The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - The Dodgers continue to amaze

Episode Date: October 17, 2024

Colin continues to be amazed by the Dodgers dominance in the postseason despite the injuries to their starting pitching It's been a bad week for Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, and a solution isn't as si...mple as you think Colin talks about an interesting QB stat from last weekSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:07 Here we go. It is the herd. It's on a Thursday. Things in L.A. are good today. This morning live in Los Angeles, it's the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. One hour from now, Greg Kosell, if you bet, fantasy football, Just bet football, want to get smarter. Greg Kosel stops by as he always does on Thursday to break down what he is seeing objectively on film. So last night, I sat there almost J-Mack watching the Dodgers. If you really look at what has happened this year with the injuries to the staff,
Starting point is 00:03:48 they are missing a great rotation and a bullpen that are not available. This is why front offices matter. And by the way, payroll. But this is why that last night defines the Dodgers. So let's talk about that. Walker Bueller, the bullpen, Kike Hernandez, Shohei Otani, Max Muncie, everything clicked,
Starting point is 00:04:13 on the road against a very good Mets team. Remember the year Carson Wentz got hurt? The Eagles were so well-constructed. Their roster was so good that Carson Wentz was having an MVP season, gets hurt at the most crucial position, not only do they beat the Vikings 38 to 7 in the NFC championship, they beat the Patriots and they don't punt against Belichick. Remember that team so well constructed that despite losing a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:04:42 they win a Super Bowl with Nick Foles. That's what the Dodgers are. Look at what they're missing on their staff. Shohei Otani, Tyler Glassnow, Kershaw, Dustin May, Gavin Stone, Joe Kelly. If you add up what they're missing, It's 12 all-star appearances, three Sy Youngs, MVP's, multiple World Series titles. They have no business being here. It could be worse.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Their ace, Yamamoto, he got hurt. Thankfully, he's back. But last night was classic Dodgers. Walker Bueller, he has had a really rough couple years. Second inning, bases loaded. He punches out the final two batters, including the great Francisco Lindor, gets out of the inning. then the Dodgers bullpen, five stingy innings. Who are these guys?
Starting point is 00:05:30 Backing up backups. Guys, they've had to figure out, and this was the front office comes into play. These are not guys you thought you'd have to depend on. In fact, the Dodgers became, I think it's a first team all time to give you three scoreless postseason appearances. Otani's now hitting, always with men on base. Kike Hernandez, because of an injury, he's now been inserted into the lineup. He wasn't going to play this much.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So it's just remarkable to watch what the Dodgers are doing here. It's bullpen. It's Walker Bueller. It's Dave Roberts. It's an incredible front office. And this is where stability matters. This is where the R&D. This is where your minor league system.
Starting point is 00:06:14 This is where having depth matters. Yeah, you can say it's all about money. But the Yankees have had money forever. There's a lot. Atlanta's had money forever. The Dodgers have had money. forever. But in crisis, any real realtor can sell a house
Starting point is 00:06:28 when the market's hot and the interest rates are low. Any realtor can sell it. Try selling homes when the market's crashing. What you're watching with the Dodgers should not be happening. They're pitching injuries. They shouldn't be here. And let's watch Kike Hernandez and Shohey Otani.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Hits a drive, left field. Nimmo's going back. He's on the track. He's at the wall. It is gone. Kike Hernandez again. There's a towering drive down the line. Otani's broken through. It is gone. A majestic home run into the second deck.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Seven to nothing, L.A. First team in Major League history with three eight-run shutouts in a single postseason. And that is incredible. And Walker Bueller, here's a guy, Tommy John's surgery. He was this kid that comes in. to the organization, and this is what we've been talking about the last two years for the Dodgers. They can't keep pitchers healthy. I'm not blaming anybody. Nobody's healthy. I gave you the list. It's incredible. I mean, it would be like losing, you know, 70% of your offensive line,
Starting point is 00:07:47 your top two receivers, and having a chance to win a Super Bowl. I mean, even Patrick Mahomes lost his left tackle after losing his right tackle, goes to a Super Bowl, gets blown out. Even Andy Reid, Patrick Malmes, we can't solve it. How are they here? What are they doing? That's second inning for Walker Bueller. That is the stuff legends are made of. scrapping, then he gets five innings from that Dodger bullpen. It's just incredible. Here was Walker after.
