The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 1 - Rodgers, Broncos, Lakers

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

Colin takes note of what Aaron Rodgers said about the Packers losing streak  Broncos HC Nathaniel Hackett could be in danger of losing his job The Lakers mad a mistake keeping Russell Westbrook   Guest: Nick WrightSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He gives us so much content. I don't totally disagree with that. Between Rogers and Tom Brady, both kind of imploding, Colin, this is becoming a fascinating NFL season. Let's start with that. They say alcohol is a truth serum. Get a couple pops in you. The truth starts to come out.

People loosen up, start telling you things that wouldn't normally tell you. Alcohol is a truth serum. I also think to some degree crisis is a truth serum. How do you act when you don't get your way? Everybody's a nice guy when their son hits a home run in the Little League game. What happens when he strikes out and the umpire makes a bad call? you are who you are in crisis when you don't get your own way. So Aaron Rogers, very interesting.

So Russell Wilson is having the worst seven-game stretch in his career. What has he done? Mr. Optimistic, we're going to get it solved. We'll figure it out. That's Russell Wilson. Tom Brady is having the worst seven-game stretch in his career. yesterday in this podcast. I'm not quitting. I love my guys. We'll figure it out. I'm not considering retirement. I love my coaches. I love my teammates. Aaron Rogers is having the worst seven game

stretch perhaps in his career. What did Aaron say? He went in a YouTube show and called out his coach and called out his teammates. I think guys are making too many mistakes. They shouldn't be playing. I got to start cutting some reps on the those guys and maybe those guys shouldn't be playing. Give other guys a chance. So saying that publicly is not only a shot at those players and they all know in that locker room who he's talking about. So you're calling out young guys. It's also calling out Mount LaFleur. What it's basically saying is our coach doesn't even know who to put in the game. If I said publicly, hey man, there's too many mistakes on heard line news. Somebody else deserves more reps. That wouldn't just be a criticism of Jason.

it would be a criticism of my bosses who can't watch the show figure it out and make moves, so I'm going to call them out so they'll do it. By the way, this is the second shot at Matt Lafleur in a month. And did you notice with this comment, once again with Aaron, it's their fault. It's them. They, they've got to figure it out. They're not doing it. Aaron Rogers has been in this league for 15 years, and he still.

can't figure out the leadership thing. Mahomes figured it out in one year. Brady in a year. Peyton Manning in a year. What does leadership look like? It's okay to bark at a coach or a teammate on the sideline. Manning's done it. Mahomes has done it. Brady's done it. That's conflict resolution. That's not passive aggressive. That is confronting something you're mad. He and Eric B. Enemy, Mahomes. Next day, you're all good. Aaron doesn't do that. It's all passive. of aggressive. It's going on shows instead of confronting a coach in the office. It's falling on the sword. That's what leadership looks like. You know, the old Eli Manning story. After losses, he was always available to the press. After wins, he let his teammates

talk. That's what leadership looks like. Leadership is keeping drama out of the press, not inserting it into the press. Fifteen years. He hadn't figured it out. In fact, the eye roll with Aaron Rogers now is his signature. move. It used to be discount double check. His signature move now is the eye roll. We get it weekly. And I'm not saying Green Bay's front office doesn't have some responsibility in this. I have said that for years. Stop drafting defensive guys in the first round. Get left tackles, get centers, get wide receivers. But I have singularly, for 10 years as a national sportscaster, in the last 10 years, 15 years of errands, I have singularly been the

person that has said, we all want to blame the front office. Some of this is Aaron Rogers. Some of it is. So I think it's fascinating. Alcohol and crisis. Show me who you are. Russell Wilson, worth seven games. We're going to fix it. Brady were seven games going to a podcast yesterday. Brady's reaction is I love my teammates. I love them. I'm doubling down on these guys. Aaron Rogers, we've got to cut reps. Got to get these guys off to field. A shot at teammates. A shot at Lafleur. This is who he is. When Aaron doesn't get his own way, they, them, they figured out, they've got to do that. That is not leadership. So when you all were telling me for years and years, the goat isn't Brady, it's Aaron Rogers. It's like,

oh, you don't get football. You don't get sports. It's not just talent. Mello had talent. Westbrook's got talent. LeBron gets leadership. Michael Jordan got leadership. Magic Johnson got leadership. All right. How about this? Nathaniel Hackett, coach of Denver, quote, job could be on the line.

