The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 1 - Rodgers, MVP

Episode Date: January 13, 2022

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iHeartRadio app by searching Heard. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh, it is a Thursday, and we are jammed all sorts of great news out there live in Los Angeles. It's the herd, wherever you may be. And however, you may be listening. IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1, Greg CoSell in two hours today. We are jammed. Lots of stuff happening. Coaching interviews. Can anybody fix the Bears and the New York Giants? Joy Taylor in a beautiful dress this morning is joining me. Joy Howard. you. Thank you. I'm good. I'm looking forward to seeing which direction all of these teams go with

our coaching hires. So am I. It's getting interesting. It really is getting interesting. I want to start with something I hear all the time. So I hear a lot from you the consumer. And I've said for years, Joy is my witness. You drive this show. It's why I talk 70% NFL. Because of the last 100 TV shows last year, rated. 91 were NFL. Let the other shows talk NBA and baseball. I talk NFL. This is what you like. I'm a grocery store. Every time you go, you get bananas, peanut butter, milk, eggs, bread, and that's what I give you. That's what you show me you like. You drive the show. And I hear you saying a lot, I do not trust the media. I hear that a lot. I do not trust. the media. I hear you. But can I one time, just one time, be critical of the fans? Just once.

This will be it. You lack self-awareness. You say you don't trust the media, but if you're a conservative, you watch Fox News every night and you don't trust MSNBC. And liberals watch MSNBC and don't trust Fox have more self-awareness. You trust the media that you, you agree with. And I'll start my rant there and I'll come back to that. So the MVP race, like everything in America, weather becomes political. Colin, why do you talk politics? Because it's everywhere. You can't have a conversation everywhere. Vaccines become political. Everything's political. So the MVP race, Aaron Rogers, is going to run away with it. And if not, oh boy, the media you trust is going to frame it as certain ones.

So it's interesting. I said, I was thinking about this this morning. There's an old NFL belief. This is a long-held saying. Wins are not a quarterback stat. I mean, Justin Herbert, he's great. He didn't win enough. They always say wins are not a quarterback stat.

You can't count wins just as a quarterback stat. Now, I think quarterbacks and wins go hand in hand a lot, but let's start with that because that's a long-held belief. So for the MVP race, this morning I compiled seven to eight categories that I think are the most important stats for a quarterback. Passing yards. You know, they throw the ball. I want you, what are your total passing yards? Passing touchdowns.

It's all about scoring the most points. Completions. You got to be accurate here. I want your total completions. Your completion percentage. I'm not saying you have to throw the most. it does matter that you're accurate. So I'm not going to reward somebody who throws a zillion times and punish somebody who's got a more balanced offense.

So completion percentage matters. Yards per attempt. I'm not giving the MVP to a dink dunk guy. Big pass plays. That's a big one to me. That's passes over 20 yards. That's a home run hitter. Can you hit for power in baseball?

It kind of matters to be. Can you throw for power in football? Tua doesn't have a lot of big pass plays. Either is Mack Jones. And then passer rating. You know, you put all these things together. So let's, to me, the MVP race, it can't just start with wins. I mean, Brady's got 13, Aaron's got 13, but they play in kind of lousy divisions.

Joe Burrow has 10, but plays in a way better division. So to me, 10 wins in Joe Burroughs division is more impressive than Aaron or Tom win in 13 in their crappy division. So take the wins thing out of it. All those guys, Burrow, Brady, and Aaron all won their division. Burrell won a much tougher division with a lousier roster. To me, that's as impressive as winning two or three more games. So who had all these tests?

So passing yards total. Who had that one? Well, that was Brady. All right, all right. Total passing yards. Hey, who got the ball in the end zone most? That was Brady, too. Okay, total completions.

Let's go total completion. That was Brady, too. All right, all right. What if a quarterback threw less? Completion percentage. Burrow? Playing the Steelers defense twice? And the Ravens defense twice?

