The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Return of the back

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

Colin talks about the resurgence of the running back in the NFL and why some of the disgruntled wide receivers across the league need a reality check He believes Bill Belichick would be a disaster as ...a college head coach  Colin hopes this latest LeBron James rumor isn't true 6-time Super Bowl champion Josh McDaniels joins the show to talk about the issues the Eagles are having on offense  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:19 Josh McDaniels, former, you know, legend in New England. Albert Breer stops by today, some breaking stuff. Mark Sanchez stops by as well. And, you know, for years in New York, years, I had talked about wide receivers. Chris Carter used to give me crap for this, being overrated. I said, a football team's a cake. They're the icing. It makes it better, but it's not essential to the cake. And then, clearly because of rule changes, receivers became more valuable. But about six months ago, you suggested that we could have, you've heard of housing bubbles. You said wide receiver bubble.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And I think you were on to something. You think maybe, huh? think you were. So I want to start with that today. 49ers, Brock Purdy, the quarterback says, oh, I love Debo, Samuel, the wide receiver. Here we go again. Another high
Starting point is 00:04:12 maintenance, wide receiver that the quarterback has to make sure he's happy like A.J. Brown and Philly and Debo and Malique neighbors earlier in the year with the Giants and Devonte Adams with cryptic
Starting point is 00:04:28 messages when he was a raider. And I like Devante, but C.D. Lamb is perpetually unhappy, and George Pickens and Deontay Johnson, even Jamar Chase, who I love, made noise this year. Oh, by the way, the top five rushing teams, rushing teams in the NFL, Philly, Baltimore, Washington, Detroit, and the Packers are 4817. Hey, receivers, we gave you a couple of years to be stars, and you wasted it complaining. The world changes quickly. Nine months ago, all we heard is the media lament
Starting point is 00:05:03 the future of running backs. Nobody wants to pay a running back. Running back saying nobody loves us today, power running football is back. Detroit, Baltimore, Green Bay. Wide receivers have become, once again,
Starting point is 00:05:19 flashy sports cars. Really expensive, high maintenance, you buy one and you find out They're not great in winter months, and they're not something you could drive every day. Meanwhile, there are running backs. All weather, power, economical, low maintenance, grinders, add toughness and leadership to locker rooms. Yes, occasionally you will get a running back that's got some flash.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Kieran Williams of the Rams, Christian McCaffrey, Saquan Barkley, but six of the top 10 wide receivers in the NFL, six of 10 leading in wide receiver yards, are on teams with losing records, loud and losing. And once again, whether it's Philly or it's San Francisco or it's Dallas, it's this constant need. Look at me.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Let's make sure the wide receiver is healthy. I don't get that with Saquan. I don't get it with Derek Henry. I don't get it with James Connor in Arizona. I don't get it with Walker in Seattle. They're grinders. Head down. You give me the ball.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I'll produce. I'll block. I'll take on a rush end. I'll take on a Mike linebacker coming a million miles an hour to protect my quarterback. And I like Debo Samuel. But in six NFL seasons, he's only had two years of a thousand plus yards. Derek Henry, seven straight seasons of a thousand plus yards. And whereas running backs, when they're good, make a quarterback's job easier,
Starting point is 00:07:05 wide receivers when they're good, often need to be constantly soothed and pampered and taken care of. I mean, the AJ Brown situation's ridiculous. Your team's on a heater. Sequin Barclay should be arguably MVP, and you want more targets? You're getting seven. okay, we'll give you nine. And I like a lot of the receivers. But I always felt in this league
Starting point is 00:07:29 that they were the icing to the cake. Sequan Barclay's the cake. Christian McCaffrey is the cake. Derek Henry's the cake. And that doesn't mean I don't like wide receivers. But how many times do we see this? Winning teams having to make sure the wide receiver's healthy. What's interesting about Debo, my favorite Debo,
Starting point is 00:07:51 is after the catch and when he plays running back. So when the receiver debaul becomes the running back debo, I like it more. So I think it's just a very interesting. The world changes quickly. And if you look at the teams now with power run games, always a quarterback's best friend, it's Baltimore, it's Philly, it's Detroit, it's Washington, it's Green Bay. Running backs are back.