According to Dan Graziano, I know Dan, he's excellent, reporter at ESPN. He could be out of a job if he does not beat the Jaguars this weekend. I think that's the London game. By the way, this is exactly the right. right move. This is exactly what you do. You pivot off mistakes. USC tried to convince themselves for seven, eight years. Clay Hilton was the right coach. You could tell by about year two, he wasn't. In week one, you and I sat there and watched the return by Russell Wilson to Seattle.

You knew and I knew. You knew. You knew. He didn't know what he was doing. He had no idea what he was doing. Go back and look at that. YouTube it. He had no idea what he was doing. He's not a head coach. He's a coordinator. They had to literally, by week two or three, hire somebody in clock management. I mean, how many coaches you got to hire to fix his issues? The NFL is like every industry. Five to seven percent are great. And that's it. We got about six great quarterbacks, maybe fewer. We got about six or seven really, really, really good coaches. Matt LaFlewer is not one of them, by the way. Stop saying that. Russell Wilson is not washed. How do I know? Because in the history of American sports. Let's just stick to football to simplified or basketball.

Nobody goes from really, really, really good, really good, really good, really good, four years in a row to terrible without drug use or an injury. Now, by the way, Russell Wilson is banged up. That could be some of it. He's not washed. If you were a great salesperson and a lot of people listening to me now are driving around cars in America, they're listening to me on Sirius XM, they're listening to me on Premier Radio, Fox Sports Radio. And for four years, you are a B plus to an A minus sales per. You're really good at what you do. And then in the fifth year, you're not only bad, you're the worst in your region.

There's two things. Either you got a new boss and he sucks or the product you're selling stinks. You don't go from really, really, really, really good without drugs or an injury in sports. and become the worst player at your position in the league. It's coaching. I'm not saying Russ isn't responsible. His deep ball isn't as accurate. But folks, Oklahoma football.

Brett Venables is a whiff. Move off it. Urban Meyer Jags, whiff, move off it. Steve Wilkes, Arizona, whiff, move off it. Freddie Kitchens, move off it. It's not the end of the world. I mean, Nathaniel Hackett, there's reasons he got the job. Number one, his dad was a coach.

So we look at that and think, oh, it came from a football family. That's very powerful. So did Kyle Shanahan. That's very powerful. It often means you're a good coach. Your dad coached. He was in Green Bay, prolific offense with Aaron Rogers. Right, right?

So people go, oh, that's pretty good. And by the way, Luke Getsey was in Green Bay as one of those coordinator guys. He went to Chicago. He looks really good. So people have left Green Bay and been really good. So it's not the end of the world. It doesn't mean he can't coach football. Can't be a coordinator.

make a great living. And there's reasons they hired him. Dad was a successful coach at multiple levels. He came from a very foundationally strong, historically strong offense. You know, MVP Aaron Rogers back to back years, I get the hire. But you don't double down on wrong. Pivot off it fast. I mean, I looked at Denver this season. I looked at their NFL rankings offensively. They're not only bad. They're lasting everything. You really think Russell's the worst quarterback in the league. By far. Really, that's what you think. After four very good years. Come on now. Even the mild-mandered Mark Schlerath, who lives in Denver, went off last week on the current culture in the Mile High City. I had my annual physical yesterday, and my prostate exam was more

pleasurable than watching the Broncos play offense. When you play offensive line, you're forced to be tough, right? Because you're going to get a mouthful on every single play. You get to choose. You get to choose whether to be dominant as a wide receiver. You get to choose whether you want to do the dirty work or not. You get to choose whether you want to make a great block or not. They're choosing not to. They're choosing to be soft. And from a coaching standpoint, Nathaniel Hackett,