Starting point is 00:08:13 It's been a long road. It's been a hard year for me, and the past couple years are hard in different ways, but being back and not being successful sucks, and you know, I think I've kind of looked to those playoffs at the end of the year. For me, I was trying to make the playoff roster first,
Starting point is 00:08:28 and now it's trying to win a big game in New York, and when the state are that big. I think for me that it makes everything else feel really small and whatever failures I had during the year are kind of gone. You know, it's amazing when you get these big payroll teams in Major League Baseball. And you can go back to the great Yankee teams with Bernie and Jeter and Pasada. And there was always a Scott Brocious that you could throw in or there was somebody that wasn't as high profile. And a lot of these great baseball teams that have all this money,
Starting point is 00:09:01 and you look at the Dodgers and they spent a billion dollars and pushed it down the road. But they have had a lot of turbulence this year, a lot of injuries to deal with. And last night was sort of the classic patchwork, make it work, bullpen, Bueller gets out of a jam. Kike Hernandez is now playing much more than he was scheduled to because of another injury. And everybody is seemingly delivering in the biggest spots. It's something to behold. Okay, so yesterday I suggested, bad, bad week.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Bad, bad week for Jerry Jones. team worst loss, home loss in Jerry Jones history as an owner dating back to 1989. And that's saying something. First year he bought the team, they were one in 15. So this past week, and they just keep getting blown out at home. It's the Saints. It's the Ravens. It's the Packers last year.
Starting point is 00:09:47 I mean, it doesn't matter. It's Detroit this weekend. And then he goes on an interview this week, and he picks on some local radio hosts in Dallas, and I should replace you guys because they're asking legitimate questions like they should. They're not house guys. They're not palm, palm waivers. they're asking the question. I mean, we're all conduits here, right?
Starting point is 00:10:05 Like media people are essentially conduits. We serve a certain purpose, whether you like us or not, and all the Dallas radio guys were doing, was being conduits to all the questions, all the fans in Dallas have about the organization, and Jerry got pissy, and now the city is all over Jerry Jones. So I suggested yesterday their biggest problem is that they don't even stack up, forget the AFC, forget the Ravens and the Bills and the Chiefs and the Texans.
Starting point is 00:10:29 They don't even stack up to San Francisco, Green Bay, Detroit. Green Bay and all their weapons? It's incredible. It's like an all-star team of young guys. None of them getting paid yet. They're all excellent. San Francisco. Hall of Famers everywhere. Detroit, San Francisco, but a younger version.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Dallas doesn't stack up. They need a big swing. Trade Micah is my suggestion. Get another first-round pick. You have two first-round picks. Go get another receiver. Go get the running back from Boise State. Give DAC help.
Starting point is 00:10:55 You're already invested in DAC. You've got to get them help and make that contract work. Forget your defense. Nobody's winning Super Bowls with defense. If that was the case, the Steelers would be stacking them in the last decade. Make your offense viable. You're already committed to DAC. Get somebody next to Zach Martin on the interior.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Go get another receiver. Get a top tied in. Go get a running back. Flood the market. Offense, pay for it, whatever. But Albert Breyer came on the show yesterday and suggested there is another way to make up ground on the Packers or the Niners or the Lions in the NFC. Bill Belichick would give them that credibility again. And Bill Belichick would probably give them the ability to manage some of these things
Starting point is 00:11:38 and make a decision on Michael Parsons, whether you trade him or sign him long term. And then go and build a middle class. They need foot soldiers. They have the big pieces, you know. And Bill Belichick's always been really good at building that part of a team. He would definitely Belichick would shore up the defense. There are pieces. but Belichick is nobody's puppet.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Charlotte Jones, Stephen Jones, Jerry Jones, Jr., multiple Joneses, too many Joneses. Too many keeping up with the Joneses. There's no way Belichick's going to be a puppet. If you go look at Belichick's draft room in New England, it was him, his dog, in a small room in Nantucket. That was the draft room. If you go and look at Dallas's draft room, it's like a Game of Thrones council meeting. It's like, yeah, that's not going to work. That's not going to work.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Big family, hey, Bill, we're going to draft a tight end, whether you like it or not. That's not going to work. And also, I don't like the idea that basically, if you think about it, what Albert Breer says, it would give them credibility. Well, it would. I'm not denying that, but so did Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells. How did it end? You can't hire a coach because he gives you credibility. You have to hire a coach who is offensively dynamized.
Starting point is 00:12:56 because that's where the league's turned, who doesn't have to control personnel and is comfortable with you running the draft. The Cowboys don't draft terribly. They have misses like everybody else. They're not a terrible draft team. I don't know if they develop guys. They tend to overpay guys, but they draft pretty well.
