know you're right? Because the teams lead the league in ticket sales. The revenue explodes. You don't think the Rams are better for the NFL, LA, than St. Louis? Now, I'm not talking about moving the Cardinals. You know, I'm not talking about moving the Eagles.

I'm not talking about moving the Cowboys or the Packers, and people always freak out. You just want big market teams. That's not true. I would never move the Packers. I think the Packers are amazing. I would never move Denver or Pittsburgh. You know, Buffalo, now they have Josh Allen. You can't move Buffalo.

It's a great NFL city. I think they win the Super Bowl this year. But I think you get to a point with Jacksonville where the NFL has to go, it ain't working. It's just not working. I think baseball's got about four teams at the bottom. Oakland being one of them. It's not working. Oakland's a AAA baseball team.

Get them a new owner. Fast. Move the team. Fast. So it's a big guy told you. So the NFL, they were wrong. right on the Raiders, they were right on the Rams. Niners moved that stadium, they've crushed it, and the Chargers.

It's not a home run yet, but it looks like it's working, right? Like Justin Herbert, they've got the roster. They're in a great division. They've got cold weather, Denver and Charger fan, Denver and Chief Fans coming out west for those games at SoFi Stadium. They've got the right partner in the Rams so they get big revenue. Got to take chance. I mean, you can be a destination person. By the way, there are certain times in life that destinations are good.

I want to get my kids through college. I want my kids to get their job. I'm not saying all destinations are bad. But I think you're happier when you're growing and you're curious and you're experimenting and you don't have to be moved to the left a little or moved to the right a little. And that's where the NFL is king. And the result and the ticket prices and the ratings are proof that they are right. and we have to sometimes just acknowledge how right the NFL is.

All right. So I saw this. According to people I trust, like Ian Rappaport, very good reporter. Jimmy Garoppolo is progressing well. NFL networks Tom Pellasero, another guy I trust. He said the Niners are reportedly thrilled about where Garoppolo is. So the headline is Garapolo is throwing and he will be cleared by mid-August. Well, you know what that means.

Some quarterback's going to get hurt. So it's time for the Jimmy Garoppolo pie, which because he's so handsome, it would be a beautiful pie. My gut feeling on Jimmy Garoppolo, the leader in the clubhouse this morning would probably be the New York Giants. And there's a lot of reasons for that. I think the Giants have more than a 50% chance to land Jimmy Garoppolo. I think you could throw in a little bit of Seattle, a little bit of Houston, a little bit of Atlanta, I guess a little bit of Cleveland. There's my Jimmy Garoppolo pie.

70% Giants, 15% Seahawks, 5% Falcons, Texans, Browns, and here's why. Number one, Jimmy Garoppolo feels bigger than maybe he is. The look, the cachet, he's handsome, he's a gamer, he was a patriot, he was a patriot, he He was a nineer. He was in a Super Bowl. He feels big. The Giants are big. He feels big.

And a lot of it's just the look in his game and his confidence. Number two is they have a new offensive head coach. He's going to get worn out from Daniel Jones by like the fourth practice. The other thing is Daniel Jones, we all kind of acknowledge all of us do. He was overdrafted. He was picked sixth. We didn't like it then. We don't like it now.

And fourth is, and I know a lot of you struggle with this, Jimmy Garoppolo wins a lot over good teams like the Packers and the Rams. Jimmy Garoppolo wins. And the Giants have had one winning season in nine years. And it's a legendary, legendary franchise. It doesn't even sound right. Joy looks at me like, what? It's hard.

When my staff told me that this morning, I'm like, my God, they're terrible. So you got a new offensive coach. Jimmy's always felt a little bit like a rock star. Like he's got some alpha here. New York, I mean, you know, the good looking guys, the Jeter's, the A-Rods. You know, they kind of play in New York. I think the Giants are probably the leader in the clubhouse. And I think that would be good for the league.

And I said it yesterday and I'll say it again. You keep telling me he's always hurt. Last year he played 15 to 17 games and three straight playoff games. And in the Super Bowl year, they had 19 games. He played all of them. He's not that hurt. Would you rather have a guy who's occasionally hurt at quarterback or a guy who stinks? I don't think the choices here are that difficult.

If you're telling me Garoppolo today or Daniel Jones, I know the owner wants to, he wants to make sure that Daniel Jones and it, let me tell you something. This offensive staff by week four is going to be pulling their hair out. I think that's the landing spot. That to me is the one that makes sense. I will say Seattle does have an outside shot.