and listen, I like Nathaniel Hackett a lot. But you're either coaching that or you're allowing it to happen. So the story today, Nathaniel Hackett could be coaching for his job in London. this week. For the record, I like the Jags. Not that that matters, but I like the Jags in that game. And I know you all think I love Russell Wilson. You don't go from very good years to the worst player in the league at your position

without somebody pulling you down. Maybe I overestimate how good he is. He's not that. He's not that. There is no precedent in sports for that. You don't go, you're not a 24-game winner in baseball, a 23-game winner, a 24-game winner at 23-year. Then you're the worst pitcher in the sport. You either have a rotator cuff issue, you had Tommy John, or they don't know how to use you.

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Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Great story by Chris Mannix of Sports Illustrated, a fine writer, talking about the Lakers in danger of completely unraveling. Let me read the opening paragraph from Chris Mannix. Here's a solution, Lakers, fire Frank Vogel, fire him, can him, send him pack him, put him on a bus back to Orlando. His substitution patterns are reckless. His inability to connect with Russell Westbrook is costing the team. teams, games.

Oh, wait, the Lakers already fired Frank Vogel. Oh. For months, says Manix, we were led to believe Vogel was part of the problem in L.A. Well, Vogel's gone. The Lakers are winless, and it's abundantly clear L.A.'s issues run far deeper. Westbrook says Mannix has to go. It didn't work last season. It won't work here.

Everybody knows it. There's no deal that will instantly transform the Lakers into contenders. But there are deals like Buddy Healed that will make them better. Think about this. San Antonio, Portland and Utah were considered have-nots in the West. The West is really deep. I mean, the Pelicans won last night without Zion or Brandon Ingram. They're two best players.

They won a game last night. So San Antonio, Portland, Utah, especially San Antonio and Utah, really considered have-nots. They're combined 10 and 2. Portland won against Denver the other night. The West is really, really deep and apparently deeper than we thought. And here's what happened with the Lakers. The Lakers played high stakes poker. And they were dealt a bad hand and they went all in and the rest of the league called their bluff.

They were dealt a bad hand. Westbrook was a bad deal. And I got double down on it. They thought they could elevate his value this year. They'll get somebody to bite on it, take a flyer, on him. And the league said, no, bro, not interested. Westbrook is rigid. That's his personality. A lot of people are rigid. He is a little stubborn. That's his personality. And he's toxic. Hasn't been all of his career is now. And those personality types just don't flip a switch.

The Lakers did have a glimmer of hope. They could have moved off him, moved off him, brought in buddy healed in camp early in the season. There's some wins here. Build some chemistry. Get LeBron a shooter. LeBron elevates every shooter he's played within his career. I mean, for an hour, we thought KCP was going to be really something, right? And there was a glimmer of hope. But now the Lakers are desperate. Everybody knows they have to get out of Westbrook. The Lakers are on TV tonight, another national TV game. So, you're you can see LeBron's body language and 80s body language when Westbrook does something they don't like. The West is way deeper than we thought, way deeper.

Portland's apparently way better than we thought. And this front office just keeps digging and digging and digging. It's like, guys, fill that hole up. Don't dig deeper. And I said this all off-season. This one I was right on, I said, listen, you can fix a lot in pro sports. You can fix a bad bullpen. You can fix in the NBA a bad bench.

You cannot fix toxicity. I have worked at three or four major corporations. Get a bad egg in the building. Get that person out. You cannot solve toxicity. That's a personality type. And if you really dig deep, they were toxic somewhere else. They're toxic after they leave.

This is what Russell is. He's rigid. He's got his thing. He's now an eroding player. He's made a lot of money. and no reason to pick on him, but you've got to get this out of the building. This just does not work. The Laker fans know it.

The media knows it. The broadcasters know it. The players know it. And now everybody's protecting him. Got to get it out of the building. There's a saying in the NFL, do not let one bad loss become two. In the NFL, you got to get over ugly, right? Like New England.

