The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - The Roast of Tom Brady

Episode Date: May 6, 2024

Colin discusses the Roast of Tom Brady and why this would never happen with today's NBA superstars Former Patriots QB Drew Bledsoe joins the show to talk about the Roast of Tom Brady and what it was like to attend in personSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It is a Monday. We are ready to roll. Live in Los Angeles, it's the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making up part of your day one hour from now. Where Colin was right, where Colin is wrong, there is plenty of both. So I think it's amazing, first of all, J-Mack.

I'm always amazed by technology. I tell the story one time. I'm in Manhattan Beach walking in the water and my daughter is in Cape Town, South Africa sitting in a small room and we FaceTime each other and I'm like, how's this possible?

Where's this happening? How is this happening? I'm amazed by technology. Last night, anywhere in the world, you could have gone into Netflix's app and watched the Tom Brady Roast and it was like, we live in an amazing place now. Used to be Roasts, we're like if you did Dean Martin, Johnny Carson, you know, you'd see clips of it 10 years later. The average guy

on the street, average person couldn't watch. stuff. So I thought it was remarkable that you had this massive roast with all these stars and the world could watch it live. That was pretty cool. Did you see any of it last night? Yeah, I was watching with the kids at dinner and Nikki Glazer makes a couple hilarious, inappropriate comments. I said, all right, we got to shut it down and I will watch the rest after work today. Yeah, Nikki Glazer is pretty funny. So it's one of the reasons I love football. There's a lot of reasons I love football. But one of the reasons I love it is it's a camaraderie. It's a family. It's a community.

And I'm watching this last night, and I'm thinking to myself, Belichick and Brady and Edelman and everybody's busting on everybody, you couldn't do that in the NBA. There's just too many egos. Rudy Gobert had a great line this weekend. He talked about the Timberwolves, and he said, I've been in this league a long time. I've never been part of a group that cares about each other

and wants to see other people shine. It's hard to get that in the NBA. It's not in the NFL. you see it every Sunday. It's not about getting mine. It's about getting ours. And that's why you can host that roast last night. The greatest coach of all time and the greatest football player of all time.

And people took shots at them for three and a half hours. And maybe it's due to the regulated level of violence that you need protection. You need an ally. But when you see a football player get hurt, hopefully not seriously, sometimes seriously. but when they get hurt, you see players go to a knee. Some start crying. They start praying. That's authentic.

That's how football works. It's bonding. It's sacrifice. It's family. I thought it was a great night for Belichick. I'll get into that after the break. But I thought last night is why I love football. Is that the best coach, the best quarterback.

And some of it was cringy. Some of it you don't want around your kids. But I did think there's been a lot of tension around Belichick and break. and there's just tension all around the room and you throw craft in there. I thought some of it was broken last night, a little bit lightened up last night. And I get it. The Shaq and Kobe dynasties. Like, I get it.

It's intense. The heedles breaks up. Feelings are hurt. But I thought last night mattered. I think this is why football's great, that people can laugh at themselves. It's not about getting yours. It's about getting ours. And here was a highlight of Jeffrey Ross, the great rober.

master and comedian, taking a shot at Tom Brady. Tom, I really wanted you to be our first goat to be roasted because you're an example to future generations that if you work hard, eat right, film the other team's practices, deflate the balls and have the NFL make new rules just for you. Then you too can be the third most famous guy in a Dunkin' Donuts commercial. That is perfect last night. We'll have more of it throughout the day. But I'm serious about this.

I think there's a lot of reasons I like football. It's the best sport on television. You can bet it. My wife would watch a football game. It's once a week. There's a scarcity advantage, all of it. But I think another big part of this is it's a collection. I sat on a plane yesterday flying back from Salt Lake City,

and I sat next to a gentleman, very successful gentleman, who is now an unpaid football coach. He does that part-time. For his kids, for the community, he cares, he loves it, he doesn't have to do it, and I really respect that. It's about ours, not mine. All right, speaking of the NBA, Anthony Edwards, he was in a really bad draft, and he was the only really great player, I think, out of a bad draft.

And he's been in Minnesota, and Kevin Garnett was in Minnesota for a long time, and then eventually had to leave to get a championship with the Boston Celtics. And Minnesota's always been a franchise that has some really interesting players, but, you know, they've got to get out of there to win. And I think it's always an advantage if you can stay, a Kobe Bryant, a Derek Jeter, where you can just stay in your place and win forever. I'm not anti-mobility.

