The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - The Jets never seem to change

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

Colin is hardly surprised the Jets are facing another contract issue with star pass rusher Haason Reddick because the Jets front office always finds themselves in a problematic situation Why on Earth did the Red Sox trade Mookie Betts? Colin gives his thoughts on the new book about Aaron RodgersSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mark Few, back from Paris and the Olympics, assistant coach for our gold medal winning, team stops by. J-MAC is back in tow today. The show yesterday, last hour, the Jets, Hassan Redick situation is now more inflamed. They made a move for him. He held out. Five million in fines. Now he says he wants to be traded. So I was thinking about this, driving in this morning.

And how to position, you know, this story. And I thought so much for people, for businesses, for life, so much of what we do is not about our actions. It's about how we handle bad days. Our reactions. Everybody has bad days. Michael Jordan had bad games, bad days. People get divorced. They go into bankruptcy.

Good people. They get, you know, they're scammers everywhere. How do you react to it? How long are your dips? And I can remember my dad saying years ago, like recessions are garage sales for the prepared. Like how long is the dip? Don't live up, you know, you don't need a fourth jet ski, a third house and a sixth car. Be ready for the dips from our economy.

And so the story comes out for the Jets about Hassan Reddick. And the downside for the Jets is it's not the distraction. Every team has distractions. It's that he's actually a really good player in a place of need because Bryce Huff, who led them with 10 sacks last year and was their highest-guided pass-rusher, according to PFF, went to the Eagles. So they need a pass-rusher. It's not the distraction necessarily. It's his talent, his skill, his ability. He plugs a hole.

And the Jets have never been good with the dips. This team has very thin margins. Garrett Wilson's, their only great receiver. Mike Williams can't stay healthy. Love him, but he can't stay healthy. Their offensive line, Tyron Smith, never gives you full season. Elijah Vera Tucker, I like him, hurt a lot. So their margins, they are one receiver injury and one running back ankle twist from having issues,

and now they've lost their best pass rusher, and the guy they brought in wants to be traded. So their margins are thin. But it's okay, this stuff happens to everybody. But I'll give you an example of people that are prepared. the chiefs have had to rebuild their O-line, their defense, and their wide receiver room, and yet they end up in Super Bowls and win them. The L.A. Rams have had massive coaching turnover. McVeigh's lost four coordinators.

They have a different defensive coordinator every other year. Aaron Donald now leaves. Andrew Whitworth leaves. Matt Stafford's been hurt. Cooper Cup is out. Seven years, McVeigh, five playoffs, two trips to the Super Bowl. They draft well. Their dips are brief.

The Ravens have lost great coaches. They've missed on draft picks. Lamar's been hurt. They've lost people to free agency. And the Ravens are always in the Super Bowl bubble. Philadelphia. Signed Carson went to a huge deal. Then they moved off him.

They won a Super Bowl with Nick Foles. Doug Peterson, they move off him. They hire Nick Seriani. They get to another Super Bowl. Everybody in life has dips. Action is about 50% of life. The other 50 is reaction. How do you handle the dips?

The Jets don't handle them well. So it's not just that their GM missed on a left tackle and a quarterback, because he's hit on like eight to ten players. But those are ones you can't miss on, especially over a three-year period. Their head coach, he's had public snafus calling out Aaron Rogers, why are you going there? And if you've had public snafus, you've probably done stuff behind the scenes that's not great either in meetings or in, you know, conversations. So it's not that the Jets necessarily make more bad moves than everybody else, but they're not

good with the dips. The Rams were supposed to be in a rebuild. They were a playaway from the NFC championship last year with an incredibly young roster. Aaron Rogers leaves the Green Bay Packers. A year later, they're better. Everybody's losing star quarterbacks. Everybody's dealing with injuries. Everybody's losing a great coordinator.

