The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Rigging the NBA System
Episode Date: May 14, 2025C&R talk a couple of painful injuries in the NBA & MLB! There's big Pete Rose/Shoeless Joe Jackson news & they react to the NBA Draft Lottery being "rigged!" Plus, a certain night in Cincy... was already planned!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Monday night. A Knicks, Timberwolf
sort of Monday night. Tonight,
some big games. Well, the Pacers put
it away. So we get that Nick's Pacer's
rivalry back, probably.
Nuggets Thunder. Some exciting stuff tonight.
A Pete Alonzo type of night?
I hope you had a... That was a sacrifice fly.
Get out of here. That's the weakest Michael
Jackson dance move I've ever seen.
But I hope you had a Pete Alonzo sort of night.
Not a Oswaldo
Cabrera Jason Tatum sort of night
because that was painful to why.
much just high stakes for the Celtics, pretty much can count them out.
Tatum with the, well, I think he has the MRI today, right?
No, it's the right leg.
The right leg injury.
Underwent surgery for Achilles.
And Oswaldo Cabrera left ankle fracture.
So just a gruesome, gruesome night of injury.
You're like, ooh, you know what, Rich?
We're going to talk about the reaction because I find it hard to watch.
So I don't want to see it.
So we're going to get to that.
But just so that we're correct here, I'm right in saying he already had the surgery.
right like it's been diagnosed and surgery has been had so right leg any speculation is no
guys in the hospital had the surgery already so um wishing him well feel bad for the celtics fans
feel bad for jason tatoom i feel bad for taitam i don't think you feel better for celtics fans beat it
celtics i mean because i mean look i understand that they're a hateable franchise and defending champions
all that stuff but you don't want to see star players no no no no so i feel bad j Danny j i could
promise you, feels bad for Jason Tatum
as a human. Do you think Danny J.
a lifelong Lakers fan feels bad for the Celtics fans?
Jason Tatum's a little different, though, because he's a long-time
Kobe supporter. Yeah.
So, I mean, I wish Tatum was a Laker.
I feel bad for any fan who watches their superstar
go down and injury like that.
I thought the wheelchair was a bad move, though. I would have
waved it off, especially if I'm a Celtic.
Celtics poop their pants in wheelchairs from what I understand.
In a key situation, and again,
the Oswaldo Cabrera injury,
which I was glued to last night, was such a
somber broadcast.
And no one's really speculating before we get into all the fun stuff, Rich, right?
And the Mavericks Big Night.
Rigged, as everyone is saying, which is ridiculous.
But we'll get to that.
Just one quick question.
10-5, 9th inning, you tag up to get that 11th run.
No one's really questioning that.
Was it that important for the dude to extend themselves on a sacrifice fly when they were up 10-5 in the 9th?
Yeah.
I'll tell you why.
I mean, maybe.
That's where I'm asking.
Because no one's speculating on that.
Everyone's just really talking about how unfortunate that injury was.
His ankle 4-180, but still just a fracture.
He's on the 10-day D-L.
And now LeMayhew's off the D-L.
So that's how that works out.
10-day.
He might as well put him on the 1,000-day deal with that.
You saw that angle.
But as of now, that's what they're saying.
But I'll tell you why they did the tag up.
You're right.
They're up five runs, ninth inning.
It's low risk.
Like, listen, if the Eagles are up,
17 with three minutes to go and Seekleon gets hurt because he's in the game,
bonehead move.
If Mahomes gets sacked and the Chiefs are up or down,
21 points in the fourth quarter,
you know, assonine play.
A tag up from third?
What is it?
One in a million?
Right.
There's a better chance of the Mavericks winning the draft lottery.
He tried to avoid the catcher.
Wait, what?
He goes around the bag, his speed and his momentum,
him locks his ankle, distorts his body in a weird way, spins his ankle.
His whole leg looked like it was backwards in that moment.
And a real painful, somber situation for a really well-liked and fun guy to root for Oswaldo Cabrera.
So wishing him and Tatum the best moving forward.
But let's get into the other fun stuff.
And we'll talk more about that later on, of course, gruesome injuries and your reaction to them.
I want to get to that.
But last night, dude, not only a Knicks and Timberwolf sort of night,
a Maverick sort of night with the number one pick in the lottery, obviously getting Cooper
flag from Duke and the Spurs got the number two pick. Did you call him Goober flag? Is he a little
goobish? I called you a goober. I said Cooper flag. Goober flag. And, you know, everyone's saying
a rig today because there was a 1% chance of this happening. You know, Nico Harrison feeling a sense
of relief. Maverick fans are like, what? The odds of the Mavs and Spurs landing the one and two.
were one in 1,000, and the MAV-Spers' Sixers combo in the top three was one in 10,000.