Get over it. Own your crap. Barry the tape and win next week. I mean, the bears are almost a nine-point underdog to Dallas this week. Like week to week to week to week. Don't get too cocky after a winner. It becomes a loss. Don't get too down after a loss.

Or it becomes a second loss. The Lakers have done something entirely different. They're making a bad season, potentially another bad season. In the NFL, you don't want to make a bad loss, another bad loss. Lakers are like, yeah, last year did not work. Let's double down on it. We've all worked. All of us have worked in workplaces in our work.

lives. All of us. Think about yourself. Go back to your work career. You can solve so many issues. I work with people who I think are kind of limited, but you can find places for problems and people. But if somebody's toxic and everybody knows it and everybody's walking on eggshells, it's got to move that person out of the building. And you'll find later that person will be rigid, stubborn, and toxic again. And you'll find that person was probably rigid, stubborn and toxic before they came to your workplace. That you can't solve. You can't buy your way out of it.

You just got to trade it, move it. And the NBA, the NFL is a hard cap. NBA gives you a lot of leeway to get out of stuff. I mean, the warriors now are paying like a $400, $500 million salary caps tax. Like it's insane. You can't do that in the NFL. In the NFL sometimes, baseball sometimes contractually, you can get a little trapped here where you know, trading deadline.

I mean, the NBA, you've got exceptions here and you get draft picks here and you can move here. I mean, the NBA will give you, you can get out of the Westbrook deal. It's an expiring contract. It's very attractive to a lot of people. You could literally make a move, get draft picks if you're Indiana. I mean, Buddy Heald's not taking you to a championship anyway. The opportunities are here. The Lakers are now the stubborn one.

We all think Westbrook's just the only stubborn one. The Lakers are now the stubborn one. Russ has a hamstring injury, and he is doubtful for tonight's game. I look this up, Colin. You want to guess how many hamstring injuries high-flying Russell Westbrook has had in his entire NBA career? How many? Zero. Never had one hamstring injury, and here we are three games into the season.

Ah, hamstring. Something's fishy there. Yep. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Let's start with Bill Belichick.

Wally regarded, Colin, one of the best coaches in NFL history, if not the greatest. But, but since Tom Brady left, Patriots, a little wobbly, haven't been dominant. And during Monday Night Football, former New England cornerback Asante Samuel, his son plays for the Chargers. Asante Samuel took a little jab at his old coach Belichick. Look what he said. Belichick is starting to show you he is an average coach without Brady. Well, without Brady. just for the record. He was fired in Cleveland, and he was 3 and 11 in New England, wasn't he?

A year and a half of losing. And then Matt Castle famously led them to 10 and 6, but they missed the playoffs. But it's interesting. I broke it down. So the first year without Brady, they went 7 and 9. That was the COVID year. Remember Cam Newton? Last year, 10 and 7, Mack Jones was a quarterback. But they only beat two teams with a winning record. Tennessee without Derek Henry. And then the wind game against Buffalo or Mac Jones threw three passes.

They were a little fraudulent last year. Have you seen who they beat this year, Colin? Who? Mitch Trubisky, who's been benched, Jared Gough, without St. Brown or Swift, and Jacoby Bressett. Okay. And he was fired in Cleveland and had a losing record his first year and a half in New England. As great as we think he is. Take out Brady his whole career.

And you are left with a really smart guy who's an excellent defensive coach but doesn't get offense. Well, at the same time. So do we credit Josh McClure? Daniels for constantly pivoting. Remember, there's a team that went two tight ends with Gronk and Aaron Hernandez. They went slot with Welker and Edelman. They kind of created the slot position, if you will. And then they brought in Randy Moss and they'll go deep. Like, they've been flexible and changing. So is that a lot of Josh McDaniels or is that Belichick? Well, I think we have the Cleveland situation. Nobody's saying he's a disaster.

