The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - The Chiefs find ways to win

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

Colin reacts to the Chiefs pulling off a comeback win over the Bengals and why Kansas City is starting to look like the Patriots dynasty with Tom Brady Thoughts on Caleb Williams so far this seasonSee... omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:10 Live in Los Angeles, it's the herd, wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Yesterday was one of the wilder, especially the early windows, one of the wilder Sundays that I can remember. The league sometimes just doesn't make any sense. The teams we thought were the 0-2 or 2-0. The 2-0s are 0-2. It's why the sport is so great. Steelers are on top.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Ravens, Bengals, in the cellar. What is happening? J-Mack, one hour from now where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. We'll get to Caleb Williams in five minutes. All these rookie quarterbacks are just bailing water, just trying to survive. But Kansas City does what Kansas City does better.
Starting point is 00:03:56 over that. I mean, it's like the Patriots handed the baton to Kansas City on how to win games late against rivals. Lucky Chiefs, once again, here we are. Two and O, lucky Kansas. That's the only way to describe it, Colin. That's what they said for 20 years on New England. Just lucky New England. They have officially have the Chiefs become the New England Patriots dynasty. They just figure out way to win games. You're not sure they have the better roster. They make mistakes. their star quarterback will throw an ugly pick, and in the end, they never beat themselves late. That's just like Brady and New England.
Starting point is 00:04:33 High leverage moments. You got an A-plus coach the best in the game. Belichick wasn't his prime, and so is Andy Reed. A-plus quarterback, best in the league in his prime. A-plus special teams in kicker. Defento makes a play, but it's the situational stuff that Cincinnati, bad pass interference call, Jamar Chase's blowing a gasket,
Starting point is 00:04:56 that's not what the Chiefs do. I mean, Brady would throw pick sixes in the Super Bowl, and Mahalms had, he's had multiple ugly picks this season, but it's that pass interference penalty from a young defensive back, it's losing your cool, and that's what Kansas City doesn't do. They're the old boat captain, the season mariner, able to sort of navigate choppy seas. and, you know, high leverage, late game.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I just never worry about it. The score's like, do they need one score? How much time do I have left? Now, the Bengals at O and 2 are still a good team. They're going to get better because T. Higgins is coming back. Burton, the Young receiver will get better. I think Cincinnati's really good. Not all of these O and 2 teams.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Rams may be in trouble. I don't think the Bengals are in trouble. If they met Kansas City in the playoffs, I would not be shocked. But I know who I would take to win, Kansas City. And the scariest part for everybody like J-Mack that thinks, well, it's a very lucky team. And luck comes to the prepared is that they're no longer highly dependent on Mahomes. It's the defense winning these games. I mean, Mahomes had his lowest career passing yards in a game, 151.
Starting point is 00:06:09 He had two picks. He's thrown three bad picks this year. He's had other picks that were dropped or should have been picks. Kansas City's offense, by the way, completely dried up in the fourth quarter. There was just nothing left. There was nothing to it. I mean, Travis Kelsey, outside of one big play, it was invisible. It's like the old gronk.
Starting point is 00:06:30 He was great when you needed him in January and February, but gronk because he got older, wasn't always there. So this is a crazy league. You got McVe-O-N-2 and Lamar Jackson O'N-2, and Pittsburgh can't move the ball much, and they're 2-0. But here is one thing in this nutty league that's become incredibly predictable. When the Kansas City Chiefs play one of their big rivals, wherever it is, they'll be the better team late, they'll be the better situational football team.
Starting point is 00:07:03 This league is so close. I mean, Darnold takes apart the Niners yesterday. You don't know what you're getting in this league. We thought New England was the worst team. Well, no. They were 1 in O heading against Seattle, and they gave Seattle trouble. Here's Mahomes after a very choppy performance, but nonetheless, like always with Kansas City, a W. I thought we did a lot of good things, but obviously the three turnovers just can't happen.
Starting point is 00:07:30 The first interception, I've got to find the backside linebacker, and I mean, the kid made a great play on the second pick. But I'm glad we played not as clean as we wanted to, and still found a way to win that speaks to the defense. in the full entire team. But obviously, we've got to clean up a lot of stuff on offense. They just figure out ways to stay close and win. Persevere. Situational football rules this league. That's how all these playoff games end, right?