I'm all for mobility. You know, in baseball, there's just a handful of franchises that can spend big money. You know, Yankees, Dodgers, Braves, Astros, a lot of these franchises, you got to go there to win championships, if you really care about championships. As good as the Minnesota Twins may be run or as great as the city is, you know, you pay Joe Moward 20 years ago and you can't pay anybody else. And in the NBA, there are some glamour franchises. The face of the league has overwhelmingly been like Philadelphia, Boston, L.A., maybe a Miami. It doesn't end up in Cleveland much.

LeBron James, who was a star when he was 16, changed that. So can Anthony Edwards be the face of the NBA, a league that's increasingly international and is dying for a face of the NBA? because KD, LeBron, and Steph are out of the playoffs, and that's not good. And I said it a couple of weeks ago, are we at an inflection point here? Does he want to be MJ or does he want to be Neek? And to be MJ, you've got to win brace face of the league and you've got to win several titles. One will not do. Barclay was great, never the face of the league.

And the West is deep and it's loaded, it's young, and the teams are all getting better. Now, it took MJ years to break through the Pistons and the Celtics. and I'm watching Minnesota beat Denver and Denver, and I'm thinking at 22 years old, is this kid breaking through? He's got several things that remind me of Michael Jordan. He's got that relentless energy. Like Jordan could play 36 holes of golf and then beat the Celtics later that night. This kid's got energy that's hard to duplicate. And the second thing is, he has an attack personality.

Jason Tatum's a nice kid. Aunt wants to dunk on you and talk trash to you and guard the best guy. And that's very, very MJ, and it's very attractive. We like our athletes to be aggressive. So, you know, there's not that many. When you go back to the 70s, there's not that many NBA icons. There's been a lot of great players. But the icons generally look different and play different.

I mean, Shaq's power, a magic's size at point guard. Larry Bird's passing and shooting. He was a forward. When I watched basketball in the 70s, forwards couldn't shoot. Shoot. Larry Bird walked into the league and was the best shooter and the best passer and he was a forward. Michael Jordan's relentlessness and style and aesthetics. And Edwards has a lot of that. He will dunk sometime during the game and you'll go, wow.

And then he'll often say something relatable and funny after the game. And it's not that I doubt him. I said this a week ago. I think we're at an inflection point. The league is looking for a face of the league. A lot of the international guys don't want to. necessarily be there. It helps to play college basketball a little. We meet you there. I thought it could have been Zion years ago. No, John Morant maybe. No. It looks like at 22 years old,

Aunt Edwards could be the guy. He doesn't have to win this series. He does not have to win. Now he's so young. But I did watch the game this weekend, and I thought, oh, he's easily the best player on the floor. Yokic didn't play well. Yokic did not play well. I'm sure he'll rebound. though Minnesota is so big they'll make it tough for him. But here was Ant after game one, not worried about the doubters. We're just coming out to play. It's not about introducing us to nobody. We know who we are.

We don't care what people say or what people think about us. We're a collective group. We trust each other. It's all between us, and we're well coach. So, you know, we're coming out, and as long as we got each other back, it don't really matter what anybody else think. We'll see.

A lot of fun. He was absolutely the best player on the floor in that game. 25 in the first half, took a little break in the third quarter. That's okay. He's human. He can't play at that level the entire game. But when it was over, I thought to myself,

okay, I still like Denver, but man, they're not going to have an answer athletically. They don't really have an answer for Ant. They've got a little bit, Minnesota got a little bit of an answer for Yokic because of their size. Denver doesn't really have an answer for your aunt. And that was always the thing with Jordan. You could have answers for a lot of the things the Bulls did,

but if Michael went relentless, where the steams coming off his head like twice a game, nobody in the league had an answer for it. Other teams had great offensive players. There's a Barclay here, there's a Gary Payton there, but nobody really had an answer for Mike and his prime. And that's generally when you're an icon. Like Jason Tatum, you feel like he's going to get his,

but can I make it difficult? When you watched Ant in that first half, Denver didn't even make it difficult, and they were trying, and it wasn't close, and it was in Denver, and it was high altitude. It's like, okay, that looks like somebody I remember. Two initials, MJ. So there you go. J-Mack, the roast, there's a lot of it we can't play

due to the fact that we're an over-the-air cable network, but some of it was really funny. Yeah, Kevin Hart, Nikki Glazer, Jeff Ross. Those are like the three best roasters, probably in America. They came out strong with their best stuff. The little I saw was outstanding. I don't know how you're going to play stuff on the show today. Drew Bledso, Peyton Manning.