Starting point is 00:08:19 All weather, economical. Huff, quarterback's best friend. All right. So nobody wants any sportscaster to sit on the fence. Well, what's the point? You've got to pick a side on stuff, right? And I'm just going to tell you, when the story keeps coming out today
Starting point is 00:08:38 that Belichick and Carolina are close to joining forces, to be the coach of the Tar Heels. My takeaway, in my opinion, is it's eventually going to be a disaster. Let's start with this. He's 72. Yeah. And his personality is formed. He's got no charisma.
Starting point is 00:09:00 He's trying on the other network, but he doesn't have any charisma. And college football, Dan Lannning, big energy, good-looking, confident, young, Sark, salesman, Saban, charming, Kirby Smart, likewise. Marcus Freeman, good-looking cool. Jim Harbaugh, totally authentic, full of energy. Pete Carroll at USC. I mean, he hit you like a strong drink, man. He was coming at you 100 miles an hour, chewing that gum.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Good looking guy. I'm going to change your life. The players choose you in college football. In today's NIL, Bill's Patriot Way, hey, take a little less for the team. Yeah, that's not happening. That's not happening. So that's the number one reason. Belichick, in my opinion, seemed a little out of touch dealing with 27, 28, 29-year-olds his last three years in pro football.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Now he's dealing with 17- and 18-year-olds. So that's the first part. The second part is, and this is true in a lot of universities, but it's really true at Carolina. The administration at Carolina right now is a little bit of a mess. Academics, one side, sports and the other. this is a proud university that's rival is the academic power Duke. So they don't want to take a second fiddle to anybody. So North Carolina is serious about academics.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And there's a lot of pushback upstairs in the academic world to the sports world and the football program. And by the way, what's interesting is the top college football agent is Jimmy Sexton. He is a power broker. Why isn't he sending his best candidates to Carolina? why are like second-tier candidates backing out agents will tell you the truth where they send their people if they start if top agents in any industry start starting their people to certain locations it or not sending people to certain locations it tells you everything why isn't jimmy sexton sent it all of his great clients to carolina because it is a top 2025 job so and the third thing is
Starting point is 00:11:09 I think it's all about Bill Belichick wanting to give this job to his son in like a year. I think he's going to get worn out a year in and say, I want to give it to my son. Which, by the way, I get it. I'm a dad. Totally get it. But whereas Dion Sanders went to Colorado
Starting point is 00:11:25 and he was about attitude, us noticing a program that was irrelevant, swag, confidence. And I truly do believe that Dion Sanders really does care about elevating young men. To me, Belichick cares about elevating one young man, his son.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And I get it. I really do. But that's not why you take a job, right? Like, I think Dion to Colorado works. Because I think he's a, when it comes to Dion and what he really wants to do, he got the bag, he's the greatest cornerback of all time. He wanted to change them line. including his son, not just his son.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And so I don't buy it. I'm not sitting on the fence. Michael Irvin, who was so good yesterday on our show, the playmaker, former cowboy, his thoughts on Belichick and Carolina. The current landscape of college football is a lot different than even when Jimmy was in college. You know, so much different right then. You know, Jimmy can really use the hammer to keep you alive. I just don't know if coach has the time to counsel, and that's what it's going to take.
Starting point is 00:12:43 That's what makes Dion so great in college. He's really a mentor coaching. Coach is a coach that has forced to mentor. It's a lot dealing with kids in there, and I just think it's, yeah, that's not what coach want to be doing. He wants to coach football. Yeah, college football has gotten harder for college football coaches in the last five to ten years. I'd argue the NFL, though the owners are crazier and richer than ever, is easier because there's more really good quarterbacks and really talented offensive play callers and play designers.
Starting point is 00:13:19 So for a head coach in the NFL, you don't have to be a wizard schematically. All sorts of very talented young coaches all over the NFL. And that league has a pension for coaches. So it's a much better place to be an assistant than college football. This doesn't work to me. It may make headlines. It may feel right for about six games or six months. I don't think it works.
Starting point is 00:13:43 J. Mack disagrees. We got some stories today. I have two potential, very unpopular opinion. Only two? Only two today. It's going to be tough to top yesterday's show, Colin. It was very strong. One of the better Tuesday shows we've had.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Well, you talked a lot, so I think you liked yesterday. No, no, that's what the people want. You've got to give the people what to go on. Combative J-Mack versus. Coastal Elite Colin. Yeah, it was something like that. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app.
