The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Scottie Scheffler and Tiger Woods

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

Colin discusses Scottie Scheffler winning the Open Championship adding a 4th major championship win to his resume but calls for people to slow down on the comparisons to Tiger Woods People continue to attack Caitlin Clark even though she is the reason the WNBA is becoming profitable See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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J-Mack, it is, I love my golf mate. and I especially love a golf major when a dominant player could be Bryson DeShamba, who by the way his last three rounds, he was absolutely on fire, Rory, or a guy who maybe not as fascinating but dominating Scotty Sheffler. So I want to start with that, Jay Mack. There's a lot of talk yesterday because Scotty Sheffler wins and really pulled away, played great early in the final round, pulled away from the other world-class golfers, and people are saying, man, this feels like Tiger Woods.

No, it doesn't, and I love Scotty Schaeffler. They have one thing in common. Scotty Schaffler right now in his prime, and Tiger in his prime felt like they were absolutely better than even the second best golfer in the world. And if both were hitting their putts and Tiger almost always was, eh, if they go into the final round with a lead, you're not catching them. That's what they have in common.

But Tiger was much longer off the tee. and golf equipment's actually improved. He was 40 yards off the T longer. Sometimes, and Sheffler's about 3.3.10, sometimes Tiger was 360, 370. Secondly, Tiger is the best iron player I've ever seen in my life. Maybe there's somebody better, I'm not sure. And Tiger was consistently on the tour in his prime.

Unbelievable lag putter and an unbelievable big tournament, big pot star. Sheffler's gotten way better at that. But he can struggle. at least he did previously. So, I mean, they were talking about tiger-proofing courses. It was ridiculous. Sheffler, again, there's a difference. Scotty Sheffler doesn't intimidate other golfers.

He just beats them. Tiger Woods, the galleries, the fist pump. He leaned into it. Much more Michael Jordan. He'd taunt you with the free-throw line. They were trying to tiger-proof courses, but you couldn't do anything. Okay, let's make it longer. That played the tiger's advantage.

So Sheffler is ruling golf. To me, Tiger revolutionized it. Tiger was MJ or Mike Tyson in his prime. He intimidated other great fighters, other NBA all-stars. And again, Tiger loved it, like MJ, loved taunting you. Sheffler's more Tim Duncan. Reserved avoids mistakes. Fundamentally strong, business-like, now that he's got the putting going,

if he leads on Sunday, it's over. But Tiger made you feel like you wanted to go out. He had so much alpha. You'd watch Tiger play, and you wanted to go to the driving range. You wanted to grab your clubs and go play. I mean, Scotty Sheffler, he said it last week. I don't get much out of winning. He's a little bit of a buzzkill.

I love Tim Duncan, but he never made me want to go grab a basketball. When I was a kid, if you watched a great player, you'd want to go out in the backyard and shoot. that that's not Sheffler so it's like LeBron LeBron got to eight straight finals but he never felt like he quite had the the MJ killer instinct the MJ juice the MJ feel I mean think about this they're both at 29 tiger had 10 majors and 46 wins Shephler's got four and 17 Phil Mickelson is a legend an all-time great golfer he's got 45 career wins Tiger had 46 and his 20s.

So again, there's a difference between ruling golf and revolutionizing it. There's a difference between winning and intimidating. And I think that is when you can get into other golfers or other fighters or other UFC fighters' heads, that's Tiger. Scotty's just great. And now that he's got his putting going, if he leads going into Sunday, that thing felt over by his third. hole. You're like, yeah, yeah, it's over. I think even he afterwards, after the open win, acknowledge that. I still think they're a bit silly. You know, Tiger won, what, 15 majors? It's my fourth. Just got one fourth of the way there. So just, I mean, it's, I think Tiger stands

alone in the game of golf. I don't focus on that kind of stuff. That's not what motivates me. I'm not I'm not motivated by winning championships. I feel like what motivates me is just getting out and, you know, getting to low out my dream. Yeah, Scotty Sheffler's great. Tiger was obsessed. And there is something about the athletes in our time. Brady, obsessed with football. Obsessed.

Josh Allen's really good. Is he obsessed? I don't know. But Brady's obsession slash. intensity was kind of intimidating. I mean, I grew up with John Elway. I was a Seahawk fan. If you grew up and you led and Elway got the ball,

it was deflating. You knew the outcome. That was Brady. I don't feel that with, I never felt that with Aaron Rogers who's good. It's a coin flip. Will he come back and win or not? It's coin flip.