Drew Bledsoe was funny. Manning was funny. Some people weren't as great, but I will tell you the fact that I thought Belichick was the biggest winner last night. And I want to talk about that. I know. I want to talk about that coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on

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I thought the big winner last night on the Brady Rost was Bill Belichick. He could laugh at himself. So if you watch that 10-part Patriot Apple TV documentary, whether or not a lot of people thought it was anti-Bill, whatever. One thing that was indisputable, he changed. Like maybe a marriage or being president changes a person, their hair color and their personality.

Belichick got more combative, more rigid, less collaborative. you know, Bill, and this is pretty public, at some point toward the end, after he had, you know, a trophy room and stacks of cash, he only wanted to coach certain players. Well, that's not the sport. So when Brady went to Tampa, he got sillier, happier, more relatable. It was more fun.

It was the more fun, Tom, right? Almost throwing a trophy into the bay, Tom. Belichick got like grumpier, and the league noticed. Forget my opinion. The league noticed. That's why old Andy Reid is doing commercials and could get hired tomorrow by 25 teams. And old Bill Belichick got one interview twice by the losing Atlanta Falcons.

Forget my opinion. That was the league's opinion. Bill needed to lighten up and be more collaborative. So this is one of my rules of life. Rigid and combative does not age well. It works while you're on top, but people will turn on you fast. And they did. The league turned on Bill.

And I think Bill spent an entire career as a coach spotting weakness and attacking it, and Bill Belichick deserves credit. He spotted his, and he's attacking it. He's going to be on Manning cast. He's going on TV and being funny. He's going to a roast and being made fun of. I thought Belichick was a huge winner last night. I thought he was a huge winner.

It's like, oh, this is the bill that Grunk told me about here at Fox. This is the bill Julian Edelman has told me about off air and on air. funny, smart, can laugh at himself. And if you go watch that Apple documentary, there's no question. You're watching it. And you're like, he's glib, he's firing back. And some of it, I get it. The media has too many do-gooders.

They can wear you out. They ask questions when you already have the answers. The media is not terribly likable. I'm part of the media. I'm not always likable. I get it. And you don't have to like us. We're like the IRS.

We're paid to audit. You like us when we give you a check back. You don't like when you're being audited. And that's what the means. was not built to be everybody's friend. It was built to audit. And so Bill got tired of it, and the Boston media can be snarky and angry and relentless. And I get it.

But I think the league told Bill, you've got to change, bro. Like, nobody wants, this is a collaborative league now. It's a Sean McVeigh League. It's a Shanahan League. It's a Kevin O'Connell League. People want to work together. It's no more authoritarian. I run the show, do your job.

And I thought Bill last night did himself a huge favor. Now, he may just stand broadcasting. the Rose, the Manning Cats, all that stuff's going to be good for Bill. But I just think he's too smart. And this is not a shot of anybody that's ever done TV. I told Sean Payton this when he was crushing it on our show last year every Monday. I'm like, you're too smart to be doing this. You've got too many ideas for football to do this.

Bill Parcells did TV and then went back. Bill Belichick, in the right environment, he's just too damn smart to be talking about football. He needs to be coaching it. And I think, but a year away from football, dealing with some of the nonsense that we We do. I think it'll lighten him up and actually help him. I felt that last night. And here was Kevin Hart during the roast. You and Bill are so far apart from each other. I just feel like, why do y'all take a shot together, man? Yeah. Yeah. Robert wants to do it. Bill? Poor Bill is shot.

Bill? Bill? This is a big moment, Bill. I want to say this is the greatest coach in the history of the game that did what no one else has done. And having Tom Brady and him was the greatest honor the good Lord gave me. So, cheers, good. Listen, I don't think Belichick is fond of Bob Kraft anymore. I think that's pretty obvious in that video. But again, you're not going to be fond of Bob Kraft anymore. you're not going to be fond to everybody you work for or work with or work under that's sports that's life jemack with the news

no no no turn on the news this is the herd line news bellichick's face what he was you know pretending to take the shot look like what am i doing here why do i have to be i don't he did not look thrilled that was the one person there he feels like that documentary was i mean there was many jokes about that he he thought that was a roast he thought it was they were going after for him for the entire documentary. And you can say whatever you want. My takeaway was Bill.