everybody's got to hold out. Everybody loses a great pass rusher. It's not that the Jets have more crap going on, but they don't know what to do with it. They don't react well. I mean, a prime example is they have, and because they don't have any, like, real identity, they let Aaron Rogers come in,

and Aaron's like, I want Nat Hackett. No. No. Jets hire Nat Hackett. Now they're bailing water to get another coordinator to run the clock or call plays for their offensive coordinator. So when you don't have an identity, which the Jets don't, impulsive owners, their identity,

that you're willing to be pushed around by a star player. I want Alan Lazzard. I want Nat Hackett. How's that worked out? So the distraction here is not the big issue. They literally lost their best pass rusher, and they need this pass rusher, and they don't come across as very organized in the process.

and they are, I mean, you can go look at Philadelphia, Rams, Chiefs, Rang, 49ers. 49ers draft Trey Lance. Whiff. Oh, my. Boom, Brock Purdy got it solved. Brandon I, you, draft two receivers. Trent Williams hurt. Okay, they didn't overcome that one.

But that's the difference is the Raiders and the Jets and historically the Bears. And everybody's losing. everybody's got bad days. I mean, good God, the Packers lost Farrv and Aaron Rogers. They were in a year, you're like, yeah, they may be better. They're organized. They have an identity. They have a plan.

The dips in life. Everybody has them. Efficient, smart people. They're very brief. And with the jets, they never are. All right. So the two worst trades in Major League Baseball history, both belong to the Red Sox. They gave up Babe Ruth, and they gave up Mookie Betts.

And you think, oh, I'm being hyperbolic here. Mookie Betts has been gone for two months. The kid's incredible. In their prime, in his prime, the Red Sox are like, we're going to move him to the Dodgers. Yeah, you'll need a search party to find the players they traded for him because only one guy they got for Mookie Betts still remains with the Red Sox. Don't need a lot of sleuthing. One guy's left.

Mookiee returned last night, and here's his second at bat. This is blasted. Left field in deep. On the track, at the wall. Mookie Bets. A two-run homer for Mookie Bets. The Dodgers strike first in Milwaukee. Who needs a rehab assignment?

Not Mookie. Well, there's a rule in business. Never let Great walk out of the door. And in the six months after they signed Mookie Bets, six months later the Dodgers signed Mookie Bats. Six months later, the Dodger signed him to a 12-year extension. They knew what they had. Probably the best player in baseball.

He'll play any position. They put him at short. Last night, you want to go play right field? He didn't even really have a rehab. He's worked out at home. He has bats all over his house. He grabs some swings. I mean, he didn't go to the minor leagues.

He can play anything. Last night, right field, short stop, played second base. Probably could pitch, play catcher. The smile. He's great in the locker room. He's a leader. He can run. any defensive position, most well-like guy in the clubhouse, he can hit for power, and the Red Sox let him go.

They let Great walk out of the building. It's just, now, all they had to do with the Dodgers, all they had to do was eat David Price's contract. I mean, that might as well be, I mean, the siding of Haley's Comet. Who remembers it? David Price. Where'd he go? I mean, like the contract. I remember it was a bad contract.

But in the end, you got monkey bats for 12 years, who's just an. absolutely unbelievable player. And I'm watching last night and I'm like, I know Aaron Judge is great, but the Dodgers have the two best players in baseball between Mookiee Betts and Chohay Otani and Otani this year, you know, he's not, he's D-H. So Mookie's giving you defense, he's given you offense, he's given you shortstop. And it's just, it's incredible. By the way, since the Dodgers traded for him, I was looking at some numbers this morning.

Since the Dodgers traded for him, the Dodgers have the most wins in baseball. The number one, the first run differential. the second best home run differential, the best team at ERA, and the Red Sox are 17th are lower in all those categories. They let great walk out of the building. This guy's unbelievable. Shortstop, second, right field. He'll play him. By the way, since he arrived, he's been top five in MVP voting, I think three or four times.

Also, he has 124 home runs and 544 games. And when you look at him, he's slight. He's not a big guy. Oh, Tani and Aaron Judge. John Carlos Stanton. Some of the guys in this sport look like home run hitters. He reminds me a little bit of Joe Morgan,

although Morgan was a second basement, left-hand and smaller, but you're always like, how does Joe Morgan generate all that power? He's a little guy. And he batted third for the big red machine. You watch Mookie Betts, and you're like, how does he generate all that power?