Bill made the Browns better. Right. Okay. He got Mack Castle to the playoffs. He got Mack Jones to the playoffs. not saying Bill's a terrible coach. We are saying there is evidence now with Mac, with Cam, with four quarterbacks, even with Drew Bledsoe, who was very talented, that when Tom's not there, he wins about half his games. And by the way, Andy Reed, conversely, without Mahomes and B&C quarterbacks, 165% of his games or 60% of his games. We could say Andy Reid made Mahomes. Okay, this is a guy at Texas Tech. I think you said he never went to a bowl game or Something like that. But quickly, on Belichick, I wonder, this irrational move of three possessions in, benching

your starter who you drafted in the first round last year and got you to the playoffs, benching him for Zappy. Is that going to mess with Mack Jones's head? What's his mindset this week? Do you think Mack Jones watching that New England crowd turn on him? Yep. You think he's, forgive and forget. He'll never forget that.

Mac Jones will never forget those fans turning on him. He'll never be all in. And by the way, he's not just blaming the fans because fans are fans. Part of that is he didn't like the way Belichick treated him. Definitely. This guy's a leader on the team, right? I mean, he's talking all summer. I don't, it's Wednesday.

I don't know who they're starting this weekend against the Jets. Mac Jones, you think? I said before, I would have kept Bailey Zappian and just said, hey, he didn't work against Chicago. Bailey Zappy to me is more effective running this offense from what my eyes tell me than Mac Jones. So we're the campaign buttons for Bailey Zappy? We already had him. We're bringing him back. Bringing him back.

Now, he was crappy so you could bench Zappy. But by and large, if you put him both up, it looks like he gets rid of the ball faster to the right people. Not saying he's great. I'm just saying one looks like a C. One looks like a C minus. That's what I see. Jets beating him Sunday? Oh, gosh, I'm excited.

All right, let's move on. Pittsburgh Steelers. They've been atrocious offensively this season. Growing pains as the team develops around rookie QB, Kenny Pickett. Mike Tomlin, he doesn't think it's time to make any drastic changes right now. You know, keep working. Keep working with continuity, it raises your floor. When you raise your floor and you minimize negativity,

you increase the potential for positivity. And so sometimes the changes that need to occur aren't significant. ones that just continuing to work and understand in terms of those opportunities. They lose this week to Philly. I speculated a couple weeks ago on my podcast. I think this team should think about a soft tank. Start trading a receiver. You know, T.J. Watt don't rush back.

You're not going to the playoffs. You're not beating the Bengals and the Ravens of this division, right? Yeah, yeah. So what drastic changes can they make other than kind of tank for a high draft? I don't think tanking's the wrong word, but I do believe the organization in Pittsburgh has a history of drafting wide receivers at an incredibly high level. And you're not letting go with George Pickens. That is your star. Then you start considering, consider for the right price.

Because you have a tight end you like. You have a running back you like. You have three receivers you like. That is a position where you're fairly stacked. and have a history of drafting it well. I think you can think about things. I think what you could do is, how about this? After the season, if you have made your mind up on Kenny Pickett, you don't see it.

You give that up, move up. There's got to be a team in the top 10 drafting that just needs a receiver. You give them a couple of picks, a receiver, and all of a sudden you have the fourth pick in the draft. I do think, now, I don't know if Kenny Pickett's going to work or not. I have no idea. How many interceptions did he throw Sunday? Well, again, young guys throw picks. I'm not, Joe Burrell threw picks.

He doesn't care about picks in four games gone. I don't care. Peyton Manning was brutal first year. I don't care about Josh Allen was brutal. Had more picks than TD's first year. I don't care about picks. Does he have a sense of confidence in the pocket? Is he getting better?

Does he see the feel? Watch his head. Is he going from first receiver, second receiver, third receiver. That's the stuff I'm looking for. Joe Burrow was throwing picks and making mistakes. But he was, there were moments with Josh and Burrow and Peyton. you were like, whoa, I haven't seen a woe moment with Kenny Pickett. I got to see a woe moment in the next seven, eight games.