You didn't ingratiate yourself that last seven, eight years. I mean, Kraft, basically, if you think about it, Kraft stayed away from the whole thing until Garoppolo. Look how many bad owners we have. Look how many meddling owners we have. One of the only non-meddling owners in the league is Steve Boshaddy with the Ravens. Almost all these guys have egos. Kraft mostly stayed out of it.

He let Brady and Belichick get all the love forever. There's value in that. And in the end, he kind of felt like Bill treated him like crap, and he was going to say, okay, guy that owns the company gets to write the final chapter. That's how corporations work. And I don't think he likes Kraft. And I think Kraft is trying to make amends, and they both probably had a few pops in them. But in the end, you're not going to like everybody after you have a 25-year – I mean,

used to be there was a time when Jerry West, Phil Jackson, and Pat Riley were all friends. They're not anymore. It happens. All right. Let's start with the NBA. The Mavs knocked the Clippers out in game six on Friday. Blowout City in the second half. Kyrie Irving, my goodness.

of his 30 in the second half, matching his highest output of any playoff half in his career. Kyrie now 13 and 0 when his teams can clinch a series. Best record and close out games in NBA history. We briefly talked about that Friday on headlines. Colin, Luca Donch is still dealing with some knee issues, but he's at 28, 13, and 7. Mavs, OKC begins tomorrow.

Do you have any lean on this series? How you feel about the Mavs? matchups are phenomenal in this series. You know how they say styles make fights? Like you have to watch the first couple of rounds of a fight to see how the styles work.

That's what I feel like in this series. Can I watch a game to get a sense of it? Like I don't really know. I have a team that's sort of lobsided in Dallas, although they played great defense against Clippers. Like phenomenal.

Clippers averaged 100 a game. If Dallas plays that level of defense, They probably win. They've got veteran stars against young stars. But I want to see the first game. See the matchups. That's the vibe from a lot of people. I'll say this Maxie Kleber injury, AC joint out three weeks.

I know people are going to be like, oh, Maxie Klibb. He is a really pivotal chess piece who can play big or small, play the five. They put him on Chet Holmgren. I don't know how they stopped Chet Holmgren. The only thing is like he's a, what is he, 21-year-old guy? Like you don't have to worry about that. I'll go Mavs in six. I just, you know, I'm bullish on this bad team.

Is Cleaver coming back? Huh? Is the guy that got hurt coming back? Flavor, maybe for the conference finals, we'll see. But probably NBA finals. They need him, but I just, who guards Kyrie Irvin, Colin? He has been unbelievable in these playoffs. Like under control, calm, not ball hog guy.

This Kyrie Irving is the best Kyrie Irving. As good as we've seen since he played with LeBron, right? He's not a one. He's a perfect two. Well, the one is also about personality and reliability. One's not just production. So, Kyrie is a great, too. Luca, I think I get the same production every night, the same minutes, the same guy, pretty much, cranky with the officials.

But with Kyrie, being a number one, NBA fanboy thinks it's all about your jumper. No, it's not. I mean, Kauai Leonard's got number one talent. He's not reliable. He's not available. Next up, the Cleveland Cavaliers in Game 7 at Home Sunday. We're down by 18 in the first half, and Donovan Mitchell led it incredible coming. He had 39 points coming off his 50 burger in game six.

Here's Donovan Mitchell after his heroic comeback leading the Cavs to victory. So I'm tired of losing the first round. That's first and foremost and that's just, you know, that's, you work too hard, you know. We work too hard as a group. So that was kind of my mindset. For me, just be just being a tack-minded, you know what I mean going out, obviously, you know, battling through what I'm battling through, but I could battle through it and figure it out or I could rehab it for the next three or four months. That's kind of where I'm

back then. We accomplished one goal and now we can do it again. That's the mindset. Yeah. I, Mitchell, you think he's going to be in Cleveland one year from now? Well, they're going to approach him with the extension. Hey, Donovan, do you want to sign this four-year, $200 million deal? And he'll say, sure or no thanks, I'm good. I want to go elsewhere. I want to play elsewhere. I do not buy for a second the New York Nick rumors. I don't think he fits that at all. It's not a good fit. Yeah, not at all. But LA Lakers, they had to be impressed 89 points in the final

two games of the series. He's the scorer. There will be no questions if he goes to the Lakers. Now, how do you get him to the Lakers? It's difficult. Well, LeBron could take a pay cut. Oh, really? LeBron's going to take a pay cut. No, no, he's not. But if you wanted him, you could get him. There's a lot