So odds were way against this happening.
It makes you scratch your head and say, what?
Well, how is this possible?
I want to put in perspective, guys.
I did the math.
There was a better chance of Lloyd Christmas getting with Mary Swanson.
I don't think he had a 1% chance.
So you're saying there's a chance.
think that we all felt the same way.
I went to the gym right after the show yesterday.
So you're telling me there's a chance.
One in a billion.
You went to the gym?
Why don't you brag about it?
I mean, was that your first time this month?
Look at these pecks, bro.
So I go to the gym.
And without fail, the minute Danny G. text me.
And he's like, yo, people are going to say it's rigged.
You watch.
Danny, they didn't skip a beat.
The dude checking in with his little phone scanner at the desk.
He was like, yo, you see that Mavericks?
first word, rigged.
It was the hot envelope scandal.
And the guy behind the desk is like, yo, the NBA is totally rigged.
And I watched it firsthand, the chit chat at the gym simultaneously Danny G saying social media is blowing up saying rigged.
Well, hold on.
How could you not think that when there's a 1% chance of that happening?
Oh, excuse me, 1.8% chance.
1.8, fine.
Thank you, however you, Sam.
And then when you think about all the ups and downs the team just went through with.
trading Luca out of nowhere overnight
all the controversy there surrounding the ownership
all the injuries that went down
this was part of the deal everybody chanin fire
Nico and all of a sudden they're number one with a 1.8
the NBA was behind this this was part of the deal
so I'm not saying that's the case I'm saying I understand
that people are buzzing about it wait the same people
that are behind this are they the same people that write the script for the NFL
okay no that's
That's fair.
Is that here we're saying.
That's craziness.
It's crazy talk to think that sort of thing.
But we also like to think that there's no cheating with officiating and things like that, yet
we've seen it and known it to be true.
One of my favorite potential scandals of all time because I think it really is tricky
and awesome.
Yeah, but how many times do people say that the officiating's rigged?
They're like, get out of here, dude.
Yet, Donnie, he admitted it, and we have the proof.
So it's not like it's impossible that these things could happen.
Agreed.
And there's a reason why there's a buzz.
When it's such low probability, I do understand.
Rich, you always point out about judges, ex-judges, and lawyers and people involved.
And in our pre-show meeting, we're talking about a law firm maybe presiding over the NBA draft.
And I looked it up, though.
It says the NBA handles the legal aspects of the NBA draft through its own internal legal department.
So it's not like where they have the Oscars or the Grammys and they're like, well, represented by it.
They have their own lawyers in-house, their own counsel.
Well, I'll say this.
One of my favorite potential scandal slash conspiracies is the 1985 Nix Patrick Ewing draft,
where was the envelope frozen and cold so that whoever stuck their hand in was like,
I said it was the hot envelope.
Yeah.
Like, ooh, like, and it's the Nix.
That's really, that's a stretch, though.
You think you could dig your hand in a bunch of envelopes and decipher which one's the cold one?
If I told you, there's, you know, at that time, 20-something envelopes in a, you know,
you're going to be able to pick the one out of 27 that feels cold.
The cold doesn't transfer onto any envelope.
It's just the one.
Dude, it was in there with your otter pops and freezy freaky's.
It was like if one envelope.
But that goodness, like Danny G. said, Hamlin, Hamlin and McGill are involved in this.
So it has to be legit.
Well, all I'm saying is nowadays, though, where there's social media and people,
People love to speculate.
And everyone is a little sleuth, right?
Everyone wants to be their own little solving murder, you know, podcast.
You don't think that someone would be investigating the whole process.
What is it?
Is it like lottery balls, right?
I mean, I didn't watch last night.
What are we doing these days?
Yeah, it's a lottery balls, right?
I mean, there's one weighted.
It was one way.
And then, it's the hot balls scandal.
One ball was extra hot for the Mavericks.
Oh, there was a warm one for the.
Spurs.
Had a case of the old hot ball?
Yeah, the old hotball scandal.
This one doesn't involve Rich.
You know what?
To me, those balls are perfect.
Yeah.
There was a,
he had somebody to like lean into this.