Starting point is 00:13:13 But the intention in the NFL is get good on offense, get your quarterback. So between Jerry and Dak, there are major roadblocks here. My take is, since you have invested in DAC, I wouldn't have spent that. But since you did, you've got to make it work. Like, you see companies do this all the time. They invest in some new technology. Apple invest.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Okay, now you've got to make it work. You have to go get a star running back. I suggested Derek Henry last year. It would cost you $8 million at the trade deadline. You wouldn't do it. You've got to get another receiver across from CD Lamb. Zach Martin's getting old. Make sure you get a top flight center.
Starting point is 00:13:50 You may have to pay for that on the market. But once you've invested in DAC, you have to make it work. You can't just hire somebody. I mean, Mike Vrable is my choice for all these openings. Last year I said, get Harbaal will be the best coach on the market. Chargers hire him. I think Vrable's the best coach in the market.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I don't know if he wants the Jets or wants the Cowboys. He's younger than Belichick. He doesn't have the need to control the personnel to the same level as Belichick. Bill would be fine. Vrable, in my opinion, the energy, the youth, working with others would be better. But if you're just hiring for you. credibility. That's not the answer. That just doesn't work. J. Mac, I've got to tell you this postseason baseball, I've said this before. Baseball playoffs are a lot like the World Cup for me. I turn it on.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Like I can just go, okay, I'm into the World Cup for three weeks. These baseball playoffs, the games haven't necessarily been close, but the story's been fascinating. I find what the Dodgers are doing. I know, I know they spend a lot of money. I mean, the pitching staff that's not available, it's insane. It is weird. I think, Three of the teams left are the highest pay rolls in baseball. Yankees, Mets, and Dodgers. It is interesting. Spend money, have success.
Starting point is 00:15:03 You know, that's kind of the recipe in baseball. Well, outside of the NFL, essentially every other league, from the WNBA to the NBA to the NBA to college football to college basketball is driven by stars and market. Like Duke basketball gets you a number. When Duke gets knocked out of the tournament, it hurts the overall number. North Carolina basketball helps the. overall number. You know, in college football, Texas plays Ohio State in the national championship. It will be the highest rated national championship since USC, Texas, which got a 22 rating, which is like an NFL playoff game rating. Once you got the big brands out and you went
Starting point is 00:15:41 Southern, it's down to 1617. So everything is based on market share or market size. So yes, the Dodgers Yankee. I don't think a subway series works. I think the Yankees, I think the Dodgers have more stars, more established stars, Otani, Freeman Betts, the more established stars for the rating. The Mets are a great story and a great team, and Lendor is amazing, but it's, it's, Dodgers Yankees feel much bigger to me. You go around the world, I know you're a big traveler, you go to airports, you're going to see Dodgers hats, probably going to see Yankee hats when you talk about baseball. Those are the two, two of the best brands, the strongest brands in Major League of
Starting point is 00:16:20 Oh, if you walk around Los Angeles, all you see is Dodger hats. You don't see Laker hats. You don't see U.S. You see Dodger hats everywhere. The Red Sox had a moment in time. You know, I always said the Yankees Red Sox is the difference between Starbucks and Dunkin' Donuts. The Red Sox are Dunkin' Donuts. Huge in New England.
Starting point is 00:16:41 The further you get away, it gets smaller. Starbucks is as big in Beijing as it is Boston as it is Boise. Wow. People are missing out on Dunkin' Donuts, which is amazing. I'm not saying which is better. But it's, I mean, the Red Sox now are not part of the discussion. They're like the cowboys. Nobody's taking them seriously for a world.
Starting point is 00:17:02 New England falling on hard times outside of the Celtics, Patriots stink. Red Sox not very good. Celtics are carrying the torch for them. They are. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.
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Starting point is 00:21:32 So the big NFL game, there's a couple of them. I think Minnesota, Detroit, feels massive, and then it's the Niners against Kansas City. And Kansas City in Mahomes and Andy Reed, they're 4-0 against Shanahan, and Kyle said, I don't care,
Starting point is 00:21:48 this game totally different. I think everyone understands. that we've lost two Super Bowls to them. So, I mean, that can give a little post-traumatic stress when you turn on the tape. But I think that's human nature. But you got to make sure you don't get caught up in that. You know, this game has nothing to do with past games. That was last year.