He swung from the heels on his first hit bat and kind of flopped over. He is also a profoundly good bowler. So whether it's baseball or bowling, he hovers around 300 a lot. but it is remarkable that you don't see great players moving into their prime traded very often it's not like he was a disruptor he was wonderful in the clubhouse everybody love mucky bets uh but they you know the red sox financially uh they they had to get somebody to eat a big contract

and i i look up and i'm just like that guy is unbelievable he has changed i know we give a lot of press to otani but mucky bets arrived it just changed everything uh and last night was his first He'd been out for a couple of months. They call it a five-tool player, but if he had personality and leadership, he's probably a seven-tool player. And his first game, he also had a RBI single, and just the energy around him. He's always smiling. There's great energy. First guy up the steps in the dugout to greet somebody.

It's just watching him last night. I'm like, how in the world did the Red Sox let him go? Babe Ruth and Mickey Betts. We don't talk a lot of baseball on this show, but it's very rare when you watch a sporting event. You see it in basketball a lot, and somebody jumps off the screen. That's like, you know, T.O. When he was an NFL player, was so big and strong for a wide receiver.

He, like jumped off the TV screen. LeBron's like that. Shack was like that. You watch a baseball game with Mookie Betts, and even at its pace, which is slow, just if he's involved in a play, who's that guy? Who is that guy?

Mookie Betts returns for the Dodgers. So the Aaron Rogers book, I'm about 70% through it. It is a lot. I was watching an interview this morning with Aaron on a New York morning show. And, you know, he's just, he's just prickly. He just, you know, and he's one of these people that believes increasingly that he's a truth teller. Like Elon Musk views himself as that, even though his platform often has to put underneath one of his tweets, Yeah, this is not true.

His own company is like, yeah, the guy who owns us is just making crap up. But he views himself as sort of error and is sort of a truth teller. I do my own homework. It's Elon Musk. We have a presidential candidate like that. We've got podcasters like that. I am the one giving you the real story. I've done my own homework.

And he comes across complex. He can be sweet. He can be thoughtful. There's a lot to unpack. And I'll give you more thoughts on that book because there's one thing. to defend Aaron Rogers. There is one element of that book where I found myself for about 30 minutes

feeling sorry for Aaron Rogers and one of the things he went through. It's Ian O'Connor wrote the book. It is called Out of the Darkness, The Mystery of Aaron Rogers. He was going to write a LeBron book and he said, you know, people had come out and written LeBron books,

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All right, welcome back. I've got to talk about this. Nick Wright, top of next hour, Mark Few, Michael Rubin. So there's this book out. A friend of mine, Ian O'Connor, who's written, you know, the Derek Jeter book, Captain, Balachac. He's as good as anybody in this business as writing a book that goes a mile deep. So he chose Aaron Rogers. He was in New York.

Aaron had come to town. And he wrote a book called Out of the Darkness, the Mystery of Aaron Rogers, interviewed over 500 people. You can tell. There's just so many areas here. Aaron admits that he wishes he would have been more up front with a vaccine. but, you know, there was a lot of reactions from a lot of people with vaccines. I can't hold it against anybody, nor should I, in my position. You know, I will tell you, you start to get a little greater understanding.

I mean, obviously, when you go deep with anybody, Aaron's very complex. He can be petty. He can be cocky. He can be kind. He can be sweet. He can be thoughtful. He's incredibly loyal. And then he can ghost you.

And so there's that. I have two major takeaways, maybe three. number one is Aaron was being hazed for the first three, four years in this organization. The Packers' front office was trapped with an old bitter Brett Fav who was territorial and insecure, and Aaron was the golden boy, and he was good looking, he was cocky, and he was smarter than Fav, and he let him know it, and he had a ton of talent. And Brett was a little beat up, you know, Brett never missed a start, and Brett was stubborn, but Brett was also Hunt, fish guy, get on a tractor guy, gunslinger guy.