Starting point is 00:07:57 You don't get very many blowouts in the playoffs. They all look like yesterday. Harrison Butker, big field goal. Travis Kelsey won big catch. Cincinnati makes a mistake. Cincinnati, fill in the blank. Could have been Baltimore, could have been Buffalo, could have been Miami. That's just the way these games worked out.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Now, let's talk Caleb Williams. it felt like one on 11. Caleb Williams against the Houston Texans, incredibly ferocious and hard-hitting defense. So Keenan Allen out, probably a second best receiver. Roma Dunzee's got a bad knee. The Bears' offensive line was pitiful, and Caleb Williams was either getting sacked
Starting point is 00:08:38 or about to get sacked and escaped. I mean, a lot of welcome to the NFL moments. Now, all three rookie quarterbacks are bailing water. None of them look good. They're all struggling. The rookie quarterbacks, all of them combined, the ones playing, no touchdown passes through two weeks, combined. But Caleb is taking the worst beating. And he's finding out why Chicago struggles developing quarterbacks. I mean, I saw this yesterday. So Malik Willis, who was unplayable in Tennessee as a quarterback. Goes to Green Bay
Starting point is 00:09:13 and they know how to do quarterbacks right. And Malik Willis, I'm like, that dude can play. Jordan Love, keep getting healed. We'll play Malik Willis. And that's the youngest roster in the league. Green Bay knows what they're doing with quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Lafleur, no crazy owner, no impulsive general manager. Like Green Bay just does quarterbacks well. And this was always my concern with Chicago. Caleb Williams is a great talent. Chicago didn't know what they're. doing with quarterbacks. They have no semblance of a run game.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I thought the offensive line at the end of last year looked pretty good. Brutal. Caleb Williams was pressured. Listen to this. On 36 of 48 dropbacks. He doesn't need a Superman cape. He needs a bullfighter's cape.
Starting point is 00:10:00 He's going to get gourd out here. He's just trying to survive. It's brutal. And I could hammer Caleb. I could hammer Bow Nix. I can hammer Jaden Daniels. It's a hard league. And they're all. just grabbing life preservers, trying to survive here. But, I mean, he's their leading rusher yesterday.
Starting point is 00:10:19 But this is what I worried about. Defensive coach, defensive culture. I mean, you cross your fingers that Shane Waldron knows what he's doing, but the offensive line has regressed badly. And here's the other thing. What is their offense? In four opportunities, two starts of the game and two starts in the second half. Those are your big drives, right?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Your opening drive of the game, opening drive adjustment second half. Four drives, three of them a punt. I mean, what are they offensively? And again, it's a rookie quarterback. You're not going to use as much motion. It's going to be a bit more remedial. I totally get that. I mean, you're just trying to figure things out, but the O-line's worse than last year.
Starting point is 00:11:04 The run game, non-existent. So what are they offensively? What is their philosophy offensively? What are they trying to do offensively? Malik Willis was bad last year in Tennessee. Unplayable. I watched him. And by the way, Malik Willis is sort of, didn't he get put on the Packers around like the 53-man roster time?
Starting point is 00:11:26 He got put in late. He was inserted late to Green Bay. That looks good to me. That's just what Green Bay does with quarterbacks. But the only NFL team averaging under three yards per play is the Chicago Bears. 30th in motion, remedial, rookie quarterback. Now, does Caleb absolutely need to get better? Yes, he will.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I don't worry about him. It'd be nice if Roma Dunzee didn't have a banged-up knee. It would be better if Keenan Allen was playing. I think that one matters a lot. But once again, this was my concern. Caleb's going to be fine. Jaden Daniels, Bo Nix. I think Pennix is going to be great.
Starting point is 00:12:05 J.J. McCarthy, cross your fingers on healing. But, I mean, right now, They are worse offensively is Chicago than Carolina. And we know Caleb's better than Bryce Young. Here's Caleb after. Execute the way we needed to. And, you know, we're going to keep getting better. Everything's about the response is, you know, it's week two.
Starting point is 00:12:28 It's what the guys are obviously, you know, a young guy. But I understand this is a long season. I'm understanding that it's week two, understanding that we're going to respond and, you know, just get better every day. 48 dropbacks, 36 pressures. Like, all you have to do is watch a Sam Darnold in Minnesota with Kevin O'Connell. Some people get offense. Some franchises don't.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And they don't forever. The Jets forever don't get offense. Minnesota, Dante Culpepper, Kirk Cousins, now Sam Darnold, last year, four or five quarterbacks. Minnesota always seems to figure it out offensively. Green Bay always figures it out offensively. Chicago, you know what this looks like? Justin Fields. And I think Caleb's much better than Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I think that. And I still think that. Six weeks checked back with me. So, J-Mack, I wanted to save some Jets talk. Oh. Also, I wanted to save the cowboy talk. That was fairly predictable. Not the outcome of the game, but the lack of grit by Dallas never shocks me.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I mean, if you get a good punch on Dallas in the first round, they might as well just, you know, call it a fight. Didn't that look like the Packers playoff game? Oh, it looked exactly like it. Just like they can't get any stuff. You know what was amazing about that? How many times, and let's just give the Saints credit. I mean, they've got a new office coordinator, a lot of speed deep.
