The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - The Bengals have some special players

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

Looking at the remarkable performance from Joe Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase and questions if the Bengals will ever maximize their abilities Colin looks at who would be the best fit for the Chicago Bears head coach opening The Eagles are winning, but their is some dramaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Live in Los Angeles, it's the herd wherever you may be, and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day one hour from now. Nick Wright and our herd hierarchy. The playmaker Michael Urban stops by, you know, you and I have, I think Jay Mackley, both are football first guys. We like the NBA. You love college basketball.

Both of us like soccer. I'm a UFC guy as well. I'm moving back to baseball because of the moves in the last couple of years. I don't know the baseball playoffs were hard to turn off. But I was watching last night's game, and it felt different. Cowboys Bengals, Bengals went on to win, than most games. And I'll tell you why. The reason we watch football is because we care about the outcomes.

And it's not that way for a lot of sports. in the NBA, the bottom of the NBA is so large. You end up watching games sometimes because you just want to watch like an individual star or two. You don't really care about who wins the game. And I've been saying this all season where the NFL's got to be careful. It's become so quarterback-centric and the rules are so quarterback friendly. If you don't have a great quarterback, you have not. So you don't want to become the NBA.

You want to care about the outcomes. and last night felt like an NBA game. All I care about was Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. That's the only reason I watch that game. And that's what I worry about. The NFL bottom is getting large. There's like 11 teams that are hard to watch. Burrow 33 of 44.

He's absolutely brilliant. Jamar Chase 14 catches game winner. Probably the second best receiver in the entire world. These are all-time greats, but they are stuck in a shaky organization that frankly has suboptimal ownership and a front office. They're the opposite of the Eagles. They don't take any risks.

Now, it's not the first time ever. A great quarterback has been stuck with a franchise that can't deliver for him. Andrew Luck. Carson Palmer. Same ownership in Cincinnati. Matt Stafford. Joe Burrow is similar. There is no arguing.

This is why you have to contextualize championships. The fact that he got a bad offensive. line and a lousy line backing core. I mean, that team, it's almost impossible to get a bad O line to a conference championship. He got to within a play of winning the Super Bowl. The guy is absolutely incredible. But I'm watching him last night, and I felt like I'm watching an NBA game. I'm just watching this for Burrow and Chase.

Because I think Jamar Chase is a top 10 wide receiver talent of my life. I think he's that good. I'm not saying he's Jerry Rice. He's an all-timer. I remember when he came out of college, they're like, he's not that fast. I don't know. Nobody catches him. And Burrow, what do you want to say? He's the one guy that will go into Arrowhead Stadium,

and I think gives Andy Reed and Steve Spagnola nightmares. So so much about life, especially for young people, is where you land. Mahomes got a great owner and a great coach. Josh Allen got a good owner and a good coach. And that's the difference between a conference championship and trophies. And so, like they say in real estate. location, location, location. And that's why I always say you have to contextualize championships.

Dan Marino had a great coach, never a great defense, doesn't have any. He got to the Super Bowl once. And that's why I say about John Elway. John Elway is probably the greatest prospect to ever enter the league in terms of town. I mean, it was number one. There was no question. John Elway got to Super Bowls and got humiliated.

He got beat by 45, 32, 19 points. John Elway, his, yeah, he's a talented loser in the big games. Then he got an all-time coach Mike Shanahan and Terrell Davis, back-to-back Super Bowls, retires, and he's a legend. I mean, even now, you just say the word Elway. It's like Pele. Elway, like everybody gets. It means great.

It won that for a long time. He needed the right coach. So to me, I look at Joe Burrow, and I saw a stat this morning, and this already sums it up. Burrow, here's quarterbacks that have led the league in passing touchdown, on teams with losing records in the past 50 years. Joe Montana, Drew Breeze, and Joe Burrow. And, you know, Montana was fortunate.