At 70 years old, does Pete Carroll literally want to tank and get blown out 13 times in that division? And because the Seahawks traded Russell and have two. first and two seconds next year, the Niners could say, okay, you're an in-division team. He may only be worth a fourth-round pick, but to you, if we're going to give him to you in division, we want a first or a second. And I do think they could get a second-round pick the Niners could for Jimmy Garoppolo, which is what they gave up to get him.

And even though I think they've more than gotten back in return, he was the greatest second-round swap ever. I can see where the Niners would have leverage and say, if we're not going to give him to unit and have him beat us. So you got to give us a way better pick than the rest of the league would. I think that's a legitimate argument by the Niners. And I don't think, I think Pete Carroll, it's one thing to say we're rebuilding for a year. Let me tell you something.

In that division, you could go three and 14. Go look at Seattle's schedule. Garopolo puts you in the eight and nine, eight and nine and eight class with Tyler Lockett, D.K. Metcalfe, Kenneth Walker, the star running back. a fan the tide end. You go win nine games with Jimmy Garoppolo. You're winning three with Drew Locke. Two, three or four with Gino Smith. So once again, let's just take a look at the Garoppolo pie. Very, very tasty. Beloved by all, the handsomest pie in the world. Giants, the leader to me. All right. I told you, today's a lot of stuff. One winning season in

the last nine seasons. Isn't it crazy? Crazy. crazy. So bad. I know. That would like be saying, you know, well, the same thing's happening with the Lakers. Now, the Lakers did win a championship in the bubble. If you take out the pandemic bubble title, last nine year for the Lakers. There would have been terrible seven of the years. It's incredible. It's just, it's hard to wrap your brain around. I mean, if we said to you at some point, Oklahoma football, nine years, one winning season, you'd be like, what? Like USC football's gone through that. If you win a championship, I'll take you out of that space. that's really bad. The Giants have been bad.

In a division that we don't think is great. And they've been chaotic and they've often been boring. It's wild. I mean, it's one thing like Detroit last year was bad but fun to watch. Yeah, and it felt like they're, you know, building something. They're ascending. Giants have been bad for a decade. Bad.

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Also, top of the next hour, my NFL predictions, the first big prediction, all the divisions, very excited. You know, today, days like today, anybody can do a show like this on Monday during the football season. Joy and I can pull off this puppy on a Wednesday

when there's no games in America. There's a WNBA game today on TV. So we've got a lot to talk about. So, you know, I've been, I love Nick Saban, but we've got a lot of stuff going on in college football. I think we're going to have an amazing season. It looks like USC is going to be pretty good. And Texas could be good.

And Miami could be good. And we know Bama's going to be good in Georgia and Clemson and Notre Dame and Ohio State. A lot of teams that are always good are going to be good. But it looks like some of these new blue bloods are going to be kind of interesting. And I've been very critical in Nick Sabin through all this NIL and transfer portal stuff. Because, you know, I think he's saying stuff. that's just to protect Alabama. And right now there's bidding rights for high school players.

And Alabama doesn't have as big economy as like a Texas school. And they're losing some. And Miami's got a big booster. And Oregon's got a big booster. And they're buying some stuff. And that may not be legal in a year. But it is right now. And I'm not knocking those programs.

But some of these programs have one or two guys with money, men or women. And they're just buying high school players. And Bama will usually get those players. So a lot of this stuff by Nick is a little hypocrisy. So yesterday he comes out at the SEC Media Days and he says, oh, this caste system. This, this NIL is going to create a caste system. Mega conferences will create more of a caste system. Maybe in college football, everybody has to decide if that's the direction we really want to go or not.

In Alabama, we're one of the halves. It's probably a good thing. But for some of the have-nots, maybe it won't work out as well. What the hell? It's been a caste system my entire life. Oklahoma won the Big 12 six years in a row until last year. Clemson has won six straight titles until last year they had some quarterback problems. Ohio states won the Big Ten four to five years.

The SEC, 15 years, 14 national championship appearances. It's always been a caste system. What are you talking about? That's the sport. It's so expensive that if you can't build the facilities, if you can't buy the best staffs, you can't compete. To me, there's 100, I think it's 130 Division I programs. there are 17 programs that I think have a chance doing a national championship. 17, that's it.

I'm not talking just this year, but in the foreseeable future. And I would put them in three categories. Here's the three categories. This shows you what a caste system it is. And I'm being generous with some of these. But I would say the first group of teams, we all know these. I'd call it the real deal group. These are the best rosters in college football.