And the Brown's defense twice? With his crappy offensive line? All right. Yards per attempt. That's Burrow too. All right. Anybody can, I want to know total big play. I know Burrow was going to win this next one.

that's that's pretty that's pretty two all right did Aaron win passer rating did Aaron win passer rating congratulations he won passer rating well he he he threw fewer picks oh good hell folks we don't give the NBA MVP to the fewest turnovers Steph Curry was a unanimous MVP he turned the ball over a lot why because when you have the ball in your hand you turning over. You gave Westbrook one. He's like a turnover machine. We don't, we don't take away or give MVP because a fewest picks or fewest turnovers. You're going to throw picks if you throw the damn ball down the field. And I don't, don't get me wrong. Aaron doesn't throw a lot of picks. But when I hear Aaron has to win MVP or it was about, you know what, shot in the arm,

it's a bunch of nonsense. You could certainly give it to Aaron. I think I would give it to Burrow. Brady has an absolute argument. I would give it to Burrow because I think he's done more with less. He has the worst offensive line in the playoffs. He's got the worst roster in the playoffs. Ariens won a Super Bowl.

Matt Lafleur, we know, is great. We think Zach Taylor is good, but he was lousy before Burrow. I would give it to Burrow by an inch over Aaron or Tom. but just be careful the media you trust oh i always hear about that we don't trust the media no you do you just trust the ones you agree with so if aaron doesn't win i'll just be checking back on how that's handled by the media you trust or don't okay russell westbrook last night couldn't shoot Lakers lost. And I suppose I could spend the next, you know, five minutes ripping Westbrook.

I will not. I have strangely become the Westbrook defender. Russell Westbrook has never been a great shooter. He's had a really, really bad January. So he's a bad shooter in a slump, which is really bad. But I'm not going to spend time ripping Westbrook. As I said before, when you brought him here, hustle, passion, minutes production. he's given you every bit, every bit of that.

He can't shoot, nor does he make everybody better. But he gives you production. He's exactly what I said he would be. You're the ones that voted him MVP. I didn't. I said it was ridiculous. You thought he was an MVP. But it's interesting.

I'm thinking about this morning about one of the reasons that Tom Brady is the goat is that we argued about it four and five years ago. But there's no question that Brady's great. in the last four years in the 40s has made us go, bruh, he's the guy. You can't bring anybody else up. You can't bring Farmanning. The fact that Brady is this good at the end of his career is without question a huge bonus for Tom.

Yeah, the Super Bowls matter too. But we've got to be honest. He's arguably the MVP at 44. Big Ben's 38, 39. He was shot two years ago. Fav was shot at like 38. Tom's MVP level at 44. So you think about the L.A. experience in this Michael Jordan LeBron thing.

So the L.A. experience, LeBron's career has been very similar. Everywhere he goes, Miami, Cleveland Lakers. He wins a title in year two, and then the team kind of gets weird, falls apart and old. So his first year in L.A., he inherits a bunch of crud, young players that can't play, they get rid of almost all of them, they're bad. year two pandemic hits he wins a title with AD year three AD comes in post-championship out of shape Lakers finished seventh and this year in year four the team's older 80s heard again Westbrook's a weird fit and they're eighth and you think to yourself well this LA thing is not going well for

LeBron loves LA has movies production business is amazing his real estate business is great he's got a title and his family loves it. Does everybody realize that if we're going to give Brady the credit for being the goat and a chunk of that is, wow, he's better in his 40s than he was at 38? LeBron James right now is number two in the NBA in scoring among the NBA leaders in minutes and is a top three for MVP candidate. Michael Jordan at the end couldn't jump. Go back to D.C.

He limped around in D.C. Kobe's last three years, he had 60th his final night, but the teams were lousy. Shack was broken down. So was Larry Bird. Magic retired early. Akeem ended up a Raptor. Patrick Ewing ended up near Disney World. Every, no exception.

All the NBA greats. Limp, fall apart, irrelevant. bad teams look silly in a New Jersey. Here's LeBron. So if you're going to give Tom Brady the, okay, it matters, right? Like a life well spent. It does matter if you're falling apart at 58 because you smoke cigarettes, drank too much, and never worked out.

And if your neighbor is 68 and looks fantastic, he's got the silver hair, he's in shape, he doesn't smoke and casually drinks and looks better, it counts on the life. The final chapter, slam dunk. You look at NBA stars final chapter. It's awful. Jordan couldn't make the playoffs in the awful Eastern Conference. LeBron's second in scoring, top five in MVP.

The rest of its team is a tire fire. And last night, he's going out again. What is it, year 18? So I look at this L.A. experiment, and a lot of people are like, whoo, this isn't working. loves L.A., got a title, still fantastic, business is amazing, family loves it. This separates him. For those who are LeBron over MJ people, you've got to count the final chapters.