Brady, it's over. Get in the car, warm the car up, start the car. And I think that intensity of Tiger is just different than anything I've ever seen. Okay, so ESPN's analytic writers, this is data, it's not necessarily opinions, driven by data, ranked the NFL rosters going into a season. Now, a lot of it's predictable. At the top, it's Baltimore, Philly, Detroit, Buffalo, Kansas City, you know, a lot of that stuff. Bottom, you know, it's your saints and your giants and your jets, whatever.

But what's really interesting to me, smack dab in the middle, right? smack dab in the middle. Green Bay Packers 14, Chicago Bears 15. Even though the Packers have dominated that rivalry, it's a great rivalry. It is a great rivalry. NFC North is up for grabs. And if the NFL between the Packers and Bears is a head coach and quarterback league, and it is that it's Matt LaFleur and Jordan Love against Ben Johnson, another offensive coach, and another athletic quarterback Caleb Williams, that is great for one of the NFL's best rivalry. And I think what makes Caleb Williams so fascinating and why the bears are going to be such a great watch. Nobody disputes his talent.

Arm, athleticism, escapability, and toughness. I have a general manager in my kind of source group who's a critic of Caleb Williams doesn't know what the outcome is going to be. He acknowledges tough, big, explosive arm and insanely evasive. nobody disputes that what it really comes down to Caleb Williams is coachability creative strong those are traits we know that's great but all of the things he struggles with are improvable are coachable he holds on the ball too long you can coach your way out of that he misses layups easy stuff you can coach your way out of that sometimes i think he plays a little hero ball from time to time you can coach your way out of that. You can't get bigger and stronger and faster. That's not going to work.

So all of his traits are correctable and coachable. And I mean, I'll give you an example, pocket presence. Well, Lamar Jackson came into the NFL with none and now he's excellent. He is, Lamar Jackson is not only a great athlete. He's clearly smart and coachable. He did not have much of a pocket presence. He just ran and escaped. He knows what he's doing in the pocket now. He's a real pro. It has been for years. Josh Allen, accuracy was like inaccurate at Wyoming. Inaccurate in the NFL.

Now he's very accurate. That's coachable. Size's arm moving around. Dynamic is not. So when you look at Bo Nix, he's either going to be good, which he is now, or very good. When you look at Jaden Daniels, he's either going to be great or a legend. There is such a wide range of outcomes for Caleb Williams. it's going to be amazing or wow that didn't work you have this huge range of outcomes and that's why

i think last year the bears were a fascinating team in fact jemak called him the most interesting team in the league to start the year but it was mostly because of the dysfunction and the potential for an inferno and it was engulfed early this year it's not about dysfunction it's really about the roster's good it's as good as the packers The coach, he knows what he's doing, he's offensive. Oh, they short up the offensive line. It really comes down to, can Caleb take to coaching, take to developing, which I think is much easier when you're less talented.

I think if you have a marginal singing voice, you understand the value of your singing coach. I think it's the hardest people to coach, and they love the coaching, but it's hard when somebody's truly gifted. Andy Reed Mahomes. When do you pull back? When do you get out of the way? When do you let him do what he just sort of does? That's hard. It's easy. And I think Kirk Cousins knows, I'm going to follow the playbook here. I'm going to follow the coaching. I've got limitations. I think it's really hard to coach Mahomes. That goes against what you think because like when do you coach and when do you

just get out of the way and you got to sometimes with Caleb get out of the way. I've talked about this before. He had a moment against Arizona in college. I think it was his first year at USC. It may have been a second where he was on the sideline. It was fourth quarter late in the game. May have been overtime. There were like six Arizona wildcats around him and it ended up being a good bowl team for Arizona. It was six on one and they couldn't get it. And it was the most, it was a video game. So, you know, that's why by the way, Steve Kerr is a great coach. Because he took to coaching, therefore he adapted and knows coaching. Michael Jordan wasn't a great GM. Magic wasn't a great coach some of it's just i just got this skill and it leads me to the right place in crisis all right

j mac um a lot of things going on this week a little w nba players oh i find that story actually well i actually i i think there's a real argument that the w nba players are going to win negotiations I wouldn't do it the way they're doing it. You know, the T-shirt stuff, it's not the end of the world. It's kind of silly. But I do think there's something to be said. Even if you lose money for a company for 10 years, if you're at the end of your 10-year contract

and you finally start making money, do you want to bail on the investment? Like, it doesn't matter what they did for the last 25 years. In the last year, the growth of the WNBA, due to Caitlin Clark is so sensational. What are you going to do? Bail on your investment? It's finally paying off.

