The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - The Lamar Jackson hypocrisy

Episode Date: November 26, 2024

Colin discusses the hypocrisy surrounding Lamar Jackson after a big win over the Chargers on Monday night He gives his reasons why the 49ers should consider rebooting  The hard truth is if Georgia gets another loss, they shouldn't get into the College Playoff  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Heard hierarchy on a Tuesday in one hour live in Los Angeles. The home of Lamar Jackson dominating. It's the herd. Wherever you may be. Thanksgiving's Thursday. However you may be. may be watching us. Thanks for making us part of your day. It's very interesting. J-Mack, the Chargers had the number one defense in the league. They were great on third down.

They were great on fourth down. And something happened last night. Suddenly, they faced a team that scored 30 points, was perfect on fourth down, was 50% on third down. I mean, what in the world happened to the Chargers last night? Derek Henry happened. He's a tough man to tackle. He certainly is, well, it's also that pesky thing called, hey, Lamar Jackson's pretty good at quarterback. Now, again, not a terrible night for the Chargers. It's year one of the process. They need themselves two or three Zayflowers.

But this is about Baltimore and Lamar Jackson. Now, 10 and 1 he is, last three years after a loss, 16 touchdowns, four picks in those games. He is relentless. He can beat you over the top. He can beat you with his legs. He can beat you underneath. You can't get a hold of him. But yet at 27 years old, by the way, he can't.

MJ didn't win a title until he was 27 years old, but Lamar Jackson, whatever it is, everybody wants to make definitive statements about Lamar Jackson at 27. New rule, when anybody in any career, it can be comedy, screenwriting, tightrope walking, athletics. If anybody's great at 27, I'd scale back on the definitive statements. They're going to eventually break through. Yeah, Michael Jordan's first title, 27. You want to know how many Super Bowls Drew Brees and Peyton Manning had it 27 combined? Zero.

Bagel, nada, nothing. Be careful. You can make definitive statements on a bust. Quentin Johnson can't catch. There's my definitive statement for the Chargers' first round receiver pick last year. He can't catch consistently. But everybody's trying to define a great 27-year-old pro athlete. So that's the first thing.

His work ethic, he's the soul of the team. I mean, you're wasting your breath. You can define people at 27 if they don't have a work ethic. They're not that talented. They don't have any career momentum. He's not the guy you want to do that, too. The second part of this story is the Chargers will probably look more like Baltimore in a couple of years. Their step one of the process.

But what has Baltimore done? Baltimore's done what Buffalo's done. They keep adding elements to help their superstar. quarterback, so he didn't have to be Superman. So a couple years ago, you're like, you know, they can really use some help at receiver. Zave Flowers. Zave Flowers is great. You can get them on a drag route.

Eight-yard completion, 38-yard gain. You can get Zay Flowers over the top. And then they add Derek Henry, who, yeah, it's hard to bring down. It's like James Cook and Dalton Kincaid for Josh Allen. You want to have a superstar quarterback. You don't want him to have to do it by himself in every big game. And by the way, when the Ravens went for it on fourth of the first. and won at their own 16.

That is a tip of the cap to Lamar Jackson. You don't do that with 90% of the quarterbacks in this league. But if you got him a Holmes, you got a Josh Allen, you got a Joe Burrow, you got Lamar Jackson, maybe you got a Jalen Hertz, whoever, you're always like, you know, if this doesn't work, it's not like we can't score on the other end. That's the confidence you have when you have one of these five or six amazing quarterbacks. Let's just go for it. That becomes the default answer a lot of the time.

That's why getting the quarterback is the most important thing in this league. You can always be aggressive. You can always overcome. You can take bigger risks. You can't take risks with an average quarterback. I mean, there's some quarterbacks in this league. If they're down 10-0-0-0-0. Games over.

San Francisco falls behind 7-0-0-0 this weekend or 10-9-and. You're like, with a backup quarterback, games over. I don't even like Brock Purdy down 14-0. Lamar Jackson, what do I care? What do I? Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, what do I care? Right? So, you know, the Chargers, they're going to be fine.

But they were the little brother last night. And the Big Brother, step three or four, five in the process. And they're looking for the payout now next few years. Zave Flowers, Derek Henry, Lamar Jackson. I felt like I was watching the younger version of the Ravens, where you've got a Harbaugh coaching, a star quarterback, and he just doesn't have, Justin Herbert, just doesn't have enough help yet. He will.