Have to. And his crushes MJ. All right, we got so much stuff today. The Jim Harbaugh thing is, I am completely prepared. two sources both are telling me the exact opposite. One of them is he's staying at Michigan, one he's going, meaning I don't have any idea. I have no idea what Jim Harbaugh is doing, and I'm just going to tell you right now. Can't wait to watch it. Peter King this hour as well.

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So I have a topic. Over the course of a day, I come into a show with about seven topics. The best shows I ever have are when I have like three great topics and I can keep rinse and repeating them. They're like controversial or something. I got about seven on the average show. This next topic I'm going to talk about is my favorite topic of the day. It's my favorite topic of the day. It's a thought balloon.

It doesn't mean it's right, but it's something that I'm into. But I can't run it right now. Because I got Peter King coming on and he's got some interesting stuff and I got interesting stuff. But I like this so much. Seven, eight minutes. I like it so much. Not that I'm teasing you. I'm not teasing you because I could run it here.

But I'm going to get to Joy first. And that's not saying Joy's update won't be amazing. But there are days in which I have a topic that I just love. I just want to do it. But I want to put it in the right spot and I don't want to rush through it and then get into Peter King and rush through it and go into Joy. So I'm going to go Joy Taylor first with the very capable Joy Taylor with the news. Fascinating her.

Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. You know how it in some days. You listen to my prep. Yes. And there are subjects that I just think they're fascinating because nobody else is going to talk about it. Well, you are a big theorizer. I am.

I don't know if that's a word. Yeah. You are a maker of theories. Yeah. And so sometimes they're wrong and sometimes they're right. Sometimes they're very right. So the Giants are looking to rebuild. They're searching for a GM and a new head coach.

This was their fifth straight losing season with a record of four and 13. And owner John Mara said it's the most embarrassed he's been during his time with the team. Honestly, I would have to say yes. Yes, it is. I kept thinking during the season that we had hit rock bottom and that each week it got a little worse. We just got to a point where I thought we had dug ourselves a hole so deep that I didn't see a clear path to getting out of it unless we completely blew it up and started all over again with a new general manager and a new head coach. Now, that's going to be a process that we're going to have to earn their trust again.

And as I said, that's not going to happen overnight. I like John Mara, so I feel bad for him. I don't like all owners. There's lots of owners in pro sports I do not like. I don't think they're nice people. I think they've trampled people in their life to get, I think the Mara family, from what I know, when I was. in the Northeast and went to a Giants game or it was at a function. I always like the Mara family.

And I think they're really smart and really patient. The accounting firm of the NFL, even when they're making money, they're boring. But there is something culturally off here. Three straight coaches, horrific hires, weird general manager. So the good news is that here's the good news to this job, Joy. I always said, you don't want to replace Howard Stern or Belichick. They are so bad. Right.

It's a great entry point because they have about six players I love. They have a corner I love, a receiver I love, a left tackle I love. They got a couple defensive linemen. So they're not bereft of talent. But the entry point here is pretty good. Expectations are low. If you were a coaching got to eight and eight by year two, it's a massive success. It's a ticker tape parade.

So this is not, all is not lost. if I was a candidate, you don't want to replace Belichick. You don't want to go, you know, just look around the league. Do you want to replace a GM that like replacing Bill Pollian was hard because he and Peyton Manning, all they did was create wins and division titles. No, you're coming in at Rock Bottom. So if you're at the bare minimum functional, you'll be in a good spot.

Gettelman's record as the GM of the Giants was 19 and 46. So not great. But to your point, there is something institutionally wrong with the Giants. They've had five head coaches since their last Super Bowl run. Tom Coughlin, then Ben McAdoo, Steve Spagnolo, Pat Schumer, and Joe Judge.

And, I mean, I have the experience of being a fan of two teams, having grown up in Pittsburgh and being a fan of the Dolphins. Perfect contrast there. The Steelers never fire coaches are always steady, always competitive. The Dolphins go through a new coach every three years. So there's something wrong.

institutionally with the giant. So whatever higher, whatever direction they choose to go in, it's time to look internally first. Why are we constantly going through coaches? Why is this, do we have all of this turnover? When you have turnover like that in your organization or your company, it's not always the people. Everybody is not incompetence. There's something else that's happening there. Either you're moving on too quickly, you're not putting the right GM coach combination in there, whatever it is. At this point, it can't always be the players and it can't always be the coaches. That's right. That's right. When you're going through people like personnel group and it's not just the head coaches either. Like there's an entire staff of

coaches that you're letting go. So you're at, at the hundreds of people that you've let go. It's time to figure out what the problem is at the core. So the Steelers are heading to Kansas City, big underdogs against the chiefs. And Ben Rathesberger's not letting his team's long odds take the fun out of the postseason. I would assume is the group you understand that, you know, We probably aren't supposed to be here. We're probably not a very good football team. We're the out of 14 teams, I think, are in. We're probably number 14.