Starting point is 00:13:52 But how many times did the Saints score touchdown standing up? Like, I just walked in. I mean, a screen pass, you've got to break a tackle or three. You can't have a 60-70-yard screen pass and not get touched. Like, that's just a breakdown. It's not eight-man football. here we're watching. Like at some point you're like, where are all the cowboy defenders? Yeah. By the way, did you get a Derek Carr MVP ticket in the off season when you went to Vegas?
Starting point is 00:14:17 I think you have that, what is it, 50,000 to one? He or Baker Mayfield. Basically, you're right, it's a toss-up. And runner up is Sam Darnold. That's where we are today. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I-Hard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraging. It's the enhanced games.
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Starting point is 00:18:35 iHeartRadio app search learn the hard way and listen now all right welcome back um 40 year old erin rogers said first jet win was a long time coming um i'll just i'll just say the game should not have been that close will levis and i've never seen this will levis year two young quarterback his coach appears to not only be dis he doesn't like him personally he said after week one we should just punt Yesterday, he's like, what in the blank are you doing? He doesn't like him. It's almost like the Will Levis criticism, the narcissism is rubbing the coach the wrong way, but that game should not have been that close.
Starting point is 00:19:19 If you're a Jets fan, two things you have to be honest about, because there are good losses in this league. Cincinnati loss is a good loss. At Arrowhead goes down to the end of the game, and there are bad wins. That's a bad win. Two things you've got to be honest about. Aaron Rogers is no longer an elite athlete or a mobile quarterback, which is a big disadvantage in 2024. He doesn't move.
Starting point is 00:19:41 He stays within a three to four foot radius. He can't and will not extend plays. He is an old quarterback that doesn't move. I said it last week. He's now closer to golf and Kirk Cousins than he is Kyler Murray. That's what Aaron is. He is an immobile, expensive older quarterback with a pretty ball. The second thing is this is an incredibly simplistic offense.
Starting point is 00:20:01 near the bottom in the NFL in motion. Two years under Nat Hackett, they're a bottom five team in creativity. They don't run any motion. And all the well-coached offensive teams, San Francisco, Green Bay, Detroit, Miami, KC, run a ton of motion in different sets. Their offense is remedial. It looks like 1997. There's almost no motion. Now their defense, and this is a real problem, is falling apart.
Starting point is 00:20:27 So, C.J. Mosley, J.J. Johnson. Now, Hassan Reddick, you would think Woody Johnson, the owner, the owners would just write a check and get Hassan Redick back because now your defense is falling apart. So bringing Aaron Rogers to New York was viewed as saving the offense. No, it's not going to lose you games, but it's not saving anything. They cleared a bar, which was limbo low. Last year, they were 31st in yards per play. this year, they're 19th. This is not an offense that can win by shootout.
Starting point is 00:21:04 It's not. It's very limited. One of the worst OCs in the sport, no motion, old quarterback, expensive, and not mobile. That's what you are. You're a sprained ankle from Breece Hall to being a bottom five offense. There's nothing to it here. It can't fool anybody. And now you've got an injury bug on the defensive side. So, you know, Aaron Rogers, I've said this, he seeks comfort.
Starting point is 00:21:31 He wanted comfortable. And so he brought in Nat Hackett and Alan Lazard. But that's like going into business with your high school buddies. At some point, you've got to go out of the building and get superstar players. Think about this. The first three possessions, this is with Aaron Rogers, Garrett Wilson, Brees Hall, and the O'Line's okay. Their first three possessions, those are the scripted plays. With Aaron Rogers, the scripted plays.
Starting point is 00:21:59 First three possessions. Four yards in a punt, seven yards in a punt, four yards in a punt. Go look at Minnesota, Kevin O'Connell, Sam Donald. Go look at their first three or four possessions. Usually, usually, usually the way it works is you pick up at least some yards. You win the field position game, three first downs. You get it to midfield-ish, and then you punt them deep, and you start if you don't score. you kind of get some field position.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I mean, maybe Tennessee's defense is that good. I don't know, but they have an offensive coach. And I don't see growth for the Jets offense. Why? Because growth comes with innovation. And this is not an innovative offense. So, I mean, the Saints basically have the same thing. An older quarterback, one-star running back, one-star receiver, good old line, not special. And they're, they got, what were they yesterday in the first half?
Starting point is 00:22:54 12 yards of play? I mean, the Saints are scoring standing up. Saints are they have a new offensive coordinator. If you watch the Saints, all sorts of movement. Different sets, different movement, making the defense think. So you can say what you want about the Jets. You've got to be honest here. Forget the defensive injuries.