Harbaugh is a good drafter. They need a couple of Zay flowers. They could use maybe a Derek Henry, too. But here's Lamar after. I feel like for me being a bit brother. It's like I can't lose to my little brother, you know. And that's what I believe going into that game. He was thinking a lot, you know.

And then Jim on the other side, I believe he was like, I got to beat my bit brother. But he came out victorious. And by the way, here's another thing. I know you don't want to give Lamar credit because he didn't throw for four. 400 yards. But remember that the Ravens have now dropped 30 points on the Bills, Denver, and the Chargers. Pretty good defenses. Well, Derek Henry, when he was down in Tennessee, Titans weren't dropping 30 points on defenses like that.

It starts with Lamar Jackson. Primetime, Monday night football after a loss. I'll put his numbers up for the TV audience. He's money. And just so we're clear here for all you Lamar haters, Just so we're clear. I want to get this clear. So when the Ravens and Lamar lose to the seven and two Steelers in the one o'clock window, that's a huge game.

But when they beat Harbon Herbert in primetime on Monday night football on the road, that one doesn't count. Is that where we're at now? I'm just struggling with a one o'clock window. I always thought prime time, Sunday night, Monday night. I always thought those were big games, beating a hard. Bob beating a star quarterback. Oh, it felt like a big game to me. Just trying to keep track. So, yesterday, you know, I come on this show every day as America's honesty broker.

And I just try to give you the skinny. And I understand that you're fans. And you and I are going to disagree on stuff because you're very passionate about your team. You don't call me looking for me to care about your team as much as I do because I don't. But yesterday, I suggested. And apparently this was met with outrage by San Francisco. Francisco media and fans. I suggested, I think San Francisco needs to reboot. Oh, I don't know. There's this crazy thing about being five and seven in your last 12 games, old, expensive,

and brittle. That apparently was outrageous. So San Francisco fans have not yet accepted a very harsh truth. How many great players do you have in their prime? Philadelphia got a lot of great players in their prime. Detroit's got a lot of great players in their prime. Last year was the last dance, and there's a reason there's only been one documentary on a sports team's last dance. It rarely turns out like you think. So, and if you don't think the bigger they are, the harder they fall in the NFL, let me give you the Patriots, who went from a 20-year dynasty to Jenga in two years. Crap all over the floor. with the Dallas Cowboys.

12 wins, 12 wins, 12 wins, 2. What the hell am I watching? San Francisco, you should know better. 1999, after Montana and Steve Young. Steve Young gets hurt, 1999. Next 12 years. Made the playoffs two times. This is a sport where people are tackling each other.

Big strong men are tackling each other. Stuff falls apart fast. Seahawks Dynasty. Here it never was. This is going to be two years. So psychologically, the Niners have never, ever been able to hoist a trophy. And so how the Niners view themselves and how the rest of us view the Niners are two different things. Here's how the rest of us view the Niners.

The Kansas City Chiefs toy with you. Under Kyle Shanahan, they're five and O against you, four blowouts. You're not close to San Francisco. You're not close to Kansas City. Oh and five. Four double-digit loss. They're getting better, you're getting old and worse and expensive. They keep rebuilding the O-line, rebuild the receiving core.

Andy Reid. Mahomes in his prime. You've got Brock Purdy and an old expensive brittle roster. It's not close. Now, Baltimore and Buffalo have superstar quarterbacks. So they still have a shot. And many of their best players in Baltimore and Buffalo are in their prime. But Brock Purdy in an aging roster, does that sound like you're on the precipice of a nine-year run?

And I look at that schedule this morning. You can blame whoever you want. You can go kicking and screaming. I'm looking at that remaining schedule at Buffalo this week. Rams at Miami, Detroit, at Arizona. Chicago's no layup. Not the way Caleb Williams is playing. So how you view yourself is not how everybody else views the Niners.

I view you as 0 and 5 against Kansas City. you've had three coordinators in three years. They have the best coordinator and the best head coach and the best quarterback. And you have Brock Purdy, a coach that's good but blows late leads in big games, and you're on your third coordinator. And none of those in four or five games can come close to Kansas City. Every time they play you. Same result.