That plays very well in Green Bay, small town. Everybody's hunting and fishing in that area. And Aaron's, you know, he's kind of a Hollywood-looking guy with a bit of a chip on his shoulder. To begin with, some of these problems, you know, he kept poking far in the ribs and Mike McCarthy in the ribs and got called out for it. So it's not all against Aaron. But there were, there's chunks in this book that I was upset. Like, I was, like, mad how Aaron was being treated. And he deserves a lot of credit for fighting through it.

You had a front office that wasn't up front with him. The town wouldn't let go. It's like a high school town. They wouldn't let go with a loved quarterback. You had Farrv was territorial. It was a lot. And Aaron deserves a ton of credit putting his head down and just fighting through it. Deserves a ton of credit.

You know, it was almost like Fav and Green Bay were getting a divorce. And Aaron was the new girlfriend and nobody liked her. That's what it felt like. The second thing it made me think about is I wonder how Aaron Rogers would have done if he'd have gone to like a Buffalo or Kansas City or a Detroit or somewhere else instead of the smallest town in the league. And I think, no, Green Bay was perfect. And the reason I think Green Bay was perfect, Aaron's got so much in his head.

He's thinking about stuff most people don't, is that he needed quiet and Green Bay is quiet. The last thing Aaron needed was San Francisco and L.A. or New York. He can handle it now, maybe. But Aaron was battling so much stuff. He needed a place to sort of like just be into football. It's quiet. It's not chaotic. Although the late far of years felt chaotic by Green Bay standards.

But I think Green Bay is the perfect place for him that they really did eventually fall in love with him. It's the only game in town. And they gave him out after that far mess, they gave him the love that he had earned and deserved. And the other thing I take away from this book is, and I've said this about Michael Jordan and Tom Brady. there's a reason so few people are super successful. It's damn hard. I was last night having dinner with a friend who's a very popular chef in Los Angeles, very talented, and it's just hard all the time.

And Aaron Rogers is smart. I mean, you find out very quickly, high school, college, he was different. Like, he was really talented. I mean, Josh Allen got overlooked. by a lot of people. People knew Aaron was great. Like they figured it out very quickly. The junior college coach is like, yeah, I've never seen a player like that. Cal knew he was great. The Pac-12, you know, people in the NFL knew he was great.

And he dropped in the draft for a lot of reasons. Some of it was he could be off-putting with his personality, a little cocky. Some of it was. Teams back then, you know, didn't. Not many teams needed quarterbacks that year. And after he didn't get like number one pick, a lot of teams just didn't need a quarterback. So, but it, it, it, it, it, Aaron's a great example. Good looking, smart, super talented, very early, went to a great organization, and it's still that tunnel Andy Dufrain went through in Shawshank Redemption.

I mean, it is, it is, there are years in there with that Brett Farv and Packer situation. It's Andy Dufrain stuff. And the fact that Andy and Aaron Rogers came out of that stuff a little dirty, it made me like Aaron. because some of the stories I'd heard. It made me like Aaron more, respect him more. I didn't like Brett Farv at all in the book, necessarily. Jeff Pearlman also wrote Gunslinger,

so I'd heard a lot of these stories or read a lot of these stories before, but this book was all about Aaron, not about Farv. And it also, Aaron digs his own holes. Like, you know, he would do things, and McCarthy had to call him out because he did stuff that people shouldn't do if you're the quarterback of the team,

And he said stuff to Brett Fav that you got to do better. I mean, he's a legend. But it encompasses a lot. And I had a lot of feelings. And the feelings were he basically went through three to four years of hazing. Brett Farrb was incredibly territorial. Green Bay, in the end, I think, is the perfect place to create that chip on his shoulder. Aaron, as my wife says, Aaron is balanced.

He has a chip on both shoulders. and it just illustrates again if you're Michael Jordan or you're Aaron Rogers. There's a reason so few people are super successful. It's really hard. That's for the good looking great guys. Right? That's for the guys that are stylish and look like they should be in movies and are brilliant and are dominating. It's still so hard to be at the top of the mountain.

