The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - The Dodgers are in trouble

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

Colin discusses the Padres taking a 2-1 lead over the Dodgers in the NLDS and why the swagger of San Diego is giving them an edge against their powerhouse rival He talks about the fallout from the Jet...s firing head coach Robert Saleh   Guest: Jordan SchultzSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:26 Massive games. All over college football. Biggest Saturday by far. And Joel Klapp will have his opinions in one hour from now. All right, Jay Mack, for the second time in three years, here are the San Diego Padres. The cocky San Diego Padres are one game away from eliminating the big payroll,
Starting point is 00:03:55 classy, classy, lead the baseball world in attendance, L.A. Dodgers. They beat them 6 to 5 last night. Dodgers essentially have had one big inning the whole series. Yeah, and a grand slam last night. That was it. Yeah, they had one big end. So here we go.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Because the Dodgers pushed Shohei Otani's salary down the road, they only rank fifth in payroll, but they're fudging the numbers. The Dodgers spent over a billion dollars just this year in free agency. Next closest in Major League Baseball was a little over $300,000. Okay, so let's not kid ourselves. This is the best team money can buy, right? Now, the Dodgers have rewarded their fans, though. They do almost everything right.
Starting point is 00:04:40 They've won the Division 11 of 12 years. It's a gorgeous, beautiful stadium environment. They're patient. They lean heavy into analytics. Patient with their manager. Their R&D is incredible. They almost never make a bad trade. all their young guys come up and flourish.
Starting point is 00:04:58 It is a really, really sharp organization. But there are two butts. But last two years, starting pitching can't stay healthy. Only one guy right now pitching in the playoffs was in their starting rotation to start the year. They can't keep people healthy. Pitchers healthy. The second thing is, the second butt, the Padres that have become their primary rival, and they're really good.
Starting point is 00:05:24 and they're young and the Padres are cocky and they're hungry and they got more swag and they're not the least bit intimidated by the Dodgers the Dodgers are you know let's be honest they're classy Otani and Betts and Freeman veterans they're classy Podres are rebels
Starting point is 00:05:45 Pro Fars taunting the fans Tatees doing hip thrusts and dancing in the outfield Mani Machado apparently threw a baseball and the Dodgers dug out. They're rebels, and they don't care. And all they care is that San Diego loves them. It may be a short drive. It's a world apart, the Dodgers and the Padres.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Through three games, one of these teams has an edge, and it's the Padres. Look at it. Now, for the record, I'm all for Major League Baseball having more personality. It's needed it for years. I grew up in the 70s, 80s. There was a ton of personality. It got muted, and the Padres are overflowing with personality. But they deliver and but they produce.
Starting point is 00:06:25 So they're good for baseball. The stadium's rocking in San Diego. The players are cocky and they're hungry. And it works. I mean, and also I do believe this massive L.A. payroll has put some pressure on this team. I mean, the Dodgers are only hitting 216 and it feels like everybody's trying to get the big home run. All these high-priced guys, everybody's just swinging for the big home run to be the hero. They're not stringing hits together.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Forget the ERA, that's over seven. In fact, the only Dodger, you know, the guy that's really hitting Teoscar Hernandez, he's the only Dodger, right? One-year contract. He's the hungry one. Comes from, I think, Seattle, he's trying to prove it. One-year contract. He's the young hungry one.
Starting point is 00:07:11 He's the guy that, like, hey, I got to prove. These guys are rich, they're great, they're Hall of Famers, but they don't have the edge of the Padres. The Padres are cocky, and young and they're rebels and they're pushing back and they don't care and they clearly in this series have an edge. The Dodgers have had one beginning. They can't string hits together. You can blame the manager. That's what they do at the end of every Dodgers season. But the truth is this organization, one of their strengths, one of their many is they have like cohesion and continuity.
Starting point is 00:07:46 They're the opposite like the New York Jets. They're patient with their minor league prospects. patient when players, pitchers get hurt. They're patient with Dave Roberts. But right now, baseball is in the urgency season. And the Padres are playing with it. The Dodgers feel like this very expensive rocket. And on launch day every year, there's malfunctions and there's clouds. And the podraiser going a thousand miles an hour with a chip on both shoulders.
