The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Sam Darnold is winning, College football playoffs are fine

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

Colin reacts to the weekend of NFL action, starting with Sam Darnold's big performance to keep the Vikings in the win column, and Jayden Daniels with a big time touchdown to lift the Commanders over the Eagles. College football fans have issues with the playoffs but Colin defends it.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What a weekend of football started Friday. It'll be done tonight with the Packers Hammer and the Saints. that's going to happen live in Los Angeles. It's the herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. J. Mack, one hour from now where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. Okay, the college football fans are all freaking out. Don't overreact.

We'll get to that in about a half hour. It's all good. Next week's neutral sites. Games are going to be great. But, you know, years ago, as I told New York, Zach Wilson and Daniel Jones, we're not going to work. Before that, I told him Sam, Donald was going to work.

And sometimes J. Mack, it takes a while to be right. So there's an old saying, and it's one of my favorites, outline your life in pencil, not pen, things change. Opportunities arise. Don't be rigid. Keep your eyes open. And I know Sam Darnold was supposed to be like a one-year thing, but he is so good, with Justin Jefferson. He is so clutch in the fourth quarter. This is no longer just a good story.

This is an excellent team, and he is an excellent quarterback. This isn't the 27 Vikings, remember that? Precirk Cousins, Case Keenham, 13 wins. Case had 22 touchdown. Sam's got 32 and counting, and he's eight and one in one score games. He has just been so good. And quarterbacks are either trucks where they're pulling the team or their trailers where they're being pulled pulled. Sam's a truck. He's pulling this team. They lost their excellent left tackle. One of the best in the game. Maybe the best in the game. They lost him. Sam's like, we good, eight and no without him. That fourth quarter game running drive encapsulates all of Sam Darnel. The athletic ability, the toughness, making big throws and big moments.

There is no denying. He is helping pull this team. I'm not denying the receiving course good. Kevin O'Connell's an amazing. They call him the tall Sean McVeigh. But this is not the Case Keenham team. This is not just a guy that comes in and we all kind of fall in love with the story.

Vegas had these guys at six wins. That's what Vegas had them at. Six wins. This is not a great roster. Detroit, when healthy, great roster. Philadelphia, great roster. Buffalo, really, really good roster. Baltimore, excellent roster.

This roster is pretty good. But Donald's toughness, his coachability, his playmaking, that last drive, man, that's something else. And again, lost their left tackle, wasn't perfect. This team could still be the number one seed. Number one seed. And I know you drafted J.J. McCarthy. I get it.

And I know you brought in Daniel Jones, understood. But to me, you got a franchise tag him at minimum. You can't let him go. What if he ends up somewhere along the way and comes back to beat you? And maybe this is the best Sam could ever be. And I'm not going to deny that Justin Jefferson, there's one in the league. And Kevin O'Connell is an excellent young coach. And Minnesota's always been a pretty well-run franchise.

I'm not denying that. But outline your life in pencil. Plans change. Opportunities arise. Employees are better than you think. And I'm not saying it's just Sam. This offense got real players, but they lost their left tackle. I've seen other quarterbacks, rhymes with Brock Purdy,

lose a left tackler or a running back, and shrink. Not slinging Sammy Darnold. Another win, still a number one seat is viable, and here's the coach after. There wasn't really one guy, and I know I'm not speaking for myself. I thought we were going to go down and we were going to get a touchdown.

And I think the level of confidence that that group has in their quarterback and the level of confidence the quarterback has in the 10 guys in the huddle is significant. And that's how you're able to go do that in that moment. On the road at this place, you know, you can't hear yourself think. It's a pretty fantastic, you know,

performance in that moment by, you know, not just our quarterback, but all 11 of those guys out there. Slinging Sammy Darnold, it took a while, but he's special. So I don't want to overreact, you know, Mondays off a crazy football weekend, it becomes overreaction Monday. I don't want to overreact to the Eagles losing to Washington. Okay, Jalen Hertz, very early, got a concussion. It's not the same team.