They out recruit people. They almost always have. the right coach. They have the facilities. They have the passion. They have the geography. Bama, Clemson, Georgia, LSU, Ohio State, and Oklahoma. And they're almost always good. They may hire a bad coach, but they correct it very quickly. They have great rosters. Four and five star guys everywhere. The second group feel really close. They could win a national championship, but they don't have quite the depth of roster or talent. Baylor has emerged as one of those. Michigan, Notre Dame, Oregon, Penn State. They can beat any of those teams.

Notre Dame almost beat Georgia twice. We've seen Oregon beat Ohio State. We know Michigan just beat Ohio State. They can beat those teams, but they don't have their rosters. They don't have quite maybe it's the passion, it's the depth, but they're close. And they could win. They need breaks, but they could win if they stayed healthy in teams in their division, you know, maybe got banged up.

And then there's the third group that I think could in the foreseeable future win a national championship. and this group, they've been dominant before, but we keep waiting for them. They've had moments. I would call it the still waiting crowd. I've seen Florida be dominant. I've seen Florida State. Miami, Texas, USC, and A&M. And M just beat Bama.

Those teams can also beat when it's rolling the first group and the second group. But I feel like we're kind of, there's either chaos or politics or dysfunction. They can't get it going. I do think what's good news, especially for the U, Texas, and MNSC, I think right now those guys got the right coach, and they got a lot of recruiting momentum. That is it. The real deal, they're close and still waiting.

And the truth is, that's 17 teams, and I'm being generous. Now, I like Wisconsin and Utah. I mean, there's a lot of programs here that deserve respect, but those teams don't have the rosters. You saw Ohio State play Utah in the Rose Bowl. You're talking about a different ball game. It's almost like it's a caste system. So 17 out of 130.

So Nick, stop talking about your concern about it's going to become lobsided. Damn sports been lobsided in my entire life. I mean, there was once Georgia Tech won a national championship. Washington did too. But now the sport's gotten more about money. I mean, forget facilities. Now it's about paying players. So it's always been kind of a.

money sport. Now it's off. I was just talking to one of the great high school football players in America last night. I was at a party that I normally wouldn't go to. And I asked him about that. And he said, yeah, it's about the money now. You know, he's like, that's what guys are going where the money's at. Well, that's not going to help Purdue.

That's certainly not going to help Cal or Boston College. So let's get past. We got a caste system around the corner. Around the corner, we've been living on that block my entire life. and I still love the sport. Joy with the news. No. Turn on the news.

This is the herd line news. Was Boston College in the running for the top recruit that was being recruited by Alabama and Texas and USC? No, no, no. 126 of the programs, no, four yes. You'll find most of these great five-star players. They come down to six programs. Of course. But that's my argument for this freaking out about the NIL.

these kids weren't considering Panera Bread University to begin with. What do you think this is the top recruit in the country? Someone's going to offer him $7 million and he's like, no, actually, I'm going to take $3 million and go to Purdue over USC or Bama

or Texas. No, you weren't in the running for those recruits to begin with. The money is not changing anything. It just means that they're making more money. They might pick Texas over Bama. They might pick USC over Clemson. But they're still only choosing between those top schools to begin with.

The NAL is not changing that. So Sean Payton officially retired at the end of last season, but it is assumed that he is going to return to coaching. Yeah, I would think it's just too, it's an offensive league, and he and Andy Reeder like geniuses. And what is he, 55 years old? I don't know how he's on. I don't think he's in his 60s.

Well, this is in the conversation. He's 58. And Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald recently reported that an unnamed source close to Peyton floated the cowboys, dolphins, and chargers, among others as potential destinations, with the biggest deciding factors being warm weather, a competitive roster, and full control over personnel. So Peyton was recently asked about a possible return to coaching. He didn't push back on it. He said, ultimately, do I think I'll get back in? Sure. There's no way to predict who that club might be. Usually there are about six openings every year. If there's a right

fits somewhere that ultimately will depend on several factors. We'll deal with it when the time comes. So it sounds like he's coming back. He's just going to wait for the right situation. Well, the chargers don't need somebody to take over personnel. Their roster's great. They're good at drafting. The Cowboys do need, say, in personnel, but Jerry probably wouldn't give it to you. Miami could be a fit because I think the young man is Chris Greer, who's been in the front office for a year. He is more than willing to work with a coach. He just struggled working with Brian Flores, but he's more amenable to working with a big legendary coach. But Chris Greer has been in the front office for a while.