Starting point is 00:08:14 They don't care. They've got an edge. They're dancing. They're taunting Dodger fans. And here's Manny Machado after. It feels great to win. You know, we got one more left and, you know, looking forward to going out there and battling tomorrow. I mean, it's a grind.
Starting point is 00:08:32 It's a grind. Baseball's a grind, so we grinded 27 outs tonight, and it was a hell of a place to play in front of this crowd. This crowd was rocking tonight and well-deserved for the city of San Diego. So, the series is not over by a long shot, but if you're watching it, there is no question. there is one team here playing very free, very loose, with an edge, with a chip, and having a lot of fun and feels no pressure. And that's down the 405 and the 5. That's not the Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:09:09 That's the Padres. Okay. Aaron Rogers' fingerprints are all over the Robert Solof firing. I presume many of you who would turn in to watch or listen to a show like this, read about it yesterday. Let's be very clear. This is Aaron Rogers having his second coach fired. Now, I'm not going to bang on him for that because Magic Johnson got a coach fired.
Starting point is 00:09:32 And John Elway got Dan Reeves fired. And Tom Brady got Bruce Ariens moved upstairs. And LeBron, I don't have time for all the LeBron pushes out the door. I counted three this morning. There may be six. And I love LeBron. So I'm not going to bang on Aaron for that. But what Aaron has become, and his whole brand now is lack of trust.
Starting point is 00:09:59 He doesn't trust the government. He doesn't trust Sala. He doesn't trust the media. He doesn't. He's like alternative. He's become like very alternative. And I understand players wanting personality, but Elway was mainstream and Brady and Manning and Mahalms. They play within his system.
Starting point is 00:10:20 They sacrifice. They don't bury their coach at the podium. I'm all for personality. I get it. Gronk and Travis Kelsey. But Grong told you, Bill, get mad at me. And he laughed about it. Aaron doesn't laugh about that stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:37 It's snark a mile long. He is not a conformist. He's anti-authority and proud of it. And I talked to Drew Breeze about this yesterday. Like, you don't have to love your head coach. But time and time and time again, it's Aaron at the podium, firing back, making sure everybody knows. He doesn't take the hit. Drew Brees had an intense coach and Sean Payton.
Starting point is 00:11:05 You watched Peyton screaming at Bo Necks this past weekend. I know Sean. I go to dinner with Sean. Sean's intense. But Drew says there's a way to handle the podium. There's probably some things that Sal has said publicly that were. were better just to be kept, you know, private. And then there were probably reactions from Aaron that he probably should have just eaten and said,
Starting point is 00:11:29 you know, hey, I'm going to go, you know, face to face with the head coach and work out whatever it is. I would always take the approach as a player that if the coach said something that even if I didn't agree with, I'm not, I'm not going to disagree with him. I'm not going to play that out in the media. I'm going to go talk to him one-on-one. you know, man-to-man player coach and come up with a solution. Yeah, Aaron doesn't do that ever under end these circumstances. He'll go passive-aggressive or direct, defend his territory, non-conformist,
Starting point is 00:12:03 Elway, Brady, Manning, you know the all-time greats, better than Aaron, understood. You can have a personality, but it's a conformist league for coaches and quarterbacks. And I know Aaron doesn't believe anything in the media, but here's some cold, hard facts. I mean, he can do his own research, going to Joe Rogan podcast and push back. But Aaron Rogers since 2022, you can Google it. Or maybe, you know, they're corrupted, too. Aaron's not very good. Two different teams.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Since 2022, he has an 88 passer rating. that's who Aaron is. A couple of games with three interceptions. Zero games throwing over 300 yards. Last two weeks, by the way, last two weeks. Just the last two weeks. Aaron's had the lowest passer rating in the NFL. The nonconformist.
Starting point is 00:13:07 It's not working. And this defensive coordinator, now head coach, former player, I'm going to go with Saul as probably a better coach. Maybe not, but I'm sure you can dispute all this stuff on a podcast, but this is what Aaron's become. I'm not going to crush him for getting a coach fire. Elway did, Magic did, LeBron's done it several times. That's not what I'm going to do here.
Starting point is 00:13:36 But what he's become is what I've been saying for the last three years. He's just not very good. He's not. Packers, Jets, there are the numbers. It's not very good. He's not as good as Kirk Cousins. That's indisputable. he's not as good as DAC.