Starting point is 00:22:05 We're playing a really good AFC opponent. We're 500 right now. We want to stay at top of our division and get a win. I don't really, I mean, you think about that stuff going into it, but in terms of what it plays out in a game, it really has no correlation. And you try to make sure that it doesn't. So it really is interesting. I talked about this yesterday.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Think about the three teams that the Chiefs own. Shanahan and the Niners, Harbaugh and the Ravens and Lamar Jackson, and the Buffalo Bills. I mean, that's like when Tiger was dominating Mickelson and Ernie Ells, Jim Furrick. That's pretty tough guys to dominate. And that's where they are. And I feel there's a little bit of a Magic Johnson thing here with Mahomes. Like Mahomes and Magic Johnson would have been great regardless. but the fact that Magic inherited Kareem and Dr. Jerry Buss,
Starting point is 00:22:56 and then eventually he gets Pat Riley and James Worthy, and you're like, yeah, that goes from great to legend. And the fact that Mahomes, who would have been good anyway, got Andy Reed and Travis Kelsey and Spags now, and Chris Jones and the best GM Brett Veach in the league. You're going from good to great to better than great to a legend. And like Michael Jordan, and to some degree LeBron, maybe it's self-created,
Starting point is 00:23:23 but they had to kind of fight their organizations, maybe an owner here or a GM there. Like Magic and Mahomes, again, they would have been successful, but when you could take the all-time great talents and you kind of groove them in to like a private school right out of eighth grade, not a lot of turbulence. And, you know, I said this yesterday, I think the gap between Kansas City and even the best teams in this league
Starting point is 00:23:48 is big. I mean, Andy Reid off a buy is like 21 and 4. And I keep trying to convince myself, San Francisco's going to win this game. But, I mean, Patrick Mahomes, against these Niners, a stacked roster is 4-0, 34 points a game,
Starting point is 00:24:07 68% completion percentage, throws for 340 yards and a passer rating almost 105. That's against the Niners. Jay Mack with a news. No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the third line news. So the bill's made a splash move adding Amari Cooper earlier this week.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Really good smart move for the offense, like it a lot. GM Brandon Bean was happy about the team's new addition and added Buffalo is still all in and may make additional moves ahead of the November 5th trade deadline if there's something else they need or someone that can get them over the top. I don't know, Colin. I'm looking at this roster. They're in pretty damn good. shape. I don't see if there's another move they can make to enhance their level of contending
Starting point is 00:24:55 in the AFC. Buffalo? Yeah. No, I don't, I mean, Von Miller will come back, obviously. Milano should come back on D. So that's two plus defenders. They're more than good enough to win the Super Bowl. Baltimore and Buffalo and San Francisco. And I think Detroit all have the pieces to win it. I think Green Bay feels like a year away. Houston feels like a year away. Houston feels like. a year away. They're both very youthful. But they're, I mean, listen, Amari Cooper is a quiet, basically they got
Starting point is 00:25:26 him for free, productive, smart, reliable veteran. He's a wonderful piece. You're not going to get any drama with Amari Cooper. All the pieces are there for Buffalo. I mean, listen, they're good. Now, I did look at their schedule, Colin. They have games remaining against the Chiefs, Niners, and Lions.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Two of those are at home separated by a buy, which is very fortuitous for Buffalo. But I don't know, they could win 11, I don't know if they'll get the number one seed. KC being 5 and O and having a bit of an edge now, I don't know if Buffalo can get the number one seed, but if they do with that team, maybe this is the year they finally break through
Starting point is 00:26:00 and get to the Super Bowl would be interesting. Chiefs move off Tyreek Hill. When a Super Bowl, Buffalo moves off digs, get to a Super Bowl. Here's what's really interesting. Their last three weeks, they get the Patriots twice. So if they had dinged up players, that's one of the things about Buffalo. They've had some injuries over the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:26:20 You get the Jets. If the Jets are not in a playoff race, you're going to get the Patriots twice and the Jets, and you may be able to rest some of your veteran players who are dinged up. So the schedule and the roster, and I also think James Cook was out against the Jets. That kid never misses. I mean, he's always a very reliable kid.
Starting point is 00:26:39 They have now between Kincaid the tight end, the rookie receiver, Amari Cooper, and James Cook. Dawson Knox also a good tight end. He's good. The pieces, if healthy, they are not Josh Allen reliant to win. He's important. Aaron Rogers is important to the Jets. But they're not completely Superman Cape, put it on reliant.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And I think they're really good. So I know you have Casey at the top of your hierarchy. I forgot where Buffalo was, but I don't know, I'm going to be honest. Like, who has better skilled position players right now? Buffalo or Kansas City? Buffalo and more depth. They have a better healthy running. So where's Kansas City better than Buffalo other than quarterback and coach?