Remember when LeBron did that pretty open interview with Pat McAfee?
He talked about the NBA being rigged.
Take a listen.
Listen, man, during the ball drop, you know, during the lottery drop,
Cleveland got the number one pick.
That's the, I just don't think that was.
What are you saying?
Don't you see it.
Wemby with the Spir?
Oh, my God.
Let's keep LeBron home.
You know what?
Patrick going to the Knicks.
You know, Derek Rose to the Bulls.
I understand us,
Sivan, guys.
I'm, you know, so, you know,
I had to make sure that, you know,
I had to do my part.
He's also being a little cheeky there,
joking around,
insinuating there's some truth to it,
but I'm just joking.
And I want to know how you guys feel about.
it. Before we talk about reactions to injuries and Shaq Diesel trivia, the other big story of the
night, the Mavericks with the number one pick, spurs number two, do you believe that it could
be rigged? Anything's possible, right? And we've seen it. But I'm going to tell you that I choose,
I choose to believe that the Mavericks just got really lucky, man. You know, it's improbable,
not impossible. Then answer this. So we saw the 1.8% chance happened, which is.
is wild. That's like getting struck by
it's like getting struck by lightning. It happens.
Bitten by a shark. You know, it happens
to people. And that's why they were pumped about it.
We're getting a plane crash. These things happen.
They're all acting and they're all in on it.
If you want some lottery numbers to play later,
the winning combination of ping pong
balls that earned Dallas the number one pick,
10, 14, 11, and 7.
Ooh. Those are the numbers right now.
10, 14, 11, 7.
You know, Danny J.
I want...
Yeah.
You, Sam, Dan Byer, Kavino, and in fact, I want the Fox Sports Radio Nation to hit us up.
87799 on Fox.
For anyone that genuinely thinks, maybe it is rigged.
Maybe this is the Denver airport, or maybe this is, we landed on the moon?
Maybe not.
Is this the who shot JFK?
If you believe in, you know, all the wild conspiracies out there.
The earth is flat.
All right, Kyrie.
Then answer me this.
For real.
I'm not mocking.
I'm curious.
How do you think they did?
Did it? Do you think it was a weighted ball? Do you think the league got in with the owners? Because no owner would agree to this. So you think it was a one-on-one like Nico Harrison Mavericks meeting like, hey, listen, we did you a solid. Lucas a later.
In order for that to happen, yeah, you have to have some sort of plan, right? Some sort of schemery. And like Danny G insinuated.
Anyone that will have to assume that the law firm is involved in it. Anyone that would blow the whistle can't be involved. So this has to be like a secret inside job. So if you think that, you know,
20, you know.
This is a shady Saul Goodman sort of.
You know, it is their own lawyers now employed by the NBA in-house.
Like it said, Saul Goodman.
They could, yeah, they could be in on it.
So if you think, you would hope they're not.
If you think shenanigans were to play.
Who was his name?
Jimmy McGill?
Yeah, but Slipping Jimmy.
Slipping Jimmy.
This is the old Slipping Jimmy situation, I think.
Wait, is slipping Jimmy involved?
Yeah, so I said Hamlin, Hamlin McGill.
I know.
But yeah, slip in Jimmy.
Because that's extra shady.
if you think everyone's involved in that way.
Is that impossible?
No.
But I don't think that's happening.
You know, for every conspiracy.
I never believe that frozen emerald situation.
The first thing I always asked myself in a conspiracy is how many people would have to completely
shut their mouth, be involved, being on it without blowing, you know, whistle blowing.
Right.
I believe that.
I believe more in the Colombian alien sphere that they found this week more than I believe.
that this was rigged.
Dan By,
you're a reasonable guy.
Are you just minding your own now
because you feel like it's all hogwash?
Or do you think there's some possibility
that there's, you know,
injustice.
It's rigged.
It's a tomfoolery.
I do feel that there is an undercurrent
of possible tomfoolery or rigging,
if you will.
I am not happy that the Mavericks
were the ones who were to benefit from it.
And that would be the team
that you could most likely connect
to the rigging,
not because of them being the Mavericks,
but because they gave Luca to the Lakers.
If Luca was traded to the Orlando Magic,
I don't think that there's a, hey, here's a solid,
here's a tip of the cap.
But, hey, thanks so much for putting one of our premier superstars
to take the torch from LeBron and our golden franchise
and be able to carry that on.
So I could see it.
I put it at 50% earlier, which was a bit of a stretch,
but maybe around 20%.