Starting point is 00:13:51 He's not. Look up the number. Doesn't like Dak's got a lot of weapons. Not like Dak's outside of CD Lamb. What's Dak have? Kirk Cousins playing on another team with a bunch of kids. They're both better. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Joel Klatte, biggest college football weekend of the year one hour. Adam Wainwright stops by last hour. Ran into Derek Jeter in the hallway yesterday here at Fox, chatted him up. That guy looks great. This guy can play tomorrow. That looks great. And this is, this, baseball lacks one thing. And I think it would acknowledge that one thing and it's urgency.
Starting point is 00:14:28 But when you get it, it's fascinating to watch the Mets in this urgent situation. They feel like they're growing. Phillies kind of feel like they're shrinking. And the Padres have a complete, like, hey, let's go to the ballpark and have some fun with our crowd. Dodgers feel a little tight. Little tight. Do you get a sense that MLB is considering going back to a seven game series in this round? No.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Because you're watching this, you're like, geez, two losses and you're already on the brink of your season? But you know what? Baseball's always been that. Right now this morning, I think the Padres are the best team in baseball. I'm not saying they were over the year. There was a time early in the season. The Phillies looked unbeatable. But right now this second, the Padres have everything.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It reminds me of when the New York Giants and Eli Manning, they weren't the greatest team during the regular season. They lost the Patriots the final week of the regular season. Then in the playoffs, you get hot for three games and you're in the Super Bowl. And Padre's got a feel. And by the way, when you have, this is very rare, when you have great talent and no pressure, the Dodgers have taken all the pressure on the podres. They look tight. Yeah, the Dodgers are the Southern California team that's got all the money and all the pressure and leads major league baseball in attendance. The Padres are these little upstart guys down south, but by the way, have just as much talent and healthier pitching.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Listen, I know you like this Met story. If the Yankees, Phillies, and Dodgers are all down to one on the brink of their season. Let me tell you something. As great as the playoffs of Ben, Colin, that's not great. Let me tell you something. The Mets and the Padres. They're juicy and fun. That is a juicy world series.
Starting point is 00:16:08 But we've been waiting on Dodgers, Yankees for. You know who we're not mentioning the Royals? They'll probably win the whole thing. Stop. I'm telling you when you, listen, baseball lacks surgeons. But when it has it, some things become very clear. Dodgers feel a little tight. They're not stringing hits together, and the podraiser playing loose.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And it matters in these big environments. It matters in all sports. You see it in the NBA. You see Jason Tatum getting tight. You see these big stars getting tight and kind of shrinking. But a seven-game series in the NBA, you have more of a chance to rebound. You're down 02. It's not a death sentence.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I mean, I'm nervous about the Dodgers. It feels like you have. But by the way, that's great. You have to watch that game. I know. The ratings. For the next Padres Dodgers game.
Starting point is 00:16:51 They will break any records at this company for a divisional series. They'll blow it out of the water. These games are, they're intense. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.
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Starting point is 00:21:30 anonymously do the preseason NBA GM poll. It's NBA.com. There's no media interference, no fake news, no agendas. It's just NBA.com. And 83% of the GMs overwhelmingly took the Celtics to win the top. title, 83%. And they overwhelmingly, the GM's 77%
Starting point is 00:21:55 took Wemby as the player you'd start a franchise with. It should be noted. Told you. Luca already is not even the best player in his state to start a franchise with. 3%. 3%.
Starting point is 00:22:11 That could be a rounding here. I said it very early. He's much closer to Carmelow Anthony than anybody wants to admit. Never in great shape. Difficult to play with. All offense.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Embarrassing defensive effort. Tell me where I'm wrong. Luca's going to end up being, as I predicted, a much better version of Mello than anything resembling a poor man's MJ. 3%. That's it.
Starting point is 00:22:45 SGA. Got a higher percentage. This is also noteworthy. All these GMs of the only four players, only four players got votes to start a franchise with. No American-born players. None. Wemby, SGA, Yokic, and a smidge for Luca. What about Jason Tatum?