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Starting point is 00:18:32 find LeBron a deal where he'd rather be, but it is believed James would only go if Brony James' son would be part of the deal. So that's weak. I mean, the moment LeBron made playing with his son a priority, he probably punted on winning any more titles. So let's just be honest about this. Brony's not an NBA player. He's not.
Starting point is 00:18:57 He's not a primary ball handler. He's not a shooting guard. He's tiny. he's athletic, but everybody in the league's athletic. He's not an NBA player. So I basically, I totally supported LeBron, again, with his son in that moment, the first night they played together, totally supported it. But we've got to stop pretending here.
Starting point is 00:19:16 This is getting Globetrotter level sticky. Bronny's not an NBA player. He's a G-League player, and he's not a dominant G-League player. He's not even a very good G-League player. And he wasn't a very good college player. on a solid program, not a great one. So again, if Brody and Braun were playing at the UCLA gym here five minutes from where I sit, and it was August and we all had our iPhones out, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:19:42 But trying to force us to believe like this is a real thing, we've got to stop pretending. It's inauthentic. It's just not good. And listen, NBA stars have always aged strangely. Michael Jordan was on the Wizards. He was cranky and didn't get along with his Washington teammates. Melo was sending us random videos from gyms wherever, seeing if he could make another roster.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Shack was on three teams and three seasons, and LeBron's trying to make us believe that Brony's an NBA player. He's a nice kid. And he's athletic, but he's a 6-1 non-point guard. They do not exist. That would be like saying a really super slow, wide receiver. They don't exist in the league. And so, I mean, listen, I'm not trying to be.
Starting point is 00:20:30 mean, but have we gone from the decision to the delusion if this story is true? And I don't think the Lakers should trade LeBron because the attendant is still good. He's the second best player on the team. He's a playmaker. And outside of Austin Reeves, they don't have another. So I think trading LeBron is ridiculous. But the Lakers have sort of allowed this. And there's where we stand now. He's at the center of trade rumors. And it just feels terribly inauthent. I can be okay with a moment, but not think it's a movement, right? There's a lot of moments I support. They don't need to be movements.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And I think it's just inauthentic to try to make this a package deal would be saying, hey, both are what another team wanted. And I think LeBron at this point has a very limited market. I don't think Brony has one at all. Just being real here. J-MAC with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news.
Starting point is 00:21:26 This is the herd line news. All right, we have a big one Thursday, Rams Niners. The Niners backs against the wall, losing. It's over. The Seahawks have a lead in the division, and San Francisco six and seven, listen, it's been an injury plague season. Brock Purdy, however, says there's one way for San Francisco to play the rest of the year. Where we're at now, it can't be.
Starting point is 00:21:50 What is the end going to look like? It has to be, we have to take care of business today, and then tomorrow. And then when the game comes, take care of each. play and drive and quarter. It's just being in the moment, man, and not looking too far ahead. And so with that comes, you know, playing together as a team and playing desperate because we don't have room to lose or anything like that. So it's just where we're at. I like the Niners. Close. About 27, 24. I think this is their season. And I think it's really hard after you play Buffalo and play a perfect football game to duplicate it for the Rams.
Starting point is 00:22:25 They played as well as any team has played for three and a half hours this season. They were virtually perfect. Block punts, not miss tackles. I mean, Matt Stafford, seven-on-seven drill. They ran the ball. They threw it deep underneath. No drop passes. I mean, the Rams put on a clinic on how to play pro football.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I would agree the Niners of the side here. You know what I like, though, is this leadership we're hearing from Brock Purdy at the podium. Hat on forward, locked in. I did like that. I've said before, his intangibles are excellent. Off the charts. Hat, straight ahead, looking to the future. Are you getting to the point where you're okay paying him 40 mil a year?
Starting point is 00:23:08 Yes, I think Brock Purdy deserves something. But I think the team has a lot of leverage, too. Explain. Well, go to his last 12 starts and look at his record. Look at his record when he doesn't have Christian McCaffrey. Trent Williams is getting old so it would be better served to have a bigger, more mobile quarterback
Starting point is 00:23:30 than a smallish quarterback if I'm losing the best left tackle in a decade. A lot of things here that worry me. So without the coming into the season, the greatest running back in the league, yeah, he didn't play well. Boy, you know, I'm not a good fighter with one hand tied
Starting point is 00:23:46 behind my back, Colin. And oh, by the way, Trent Williams missing time. Now he got boats out. Ayuk. I mean, Jordan Mason, the backup running back who looked awesome. He's done. He was almost an MVP without Seekwan Barker. J. Hurtz lost A.J. Brown for a game and they got destroyed by Tampa earlier this season.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Okay. Tampa's good. Tampa's pretty good team. This whole, like, look at his stats. Come on, man. We're not going to do this, are we? You don't really want to pay Brock Purdy. I am willing to pay him well below.