Starting point is 00:23:11 This offense is just whatever's below vanilla, that's what it is. I just, here's Aaron on getting his first W. Yeah, it feels great. It was great. It's been a long time coming. These are kind of the games you look back. gone late in the season. You're thankful that you won these because
Starting point is 00:23:30 if you want to be a great team, we've got to win in these type environments against teams like that. Teams like that? I mean, Titans are own too. And, without being too personal, I think Will Levis
Starting point is 00:23:49 may have the worst decision-making, Gene, in the league of quarterback. His coach isn't dissatisfied, appears to resent him. And this puppy went down to the end. They had a chance to tie that puppy up. It's time.
Starting point is 00:24:06 As your honesty broker, as America's honesty broker, you've got to be honest, Jets, about what you have. A defense falling apart physically and a 1984 offense. J-Mack with a news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Let's not forget.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Titans should have beat the Bears in week one. It was like 17-3. And they were up 7-0 on the Jets going in for, 14-0-0 when Will Levis kind of... That's what I'm saying. This game, if you didn't watch the game, you're like, Jets won by a touchdown. I'm sitting there multiple times watching it going,
Starting point is 00:24:41 what is going on? And you've got to come out of the gate. You can't be four yards and punt, seven yards punt, four yards punt. The first drive of the game. You know, again, it's one thing if you're facing the Niners. Well, Monday Night Hangover, you know, and then you've got to go back on the road.
Starting point is 00:24:56 So a little excuse, a lot of penalties. but I don't know if we can show the clip with Katlin after Levis turned it over, Callahan, the coach looks at him. Oh, I know. Pulls down his headphones and says, what the bleep are you doing? I mean, it's very clear. They are, I would not be shocked if they benched him. He actually, I mean, he made Sauce Gardner look bad a couple times.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Maybe it was more Ridley, but, uh, sauce Gardner had a bad game. He's off to a rough start. Jets defense, nothing to write home about. But also struggling of the Niners, Colin. They lose for the first time this season. Listen, Minnesota kind of boxed them in. And despite having one of the best rosters in football,
Starting point is 00:25:34 a lot of errors in sloppy against the Vikings. Brock Purdy knows the team didn't execute like they're capable of. It's as simple as executing. We got the players. We got this game. We got what it takes. And it's dropping back and executing, knowing where my answers are at and getting the balls into the guy's hands and drop-stepping and getting first downs.
Starting point is 00:25:55 It's all of that. It's football, man. Just because you got really good players and good scheme doesn't mean the other teams you're going to give it to. You have to go out and earn it. We've had to learn that the first two games this season. So hopefully we can be better next week. Or maybe it was Sam Darnold. It was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Any thoughts on Brandon Ayuk's slow start to the season? You care to chime in on that? I mean, he's been, you can't get open, can't catch a ball. Go ahead. Say something. Say something to me. You know, I said before, the idea that he wasted, you know, six, seven weeks. a camp like he was going to get a better situation than the 49ers this offense this coach
Starting point is 00:26:32 go playing Carolina go play in New England see how much fun it is I mean I you waste you wasted forget wasting the team's time you wasted your time I don't get it the whole holdout that he had a year left in his contract can you imagine in any other business if you had a year left on your contract and you're demanding this this this you've earned this slow start that's on you but Percy McCaffrey this is like a real thing now You got Ian Rapidport coming out saying it could be six weeks. Shanahan's like, we don't know, we don't know. I will say, in a strange way, that's a double dose of good news.
Starting point is 00:27:09 One, McCaffrey will be fine. He's coming off back-to-back huge heavy usage years. And secondly, it gives their backup plenty of reps. I've said before, this is a Super Bowl or bust, Super Bowl winner bust team like Kansas City. having McCaffrey not have to play until like last week of October is not the worst thing in the world because they become even with all their players they become incredibly Christian McCaffrey reliant when he's there it's almost like he's an automatic six yards to just give him the ball and it's nothing against Shanahan but the truth is it's I this may be the way for McCaffrey's last several years in the league
Starting point is 00:27:49 to play him just get him ready by October because all his Shanahan's backs end up flourishing. All of them do. His dad was the same way. It's a weird thing with the chiefs and Niners. It's like, oh, they lost, they don't look good. Who cares? They're going to be in the playoffs. All that matters is health. We should probably say something nice about Brian Flores and his defense and what they've done in Minnesota for the first two weeks. I think we both believed he was a really good football coach. He had a two-issue issue. But if you go back to the Miami year where he was a head coach, by week eight of his rookie year coaching, they had an identity on special teams and defense. Brian Flores is excellent. Now, everybody's
Starting point is 00:28:25 He's always talking about who deserves a second chance. If Todd Bowles gets a second chance, and I think Todd's very capable. Brian Flores, but Todd's more likable and, you know, Todd's more laid back. Like everybody likes Todd Bulls. You know, Brian Flores can be polarizing. Yeah. But Brian Flores can coach, period.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Well, it's coach defense. We don't know about head coach. Final note, you saw the schedule on the screen there, Niners at SoFi this weekend against the Rams. I can't believe it only open seven and a half. First bet I made this week. Oh, Sanford. Puka and Cooper are out.