Starting point is 00:23:10 I was right on that one, too. This might as well just be a Colin was right segment. He's not even his own team's best player. The American basketball culture, my friends, is broken. AAU is a gross money grab. It's more about getting players paid than actually developing players. That's what they do in Europe. So the AAU influencers, congratulations, you won.
Starting point is 00:23:37 You got a bunch of young basketball players who really aren't winning basketball players. A lot of hype, a lot of skills, cool handles. You got them paid and made them stars, and they don't win games. And they don't influence outcomes. And they don't, it's, it's highlights and hype over chemistry and teamwork. So congratulations. Individual over us, me, over we, and Adam Silver from day one has leaned into it. It's all about creating stars.
Starting point is 00:24:10 But it's funny. The greatest star was on the Chicago Bulls, and we loved the team, not just. just Michael. That was the former commissioner, rest in peace, David Stern, who understood as you develop stars, you don't demonize college basketball, and it's not
Starting point is 00:24:33 just about the hype and the highlights. The Boston Celtics, by the way, don't have a single player. GMs voted to start a franchise, but they are easily, easily the best team
Starting point is 00:24:47 because all those really great players for the Celtics play together and cohesion and chemistry. Luca. Let's just move where Colin was right to Monday and Wednesday. Yeah, been saying it for years. Track suit Tony in the AAU basketball circuit. Just a gross money grab. Congrats on everybody getting paid, including the AAU coach.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Congrats. No American players. And by the way, this past draft, You see this past draft? J. Mack, you love the draft. This past draft? Looks like Euros. We're top of that one, too.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Thank God that kid from Duke coming up. Thank God. It's our last hope. Jemak with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Connor flag for president.
Starting point is 00:25:43 That was like, what are your funniest segments in a while? Cooper flag, my bad. Cooper flag. Yeah, yeah. Coward. I forgot how fun it is to talk NBA, dude. That was a good rant by you. I couldn't stop laughing. Is it wrong?
Starting point is 00:25:55 I'm not going to comment on it. We'll save it for another. For the record, love Yokic. Love Wembe. Love SGA. You can have Luca. That free throw merchant SGA, huh? You love him.
Starting point is 00:26:08 All right. Anyways, let's get to Mets Phillies last night. How about that Mets? The Mets are your new team of destiny, huh? You love those guys. The Mets get the win, 7-2. One win away from clinching the franchise's first NLCS-Burst, birth since 2015.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Jose Quintana is slated to start for the Mets. The Phillies will counter with Ranger Suarez. First pitch is at 508 tonight. I actually, I don't love the Mets. I like watching their fans unravel when they lose. I think they're a great story. I don't think they're a great team. They're a great story.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I really like Philadelphia. But again, the pressure's on Philadelphia. They come in as the favorite. They have Bryce Harper. They were the hottest team in the league. and so you're seeing both the Dodgers and the Phillies, these favorites, these legendary fan bases wilt a little. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I'm a Yankees fan. I don't dislike the Mets. I'm a Jets fan. I cannot stand the Giants. They're the worst. But this Mets seems kind of likable. Like you say, they've got some redeeming qualities. They don't have a Bryce Harper.
Starting point is 00:27:12 But this would be a shocker, though, if the Phillies went down, right? Oh, I think if the Phillies... Yeah, I mean, I think a Phillies... Rogers, NLCS. I mean, you're looking at six Hall of Famers. I think the Mets may be a better story than the Phillies, better late-inning team, and the Padres are just like, contrary into Major League Baseball stuffy and stoic recent history.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I can get with the Padres. But I think Mets Padres would be wild fun. Is it just me or as MLB kind of leaning into the vibe and the aura around these games? You know how college football does more crowd shots than any other sport. They focus on the fans a lot. And I'm kind of like, let's just focus on the football. But in baseball, I like those
Starting point is 00:27:57 shots that they have, the angles of the crowd and these guys with their swings and chucking the bats. To me, there is like a romance with postseason baseball. Baseball's been at about a 10 to 12 year run where TV ratings are down and relevance is down.