Here's J-Mac with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, sir, let's stick with the Packers, Colin, because they have yet to find a bona fide number one wide receiver since losing Devante Adams. But that didn't hurt Jordan Love or the Packers last season. Love ranked second in the NFL and with 32 passing touchdowns. Matt LaFleur was asked about who would be the number one option this season.

And here's what he had to say. I want to psalmon every time I hear a number one receiver, to be honest with it. It drives me crazy. That's something that you guys talk about. I feel like we got a bunch of them. I think the beauty of them is they're all capable of doing many things, which gives us a lot of versatility from an offensive perspective in terms of how we use these guys and deploy their talents,

especially those, I would say, top four guys. They're all capable of being a number one in some capacity. Yeah, I think we've discussed this. I think it's the most overstated position in the pro football, which is the need for a number one receiver, and it's really nonsense, is that Brady, I mean, Edelman was his favorite target, but often it was gronk in the red zone. And the one time he had a number one receiver, Randy Moss,

they didn't win a Super Bowl. But, I mean, come on, they were undefeated. They were one of the great teams in NFL history. Yes, but Tyreek Hill leaves and Mahomes is a better quarterback. And I think number one receivers come with, ego, they come with their high maintenance, they want the ball, and I just don't think they're necessary. I really don't. I would rather have, it's not like baseball, where if I go into a five or a seven game series and I get Justin Verland or Clayton Kirscho and they're a prime, I have two

Ws. If I had four number twos and no number one, and they're all just complimenting each other, I would take that in a day over a great one, and then I have like not really a two, a couple three's. Give me balance. I don't know who is Puka Nakua or Cooper Cup number one. It doesn't matter. Get open on third down. That's all I care about. I wanted to disagree with you, but you're on my take here. Now, let me ask you, Packers, I'm just going to name their top four receivers last year. You want to guess who led them in receptions. There's Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs, Jaden Reed, and Dantavian Wicks. Well, I think Jaden Reed is the one that looks like he's really emerging. Watson is the big guy that runs well but struggles to stay healthy. Dobs had a drop issue early.

I think he's really talented as well. And the last guy you named, again, they also have very serviceable tight ends. Who was their number one last year? So Jaden Reed led them in receptions. Dobbs led them in first downs and targets. Watson's the gamebreaker. And Wicks came out of nowhere. I think this is going to be potentially a new model.

Hey, we're not paying all the money to Devante Adams. I'd rather have picks and disperse them that way. Well, yeah. Kansas City's doing the same thing. People are confusing the need for receivers, which you do need weapons. But even GMs in the league are confusing the need for receivers with a need for a number one receiver. And I just don't think it's necessary.

I mean, it's great if you have a Jamar Chase. It's less great when I pay them $34 million a year. Well, Buffalo has now decided we're going to go that route. We don't have a number one this season. That's fine. We're going to go with the tight end sets, obviously, and the running back. But because of what these receivers are demanding in the market, I think we're going to see some teens copy this.

I'm interested to see what shakes out with Ayyuk, because he, we think, is the number one, right? I think he's a number one, and in certain ecosystems like New England, he would be absolutely elevating the team. But no, wait, he would be Devante Adams with the Raiders. Like, I'll put up good numbers, but we're going to stink, right? And I just, I think if you have, like,

if T. Higgins left the Bengals eventually, okay, I'll double Jamar Chase. It's much harder to double Jamar Chase now when I've got T. Higgins on the other side. So it's, again, the Randy Moss, New England years, the numbers were great in the regular season. But think about this, too. When do you decide champions in the NFL? Outdoors in January and February.

You better have a strong-arm quarterback because it's windy and cold. Even the Randy Moss years, September and October, early November, Randy's putting up big numbers. You start facing the best coordinators, the best corners, the wind's crappier. Tyreek Hill is wonderful in the regular season. With Tua's arm, what's he going to do in January when he's at Baltimore? You know how you see your financial advisor and he goes over your portfolio and he might say, hey, you're way too heavy in stocks.