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The best defensive player, Caleb Downs, is a Buckeye. The recruiting once again was through the roof. Their NIL monies through the roof. And Penn State was picked to win the Big Ten. I think Penn State's going to face Texas in the national championship. And I think this is one of those things. And it's going to be hard to stomach for a lot of people. The Big Ten is officially better than the SEC.

It's not just that Ohio State won the Natty last year. It's that they humiliated Tennessee and dominated Texas. Texas scored 14 points. They'd scored over 14 points in 32 straight games in the SEC. They scored 14 points. The year before, Alabama played Michigan. When Michigan won the Natty, Alabama couldn't move the ball. They had barely had 100 yards passing.

it looks a lot like it used to eight years ago when a Georgia or an Bama would face a big 10 team and the big 10 teams couldn't really generate consistent offense the defenses the athletes were just too good go look at Tennessee against Ohio State's defense go look at Texas against Ohio State's defense go look at Bama the year before against Penn's Michigan's defense so and I think and I think there's reason for it, and I never thought this was possible. But it should be noted, every national champion, every single one in the college football era, college football playoff era, every one has been ranked inside of the preseason top six. And of the six preseason teams, highest ranked three, three are as a big 10 teams. So three of the top six ranked teams, and that tells you, who's

who's going to win the Natty. In 10 of 11 national championships, 10 of the last 11, the teams in the top five, one of them has won the Natty. So the Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon are all in the top six this year, and that's where the national champions come from. So last year, Ohio State lost to two big 10 teams. They rolled two SEC teams. It's the eye test. I said this three years ago. Something's changing.

and what's changing is money. Big Ten schools are bigger. They have more graduates. It's easier to raise money for NIL. You add in Phil Knight in the Nike money. You add in USC in the L.A. economy money. The Big Ten cities, L.A., New York with Rutgers, Chicago, Northwestern, Minneapolis, D.C., Seattle. That's, that Big Ten money is Hollywood Tech and Financial Centers.

It's a lot of car dealerships in the SEC. and car dealerships are running on razor-thin margins. So right now, the top spenders in college football, according to the on-three poll for the top seven or big ten, and that's not changing. That is not changing. So when Penn State is ahead of Ohio State in the preseason poll, and Ohio State's got a natty, a proven head coach,

unbelievable top three recruiting in the country, huge NIL money, and the best offensive and defensive. player in the country without question. They're better. I mean, SEC, you had your run, but I think at the very top, I'll take the Big Ten. Here was Urban

last week on Penn State. The question I have for Penn State, they have two great running backs. They have one of the best offensive lines in the country, certainly in the Big Ten. Do they have this skill on the outside? Last year, they did not.

That was not a typical Penn state receiving core and i don't know if they've made it better you know i keep trying to research that and we'll see them early in the season but i'm hoping they have better skill on the outside i think everything about penn state is a national championship contender yeah by the way they went into the portal uh karen hudson's one of the receivers they went and got from usc so their wide receiving core should be better and more dynamic but um it's the eye test i can remember watching six years ago, Georgia plays a good Big Ten team.

And those Big Ten teams, they just couldn't get around the corner. They couldn't generate consistent offense. That's what I've seen. Bama and Georgia and Texas struggle with against Michigan and Ohio State the last couple years. And I think this year the same. Penn State will just

look different. They'll look like an SEC offense and defense six years ago. J. Mack with the news. No. No. No. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, Colin, let's get started with the big news out here on the West Coast over the weekend.

The Lakers made a huge move. Picking up Maka Smott off the buyout market. He got a buyout from the hapless Washington Wizards, and he's going to Lakers on a two-year, $11 million deal. Basically, Colin, it's the same deal that Bradley Beale got from the paper clips. Now, Smart was the 22 defensive player of the year. He's been first team all defense three times.