Probably 20-point underdogs, and we're going to the number one team that's, I know they're not the number one team, but they're the number one team that's won the AFC the last two years, arguably the best team in football. We don't have a chance. So let's just go in and play and have fun. I know some people were kind of roasting him for this, but I thought it was actually kind of funny. I think it's funny. Yeah.

I mean, he's not being serious. He's being very coy. Yes. And it's not that bad, Ben. You're only 12 and a half point favorite. I mean, underdogs. I'll tell you right. I'll tell you right now.

I like Steelers in the points. I don't know if they win the game, but. Oh, I mean, 12.5 points in a playoff game is a lot. Mike Tomlin is the best underdog coach last 10 years in the NFL. I'm taking Mike. And by the way, what Ben is saying at the podium is what Mike is saying in the meeting rooms. Hey, we got no chance to win this thing. Right.

I mean, they're playing with House money for sure. All of the pressures on the chiefs. You can't give it. bounce in the first round of the Steelers if you're the Chiefs. Now, to Ben's point, they probably aren't supposed to be there. A lot of things had to fall into place to get them in. Cleveland's supposed to be here. Pittsburgh's not. Who's here? Luck favors the prepared. That's right. I don't give a rip. Pittsburgh's here. They're in. Period. No, I didn't have a problem with them doing this. And look, they lost the Chiefs 3610

in week 16 of the season. So it's not like they don't have recent experience getting blown out by them. but this is what it is. Obviously, it could be Ben's last game in the NFL, so he's going to go and enjoying and being very present in the moment. But then you're not $20.00. It's 12 and a half, you know? It's not that bad.

So this is expected to be Jimmy Garapolo's final season with the 49ers, although things could get interesting depending on how the postseason goes. Yeah. Now, if he gets rolled by the Cowboys, they're off to Traylands. Right. If he beats the Cowboys and then he goes, and the next week he wins again,

Then at least you have to have several meetings over them. Yeah, I have some conversations. Well, Jimmy G admitted that the uncertainty of his future has been on his mind all year. It's always in the back of your mind. It has been in mind, you know, really this whole season. Just I knew what type of season it was, knew everything that was going on, you know, behind the scenes and whatnot. So it was a little different. But, you know, at the same time, it's like you're saying, you got to tow that line because you don't want to get too emotional in those moments.

And you just got to go play football when it comes down to it. But it, you know, the human side definitely comes into play. You feel it for a little bit after the game. And I think 24 hours after that, you've got to move on quickly. And, you know, we've done that pretty well. You know, my wife always says Aaron Rogers is totally unlikable. And I think I don't, I find Aaron unlikable, complex unlikable. Jimmy G is so likable.

He's just acknowledging to you, this is really hard. Like, I know I'm not the future. I'm winning games. I find that incredibly vulnerable and incredibly likable. He is so easy for me to, I don't know why you're all against him. I don't either. He's not perfect. He obviously has his moments where you're like, why would you throw that ball?

But in clutch moments, I've seen it four times this year. You always feel like you've got a chance with him. People forget when San Francisco lost a Green Bay because Aaron came back and won. If I recall, Jimmy had a great drive right before that. So even a game he lost in the end, he played great. But for him to come out and just say, like, this is really hard. The whole year I know I'm not the guy. I think he's had a great attitude about it the entire year.

By the way, all you guys that bag on Jimmy Garoppolo, Denver, would you take that guy? I would. Of course. He's a good dude. I think any team that's in a bridge situation, I would love him. You would love Jimmy G. I think he's obviously also has limitations physically. He's very unreliable physically.

Yes. It's a huge part of why Tray Lance is there. It's not necessarily his talent. But he's had a nice season and I've got a lot of respect for Jimmy G. That, like you said, that's a very vulnerable thing to come out and say. It's hard to admit. Like, you know that your replacement is in-house. You're essentially helping bring them up to take your position.