Starting point is 00:28:58 I don't know how the Rams. And the Niners basically got pushed around the field and humiliated. Niners will win that game, that thing, whatever they want to win. By the way, Kyler Murray looked incredible against the Rams. What do you think Purdy is going to do? And off a loss, I mean, it's a bad spot for your Rams. Well, I'm sure we'll get to the Rams eventually. Maybe we'll take the syrup or whatever you have got to take.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Next up, boy, Colin, I've never been out of Survivor this early before the Baltimore Ravens. choke away a fourth quarter league. They're up by 10 with 12 minutes left and just gag. Could not get a stop. Say this for the Raiders, though. That team has fight. Well, come on now. I think this is more about the Ravens.
Starting point is 00:29:35 They're now 0 and 2 for the first time in nine years. The last time they went 0 and 2 did not make the playoffs, I believe. Baltimore, I mean, and Lamar, nobody was good on Baltimore. I'm sorry, Harbaugh not even great. Lamar knows they've got to figure things out fast. We got to find, fine. our mojo, you know, we got to find and do what we do, because that's
Starting point is 00:29:55 not us at all. She's got to find a way to win, you know, like you said, not used to be an on-to. You just got to catch our momentum and get it started right away. So we talked about the loss of McDonald, the defensive coordinator
Starting point is 00:30:11 who's in Seattle, Colin. I don't know, they could not stop Brock Bowers, Devante Adams, and Gardner Minchew. Brock Bowers is lining up outside and beating corners. He's a problem. Brock Bowers is, you know, Kyle Pitts, we thought was going to be something. Brock Bowers already. They line them up outside and can beat corners.
Starting point is 00:30:29 But to Baltimore's defense, how do you let Gardner Minchew complete 83% of his patent? What? Gardner Minchew? And now they got the Justin Tucker kicker situation. Every kicker's banging 50-yarders like it's nothing. Tucker misses from 56. For the record, what happened in this league? It's like a layup drill.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Guys are hitting 54-yarders and the ball is three-quarters up the net. Very weird. It's crazy. And wait until we get to the passing numbers. The passing touchdowns through two weeks are like half of what they've normally been. It's weird league. I am curious. Can the Ravens turn it around?
Starting point is 00:31:01 I don't know if we have the schedule on the screen. I feel better about the... I know. Dallas this week, that's basically a pick-um. I think they're favored by one. And look at that. After that, Buffalo, Cincinnati. One of my calls this off season was a massive regression from the Ravens.
Starting point is 00:31:14 You're right. This is not a playoffs. No, you're right. It's funny. Rams Owen, two, are in trouble because they have their whole, offenses on the IR. I mean, it's a mess. Puka, offensive linemen, they get their left tackle. Yesterday they didn't have a left tackle
Starting point is 00:31:26 in the building. And the Ravens O-N-2, the defense is regressed, and the O-line is not good. Cincinnati O-N-2. I don't know. I watched them yesterday. They're big. And their tight ends are a problem for Kansas City. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:31:43 and Burton's going to get better. Cincinnati's okay. This game against Dallas next week. Who do you like? I don't know if it's game. Let's guess the line. Can I get Well, I think I just said it. Oh, you did? Ravens by one.
Starting point is 00:31:53 They're a favorite by one. Dallas coming off a big loss. No, Dallas off a humiliating loss. But you don't think this is humiliating for the Ravens? Up by 10 on the Sad Sack Raiders? Come on. That is a... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:09 That's a tough game. I don't think it's going to make the blazing five. I mean, go against Lamar? We got to talk a little Cowboys later on the show. Anyways, final story is Monday Night Football tonight. Eagles against the Falcons in Philly. However, news over the weekend, AJ Brown, hamstring injury.