Kind of ugly. That's how the rest of us view it. Big brand, a lot of wins. but this league, you crash hard. You crash hard. It's not like NBA. Michael's great. He leaves for a couple years.

Michael comes back. They have another dynasty. No, it's not like that. It's like the Seattle Seahawks. Get to a Super Bowl. Then another. Then see ya. It's the New England Patriots,

20 years of dominance to a jenga piece on the floor around 20 other jenga pieces. defensive coordinator gets hired as an offensive coordinator. What are they doing? It's Dallas. They are this close to apparently fourth place. That's the league. Kyle Shanahan on the current state of the Niners.

You're one game out of first in your own division. So that does say a lot, especially being able to play two of those teams left, the first six games. But you also know you look at the whole NFC picture, and if you don't win the division, it's, you know, 10 and 7 is not guaranteed to get in as a wild card by any means this year. So I think everyone understands completely outside and inside what the situation is. By the way, Brock Purdy light throwing yesterday.

A bit of a mysterious shoulder issue. Nobody's quite sure what it is. But they're a touchdown underdog. It's going to be cold out in Buffalo. They're flying cross-country. This is the best Bills team in the Josh Allen. Eleanor, you're staring at 5 and 7

and that would be 5 and 8 in your last 13 games, and I'm the crazy one. I'm the one that doesn't know what he's talking about. All right, fine, I'll just take it again. Show up every day. Dartboard. I'm a verbal dartboard from fans. It's unfortunate.

J. Mack, Nick Wright in one hour, heard hierarchy in one hour. I looked at the lines this weekend. Boy, that did Detroit Chicago game. Tasty? I'm just saying when I look at Detroit, so I'm doing the hurt hierarchy,

I don't remember the last team that literally physically dominated other teams like Detroit. So America, right, on Sundays, America watches their favorite teams. Thursday, you get to watch the Lions. You get to see what, you know, people like you and I have to watch all these games. I was thinking this morning driving in, America's finally going to get a first look. Everybody collectively is going to watch Detroit against the talented Chicago. team and everybody's finally going to go. Yeah, Kansas City's not that

good. Buffalo's not that good. Baltimore's good. They're not that good. Philadelphia's close, but probably not that good. You don't think everybody watched them beat the Titans 52-14 or the Jags 52-6? They weren't tuned in for those? Well, the NFL is kind of a regional

league in a lot of the big cities, so I'm interested to see everybody's interpretation of Detroit. Now, it is funny. Last year on Thanksgiving, if memory serves me correctly, didn't Green Bay or something go into Detroit and just play like their game of the year. That was like the Jordan Love start. Yeah, it was this performance by Jordan Love.

We were all like, what in the world are we watching? So I'm looking forward to that. Yeah, by the way, who's the best quarterback in the Thanksgiving night game, Tua or Jordan Love? Take your time on this one because I know you love one guy. Well, I'm more of a Jordan Love fan. I'm aware, but this season. By the way, everybody is being better. Everybody is saying the Thanksgiving games aren't good.

I think Miami, I just looked at the weather this, morning. It's going to be cold. It's going to be 29 degrees. And it's not snowing. It's not windy. Well, let's keep an eye on that wind chill. I think it's going to be... I think Miami at Green Bay is a great game. It's certainly better than Cooper Rush versus Drew Locke. It sounds like Drew Locke could get the start. DeVito got dinged up. I don't know. Very exciting. Yeah.

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It is a process. I've been in this business for a long time. I've seen a lot of shows start and everybody judges a show after two weeks. Like, take a deep breath. Take the Detroit Lions. We look at them and they're like, man, that team is well run now. They have done everything right. Yeah, year four.

They went 3, 13 and 1, 9 and 8, 12, and 5, and now they're 10 and 1. And they've done virtually everything right. Steve Sarkeesian in college, he's one of the great recruiters. 5 and 7, 8 and 5, 12 and 2 made the college football playoff, and now finally at Texas. Huge brand where you can just get 25 first round picks every year. Now they're 10 and 1 and number 3 in the country. That's with Texas. everything right in Detroit. That's what success is. And successful people know that. So Harbaugh

doesn't let any of the criticism get to him. But Jim Harbaugh's in time, remember all these idiots that were banging on him at Michigan because he couldn't meet Ohio State? You don't take over Brady Hoax program and on one or two recruiting classes beat Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State. Maybe Purdue, you can clean the kitchen up, but you still got the driveway, the roof. and so here's what happens with Jim Harbaugh everywhere. He goes in, turns garbage into a pretty nice situation. Not Super Bowl nice, not when a natty nice, but he makes you good. He patches the holes in the boat and makes you as good as you can possibly be.