Starting point is 00:27:25 Well, they have the best coach and the best quarterback, arguably ever. And this is a quarterback coach league. So you can make up a lot of ground when your coach is better and your quarterback's better. I didn't think the Rams had the best roster. They had Aaron Donald, McVeigh and Stafford, and Bonn Miller Cooper Cup. But let's be honest, those games were close. Those playoff games were close. The coach, the quarterback made plays and calls.
Starting point is 00:27:47 That's the difference in these playoff games. That's the difference. Next up, this drama in Pittsburgh. Russell Wilson took first team reps in practice yesterday. Just a day after Mike Tomlin said Russ was in consideration to start against the Jets. Wilson led off the quarterback rotation during the open portion of practice. Tomlin declined to detail the snap distributions. He's withholding information, Colin.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Justin Fields, man, he spoke to the media this morning. I saw this clip on social. I put it out. you feel really bad for Russ. You can see it on his face and hear him. He said, I didn't play well enough. If I did, I don't think there would be any sort of question who should be playing. And I feel really bad for Justin Fields right now, because Colin, I'm going to be blunt.
Starting point is 00:28:30 What more could he have done to secure the job so it's not? Well, play better. Define that. That's just so general. Look at his numbers. This is the best six game stretch he's had as a pro. 66% completions, five touchdowns, one pick, 93%. pass a rating? No, I think it's the best
Starting point is 00:28:47 he's done as a pro. But if you look at the backs, the tight end, pickens, Arthur Smith, I mean, some of this is coming from Arthur Smith, who I don't think wants necessarily to make a change, but he's going to Tomlin and saying, look of the film, we're leaving a lot on the table.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I think it, maybe Arthur Smith doesn't want to be a blame for it. You know, some of these coordinators, you know, they're protecting themselves. But I look at this, and I think those are pretty good numbers. That may be as good as Justin Fields can do. And in the AFC, in that division with Burrow and Lamar, those numbers aren't good enough. And you think? No, I don't think Russell's better. So somebody must think, Mike Tomlin
Starting point is 00:29:25 must think. Yeah, I think Justin's done a nice job. And I think he's a, I heard him in a press conference this week. I heard a clip. I mean, he's like, hey, I'm not playing good enough. He is the most likable kid. He really is no ego. But I think, again, I think there are divisions where you could settle and go, you know, I told you, I thought he should go to Atlanta in that division. Baker Mayfield in that division, the NFC South feels like Mahomes. I mean, he really, but if you put Baker in a division with Burrow and Lamar now in their prime, he doesn't feel as good. So I think Justin's doing the best he can.
Starting point is 00:30:00 He's handling it like a, you know, a really good guy, but they're just trying to, it, we talked about this yesterday. They don't have a feel for offense. It's just an organization. The opposite of Green Bay, who can struggle with defense, Green Bay always gets offense. I wondered if this was gamesmanship to keep the Jets off their game. You don't know who's starting, but the amount of snaps he's taking with the first team is like,
Starting point is 00:30:21 I think this is going to be Russ. And frankly, as a Jets fan, I'm excited. And the line has moved. Jets now two and a half point favors. This is not the markets buying the Jets. This is the market selling Russell Wilson as a starter. Yeah. You're right.
Starting point is 00:30:33 That's a good point. That's a very good point. Final story is one of your favorite quarterbacks is suiting up tonight, Colin. Bo Nix. I know you love him. I like the, if I could, I'd put this in my blazing five. I like Denver tonight. Saints are beat up, really beat up, and the Saints' offensive line is not completely healthy.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And Denver, strangely, is getting an incredible pass rush. They are. They're top five in the league in sacks. But Bo Nix, your guy through six weeks. He's improved. He's gotten some wind under his belt. But Nix is not satisfied where things stand so far. I do see the progress, but I still see some that I'm leaving out there.
Starting point is 00:31:13 So it's a happy medium, a fine line of both, feeling like I am making, you know, strides. But at the same time, there's things that continue to go back and watch, you know, that I know I'm capable of doing. So it is good to see the progress in the strides, but also, you know, not where I want to be at yet. You know what, this game on the surface doesn't look, doesn't have a lot of sex appeal. but Peyton back to New Orleans, Bo Nix. Bo Nix versus Spencer Rattler feels like a spring game in the Big 12 or something. I mean, it just doesn't have the juice. That being said, Colin.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Are you watching the baseball playoffs or this? I got my men's league basketball game, but I'll be watching, obviously. I mean, I'm watching both. I have some money. I think there's some value here on Thursday at football, some props. Because a lot of guys out. You got to read the tea leaves and see who's going to catch the touchdowns. I think Spencer Rattler against a very good Denver pass rush
Starting point is 00:32:06 feels like a sloppy game. Denver wins 24-20. I don't hate that. I am surprised. Bo Nix laying points on the road? A bit of a surprise. He beat Aaron Rogers on the road. Maybe you recall.