But overall, I think part of the reason why Jimmy has had a good attitude about it is because if you go out there and play well, you're going to get another opportunity. And he will. He's going to have a lot of opportunities once the season's over. Now, he's in the fourth year of a five-year, $137 million deal that runs through 2022. So he'll be an unrestricted free agent in 2023. and has a cap hit of $27 million in 2022. So there's no guaranteed money remaining on his deal.

But again, if you're a team that doesn't have a quarterback, what is $27 million? Oh, you're right. For Jimmy G. So we know they're moving on to Tray Lance. Could get interesting in the postseason, but they are three-point underdogs, according to Fox Bet, against the Cowboys,

which will be a great game. Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. Okay, so I said to start the show. People always say they don't trust the media. And my argument is, you just don't trust the media you don't agree with.

Fox News viewers don't trust MSNBC. MSNBC viewers don't trust Fox News. You believe in the media if they tell you what you want to hear. And so if Aaron Rogers doesn't win the MVP, the crazy Vax crowd, anti-Vax crowd, is going to blame the media. And my takeaway is, if you, this is the tightest MVP race in my memory. vote Joe Burrow in. Initially, I thought it was Aaron Rogers because I didn't do my homework. Everybody was saying it was Aaron Rogers and I was like, okay, it's Aaron Rogers. Then I went diving deep and I'm like, no, it's Joe Burrow. But I want to bring in Peter King for this.

So I think the MVP race is fascinating. So Peter, I did this this morning, little thought balloon. I said, I don't count fewest interceptions as a huge stat because it's in the NBA. Steph Curry and Russell Westbrook are turnover machines. But that's because they have the ball in their hands. We don't give MVP's because you don't make mistakes. We give MVP's for big plays, production, dominating, value. So I don't love a quarterback with 30 mistakes, but Brett Fav is a legend and through picks all day. So was Namath. So did Elway. So I not, now Aaron has the few as picks. I get that. But I put up Peter, I'm going to show, I don't know if you can see this, but I'm going to put up the most important stats to me, passing yards, passing touchdowns,

completions, completion percentage, yards per attempt, big place passer rating. It's dominated by Brady and Burrow. So if Aaron doesn't win, I know there's going to be a group of media that say, oh, the vaccine. And I'm like, this is the, Peter, this is a coin flip to me. And I would go Burrow because he's doing more with less than a tougher division. Your thoughts on this entire MVP race? Well, I think it's really a fascinating MVP race.

But Colin, in my column on Monday in football morning and I, America. I had 36 people, 10 former players, 26 members of the media. I had 36 people vote for the MVP. And I said, you know, obviously vote for wherever you want, vote for all the awards. 32 for Rogers, two for Brady, two for Burrow. Don't shoot the messenger. I asked, I didn't influence anybody. And look, the bottom line is, I've been voting for the MVP for the MVP for the AP for a long time, probably 30 years. And the problem, the biggest problem is, you can only vote for one person. I mean, it's utterly preposterous to think that, you know, that if you vote, like, if you vote for Aaron Rogers, you know, most people will think,

geez, how could you vote for Roger? Because I only have one vote. That's how, you know, oh, how do you vote for Brady over Burrow? I agree. At the end, it was a three horse race. I love Joe borough. And, and I, listen, whoever votes for any of those three people, I totally accept. Me too. And I feel bad for Jonathan Taylor and Cooper Cup for this reason. Because honestly, if you asked Sean McVeigh right now, you got a game this weekend, you're playing the Arizona Cardinals, I'm going to knock out of your lineup. It's either going to be Cooper Cup or Matthew Stafford. Who would you rather have me knock out? You think he's going to say Matthew Stafford, I don't think so. And that's unfortunate. That doesn't mean that Matthew Stafford is better at

his job than Cooper Cup is at his job. It's just that the quarterback in the NFL is so incredibly valuable. But you bring up Burrow, I totally agree that Burrow has lifted a dormant franchise in the span of one year. And he did it coming off a huge knee injury. So I'm I applaud Burrow. If you vote for Burrow, good for you. And Brady, he had one of the best years, one of the best two or three years of his career, through for more yards than he ever has. I think Brady's a great choice. There is something about Aaron Rogers, though, and you can say whatever you want about, you know, about, oh, don't turn it over and all that stuff. I mean, this is a guy who, after the first game of this year, turned it over twice in the game.