You're weighted here. You're too much in real estate. It's like the Miami Dolphins right now, they're all in crypto, right? All offense and receivers and quarterback. And it's like, you can't win a Super Bowl with Tyreek and Waddle and Tua being your three guys. There's no balance. In the NFL, you don't have to be great or even very good. good everywhere. You have, the coaching's so good, you have to avoid being awful anywhere.

Like, like you, like, even the Chiefs, when the O-line was awful because of injuries, got blown out in a Super Bowl. You can't be awful anywhere. The coaching's too good. In college, you can be awful and people can't take advantage of it. You can hide your awfulness, right? Yeah, but not in the NFL. Yeah, I don't know, where are the Packers awful, Colin? The defense last year, and the defense coordinator was not great. Yeah, I would, and I don't have the numbers in front of me. They don't generate a consistent pass rush.

That is just off the top of my head. They got a lot of number ones on the defense, the starting defense. They don't miss much. They don't miss on offense much at all. I don't know where they were in sacks, but I felt like watching Packer games. The pass rush was inconsistent. Yeah, it was spotty at best. I'll just say this, and I've got some of the numbers, you know, being away for the weekend.

I was able to look. The Aaron Jones factor is being underplayed. Like, he was a big-time stud for them, the Packers last year, when he was out. He was very, very good. Don't they have Jacobs now? You like him? You see what he did last season after getting paid by the Raiders, winning that battle? Something to think about.

All right, let's move on to Tua and the Dolphins. Tuah obviously got paid. Four years, $212 million. He set highs for his career in completion percentage, yards, and 29 touchdowns. Tyreek Hill believes that Tua can be even better. It's going to be scary this year, man. I can see a lot of improvements in Ouse's game, man. He's done a tremendous job on, you know, just really honing in on his craft,

like each and every offseason. And then obviously, like, calling us, like, me and Wado and some of the other guys to come work out with him, man. So it's been a beautiful thing, man, like each and every year just to be a part of his whole development from year one I've been with him to year three. Like, I can say that this year. Like, I'm going to call my shot. Like, he can be a MVP candidate once again and even win the thing, man,

he's just that nice. We'll see. We'll put up some numbers, right? We agree. The defense ain't stopping nobody, so they're going to have to score. Yeah, I was saying this last week is in, whereas a guy like Dak who's made a lot of money, no state tax, Cowboys have helped him get huge endorsements. I would sign more of a team-friendly deal.

With Jalen Hertz or Tua, smaller guys had injuries, I'd take whatever I could get. And it's different, you know, Mahomes, take a little less, win more rings. He's also making $40 million in endorsements. There's a lot of different ways to make money in the NFL. Brady took less, but now he's an icon, signs with Fox five minutes after he retires for all that money. And so with Tua, I do think they're trapped a little. Tua needs to take the most money. And he did, because he just, you don't know if it's going to last.

And so it's not one size fits all in the NFL. Where I will defend Tua is Tua should not do necessarily a team-friendly deal because his body is, his body is not built for 12 years in this league. Jalen Hertz has been, I always feel like Jalen Hertz is not 100%. Jalen should take the most he can get. But what's interesting with Tua, I think when you have these injuries and his lack of size, the downside is you can't play the long game. You've got to take the most you can get, and that's what they did. And so I think eventually it will potentially limit some of their personnel moves because they have so much money in Tua now in the receivers.

They're lobsided. Yeah. Final story is the Dallas Cowboys. Ah, the offseason of drama continues. Well, Vegas has their win total at 10 and a half. We've talked about how their favorites in like 13 games. According to one sports book, though, Colin, Dallas has the most under money wagered of any NFL team.

A whopping 93% of the money is on the under, which is now juiced to minus 200. So you've got to pay up if you want to bet the under on the Cowboys. I guess a lot of people have been watching the show going and betting the Cowboys, 10 and a half, I can't go over on 10 and a half for short. No way.