Starting point is 00:32:26 He's going to miss the game. It'll be the first regular season game he's missed since joining Philly in 2022. He played in 37 straight regular season games. Line has dipped down to five and a half. Still a lot of uncertainty around Kirk Cousins and his injury. He basically, he and Aaron Rogers don't leave the pocket. Well, they can't leave the pocket.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I mean, you hike it to him. He steps up. throws. There's real limitation. I think Atlanta's going to play much better. Listen, Pittsburgh's defense in the first two weeks has discombobulated some pretty talented offenses. I mean, discombobulated Atlanta in Denver, so some of it could be this Philly offense is not even close to Pittsburgh. I think Atlanta's going to show well tonight. I don't have it. I'm not betting it, but I would take Atlanta. I know
Starting point is 00:33:15 I'm in the minority here. If Kirk Cousins can't move at all, I think I think Pittsburgh scared him a little bit. I think this defense tonight he'll face. I think Atlanta's going to show well tonight. Well, the prime time underdogs this week. I know. They both covered. Bills win outright and the underdogs had a very, very good weekend. Underdogs were great. Yeah, Packers show. Underdogs did well, but you had the Packers. I did have the Packers and the Browns, but, you know, I didn't have all of them. Not a great week for your boy. All right, J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. So it's week two, and Dallas is already Dallas.
Starting point is 00:33:55 It felt like that Green Bay game in the playoffs. I mean, a very young, smart, offensive coach, it happens to be the Saints new coordinator. Clint Kubiak took the Cowboys to the Woodshed. It honestly, it felt like a Southern California seven-on-seven drill. They kept scoring standing up. Were they wearing the red jerseys? Don't tackle them.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It was brutal. So number one, let's give the Saints credit. They've got a new offensive coordinator, and they got speed deep. They got a great running back. They're giving Derek Carr protection. This is a Saints win, not just a cowboy loss. They average 12 yards of play in the first half. And I mean guys going standing up out of bounds and standing up into the end zone.
Starting point is 00:34:42 The number two thing is no NFL team falls in love with itself after a big win like Dallas. And maybe it's the city. A lot of sequins, big hair. Dallas loves Dallas. That's okay. It's a healthy ego. Economy's always great. But nobody falls in love of themselves like Dallas.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I mean, they've branded themselves. They've branded themselves as in this counts all sports in America, as America's glamour team. But all that glamour to me feels like a lack of grit. If you hit them on the chin in the first round, it's over. And Nick Sabin at Alabama, right? Remember what he used to call hype, marketing, and glamour? Do you remember that? He called it rat poison.
Starting point is 00:35:25 He goes, all these, you know, you're on the cover of this magazine, that stuff is rat poison. It just brings you down. And that's what I feel about Dallas. I mean, think about this. In just recent memory, go back to week 15 last year against Buffalo. Remember that game? They trailed 31 to 3. Dallas trailed Buffalo 31 to 3.
Starting point is 00:35:44 They trailed Green Bay 27 to nothing. And yesterday they trailed 3513. That's like what happens to Carolina. I mean, they get blown out. They are a boxer that you hit them early. They're the opposite of Kansas City. You could knock Kansas City down in the first round, second and third, and somehow they'll get up and they'll win a decision in the 10th.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Nobody fights when they don't have their best night or afternoon like Kansas City. They just fight and fight and fight. and figure out a way to win a decision. Dallas folds. They've got no grit. I mean, listen, in the last seven games for Dallas, forget the back there, three and four. They have lost by 21, 16, and 25, two at home.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I mean, that's Carolina. I mean, that's how Carolina loses. So they are the antithesis of the chiefs, the best operation in football right now. So, yeah, and they love to. pay their stars. I always feel like even with Mahomes, you're getting a little bit of a bargain. It's a little team friendly.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Dak, top paid guy in the league. That's what I see. Here was Dak after the, is it shocking blowout loss? Last week, you guys were riding the high in Cleveland and then to have today. Is this just the way the league goes? Yeah, Mr. NFL, I'll talk about each and every week. No games are played on paper. As far as writing a high, I don't, I know I wasn't personally.
Starting point is 00:37:14 I don't think the guys in the locker room necessarily were. I mean, I talked about how much meat we left on the bone offensively. And that's simply why you can't listen to other people's opinions and read with you guys right, respectfully. I mean, yeah, you know, y'all may have put this team on a high more than we should have been. And now we just simply have got to reset. We've got to respond. Yeah, I mean, up down, up down.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Great win, embarrassing loss. It's week two. We've already figured them out. Dallas is Dallas again in week two. And that game is Baltimore. Generally, if you're humiliated, I mean a lobsided score, you play really, really well the next week, unless you're like Carolina and you're just awful. But you would think Dallas would play inspired football if I had to.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I'd probably take Dallas. But there are some consistent things in this league. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, we're Kavino and Rich. Fox Sports Radio every day, 5 to 7 p.m. Eastern. But here's the thing. We never have enough time to get to everything we want to get to.