He's had an injury history, no doubt about it. I don't want people freaking out, though, Colin. Oh, he's barely played the last two years. He was on dumpster fires, and they basically just shut him down so those teams could get higher drafting. So let's not go overboard on that. If you look at...

My take has always been. If you, if defense, if you are a actionable top defender. You age very quickly in the NBA. Trey Young will play for as long as he wants. Steph Curry could play forever. But if you are Marcus Smart,

how about Drew Holiday, how he aged overnight this year? Because Drew Holiday is putting a body on people every night, every possession. Marcus Smart puts a body on people. Tony Allen was a great defender, and then all of a sudden he got old fast. The guys that make their money defensively, If KD stays healthy, he can shoot for another six years. And that's not to say Katie's a terrible defender. But James Harden can still score.

He doesn't defend. Trey Young. So the guys that play real defense, the reason they're great defensive players is they get into your grill. They are on you, and that ages you. It's like I said, we're running quarterbacks. Big Ben aged really fast. Brady didn't.

Right? So you saw Luca was part of the entourage rolling out the red carpet for Marcus Smart. Luca also did that for DeAndre 8. Now I know he shares an agent with him. But it's interesting, LeBron was not part of this process. And I was asking around people yesterday, what do you think about this?

The vibe I got was, listen, Bradley Beale would have been great for the Lakers. But he doesn't help them defensively. Because remember, Reeves had to guard Aunt Edwards in that series. And he couldn't do that and then produce 25 and 5 or whatever. Marcus Smart now will get the best guard. He'll guard SGA. They'll guard Aunt Edwards.

Like, that will be his assignment in the postseason. I think this is a good pickup for the Lakers. Well, it's been established. You are really into teams in L.A. that sign old guys. That is your lane. He's 31 years old. Marcus Smart's old at 31, really?

I mean, I know he's got the injuries, but this is a good move for the Lakers. Again, Cam Newton and Big Ben, running quarterbacks, aged quickly. You know who didn't? Tom Brady. And by the way, Marcus Smart ages quickly. James Hardin doesn't because he doesn't put a body on people. He's avoiding contact. Marcus Smart initiated contact.

That's the difference between top and there's only one way to be a great defender in the NBA. You're either a rim protector. You just swat stuff, Janus, or you put a body on people. You make it uncomfortable. When you do that, it takes years off your career. Now, last note, Colin, this is in the fine print, very tight. tiny, the Lakers had to move off two guards, two small guards.

Shake Milton and Goodwin so they could make room for smart. Well, you know who this is good for? Brony James. Those two guys were basically 11 and 12. Bronny James just moved up a notch because they got off him. I'm telling you, he's going to play minutes this year, end of the rotation.

For Brony. All right, let's move on, Colin, to the Dallas Cowboys. Oh, boy. Well, guard Tyler Smith is very excited about Dallas's chances this year. I think he's getting a little crazy. Here's what he had to say about the NFC.

Super Bowl champions, as always the expectation. So, yeah. I think that's a realistic goal. I think it is a realistic goal. Because we can win the Super Bowl. Why not? Why can't we win? Do you think it's not realistic?

You think the roster is in place to do that? I think it is in place to do that, yes, sir. He's a young man. He doesn't quite know the personnel groupings in the NFL. He sounds like a fan, doesn't he? Oh, we don't limit. Let me look at this. The Dallas Cowboys, according to the analytic rankings.

Let me guess, 23rd? 18th. But what's funny is they have the Steelers 19th and the Seahawks 20, and I would take both of those over the Dallas Cowboys. I think the Cowboys are much closer to the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Raiders where they have a handful of really, really good players, but there's holes on the roster that are clear and definitive. I bet the Jets are higher than the Cowboys on there, right?