He's just hired a coach this year. Right. So it would have to really be a disaster for McDaniel to get fired after one year. Dallas feels like the spot for a lot of reasons. He's got a home there. He's been there. And he's got a franchise quarterback. And by the way, in McCarthy right now, it's wobbly.

Well, if you look at, let's look at the warm weather places, right? All of the Florida teams are out. Doug Peterson's not going anywhere. Tampa's not going to be open and neither. I don't believe Miami will be either unless it's just an absolute disaster. So it's Dallas. Atlanta. They don't have a quarterback.

I guess you can always put Houston in there. Yeah, that ownership's a mess. Yeah, I don't, I mean, I don't think he would go to Houston. That's not a situation he would want to go to. Dallas seems like the obvious choice. But the thing about Dallas is what you said. what's changed about Dallas? If they do move on from McCarthy,

I don't see them going with someone like Sean Payton. Should they probably if they move off from Mike McCarthy? But Jerry does business the way he does business and he likes to hire coaches that don't ask for those things. Well, I will say this. The two times Jerry had real success with Jimmy and Parcells, he relinquished power. Jerry's getting closer to 80 than 70.

Stephen has already pulled some power from Jerry. Would Jerry just say, I'm going to win before I pass? I mean, to me, a 45-year-old Jerry, I wouldn't take the cowboy job. But to 75-year-old Jerry, where Stephen already has moved some power to his side of the table, then it becomes much different story. I just think that the cowboys are very, to their credit, there's something to be said for consistency. They are the biggest brand in all of sports, so they can't push back on that. but Sean Payton is like that his, him wanting full control over personnel is a big ask from the Cowboys.

Yeah, yeah it is. From most organizations it wouldn't be. Well, and I, not for Sean Payton. I'll be honest, I don't love it anyway. Belichick and Pete Carroll had too much power that didn't draft well. I think the secret sauce in New Orleans. I think it's a balance between a great, a great group of scouts,

which clearly New Orleans had. And a capable GM. And a capable GM. I mean, New Orleans had Mickey Loomis and Jeff Ireland. Yes. Nobody ever talks about them. Look at their drafts. They have crushed.

The Saints are one of the best drafting teams in the last six years in the league. You just don't talk about Jeff Ireland or their GM. The secret sauce to the Saints is they don't miss much on drafting, like at all. I mean, Dallas has had some good drafts as well. Last couple have been weird. Weird. Like Parsons was a pretty good choice. He's a nice player.

CD Lamb is going to be the number one receiver now. Very nice. I mean, God, they hit on their number ones. You better. Everyone doesn't, though. I know, but I mean, they've crushed their ones. But there's a lot of like borderline guys for the Cowboys right now. That's why I don't think they have a ton of depth.

So Kyla Murray has provided the Cardinals with plenty of drama this off season as he looks to get a contract extension. But despite Cliff Kingsbury saying he hoped that the contract situation sorted out before training camp. Yeah. Nothing has been finalized. in the range for the highest, and the range for the highest paid quarterback in the league continues to grow. So there's still one week until camp opens. So something could come about the next couple days.

We don't know. I believe this is my take on Arizona. Everybody wants it to get done. It's the owner who doesn't want to pay him two years before he has to. I would argue the market's only going up. Correct. So you're always better. If you like somebody, go to him a year and a half to two years before the contract is up

and say, hey, can we extend it now? For instance, I don't know all the parameters for all these college football conferences, but if I was ESPN, and I don't know what their SEC contract looks like, I would not wait until they go to market. I would lock up the SEC six years before the contract's over. Oh, well, yeah, I'm sure, but the SEC will probably want to go to market. Of course they do. But, I mean, with all these players is, it's not like Kyler's going to get less talented.

He's gotten better every year. Well, no, but I don't know. I really don't know what the questions are around Kyler. Murray. I guess there's some, he really hasn't, I missed three games last year. No, I, listen, I defend Garoppolo. You know I defend Kyler for injuries. Right. Like, he's not really been injured like that. I could see if he was missing a ton of games. If you give me 85% of a season, every, for the next 10 years, you said Stafford is available for 14 of the 17 weeks. Think about it. Are you going to find his replacement on the market? I'd take it. I'd rather have 17. It's replacement on the market.