No. The other thing is there's so much more accessible information for fans, and fans were awful betting games 20 years ago. Fans are much better at betting games. There's more information, and they know where to get it, and there's more handicappers, like professional people that do this for a living

that can give you information. When you look at that Dallas schedule, it's not the toughest schedule in the league. there's a lot of breaks in it. Anytime you have the giants in it, it's a break. But it doesn't, you don't get, to me, the Dallas schedule is really important the first two weeks. If they beat Cleveland and the Saints, they're on their way. But it's Baltimore, week three, and then it's Detroit, San Francisco. I'm here to tell you that at Atlanta game, Atlanta's good, Atlanta's going to be,

then it's Philadelphia, then it's Houston. So for Dallas, to me, they have got to get to a spas start because there's some real potholes starting in about week six. I just, you know, I don't want to go back to the DAC thing, but you just said like, I don't know, three minutes ago, you know, DAC could take a team friendly deal. And Colin, the way this Dallas offseason is gone, so Mike McCarthy is suddenly on the hot seat. And they're like, oh, he's won 12 games three years in a row, but he's on the hot seat. So, okay.

Dak Prescott was runner up for MVP last year, and it's like, oh, we don't want to pay him. And it's like, what's going on here? What are we missing? Like, Dak has been a loyal quarterback for that franchise, a perfect podium guy, as you like to say. He's a great face of the franchise. All he does is win, and now Dallas doesn't want to pay him? No, Dallas doesn't want to pay him what Dak wants. They'll pay him.

It's just a game. And I think, and there's also this narrative out there that the Cowboys are so poorly run. No, they're not. When's the last time the Cowboys were bad in back-to-back? seasons. They underachieve late. They're not poorly run. They draft pretty well. They found a lot. Look at their first round picks. I mean, they got DAC in the fourth round. Micah C.D. Lammer home runs. Dallas has not poorly run. I tend to think it's they run like the Lakers. It's a big business run like a local general store. You know, I mean the Lakers hire

Kobe's agents, their general manager and people close to Jeannie Bus or in the front office. that's fine. The Cowboys are the same thing. They don't let enough eyes outside of the building. Parcells and Jimmy Johnson, they'd tell you what you didn't want to hear and they let him go. Jason Garrett was more of felt like the family. And so I don't think the Cowboys are poorly run. I do think they are overly loyal to their draft picks because of Jerry's ego, it validates his draft picks. But when ever I hear the Cowboys, Dach should take your first.

every penny, they're poorly run. No, Dack inherited the best offensive line in football. You know who drafted those guys? Jerry Jones. So he also inherited the best running back in football. So let's not make it out the Cowboys are poorly run. They have now become, I think, very insular, and they're incredibly top-heavy. Top-heavy, but the Rams were top-heavy when they won the Super Bowl. Yes, they were. Now they were better. Staff were better than Dak, but I don't know, I just, maybe we're over-exaggerating three tough playoff losses. The Packers, no show stinks. The 49ers losses, you're losing of great

teams in the 49ers. And then there was the Des Bryant, you know, the fumble against the Packers. Like, ah, maybe they're closer than we think. Okay. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly news. We have Breaking NFL News

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Saturday, it's baseball night in America on Fox as Shohei Otani leads the Dodgers against Paul Goldschmidt and the Cardinals. Or the guardians take on the Brewers. It all begins Saturday at 7 Eastern on Fox. Check for the game in your area. All right, this is breaking news. J.J. McCarthy, who had a really nice debut against the Raiders, ran the ball well. He has a torn meniscus in his right knee, according to his coach, Kevin O'Connell. and they don't know how extensive the surgery is,

but J.J. McCarthy, the quarterback out of Michigan, the meniscus tear, he's not going to start early in the season. They don't know yet how long he'll be sidelined. Generally, young athletes especially, they return much faster than you think. So it doesn't say season-ending injury, I think it puts, Sam Darnel was going to start anyway. I think J.J. McCarthy made everybody feel like it was closer

than we previously predicted. But Sam Darnold's the quarterback. So, you know, we talk about this all the time. 60 quarterbacks played last year. And so when people freak out that the Falcons drafted Michael Pennix and got Kirk Cousins, Minnesota's already out one of their best quarterbacks. We're one preseason game in. They're already down one quarterback.