25%?
Big words.
You know, Dan Byer, it's interesting because
that sense of how the Luke
to the Lakers thing
never seem to be rewarded
for this.
Well, yeah, I mean, you hate to think
that's true, but of course is possible
at the beginning
middle and end of the day, it's a business.
So if it's good for the league,
it's good for everybody. And it could be just a
business move and they're just
trying to make us believe that.
that this is the truth.
You know how it's all,
you know what people love to say,
and I don't know if this is true.
I'm just repeating something
I've seen on social media,
which is the problem with most conversations nowadays,
so I apologize.
Every time people talk about,
well, the NFL,
the script and it's rigged,
people love to plot the fact that
the NFL is registered
as an entertainment league,
or something to the nature that,
like, they're off the hook
of something ever came out like that.
you seen people say stuff like that?
I don't know about
the legality of it's registered
as an entertainment league, but
even in the fight game,
anytime you see something go down like this,
the first thing they always say is, look,
this is still entertainment.
It really is.
They're trying to get people to watch.
They're trying to get people to tune in.
It's all about ratings and
money. How many times has the fighter?
The league, it's possible.
How many times have you know has the fighter
that they needed to win
to set up another big fight
lost in a close fight
but they won on the car
because in a month or so people will forget
and...
Well, fighting's rigged, right?
We know that there's definitely rigging
going on, shadiness in the fight game.
But it's also a business
and you also want to be able to sell a fight.
And if you can't sell a fight
because there's no personality behind it,
then you're failing in that entertainment factor
of the sport, right?
which is part of it.
This is just good for the league.
It's just a lot of drama for the league,
which could sell the league,
which could be more money, more ratings.
Like Dan Byrinsinuated,
a little backscratch for the Mavericks.
And we saw a lot of that.
Last night, we saw a lot of that as far as the Lakers go.
Like it says, Chris Paul was traded from New Orleans to L.A.,
and then New Orleans gets the number one pick.
AD was traded from New Orleans to L.A.
New Orleans gets the number one pick.
Right.
Luca traded to
from Dallas to L.A. of course. Dallas gets the
number one pick. LeBron left Cleveland
for Miami. Cleveland gets three of the
four next four number one
picks, including the one when LeBron
came home for the trade
for Kevin Love. Yeah.
So it just looks bad.
It kind of feels like it looks really bad
when you list all that out, Danny J.
But it kind of feels like how
the W.W.E. gave up
the ruse of it being real at one point, right?
Because they always stayed into character.
and then all of a sudden they stopped.
The NBA and fighting and sports,
they still put up that illusion, that ruse that it's legit
when maybe it's all planned out.
Or maybe it is legit.
But the games are legit.
I don't know.
It's not impossible.
I do believe that it's improbable.
I do believe that they just got lucky.
But it's not impossible, dude.
I know you're saying from a Donahey.
From a business standpoint.
From the standpoint, yeah, when there's that much money involved,
and if it's good for the league and favors are being,
and done.
Well, yesterday we went over...
These businessmen
try to pull one over on anybody
and they think the viewing audience is dumb.
We went over the possible landing spots
for a Cooper flag yesterday with Dan Byer.
And of the top three highest
odds, we said, maybe Utah
I got good coaching and they're revamping
that basketball program.
And maybe the Utah Jazz was a good landing spot.
But the other options seems sort of like
the way you go to die.
You know, no offense. Like Charlotte Hornets?
Washington, yeah. No thanks.
So, you know, you take a guy
like Cooper Flag and you put
on a team with Kyrie and AD both healthy, you don't have a team that might compete.
You have a team that could very all be a top five team in the West.
Oh, they're back in it.
Yeah, for sure.
They're in the mix again.
Without a doubt.
He went from possibly playing for a 20-win team to a contending team.
Yeah.
That would be the difference there.
That would be the assumption anyway for a Cooper flag.
Hot balls.
It's the hot ball theory.
You heard it here first.
The hot ball scandal with the Maverick.
Not the frozen envelope, the hot balls.
The hot balls.
Personally, I think it's magnets.
How do they work?
How do those magnets?
No, I'm kidding.
Oh, okay.
But what if it's magnets?
And how do they work?
Well, think about, you know, when those balls are popping around, like your Yolanda Vega with the lottery numbers, they're all a ping pong balls, right?
I mean, you're right.
What if there's magnets, Sam?
The Nix theory in 1985 for Patrick Ewing was the, as you guys were saying, frozen envelope bent corn.