And it is, I get there's some questions about leadership or whatever, okay? I don't know how much I buy into that, but there's been a little bit of smoke surrounding that. Okay, well, that's on you because by the time a young person reaches the NFL draft, you have years in college to evaluate their personality. They're not going to take a personality jump. They'll take maybe a maturity jump or, you know, how they adjust from being a college athlete to a professional. shore all those things. We all grow. Wonderful. Great. But who you are core as a person,

you should be able to sit down in an interview with this person and figure it out. Sorry. I'm tired to give people passes on that. You can do that. It's called an interview, ask the right questions, ask people around them how they behave. And you'll figure it out. 2019, they were 5, 10, and 1.

2020, they were 8 and 8. 2021, they were 9 and 5. He missed three games to injury. They've gotten better every single year. You gave Cliff Kingsbury the extension. Cliff Kingsbury the extension. What are we doing here? I'm with you. Pay them earlier.

Jerry Jones, a very good businessman, came out and said that he regrets waiting that long. And he would have gotten a deal had he negotiated with Zach earlier. This is your franchise guy. Just do it. The rule is almost always in any business. I don't care if you're representing an artist, a comic, an athlete, a top executive. Go to him early and get them locked in. Because there's just not many great anything.

I mean, you can bet against talent. but if you see that somebody special, odds are they're going to continue to be special and get better, especially if they're trying to get paid. If I had Josh Allen, I'd sign him to a new contract and I'd say, let's meet next week for lunch for the next one. Like, I'm literally getting so far ahead of Josh Allen and Patrick Bahalms. I don't even want anybody to sniff it. I mean, that's what Kansas City did. That's why his contract is that way. Yeah.

So the American League continued their domination of the All-Star game with a three-two win over the National League for their ninth straight win. They fell behind early with the NL taking a 2-0 lead. Ani Muki Betts, RBI single, and a Paul Goldschmidt Homer. But then things turned in their favor. Jean-Carlo Stanton hit a game-tying to run Homer, followed up by Byron Buxon's solo shots. Yep. Did you see the picture of Stanton hitting the ball?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's insane. Well, he swings. Stanton is all upper body. Watch him. I mean, yes. Now, is that Stanton there? Yes.

He's one of my favorite home run hitters in the game. He's unbelievable. Now, look how big he is. Tom Rinaldi stood next to me yesterday. And I'm taller. John Carlow is a big man. Yes. And obviously grew up here in Los Angeles.

So that was, I'm sure, a thrill for him to be able to do that and win. By the way, baseball people. Okay, Ryan, Goldschmidt, most underrated player for a decade in the bigs. Tell me I'm wrong. Nobody talks about Goldsmith. You're going to look at his numbers in three more years, and you're going to say, is he a borderline Hall of Famer? Go look it up.

I did last night during the game. Go look it up on Goldsmith. But he played for Arizona, and nobody paid attention to him for years. Go look at his numbers. All right, there you go. Also, congrats to our Fox broadcast team. Great work. Umpire cams, miced up players. Oh, it was a blast.

Midgame interviews. Now, watch this. Watch this. Yeah, I love this. Sorry, right. Watch this. How the hell does anybody hit a baseball? I sat there the whole game.

I mean, it's the hardest thing to do in sports. Look at how fast. That heater is on you in like a third of a second. This is a big poppy cam. Oh, that was great. Look at this. Watch. I mean, who can hit that?

How do you hit that? I don't even under it. That's why they make a lot of money. So by the ones that can do it regularly make a lot of money. It's really hard to do. It's such a great shot. Oh, my, it's insane how good they are. That you can hit that and put it where you want to hit it.

Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. They always said the hardest thing to do in sports was at a baseball, and I've always argued play quarterback. Nobody's tackling you as a hitter. But when you watch those cams last night on Fox,

you're like, okay. I mean, I think they mean like a singular thing. to do. Well, also, it's gotten easier to be quarterback, I could argue, because receivers are better, you can't hit the quarterback. No, but I'm saying, I think it's a specific action, not like the position. Like, it's not the hardest thing in sports to be

a baseball player. I don't think that's what they're implying. Right. It's just hit a ball. It's just actually hitting a baseball and putting it where you wanted or hitting it out of the park. Everybody throws 94 now. I remember when I was a kid in the 70s, you had one guy that threw in the mid-90s. That was it. Everybody throws 90s.