Starting point is 00:24:15 I would say Daniel Jones area. Kirk Cousins coming off in Achilles. He's got like 45. Is he getting that? Kirk Cousins wins and has been excellent. Kirk Cousins has, he will be in the NFL record book multiple times. For what? Stealing money?
Starting point is 00:24:29 Completion percentage, yards. Off the top of your head, give me the most memorable Kirk Cousins' playoff victory. Go. The miracle, the Minnesota miracle, isn't that him? Maybe I'm wrong. I don't think that was him. I think it was, was that Case Keenum or something? Yeah, my bad.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Kurt Cousins. Well, he was in the vicinity that day. Very close. But Kirk Cousins has, like, Brock Purdy had two game-winning drives last year against your Packers and your Lions in the playoffs. He was clutch. Yeah, that's the side people for Collins ready to move on. He doesn't like talking about Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Next story, you're going to love this. Caitlin Clark has been named Times Athlete of the Year. What a tremendous rookie season. You dominated the WNBA. You could argue she should have been the MVP. Whatever, I'm not going to argue with that. Set in WNBA record for assists, scored the most points by a guard in single season.
Starting point is 00:25:23 NBA history. And she plays really kind of an NBA game. Good Handle, Step Back 3, NBA shooting range. I mean, she's really a clever, dynamic player. And I, unlike the rest of America, am okay with some of the chippy play toward her
Starting point is 00:25:39 because I think that is what Larry Bird faced and Michael Jordan faced. I think it's what Bryce Harper faced. I think the ultimate sign of respect for women's sports is to not pander and appreciate the fact that women's basketball is really feisty and physical, like men's basketball is. Let's not pander. She had to deal with the same
Starting point is 00:26:01 stuff that all young stars getting tons of publicity had to deal with. MJ got a Detroit tackled him for four years. That was a little different. That was the Jordan rules because he was utterly dominant. And so they roughed him up. Go look at her after the first 10 games. And guess what the league did? They basically made the Jordan rules go away because that wasn't. good for the product. After several years. But still, they were like, slow to react. David Stern, RIP. Too many people in the media pander to women's sports. The ultimate respect is saying they belong. I did 10
Starting point is 00:26:36 Caitlin Clark segments and I monitor all of them and they all rated. That's respect. Stop. This whole feisty thing, Angel, her and Angel Reese are rivals. They're both awesome. How are they rivals? Caitlin Clark's dominated her head to head. Angel Reese is setting like rebounding, records as a rookie. She's a different... Well, she's a different player.
Starting point is 00:26:56 She can't make a shot outside the lane. There's no rivalry there. Either can you on us. Oh, my God. Well, I mean, I'm not wrong. You guys want a title. Come on. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:27:06 But Angel Reese is part of this too. You got a... Bird needed magic and vice versa. You need a rival. And I think Angel Reese is a different player. She's feisty. She's an interior player. Caitlin's a perimeter player.
Starting point is 00:27:19 You could add disrespectful to Angel Reese. She's disrespectful to Caitlin Clark. You don't see Clark acting that way to Reese. Well, there's an old saying you never want to punch down, and Caitlin is viewed as the superstar. Angel Reese is viewed as the star. Angel Reese is really good. She's a very good player. She's just not on Clark's level.
Starting point is 00:27:35 And that's not being mean. No, that's just reality. I'm sorry. You know, you guys want to dispute it. But, like, I just, I'm very curious what the, what the sophomore season is like. We talk about a sophomore slump sometimes. I think she'll be fine. But also, do you expect, like, a pullback in, you know, ticket sales, a TV radio?
Starting point is 00:27:53 All that stuff? Up, up, up, up. Otani's going to not get less popular. Well, Otani just won the World Series, so the Dodgers are at the top. Up, up, up, up. Aaron Judge gets more popular every year in New York. Mahomes gets more popular every year. Why is Caitlin Clark going backwards?