Yeah.
But you visually could see the tumbler.
You could visually see the envelope.
Right.
What makes this so secretive is no one sees it.
All we see is them unveiling the cards from the predetermined lotto drawing coming out of the hopper that was one person saw, maybe two people saw.
Like that adds actually more to the theory of what is going on behind closed doors as opposed to maybe slight of hand that happened right in front of 40 years ago.
D.B. You know, Rich, you're just not in the room where it happens.
DB, that's such an amazing point because, you know, I'll be honest.
I got to be honest with you guys. Perhaps because I was at the gym and I didn't see it,
every time I've seen the draft lottery winners, you're right.
They're all sitting there and they hold up the logo with the team.
I thought maybe someone did see this. And if you're confirming that, no one really sees the balls
being picked, then there's someone from a law firm, maybe two people in the room.
A couple people in there.
They're the ones that conduct.
it because they don't want any leaks, they don't want any drama.
A couple envelopes of money.
What's this?
Hey, Charlotte Hornets, you like being in the league, right?
Yeah, she?
It does seem, look, it's fair to speculate.
All we're doing is speculating, guys, because nobody really knows, as I mentioned,
we're not in the room where it happens.
But when there's that much money to be made and that much money to be had and spent
and bought, anybody could be bought to shut up and let it happen.
Because it's good for the league.
They used to show the actual drawing of the ping pong balls, by the way.
It was like, yeah, like a lot, like an actual lottery.
Like I said, Yolanda Vig.
Exactly.
You're a pick six.
Let me bring up one more point, and this is by no means to be insensitive.
But, you know, we were living in New York during 9-11.
And, you know, there are people that have all crazy conspiracies about terrible days like that.
And I will say, you saw planes hit towers, awful.
You saw things happen.
The fact that they never released footage of a plane.
hitting the Pentagon is why people are like, well, what really hit the Pentagon?
You could put that to rest if there were video of that.
Not to compare one of the worst days in U.S. history to an NBA lottery, but when you don't
have the visual proof of something, it leaves your mind open to wander.
Plus, you never saw the plane parts, really.
You never saw real evidence.
People just want the evidence.
Even in this day and age, though, people will get the evidence, and the internet will just be
like, well, no, we can explain this way.
We can explain that a way.
You know what? That's what Danny G. was insinuating.
We were having our little pre-show meeting in the lobby when Shaq Diesel was walking in.
We said, hey, what's up, Shaq?
He's like, what are you guys talking about?
We were saying how you could have the proof right there in your face and you're still
going to believe what you want.
Everything points into the direction of, man, that is fixed.
And even me, I don't want to believe it really.
I'm like, ah, come on.
I want to feel like, even though we're the.
All the evidence is there for you to believe that.
There's no way, dude.
I want to feel like even though we're the lightest, most fun show on sports radio,
I'd like to think that, you know, we don't take anything too serious.
We're having a lot of fun.
I still think we're above saying conspiracy, but I still, there is a part of me.
It's like, yeah, me, me.
It is kind of wild.
And I think social media has sort of conditioned our minds to amplify it, a lot of crazy thoughts.
Yeah, yeah, to be like, get out of here.
I'm not believing that.
because you see so much hogwash and BS on social media,
your automatic default now is like, nah, that can't be true.
I'll believe it when I see it.
And we're seeing this right before our eyes,
but our default is, nah, they wouldn't do that.
Come on.
What do they think were that stupid?
Then again, did we really see it?
Or did we just see names being called?
And again, let me read that once that.
I thought it was really interesting.
I screenshot it.
That's my method here.
The odds of the Mavs and.
Spurs landing one in two or one in one thousand.
Mavs, spurs, sixers,
combo top three, one in ten thousand chance.
Not good odds. Not good odds.
So 1.8%
it happened yesterday. Congrats to the Mavs.
Well, coming up, we're going to talk about
why Barry Bond should think about
faking his death. I'll explain.
Shack Diesel trivia.
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We have some big news.
What's the news, new?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to a...
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.
We're out there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name,
Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it
one of the early names of our band.
Before Jonas Brothers was...
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing,
a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say,
Hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad,
Hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
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Conspiracies,
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I saw Shaq Diesel in the hallway.
We're going to do some trivia.
Giving away prizes. And of course,
the big Pete Rose announcement.
We will get to that at the
top of the hour, 3 p.m. on the West.