It's a great roster, but it is a quarterback league. And I'm not going to overreact because Jaden Daniels as a rookie, through five touchdown passes. The bigger story is why the NFL is king, because you get the right coach and the right rookie quarterback, you draft the right guy, and you can go from an NFL

embarrassment for over a decade to the playoffs in three months. And that's what you're seeing. Jaden Daniels does not have a great roster. He's got one big time weapon. But you can see some Lamar Jackson, you can see the poise, you could see 10 to 15 years of playoffs. I mean,

I grew up, and they had a different name, but this was a great franchise. I've said before that the Washington football franchise reminds me of the Golden State Warriors. I grew up in the 70s, and Washington, the football team, and Golden State, the basketball

team, had legendary players, and you could argue they had the best fan bases. But mismanagement or bad ownership, and the Warriors just sort of regress into irrelevant, even on the West Coast, and then it all turns around with Steph Curry. In Washington, the George Allen, Washington

team, 1972 Super Bowl. This Joe Gibbs, I mean, this was for a long time. This was tough and physical and the hogs. And then Dan Snyder, and as we always say on this show, ownership, bad teams all have one thing in common. And it's not a bad coach, and it's not a bad quarterback. Cincinnati, I think, has a good coach and a great quarterback. It's usually upstairs.

But all you need is the right coach and the right quarterback. and finally they got a bad owner out and a great owner in, and you're looking at playoffs. That final drive, what was great about that, not just the three-fourth quarter touchdowns by Jaden Daniels. He threw a pick on the previous drive. So what, unfazed, cut it loose, didn't care. Very Andrew Luck, very short memory.

And this rookie quarterback class, by the way, we may have five for five. I watch Pennix this weekend. That dude's good. So obviously the Jalen Hurts concussion, can change the outcome. But here's what's amazing about this kid. And I've said this before,

the difference between the haves and the have-nots at quarterbacks. When are you good? Okay, when are you good? Do you lose a left tackle? Sam Darnold, you go eight and no. It can't just be when everything's great. When are you good? This kid has a 106 passer rating while trailing.

That's like goat stuff. Okay, that's Mahomes early. Mahomes was better trailing. You could never tell if Mahomes was leading or trailing. You could never tell. A lot of quarterbacks in this league with protection. They're leading. They all look great thrown on second two.

Jaden Daniels has a good old line. It's better. They got Cliff Kingsbury and the offensive staff have done a nice job. It's a better O line, top seven or eight. It's not Detroit. It's not Philly. It's probably not Atlanta, but it's good. But he's got a great passer rating trailing.

and a hundred and fifteen passer rating in the fourth quarter. That is unheard of for a rookie. Those numbers, this is not September. We're not early October. We're now late December. Like, that's who the kid is. And this is probably the worst roster he plays with, at least while he's on his rookie contract.

Right? Once they pay him the big money, you've got to make concessions. But for the next two to three years, he'd not make any money. So this roster's only going to get better. This kid is nails fourth quarter trailing. And I know, I know Jaylen Hertz was out. But if you're doing things now in late December, in chilly weather, against the number one defense in the league and driving down,

that last drive was art, baby. That's what the great ones look like. That is goat stuff. And we said we bought, we everybody on their show loved him. J. Mack loved him. I loved him coming out of college. But he is better than I thought early. And here he is after.

I always believe that we can win the game no matter what. The game is never over to a clock at zero. I think you live for these type of moments. You know, you got those guys that came in on the win streak they were on. They were hot. And they were a very good team, rightfully. So good offense, good defense all around, well-prepared team. And you want to go out there, see where you match,

and you match up against those type of guys. I've got to tell you, sometimes I feel so lucky to do this for a living. I'm watching all these young quarterbacks. Panics looks poised. Jaden is money. Caleb hasn't thrown a pick in forever since like Halloween. Bo Nix. I think he and Sean Payton work.

