The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - The Steelers offense is awful

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

Colin points out some serious flaws the Steelers have and why it's time to start asking questions about head coach Mike Tomlin He gives his reasons as to why he doesn't think Aaron Rodgers isn't the Jets best player Caitlin Clark has proven she is a complete WNBA player See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, we've got a good one today, live in Los Angeles. On a Monday, it's the herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Chris Collinsworth stops by Vince Young, Texas football legend, stops by Ian O'Connor, who's got that great book. I'm wrapping it up on Aaron Rogers. It's absolutely fascinating. J-Mack, also one hour from now where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong.

So we have a packed show today. And you know what I'm really happy about? You are seeing Caleb Williams play the entire half. Bo Nix is getting a lot of drives in Pittsburgh. They're only playing Russell, Wilson, and Justin Fields. Like, they've got to figure it out. So I feel like there's been a little bit of a pivot back to, let's play the quarterback some snaps.

and the last couple of pre-seasons have been just, like, I mean, basically third-string guys. So I feel good about this. Yeah, Bo Nicks. Woof. He looks great. So let's start with the Steelers. Good God, are they awful offensively? Again.

So, listen, if Belichette can get fired, if Andy Reid can get fired, and Pete Carroll can get fired, I know he got an extension, but we can be critical of Mike Tomlin. I mean, Russell Wilson had five drives and one first down. Pass protection was awful. He and Justin Fields, and they're mobile. Ten quarterback hits, four sacks. And these guys run well. They can't run the football.

Now, they've tried that the last several years, last year, middle of the pack. So in the last five years, Pittsburgh is 30th. 30th in total yards per game. Below Carolina. Below teams, dysfunctional teams like the Raiders and Washington, below, only the Jets and Giants are worse. And it doesn't matter if it's old Big Ben, young Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph, doesn't matter. And now these guys, two mobile guys, they can't move the ball.

Pass protection is terrible. And by the way, Russell Wilson and Justin Fields, the last two years, are the most sack quarterbacks in the league. So if you're wondering why Justin Fields looks skittish and Russell is Captain Checkdown this weekend, they don't want to get hit. Would you want to get hit? if the last couple years you're the most sack guy in the league, I wouldn't want to get hit either.

And so when you watch this kind of ineptitude on one side of the ball, it's coaching. I'll tell you why. Because organizations, the last 10 years, like Washington, the ownership was bad. They couldn't draft and develop. That's just a broken franchise. The Raiders have felt like a broken franchise. I would say the Jets and the Giants right now.

Jets have some players. let's not, you know, let's not be dishonest about that. They got some dudes. But they kind of feel like a broken franchise. Pittsburgh doesn't. Pittsburgh drafts well. Really well. They develop well.

They have excellent ownership. They're not the biggest spenders, but they're not cheap. And yet defensively, they're always elite. Yet they're completely utterly inept on one side of the ball. That's on the head coach. He's run through coordinators. He's run through quarterbacks. That's on Mike Tomlin.

They are awful. When a business is not broken, does many things fundamentally well, and you have a department of the business. You know, maybe the sales part of your business is lousy, but the marketing's good, the engineering's good. Well, then you have to go, as the CEO, you've got to go to the sales manager and replace the sales manager, because everything else is humming at the company. like Pittsburgh does everything well.

They draft, they develop, free agency, they're smart, it's stable. They are just inept offensively. Young, old, Mason Rudolph, doesn't matter who the quarterback is. Justin Fields and Russell Wilson are running for their lives. So this is Mike Tomlin's culture. It's his locker room. It's his offensive coordinator. It's his responsibility.

And Tomlin acknowledged, it's not. not good on that side of the ball. It's somewhat of an incomplete study because you just don't get a chance to see them operate or us operate or us establish rhythm and personality when you're not winning possession downs. And we weren't, you know, the first three or so series of the game, it was, you know, three and out, and you're not going to get an opportunity to establish rhythm or play the way that you would like as an individual or a collective. We didn't do a good enough job of protecting the quarterback.