of things you, Brady took pay cuts his entire career. What do you want to be? Totally different. Totally his wife was a supermodel worth $500 million. Like, that's a little different. Yeah, but Tom didn't have a shoe deal. NFL guys don't have shoe deals. So you can say Tom's wife was a supermodel, LeBron had a shoe deal that he's made 400 million on. So if you're Jeannie Bus and you say, LeBron, take a pay cut, you can get down to Mitchell. No, you'd hope the athlete would have the self-awareness to go, I want another great player that will make my life easier

and I won't have to be a seventh seed facing Denver. You know what I'd say to Jeannie Bus? Jeannie, that's one option. Or you could just go into the luxury tax. Why don't you pay the luxury tax and bring on Donovan Mitchell? I mean, LeBron was the first. You're a billionaire. I'm not... No, he is.

LeBron's the first active athlete. Oh, he's a billionaire official? Yeah. Take a little pay cut on the salary. I mean, California gobbles half of it anyway. Do you want to end your career getting knocked out in the first round? Or do you want a better player? Again, the NBA is all about let me get mine.

NFL's about we get ours. So what do you want to be? LeBron's not getting out of the 7-8 first round if he's going to just, I'm not the most money. Okay, good luck, champ. Knock it out. Sleep on that bet of cash. Have a big mansion. do you want to win? You're not beat Oklahoma City's getting better.

Dallas's not getting worse. Minnesota's not getting worse. Denver's not getting worse. I just, I don't. Okay. I mean, again, I don't care. But once you hit that billionaire, NBA guys, you can always point to a lot of things. NFL guys don't have shoe deals. So NBA guys have a second revenue stream that baseball guys don't get. NFL guys don't get. Hockey guys don't get. So I don't want to hear about money. You have a, you have a second. By the way, that revenue stream. is even tax differently. And some guys make more in the shoes than they make in their basketball. I mean, Michael Jordan's made a thousand times more. So again, if you don't want to consider that...

Well, I don't... I mean, it's tough to say, hey, take a pay cut when you look around the league, and there's 10 guys making more than you, and you're still in year 21 and one of the best guys in the league. Michael Jordan was never the highest paid guy in the league. Until he demanded it late in his career. Late. But when he was dominating the league...

He's still dominated. He's an all-N-B-A-guy. He's been, like, highest-paid guy for a long time. Again, what do you want? What manners? I want my owner to spend whatever it takes to win a championship. That's what I want. Well, there's salary caps, and this is not a rich ownership group.

Steve Volmer will pay the luxury tax. Joe Laker will pay the... Then maybe LeBron needs to go to another team that'll pay the luxury tax. The Lakers are not going to pay that tax. Jeannie Bus is arguably the poorest owner in the league. You know who's paying the taxes here? Minnesota. Guess where they're going?

Maybe the finals. You want to be the best, you got to pay these guys. That's right. I just don't like the idea of pay cuts, especially for LeBron. But anyways, final story is Aaron Rogers, turning over a new leaf column. Listen to this. So Robert Sala said Rogers is not going to have any restrictions when they reach the phase three of the OTAs. And Rogers took to the podium and has apparently invited third round rookie Malachi Corley to live in his guest house.

Nice. Yeah, I only talked to him on draft night. You know, I've texted him last couple nights. I'm just like a little kid. Like, you know, he's the adult. He's the MVP Hall of Famer, all those type of things. So I'm just like a little kid talking to him all the time. I'm texting him, trying to see what he's done to stay consistent in the league,

the things that he's done. He said I can stay in his guest house if I want to. So, yeah, me and him were close. That's going to be my dog while I'm here. No doubt. That's very nice of it, very thoughtful of it. He's got a hell of a reel. That black Smedium shirt he was wearing making the guns look huge.

My take on this is this is like a page out of Tom Brady's book. When Tom Brady left New England to go to Tampa, I'm going to do whatever it takes. I'm going to invite Antonio Brown to live with me. something wrong with that. I know. But that's what Rogers are doing. He's just copying Tom Brady. He just wants to be Brady. I wouldn't go. I think I think this is good. I think

Aaron's toward the end of the road. He's hated rookies his entire career in Green Bay. Right? Remember he doesn't like playing with young guys. Didn't like Christian Watson and whoever the other guy was. Well, let's be fair, though. You know, you get into this old Manning, old Brady,

old Aaron. They don't have a lot of patience. They don't feel like it's their job to teach you how to run a route. Like, I mean, again, you want to play with these guys. You need them, but I understand a quarterback. I do understand older quarterbacks who have a year left, not wanting to spend a year and a half teaching you the route tree. So I think, and it's not that they won't play with them, but I think if you ask Brady or Aaron Rogers, they'd love, I mean, he loves Garrett Wilson. But there's a reason he wanted Alan Luzard or Randall Cobb, guys that understand, again, coach's job is to teach, a quarterback's job is to win. And so I will defend the older quarterbacks who don't want a roster full of, that's why I said they should go get a tackle, a roster full of young receivers, and maybe your last year is a pro.