I don't know about J.J. McCarthy, but Drake May yesterday, I'm like, oh, oh, dude can play. I mean, I think we did a five for five. I mean, Pennix, even when Pennix was throwing the ball away yesterday, he was good. But none of them have been consistently as good. trailing and in the fourth quarter as Jaden Daniels. This is an exciting time.

I mean, for a Washington franchise, I'm telling you, it was the Warriors for a long time. They were great in the 70s, talk about the 80s, and all of a sudden you're like post-Joe Gibbs, it's like, what's going on here? Bad ownership. I'd love to see Washington 15-year run with this kid. Can you imagine having Lamar Jackson in the race,

Ravens and right around the corner having Jaden Daniels basically kind of like the duplicate. He's a little better in the pocket than early Lamar. Maybe not as electric running quite as Lamar. What a rivalry. This could be even though one's NFC, one's AFC. That just be fantastic for the league. Because we know the New York teams, you can't trust them as big East Coast markets to do anything. So why not get Baltimore and Washington?

J. Mack, when I was a kid, my favorite. team was Washington, 1972. George, I can name the whole team. Pat Fisher, Chris Hanberger, Diron Talbert, Larry Brown, Billy Kilmer. It's my favorite team, and they were great. And they had a big rivalry with the Cowboys, and weren't very good for a while.

And here comes Joe Gibbs, and they were great, right, right? And so for you growing up, you're younger than me. You probably remember the Joe Gibbs. Yeah. Unfortunately, I was living in Northern Virginia at the time, and I was not a Washington at the time, Redskins fan. I was a Jet Sky, of course, was I had to keep true to my new But people often forget if you're in your 20s, how great this franchise's history was. 80s and 90s?

There was a time. There was a time in the 70s. I remember them used to 70s and the 80s. They had like a 30-year waiting list for season tickets. That's right. They would talk about that on TV all the time, the waiting list for tickets. But bad ownership, corrosive ownership, it can sink even the greatest fans. So I just, as I watch Washington, it just brings back all these 70s, 80s and some 90s stuff, how great this franchise was.

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Listen, we've pretty much got the playoff seating all set. I mean, you got a lot of teams at 80 percent. I think Washington's now at like 80 percent to get in or 80 or 90, and the chargers are at 98 percent. So the AFC playoffs to me, Joe Burrow and the Bengals, I mean, the fact that Joe Burrow. God, he's good. It's insane. Bad old line, terrible defense, shaky ownership.

Joe Burroughs doing his thing. But it does look like the AFC playoffs are set, just some seating stuff, and the NFC with Washington winning, they're going to get in. But there's always little stories inside of the game. And we all know Caleb Williams is great and the bears are dysfunctional.

And we know the lions are very good. Cross your fingers, getting as many players back as they can. I don't know right now if they're necessarily better than Green Bay in Minnesota with all their injuries. I think maybe, but maybe not. But as they were hammering the Bears yesterday, they resorted to a trick play. The old fake fumble. Why did they do that?

Because there's three NFL job openings. Jet Saints, Bears, and the Bears is the best one. And the offensive coordinator for Detroit, Ben Johnson wanted to make sure the Chicago brass got a look at the entire playbook. Maybe it's just me. Maybe it's just me, but it does look interesting. Why, I mean, common sense would tell you, you would run that play as an element of surprise

in a big game to end the season or in the playoffs. So why run it in a blowout? I think with Caleb Williams, it's certainly reasonable to hire an offensive coordinator. although I think it's a heavy lift, I'd probably go Vrabel, culture changer, but I thought that was interesting. The story inside the game, let's get a little clever, a play that we don't necessarily need, Chicago is watching.

And the thing about Chicago, this is a good job by bad team standards because of Caleb Williams. That's it. I mean, they have a nice roster. There's a lot of nice rosters. But Denver and Washington have proven this year, if you get a coach or a quarterback or both right, you can go bad to playoffs very quickly. And when I watch Caleb Williams, this is quarterback purgatory.