We got to do a better job in past protection than we did, not only in possession downs, but just in general. And I was really up front with the group about it. In that regard, that can't be a problem for us. We got to be better than we were tonight in that area. They haven't been good for like seven years in that area. And they can't produce a rhythm now last year, the year before, the year before. Again, I think Tomlin would be a great broadcaster.

I don't think he's a bad coach. But we're running Andy Reid out of Philly and Pete Carroll out of the NFL and Belichick out of New England. This is the coach's responsibility. How many OCs we've had in the last seven years? I mean, draft mix. This is an organization like Green Bay that drafts and develops really, really well. It's on Mike. Okay, so I was later today, next hour, we have Ian O'Connor, a friend and a great New York Times bestselling author, the Aaron Rogers book.

It's all over everywhere. I saw Fox News talking about it. You got the other networks talking about it, other shows on this network. It's getting tons of play on podcasting, and it deserves it. Really interesting book. But, you know, and it's about Aaron Rogers. And it's fascinating, his family and the complexities and how far treated him poorly. And it's not all bang on Aaron.

It's a deep, complex look into a complex guy. But, you know, it's funny. I was thinking about this. So the last time Aaron Rogers made a Pro Bowl was 2021. one. So since that time, C.J. Stroud is coming to the league. He's a top 10 quarterback. Now, in 2020, Burrow, Herbert, Tua, Jordan Love, Jalen Hertz, all got drafted. And about that time, just before Aaron's last Pro Bowl, they've all exploded. They're all much better today. So if you look at the AFC, I mean, the NFL quarterback play has exploded last five, six years. But

even since Aaron Rogers won his last Pro Bowl in 2021. And I think by 2021, it had been established as Aaron was making his last Pro Bowl. Mahomes was better. Josh Allen was bigger, stronger. Lamar did things Aaron couldn't. So physically, by the time he made his last Pro Bowl, he wasn't as dynamic as Lamar, as Josh, as Mahomes, top of the class. And now Burrell's better. And two is better.

And Hertz is better. And Herbert has Harbaugh and C.J. Stroud and Trevor, Lawrence has his best roster. And a lot of the young quarterbacks I like, or quarterbacks I like, have offensive head coaches or great coordinators. C.J. Stroud, Matt Stafford, Mahalms, like Trevor Lawrence, Deshawn Watson, Tua, Brock Purdy, Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert finally. They have offensive coaches or great coordinators we love.

Jared Goff has Ben Johnson. You know, CJ Stroud's office. offensive coordinator. Going to be a head coach next year. Aaron's got Nat Hackett and Robert Sala. And it's taken four snaps in 500 plus days. So this idea, I was, I got into this discussion this weekend. This idea that thank God the Savior is back.

Well, Soss Gardner is a better corner than Aaron is a quarterback. And Quinn and Williams is a better defensive tackle than Aaron is a quarterback. And my guess is, you will find out this year that Garrett, Wilson's a better receiver than Aaron is a quarterback, and Bruce Hall is a better running back. He's top three in the league, I think when healthy, than Aaron is a quarterback. The defense is better than the offense. Are we sure Aaron Rogers is the savior? And instead, we will look at this team by Thanksgiving and going, I'd like to be a little

younger and more dynamic at quarterback. This idea that Aaron's going to save it, he's not their best player. Sauce Gardner, Quinn and Williams, Garrett Wilson, these are top of the the class guys. I think Breese Hall when healthy, there's an argument. He's a top two back in the league. That kid is explosive. I do think the offensive line will

get better this year. Cross your fingers on Tyron Smith's health and Elijah Vera Tucker's health and the rookie from Penn State. But you start looking around. I've watched old quarterbacks fall off a cliff. Peyton Manning was in Super Bowls. Then he was 39, had nine touchdowns and 17

picks, fell off a cliff. I watched Brett Far, fall off a cliff. 11 touchdowns, 19 picks the year after he was sensational in Minnesota. Aaron's the oldest player in the league, coming off a major surgery. Again, his last season in Green Bay, he had a lower passer rating with a good O line, with a good running game. He got a lower passer rating with a good coach than Daniel Jones. I think New Yorkers are going, oh, this is the savior.