He had the ownership. He got the coach. But it doesn't always work that way. And this is not a referendum against Zach Taylor. But I'm just watching Burrow last night and Jamar Chase. 14 catches, game winning touchdowns. Here's Burrow after talking about his superstar receiver. He's a special player.

He continues to make plays. is after the catch for the catch any way that you get in the ball he makes plays he deserves always going to get more hasn't been paid yet i'm not sure what they're waiting for but because they're not going to pay t higgins they've already let safeties and joe mixon go i don't know what they're waiting for i think he'd have a contract in philadelphia already crazy me i think he'd have one. So the Chicago Bears, according to a popular former radio host, now a podcaster, Dan McNeil, they're down to four head coaching candidates. These are the names you're hearing. Ben Johnson, Brian Flores, Joe Brady, and Mike Rable. So now I believe that some jobs,

and I'm not just talking football, some jobs are too big for first-timers. You can't go from intern to chief resident at a hospital. You can't go from city controller to president of the United States. That's too much. There's just too many potholes and obstacles for Joe Brady or Ben Johnson. This is not the job. This is not the job for those two guys. It's too big.

It has too many moving parts, too much dysfunction. The two guys, let's first talk Brian Flores, because he's very interesting. Bit ahead coach, tremendous defensive resume, learned. under the school of Belichick, has been in a dysfunctional organization. He created some of it, and he failed, but he created a culture and a defense very quickly.

Now he's intense. He didn't get along with Tua. He's acknowledged it. He's been reflective. I wouldn't make him my first choice, but I've said all year, Brian Flores deserves a head coaching job. He's just too damn good at defense.

And he's also been willing. He's not a stubborn guy. He has gone to the podium and said, hey, man, I wish I could do the two a thing differently. And I know internet trolls want you to believe that they're perfect, but most of us make mistakes in our life all the time. Nick Saban was just talking about this the other day on TV when he took the Dolphins job and he had a couple funny lines that you just, you make mistakes, you make choices. If you're aggressive and Brian Flores is a hyper-aggressive guy.

But he deserves a second job. he is a really good coach. He would be my 1A. But my 1 would be Mike Frable because he's been a head coach for six years. He's been part of a dynasty. He got to a conference championship with Ryan Tannihill, and most of all, he is a culture changer. And I talked about this yesterday.

If you look at organizations that were really a mess, like the Chargers with Brandon Staley, the Lions forever, it wasn't just guys who were schemers. it was culture changers. Jim Harbaugh has changed the way we think about the chargers. Dan Campbell, the biting kneecap stuff, he's not a scheme expert. What he is is a culture changer. And I think that matters.

When Green Bay was looking for a coach, I'll never forget this. I got a call on Matt LaFleur. And I called around and I said, what do you know about Matt LaFleur? And the question was, well, McVeigh, Shanahan and LaFleur are tight. McVeigh's the culture guy. Handsome walks into a big, big, a lot of confidence. He's the culture changer, and he did that to the Rams literally in two weeks.

Whereas Lefleur was really good with schemes could develop into a big presence. But Green Bay wasn't a mess. Green Bay wins. They draft and develop well. What they needed is somebody to get along with Aaron Rogers. And somebody that with their draft and development program and their smart, mostly frugal, free agent signings, they didn't need somebody to blow it up. Aaron and McCarthy didn't get along.

LaFleur gets along with everybody in the league. And so it's different. Oregon is San Francisco when they hired Kyle Shannon. They had good ownership. They had some good players. They needed a scheme expert. So not every team needs the same thing. Vrable's my choice in Chicago.

He's a culture guy. He's had dysfunction in Tennessee. But I've got to tell you, Brian Flores is a strong 1A to me because I watched him go to Miami. He may have messed up the two a thing. And defensive coaches aren't always great in the offensive rooms. But I think Brable's the play here. And I think it's an easy one.

And also the Bears could have had Jim Harbaugh who wanted the job and passed on him. This organization could have already solved their cultural issues and they passed. Don't pass again. All right. We got a lot of stuff going on. Nick Wright, Heard hierarchy.