Starting point is 00:38:25 And that's why we have a brand new podcast called Overpromised. You see, we're having so much fun in our two-hour show. We never get to everything. Honestly, because this guy is over-promising things we never have time for. Yeah, you blubber lips. Blame and me. Well, you know what? It's called Over-Promise.
Starting point is 00:38:41 You should be good at it because you've been over-promising women for a year. Well, it's a Kavino and Rich After Show, and we want you to be a part of it. We're going to be talking sports, of course, but we're also going to talk life and relationships. And if Rich and I are arguing about something or we didn't have enough time, it will continue on our after show called Overpromised.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Well, if you don't get enough, Kavino and Rich, make sure you check out Overpromised, and also uncensored, by the way. So maybe we'll go at it even a little harder. It's going to be the best after show podcast of all time. There you go. Overpromising. And remember, you could see it on YouTube, but definitely join us.
Starting point is 00:39:13 overpromised with Kavino and Rich on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,
Starting point is 00:39:59 or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for Raw, filtered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest
Starting point is 00:40:20 moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people.
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Starting point is 00:41:15 waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 was big to me not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I don't think there's a more important year for black. Black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of ton-tons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two.
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Starting point is 00:43:14 on my new podcast, Learn the Hardway. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Sunday, it's an NFL doubleheader on Fox as Sharon Hertz leads the Eagles against the Saints or other regional action. Then, in America's Game of the Week, Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:43:34 and the Ravens take on Dak and the Cowboys. Check for the games in your area only on Fox and the Foxxville. How about if Malik Willis plays again for Green Bay and faces Will Levis. So Tennessee bails on him.
Starting point is 00:43:46 He goes to Green Bay, gets great offensive coaching. That's what Green Bay does. Goes back and beats Willis, who his coach can't stand. Malik Willis Revenge game. That's a real thing this week. I mean, Green Bay is going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:43:59 The coaching, the structure, the players. He's a quarterback. Actually winning that game. game, it's pretty impressive for Greenback. Gotta be honest, pretty impressive. Insert a quarterback around the 53-man roster cuts, and all of a sudden you go beat an Indianapolis team that gave the Texans everything they could handle.
Starting point is 00:44:15 We thought you thought was going to be a playoff team. Well, listen, the Colts defense, they showed up, and they're like, we're just going to play our cover three zone. And the Packers ran for 264 yards in the first half. They just sat back. It was crazy. I don't know. Colts, they got some problems.
Starting point is 00:44:28 So between Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold, we may have to revivated. We may have to revisit the 2018 quarterback class because they're both crushing it. And I don't know how this turns out. You know I love Sam. I don't know how it turns out. But let's be clear, he ate San Francisco's defense for lunch without his number one tight end, without his number two receiver, and then his number one receiver, Justin Jefferson, got hurt.
Starting point is 00:44:56 So you saw all of Sam's best traits. He's an athlete. He's a big, strong athlete. He's tough. he'll take a shot he's got a big arm he's willing to take big swings and throw the ball down the field he had a pick but fred warner makes that pick i doubt any other linebacker in the league makes that pick and so again what does it prove how will it turn out i don't know it does prove that young people need help everybody needs help nobody does it on an island even mahomes didn't hasn't played particularly great football you need help 95 percent of the quarterbacks in this league are just not gift enough to overcome nonsense. And, you know, in New York and in Carolina, nothing but nonsense. Sam's not that talented.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Then he goes to San Francisco, and the coaches reportedly loved him. Kevin O'Connell calls Kyle Shanahan. Kyle's like, we loved him. If it wasn't for Purdy, we'd start him. And then he goes to Minnesota, again, with a competent franchise, a great offensive coach, he is crushing it. So, you know, playing quarterback in the NFL is, like, quantum mechanics. People have no idea what it is or what it takes. You just don't know until
Starting point is 00:46:07 you've done it and almost none of us could do it. And I mean almost none of it. But what you do need is a really good professor to teach you how to do it unless you're like a genius and there are not many of those or unless you're, you know, John Elway and there's not many of those. But what I saw yesterday was a quarterback that just was desperate for competency from an organization. Jets and Panthers could not deliver that. And then a sharp offensive coach who can elevate Sam's strengths and then hide his weaknesses. He can be a bit impulsive. There are times he can be, well, Carson Wentz, he can be a little reckless.
Starting point is 00:46:47 He can run into trouble, throw ugly picks in the red zone. Now, yesterday it was just Fred Warner being Fred Warner. But here is Kevin O'Connell on Darnold's Big Game. That is big-time quarterback play. All those folks out there that want some examples. of it. I think we got two weeks of some pretty tangible examples of some quarterback play from Zams Arnold. I'm really proud of them.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Yeah, it was really good. So here's week three. Remember, we looked at the schedule for Minnesota and we're like, well, middle and end, they got a shot. And I had said, I don't know where you had them, J. Mack, but I had said, if they finished fourth, this is the greatest offensive group that has
Starting point is 00:47:24 ever finished in fourth place in the National Football League, they're missing pieces and lighting up the Niners. I mean, they didn't have their number one tied end, their number two receiver and Justin Jefferson got hurt. So, congrats to Minnesota. That schedule does not get much easier for the Vikings.