Saviors are usually players. in their prime like Aaron Judge or Shohei Otani like saviors are Mahomes or Josh Allen they're players in their prime often inexpensive early in their prime so you know I I kind of look at this and and that's not to mention all the side stuff with Aaron which this book points out I mean Eric Manjini is one of the nicer guys I've ever worked with and he tends to be pro and pro franchise. But, I mean, even he has, he had this blunt

kind of opinion last week on Aaron's character, which is, you cannot deny it once you read this book. He doesn't care. We don't care. We doesn't care about the other 10 guys. He cares about himself. And with Tom Brady, Tom was coachable. Tom wanted to be coached.

And even though Tom was the greatest at that position, he was open to ideas that could make him better. but for Aaron he is just going to do whatever he wants to do whatever is best for him you other 10 guys if it's not good for you

if it's not good for the coaching staff it's not good for anybody else it doesn't matter he's not wrong Ian O'Connor one hour from now Colin Wright Colin wrong as well I don't want to I don't want to go hard on the Jets

but I will say this he is not the best player on the team and I think it will be established very early he's not a top four player on the team. Sauce, Quinnon, Garrett, Breece, our dynamic jump off a TV screen. He's taking four snaps in 500 days, and he's 40.

And I watch Manning and Farrv. Fall off a Caliph. Don't you, he's not LeBron, and he's not Brady. He is not that obsessive about his health. He did not get that DNA. He's not as big as Tom. He's not as obsessed as Tom.

Tom. He's not as big as LeBron. LeBron's a freak of nature. Aaron's just really talented. He's not a freak of nature. Just saying, you think he's the savior. I think you could look up. I think you could look up and look around at a C.J. Stroud and a Burrow

and a Trevor Lawrence and a Herbert with Harbaugh and Josh Allen and Lamar and Deshawn's got Stefansky and go, I wish we were a little younger at quarterback and moved a little better. I don't think that's crazy. J-MAC, I know that starts your week with a bit of a thud, a negative.

Come on. We're buddies. It's Monday. It's a great week ahead. It is. You have a really great week coming up. I have a good week coming up. There's no need to take a dump on the Jets to start the show.

Where's it, Caleb Williams? I expected you to come out here basically saying he's the savior of the NFL and he's going to... Well, we will say he is interesting, man. He played the first half. Couldn't take my eyes off him. It's almost like Brock Purdy. When I watch him in playoff games, just dominating. I'm like, oh, can't take blast.

How was Brock this weekend without starters? I don't know. I didn't watch preseason. 11 yards passing. Not what, how many? 11. It's funny. When you put him on a roster equivalent to Carolina, what was he?

11 yards passing. Here we go. Is he really combative today? You're choosing violence, huh? Okay. So, do you see the Caitlin Clark over the weekend? Oh, yeah. I saw that.

Wow. Like, that is something, man. We are watching. This is magic. And I had a thought. about not just Caitlin Clark and women's basketball, but it may be a nightmare for Major League Baseball, and I'll tell you that coming up.

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Not the best players in the league, but all-star-level players. And Caitlin Clark just set the record for a WNBA rookie record for assist. She is a complete playmaker. And I'm watching it this weekend, and I'm watching all the NFL and NBA players and different pro athletes and celebrity go on social media and they're watching the WNBA. And I don't see that with baseball a lot. And I was just thinking about this.

If you ran a sports network, and these are big decisions, and you could have a 10-year contract with a WNBA or a 10-year contract with baseball and the WNBA is one-eighth the price, what would you choose? What would you choose? Basketball players last forever.