Jets have a lot of good guys. young players. Haven't proven anything yet. Yeah, the Jets actually don't have a lot of good young players. Were they? Oh, they're 29. They have a lot of good young players like under 26 years old, but they haven't done anything yet. We could do that later if you want. Anyways, final story, Colin, let's go back to the Lakers. Luca Donchich was in a video posted on the Lakers official YouTube page, and Doncha was asked what he wants to be known for in Los Angeles. Colin, you got to love this. He said he wants to be

known as a guy who brings multiple titles to L.A. Over under one and a half titles for Luca with the Lakers. Okay, I'm going to ask you, what do these great Lakers have in common? Jerry West, Kobe, Shack, Karene, LeBron James, Anthony Davis. What do they all have in common? They all wanted titles with the Lakers. All great defensive players in their prime. The only great all-time Laker who you can't categorize is a great defensive player was magic,

and some of that was at 6-8. Just the quick guys would get around him. But my take is if you look, if I said to you, let's just talk about all-time great players. Bill Russell, Kareem, LeBron James, Michael Jordan Kobe, Tim Duncan. There is a clear definitive, also beyond being profound offensive players. all great defensively. The next tier of players, Dirk Novitsky, Steph Curry, maybe some would say, Larry Byrd, Dr. J. They aren't great defensive players. So to be, if you look at the history of the Lakers,

everybody thinks it's about Flash. They're great players have almost always been dynamic defensive players on the other end. Okay, so Colin, the only issue with that is your list is heavy enough. heavy on the, you know, Bill Russell was like 50s or whatever, but a lot of 80s, 90s. The league has changed dramatically. Look at the guys now creeping into the top 10. Steph Curry, not an all-time great defender. Kevin Durant, top 15, not an all-time great defender.

Larry Bird did make all-defensive team three times second team early in his career. Not a phenomenal defender. The league has gone so big on offense. Yokic is not now in his all-time great defensive player. He's a top 20 player in the history of the sport. So if you just look at the modern era, it's more, can you get me a bucket? Can you get other guys a bucket? And I think Luca does that so well.

All right. Bucket guy. You're a hater on Luca. I get it. I understand. You're down on the Lakers and Luca. Not down. I'm just telling you what I see.

The West is loaded and young with great coaches. The Lakers are old. Don't have a lot of draft capital. And we don't know if JJ Reddick's elite. That's just what I'm seeing. You were third in the West, my friend, with a rookie coach. And AD hurt and Luca hurt and AD traded. Come on.

Cowherd, I need more positivity on a Monday, especially when it comes to the Lakers. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly news. 30 minutes from now on a Monday where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. So I am all for people asking for raises. So let me start with that.

I don't have a problem with the WNBA players asking for a raise. The WNBA is on a hot streak. I don't care about the previous 24, 25 years. As an investment, it's starting to pay off. And so this week they wore T-shirts saying, you know, making a statement, you better pay us. But instead of just leaving it at that, a Kelsey Plum for L.A. had to take a dig at Caitlin Clark.

Here he is. Here she is. The T-shirt just United Front was determined this morning that we had a meeting for. And, you know, not to tattletail, but zero members of Team Clark were very present for that. Oh, boy. Listen, NBA players make 50% of revenues.

WNBA players make 9%. and now the merch sales are up 500% and attendance is up, you know, 40%. So they're going to get a raise. There's no question. And I don't really care that the previous 25 years, they didn't make a lot of money or lost money. I don't care.

They're in the middle of a negotiation and they're on a heater. So it doesn't really matter. I've said this before. I made an investment for five years and it lost money. And I got about six months left in the investment. And in the last six months, they started making, in cash, I'm not bailing on the investment. I want to finally get my money back. So they're going to get a raise. They're finally turning a corner. And negotiating in any business is all about

current momentum. It's not about 12 years ago. It's about current momentum. There are companies. I'll give you an example. When the athletic, which is a subscription-based sports writing site, got purchased by the New York Times, the athletic was losing 45 million a year. year. They bought it for scale. They bought it because at the time Biden, not Trump, was president. They were losing clicks. They weren't doing as well digitally, and the athletic answered that bell. Athletic still doesn't make money. They bought it for scale. Not every company that wins in negotiations or is sold is wildly profitable. But the projection for the WNBA going forward and the current momentum are really, really good. So the T-shirts don't bother me.