You got to give me some special. Like Kyler Murray, first year, Justin Herbert, you see woe moments. We got our guy. I saw a couple of wo moments against Miami, the interceptions on the last two drives. More woes. What are you doing, dude? All right. Finally, Joe Burrow, your guy has quickly positioned himself one of the best young

QBs in the league. After watching how the Bengals offense has grown, coach Zach Taylor, thinks Burrow belongs in the same conversation as Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. I wonder where he got that take from, Colin. You just look at the style of systems. How they operate is how we are starting to operate. Absolutely. I'm not changing out our quarterback for anything. People can take that however they want.

We are happy we have Joe Burrow. Not one person in this building would swap him out. Did somebody suggest it? Zach Taylor, come on, dude. Burroughs dominating in spite of Zach Taylor. It was three weeks ago that Zach Taylor was running Joe Mixett. and in the line of scrimmage 25 times like a battering ram. Come on.

Now he's adjusted. Burrow coming out of shotgun flinging it around. I'll just point this out. The last two teams they beat had massive cornerback issues. The New Orleans Saints, no Lattimore, and the Atlanta Falcons, everybody. Who do they play this week? Oh, the Browns have great corners. Cleveland Browns have a guy named Dinsel Ward.

And Newsom's pretty good, too. Newsom's pretty good. Bengals, the world is going to be on the Bengals on, I think, Monday Night Football against Cleveland. I'm looking at the Browns there. I don't think I think... I know you love Burrow. Keep, continue to hike him up.

The audience goes and bets the Bengals. If I get the three and a half with Cleveland, who, who, who. At home and the dog pound? No, I think the side is Cleveland. Yes. That's the side. Don't know if they'll win, but it's the side. I trust Burrow late in the game over Jacoby Brissette.

But Cleveland, that will be a close football game. Stefanski and Zach Taylor. Two coaches. Well, now, come on, let's be more positive. Sorry to be negative. Yes, apologies. There's a positive show. how we roll here.

J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. I have a really good take, but I don't want to give it away now. I want to give it. Listen, I don't want to give it away. I got Nick right around the corner and Joel Klav.

You got to space these great takes out. You can't all jam them in there. It's not like, even with a soup, you do the garlic first. You do the, you know, there's stages to the soup. It's all throw everything in there at once. There's stages to this. Is it like when you meet a girl and you kind of slow play it? You don't want to show your full hand on the first date.

You save some material for the next one. Material? And the next one. Yeah. Is that how you? Back in my single days. I was going to say, I've been single in a long time. When you just rush in unloading everything?

None of us are single here. Is that what guys do? Single guys do? I don't think we have any single guys on the staff. I thought guys were like magicians. You get every trick for like 50 bucks and you see what they're act and then they're done. And the next night it's the same act. A horrible dating strategy.

No. I hope you're not advising any. David Copperfield, seen him twice, same act both times. He's got like 50 great minutes. That's how guys date. They give you 50 minutes of their best material. You go out with him again. She's like, I've heard all these jokes.

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It's the only cable show in America with no budget. He hates when I say that. He really. It's just a lie. I mean, it's just a lie, but that's fine. Go ahead. Good to see you, my friend. Good to see you.

Now, you have been more pro-Aren than I have been, but you've come to the side of he may be part of something. You've been right. Okay, thank you. Yeah, yeah. So seven-game stretch, kind of tough. This is the second time he has called out his coach, who was his guy, who's his buddy generationally, kind of same age. You have to admit, that's not the way to solve this issue, right?