I was called it the big shootless Joe Jackson
News. You could call it that too. We'll talk
about that a half hour from now. I'm excited.
There's a lot. We have some thoughts about that as well.
There's a lot of fun to get to you. Covino and Rich
on Fox Sports Radio, Danny G. J. J. J. Javier Sam,
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And as we get to your phone calls about conspiracies rigged at the NBA draft lottery last night,
you said something off the year.
I just have to point out it's so true.
I was Sam telling us that his confirmation name is Javier last week.
Might be one of my favorite moments of our show.
It sounds like like Jerry finding out that Kramer's middle name was Javier or something like that.
Or his real name.
And he's like, what in the hell?
His first name being Cosmo.
Osmo.
Javier.
It just sounds like something you see on a sitcom.
It really impacted you that much, Rich.
Oh, so funny.
You're the whitest guy we know, cotton-headed ninnie muggins,
and your confirmation name was Javier?
For what?
Really is.
Honestly, you are like our Zany sitcom neighbor.
I was saying, everybody.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
Now, to your phone calls, we'll wrap up the draft lottery.
And like you said, lots of great stuff.
We'll get to Pete Rose and news out of baseball.
Shack Diesel trivia.
Let's go to Big Bird in Georgia.
Big Bert.
You're on with CNR.
Hey, guys.
Hey, I just want to make sure it's big Bert, not Big Butt.
What's up?
Big Butt.
No, not Big Bert.
Mr. But.
Yeah, not Mr. Burr.
Hey, I just want to speak on it.
Hey, you know, the whole conspiracy theory is not always
rainbows and sunshine.
Speaking as a New York Knicks fan, we got Patrick Ewan in the shadiest form.
But did we ever get a championship?
No.
What we really don't need to look at is the Vegas connections with Dallas.
and the bookies and see what Nico
bet it on. You know,
our buddy West, speaking of Vegas, our buddy West
in Vegas, one of our good pals, listener
of the show, he did point out something interesting.
He goes, so quote, conspiracy
theories, over the years,
things that we thought were conspiracies end up
being not so conspiracy
after all. He said some
of the things people thought were facts about
COVID, 9-11.
There are things throughout life
where, as more and more comes out,
like maybe it's not totally untrue, but
parts of it are
cover-ups.
The tuck rule is still 100% rigged.
Tuck rule.
But have you been told your entire life,
he said, that something or
sounds or looks too good to be true,
probably is BS.
Are you saying where there's smoke, there's fire?
Rich, what we're looking at on Reddit
during the commercial break.
Danny G. showed me the feed of when
they actually
little ping pong balls are popping up.
And there was some lawyers and media on standby.
But again,
with their pockets lined?
we'll never know.
They don't really publicize that broadcast,
which is odd when you think about how everything's a spectacle nowadays.
Everything's a big event.
Cove, what I read.
The actual lottery of this.
And by the way, there's an update.
It's the old sticky balls conspiracy.
It's not hot balls, sticky balls.
They have time constraints, Covino's what I read,
is why they've switched it up a little bit.
Because, yeah, they used to show the long process and people fell asleep.
People's gender reveals and birth announcements are more elaborate than this.
and we're talking the NBA.
And again, the winning numbers were 10, 14, 11, and 7.
The Mavs getting the number one pick.
The sticky balls.
With the sticky balls.
DB.
There was also only seven teams in the lottery at one point.
Now there's 14.
So, like, you didn't have as many teams in the league at that time.
Seven or eight teams.
Another great point.
Really fall asleep now.
So it's the opposite of the, remember in the Home Alone 2, the Sticky Bandits?
Like, you just stick your hand in, the sticky balls will stick to you.
Yeah.
Here we go.
Pops up.
All right.
So congrats to the Mavs and the Spurs, and we're going to wrap it up with this phone call.
Yeah, that's Charles in Florida.
Hey, Charles.
What's good on?
I'm calling you from Cape Coral, Florida.
How are you guys doing today?
We're good, man.
What's up?
All right, so it's all rigged, brother.
It's all rigged.
I mean, I have friends that swore they were going to stop watching the NFL when they went to Vegas.
Okay.
So you are one of these guys.
I wanted to hear his explanation.
I was going to say, Charles, you're one of these guys that truly believes sports are rigged.
Did he drop?
Charles, you, oh, my God, the NBA dropped.
They got to him.
They got to him.
Oh, no, Charles.
He got sniped.
Oh, man, sorry, Charles.
You knew too much.
He knew too much.