They have never had 30 touchdown passes by a quarterback in one year, which is almost, it's almost hard to comprehend, but Chicago's done that. So I do think Ben Johnson was showing off, and I don't have a problem with it. The problem with the Bears is I think they need a complete overhaul, and the play calling was it was interesting to say the least. But the story, and he'll get a head job. He was offered one last year, mid-flight turned around, and I don't think it's necessarily,

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It just doesn't get any better than this. This is what it's all about. Can it get frustrating? Can it get stressful? Yeah, it gets all those. But it's also, it's the drug. It's the drug. You know, this is what you live for.

And look, some can't. Some can't handle this. It's too much for them. Players, coaches, teams. It's just too much. But not our group. This is the good stuff, man. And we're in the middle of it right now.

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This is the herd line news. All right, let's get started, Colin, with the AFC North Clash from Saturday. The Ravens beat up on the Steelers. Very impressive performance, officially punching their postseason ticket. Lamar, 207 yards passing and three touchdowns. Baltimore and Pittsburgh now tied at 10 and 5 atop the north. Two weeks left. Lamar, listen, last two seasons, we got some numbers.

here. He is putting up monster numbers. Happy for Lamar. Obviously, we need to say, hey, let's see it in January when it matters more. But impressive win nonetheless. Look at this. Tell our radio audience this. The last two seasons, he is first in total

yards, first in passer rating. Zay Flowers has really elevated the passing game. No question. Zay Flowers, I think a BC kid, but a nice gift. And the total touchdown to interception ratio is 69 to 11. So we can put this to bed.

He's not good from the pocket. He didn't have good receivers. They got him Zay Flowers. I think Flowers can be, you know, he's had some drops. He's a smaller... He had a rough AFC championship game. He did. But there's no question that Lamar seeks him

in big third down spots. He's good. Steelers secondary had some injuries. Listen, they came out of that game walking wounded. It looks like three guys from the defense may not go on Christmas. Chiefs reeling a bit. Sorry, Steelers reeling a bit. They've lost three of five.

Now they play the Chiefs on Christmas, Colin. I don't know if I'm... Are you scared of the Steelers right now? Well, I think, you know, statistically, defensive players get hurt more than offensive players. That's just the way the stats historically show you. That side of the ball is physically a little more reckless. So when you build a culture around defense and your defensive guys are getting hurt,

this is who they are. you know, Baltimore is an off, really it's a physical offensive culture with Derek and Lamar. So I just think the one way Pittsburgh was going to shock the world was stay healthy. Because let's be honest, most of their, if you think of Pittsburgh, they were shutting teams down. They weren't dropping 35 points. It looks like the loser of Steelers, Ravens, and the division will travel to Houston in the first round of the playoffs, which is not a bad matchup for Houston or Pittsburgh. I mean, that's a good game.

I don't know if Tomlin gets a playoff win this year, Colin. I know they'll get there on. I think Baltimore is still going to win the division. I would agree. And if they do, they would host. I will go four for four in the AFC. Oh, picking every division winner? Four for four.

And now that Atlanta's in first place, I'm going to go three for four over there. Okay. A little early flex here. on the show. Nicely done. How did college football? No, I'm just kidding. Not good. Let's go to Michael Pennings. Another victory for you. Michael Penning's, man, he looked good. I need to start this off by saying the interception was not on him.

Kyle Pitts, boneheaded stuff. And multiple reports, there were four drops by the Falcons. Pennix was outstanding. Here's Rahim Morris on his rookie quarterback. Willie Rowleyed behind a young man. He went out and played almost flawless football, the ability to go out there and be it to retain the information to be able to bring it to the sideline and be able to communicate and talk through

situation of football. I think the guy is just a grown adult that came in with a high level of football experience that's done nothing over the last 14 weeks or 15 weeks, whatever's been, of working that into his game. And I couldn't be more proud of the young man. You know what's cool about Pennix? You know, Jaden, Daniels, and Caleb, they're going to move a lot. Bo Nix actually moves better than anybody thought he would.