Like, I get it. Like Aaron wants to win right now. And by the way, Brady took pay cuts. A lot of these quarterbacks could make more money. They want to win now. That's why you'll see these quarterbacks. backing on the table for a veteran-wide receiver and not necessarily always banging the table for a great young receiver. Or could it be that Aaron Rogers banged the table last year for Alan Lazard and Randall Cobb? We saw how those worked out and the Jets said, you don't have to, you don't get to pull all the strings this year, Aaron. Sorry, you don't get to call all the shots. We're bringing on this third round guy.

You need to gel with him. I think the Jets are hopefully pushing back against some Aaron Roger stuff. Remember last year he got everything he wanted? They rolled over, gave him everything. Well, that's how you got him. Yeah. If you could get everything from a company and you could, and it may only happen once in your career,

would you not ask for it? I mean, you're never going to get it in your life. Aaron didn't get what he wanted every time. I earned that if they're coming to me and giving me everything. That's right. That's what Aaron is saying. Oh, Aaron earned it? Well, I was MVP multiple times.

I got a Super Bowl. You're the New York Jets. I'm going to come here, but you have to give me what I want. Off a crap year that he had. Tom Brady, get me a right tackle, get me Grong, get me A, B, and get Arian's upstairs. Brady showed up with how many Super Bowl rings? Well, a ring counts two, not just nine, eight.

Like a decade ago? God. I mean, was I even living in L.A. at the time? I thought you were a Jets fan. I am, but I'm just salty about Rogers. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

The Heard Lye News. So I'm looking at the next round of these playoffs series. Thunder Mavericks, O KC Mavericks, Minnesota, Denver, Boston, Cleveland, Indiana, Nix. The NBA really needs the NICS and Jalen Brunson to carry the NBA rating. So Celtics and NICs, those are the only kind of national brands that really hit. This playoffs feels like the Yankees are in it and the Braves and then it's the Baltimore Orioles six times. like you need the Knicks to win this series.

So there was once a Spurs Nets final in the NBA, and I mean nobody watched. And there's no question in my mind. Like if Caitlin Clark, if the WNBA season was going on right now, Caitlin Clark would get better ratings in the WNBA than a couple of these series would get, and I'm dead serious. So Jalen Brunson is really important, not just the New York market, but there's a lot about this team to like.

Is that they're underdogs, they play hard, It's an effort team. They're an underdog. It's the New York market. There's celebrities in the crowd. It feels really big on TV. But that would make it... You put the Knicks and the Celtics in the Eastern Conference finals.

That feels to me very palatable. By the way, Drew Bledsoe, who was at the roast last night, and very funny, is coming up next. Eric Mangini watched the whole thing. He was there for the early days of it, got several rings. He'll be joining us today where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, at the top of next hour on a Monday as well. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, I'm Doug Gottlie. The podcast is called All Ball. We usually talk all basketball all the time,

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And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode

where we've discussed crack, so I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now, so... Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Early in his career, the first like 15, 16 years, you know, having LeBron guaranteed you a trip to the finals, you got 44 minutes. He was the best player on the game in every game he played. He would take a series over even if they were outmaned. now he's still a playmaker the lakers best playmaker and he still gives you bursts of amazing nobody would dispute that but he doesn't guarantee anything so if somebody guarantees something it's a different relationship i'm willing to do almost everything but if you don't guarantee me anything and lebron doesn't they were a seventh seed so this constant need by lebron to have like the perfect coach and the perfect roster bro got to take a pay cut if you want a better roster because this the rosters you've been on the last several years are not perfect and are not close. And remember, when LeBron first came to the Lakers, there was a lot of old heads in the West.