All right, so, hey, NBA draft lottery.
Hey, it was fun yesterday.
I think, you know what, rigged or not?
pretty cool to think that Cooper Flag is going to go to a team that matters.
And instead of watching a young guy struggle on a bad team,
we're going to watch a young stud player jump right in with AD and Kyrie.
Right into the mix.
And a squad.
So it should be interesting.
And you know, the spurs are going to get better, Wemby.
Like you're setting the NBA up, which is fantastic.
You know what would be great Nico trades this pick.
Yeah, I saw those memes yesterday.
Hilarious.
And by the way, there is a.
question. That doesn't necessarily save
his job, does it? Just because they got
lucky? No, there's no guarantee
that flag is going to be a
wonderful NBA player. Right.
Because everyone's also speculating, like,
oh, man, he's all happy now. It's like,
yeah, is he safe? I don't know.
I told you about it. You heard people
at the gym talking about this. I go,
Yon does that save Nico Harrison's job?
And the guy screamed back to me,
no, that B's going to get fired anyway.
I'm like, okay. Some people think
his days are numbered regardless. So,
We shall see. But let's go to Dan Byer for an update DB.
What's going on, my friends?
Guys, breaking news from Major League Baseball, as they have ended the lifetime bans of 17 deceased individuals,
that includes Pete Rose and shoeless Joe Jackson, taking the players off of the permanently ineligible list.
In a letter to the attorney for Pete Rose, baseball commissioner Rob Manfred said,
quote, a person no longer with us cannot represent a threat to the integrity of the game.
Manfred calling the move a policy issue.
stating the permanent ineligibility ends upon the passing of the disciplined individual.
Now, this does not mean that Pete Rose and Shulis Joe Jackson will automatically be enshrined in Cooperstown,
completely separate deal.
However, they are now eligible to be enshrined in Cooperstown.
As the Baseball Hall of Fame says, the Historical Overview Committee will develop the ballot of eight names for the classic baseball-era committee,
which evaluates candidates who made the greatest impact on the game prior to 1980 to vote on when it meets.
next in December of 2027.
So if they were to go into the hall,
they would need 12 out of 16 votes from that classic baseball-era committee,
and that vote does not take place for another 2-plus years.
Celtics forward Jason Tatum underwent successful surgery today
to repair his torn right Achilles tendon after suffering the injury
and last night's game four lost to the Knicks.
The estate of Paul Allen announced they have begun the process of selling the Portland Trailblazers.
Damien, excuse me, Donovan Mitchell remains a game-time decision for the
Cavs as they host the Pacers in tonight's game 5, 7 o'clock Eastern Time.
Nuggets and Thunder 930 Eastern Time.
That series tied up at two apiece.
Some schedule leaks from the NFL as it will be released tomorrow.
Vikings and Steelers in Dublin, Ireland, week 4, September 28th.
Then the next week, Vikings stay overseas, but they'll play in London against the Cleveland Browns.
Falcons and Colts will be playing in Germany.
Commanders and Dolphins, Week 11, November 16th, playing in Madrid.
Spain Eagles and Packers on a Monday night in Lambo in week 10 on November 10th.
Finally, Rory McElroy, Scottie Sheffler and Zander Shoffley will tee off at 822 Eastern
time Thursday morning in the first round of the PGA Championship at Quill Hollow,
as that group will be paired together for the first two rounds of the second major of the year.
Guys, back to you.
Now, DB, was it the Vikings you said had back-to-back Euro games?
Yes, they'll be playing in Ireland and then in London.
Now, this is the first time to do it in two international countries.
We've seen the Jaguars be over there for consecutive weeks,
but the Vikings will be the first to go from Ireland to England.
If you're a guy with a couple extra of ducats in the bank account,
if you invested in Tesla a month ago when it went up 25%.
Sure.
That's a pretty cool.
If you have the time to take off of work,
like, I'm going to go for a week and back end the Vikings games.
What a cool international trip that would be for a Vikings fan.
100%.
And I actually think it's a benefit.
I'd rather play the Steelers in Dublin than I would in Pittsburgh or the Browns.
in week 17 in Cleveland or how about in week five in London?
I actually think it could be a benefit for them.
No doubt.
You just gave our boss an idea.
You know, I thought of that because our boss loves to do those fun trips.
I would not be shocked if he's like, yeah, boys, I'm going to London and Ireland.
Sounds like a fun time.
He's like scull.
He's painting his face purple as we speak.