Starting point is 00:28:13 But what you can see is when in the big cities and the big markets and the really good teams, it is a huge local product. I mean, the Padres run that city right now because the Chargers left. So it is a... San Diego is solely a Padres City. And it's got a great park and
Starting point is 00:28:29 amazing fans, and they've put up with a lot through the years. This is their best team ever. In terms of talent, they also have the rookie of the year. So, I mean, they have young, you know, stars, you know, guys that fill out a roster but aren't stars. Dodgers are a lot
Starting point is 00:28:46 of top heavy stars. And so, we said this, A week ago, this had the makings of the greatest two-week stretch in National League playoff history in terms of like drama and cities and brands and stars. It is totally delivered. So you helped me get a dinner reservation last night. I did. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And I call up the game on my phone and I'm watching it. And I look around the restaurant and two other people had their phones out watching the game. There's a lot of interest in this Dodgers Padres series, especially out here in L.A. right now. It's phenomenal. Next up, Kansas City Chiefs. do his win. Five and O, best team in the league.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Another Super Bowl coming, right? Probably. Patrick Mahomes says, while the offense has been figuring out, the defense has really been the story. They've been playing lights out. We've won different ways. I mean, at the end of the day, our defense is playing a telloff, and I think people are starting
Starting point is 00:29:38 to come to realize that even more. And so even when we're getting these field goals, are keeping us in these games. They are, and we know it. It's okay. By the way, it was Noah's. There was only two years where the Patriots offense clearly led the defense, the Randy Moss years, no titles. Those were clearly offensively dominant,
Starting point is 00:29:57 but early and late, it was defense. I mean, Tom couldn't, Tom, outside of Edelman, the last four or five years, who did Tom trust the throw to? Wide receiver, Gronk, obviously. So, I mean, it doesn't matter. Like, what you need is the guidance, maturity, pre-snap knowledge of a Mahomes or a Brady, but if you go look at Tom's early years and Tom's late years, and that's where all the Super Bowls came from. Offense was good and efficient, but the firepower and the control of the game was often the defense
Starting point is 00:30:26 situationally overwhelming teams. Patriots rarely led the NFL in sacks, but they often led the NFL in hurries and discomfort. And so if Mahomes is not having a very good year by Mahomes standards or by any standards and they win a Super Bowl, Tom had a couple of those where he wasn't MVP. He was good. He was Tom. But
Starting point is 00:30:44 it's okay. Again, Tom did team-friendly contracts. And even though Mahomes is highly paid, he can be paid more. On the open market, he could add 40% to his contract. But Mahomes has done pretty team-friendly deals, always willing to readjust his contract. And so DAC right now makes more than an annual basis than Mahomes. And that allows Kansas City to go grab Juju Smith-Schuster again and get Hollywood Brown again. They got just enough cap space to add filler pieces for Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It is kind of, we didn't really get to talk about Monday Night Football because of the Jets. story yesterday. But this Chief's team, the scheme on offense and defense is phenomenal. Like they lose Sneed, the great cornerback, right, Colin? Yeah. And they haven't missed a beat. They've played the toughest schedule in the league on the defense is locked down. And our offense, they got nobody. They're picking up dudes off the street. Juju-Smiths Schuster. Nobody wanted him. Karim Hunt, nobody wanted him. The Rams are trying to duplicate what Kansas City did. So what the Rams started doing a couple years ago and Kansas City started doing about three years ago is we'll pay one great defensive player, but we're going to draft heavy defense
Starting point is 00:31:54 and stay very young and twitchy and fast and athletic on defense, but pay for offense. Pay for Kelsey, Tooney, Mahomes. So what the chiefs now are doing, and Brett Beach has been on this for about three or four years, we'll pay for Chris Jones. You pay for an Aaron Donald. You know, you pay for a Hutchison in Detroit. You pay for a T.J. Watt. The problem is the Steelers pay too many other players after T.J.
Starting point is 00:32:18 What you want to do is pay for the great guy in the front four, and then just keep drafting and drafting and staying young and twitchy and fast and cheap on defense. Pay for your offense, draft your defense. But you can't miss those draft picks. The Bengals have whiffed on all of them. Like the Bengals defense does not have a ton of young good dudes. The Chief's defense, they're not whiffing on these. Well, that's because Brett Beach is a seven-figure GM.
Starting point is 00:32:43 How the hell do they have the defensive coordinator who's the best in the league, Spagnolo, You know how to stop car. He stopped him. Like we talked about it, pressure up the middle. He's just blitzed all the time. They got the great Andy Reid, and then they got the GM who doesn't miss on draft picks. How does this happen? Because the chiefs have the highest paid defensive coordinator.