Philadelphia Eagles, you're already getting now. Philadelphia Sports Radio creates more controversies than any sports radio in the country. They already got players for the Eagles squawking and talking and disrupting.

It's kind of self-inflicted by Graham. He just popped off. Hey, let me go, can I go back to the Bears for a second? So we're hearing a lot of Belichick stuff this morning. I don't know who the Chicago guy is who's reporting this stuff. You said he's credible. How are the bears not considering Bill Belichick? What is that about? Because I think Belichick, I think Belichick's interest in Carolina tells you where he's heads at. Is that now it's about his legacy and his kids. Also, Bill's a lifetime AFC guy. You know, the Giants, that's a long time ago.

It was the Jets, no thank you, it was the Browns, it was the Patriots. I don't think he fits in Chicago. And I think there are different stages people are in their life. I think when Andy Reid went to Kansas City, he's in his 50s and he wanted to prove Philadelphia made a mistake. Bill doesn't need to prove anything at the NFL level. He's got the boat, the rings, the house, Nantucket, the new girlfriend. He doesn't need to prove anything.

College is about legacy. and I think that's a different stage. Harbaugh, by the way, he left that NFL stone unturned. He got to a Super Bowl, did not get along with Trent Balke with the 49ers in the front office. So he wanted to prove,

hey, give me an organization where I can bring all my guys in and all win you a ring that has a legitimate quarterback. So Harbaugh had something to prove because day one in San Francisco, he and Trent Balkey battled. He's like, no, no, no, I want all my guys.

And so they allowed that. So I don't think Bill has any anything to prove. I get that, but Colin, when I hear somebody, and again, I don't know who this guy is reporting this, but this idea that Joe Brady is on the Bears list and Bill Belichick is not, I hear that. I'm out. I'm out on the Bears. Forget the future, Colin. They're not going anywhere. Joe Brady? Come on. Well, I said, I don't think Brady or Ben Johnson, they are not equipped to deal with this. There's also now a reported riff between Ryan Poles, the GM, who I think is pretty good. I like him.

I think Ryan Poles is pretty good. I think, and he missed on the Chase Claypool thing, but everybody misses on receivers, okay? It's a position with a lot of drama and personality. I think Poles is pretty darn good. I like him. And I actually think the offensive line choices I like, too. I don't think this staff was equipped to make those young players better. But now Kevin Warren and Ryan Poles their story, they don't get along.

And if you watched at the press conference, it was tense and weird. Instantly the next morning it was like, what's going on there? behind the scenes. Not pretty. I think there are different times to hire different people. To me, Vrable is the clear choice for Chicago. Of those names, yeah, I would agree. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHard Radio app.

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why do you keep wasting these incredible Josh Allen games? Patrick Mahomes is 14 and 2. In his games where he's had 400 plus yards. Josh Allen's four and five. They are wasting the prime years of his life, and Sean McDermott address that criticism. We've got to do a better job around him. You've got to score 40-some points,

and even then, you're holding your breath to win, right? So, you know, sometimes if you look at it the right way and you're able to make the adjustments you have to make, sometimes this can be as hard as it is, a good reminder of what you need to do. do every week in this league and how we have to adjust as a football team. In a big picture, let's be honest, the owner of the bills is good. The GM is good.

My people love him. The quarterback's a superstar. And the coach is good. Reed and the Holmes are both great. Great. There's a difference. And so if you're going to make a move, you better have the right guy. But Sean McDermott is absolutely a very good coach.

Got to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor. And I think the bills have become a little bit like the Warriors with Mark Jackson as their head coach. Mark Jackson came in, changed the culture. It was a losing organization. Established a foundation. Got them very quickly to back-to-back winning seasons. They won 50 games, and that hadn't happened for the Warriors in a long time.