Well, he's called out his coach, and this time also some of his teammates, and while he didn't name them, I'm sure they know who he's talking about. And in that same interview, he said, by the way, my quarterback coach says it was my highest graded game of. the year. It's so bizarre. It's just so objectively and obviously the wrong approach. So listen, I am not trying to compare myself to Aaron Rogers. I'm not Aaron Rogers. However, I've been in broadcasting for 15 years out of college, so the same length of his career. There was one, and I've been relatively successful, there is one stretch of my career that is without question the worst. My third year in Houston is the only time I worried I was going to get fired. The ratings of the radio show were in the tank. It was a really tough time for me

professionally that year. That year, if you were to check, how nice is Nick to coworkers? What's his general disposition? That's the nicest I've ever been. The best I've ever been because I'm like, oh boy, I need people to like me right now. Like, I'm not caring my weight. Like, let's make sure we're showing up to all the parties and doing all the good things. It's so weird to me that Aaron, when he is playing objectively, the worst football of his career, he is going the other direction and calling people out more than usual. It's just bad strategy from an otherwise pretty sharp guy, I think. Okay, so I am a believer that hiring coaches is really hard. I think Oklahoma had a miss.

The Jaguars Urban Meyer had a miss. Freddie Kitchens, Cleveland. It's okay. What's not okay is doubling down on it. And so there is no historic precedent for a quarterback being B plus for four years and then the worst player in the league, unless there's a drug use and injury. So let's get past that for a second. I think if they fired Hackett, if they lost the Jags, I think it inspires the team. I think he's waiting them down. What do you make of it? I said I thought it would have been justifiable to fire him after week two. Because in week one, he made the single most indefensible coaching decision I've ever seen at the NFL level, the 64-yard field goal.

And in week two, situationally, he was worse. And I knew they wouldn't fire him after week two, but if they did, it's new ownership, who didn't hire him, has gotten the most money of anybody in the world, essentially, they could say, you know what, it's a wrong guy. You know what I mean? Rip the Band-Aid off now. So, of course, I think if you know you're fighting,

if he's not going to be the coach next year, then I understand the argument as to just get it over with now. However, it could be a problem for you, my friend, be careful what you wish for. Because if they bring in a new coach and your guy Russell Wilson still stinks, I don't know who you're blaming next. And I heard you, I was listening to the open and you're like, no precedent. Four years of excellence than the worst in football.

But Colin, there is precedence for a player going from an A to an A minus to a B to a minus, which is what Russ's last four years have been, and then being bad. In fact, that is exactly what happened to Peyton Manning in Denver. He was A plus, A plus B plus F, and it was not because of some new injury. And so I just, I worry for you what's going to happen if they get rid of the coach and Russell Wilson is still terrible. Do I think he's the worst quarterback in the league? No. do I think he is no longer an above average quarterback? Yes, and I don't think coaching's going to fix that. Well, as long as I don't take Lincoln Riley from USC, I'm okay with a new country.

Okay. Oh, yeah. No problem. That one I won't be happy with. You know, you were talking about a work environment. I think you can solve a lot. You could work with somebody and like, listen, they're good, but maybe they're not good for a certain role. And you move them to a different apartment.

That's happened. I mean, you know, that happens all the time for all of us, right? Like, oh, I don't fit here. I fit there. I fit here. We're all specialists in life. But if somebody's toxic, you got to get him out of the building. Always, every industry. To me, Westbrook, it's nothing against him personally. But in the last couple years, L.A., his last stops, there's a toxicity with him. You can't solve it. You can solve a bench. You can solve substitution patterns. I think they made a massive

mistake not moving off him. And by the way, the West, it looks like Portland's okay. The Pelicans won without Zion and Brandon Ingram. What do you make of this? Colin, it's a grievous error they've made. A grievous error. You can say LeBron made them trade for him a year ago, even though LeBron couldn't get the coach he wanted hired, but he can make them trade for Russ fine.

Put that the feet of LeBron. And then they didn't move him at the deadline. There was that anonymous, you know, the anonymous sourcing of, you know, the bus family wants LeBron and AD to sleep in the bed they made or whatever the quote was like, that's ridiculous. This has no way to run a team, but fine, those guys were hurt, throw last year away. All summer we knew this was coming, and all summer they stood pat. And the argument, the only possible argument is that they believe because there are going to be certain teams that right now don't think they're going to tank,

but then are going to turn the ship in the other direction, that a better trade is going to come available than Buddy Heald and Miles Turner for Russ and the picks. I understand that. However, the response to that is twofold. First of all, if you end up having to just trade Russ for Turner and Healed, who you could have gotten six months ago, then this is a cataclysmic error by Rob Belinka. The season might be lost by then. And the second point is this.