So the best problem in the NFL to have is we've got a loaded quarterback room. You can deal with it. So he looked good. You know, all these quarterbacks I have different feelings about. I think Caleb is the only one good enough in this draft to overcome a bad coach, bad coordinator. He'll still be productive. I think everybody else needs something. I think Sean Payton is really important for Bo Nix.

He could not overcome a bad O-line or a bad defensive coach. J.J. McCarthy feels like he needs the right coach and the right fit. He's not big enough, strong enough. You know, he's not that. I think the draft has one super talent, and then you're going to be as successful as the situation you're placed in. Even Jaden Daniels, who I like, is pretty slight. That bill's not going to take a beating, so they've got their quarterback, they got the coaching staff. They've got to get the O' line right and protect him.

So there you go. Sam Darnold's going to play and start week one without a doubt. Here's the other thing I was thinking about Justin Fields. And I think J.J. McCarthy isn't as physically gifted as Justin Fields, but he's probably a better prospect. When he went to Pittsburgh, I had said that he's not great enough to overcome the wrong coach or the wrong coordinator or a bad old line. But the Pittsburgh thing, after watching this weekend, it's, I'm trying to talk myself into Justin Fields. and every time I watch him, I see the same thing. And it does show you why so many scouts and general managers make mistakes on players,

because you fall in love with talent. He just doesn't see the field. He doesn't recognize defenses. Whatever it is, it's way too hard. And I was thinking about this this morning as we were prepping for the show. I'm not sure Pittsburgh's a great place for him. Here's the one thing Mike Tomlin does not do well, and it's not arguable. Develop offensive lines.

He just doesn't. I mean, if you go look at the best offensive lines in the NFL last year for the top five had offensive coaches at the time. Falcons, Phyllis, Colts, and Lions. I don't think it's a coincidence. McVeigh, Andy Reed, Matt LaFlewer and Green Bay. Sean Payton in one off season, fixed, mostly fixed, the Denver offensive line. How long before Buffalo can get a great offensive line outside of left tackle? It's been like nine years, it feels like.

It's still mediocre. Allen still running for his life. Pittsburgh, 10 straight drafts under Mike Tomlin. They didn't take an offensive lineman in the first or second round. And yet during that stretch, they took five linebackers and overwhelmingly defensive players as the league was pivoting to offense. And that's just Mike Tomlin. That's what he's comfortable with. That's what he knows. Now, the Steelers have always drafted wide receivers well, but they can't get the O line right. They went into the O line again this year. So I kind of look at Justin Fields, and he is just not good to succeed unless he's got the right coordinator and the right protection.

He holds on to the ball too long. I mean, he gets sacked a lot. So did Zach Wilson for a guy that can move. Like when you think guys that get sacked, you'd be like, well, Kirk Cousins or Jared Gough, not really. They get rid of the ball. Brady, he'll get, say he didn't move. Tom got rid of it really quickly and red defenses. So I don't know how well it's going to work.

But as I was watching him this weekend, I'm like, I just feel like it's just, it's harder than it should be. Just taking the snap, it's just harder than it should be. And I'm not sure it's a great fit. Here's Mike Tomlin on Justin Fields' fumbling issue on their game Friday against Houston. I thought he did some nice things, but obviously he was a component of the CQ exchange. And from my perspective, that's dual responsibility on the center and the quarterback. I'm in the gated a lot of good things going on in those first couple of drives. You get behind the chains, particularly at the early stages,

before you gain real cohesion and have enough of a menu to get you out of them circumstances. You're a dead group. And so the CQ exchanges were an issue. Yeah, it's Justin Fields. I always feel like he takes a big step forward and then two back. He'll take a sack. He's holding on the ball. He'll fumble a snap.

It's his, like Tom Pellisaro said it yesterday. His YouTube highlight reel, it looks like he's the best player in the league. But a lot of steps back and Pittsburgh just can't get the O line right. And they've drafted good players. They've got guys I like. But the cohesion, their running game despite two backs that I think are good, is always to me hit and miss Sunday to Sunday. So we'll see.

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