And then he becomes a victim of himself. All these people banging on him at Michigan. He's trying to beat Ohio State, arguably the second best program in the country in my life. And building a Super Bowl team is hard. You can watch the Chargers last night. They're very good on script in the first half, offensively and defensively. Why?

Because that's coaching. Jesse Minter and Jim Harbaugh. Second half comes down to players. You ever notice this with Philadelphia? Philadelphia is okay in the first half against the Rams. McVeigh, first half keeps it close, coaching. But when you go off script and it's mono-o-mano guy versus guy who's got better dudes, Philadelphia rolls them.

Second half, Baltimore rolls them. Chargers need to shore up their interior O-line. They need two or three more playmakers, probably need another great corner, and then they can be Baltimore or Detroit or Philly or Kansas City. So it's just this idea, everybody else is trying to, and you're not the only smart person in any business you're in.

It's hard to win elections. It's hard to win football games. When you're going up against Andy Reid and your brother John Harbaugh, it's hard. And I thought last night, don't think all losses in the NFL are bad losses. I thought the Bears losing to Minnesota this weekend. I was like, that's a good loss.

That was a very encouraging loss because Minnesota's good. I thought the Chargers last night when it was on script that could keep the game in front of them, but over the course of time, Lamar Jackson, Henry's A. Flowers, Mark Andrews, Kyle Hamilton, just like they got layers and layers of dudes and guys and they've been building this puppy in Baltimore forever. Here's Jim after. We know. What kind of team?

We are on what we're capable of and regroup. And as I said a couple times, yeah, that's more importantly to me is I know we're building and I know what we're capable of and onward. My brother Jim, best coach of the National Football League when he's done with that team and how hard they play and what they did. And these are just huge battles, huge battles every week in this league. So the Chargers this year, they would have lost to Cincinnati a few weeks ago, right? They're 6 and 0. Jim Harbaugh's Chargers, 6 and 0 against losing teams. So they're beating the teams they're supposed to.

They couldn't do that last year. And they're 1 and 4 against winning teams. Why? Because the winning teams have years and years to build it. So like they, oh, they lose to Kansas City. Right? Or they lose to Pittsburgh and Mike Tomlin's culture. And, oh, well, what do you know?

They lose to Baltimore. They're winning the games. They should be winning. And now that Justin Herbert is healthy, and he wasn't in the first month, so you're not quite sure what they are. But they'll win the games they should. They're not Detroit, Philly, Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City. They're not. I do think they match up with Kansas City really well.

I think those games will be interesting. I think they're a step ahead of Denver who's good. But Denver doesn't have as, in my opinion, as many, they don't have Jim, they don't have, Justin Herbert. They have Bo Nix, who's a rookie. So Sean Payton's going through this process. Sean Payton, next year they'll be better. Sean Payton will have less of Russell Wilson's cap hit to worry about. Bo Nix's second year.

Another six to seven draft picks. One or two more free agent signings. Just a process. J-MAC with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Let's start with the Cincinnati Bengals.

Colin. Season has not gone great yet for Zach Taylor and company. They have a huge game this weekend against Pittsburgh, which is basically their season. Well, Zach Taylor, the genius, has decided to put ping pong tables in the locker room, hoping that it fosters team building activities and competitiveness. You just want guys interact, and, you know, so that's one way to do it. I'm not overthinking it too much, but there's a way to create some energy and get guys up and active.

You know, it's December football now, and need everyone to be at their best, need everyone to have energy when they walk in the building. That creates some competitiveness. It's about all there is to it. Yeah, it would really help if the owner would build an outdoor practice facility and would pay Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. For the record, I was watching the Chargers last night,

and I thought of your suggestion. If you took Quentin Johnson and replaced him with T. Higgins, you're like, it's a different team. And then you get one more Ladd-McConkey than in year two, T. Higgins. Now you're like, okay, now that's something. So I was thinking of you last night, but I think I feel bad for Joe Burrow and I feel bad for Zach Taylor because I think Zach's a good coach. I think there's just limitations to what a Cincinnati head coach can do. T.J. Hushman's audit came on this show years ago. He played for very wealthy Seattle and very well-run

Baltimore and Cincinnati. And when you compare the three situations, T.J. Hushman's a very honest guy was like, it's like college compared to pro football operations. Well, they splurts for ping pong tables, which is nice. Those are expensive. By the way, are you a ping pong guy? I used to be. So I lobbied this staff for a ping pong table to foster community and competitiveness. I honestly did that in the first year. You can ask Kyle, music, all these guys. Also, I would wipe the floor with most people. I'm very good at ping pong.