Denver's young, O.K.C.'s young. Minnesota is a mix of old and young. Sacramento's young. You know, the two L.A. teams? Kind of old. Clippers, injured and old. Lakers, healthier and old. But, you know, I think, and I also think when J.J. Reddick's your friend,

and that's one of the better candidates, I think anytime a friend is a top candidate for any business, can that friend hold you accountable? But I do think there was a time with LeBron. He just guaranteed me things. So Dan Gilbert could complain or Pat Riley didn't like it, but he guaranteed a trip to the finals, and he could win him about half the time.

That's a different relationship. That's totally different, but you don't get the guarantees anymore. So LeBron's done a very good job to kind of carefully craft his image. You know, but I don't think anybody buys it anymore. we all know that Darwin Ham got a vote of confidence and a week later he was fired. That doesn't happen. I mean, your wife doesn't say,

I love you more than anything in the world. Six days later, she files for a divorce. Somebody fooled around. Like something happened. You don't go for that pendulum swing. So this was a LeBron or a clutch sports. They can deny it all they want, but nobody's buying any of it.

And I think nobody's buying what LeBron is selling, which is, hey, man, it's not my job. I just play. No, you do more than that. And I don't think Darvinham was the best coach in the league. I don't think he's Pop or Spolstra or Steve Kerr. But I don't think at this point, who would want that job? Again, the Lakers are now going to hire their eighth coach in 14 years.

That is a, that's a, I mean, you're getting into New York Jets territory. Who wants the job? Who wants the job? So Rick Bucher, last week, on, you know, how hard it is at this stage to appease LeBron? We're catering to you. If it doesn't work, I'm not going to blame other people. We did what you asked us to do. We got you who you wanted to get.

And then there's nothing wrong with failing. It's just abdicating the responsibility of that. Darvindham by no means was perfect in the job that he did, but you're not going to find somebody who's going to fix this roster, this group with a 39-year-old LeBron James as your closer still, and win a championship. All right.

Let's go. Now, listen, Drew Bledso does not have to come on our show today. People were having a good time last night, and Drew Bledsoe was one of the funnier guys out there willing to take a shot at Tom. Now, look at it. So you look like you're about ready. You need to be hydrated, and you're about ready to play golf. Am I right with both of those?

You are, and what I really need right now, Colin, I need an IV is what I need. We went to the after party at the comedy store and stayed there way, way too late, and now we're getting ready to go tee it up. Let me ask you this, though. You probably had expectations going in. I thought, oh, there's a lot of tension here. This is going to be a little. How did it deliver based on your expectations, flying down from the Northwest,

getting to L.A. and what you were expecting? You know, I mean, I knew it was going to be rough on Tom, and I knew they were going to come back at me, too. You know, I mean, a roast is a roast, right? You got to go all in. Otherwise, it doesn't work. But, man, it was so damn funny, Colin. And just sitting there.

I was glad that I was up early. There was a lot of pressure to go early. You know, people have been drinking very much, so I actually had to be funny. They couldn't just be wasted. And, but I was really glad I went early. So then I got to just sit back and laugh the rest of the time, man. It was funny as hell. So when it was over, I mean, literally, there was a moment with Belichick and Kraft at the podium with Kevin.

Bill looked like the last place on earth he wanted to be. I get it. He hated the documentary. I get it. But I will tell you this, Drew, I thought Belichick was a winner last night. He laughed. He laughed at himself. And I think Bill, the last several years, you know, came across as a little combative and rigid.

I thought Bill handled that. I thought Bill was one of the winners last night. Your thoughts? Yeah, I agree with you, Colin. I think he, you know, Bill, look, you get him out of the office. He is a funny guy. He's a good person. You know, he's obviously very prickly around the office and in a professional setting.

Yeah. But I thought, I thought that was good for him last night. I didn't know if he was going to be there. They didn't, I don't think they knew if he was going to be there until, like, maybe two days ago. And, yeah, I definitely thought he was a winner last night. Come in and, you know, be able to laugh at himself and be a little bit lighthearted. And then he and, he and Kraft, before the show, they got some time to break it down just the two of them.

And nobody knows what was said, but the two of them got to spend some time together, which was great. Yeah. Tom was mostly comfortable, but I sat there and I thought, oh, man, I can laugh at myself, but it's pretty rough. Was there ever a moment you thought, man, we're being rough? We're being rough. We're going after everything here. You know, oh, man, some of the, some of the, some of the, some of the, the crypto stuff. I had honestly almost forgotten about that and they went deep on that stuff on him.