in 15 games. Twice in 15 games. Matthew Stafford, I believe, turned it over at least to win his last five games. So that counts for something. A 37 to two touchdown to interception ratio after the first game of the season counts for something. It just does. So again, I think there are three great candidates. Any you vote for? I applaud you. Okay. So we were saying this, that people tend to have confirmation bias. So Derek Carr was not a first round pick and Jimmy Garoppolo was not a first round pick. In fact, he was a backup for years. So the minute they have a bad game or a stretch, they're no good. But we defend first round high draft quarterbacks forever because the way they entered the league. So I would argue in the last month that Jimmy Garoppolo and Derek Carr

have been the best fourth quarter last drive quarterbacks in the league. They've been absolutely unda. Derek Carr's been incredible. On the road, Darren Walter's not there, interim coach, but their second round picks, they entered the league without fanfare, they went to smaller college programs, so we don't, our initial bias is, well, I never really loved them. People didn't love them. So I look at Jimmy Garapolo today. His career, with two different teams, his career numbers are 68% completion percentage, 98-99 passer rating, two times as many touchdowns as pick, a great, great two-minute drill quarterback.

If he beats Dallas and he wins one more playoff game, what do you do if you're the Niners with Jimmy Garoppolo? What do you do with him? Well, those are two gigantic ifs, aren't they? It means that you're winning two road games against teams that surely Vegas, and you don't just say Vegas anymore, you say everywhere, would like significantly better than you. Now, I happen to like the 49ers a lot this weekend.

But Colin, I think that you have to look at the full record and the full resume of Jimmy Garapolo in his entire career in San Francisco. You can't change your mind on Jimmy Garapolo based on the most recent two or three games. Recency bias is a killer because fans have recency bias. And I'm not sure there's anybody who in this offseason would have said. said, yeah, the 49. Most people didn't think the 49th should keep Garapolo this year. Yeah, that's right. That's right.

You know, they thought they should try to get a one or a two for them. They couldn't get a one. They tried and they couldn't get a one. And next year, I think there's a good chance they'll be able to get a one for them, like a mid-round one from somebody. Who would that be? I don't know. But the quarterback situation this offseason is going to be absolutely, totally

fascinating, especially if the Seahawks stick to their guns and refuse to trade Russell Wilson, and if Aaron Rogers makes nice and makes up with the Packers and says, I want to stay, those would be huge developments because then Jimmy Garapolo automatically, categorically, is worth a one. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Finally, you know, they always say in the radio business, you don't want to follow, you know, like Howard Stern. You want to follow a bad morning show so you can come in and even if you're moderately successful, you look very successful.

And so I know everybody hates the Giants job, but my takeaway is this is rock bottom. This is as bad as it can be. Isn't there an argument to me made? If I was a general manager, I'm going to get more power. I'm going to get higher the coach. I've got about five good players on the roster. I can kind of start over. I do have a left tackle.

I do have a defensive line on a top corner, some decent receivers. Is it a bad job to you? Because not all job openings, Peter, as you know, are equal. I mean, Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville is a nice quarterback to start with. Daniel Jones isn't. So what do you make of the Giants job holistically? I mean, I don't think it's a good job at all. Either general manager or coach.

Now, it could be turned into one. But the New York Giants right now don't have nearly enough talent to win. We all have seen that for the last few years. They're in bad shape, talent-wise. They have overpaid the Adori Jackson's of the world to the point now that they are in the fifth worst cap shape of any team entering next year. They have 60% of their cap next year goes to seven players,

none of whom. The best of those seven really is Kenny Ghaladay. But there is not a single franchise. player among all those guys and they have no idea who their quarterback is going to be going forward. Colin, that is a landmine job. You can fix it. But if I were a general manager and I was walking into an interview with Steve Tisch and John Mara right now, the first thing out of my mouth would be, listen, I want to be totally honest with you. And you should be totally honest with your fans. We need to take two years to get this.

team right cap-wise and to start building talent. We're not winning for the next two years. It is not happening. They have got to get it straight. Dave Gettleman left this team a horrible cap situation. And look, I mean, you know, the guy had some good moments in his scouting and GM career. His last three years were downright horrible. Yeah. Good stuff. Peter King, NBCSports.com. Football Morning in America. Good topics. Good, good topics. All right, Peter.