Yeah. But, Colin, this is late in the season a ping pong table? That's going to like turn things around. Are they that desperate? Is that how desperate Zach Taylor? No. You guys on this staff have been telling me Cincinnati's going to make a run, and I've been telling you for the last month, they're just not good enough. I don't have enough. I mean, they have like four players I love, and you can have the rest of the roster. Are you seeing what's happening with this market for Bengals Steelers?

Look at the screen. The Bengals, the lonely Bengals, are three-point favorites at home against Russell Wilson and your guy, Mike Tomlin. Yeah, I like Pittsburgh. Oh, do you? Okay. Good luck. You're going to take them in the Blazance 5? By the way, are you doing a Blazing 5? Well, no, I don't.

Not on Thanksgiving. I never do. So now we're out week one and out Thanksgiving. Okay. You sure you want to keep doing this thing? All right, let's go to Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. So Dak got a new contract at the start of the year, right? C.D. Lamb also got a new contract, Colin.

Mike McCarthy, the head coach, did not. Jerry Jones was asked about the possibility McCarthy could get extended. Take a listen to the owner's answer. I don't think that's crazy at all. all. That's not crazy. Matt McCarthy has been there, done that. So bottom line is that there's no place in my body language or anything else. Have you seen indications about what we're going to be doing relative to this staff at the end of this year?

Well, that's Belichick's second choice. Can I just throw this out to you? What's his first? New York Giants. Belichick. Belichick loves the New York Giants. It's in his heart. I mean, Bill Belichick doesn't cry a lot on camera.

You get him going through the halls of the New York Giants. Bill Belichick gets all. Bill Belichick deeply cares about the New York Giants. Is he crying about the lack of talent in the building? No, no. Just I'm saying is I would retain Brian Daibald. But I'm just telling you, Dallas is Belichick second choice because he and Jerry get along. He ain't one in.

Oh, him and Jerry get along. They do. How do you think Belichick would handle the owner doing like five-in radio interviews a week? And causing a firestorm an interview. dust up. And then every time Belichick goes to the podium, hey, well, your owner said this on the radio yesterday. I think that's baked in. I think you just know you get a little, you get a little crazy with Jerry. I think that's baked into it. You're also the coach of the Dallas Cowboys. I think there's reasons I wouldn't want the job personally, but I think that's Belichick's second choice.

Have you ever actively sought out a job where the big, big boss is crazy? And you know it? Well, you know, I don't get offered those big jobs. But if I did, I would consider not going. That's insane. All right. Final story is, let's go to the dumpster fire in the NFC East, not New York Giants. So Malik Neighbors called the team out after the game,

after the loss of the Buccaneers. It was just a great clip. Neighbors was smacking his gum, visibly upset, complained about not getting the ball the entire first half, said, go ask Brian Dabes. Well, head coach Brian Dable said he talked to the rookie after the outburst.

He's very competitive individual. You want to get the ball in his hands, and I got to do a better job of getting a ball on his hands early. He's a smart young guy that's very competitive, Pat. And again, when you lose like that, it's a frustrating thing. But we've had good communication, as we always have. I'll say it again, there's a lot of pieces here. They just need a quarterback.

They're going to get, they're going to get, can I throw it out there what I think is going to happen? Go for it. Cam Ward. To the New York Giants? Yeah. All right, so this is funny. I was, you know, I go through these box scores because I'm a loser. So zero targets for neighbors in the first half.

Yeah. Okay? So the second half, something happened at halftime in the locker room. Something went down. I don't know what it was. The very first play, Tommy DeVito to Malik Neighbors for 21 yards. The second play, you want to guess we target it again? Malik, Neighbors. The third play.