Penix is actually, of all these rookie quarterbacks, he's the pocket guy. He's the guy that's going to sit in the pocket. And because of that, he is so, I mean, between Indiana and Washington, he played in cold weather, got huge mitts on him. He really, when I watch him play, his temperament and his poise in the pocket, like, you watch he and Jaden Daniels. They don't look like rookies. They don't get rattled.

They don't get, I mean, panics. And now, again, I do think Atlanta's Olin and running back is really good. So this is a nice play. He inherited a pretty decent roster. Drake London, Robinson, pretty good old line. But when you watched him, even when he threw the ball away, it was like, oh, that's seven-year veteran stuff. Like his understanding of kind of the tempo of the game,

he just looks like he looked at Washington. He just looks in control of the game. Now, listen, I don't know how much of this is facing this, the giants who are pathetic and clearly tanking. I mean, I don't know. They don't even know. Their defense is terrible. And two pick six is from Drew. So the score, you know, 34-7 beat down.

I'm very curious what happens with Kirk Cousins. Because there was an article that indicates that Falcons are expected to cut Kirk Cousins before he's owed a $10 million bonus. There's a big bonus, yeah. It's over for Cousins. I don't know if you... I will tell you this. Increasingly, I am hearing executives who need a quarterback think the Vikings are going to keep Darnel. What?

Franchise tagged in. Come on. No, that's what I'm hearing. And Kirk Cousins may get himself a contract somewhere. Has an entire offseason to get better post-surgery. There's going to be value on Kirk Cousins. And maybe he'll take that Russell Wilson deal. Hey, man, they're paying you 27-miller or whatever the number is.

I'm not paying you anything. Come to us. Like, seriously, I watch Gino Smith again vomit all over himself in a big spot. I would consider Kirk Cousins in Seattle. Yeah. I mean, you know, you look at Tennessee. They could use a quarterback. Mason Rudolph ain't the guy.

Because this is not a strong quarterback class. And I think a lot of people think that Aaron Rogers is playing pretty good now. He's more athletic than Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins. Just take care of his body post surgery. I would take Kirk Cousins at a heartbeat over Aaron Rogers next year. Would not even be close. Is there Kirk Cousin's drama in the locker room?

Is he giving interviews every week talking about nonsense? I'm just saying, Aaron's, in my opinion, Aaron's last four games. he's been pretty good. That's not his fault that his left tackle moved. I didn't think he was great yesterday. I know they didn't punt, but... Well, I think both offenses struggled, but I thought Aaron through three quarters was pretty good.

I mean, again, he wasn't putting up big numbers, but he's moving a little bit better. They had a left tackle. They had somebody that jumped. I think a guy, is it Max Mitchell? Somebody on the left side, I forget the name, jumped, and it was bad timing. We'll start a team.

You can have Rogers, I'll have cousins. Okay. See how that works out. I don't want him forever. Roger's all yours. Enjoy everything. the coaching search, the GM search. Yeah, a lot of fun.

But, you know, Kirk Cousin sounds like he's going to be playing elsewhere next year. Final story, Colin, is the Rams, who did beat the Jets, 13 unanswered points in the fourth quarter. And the Rams, also by virtue of the Seahawks losing to the Vikings, the Rams control their own destiny. If they beat the Cardinals this week, the division is theirs, and the Cardinals got eliminated by the Panthers. Hey, Kyla Murray, hopefully we get to him later.

But Rams, December, start to cook. So they got their tight-end Tyler Higby back. His first catch was a touchdown. So this is the first time all year. They had all their starters in offense. And so, you know, they were just last two years. They can't stay healthy until like November. So I don't think they're a great team.

But when Stafford, this is the third straight game, J. Mack. Stafford hasn't been sacked. No, in the first couple weeks, it was brutal. So now they have Puka and Cup, and they have Tyler Higby and Kairn Williams. and they have their offensive line. So what you're seeing is a defense that's probably a year away. It's a lot of rookies and second year guys. And an offense now that I think I would not want to play the Rams.