And then, but, you know, I mean, the truth is with Tom, you know, I mean, you can't make fun of his career, you can't make fun of his accomplishments. So you got to go personal. And I think that's, that's what he signed up for. You know, I mean, I don't have a lot of stuff to make up, make fun of him for, but I can make fun of the fact that he's not married anymore. So that's where I had to go. man he was uh no he was a good sport and uh you know i communicated with him before that and his his point was look man all this stuff's already been said like none of this is brand new material um and so he's like might as well just say it to my face instead of uh just saying outside but yeah dude i'll tell you what i'll tell you was what was uh what was pretty

interesting though man you're sitting up there and you know everybody's on teleprompters and got all this stuff written before but dude rob gronkowski is just rob gronkowski And that's what he's best at, is being grok. And so I'm up there looking at the teleprompter, like, dude, this guy is so far off script. I don't know if he's ever going to get back. And they weren't faking it, man. He and Kevin Hart were drinking lots of tequila sitting up there last night. Man, it was funny.

Well, I'm glad you wore sunglasses. I don't need to see those red eyes. Go hit one under. I know where you're at. It's a great course. Good luck to you. Yeah, going low today. playing again with a bunch of the

bunch of the comedians today. So at the very least, we're going to laugh a lot. And then I'm going to go home and get some rest for a couple days, man. I'm too old for this stuff. He won't even drink his own wine for a couple days. Drew Bledsoe. It's great seeing you, man.

You too, Colin. Always good, man. See you. All right. Yeah. He had one of the funnier jokes. He had one of the funnier jokes. He was good.

And, you know, it's interesting because Drew, he's a Patriot Hall of Famer. People forget this. He got a $100 million contract. Back when in sports, that was a lot. And they moved off him because of that injury. And it was rough there for him. And a lot of people have minimized what he did.

But Drew is one of the five best college quarterbacks, I think I've ever seen. He was an unbelievable town. To be a number one pick out of Washington State, think about that. A lot of these number one picks comes from your Michigan's, your USC's, your big schools. You're number one out of Washington State. How good do you got to be? So it's good that he and Brady chop it up and get along. But it was pretty raw.

Gronk is, I mean, I worked with Gronk on the set, on the pregame show a couple times. He's just so, I mean, he just is such a unique guy. You can't really script Gronk. Would you ever subject yourself to something like that? A roast, would you just sit there? Yeah, I mean, when Jeffrey Ross is doing it, yes, you do. It's funny.

I mean, it's you are part. There was one moment Brady didn't like. Yeah. Well, come on. I mean, we all know there's. I mean, listen, Tom took shots at Tom. He didn't like a shot at Kraft. But Tommy just sat there and laughed at it.

He had a couple good lines as well. Yeah. You had, so how old are your kids? 11 and 13. So I, 11 and 13 is an interesting age. Yeah, it is. Because I think one time I took my kids to a movie, and it was go either way. But my feeling was my kids were pretty bright, and I thought.

And then when I got home from the movie, I was like, my son had a little nightmare. And I was like, yeah, probably shouldn't. It wasn't a thriller, but it was a little. I mean, the cuss words are not a big deal. Kids hear cuss words all the time. It's some of the graphic details. Yeah. Yeah, I'll just.

So you rolled the dice on it for your 11 and 13-year-old. It didn't last long. Now your wife signed up for it. She does not know about any of this. Oh, yeah, great. She was at the Beach Life Festival. I was like, I'm not doing that. I got to watch a roast.

And, you know, the soccer team had a big games. She's not. son goes around the house repeating some of the phrases that Nikki Glazer used. So I let my son when he was young watch Spider-Man. And, you know, little boys can be aggressive. And he was in a jump around the house and break furniture. Oh, yeah. And I let him watch Spider-Man. And for like three days, he was attacking lamps. And I'm like, bad call by me. No, come on. That's fun. It wasn't, Ann didn't think it was that funny. Oh, okay. You break a couple of Ann's lamps that she ordered, you know. Yeah, a little worked up, yeah. Yeah, and didn't, didn't play well in the house.

all right we got all sorts of stuff Colin Wright you know what I'm going to do later we were talking about this if you did a Patriot pyramid who mattered most Brady's at the top it is interesting when you go back 20 years

in that Patriot pyramid four bottom three two Tom Top who's there and who's not now that's just my opinion but I lived in Connecticut for 11 years and so I watched every preseason game every snap for 11 years and they

kind of became my favorite team because you just kind of fall in love with anything you watch every day. So I'll give you my Patriot Pyramid next hour as well. It's the hurt. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman

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