Thank you. Okay, Kyle. All right, I'm going to get to this topic. Now, now, because I went a little long, I don't even know if I have time to give this topic what it deserves. I'm not trying to be a jerk here. I like this topic a lot. I really do.

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sponsored by credible great rates with none of the bull. So fans always say stuff like you sports guys never admit when you're wrong. Yeah, except for I actually have a segment every Monday for 10 minutes. It's the highest-rated segment in Sports Talk Radio in America, meaning it's my highest-readed sports talk segment,

and it's called Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. So I admit it every week. I'd like to see fans line up occasionally and admit they're wrong. So I'm going to admit another wrong right here, because I don't care. If I can hit like 75 out of 100, I'm good. So when Joe Judge was hired by the New York Giants, he was great at the press conference.

He was strong and focused and there was no stuttering. He was unbelievable at the press conference. And I said, he's saying the right stuff. I never heard of him. I mean, I'd seen his name before, but didn't know anything about him. But I'm like, boy, he was great at the press conference. And I've said before, Mike Tomlin, no losing seasons. Great at the podium.

Sean McVeigh, as good as anybody ever at the podium. Kyle Shanahan, almost all the good coaches. Arians, no BS. Andy Reid's funny at the podium. Sean Payton's great at the podium. But I ripped Nick Siriani because he was a goofball at his opening press conference. And I ripped Dan Campbell at his opening press conference. He was talking about eating kneecaps.

And they got worse. By the way, Siriani stopped holding him. Campbell kept talking and they get worse every week. But in the end, I've never seen a team with less talent play as hard as the lion players did for Dan Campbell. And Nick Seriani would at least get an honorable mention vote for coach of the year. Philadelphia plays their arsoff, and they're in a rebuild. Sireonis be great, and he was terrible at the podium. Joe Judge was fantastic, and he was a disaster.

So what does it mean? It means whatever you are, just be authentic. And whereas Joe Judge sold himself well, I talked to somebody on the giant staff in the last week. That wasn't now he coached. He sold himself at the podium well. That wasn't how he coached. And Siriani and Dan Campbell are bad at the podium, a lot.

But that's who they are, and the players are okay with it. Because the players think they're authentic. They believe in them. And the players think that Siriani and Dan Campbell care about them. And that's what players want. Do you care about me? It matters. Does our boss care about us?

Are they rooting for us? Do they have something beyond their own self-interest in mind? and giant players probably didn't feel that. And Philadelphia players do. I think Miami players do. That's why I didn't like the firing of Brian Flores. But I said, and I've said this multiple times, all of us have a bias. I do.

My bias is, of many biases I probably have, we all have a bias. We want our thoughts to be right, right? We all have confirmation bias. We all want to be right and smart. and most of us can pivot off when we're not. Some people can't. But I tend to be verbally biased that if you're not good verbally, I kind of write you off. If you can't figure out a six-minute press conference and you're babbling and saying dumb crap,

I think you're kind of an idiot. But the truth is, if you're not great speaking, you can still be a great coach. Not everybody can be Mike Tomlin. Hey, Gruden was great at the podium. Tomlin's great at the podium. is great at the podium. Joe Judge was too. Belichick's awful. But that's kind of who he is. It's authentic to who Bill is. He's probably pretty short and impatient and snarky a lot of the times with people he'd like to dismiss, mostly us. So there you go. Now, I'm not going to give you,

I only have a minute left now. I'm not going to give you the greatest topic of the day. I'm going to do that at the top of the hour. I'm very excited about it. Now, I built it up so much. You're going to think, oh, it's just a big bowl of nothing. You're not even going to be impressed by it. I shouldn't have just low-keyed it and low-sold it, and you'd think it's a really interesting topic. But I'm going to throw something out at you at the top of the hour, and it sounds absolutely ridiculous.

But I'm going to give you three or four things that also sounded ridiculous, and they're all now changing America. They sounded outrageous. They sounded ridiculous. If I would have said them before they happened, you would have said I lack credibility. I'm a hack, clickbait. And they were not only true. They've been true over and over and over, and now they're changing America.

That's why I say, be very careful jumping on social media and telling this guy's idea stupid. A lot of those stupid ideas now run the country. We had a reality TV star with 400 lawsuits win the presidency. When you suggested that person could be president, a lot of people wrote him off. A lot of people wrote off that guy. Reality TV star, 400 lawsuits, infidelity, president. Hour 2 next. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite.

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