That's all I'm saying. Really? It looks like it's going to be your Packers coming to SoFi. I know. Packers look like they're locked in to that six. So they would come to Sofi for a playoff game. Remember what they did indoors in Dallas last year? You know what?

That's a hell of a game. I think we have to go to that game. go to that game. Packers at Rams, talk to your people. You know all the players. You're the big dog. Your people are my people. That would be a phenomenal game. I wouldn't count out the Rams just yet. LaFleur is such a good coach.

Oh, he's so good. I think that'll be the best game of Wild Card weekend. Packers Rams. Can you imagine SoFi Stadium? It'll be a 50-50 crowd. Maybe 64. Rams have a pretty good following. If you're in Green Bay, Wisconsin, you're looking to get out of Dodge.

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College football, college football fans are freaking out. I just, I'll get to that on the other side, some college football stuff. I want to say this, though. Two things are official for the San Francisco 49ers. Number one, they're out of the playoffs. Number two, they would be insane to sign Brock Purdy early to a big money contract.

Second week in a row. The game's there. A couple minutes left. Make a play. Horrible pick. So they were healthy on defense. Kittle was great. That's the best Debo I've seen all season.

Jennings was there. Miami's reeling, and I got a nothing burger. 17 points. Second week in a row, bad pick. 11 penalties. So if you want to be a $55 million quarterback, it's not about how good are you when everything's perfect. It's about when you're missing a piece or two,

like Sam Darnold's missing a left tackle. They go, wait, no. I don't want to hear they don't have Christian McCaffrey. That's where you pay $55 million. That's where you pay $48 million when things aren't perfect. And so that's my takeaway on pretty. He's solid, and he can be really productive if everything is in line.

that's not the NFL. The NFL is much closer to Cincinnati this year. I mean, look at Joe Burrell. I don't love the owner. The coach is fine. Defense is terrible. Offensive line is below average. And the guys, like, leads the NFL in passing touchdowns and passing yards.

Well, he's got Jamar Chase. Oh, gosh, he gets one great receiver. Sorry. Now, Brock Purdy had Jennings. Oh, Debo was fantastic yesterday. George Kittle's been fantastic all season. Offensive line was fine. His prediction was okay.

And I get nothing. get 17 points and in the biggest moment of the game I get a bad pick so you know purdy is I've talked about this before it's not that I don't like him he is the classic if quarterback if he has a great defense if he has excellent protection if the weather is good he can win a lot of games this is not an if league jaden Daniels is not doing the if thing jaden Daniels throwing for five touchdown passes with one weapon. He's not an if. Jaden Daniels is in a

tough division facing the number one defense in the league and he's got to go down the field and win the game and he does. That's not if. So I'll pay $60 million, but if you start being an if guy, I'm not interested and that's what I feel here. So Perti's

success is contingent on other people's availability and health and talent. That's a $35 million quarterback when your success is contingent overwhelmingly on others. And the other thing I was talking to a friend of mine who's an executive in the NFL. And we both love talking quarterbacks. And he said, there's got to be a wow.

And he was saying this is why he didn't love Kenny Pickett. He said, there was no wow. It's got to be arm. It's got to be accuracy. It's got to be mobile. I mean, you watch Jayden Daniels and there's wow in his athletes. athleticism, there's wow in his ability to accurately throw the ball in a less than perfect pocket. You watch Kenny Pickett, who was backing up for Jalen Hertz.

There's not a lot of wow there. So when I look at Purdy, again, quarterbacks are trucks. They're pulling a team or trailers they're being pulled. He's the classic trailer. So it's a mistake the Cowboys made, right? They're paying a guy that has to be pulled 60. You can't do that. Or you end up, you know, winning seven or eight games every year.