She could play for 15 years. This is a rookie season. This is Angel Reese's rookie season. WNBA's got a younger audience. It's growing quickly. It's got a greater ceiling, relatively inexpensive TV rights, right in the middle of the summer. We know this was stocks and Wall Street. It's all about timing and purchase price.

This league is a buy. Now, it was growing before Caitlin Clark, much better than the NBA or baseball. It was growing. She's the accelerator. And when something is truly big, it doesn't just elevate their business. it kills other businesses. Uber killed taxis. Didn't just make our life easier. It killed taxis.

I mean, Connor McGregor not only elevated UFC, it feels like he was the beginning to the end of boxing. And I'm watching Caitlin Clark, and I'm watching this, and I'm like, there's a reason Major League Baseball in the last two years is making wholesale changes, international games. Let's put a man at second base. The pitch clock. Now they are introducing, they want to introduce next year. starters have to pitch six innings unless they get hurt. Why is baseball making these moves? Because ESPN has told them, we're not buying your sport.

And Fox doesn't have as keen interest in it either because Fox is an NFL college football World Cup network. That's what it is. Every network makes choices, you know? And we have chosen football. And I totally agree with it. I just, I'm looking at this. these arenas, this energy, the celebrities, the ratings right in the middle of the summer.

And you look at baseball's changes, they are making these changes because they have to. NBC's not interested. The Major League Baseball Apple deal was a mess. The Roku deal is embarrassing. Like, this is not going away. Women's basketball is smack dab in the summer. It's catching fire. She's a rookie.

It's not like Larry Bird and Magic got smaller over time. It usually takes America a while. We're very distracted. This is a political year. There are just some people that are sitting on Fox News, MSNVC, or CNN, and will be for the next six months. Right? Like, that's what happens.

This is their rookie year. We have, you know, it's an election year. This was a World Cup year. When the summer next year is all open for the WNBA, what do the ratings do then? So this was a sport that was growing, but between the celebrities and the upside and the youth, you know, it's not like the NBA didn't exist pre-Magic and Bird, but over the next 10 years, it became a monster, and it replaced a lot of baseball talk.

It replaced some college football talk. Even a lot of the times, Magic and Bird overshadowed the NFL. So I'm just watching this and thinking, Caitlin Clark is. emotional and she can be chippy and she's getting technical fouls and she is a playmaker she is i know it's a little step curry here and she talked about her tea after the game i got a technical for basically being mad at myself because i missed the three and then i went and hit the backboard and he told me it was disrespectful to the game of basketball so i don't know it reminded me of the technical that i got in college where i said damn it where it's like a personal frustration

had nothing to do with my team had nothing to do with their roughing had nothing to do with other team. It was just because I'm a competitor. But I think he fired me up to continue to play a lot harder. I thought we got a lot better after he did that. So I want to thank him. Yeah, this, we are at the, this has been a very distracted summer. It's Kamala,

it's Trump, it's Kopa, it's the Euros, it's the World Cup. You take all that stuff out and just say, here you go, Caitlin Clark. I mean, I say this, Angel Reese is important, too. I think she just set a rookie record for double doubles.

So we're going to have, this rivalry is at the very beginning. It is going nowhere. When you watch baseball's changes, they're seeing the numbers. They're seeing right now, if I was a sports network, I would buy the WNBA. I got three months in the summer. What else is there? Little League World Series, regular season baseball. I would buy any package I could of the WNBA.

And I did not feel that 18 months ago, 12 months. ago. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Let's start with your Chicago Bears and Caleb Williams, Colin. Listen, he's had, he's been compared a lot to Patrick Mahomes, and that was before he took his first preseason snap.

Well, this weekend, we saw Tyreek Hill teasing Caleb, and Caleb said after the game, he downplayed his amazing performance, which he was compared to Mahomes. That's respect. You know, it's cool and all. But, you know, I'm Caleb Williams, Patch Mahomes, Patch Mahomes, Tyree Kiel. You know, much love to them and things like that. Met him, talked to him both and things like that. But, you know, we're here to win games for Chicago Bears.