Mark Jackson and Sean McDermott are good coaches and good men. And then Steve Kerr came in, and he was just a better fit, for the offensive star. Steph Curry, who Kerr made into a superstar, all-star to a superstar. And he also got the most out of Draymond Green. So again, Mark Jackson was good, and Sean McDermott is good. Do I think if Alan would have inherited Andy Reid, do I think it's different? Yes, but there's only one Andy Reid.

So the other thing with Buffalo is, they've got to be careful here, because they've got this thing hanging over the franchise, this runner-up history. if the bills had Jim Kelly won a couple. Let's say Jim Kelly won a ring and Josh Allen won one ring. They'd have their two great quarterbacks would have rings. I don't even think you'd feel the same. It's like, oh, they'll get another one. But when you couldn't get one with Kelly and you got the most gifted quarterback in the league,

he is more gifted than Mahomes. It may be close, but he's bigger, stronger, better runner, huge arm. And you don't have any. I mean, and Jim Kelly and Josh Allen are all-time stuff, right? All-time stuff, and you got nothing to show for it. And so that game against the Rams felt like that lost, that 13 seconds to go, have a lead, lose to Kansas City. And as I said, don't take anything away from Matt Stafford. You know how I feel about Matt Stafford?

You know how everybody in the world feels about Matt Stafford. He's an all-timer too. But you looked at that game and you're like, come on, Sean, blocked punt, nine players on the field, final play. Wasting a timeout at the goal line just doesn't feel quite buttoned up. And it's like Mark Jackson was good, but it was Kerr that took the star and made him a superstar, Steph Curry. And I kind of feel like they're wasting, I mean, if they lose again in a wild shootout, it's not that they lost. It was that it was so easy for the Rams to move the ball and a block punt. guys on the field. And as Tom Brady

accurately pointed out, wasting a time out at the goal line. It didn't eventually matter, but it could have. And against the Chiefs, it could. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

All right, Colin, let's start with the big game in Pennsylvania Sunday on Fox. Steelers head to Philly to take on the Eagles. Russell Wilson, what a season he's having. One, six of his seven starts. Colin, you love him.

Tomlin loves him. Everybody loves him. Speaking to the media after their win on Sunday, Russ talked about just how good of a coach Tomlin is. I think obviously

Coach Tomlin is, you know, my opinion, the best coach in the National Football League. Maybe all of sports, in my opinion. You know, I think how he leads us, how he communicates his demeanor, you know, his passion for winning

and what it takes to win. you know, it's a special thing. It's a special thing. And I can't explain it enough to you guys, you know, how great he is as a leader and the culture here. You know, it's funny. He had Pete Carroll, Alzheimer, Sean Payton, Altimer, and Mike Tomlin. Is there any quarterback whose three coaches have all been Hall of Fame level ever? I don't think it's ever happened.

I mean, seriously, he went from Pete Carroll, Sean Peyton, and Mike Tomlin. And for the record, Sean, Don't have anything against Russell. But his view of how he needed it to work is not what Russell could do. And you're watching it with Bo Nix. And by the way, some of it was Russell own office, massive salary. Sean looked at the rebuild and thought, we can't do a massive rebuild without draft picks and with his salary.

So it wasn't that Russell Wilson was terrible and Bo Nix is great. Their numbers... I do think it's very unique that he's had those three coaches. But don't forget about Nathaniel Hackett as well. Well, that was a mess. He deserves to be mentioned. A couple numbers we got here. Steelers are underdogs.

I see four and a half on the screen, but it's going to be dropping. We're going to see some fours here. I disagree with that. I will be buying Philly at four. I just saw a report that Pickens could play this week, but Tomlin is describing him as doubtful. That's not good. That's not good. Tuesday.

They are. They're different without Pickens. There, he is a, he is the icing on the whole cake. He makes, it, it just looks and tastes better. I mean, he is really special. The Browns, you know, without pickings, it's another to attack the Eagles who are going to be really into this game. Steelers have not won in Philly since 1965. Oh, my goodness.