Starting point is 00:28:10 So when the schedule comes out, do you want to go to Caitlin Clark game out here? I'd have no problem going. If I can get a ticket. We know some people, you know? You may. I don't know anybody. You know people. But no, Caitlin Clark versus the L.A. Sparks, they got a good team.
Starting point is 00:28:22 They just didn't play well this year injuries. Yeah, maybe we'll go to a game out here in L.A. It's fun. I'm four. Being out here in L.A. is fun. Let's go to the final story, and that is, how about this? In college football,
Starting point is 00:28:33 Old Miss is playing Duke in the Gator Bowl. Are you ready for this? Duke's quarterback, Malik Murphy, the kid who was at Texas. Well, I think he was a five-star recruit. He just set a Duke record for touchdown passes in a season. And he's not playing in the bowl game because he's in the transfer portal again.
Starting point is 00:28:47 So stupid. Well, we'll talk about this in a second. Old Miss coach, Lane Kiffin is not thrilled with the situation. You're just thinking it's NFL, you know, getting ready for the AFC, NFC playoffs postseason and players are, you know, in free agency already. So it's really poor system, but we just try to manage the best we can through it. And hopefully someday it will get fixed. Yeah, Lane Kiffin is right.
Starting point is 00:29:16 It's ridiculous that you can transfer as you go into bowls and playoffs. Even the NFL has like boundaries on when you can do things. I don't have any problem transferring. Not during the season. When the season is complete after the playoff and bowl system, then transfer for the next six months. Okay, so let me ask you this. The Gator Bowl is not part of the playoffs. It is an irrelevant exhibition football.
Starting point is 00:29:42 It means nothing. All bowls and playoffs have to be done before you get transfers. All bowls done. all playoffs done. Should you be able to trade players in the NFL? Well, Carolina's not in the playoffs. They can trade right now, even though there's a playoffs
Starting point is 00:29:59 going on. Everybody plays under the same trading rules, the same transfer. I think the trade deadline in the NFL is silly. They need to push it way back. Why shouldn't Carolina? Hey, our season's over. We're going to tank. Yeah, we'll give up players. You want them on the
Starting point is 00:30:15 playoff push? Take them off our hands. Everybody has scheduled. Our show is on a schedule. It's nine to noon Pacific. We have a schedule. We have to show up at times. That's the way the world works. It can't just be, I'm going to do what I want to do when I want to do it. That's not the way the world. Your kids have a curfew. Your kids have school at a certain time. The buses come at a certain time. Totally different, unfortunately. Colin, let's say they expanded the playoff from 12 to 36 and the Gator Bowl was in the playoff. Would this kid be transferring or would he say, shoot, we're in the playoffs. We got a shot at the time.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Have you looked actually at the college football playoff contract? It will never be 36. I understand. It will expand to 14 at most potentially in the next three years. It is a small playoff. There's a smaller number of bowl games. No transferring until everybody's season is complete. So therefore, you can't punish the good programs whose coaches are coaching games
Starting point is 00:31:14 and give the lousy programs an advantage to be recruiting nonstop. everybody has to play under certain guidelines. That's reasonable in any business. But hold on. Does the same apply to coaches? If this coach of Duke, Cutcliffe, all of a sudden wants to leave next week, he can leave. Bull games happening. I don't care I'm out.
Starting point is 00:31:31 A CEO is different than an employee for the structure and foundation of a $800,000 program. If somebody fires a coach, like a player could quit a team. We're just saying you can't go to another one. Coaches come and go. They're not players. They're not even. Nick Saban is more valuable than any college player ever. Right, but these guys going in the portal, they can't play in bowl games now.
Starting point is 00:31:55 If you want to transfer, great. You can't land anywhere until the season is over is reasonable. That makes sense, but I guess the argument would be, well, wait a sec. It's an arms race. If we all enter at the exact same time. Even arms races between countries have treaties. Everything has rules. Even war.