He looked, man, they played him some snaps, too. We got into this weird thing for a couple years, that nobody played anybody in the preseason. You're seeing like, Bo Neck's taking real snaps. Caleb Williams playing an entire half. I'll tell you something. This is between the college football realignment and between these young quarterbacks, I'm telling you, I cannot wait.

The one o'clock window, you're going to get a lot of these Jayden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Bo Nicks, are going to be the one o'clock window. Right? Like the power teams, the Packers, the Lions, the Niners, the Eagles, the Chiefs, Baltimore. CBS and Fox are going to put those NBC, late window games.

The one o'clock window is going to be. be exhilarating this year. I just, I don't want to pour cold water on what Caleb did over the weekend. It was fun, exciting. It was the backyard football stuff, which we were early on. I don't think other shows were talking about the backyard football, and it really caught up with him against Notre Dame.

Remember? He thought he could just make plays, scramble around, and Notre Dame destroyed him. It was like an embarrassing performance. You had some of these draft guys say, oh, I don't know if you could take him one. Look, he's struggling. The backyard football is fun, Colin. But he has to win from the pocket. He does. Vanilla defense, as he's seeing now.

The stuff he was doing this weekend in the preseason, it was splashy. You cannot live continuing that like 15 times a game. That's not going to work, Colin. As it takes two years for the lights to go on for young quarterbacks, Lamar, Mahomes Moore, Josh Allen. It is an advantage to be able to run around. Russell Wilson. Even Mahomes admitted year three, the light went off. The game slowed down.

So I do think it's an advantage to not be Jared Gough, to not be just a pocket passer. as you're learning the pocket, you can move the chains with your feet. And I think that's... And the other thing is, Chicago's been so unwatchable offensive. It's just fun to watch the Bears play. If you're a consumer, you live in Chicago. You can't wait to go to the games because it's such a magic trick. I mean, it's just last year they were so bad in the fourth quarter.

I mean, if they had a lead, they lost it. There was only like one way to win, and it was turnovers. I think they were two and six in one-score games. They were just... Blue 3, fourth quarter league. And this is a team that won seven games. As such, I know Bears fans are going to be unhappy at talking about the backyard football.

I've upgraded the Bears to a playoff team in the NFC over the Vikings. Remember I had Vikings a couple weeks ago? There's just too much positive stuff with the Bears guys. Well, they have too many good players. Just riddle me this. Who was the last number one quarterback to come into the league and have this array of weapons at his arsenal? I mean, last year his number two receiver was Darnell Mooney.

Okay? Now it's like Keenan-A. Allen, Roma Dense looks like a player. They upgraded tight end, running back. They've got so many weapons. And I also think they've got their tackles, right? I think their O-line has taken a lot of criticism, but their GM's a former O-Lineman.

And I actually think Justin Fields holding on the ball that long makes you believe the O-line's bad. I watch the Bears games. The O-line's not terrible. It's not top six. It's not Detroit. It's not Atlanta, but it's not the Giants. It's a, you can win.

playoff games with that O line. It's fine. I think the biggest question for me is that's right. That's right. Same thing. I don't doubt their personnel. I wish they had one more edge rusher. Well, he's coaching for his job. When guys are coaching for their job, they tend to get a little tight. Hey, Caleb, let's not drop back 25 times a game. We want to hand the ball off and win with defense. This improved, you know, and if you see that, like,

it is interesting. Sometimes in sports, you get the perfect combination of coach. You know, like Brady was a brilliant offensive mind, Belichick, a brilliant defensive mind. Andy Reed and Spaggs. They're both geniuses at what they do. And I will say Iber Fluse has one advantage as a defensive coach. Defensive coaches struggle for whatever reasons with O-line development.