Starting point is 00:32:20 As a seven-point underdog. Yes, he did. I don't know. Let me finally add that this is a Sean Payton back to New Orleans game. I think it's more about Peyton than it is about Knicks.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I think he's going to dial up some beauties. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. So I love college football.
Starting point is 00:32:44 It's not as big as the NFL. It's different than the NFL, but I love college football. Last weekend, I sat there 12 hours watching games and had the time of my life. I went Uber Eats twice. I didn't care. I'm just sitting at home eating all day. And college football is very regional. It's parochial.
Starting point is 00:33:04 It's tribal. very territorial, and that's kind of what makes it cool. A lot of pride in college football. But if Steve Sarkesian in Austin beats Georgia this weekend after beating Alabama last year, there is a new sheriff in town in the SEC. I test, game test. Texas looks bigger and stronger and faster than Bama and Georgia with two quarterbacks. two that can win a national championship.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Joel Klatte talked about Texas, Georgia this matchup. What's becoming more important than talent acquisition, talent retention. Getting your current players to stay in your program delivers continuity and experience. And all of that continuity and experience allows you to perform at your best in the biggest moments. and that's what we're seeing from Texas. They are owning the game, really, in the tempo of the game. And in large part, they have been able to protect their defense as well, which allows them to be the number one scoring offense in the country
Starting point is 00:34:15 and the number one scoring defense in the country. So they're a complete team. And they're dominating the SEC if they beat Georgia. Never forget the SEC is overwhelmingly small towns and small economies where the local car dealer is a big deal. Texas is different. Here are companies headquartered in Austin.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Tesla, IBM, Dell, Oracle, Whole Foods. Companies with hubs in Austin, Apple, Meta, Google, Home Depot, and Target. They're south by Southwest. Formula One racing's happening this weekend.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Oh, there's Diolipa right there. Eminem's in town this week, by the way. You don't get a lot of Ferraris in Starck's Mississippi. It is a totally different economy, and the SEC and the local car dealer in Tuscaloosa cannot compete. They will buy the best players with NIL. And if you watch them against Georgia, they got more big dudes. And Ohio State, it should be noted, went to Eugene this weekend. And I hate to break it to the Big Ten fans, but the toughest players, but the toughest play
Starting point is 00:35:32 to win now is not Columbus or Ann Arbor. It's in Eugene. It is the loudest stadium and the newest loud stadium in the Big Ten. And what Ohio State discovered this weekend, Nike money hits a lot harder than Rutgers money. Oregon and Phil Knight and Nike. Steve Sarkeesian, the Texas, Austin, Texas, massive economy. They're taking over their conferences. and this is not ending.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Phil Knight has made it a mandate. We're winning a national championship. And have you been around, Austin? Go this weekend. You know where Georgia fans are staying? An hour and a half out of town. It's the new SEC. I would be surprised if they didn't beat Georgia.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I watched them push Alabama around. I think they'll do the same this weekend. Georgia can compete. They've got an NFL quarterback. They've got a very good coach. But the economies of Oregon and Texas football, you can argue, top two in the sport. It's not Georgia's N.I.L. It's not Alabama's. No, it's Phil Knight, it's Nike, it's Dell, it's IBM, it's Austin, it's music festivals, it's superstars, more than just college football.
Starting point is 00:36:59 bigger economies, broader economies, and it's changing the sport, and I am here for it. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app,
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Starting point is 00:39:29 Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but yeah, yeah, literally. But just so you all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now.
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Starting point is 00:41:21 It all begins at 730 Eastern on. It's interesting. We were just talking about this. Kike Hernandez was on the Dodger playoff roster, but wasn't going to play much. And then Ross gets hurt, and then they insert him in. And it's not like he's just been a replacement. He's been substantial. So it's, I mean, you got, there was a guy pitching a late inning yesterday.
Starting point is 00:41:46 We hadn't heard of. It's like, it's just the Dodgers, yes, they have big payroll, but you can reduce a lot of it because it's on the shelf. And they shut out a really good Mets team who had been on fire. I mean, the Mets beat Philadelphia. a team that early in the season, many thought would win the World Series. So Sean Payton, it's homecoming tonight. He goes back to New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:42:05 One of the toughest places generally in the NFL to play. So Sean Payton's going to come out tonight and flex and be clever with Bo Nix. But something happened, and this has really been a trend. So last week I had said before my Blazing Five, I think you see this is the separation of the NFL. It's like week five and week six. Best quarterbacks win games. Everybody's got film. defensive players get hurt more than offensive players do generally.