Starting point is 00:47:41 But if you look at the week three schedule, Thursday, by the way, I saw the Jets Patriot line. I like the Jets on that line. I think New England's fooling people a little bit. Six and a half? Jets favorite. Now is up six and a half? Okay, that's a stay away then.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Okay. But as you look at it, now, Minnesota, my favorite number of the week, Houston goes to Minnesota. So Minnesota is off a San Francisco game where you get beat up physically, and Houston did not play well but one where you can really coach them. I think Houston goes up to Minnesota and plays finally. They're young and they make mistakes.
Starting point is 00:48:19 I think Houston beats Minnesota. A little bit of a comeback to Earth moment, but I will say this again. I know. I know you wanted to prove me wrong. on Sam Darnold, but what's interesting, Gino Smith, Derek Carr, Baker Mayfield, and Sam Darnold are not busts.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And there was a time we thought all of them were done. And they, I mean, right now if you did MVP voting, Derek Carr would lead. Donald would be two. I mean, seriously. Kyler Murray has to be in the discussion. Yeah, Kyler was...
Starting point is 00:48:54 Tyler Murray yesterday may have played the best game by an NFL player all season. Did you see Arizona versus Detroit this week? I don't think we can discount the Cardinals at this point. They open with a 17-3 lead in the open against Buffalo. And then yesterday it was like 24-3 in a heartbeat against the Rams. Detroit does not look crisp. And I have like a Ben Johnson's take.
Starting point is 00:49:16 It's probably too hot. You had a very interesting take on this, and I think you were right. There is an old saying you strike in your career. You strike when the iron's hot. So Ben Johnson was the hot coordinator on the market. Now Harbaal was the hot head coach in the market. But he was the hot offensive coordinator, guy at Houston, but he'd only been there a year. And Ben Johnson, and Ben Johnson alienated some people.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Remember, he called a team flying to the... That's right. I think it was it Washington? Yeah. Like flying somewhere, he called him mid-flight. I don't want the job. And they were flying them on a private jet. So now you look at them, and I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:49:51 The second half against the Rams, they got dominated, and they did not look. First of all, Goff was just off. The other thing is they ask Gough to throw 55 times. You're a power run team. You have the best offensive line in football. Goff, even though he's good, should be a complimentary player. He should manage the game. They're throwing the ball way too much.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And Ben Johnson, you start looking at now from the hottest coordinator to what hell's wrong with Detroit's offense. They lost their identity against the Rams. Remember, they didn't run Montgomery for like a quarter and a half. And then they're like, oh, in overtime. Oh, that's right. We have him. And then they beat the Rams. and the 55 pass attempts from golf.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Weird. I know that Tampa's secondary was banged up and they want to take advantage, but you don't need to do it that way. Just come out gunning. I think his second pass was intercepted or something, and it just snowballed. And listen, Baker Mayfield, you know, you're right. Baker Mayfield outplayed golf by a mile yesterday.
Starting point is 00:50:44 It wasn't even close. Yeah, I mean, again, if you did MVP, you'd do Derek Carwan, you'd probably do Sam 2, Baker 3. Kyler's got to be in there somewhere. And Josh Allen has been, well, Josh Allen didn't do much against Miami, but wacky season. Let me give you this number I just saw.
Starting point is 00:50:58 So passing touchdowns through two weeks. This was a passing league, right, for the last five years. So 2019 through two weeks, 105 passing touchdowns. Then it went to 110. Then 110. 105. Look at the last two years. It dipped down to 86 touchdowns passing through the first two weeks.
Starting point is 00:51:14 This season, 66. That's it. Okay, so it's interesting. I have two thoughts on that. Number one, these teams, I mean, if J.J. McCarthy didn't get hurt, he could be playing. So we're Caleb's playing, Bo Nicks playing, Jaden Daniels playing. And they're not good. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Well, they're just, they're overwhelmed by it. So we're playing a lot of young quarterbacks. I think that's part of it. And I think, to be honest with you, I don't think all the coaching's equal. I think we're more prone to fire coaches early. Insert guys in. Some of these guys coaching are not head coaches. They're really great coordinators.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not. not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:52:53 On the Look Back at a Podcast. That was a big moment for me. 84 is big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s.
Starting point is 00:53:10 84 was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford, and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok.
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