This is right after halftime. Neighbors, neighbors, neighbors. I'm guaranteeing you something went down and a half. Malik neighbors probably yelling. Why the hell am I not getting the ball? This guy got five pass attempts. I'm going to defend Malik neighbors. Their offense was better when they targeted their best offensive player. So now go ask the head coach.

Why didn't you do that once in the first half, Brian? Are you a play caller or are you a head coach? I mean, that's a legitimate question. How do you not target it once in the half, Colin? And we forgot about Malik neighbors. Let me just force feed him on this first drive to keep him happy. I think there's a lot of things going on with the Giants. There's a lot of noise, and I don't think it was their best effort.

But again, remember, everybody in New York, all the genius media types in New York lectured us on Robert Sala was the problem. The defense got worse, the offense got worse. This team was competitive before Robert Sala. All the media know it all is in New York. Sala's the problem. No, he was the best coach in that city, arguably. He was the best football coach in that city.

Brian Dable and him. Okay, so now all of a sudden it's Brian Dable. You know, what do they say, lawyers? When you have the facts, you pound the facts. When you don't, you just pound the table. A lot of table pounders in New York that don't really either know or care to know that Brian Dable's a word a good coach. Ownership, bad GM, scouts have missed on a lot of players,

the Gettlement hangover. But everybody had Robert Sala was a bum. Nah, he was the only legitimate big-time coach on the staff. I don't want to go too deep into this. But Colin, you keep saying he's a good coach. Let's back up. Define for me a good coach. Winning a playoff game with Daniel Jones.

Come on, it's more than that. Well, I mean, that's something. I'm talking about, like, Jim Harbaugh is like a boiler plate. Hey, man, you need to have an offensive philosophy, and you need to instill it in your team. Justin Herbert's been in this league a long time, He's excellent. No playoff wins. Daniel Jones is a playoff win. So by the way, that's the difference.

A great quarterback doesn't have a playoff win. A guy that just got, they played him at safety a week ago, has one. I'm just saying. So Brian Dable's been there several years now, Colin. What are the New York Giants? What is their philosophy as a team? You're blaming him. No, I'm not blaming.

I'm asking. I'm just asking questions. Their philosophy is, well, it was run the football, play action for Daniel, but the GM thought Sequin Barkley was, I'm not paying a running back 12 million a year. That was the philosophy, and then the GM traded

the philosophy away. I mean, the GM traded the or moved, let the guy walk across the street, didn't trade him. So they had a philosophy and the GM let the philosophy walk out of the building. What do you want? So I guess that that goes back to like, listen, you've got to get the GM and the coach

on the same page. If the Raiders decided tomorrow, the GM said, I'm getting rid of Max Crosby. And you're like, you know, Antonio Pierce's defense isn't as good. Well, their identity is they play hard. And the best player on their team is Max Crosby. So if the GM lets him go, you let the identity walk out of the building. Don't blame the coach.

That's my take. I mean, I just don't understand how if Dave was the coach and his philosophy is play action and Sequin Barclay, the GM is going to be like, eh, we don't need Sequin. Like that means the coach and the GM are not on the same page. Somebody got to go, Colin. It's not working. Would you agree with that? Oh, I've said I would get rid of the GM.

J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd line news. There's a couple things here. Oh, SEC fans are freaking out. You know, it's funny. They puffed their chest out.

We are the best conference. And then the minute they cannibalize each other, they want to be a victim. But if Georgia loses in the SEC championship in two weeks, You can't let Georgia in the playoff with three losses? I'll talk about that. Heard hierarchy. Nick Wright, a lot of good stuff coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. but this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing,

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I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense.

And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball, like, after you go through a training camp with that, I said, you figure it out real quick.

Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Criminless, we're joined by our first ever guest. Sorry, our first ever. human guest.

I don't think I could be in the same room with Shamrock the parrot. I'd be too nervous. That's right. The very funny, Will Ferrell joins Rory Schovel and me, Josh Dean, for an episode dedicated to the many crimes committed by people also named Will Ferrell. They called to his fellow officer for the nippers. What are the nippers? Very good question.

No, I was thinking, would that be a good name for like a salad dressing? Simple assault. And it's a play on word, salt? Maybe not. I say we invest and we see. There's only one way to know. This did not amuse the cops. By the way, normally the cops are amused, but this did not abuse the cops. Will even comes clean about some of his own crimes.