But why do you take a shot at the Golden Goose, Caitlin Clark? You guys were flying before she arrived on one of those airlines that made you pay for a cup of water. One of those airlines that is the planes are the color of a highlighter. Now you're flying private. If you're in a band and you're staying at the Motel 6 and you add a band member and now you're at the Rich Carlton, keep your issues to yourself. All right. You went from a motel six

in a sketchy part of town to about four seasons in the shopping district. Stop talking. I don't mind the t-shirts. I think you have leverage. I think you deserve more than 9% but it's just misstep after

misstep. It's time to grow up, girls, like fast. Like, this is the player that got you off the airline that was bright yellow. Right? She got you an upgrade to a better hotel as a band member. So I do think a lot of people are saying,

hey, man, this league has never made money. It's an investment. It's now going to make money. And by the way, this is the least profitable, arguably. It'll be over the next 10 years. It's only going to get more profitable as women's basketball gets better, as the Caitlin Clark momentum train gets bigger. I mean, this year, she's not playing well, she's hurt,

she's not there for all the games. So this is actually not as great as it could be. Like Michael Jordan, hurt year two, next 12 years were legendary. That's what it's going to be. So I think they deserve a big raise, maybe not 50% of revenues, because NBA stars, there's a lot of them, and they move the needle.

The WNBA stars, well, there's one that moves the needle. And here's the other thing to remember. Caitlin Clark's already rich. She made $11 million this year alone in endorsements off the court. So regardless of how these negotiations go, she sat. Nobody else is. Right? Like so when somebody joins the band and everything gets upgraded, just be happy. Just, just, I know you wanted your song to be the first one they played. You wanted to make up the set. Just, just,

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August 2nd on Fox. By the way, big news today. The herd is reached 400 affiliates. A big thank you to Rip City Radio 620 in Portland, KPOJ, which is kind of ironic. I hit 400 affiliates on the place where it all started. So thank you to Portland, the Blazer Station, and I love that. So I saw this. I do not think this is a coincidence. I'm not a big coincidence guy. I'm not a big fate guy. I think things happened due to choices. So ESPN had its analytic writers, ranked the 32 best rosters. Again, but Baltimore, Philly, Detroit, Buffalo, really good rosters.

All of them really, you know, good GMs. But here's what's interesting. The Sean Payton effect. Denver's at 6. And 32, dead last is the Saints. Don't think it's a coincidence. We all know Sean Peyton is arguably the best play caller in the sport. We also know he's a great play designer.

Maybe not Andy Reid, but a great play designer. Yeah, he can do the personnel thing too. So I'm going to suggest it is not a coincidence that the Saints have nosedive in personnel to dead last in the league analytically. And the Broncos are suddenly sixth. And to me, Andy Reed, Sean Payton, and Sean McVeigh, and the Harbos are close, have sort of separated from the league in coaching. Play calling, play designing, culture, creation, and a sense of personnel. Colin Kyle Shanahan, slow down. he's 0 and 43 when trailing by eight or more in the fourth quarter.

I've said this, and I love Kyle Shanahan. He has a rigidity about his play calling. He gets very tied. It's not all Brock Purdy. He gets very tied, not all Jimmy Garoppolo, to his play sheet. But what makes this whole thing by Sean Payton? He's underrated at this point because everybody acknowledges the Harbaughes are great, and Andy Reid is great.

And Sean McVeigh is unbelievable. And it's like, no, guys, I've said this before. I'm always impressed with a kid that grows up with nothing and makes something of himself. I mean, if you're worth $100 million, but you were a trust fund kid that grew up with 30 over the course of time, not that impressive. If you grew up in an unstable household and become just a millionaire of any level, I'm blown away by that. Okay, think about what he inherited. Russell Wilson's contract, the largest at the time dead cap number ever when they moved off him.

Oh, and by the way, Denver also gave up two first round picks to get Russell Wilson. So they didn't have ammo. They lacked elite draft capital, and they had the worst dead cap situation ever in a division with Andy Reed, Patrick Mahomes, and GM Brett Veach. And the Hunt family, A plus is across the board. And it's only gotten stronger. it's Harbaugh in the division. So he got the Broncos last year. In the very tough AFC West, in the tougher conference of the two, although it's close now, the AFC,

to the playoffs with a quarterback in Bo Nix that wasn't universally lauded coming into the draft. They looked it up this morning. This was PFF scouting reporter on Bo Nix. Now, I love Bo Nix out of college. They did not. They said, limited ceiling, no truly elite trait. Knicks has a rather high floor due to his age, but very limited ceiling. Tough to justify spending overly valuable draft capital on him.