I argue lower the mound about two inches just to make it fair and get rid of the defensive shift. Yeah, more offense is always good for all the ones. More runners, more steals, more plays at the plate. You watch that cam last night. It is unbelievable how anybody can hit a baseball. You have to be so gifted. Goldschmidt, Hall of Famer, look it up four more years. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific.

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on my new podcast, learn the hard way. Open your free. iHeartRadio app search learn the hard way and listen now come for the entertainment stay for the paul goldsmith takes one more all-star season he's a hall to famer i'll argue it all day long and nobody's ever told you that all right albert brayer who's got that cape cod nantucket look to him senior nfl look at him good god you might as well put him on a sailboat right now okay so i showed you sure got me a few days ago it's a lot better than colin so i threw up my jimmy garoppolo pie, which is the most beautiful handsome pie in the world about where he could go because now I'm

getting legitimate reporters saying he's healthy, he's throwing, the Niners are happy. I think the Giants works, a new staff, they're not loyal to Daniel Jones, he's a star, he's been in big games, he's been in big pressurized situations. There's my handsome Jimmy Garoppolo pie. Am I nuts? Yeah, I think the Giants are sort of in a spot where they're going to be evaluating the whole roster. And I can tell you the way that Brian Dayball and Joe Shane look at this is sort of like where they were in 2018. And in that group's second year in Buffalo where they had torn the place down. And then it was really about evaluating every corner of the team.

And, you know, I think because of that, they want to give Daniel Jones some rope. And I think ownership's involved in that piece of it too where they want to at least see what they have because they've invested three years in them. They invested the sixth overall pick in him. and you want to at least make sure that you're right that he's not going to be the long-term answer. Now, they've given some obvious clues as to where they stand on it right now by not picking up the fifth year option. But I would think that with the Giants at least, they want to get a look at Daniel Jones for at least four, six, eight games before they make any more moves at the position. And so I think that's where they're going to be in September and October. I do like the idea of the Seahawks there.

I'm just not quite sure whether or not the Niners would move him in division. Can you explain Lamar Jackson's offseason and where they are? The receiver leaves. He's gotten a little more toxic on social media. They want to sign him. He won't sign. Can you explain it? Well, I think one of the things that you have to keep in mind here is the Ravens are

very much keeping a very tight circle when it comes to this negotiation in general. And the reason why they know how important trust is with Lamar. and you can't handle this like another negotiation. When you have somebody's intermediary on the other side of the table, you can low ball him, you can take a shot at him, things can get ugly, and the guy that the intermediary is negotiating for can take all of that and shield his client from it. In this case, you're dealing directly with a player and a player with whom trust is very, very important. And so at the beginning of all this in January and February,

the Ravens, Eric Dacosta, John Harbaugh, Steve Bishotti, they resolved to keep that circle very, very tight. It's good news that the negotiation has gotten going, but for the whole off season, Dave said we are going to go at Lamar's pace here. And I can't tell you for sure whether or not this is part of Lamar's strategy, but it does seem like he waited a little while.

And if that's what he was doing, that was actually really sound strategy because if you look at it right now, we've gone from two quarterbacks making over $40 million a year league-wide to that number being now seven. And so Lamar is negotiated in this contract doing a completely different environment than if he has sat down with the Ravens in February and March. I believe Arizona, everybody in the building wants Kyler-Marie signed except maybe the owner bidwell.

Give me an update your thoughts on that. Yeah, I mean, I think they're going to make an effort to try to get something done here before the beginning of camp. And I do think a piece of this was like owners generally look, Colin, like owners generally like to keep the money in their bank account for a few more. months if they can. And I think that that was a piece of this. And that's why, you know, oftentimes big box deals like this get done in the summer when in a lot of cases they could have gotten done in March or April. So I think that's part of why there's been the weight here. And I do think that the ownership there, the Bidwell family understands that once they re-uped with Steve Kime and Cliff Kingsbury, who everybody in the world back in January and February

thought we're going to be fighting for their jobs in 2022. So they re-up with those guys. You're sort of remarrying Kyle and Murray, too. too. And so I think there's going to be a real effort over the next, you know, week or two to try to get a deal done before Kyler Murray comes into any sort of physical harm. The thing to keep an eye on here with both Kyler and Lamar, though, how far do they want to push their positions? Yeah. And do they view the Deshaun Watson deal as the new standard or is that an outlier? Because we're talking about two very different things. I don't think it's about the raw dollars. I don't think it's about the length of the deal so much as it is about the structure and the guarantees. And if they go in,

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