I didn't get caught. You know why? If you don't want to be suspected of anything, you whistle as you walk. Listen to crime lists on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. What would you eat if you had to start over? Real simple, poor man's, poor woman's food. Black beans, chicken, rice, plantains. Yeah.

That's poor people's food, man. But being Nigerian, that's, come on, a go-to. On the podcast eating while broke, I sit down with celebrities, entrepreneurs, and creators as they revisit the meals they once relied on and the moments that shaped their journey. Named Best Food Podcasts at the 2006 I-Heart Podcast Awards, This show is all about real conversations on money, growth, and what it really takes to make it. It was times where me and Lexa definitely get into it because we're not making any money. Like, I need to start making money.

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Join us Thanksgiving Day on Fox as CD Lamb and the Cowboys take on rookie sensation. Malik neighbors and the Giants. The action kicks off at Four Eastern on Fox. So the college football playoff rankings come out tonight and FCC fans are getting very nervous. Now, a little backstory when the SEC shocked the world

and stole Texas and Oklahoma from the Big 12. They puffed their chest. This year is the result of it. Alabama being humiliated by Oklahoma. Texas, clearly the best team in the conference beginning of season to now. So SEC fans say, well, well, well, well, well, here's the truth. If Georgia, with two losses in two weeks loses the SEC championship game, I don't believe they should.

should get in. B, our schedule. Oh, let's, let me look up Georgia's schedule. Okay, let me look this up. Let me see who's on that schedule. Oh, Tennessee Tech

and Massachusetts. That's what I see. Oh, you really think Alabama? You want, you want credit for that Alabama game you lost? I don't know. I watched them against former Big 12, tough guy, Oklahoma. Humiliated. But Georgia would beat.

Yes, the playoff was created to get rid of that argument. And I think the playoff is great because it gives everybody a mulligan. Bama loses to Vandy. You get a mulligan. You don't get two and three mulligans. You can't get beat by Vandy and then get humiliated if you're Alabama by Oklahoma. You're done. And Georgia's got two losses.

You don't get three. But we would beat. The regular season has to mean something. And it's already been reduced because of the playoff. When Georgia beat Texas, it didn't ruin Texas' season. My first take was, well, if they meet again, what an advantage for the Longhorns. So we've already reduced the impact to some degree of the regular season, though it's still good. You don't want to reduce all of it.

It's got to mean something. And we know this in pro football. Sometimes a team can win a division. They're 7 and 9. It's a bad division. And there's a team that can have 10 wins that don't make the playoffs. That's why you have a regular season. So you don't get three losses.

It doesn't work that way. But we would beat. Well, you had those breathers against Tennessee Tech and Panera Bread and Roast Beef State. And he got some layups getting ready for those games. And so I don't have a lot of pity. You've got you SEC team scheduled these ridiculous, you know, out of conference. conference games, no other conference plays teams that bad, that regularly. But, but, but we have this, this, this.

You're not that good. Georgia's offense stinks. Alabama's offense sometimes stinks. Ole Miss can't beat Florida. I mean, all these college teams in the SEC going on the road and melting against average teams, that's a you problem. So I'll give you a mulligan, but the regular season has to mean something. And the SEC is they were stealing Texas and Oklahoma from the Big 12th.

All they were doing was puffing out their chest. Well, this is the result of it. It's like when your company merges with another company, and you're like, look how big our company is. Don't be shocked if they keep that management team and get rid of your management team. That's the downside to a merger. And when you take Texas and Oklahoma, instead of getting Middle Tennessee Tech in week 10,

you have to go to Norman Oklahoma and get your forehead whacked. That's the way it is. is. So sorry, sorry for that, but you bragged about it. Now I don't want to hear you're a victim of it, because this was going to make you the strongest conference. And now, instead of getting that breather, now you've got to go to Austin or you've got to go to Norman. How'd that work out, Alabama? You weren't even competitive. Eight minutes in, not competitive. So I'm not losing any sleep over that. And I think the SEC is the best conference, but I'm going to take a one-loss Indiana team over a three-lossed Georgia team because the regular season has to mean something. Something. Doesn't have to mean everything.