Starting point is 00:33:00 You get what you pay for. And the highest paid coach and one of the top highest paid quarterbacks. And I don't know, Brett Veach is probably top five or six salary. You get what you pay for in every business. The Bengals are cheap. They pay Burrow. They don't pay Zach Taylor much. they don't pay their defensive coordinator top of the market I would guess
Starting point is 00:33:19 they don't you know you get what you pay for their scouting department the chiefs pay their scouts more than the bingles play their scouts that's why they keep missing on players and the chiefs don't because the hunt families always been willing to pay they don't have to pay top dollar but the scouts for the chiefs are regarded in the NFL very highly thought of the scouts for the rams stan cronky they're highly thought of you get what you pay for finally dean spanos pays for a coach Okay, what do you know? They look really well coached. You can try to run this on a shoestring budget and get cheap.
Starting point is 00:33:52 You will always get what you pay for. Shout out to the cheats. They're having a great season. Final story is the New England Patriots, Colin. Fans have been clamoring for Drake May, and it's official. Head coach Gerard Mayo says rookie Drake May will start Sunday against the Texans. Jacoby Brissette goes to the bench. May had been taking 30% of percent of
Starting point is 00:34:15 practice reps with the starters. He's ready to go now. Third overall pick is going to get a chance to play, Colin, here it is. Drake gives us the best chance to win now and going forward. He's been getting better every single week, as I said before. At the end of training camp, he actually was trending at a very high rate. And that has continued through the early part of the season. A little surprised they didn't wait a week?
Starting point is 00:34:43 I'm surprised they didn't wait until Thanksgiving, but this is the impatient culture we have. This again, very predictable. We said Drake May would eventually play. If you look at their schedule. I mean, next week against the Jags seems like more of a layup. The Jaggs defense is not very good. He's got to
Starting point is 00:35:00 go against Hunter, Will Anderson. These guys are going to annihilate this backup Patriots offensive line. I mean, Drake May, do you know how bad the Patriots offensive line is? Like, four of the guys are hurt. I mean, they've got the worst right tackle situation in the NFL. They're on a backup center who's graded out as
Starting point is 00:35:16 the worst center in the league. There's a chance Drake May is just getting thrown to the wolves. I don't know why they're doing this now. This is not smart football with your number, what a number three overall pick, number two? Yeah, I mean, it was going to happen. I mean, where should you have done it when they face? Next week against the Jags. The Jags defense can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I know they got a couple good defensive line members. It's the Jags. They give up 35 points to everybody. Good luck to. Are you going to pick this game, by the way? I don't want to give away my secrets, but the Texans. even though they're a touchdown favorite, feel like the play.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Nico Collins officially not going to go this week. Does that worry? I mean, they couldn't do anything without them. I mean, I think it's an ugly, choppy game. I think, I mean, it's not one of the best games on the board. The number is appropriate. It's a seven-point spread. It feels like, you know, 2317.
Starting point is 00:36:07 It's on the right number, it feels like to me. Be careful, Texans going outdoors. Yeah, they're not the same team. No Joe Mixon. Christian Gonzalez. Again? Mixing up? Is he playing?
Starting point is 00:36:16 I'm waiting for him. I'm on my fantasy bench. I'm waiting for this guy. Joe Minson, he's good football player, man. They're not the same offense without him. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
Starting point is 00:36:31 The Hurd-Lie News. I'm looking at this. Who are the Jets are going to hire? According to Jeremy Fowler, Ben Johnson, Todd Munkin, and Bobby Sloick. Another coordinator. I see Sala, Adam Gays. We're going to do our coordinator?
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Starting point is 00:41:08 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Aaron Rogers saying today, he resents the insinuations. that he had anything to do with the firing. Folks, you don't have to call for a code red. You can imply it. I'll say it again. The idea that Woody Johnson on his own just walked down the hallway,
Starting point is 00:41:26 brought in security and fired Sala. Believe whatever you want. I don't care. It's your franchise, not mine. Jordan Schultz been all over this story. Fox Sports NFL Insider. All right, there's a million questions to ask. And again, what do you think Aaron Rogers?