Starting point is 00:32:15 There's NATO rules. There's wartime. rules. Like there's things you can't break. That's called organizational, you know, consistency. J-Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
Starting point is 00:32:30 The Herd-Ly News. Here's an unpopular opinion. The Yankees didn't necessarily need Juan Soto. The Mets needed him more to be relevant. And oh, by the way, the Yankees yesterday went and signed left-hander Max Fried from Atlanta. He's really good. And he'll probably win more games than Juan Soto would have.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I said this yesterday. Go spend your money elsewhere. Well, he's 30 years old and it's a long deal. That's called Major League Baseball. The way to beat the Dodgers is a top pitcher that can get out Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, and Otani. And Max Fried against Betts owns him. Mookie Betts is 2 for 30 against Max Fried.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And Freddie Freeman is 2 of 13. That's how you beat the Dodgers. Dodgers. Garrett Cole gave the Dodgers trouble. Nobody else on the staff did. They all got shelled. Power hitters didn't beat the Dodgers. Aaron Judge was irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Mani Machado, Francisco Lindor. The Yankees need more arms. Trying to beat the Dodgers with hitting is like trying to beat the KD. Steff Warriors at three-point shooting. You're not going to. I mean, good God. The National League Championship Series MVP for the Dodgers, was Tommy Edmund who would bat eighth or ninth.
Starting point is 00:33:52 You're not beating the Dodgers at the plate. But Garrett Cole, in the two games he started, was excellent and slowed them down. So this idea that Juan Soto, you got Stanton and you got Aaron Judge, you got more than enough power. If you'd assign Soto, you're not signing this excellent pitcher. Yes, he's 30, and yes, that's a long contract for a 30-year-old, but let's be honest. baseball, everybody's signing eight-year deals. So the Yankees need more elite starters, not a $700 million power hitter.
Starting point is 00:34:27 By the way, Soto's contract would have been like double what Aaron Judge makes. That would have been a weird vibe in New York. You don't think that would have been a weird vibe? So I said this yesterday. You can look at the Juan Soto thing. Oh, this is terrible. I think he's a better fit with the Mets in the same, you know, side as the Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:34:50 If you want to get to a World Series, the Mets may need Juan Soto. I don't think the Yankees do. They've got power hitters. What they need is more depth of pitching. You're not going to out-hit the Dodgers. That's not it. That's not going to work.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Here's Brian Cashman this morning on the MLB Network on missing out on Juan Soto, a great player. From the Yankee standpoint, no retreat, no surrender. We get back, get back after it and find a way to put together a roster that our fans are going to be excited about. And we think, you know, we'll take us a chance another.
Starting point is 00:35:25 We want to defend that American League title and get back in the World Series and try to win it. Yeah. I said yesterday, you just saved yourself a lot of money. Get a better staff. Get a better. I mean, the Dodgers pitching staff was so deep in the bullpen. The Padres were red hot. The Dodgers threw a bullpen game and like eight different guys through an inning and shut a
Starting point is 00:35:47 out. They were winning bullpen games against elite teams in the playoffs. So, and you're not getting, I mean, it's Max Muncie, Betts, Freeman, Tommy Edmund, O'Tonnie, it's just an endless stream of elite hitters. You're not out hitting the Dodgers, all right? And you're not out shooting Katie, Steph, and the Warriors. There was ways to beat him. That wasn't it.
Starting point is 00:36:13 All right. Josh McDaniels is coming up in studio. Okay. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 00:36:41 So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about. what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
Starting point is 00:37:33 This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert's Michael and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. SportsClyce brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Listen to SportsClyce on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife-12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levin this went to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Six Super Bowl rings, 14 years, offensive coordinator, four years as a head coach. What a pleasure to have Josh McDaniels back. There's so many things today I want to touch on. I said this as that for years I was sort of like the cake is the quarterback left tackle, the run game, the D line, the O line. Receivers are the icing. They make it fun.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yep. But they're not essential. And then the rule changes. And then they became more essential. But I'm looking at the resurgence of running backs. Baltimore, Green Bay, Detroit, Washington, power teams. It's a cyclical league. In the last year and a half, something has happened where teams now are moving back to the run game.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Why? Yeah. I think in many regards, it's the defense's response to those elite players on the outside. And when there's more safeties in the deep part of the field and less people down near the line of scrimmage, there's just less things you can do to get those guys the ball. And so the guy that's standing by the quarterback or behind the quarterback becomes more valuable because honestly, that's the right thing to do. When there's a light box or a fair fight inside, you give those guys the ball.