It's got, I mean something. In the NFL, it's not everything, but it gets you into the playoffs. That means something. Okay. Nick Wright, heard hierarchy top of next hour. So I think this is interesting. So you know on this show, I like Tua. I would not have paid him mid-50 million, but, you know, listen, Miami could not move the football without him, couldn't get first downs without him.

So Tua never looked more valuable than when he was hurt. When he was gone, you're like, yeah, they need him. And two is good. We're not denying that. Two is good. 55 million good. We'll see. But Brock Purdy did some light throwing Monday without an issue.

So it's been a very mysterious shoulder issue. So the good news, he plays at Buffalo in 19 degrees this weekend. I'm sure it'll be all fine. The Brock Pretty injury is weird, though, because he had two MRIs and they couldn't find anything. And here's what's funny, is that I think San Francisco fans, think they have an answer at quarterback, and I actually think they have a dilemma at quarterback. So we look at Tua's contract at $53 million, and that's like fourth or fifth in the league. But within a couple years, it'll be like 10th or 12th.

So it is not unrealistic for a Pro Bowl quarterback whose team can't score without him. But is Tua not a better version of Brock Purdy? I mean, they're both 6-1-2-20. They both have multiple injuries in the NFL. neither has a great arm, both have a great offensive coach, same system with great weapons that elevate them at 6-1. They're athletic, but there's no wow there athletically. I mean, Tua struggles in cold weather. I saw Brock Purdy playing the rain in Cleveland.

He had ball security issues. So here's the thing. If Tua is a more talented version than Brock Purdy, and I think that's true, and you're paying Tua 53 large, What are you going to pay Brock Purdy? You think 34? That's not going to work. You know how contracts work. You look at other companies.

You look at other talent. You look at other quarterbacks. And you go, well, relative to the market, here's what he has to get paid. Brock Purdy's agents not letting him sign for $34 million. So, I mean, to me, here is absolutely definitively what Brock Purdy is. Better than Jimmy Garoppolo. So my question is, is that the standard? Better than Jimmy Garoppel.

Healthier, usually. More mobile, always. That's what he is. So it's interesting. We really criticize Tua, but this is an organization in Miami that could not score without him. They couldn't compete. Now they're hammering people.

So Tua's got real value, and at 53 million, myself included, I was like, I'm not comfortable with that given his concussion stuff. what are you going to pay Purdy? You're not getting $34 million. And I think Tua is a better version of Brock Purdy. So I think that is. I think Brock Purdy could be a franchise quarterback. But remember, you're going to have to pay him $50 million.

You've got to get rid of some guys. And not like just one guy, not just like Debo. You're going to have to get rid of multiple guys as you're rebuilding your O&D lines. Because the Niners can keep drafting quarterbacks. Niners O line has to get better, and the Niners D line outside of Bosa has to get better. That's what they have to attack. They don't need any more wide receivers. Not to mention their special teams are amassed.

They may have to spend money in that department. So I'm just saying, here's Kyle Shanahan. It's just been a weird injury. Nobody's quite sure. A couple of MRIs. Here is Shanahan update on Brock Pretty's shoulder. We don't push that hard, but it's a light throwing, which was a good sign that the pain had to come back. and we'll rest it tomorrow

and see how he feels as the week go. I mean, most guys get, we always get more than the one when you get one and it seems alright and you have some pain later in the week so you get another one to make sure he done that's anything. And so that's what he did, I think, after the Thursday practice. Well, they're not going to Buffalo and went in without Brock Purdy. So he is their only shot.

I think Buffalo's playing really good football. I think what you've noticed, if you look at the AFC and the NFC playoff standings now, you're getting the separation. There's very few teams with a great quarterback that aren't viable. Cincinnati with a terrible defense doesn't feel terribly viable to me. Now that they go on a five-game winning streak, I could be wrong, certainly possible, favored over the very good Pittsburgh Steelers.

But it does feel like now you're getting kind of a sense is the best coaching, the best quarterbacks. I mean, in fact, I could make an argument. The Chargers are the best team in the best team. the league with no shot to win a Super Bowl. Of the five or six teams we think could get to a Super Bowl, the Chargers are the best team in the league of the teams that can't get there. Maybe Pittsburgh.

Maybe Pittsburgh. J-Mack thinks Cincinnati. Maybe the Chargers. But I don't think the Steelers or Chargers can get there or Cincinnati. But I think they're good, right? They all have their moments. All right. Hurt hierarchy.

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