So overwhelmingly in the league, Bo Nix was like the fifth most talented quarterback. And in the division with Herbert Harbaugh, Reed and Mahomes, and a great front office, Bo Nix gets into the playoffs. Bo Nix, in fact, had more touchdown passes and total touchdowns than Jaden McDaniels, who had Terry McLaurin and a weaker division with the Giants and the Cowboys. So I'm just saying if you look at the awful saints, if you look at the rising Broncos, the fact, and this is something offensive coaches do very well. Reed does it, McVeigh does it, Sean Payton's done it,

it's something offensive coaches do better than defensive coaches. I don't think it's arguable. When he got, not only was the culture, broken in Denver. The quarterback was broken. The dead cat money was going to be unbelievable. They'd given up two first round picks to get Ross. The offensive line was a mess. By the end of his first year, it was a top 12 offensive line. Now it's viewed. I just saw this, I think on PFF or one of these ranking systems. It's like the second to third best offensive line in football. That's Sean Payton. That's not the GM or the new owner. That's not the defensive coordinator.

That's not Bo Nix. That's Sean Payton. Because they couldn't get the O line right for years. He arrives. It's suddenly great. That's what McVeigh did overnight in L.A. with Andrew Whitworth. It's what Andy Reid has done the last four years, as they've paid Mahomes. You've got to kind of ham and egg it on the offensive line. You can't pay everybody up front. So I think we universally know Andy Reid, the Harbaugh, Sean McVeigh,

what Sean Payton has done, what he's had to overcome, lack of draft capital, dead cap money. it is remarkable. And right now, they're considered to have the sixth best roster in the league. Not a lot of coaches are great with personnel. Jimmy Johnson's a legend. Jimmy Johnson created the draft board, you know, the value system. Like, nobody made trades in the NFL before Jimmy Johnson. The New York Giants had made one trade ever.

I think it was. Or maybe it was one in-season trade. I don't know what it was. But nobody traded. When I was a kid growing up, people didn't make big trades. Then Jimmy Johnson came in, the Hershey. Walker deal with the Vikings and then it's like oh wow you can take you can you can you can really take advantage of people in this trading thing uh calling right calling wrong

top of the next hour so jac mack has had i got to tell you jac mack i've really seen a pivot if you age now and you're growing a mustache between bradley beale oh dear and marcus smart old guy to la teams you are on an old guy heater i went and looked this morning at the uh clippers odds pre-bradley Beal and post Bradley Beal. Remarkably, they did not move at all. Well, what can I say? You know, folks are not really as up on the Bradley Beal factor as I am. But I'll be honest, Colin, this is one of those, you had to, I had to take last week. You were out, remember last Monday, your travel staff, and I said something to Broussard during our interview about how Bradley Bill puts the Lakers over the top. It got aggregated over the,

this guy got like three million views off me talking about Bradley Beal. All these people coming from my neck. And here I thought you, a wise older gentleman. gentleman who likes older guys. You know, LeBron, who does he win with? Young guys? No. Old guys. I thought you would be on board. No, I may be old. I don't like old. I don't even like my age. I don't like Oklahoma City.

I like Dallas's young bigs. I like Houston's youth, even though I thought Katie was a great ad. What I don't like is three years ago when I said Milwaukee's getting old. When you get old, you struggle. first of all, you can struggle in the regular season because your older players get dinged up, take time off so you can hurt your seating. Oklahoma City's young.

They won by an average of 12.9 points per game in the regular season. Young teams get better seating. Young teams generally, and it's always a rule in football, basketball, baseball. Young players recover more quickly from injuries. So youth in the NBA with the new CBA, it's not about old stars.

That's why Free Agency died in the NBA. league now is about getting old guys on a minimum and draft and developing your players because the CBA, now all the punitive apron penalties, you can't pay multiple stars. Interesting. So you're saying the pivot from LeBron back in the day, I only want to win with old guys. Young guys don't win. The L.A. Ram saying, forget those picks. We want veterans. Are you saying that's starting to change in the NBA? Well, the CBA, I always said this. David Stern inherited an NBA that like New York, Boston,

like a lot of the big brands weren't great. So his way to redo the NBA was let's create dynasties, let's have stars in the right place. I think he leaned into that. Adam Silver inherited a different league where there were too many dynasties. He leaned into, I want Oklahoma City and Indiana to be viable. How do you do that?

Create a tough CBA where big markets can't accumulate multiple stars. This is finally Adam Silver's NBA. Our 2, Colin Wright, Romney. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick.

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