Starting point is 00:41:27 And you can see there's a lot of great running backs in this league. Right. You know, I don't think they should be devalued. But, you know, based on how defenses are defending, you know, teams and offenses, I think they become more valuable, as we're seeing right now. Historically, receivers have been noisier and more verbal. I've always said they're kind of the pro basketball players of football. They break the huddle first.
Starting point is 00:41:47 It's one-on-one. They're often the biggest, longest athlete. They want the ball. And I get it. But like in Philadelphia now, now we've got an issue. We're red hot. We're clearly off the by, Josh. We're going to throw less.
Starting point is 00:42:02 We're going to run more. The centerpiece is Sequin. It's working. How would you quiet the locker room? There are increasing stories. Brandon Ingram, Jalen, you know, Dak and Des had an issue. In Dallas, I thought, made the right decision.
Starting point is 00:42:16 They moved Des out. A.J. Brown's really good. How do you quiet the noise in season? Yeah, I think you, look, you have to tell them and show them. Honestly, showing them is more important than telling them, that you're interested in getting them the ball. And the only reason you want them to have the ball is because they're going to help your team win
Starting point is 00:42:34 more than any other player at that position. And there's certain guys like A.J. Brown And we just saw one game on Monday night with Jamar and CD and the Justin Jeffersons of the world. These guys that are, they're elite players. They deserve to have the ball as an offensive coordinator and the quarterback. You want to get them the ball. But there's also a lot of attention being paid to those guys. So look, I think there's a balance there, you know, between forcing it to them too much where, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:03 they're trying to take them out of the game. And now you're just punt in a lot, you know, and throwing a lot of incomplete passes. and not getting them the ball at all. And so I think you just try to find the balance, you know, keep them involved early in the game. I think that's important is to get them involved right away, just so they touch the football, they're in the flow of the game. And then the design of the offense, when you are throwing the ball, you know, it should go through those guys. It just should.
Starting point is 00:43:28 So there are decisions. Russell Wilson is, I would say, there's a resurgence, but he was seen as a declining player in Denver. Kirk Cousins appears to be declining fast. Brady was remarkably able to stay at a high level and his decline was very, very hard to see. If you're, I mean, you're like a master at this. This may not something that you would talk publicly about, but what would be the first thing you would see
Starting point is 00:43:56 with a quarterback and think, whisper to Bill or whisper to a coach, he doesn't have blank anymore? Yeah, I think, and we didn't see it with Tommy. Yeah. You know, and he's rare, as you know. I mean, very rare. The rare, yeah. You know, to me, if you start to feel like they don't want the hits, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:17 and the ball's kind of coming out maybe earlier than it should. A beat early. Yeah, beat early because they just know what's about to come, you know, and hit them in the chest or in the shoulder or, you know, those start to accumulate over time and they start to hurt more. And we were talking about it, you know, the NASCAR drivers that get a little older, that all of a sudden they start to fall down the leaderboard, and they're still driving for the same organization.
Starting point is 00:44:44 They're still doing the same thing. They got four kids? Yes, right. There's a little bit more to drive for or play for. Right. And I don't even know that anybody makes those decisions consciously. I think it's almost a subconscious decision that your body makes for you, that, you know, it may not want to go through this anymore.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Yeah. if you're in Chicago, so it structurally is an organization on tilt, give me the first thing. I'm Caleb Williams. You walk into the room. What is the first thing you do because he was struggling, ascending, plateaued, dropping. What's the first order of business to a talented young quarterback to get him right? talking about right now.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Caleb Williams. If you walked in today, today, how do you get it back? Yeah, what do you feel most comfortable doing? You just ask you. Yeah, what do you feel most comfortable doing? Because the offense isn't going to be very good doing things that I like if you don't like them. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:45 You know, and so I think the biggest thing you have to do is what's in his bucket that he feels really good about. And you start with that and honestly major in that. And then if you say, hey, I think there's a few things that would help us as a team. if we could add these to your bucket. And then at that point, you know, you've got to have the conversation. And I think he deserves to know why you want to do that. You know, I think if we do this, that helps us get the ball down the field more.