So I'm watching these. And if you look at Brock Purdy, career including playoffs, his first 20 starts, this is when the stars were closer to their prime and they were healthy. He's 17 and 3. In his last 20 starts, when the roster's gotten older, he's 10 and 10. His passer rating was 116. When everybody was saying, give him the bag, now his passer rating is 93, which is fine. But Jaden Daniels, as a rookie, in my opinion, a less talented roster. We can argue that, but a less talented roster, in my opinion.

Go look at Jaden Daniels, passer rating and fourth quarter while trailing passer rating. That's a first-round quarterback. So this is not anti-Brock Purdy. But at this point, I mean, 11 penalties? Kyle Shanan talked about those penalties after. No matter what's going on when you have those penalties like that, you don't deserve to win. That's my big frustration.

I understand when your backs are against the wall and you have an uphill battle. But when you got first and goal at the two and you make it third in goal at the 18 or whatever that is and you miss a kick and it's completely something that you've done on your own, that's very frustrating. It makes it much harder. Yeah, it was a moment in that game

where Ricky Piersall didn't line up. Debo had a, Debo was great yesterday. Debo had a great play down to the two. It would have been a touchdown. Next couple plays, touchdown. They were moving the ball. Instead, it negates it. You get backed up.

You miss the field goal. There's your ball game. I'm not blaming all of it, all of it on Brock Turdy. But I do wonder if you had a veteran quarterback that looked over and got pierce all on the line of scrimmage. I just, you can't convince me this stuff. You've been yelling at me now, Colin, you don't like him. It's like, guys, that Miami game, Miami was reeling. Weather was good.

Defense was finally healthy. yet Debo was great, Kittle was great. You had the pieces. Didn't have all of them, but you had most of them. Plus Kyle Shanion, 17 points. Can't write big checks for that. All right, college football fans are freaking out. Colin right, calling wrong, Matt Hasselbeck.

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So in the college football playoff, the first. round there's some home games and all four road teams and I was shocked that Tennessee got blasted but all four road teams got blasted well you know I was thinking Indiana and Tennessee there'd be good games I thought Clemson would get blasted in SMU but listen let's let's just take a deep breath here number one is this is a 12 team playoff that will become a 14 or 16 team playoff in the near future so the only reason we got this thing the only reason we have this instead of a Pop-Tart bowl,

is because of bureaucracy and negotiations and concessions, like the Mountain West getting a buy. Okay, I think they'll eventually move to 14 teams. They'll reseed after the first round. Now, this weekend, this next weekend, we're getting neutral-site games. So I think the games will be much better. But yes, Bama and Ole Miss have more NFL bodies

than Indiana, SMU, and Clemson, maybe combined. But that's not what this is about. You want NFL bodies? watch on Sunday. So the second thing is never in my life in college football did I think, like take Nick Sabin when he was dominating college football for 12 years. Did you ever think during that time? You know, I would love to see the number eight team in the country go into Tuscaloosa. I think they have a chance. Hell half the time, the number two team in the country didn't have a chance. So you're going to see if this thing expands and goes to 14 and 16 teams, the first round

of it, college teams don't play well on the road. I mean, I watched Tennessee play four times. They just fell apart. I think was 21-0, nothing, boom. And Ohio State, off that Michigan loss was in no mood to mess around. I mean, they were hitting like Sunday football players. So we just have to remember, it's going to expand. We only got this puppy for bureaucracy and concessions.

And the other thing to remember is the reason this was created is because, College football, I mean, think about if we didn't have this. After Ohio State lost to Michigan, you're going to a second-tier bowl game, Citrus Bowl. Ohio State, after this weekend, I think, can win the nanny. They may be favored to win the nanny. I watched Texas Longhorns past defense against Clemson. So what you want, college football always had this problem. Number two, there weren't enough big games.