Starting point is 00:41:45 I mean, it doesn't probably matter much. at this point beyond Aaron's reputation. And obviously he's going to be, as we said yesterday, now it comes all the framing and he's going to separate himself from all this stuff. LeBron's been doing this for years. He doesn't want his hands or fingerprints on any of this stuff. What do you think Aaron Rogers' involvement was in the firing of Robert Sala? So I was told, Colin, that Aaron was blindsided.
Starting point is 00:42:07 That was the term that was described to me. Aaron was blindsided by the news that Robert Sala was fired. And I think if you really take a full 30,000 foot view of this, Aaron's in the facility doing rehab when this happens, right? So let me just give you exactly how it went down. Monday morning, Robert Sala is preparing for Monday night like normal, as if he's going to try and win another game. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:33 They come back Tuesday morning. He's there early again with his staff, delegating, watching film, making sure that they're trying to do everything possible to write this shit. He's in his office. Woody Johnson and Christopher Johnson walked down to his office and tell Robert Sala in no uncertain terms,
Starting point is 00:42:51 you're out. It's an incredibly strange way to do business. It's not that the ownership doesn't have to speak to a GM or let someone else in the building know. It's just the right thing to do. It's not how you do business, but this is how the Jets do business.
Starting point is 00:43:07 But there are multiple reports that Sala was going to relieve Nat Hackett It essentially firing, firing Hackett, but keeping him paid, he was going to relieve him of play calling duties. And after he did that, after Word got out, he got fired immediately after. So can't I assume Hackett, whose buddies with Aaron, I mean, why is the timing so weird? It comes out of left field. Everybody's shocked, but it comes right after Sala was going to relieve Hackett of his play calling duties. Again, that's basically being fired in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:43:39 100%. And Nathaniel Hackett, for lack of a better term, is not a good offensive coordinator. We've seen that time and time again. He's not a head coach either. The problem for Robert Sala is he didn't have the relationship that Aaron has with Hackett. Now, I was told that Sala and Aaron's relationship was fine. It was certainly manageable. You heard what Aaron just said. I love Robert Sala. He's a reason why he came to New York. But Nathaniel Hackett's always going to be there if Aaron's there. The second errands there, Nathaniel Hackett's gone. But good for him. He's been able to create that relationship and obviously there's a lot of comfort. I was also told that one of the reasons that Sala was fired potentially was that he didn't have the, it didn't sit well with ownership what he said about we need to work on the cadences, right? Like one of the things that he said was after the three fall starts against the other day against Buffalo or Denver was we need to to work on the cadences. Well, we talked about this last week. Aaron's great superpower is that he is the all-time number one free play quarterback, 18 touchdowns. They only had one false start. I don't know
Starting point is 00:44:52 what was the final straw, but London did not go well. I don't think ownership loved that comment. And the bottom line is they were 20 and 36 during his tenure there. And it just never seemed to feel like they had any positive momentum. The second they took one step forward, they were two steps back and I think ownership finally made the decision after London because they realized this thing was not going anywhere good. So they keep hiring the hot coordinator, the hot assistant, Adam Gase, Robert Sala, Todd Bowles. I would go get Vrable, but I doubt they would. A real alpha, a real guy won't put up with anybody's crap, including ownership. Who are the leading candidates now in Jetsland? To that point, Colin, Rudy Johnson just said, we felt like Robert
Starting point is 00:45:39 Sala was our best option for 2024. Is that really? Like, all due respect to Robert Sala, but you had Mike Vrable, you had Bill Belichick, I know he doesn't like the Jets, you had Dan Quinn, you had Ben Johnson, you had all these great options on the table and you decide to run it back and then you
Starting point is 00:45:55 fire the guy five weeks into the season, basically blindsigning Aaron Rogers and the entire organization while circumventing Joe Douglas. This is Vintage Jets. Now, Jeff Ulrich is a very well-respected guy in that building. I didn't know full transparency.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I didn't know that he was going to be the interim coach. Now that I do know, I've asked, what does he mean to this building? The reason he's such a hot demand and why the Jets want to give him every opportunity, Colin, to win this job is go back to his tenure in San Francisco. When D'Amico Ryan, sorry, his tenure with potentially going to San Francisco, D'emico Riance leaves the Niners to becomes the Texans head coach. when that happens, the Niners wanted to bring Jeff Obrick in to be the defensive coordinator. The Jets denied that request.