These two don't seem like they play that much. The link is going to be quite a season. Crazy. Next up is the 49ers, Colin. They snapped a three-game losing streak, blasting the Bears. I cannot believe I like this is a huge Thursday night game yeah 49ers they only have an

8% chance of making the playoffs two games back of the final wild card spot George Kittle is undeterred believes they can sneak into the playoffs with the right approach the message was we need to play with more of a sense of urgency

and play desperate guys just put it all out there because we have the players we have the playmakers we have the play call and we have everything to win games. But we have to do it out of desperation. When you're playing desperate and you're playing like, hey, if we don't win this game, our season potentially is over, that desperation fuels guys in different ways.

So historically, Shanahan has dominated LaFleur, though they choked away a game earlier this year. I don't know if you remember that. You said LaFleur, McVeigh. I'm sorry, McVeigh. So who do you like in this game? What is your gut instinct? Because I don't think the Rams can play a perfect football game back-to-back. I thought they were literally, you could.

go to that game, and that's as well as they played since the Super Bowl. I thought they were spectacular, special teams. Well, they had that game at Baltimore last year. Remember in the rain? But they lost that. They did lose that, yeah. So I look at it. I guess I would lean Niners here. I think I'm going to lean Niners. I don't think, I mean, at the college level, you can never get a team to play back because you got young kids, they're emotional. Even at the pro level, man, when you go back and look at that Rams game, if, you know how sometimes you'll be on a flight, and all of a sudden you go to the NFL network on the flight and they'll have like an old NFL game

and if this ever pops up in the NFL network and you're watching it a year from now you're going to watch the Rams and go how did they not win the Super Bowl that year? They were incredible. So I'm looking at the Niners' depth chart. Gorendo, the guy who's backing up Jordan Mason and McCaffrey, he left Sunday's game injured.

Their running backs as of now are someone named Patrick Taylor and Kishon Vaughn. Yeah, yeah. The Niners are as beat up as any team in the league. injury-wise. That's the breaks. So there is a world where Stafford continues to cook, and Puka Nakua has another 15 for a 200.

But he's banged up too. Puka? He's a little, he wasn't. So I, this is going to be, last week, I'll tell you, Amazon's done a good job. We have had some spectacular Thursday night games. A week ago this time, this game did not look good because people were like, oh, the Rams are going to lose to the bills. And everybody, the money was pouring in on the bears.

You know that game was at like six and it closed at three? Everybody bet the Bears. And they didn't show up, and the Niners won. So now this game matters. I guess I would lean Niners. Slightly? I think it's my slight lean. I don't.

I know. It's pizza money, if anything. That's not a game with conviction that I have. There's some better games on the board we'll get to later in the week. Final story, Colin, I'm kind of sort of obsessed with this Bill Belichick, North Carolina stuff. This story is moving quickly. A recent update this morning says Belichick has agreed to become the new, next North Carolina head coach.

However, however, it's not Rappaport or Schifter or any of these. We talked about this yesterday. This was our prediction yesterday that today there would be an announcement. You do not meet with somebody for five hours, and it's just not small talk. You're talking about structure of staff. You're talking budget. So Bill Belichick literally within five hours, and Bill's imminently qualified to dive into the structure and the details of college football. He knows how the game works. Bill came in with a folder and he came, he came with

ammo. You say a folder is more of a thick binder. They're saying it's a 400-page organizational Bible of conditions. Now, this is the only thing I don't like about this. It includes structure, payment plans, and staffing. Apparently, Belichick is unwilling to negotiate. He came to North Carolina and said, here's my 400. This is how I'm going to run your program. We're going to make an NFL factory. It's going to be awesome. But apparently he's unwilling to negotiate. So if they say, hey, page 73, we don't like this. Sorry, dude.

So let me just state this. I would not hire him. If you're North Carolina? I would not. Oh, Colin. It's easily a top 20 job. You can get a lot of good people. Carolina is a...