I mean, how many times this college football season? I think there's been three or four weekends where I'm looking around thinking, maybe Notre Dame blank will be interesting. Maybe it lacks big games. This weekend, we got big games. Georgia Notre Dame, we got big boy games. And we'll have bigger boy games after that. And the second thing was, even if you were a good team,

if you had two losses by October, your season was over. You're not playing for any big games. I mean, now you can lose three games, and there's an argument, Bama, to get you in. So it's just extended the joy and the hope and the optimism, and that's great for college football. I mean, half these bowl games, they're giving away tickets, and the stadium is still half full.

So I guess my takeaway on the actual games, Ohio State, and this is why I like the NFL, Ohio State had a crushing loss at home, a devastating loss. maybe the worst loss the Buckeyes have had in 20 years. And this morning you wake up and you're like, we're good. We're all good. I think they look like the best team in the country.

Here's Ryan Day after. It had been a long lead up for us, you know, weeks. And it does. You know, to say it doesn't weigh on you, it does. We have a lot of pride in who we are. And these guys have a lot of pride. I think it says a lot about who our guys are that we're able to respond like that in a big way. So I took the underdogs this weekend.

J. Mack took the favorites. We both took Texas to win easily. But even the Texas win over Clemson, Clemson's young quarterback's pretty good. I was a little disappointed in the Texas defense. There were a lot of yards. Clemson took a big swing. What really drove me crazy,

how Indiana lost. Not the score, but to be punting in plus territory. Kurt Signetti, all he does is talk. It's just a big old chutzpah. chest is out, and then you played not to lose. That game drove me nuts. I didn't have a problem with Clemson losing. They took big swings.

They should be proud of their season. I think Clemson, Texas is good at home. And I think Notre Dame's probably better than I've given them credit for. I did not like the way Indiana was basically coaching not to get embarrassed instead of coaching to, you know, take some swings. SMU was just outclass by Penn State. J. Mack and I both think Boise State. to give Penn State a little pushback,

but we are now going to neutral fields so the games will be much better. I guess what I learned this weekend is what I should have known is that college football teams struggle on the road. They're 18, 19-year-old kids. They struggle in discomfort. They're just much better at home. So Texas, Arizona State, I'll take Texas, Ohio State, Oregon.

I said before the year, I liked Oregon to win in Outson, Ohio State to win the next matchup. Penn State, Boise State, close. Notre Dame, George, I'll sit on that one. I'll say this, though, if you're Oregon, your reward for having the only perfect season is playing Ohio State. Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame coach, is on our show tomorrow.

Think about that if you're Oregon. So Penn State gets SMU and Boise State and Oregon beat them. And early money, this opened one and a half, Ohio State favorite. it's already up to two and a half. Like, everybody thinks Ohio State's winning this game. Well, they look great.

How many times have we seen in the NFL, the team that had a buy come out sluggish and the team that played the week prior is all geeked up? I mean, one of the things, one of my only complaints about the 12-team playoff, why did you make Oregon's road tougher than Penn State? Yeah, in hindsight, that's not great. And I just, and I also think,

we're going to have to go into reseeding. I also think, why are we given? I understand the concessions and the bureaucrats, but Boise State sitting around didn't have to play in the first round, Mountain West. I've been doing a lot of homework on Boise. We'll see. I like the Broncos a lot in that one. But the Notre Dame Georgia game, remember, it's a Georgia backup quarterback, so not a ton of tape on him.

I think... Were you impressed with Notre Dame, or was it just Indiana and Eptit? No, no, no. I went and watched Notre Dame play live against USC, and USC had about 500 yards. So I came out of that game thinking, but then I always... also thought they were a big favorite. They got a big lead. And it kind of felt like they shifted in the cruise control.

So I got to give, I think Notre Dame is pretty good football team. But, you know, they had a really bad loss early, but this is why the 12th team playoff is great. It didn't in their season. Yeah. They had a terrible loss at home early. Okay. You get it.

College football now allows you a mulligan, and you may even get two. I mean, Alabama almost got in with a bandy loss and getting routed. by an average Oklahoma team. And I watched that first half of that game. I'm like, what am I watching? And Bama was the team that many argued with three losses should have been in. Colin right, Colin wrong, hour two next.

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