Starting point is 00:42:30 It's the more violent side of the ball. So defenses, they're not as good. Your best pass rusher, like Detroit gets hurt. Defenses get banged up, and it really becomes about your coach, your offensive coordinator, the healthier O line, and your quarterback. And so last week, I don't remember this ever being true. It may have been, but last week, the best quarterback went 14 and 0. That's unheard of.
Starting point is 00:42:55 There's always an upset. So I said this week, if you go to every game, including tonight, the best quarterback's not going to win every game this week. I mean, you got Herbert, Kyler, Murray. They're both good. You're going to get a couple of those, Goff and Darnold. But let's just pick the best quarterback in the game and see how it does this week. So here's the quarterback, Collins face off. So let's start tonight, Bo Nix and Spencer Rattler.
Starting point is 00:43:19 So I would take Bo Nix in Denver in his last four starts, seven total touchdowns and one turnover. So tonight, I would go Bo Nix. And then we have Drake May. I mean, do you want to go in order? So next after that is Drake May and Trevor Lawrence. Well, Trevor Lawrence is better than Drake May. Trevor Lawrence, over his last three starts, he does have a passer rating in the hundreds. Then it's Gino Smith and Cousins.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I would go Kirk Cousins. I don't think there's any question more reliable. Then it's Will Levis and Josh Allen. We're not going to spend a lot of time arguing about that one. I'm going to take Josh Allen there. By the way, Josh Allen's the only starting quarterback in the league without an interception. That's pretty crazy. 13 TDs, no picks.
Starting point is 00:44:08 So then it gets a little harder. Well, Burrow and Watson, Burrow leads the NFL in passer rating. So that's not a terribly difficult one. One of the tougher ones is Jordan Love and C.J. Stroud. So I'm going to take Jordan Love because C.J. Stroud has gotten into a little bit of a turnover issue. He has Joe Mixing back, but when he didn't and the run game struggled, I would take him. I'm going to take Anthony Richardson over whoever's starting Huntley for the Miami Dolphins. Anthony Richardson has a huge arm.
Starting point is 00:44:36 He does lead the NFL in yards per completion, which I would have never guessed, but he's a big play player, so I would take him. Gough and Darnold. Gough's the better quarterback than Darnold. Darnold last couple of weeks, little, little reckless. That's what he does. So I would take him. get into a Jalen Hertz and Daniel Jones. Hertz over the last couple games, despite Nick Siriani's got a quarterback pass
Starting point is 00:45:00 a raining up about 104, so I would absolutely take Jalen Hertz. I don't think we need to spend a lot of time on Matt Stafford against Aiden O'Connell. Aiden O'Connell 11 games has a losing record. That's an easy one. I think that's my bet of the week. I'll take the L.A. Rams right there. Andy Dalton and Jaden Daniels, again, I don't think that's terribly close. Over the last six games, Andy Dalton has infused some life into Carolina.
Starting point is 00:45:22 He's 1 in 5 in his last six starts. Not terribly difficult. Mahomes in Purdy, I know this is difficult for J-Mack. Mahomes, a better quarterback. You know, and he'll probably win this game. And then we go up to Aaron Rogers, Russell Wilson. I'm going to go with Aaron Rogers. He's getting Devonte Adams.
Starting point is 00:45:40 He has Garrett Wilson. I think they're going to win this week. It's one of my second favorite bet. Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield. Baker's had a hell of a year, but 14 of his 15 touchdown passes are in the pocket. Lamar's good from the pocket and is the most exciting, versatile, twitchy athletic quarterback in the league. So again, not a knock on Baker, but Lamar's the better quarterback.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Kyler Murray and Justin Herbert. Herbert has six TDs in a pick under Jim Harbaugh in a good run game. I think that's a go-either-way game. I just, I can't trust Kyler Murray. I think he's a remarkable talent. I kind of think I know what I get when Justin Herbert's healthy. So if you go, so J-Mack, look at all these picks. So we go, let's go again.