A lot of good people. This guy's one more super goals than any coach ever. Pretty good coach. Where is Mac Brown compared to Bill Belichick? As a college coach, Mac Brown's proven. Gosh. I mean, again, proven. Don't do this college.

Come about. I'm just telling you, Mac Brown, turn that program around. He did. He did a great job. And he came back and did a very good job. We're talking about Bill Belichick. We're talking about NFL head coach who is stubborn 70, and these are my demands. I'm just saying as a university, this is not, let me just say this. This is not the BC job.

This is not Washington State. Carolina is a well-capitalized, massive basketball lacrosse. I mean, if you look at the Sears Cup, this is a really heady group of smart people that run it. Their alumni list is not just sports, but their alumni list for academics and business achievement is very impressed. Maybe not Duke. They don't have presidents, but it's a very impressive school. Their NIL collective is not delivering. Michael Jordan is not involved, all these great.

Well, how do you know Belichick's going to do anything? Well, I mean, I don't know if Bill Belichick shows up and is like, hey, Mike, do you toss a couple hundred If you go into a negotiation, and you're not reasonably flexible. And I'm not saying Bill doesn't have some leverage here. He's Bill Belichick. But this whole, these are my demands. Well, let's hope this report is accurate. But listen, some of us are unwilling to negotiate.

You know, there's Bill Belichick. He's won a lot. You want to win? In the NFL. If I told you, two things can happen. He becomes as good as Sabin in college, or it's a complete mess and you had to choose one. Well, it's the ACC. I would lean closer to Saban. All right.

Could Belichick get North Carolina to the college football playoff within two years? Well, I mean, SMU's in it. Exactly. Yeah. I think this is that's twice a smart move. You, you know, you're giving me this binary choice. Binary choice. My take is eight coaches could if you hire the right guy. Go to SMU and hire that coach. How about Lance Leopold at Kansas? take him to Carolina. They're going to win the ACC in two years. He sure will do a good job.

Is he getting a $100 million bump in your NIL collective? Lance Leopold? There's no guarantee. There's no guarantees in life. But Bill Belichick is a big-time name, a proven winner. And if I'm in the transfer portal, I'm your guy, Miller Moss or whatever's name is from USC. Belichick? Yeah, he probably knows something about being a quarterback in the NFL.

That's what I want to be. I want to go there. And I do believe they will clean up in the transfer portal. Belichick could get them into the playoff. I would not be shocked next year. By the way, North Carolina had Sam Howell and Drake May, two NFL quarterbacks in the last like five years. By the way, Belichick couldn't stand Drake May as a prospect.

Which is weird. Not great. Not great. He can't spot offensive talent. Didn't think Drake May had it in him. Seven games into this year, we're like, yeah, Drake May is really good. Not great. You know, they're going to have a GM to control the pool. Hopefully he can control personnel.

Yeah. Instead of drafting Interior linemen and kickers. Oh, boy, you love just drilling this stuff. I got nothing against Belichick. I worshipped at the altar of Bill forever. But people are being intellectually dishonest. If you go to the Boston media, you know, Felger and Maz, my guys.

You go ask them about Belichick's personnel moves the last six years. Atrocious. What about the 15 years before that? Tom Brady had a little to do with that. Yeah, other guys were involved. Yeah, I know. Okay. Brady was kind of important.

Josh McDaniel's best OC in the game. for years sort of important. Local radio guy. He's not heavily invested. Those are the guys who wear like brown bags on their head to football games. Give me a break. And you're listening to their credible. Give me a break.

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Check the local listings for the games in your area only on five. So the Philadelphia Eagles have two holiday traditions. Number one, the Jason Kelsey Christmas album was always a thing. And number two, getting in their own way. Always drama. Philadelphia, not exactly sure why, but even when they're winning, there's drama. They're not happy unless they're grumbling and unhappy. So a Brandon Graham, a great football player, went on a radio station in Philadelphia, WIP,

and said the Jalen Hertz relationship with A.J. Brown is not the same. I don't know the whole story, but I know that one is trying to. And I mean, I led me to be a little better with how he respond to things. And they was friends before this. It's like, man, but things have changed. And I understand that because life happens. But it's the business side that we have to make sure that we don't let the personal get in the way of the business. And that's where we got to do better as right now.