Starting point is 00:46:12 We can get this guy the ball if we do some, you know, some of this. But I think to me it has to start with where he's comfortable. And look, these rookie quarterbacks, as we've seen, there's been flashes of great play from all of them. And all of them have had bad days. That's right. And they all, and some of them have hit like a little bit of a lull or a wall, if you will. And then you kind of got to get them back.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And so I think to me it starts with what do you feel most comfortable doing on a play-to-play basis? Let's do more of that. Let's major in that and then see where we go from there. So in any industry, if something's viewed as a high-stress job, and there's a lot, it could be a fighter pilot, could be an astronaut. The company usually gives you longer time to recover, right? And so let's not perfectly analogous to football, but when you're the chiefs and every game, It's a one-score-one-bossession game. Is it possible that it does wear on you over the course of a season
Starting point is 00:47:09 that you need some lay-ups in this league, and they don't get any lay-ups? Yeah. It can if you're focused on just the result. I think if you're focusing on the process, and that team knows on Monday when they watch the film that they're playing pretty good football, and right now, based on all of our injuries and, in the situation and circumstances that we have, this is the best we're going to do right now.
Starting point is 00:47:36 You know what I mean? Not saying that we can't improve, but look, you know, the days of thinking you're going to go in there and score 40 every time, that's not right now. That's not this team, you know. Now, when they had Hollywood and Rishi
Starting point is 00:47:47 and, you know, they were healthier and they lost Pacheco for a while. I mean, look, they've had to deal with a lot of things this year. For three years, really. Yeah, they really have. And they've played more games than everybody else, too. So that happens. That happened to us in New England where you just, there's an attrition that takes over when you're the team that's playing the final game of the season.
Starting point is 00:48:08 So I think to me, I think they'll do a great job. And he does a phenomenal job always, but he'll keep it in perspective. You know, there's value in winning close games. They're going to have to win them in January in that fashion. And so I think his team is mentally and physically tough. And for that, I think there's a lot of positive. Finally, we've seen Jordan Love of Green Bay and Jalen Hertz. Both staffs have said, we want you to throw less.
Starting point is 00:48:36 So Jordan Love's getting in the 22 to 23 attempts. In fact, any time he's thrown over like 30, 35, they're only three. And by the way, it works. And they have a great running back. Philadelphia. Jalen, at 34, we get loose. At 24, we're great. When you had Tom, and even though Tom is the most effective,
Starting point is 00:48:55 and productive quarterback ever. Was there a number you looked at and you would be in game thinking, this isn't what I want, we're going too many innings here. Because Tom was obsessed to begin with. You know, like Tommy would just throw at 50 if you let him. Did you go into games or over the course of a season? Okay, now we're in November.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Did you have a number as a coordinator? It depended on who we were playing. Okay. You know, if you go into the game and you say, listen, throwing the ball against Dwight Freeney and Mathis and that pass rush, you know, 52 times is not a good idea. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:27 We need to run the ball, you know, 28, 30, 32 times for us to feel better about controlling the game. Right. That's different. There were times where we played, you know, the Baltimore Ravens, and we went into the game saying, you can't run. We're definitely throwing at 55 or more times. And I think the decision during the week and the comfort you get with it and you tell the team, this is how we're going to try to win the game.
Starting point is 00:49:49 Would you tell Bill that? Yeah. Well, he would, yeah, he would tell me that. You know, like, I don't think we're going to make many yards running the ball. this week, you know, and you say, okay, you know, well, how many is too many, you know, seven, seven. So you just say, all right, we're going to put all our eggs in this basket. Now you might design the offensive game plan a little differently, you know, maybe a couple
Starting point is 00:50:09 less down the field throws and more screens or something else that are extensions of the running game, but that stop the rush from becoming a big factor. But I think what these teams are after is complimentary football. Right. Don't turn it over. score points when we get our opportunities, give the ball to the back as much as we can, create some big plays off that and play action,
Starting point is 00:50:29 and then play good defense. Yeah, get a lead. Run games are great with a lead, not just trailing. That's right. Great with a lead. That's right. Love having you on, man. I love being here.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers, I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick, and guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it.
Starting point is 00:50:47 We just contributed to it. We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:51:02 or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel,
Starting point is 00:51:21 help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Joey Dardano, and on my new podcast,
Starting point is 00:51:39 Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with thoughtful solutions. Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to me. This is Help from a Hypocrite,
Starting point is 00:51:57 the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite Wednesdays on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself can then shape my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well,
Starting point is 00:52:19 with Devy Brown. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:52:37 What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season, and I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. We didn't talk ever again.
Starting point is 00:52:51 I was crying. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis coming to you, he's like, you know, I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs.
Starting point is 00:53:00 This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

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