Yeah, I think so.
All right.
Hey, we got more Kavino and Rich.
And we are going to dive way more into that Pete Rose, shoeless Joe Jackson.
Big announcement today.
We're diving head first helmet flying off like Pete Rose into it.
Hair flopping?
Yeah. Can't wait. More C&R next.
Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news.
What's the news, name?
Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
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Word on the streets, by the way.
Is that we're filling in for DP on Friday?
If word on the street means we are, then yes.
There you go.
I'm just trying to hype it up.
Trying to make people speculate.
People are talking.
Yeah, we're going to be here.
So Friday morning, join us on the Dan Patrick show early, like Mr. Furley.
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Who's down there?
Larry Dallas with women named Lankton.
Lana or another 70s, 80s names?
You know, I was watching, I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry.
It's on Netflix, I believe.
Which, by the way, it's so inappropriate from today's standard, even though it's a happy ending.
Yeah.
Did you know Larry is in that movie?
Larry Dallas.
Yeah, Larry Dallas from Threes Company.
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We're going to talk Pete Rose, Joe Jackson, and more, okay?
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Let's wrap up some of the other stuff we were talking about.
Yeah, I mean, Charles was back.
Remember we thought he got sniped?
Yeah.
Charles in Florida.
Your thoughts on, you're the guy,
you're the type of guy that thinks a lot of sports are rigged, correct?
I don't want to believe that.
I grew up in Chicago in the 90s, and Mike was my jam.
Yeah.
I wanted to be like Mike.
You know, I couldn't dunk because I had no love.
But, you know, you're talking about.
Of course, man.
But you think, like, you look at that NFL draft lottery,
the NBA draft lottery, and you think to yourself,
it's got to be fixed.
That's your mindset?
It's got to be.
I mean, but the odds, the odds of, like,
didn't get both.
And then here's the thing.
What about all the other sports, too?
Like, what about, um,
what about the Taylor Swift, Travis Kelsey thing?
Yeah.
And it makes a lot of sense as to why maybe they got rid of Luca.
Maybe they had prior knowledge of that information.
They knew that was going to happen.
Maybe that's why it all.
It does make it make more sense, right?
Because in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night, they make that trade for what?
I'll say this.
I know what I love to watch.
Trash TV.
I heard Spots say smut.
No, that's that, okay, yeah, sure.
It's Smut Island.
That's what he's watching.
I love to watch dumb stuff like ancient aliens and conspiracy documentaries.
But at the end of the day, in fact, the beginning, middle and end of the day,
I don't really believe all of it, but damn, it's fun.
And I think when we have these conversations, man, it really is fun to talk about guys in a secret room being like,
oh, the Mavericks are going to get the first pick because they gave up Luca to the Lakers and did the League of Solid.
It's so much fun to talk about.
But really, it didn't.
happen that way. I like to believe that. Come on. The league has integrity. But some of these sports
conspiracies got to be true, right? I mean, not all of them. Yeah, not everything is what it appears.
I choose to not believe that just for my own sanity. Like, there's no way. I know we're not going to get into a
whole conspiracy debate because we're going to get to Pete Rose next, but do you believe the
Cal Ripkin Jr. Kevin Costner story? Yes. That one is fun. I also believe in Bigfoot,
but I just believe that Bigfoot is blurry.
That's all.
Oh, that's why we...
Like Mitch Hedberg said.
Anyone ever think that Bigfoot's just blurry?
Yeah, he can't get a good picture of him.
No, you can.
He's just blurry.
Do you know they try to clear it up with today's technology
and they're saying like the muscle definition
would be hard to replicate back then in that way?
He's that ripped?
Yeah.
Because you actually see muscles moving when he's walking
that it has to be real.
So you're saying Bigfoot did CrossFit?
Yeah.
Do you guys know that in Cincinnati,
they were already set for it to be Pete Rosen,
night tomorrow.
Our buddy Mouser, who's a big Reds fan, hit us up and he goes, coincidentally, look
at that tomorrow, Pete Rose night at the stadium.
Look at that.
All right, so we are going to talk about Pete Rose.
There's a big story revolving around Pete and Shootless Joe Jackson and other band players.
We'll get to that next.
Kavino and Rich having some fun here on Fox Sports Radio.
Hang tight.
Hey, guys, it's us.
The Jonas Brothers.
I'm Joe.
I'm Kevin.
And I'm Nick.
And guess what?
We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick.
Tired and sick.
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