Until you trade him, you do just have to send him home. There is, you can't, they are a non-functional offense. That's right. And he and Patrick Beverly is, you know, no great shakes on it. But he is the biggest part of it. Right now, Colin, this is an unbelievable stat. There are 11 players in the entire league that have taken at least three threes per game and are shooting less than 25% on them.

11 in the whole league. Four of them are on the Lakers. Four of them. So four of the 11 worst shooters in the league so far this year have in the Lakers. on the Lakers. Ross, Beverly, Nunn Walker. So there's no spacing.

It doesn't work. And if they end up just getting Turner and Healed, who they could have gotten six months ago, but when they make the trade, they're five and 12. And already, you know, odds on lottery team, it's just a grievous mistake

that everyone saw coming. Finally, Brady went in his podcast yesterday with Jim Gray and said, I'm all in. The retirement talk is over. Is that him positioning, leadership, positioning, or do you buy it, that that was the Giselle issue, and he's going to keep playing?

Oh, I think he's going to keep playing. I think he's playing past this year. I don't know where. He didn't want to play this year for Tampa. I think maybe he saw this coming. So, yeah, I think that he is going to keep playing. I would be very surprised if Brady doesn't keep playing. And by the way, as bad as the Bucks have looked,

and you know I'm no long-term Brady fan, there is a world, Colin, where they're the, you know, nine and eight, but the fourth seed, because they win the division. And the five seed is Daniel Jones and the Giants. And that Brady's path to another conference championship game is Daniel Jones in Tampa and then beating Kirk Cousins, like with the Vikings as the two. That could happen. I'm already emotionally preparing myself for it.

And I know you said finally, which I think means we're done, we're really going to, you're not going to ask me anything about my chiefs dismantling your beloved Jimmy G. How much more help does Jimmy G need? First team all pro running back. First team all pro, wide receiver. First team all pro tied in. First team all pro left tackle.

Best defense in football. Not enough? Does he need the Avengers? What does he need for you to finally get off Jimmy G? Are they still happy that Tray Lance isn't there? Or maybe did they look there? and say, ah, we need a quarterback who doesn't. I got one last fact for you, Colin, sorry, I hijacked your show.

Last 30 years in the NFL, there have been 28 instances of a quarterback, throwing a pick, losing a fumble, and getting safety in the same game. 28 times in 30 years. Two of them are Jimmy G. This month, buddy. I mean, it ain't great. It ain't great, my friend. We call that the Jimmy G trifecta.

He's patented it. That's funny. Nick Wright, first things first. It's right after our show. They have the best lead-in in the business. So things are looking up. That is true. You know what?

We have the best wardrobe situation and the best lead-in in the business. If we're not a success, it's totally on me. Talk to you later, buddy. All right, Nick Wright, first things first. He's got a podcast, subscribe. It's called What's Right with Nick Wright, new episodes three times a week. All right, that's funny. Listen, I've said before, the Niners don't have to worry about my homes until the Super Bowl.

They don't have to worry about Burrow. They don't have to worry about Allen. You know what Kansas City has to worry about with their secondary? Burrow and Allen. San Francisco's like, yeah, they're good. See ya. We don't have to see you again until February. That's why I didn't make a big deal out of it.

It's like, Kansas City's like, yeah, we beat him. We got coming off a loss to Buffalo who we're going to have to get through again. So, Car Shield. Oh, I already read that spot. these days every new potential hire can feel like a high stakes wager LinkedIn jobs number one in the country finding new employees post your job for free at linkton.com slash heard lincoln dot com slash heard terms and conditions apply Joel clatt is around the corner and uh a Colin right

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Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast,

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