Because we know it's the issue. Everybody's seeing some things. But we need to be able to talk things out as men. Now, that's about as honest as you're going to get. Everybody can backtrack. Them are honest words. Like, A.J. Brown and J.L. Hertz are not guys. They're struggling.

So the team is 10-0 when A.J. Brown plays. But he wants about 12 targets a game. He wants to look like Jamar Chase. And that's not this team. So he's valuable, but that's not this team. And clearly the Eagle staff, since the by week, has been very intentional. They're now a run first team. They pass less and run more.

They are led by Sequin Barclay. That is intentional. And they don't turn the ball over as much. And I agree with it. And I love A.J. Brown. This is not Cincinnati where they let Joe Mixen go and they have to pass. Sequan Barclay is probably right now the best running back in the league. Certainly, I mean, short list one or two and McCaffrey's healthy.

And here's the point. Okay, fine. But Nick Sariani doesn't deal with personnel. That's how he roseman, the great GM. He doesn't call plays. This is Nick Seriani's job. He's got no other job. He doesn't know.

He doesn't run. He doesn't draft. He doesn't call plays. He doesn't worry about the defensive side. What does Nick Seriani do? This is his task to make the locker room work. So, I mean, in this current structure in Philadelphia, they've taken everything away from him other than motivation and the culture. Okay, your culture's got a ding to it.

And again, Philadelphia is very unique. When teams win eight or nine straight games, it erases all the nonsense. But A.J. Brown is verbal. Now, let me just say this. Mike Tomlin with George Pickens just sat him down and said, grow up. Belichick will ship you out of town. John Harbaugh, Deontay Johnson, you're suspended. Like I've seen the, you know, Andy Reid, when Tyreek Hill was getting noisy and wanted more money, they moved Tyreek Hill out.

And said, okay, we'll start over. We're not going to build a team around Tyree Kill. It's a Mahalms, Kelsey, Chris Jones organization. We love Tyree Kill. And they went back-to-back Super Bowls moving off Tyree Cool, who wanted more money and to be the focal point. And that's okay. I get it. But this is why Nick Sariani's the coach.

He's not a personnel guy. He's not Sean Payton help reconstruct the roster. It doesn't need that. And he's not a play-calling guy. So to me, whatever wins games you go with. And I think what the Philadelphia Eagles staff and coaching group is acknowledging is Jalen Hertz is very good. But he's not Matt Stafford. He's not Mahomes.

He's not Joe Burrow or Josh Allen from the pocket. He was a second round quarterback. He can be the center piece of an offense. But he's not a guy. Greg Costell's been saying this for two years. You're not going to put him in the pocket, and he's not going to go throw to throw with Burroughs, Stafford, Mahomes. It's not what he is.

Everybody's got different gifts. Russell Wilson's a little bit like this. Everybody's got different gifts. So Philadelphia is a unique organization. I think A.J. Brown, sometimes, Sequin Barclay's on a heater. I think sometimes in life and in business, you just got to admit, like,

it's like when you're playing basketball at the Y, and somebody is red-hot. It's not your. moment. It's not your time. That's not you, J. Mack. You can say it is, but it's not. But in the end, sometimes it's somebody else's time, and this is a Sequin Barclay-led team. It should be. It's not a coach-led team, and it's not a wide receiver-led team. But what Brandon Graham was talking about, and everybody will try to diffuse it, those are real words. That's what's happening. And AJ wants the ball, and he's getting like six and a half targets. For this offense, that's