Starting point is 00:46:46 They denied it because they value Jeff Obrick so much. He was also in Atlanta with Kyle Shanahan, not to mention Matt LaFleur, Mike McDaniel. He's got a lot of respect. So the Jets are hoping that this team can be salvaged. They're two and three. If they win Monday night, they're in first place. The Jets are hoping that they can salvage it and that Jeff O'Brick can be the guy if he's not obviously there's a laundry list of guys they'll go after but i i really believe that they're
Starting point is 00:47:13 in at least under the impression that jeff can win this job finally devante adams a lot of leanings a week ago to the jets where are we at with a star receiver with the raiders so i think the jets made me very clear the jets want devante adams devonty adams would love to be a jet and everyone i've talked to around the league including executives believe colin that devante adams will be a jet. There's a couple problems. The Raiders are demanding a second round pick. No team to my understanding has come even remotely close
Starting point is 00:47:46 to giving a second round pick. The Raiders also do not want to eat a significant portion of Devante's salary. The longer this goes on, and I've said this, but the longer this goes on, the less leverage the Raiders have, and a team like a Buffalo or maybe a Baltimore could swoop in
Starting point is 00:48:02 and grab him. Right now, Devante wants to be with Aaron or Derek Carr. Derek Carr's hurt in New Orleans. We don't know how long he'll be out. Maybe he's week to week. Maybe it's a little worse. New Orleans, I don't think, isn't as good a position as the Jets. I still believe Devante will be a jet, but I do think because of what happened yesterday,
Starting point is 00:48:19 this has slowed things down a little bit. But I still would say, without question, in talking to clubs and in talking to the Raiders yesterday, that the Jets are still operating with full aggression to try to get Devante Adams. This is still the guy they want. what needs to happen is the Raiders would have to either come down on the asking price of a second round pick or eat some of that salary. You know, in a strange way, getting hammered by the Buffalo Bills would create even more urgency. Because if Aaron's the guy and you're firing Sala, and you know, Hackett, I mean, Sala was going to, this like been reported, Robert Sala was going to take Hackett's basically job away.
Starting point is 00:48:59 And then suddenly he got fired. So you connect the dots, say it's coincidence, whatever. in a weird way, winning without Devante could give you a false sense of we're close. In a strange way, getting hammered by Buffalo would be like, we need more help now. Okay, Jordan Schultz, the very latest, appreciated as always dropping on late notice. Thank you. My pleasure. Thanks, Colin.
Starting point is 00:49:23 You bet. So today is going to be, I'm shocked. I'm blonde. This is how it works. I mean, LeBron's at least run three coaches off. Stars don't want to hurt their brand. They don't want their fingerprints on this stuff. I don't think it was an ordered code red.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I don't think it was a firearm. But I think, you know, I don't buy the idea that Woody called him and worried about his ankle and said, how, how, how's your Monday or how's your Sunday? I don't think that's the way it work. You were on a plane. I don't buy that. But I just keep hearing blindsided, folks, I've been in this business 30 years. I've never once been blindsided by anybody who got fired. Not one time.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Have I ever seen anybody get fired and go, ha, it's blindsided. You hear it coming. You see the smoke. There's warning signs. Nobody can keep a secret. Everybody's a rumor monger. There you go.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Hey, by the way, can we put an end to this, and it's not a knock on Jordan, because we've talked about this. This whole, like, Aaron Rogers is the best at diagnosing a defense at the line of scrimmage. Defenses have changed. The defense of coordinators are not sitting their guys static and saying, come at us.
Starting point is 00:50:36 They're constantly moving. And some of the film guys have broken down how Aaron Rogers was the one seen ghosts in London. Flores was moving his pieces around. Rogers did not anticipate them. Ends up with three interceptions. Like, this is a new NFL. I'm sorry, Aaron Rogers. The way you dominated a decade ago, it's not happening.
Starting point is 00:50:52 He doesn't like motion. Exactly. All the good quarterbacks like motion except Aaron, who's no longer potentially good. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
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