Starting point is 00:46:20 We go Bow-Nicks. Trevor Lawrence, Kirk Cousins, Josh Allen, Jared Gough, Mahomes, Burrow, Jordan Love, Anthony Richardson, Jalen, Hurt, Stafford, Jaden, Daniels, Mahomes, Aaron, Lamar, Herbert. Tell me where I'm wrong. Give me one where I'm wrong, like you like the other team. I need a clarification. Well, I'll tell you where I'm wrong. You say, take the best quarterback. Is that career or this year, six games, just what they've done this year? Yeah, I mean, right now today, who's the best quarterback? Okay, well, Brock Purdy should be the pickover Patrick Mahomes. This year he's been better than Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:46:53 By every measure that matters, every advanced stat. We don't do stats all the time. There are certain stats. Nobody thinks that's better. Okay. Stats are fantasy nerd guy. I get it. He has a value in the system. But not a single person on the planet or GM would say, you know, I don't need Mahomes. I'm going to do Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Okay. So he's better quarterback. Fair enough. There are numbers that matter. Like Josh Allen, 13 TV's no picks. That's a number. he's really gotten the reckless out of his game. I'll tell you the toughest one.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Here's where one's going to lose. Jordan Love, C.J. Stroud, is the toughest one. Jordan Love right now is a more complete quarterback. He's much more athletic on the perimeter. Huh. Here's the one. So I'll tell you where I'm going to be wrong. My second or third favorite bet is Minnesota beating Detroit.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Detroit's off a huge win over the Cowboys. You get an offensive coach off a bye. So Darnold, I think, will beat Detroit. Hutchison's out, so Darnold's going to have more time to throw. So that's one with a better quarterback, Goff, and I think Goff is less reckless. So this year, you think Goff has definitely been better than Darnell? He went 18 for 18 in the game. Against Seattle.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Come on. Who doesn't make... Daniel Jones had a good game against Seattle. It's the NFL. You go 18 for 18. No quarterback in the history of the league had done 18 for 18. To me, that's a coin flip just this year. Yes, obviously Goff has been better.
Starting point is 00:48:13 I will say this. I think that Darnold, people now have the film with he and Kevin O'Connell, the slight regression with Sam Darnold. First couple of weeks, there's some surprises and elements, but Sam is very Carson Wentz. He gets banged up, and he can be a little reckless, and I think you're starting to see it. I think they're going to win 12 games, but I do think Jared Goff, everybody has film on him. He still doesn't throw interceptions.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I mean, even Mahalms throws picks this year. Against his pressure from Brian Flores, we'll see. By the way, you want to have fun with something. See, if the Vikings win this game, Colin, look at their next like five games. Oh, no, it's double use. You look at it maybe 10, 11 and 0 for the Vikings, if they are able to win this game? Listen, I didn't mean to rattle you with the Brock Purdy v. Mahomes thing. But I do just want to say, you can say all this great stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Mahomes is potentially the goat. But this year, he has not been great. You admitted yesterday they have weaker skill position players than most of the contenders. Buffalo has better-skilled position guys. Baltimore. I mean, Sanfrey doesn't even have Christian McCaffrey. Jordan Mason. I don't know if he plays.
Starting point is 00:49:21 And there were times Tiger Woods wasn't hitting his irons great, but he was still great off the tea and great around the greens. And so it's one of those things. I can't believe this. Is this game in Blazum 5 for you? By the way, Niners Chiefs? I will not bet against Andy. I'm texting the guys right now.
Starting point is 00:49:37 We're doing, this is going to be. This little discussion cemented it. That's not a reason to bet. You're mad at me is not a red. I'm not mad. That's like Jerry Jones. I'm just the logic, the logical leaps of Patrick Mahomes, obviously. Listen.
Starting point is 00:49:55 In his prime, Kobe had awful games. But it's not, we're talking about six games now. And we're seeing the weapons that Mahomes doesn't have. I'm going to take. No, no rights. By the way, you think Juju Smith-Schuster's going off for a buck and change this weekend against the Niners? Do you think that's happening? Kareem Hunt, you think he's going for 120?
Starting point is 00:50:13 I don't know where Mahomis. Holmes goes with the football this weekend. What's Travis Kelsey doing this week? Yeah, I don't know where he's going with the ball every weekend, but he keeps winning, 11 straight. Yeah, he keeps winning. It's funny how that works.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Good coach, great defensive coordinator. Again, you're asking me, Tiger Woods in his prime. Little under the weather, hip hurts, U.S. Open. I'll take Tiger. That's a good pick. It's prime. Yeah, I mean, this, Mahomes, Andy Reed,
Starting point is 00:50:42 Travis Kelsey, Chris Jones, Spags. I'm going to take them. Okay. I'm going to take them. All right, Greg Coasell hour two and a Thursday. Next. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for Answer. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Cliver Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard,
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