what you're going to get. Again, Cincinnati, they never run game. Jamar Chase is going to get 14 targets, but that's a whole different ballgame. So, and I will say this, I do think A.J. Brown is sensitive because in Tennessee, he wanted more targets, and they had Derek Henry. So he's like, why do I always end up with a run first offense? I got Derek Henry, I got and now I got Sequin Barclay. And he's the one receiver in the league. It's like, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase. You're watching these other receivers. Tyree Kill. They get all the attention. AJ's like, I'm as good as these guys. Well, it's just circumstance. You inherited when you got there, Derek Henry, and now at Sequin Barclay. And they just happened to be in their prime as good as

any running back in the league, not named Christian McCaffrey. So it is, there was a moment last night in the Cowboys Bengals game. And not much. drives me crazy in sports. And I understand that, like, I don't know how to work the board in the back. I don't know where all the levers mean. And I've been in radio and TV for 30 years, but I don't know every part of it. But I do know what you can say and can't say on the air. I know the FCC's words.

I know that. And as a player, I don't expect you to follow the draft, understand the cap. but you got to know the rules. And so last night, the Cowboys block a punt. But the way it works with punts, there is no partially blocked punt. If you block a punt and it goes past a line of scrimmage, it's a punt. Don't touch it. And here's the radio call from the Dallas Cowboys,

who apparently did not know the rules of the punt. All right, here's the punt by Ryan Rico. Oh, got it. Ball is blocked. Got it. Oh, no, the Cowboys touch it, the Bengals are going to have the ball. Oh, no. You can't touch it.

That did not just happen. That did just happen. So, and again, the Cowboys have, you know, an above-average special teams coach. And I understand it's a locker room full of young men, and they're getting paid, and it's exciting, and they don't know every rule. We saw this in the Super Bowl. See, I put a lot of the onus here, not on the player on the coach. I really do. And I'll give you an example.

Why? Remember the Super Bowl, Kansas City and San Francisco? And the San Francisco players didn't know of a new Super Bowl rule that had just been enacted. Is that unlike the regular season, where if you get the ball in overtime and score a touchdown, you win the game. But in the Super Bowl this year, they enacted a new rule going forward. But if you score a touchdown going forward in the Super Bowl overtime, the other team still get a touchdown. the ball. San Francisco players had no idea. Kansas City players not only had an idea, but had a game plan for it. And I love Shanahan, but that was not a good moment for him. We can bang on the

player here, and they should know. But the truth is sometimes coaches have to remind young players about some of the rules. So I'll show you another one that there's two rules in football, because this one happens very infrequently. The two things that happen every week that drive me crazy is the backwards pass. Miami does this a lot. And it's like, that's a live ball. Tennessee picks that up. That's a live ball.

That's a change of possession. When the ball is passed backwards, you've got to get it out of bounds or fall on it. And it happens every weekend. You got to know that offensive players. I saw Tyreek Hill do it a couple months ago. It drove me crazy. The other one that drives me crazy is when you have a big completion,

Plaxico Burris did this years ago, he wasn't touched, he spiked the ball. You're a live player. If you catch the ball and are not touched and go to the ground in the NFL, now college you're down. NFL, you can get up and run. So that means defensive backs.

When you're guarding somebody, they catch it and you don't touch them. You've got to go over and pat them or touch them. You don't have to tackle them. You've got to touch them. Plaxico Burris didn't know as an offensive player. Dude, you were untouched. Get up and run.

So, again, I can just lament all of these, and they do all drive me crazy. And I can just crush the players who I do think in that, you don't have to know every rule as a running back or a wide receiver. But as a running back, you have to know the backwards pass rule. And as a receiver or a DB, you have to know that if you're untouched after a catch, get up and run. You got to know that. I'm not asking wide receivers who don't play special teams to know everything. But I think a lot of times it falls on coaching. I have talked to so many players that played under Bill Belichick.

They practiced everything. Remember that Super Bowl against Seattle, the Malcolm Butler pick? I mean, they knew what was coming. Seattle's sideline was disoriented. Not New England's. Not New England's. they were ready to go. You can crush the player.

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