His general manager is a former offensive lineman and drafts the position well, and he's got a magical quarterback that can add lib off script. And so if you were a defensive coach and that's your, and you said, what do I need? Give me somebody that can solve the offensive line I don't have to worry about. And give me a quarterback. I'm a pretty conservative guy who can do stuff off script. So Chicago's got some components here that really help a young defensive coach.

Magic off scripted quarterback. I think Ryan Poles, first year in I had real doubts. You've got to be fair with people. He's had a very good 18 months. He has really, really found some gems. I mean, even Gerald Everett at tight end. Nobody talks about that. Like, he was a fairly dependable guy for the Chargers.

He's very solid guy. He'll be a two tight end. He can be a one on five or six, seven, eight teams. Yeah. That Tennessee opener, that's got to make them. Oh, I'm not doing the first week, Blazing, Bob. I'll lay off. Management, though, I will say.

I saw management this morning in the break room. A lot of pressure. On week one, blazing five? I've already got four of my picks locked in week one. Well, all right, let's move on. Let's move on. Cowboys and CD Lamb are still working on that contract extension. The team reportedly submitted a new offer that is slightly under 33 million per year.

33 million per year. But Lamb is said to want more than that. Justin Jefferson set the market getting 35 million per year. 33 mil a year and he's not happy? That to me is almost a sign like, are we not going to see him? Week one, I don't know. I thought it was a lock, but... That is a lot of coin for a wide receiver. TD Lam's not better than Justin Jefferson. I'm sorry.

Now, what he means to the Cowboys is a lot, because as you've been harping on, they don't have any weapons. I know Clarence Hill sat here and was like, hey, Jake Ferguson's an elite tight end. It's like, let's slow down. They just don't have a lot outside of land. They're desperate. I don't know, Jerry. Once again, he screwed up a big, big money free agent situation. in Dallas. Final story, Colin, is, oh, yeah, here we go. Awful football.

Look at this. Mike Tyson and Jake Paul have relaunched their fight. Remember they were supposed to fight this summer? Well, Tyson had an issue. They have rescheduled it for November 15th. During a press conference this weekend. Paul was trying to get Tyson to engage in trash talk, but Tyson wasn't taking the bait.

However, when the two came face-to-face, things got physical, some punches were thrown, they had to be separated. Look at Tyson. and just laughing. And, you know, when Tyson's got that crazy man laugh, it's like, dude, you don't want to be able to know. I don't know. This felt really, listen, I'm Netflix. I do this too. I mean, it's worth the roll the dice if I'm Netflix. I'm not, I get them doing it. You're a streamer. You're making massive money. They're kind of getting into the sports business.

Like, I get Netflix doing this. The receiver series, the quarterback. Like, I get it. They're tiptoeing in. I watch this and I thought, oh, I don't know. It's a put on. Very state. Yeah. Yeah. But will the young audience who loves this Jake Paul guy, the YouTube audience, I've been supportive of Jake Paul. I think he's a, I think in this day and age, he's a big, strong kid, he's totally committed to it. I don't think he's an all-timer, obviously, but I don't know.

They're just part of me thinks if Mike can get to him in the first two rounds, that's it. Mike does not want this puppy to go six rounds. Like that's not old guys, get him early. Like if I'm Mike Tyson, first two rounds is the fight. Does this devalue boxing color? I'll just ask for it. I think, honestly, UFC's killed boxing. I mean, I watched the UFC card in Perth, Australia this weekend.

Had a blast. Had a blast. I love that great final fight, by the way. I'll take your word for it. Oh, it was great. Boxing's not on my radar. But this is Tyson versus Jake. Well, it's become almost boxing's like the only thing that gets me in is a carnival.

Yeah. It's like any time a sport is like gets real purists. You don't understand boxing. Congrats, champ. Knock yourself out. I watch UFC. What could I say? Yeah, Mayweather is basically done. Does he fight it anymore?

He's not good, but doesn't get me to a, he's not an exciting fighter. He's not a knockout guy. No. So, I mean, it's a side show. I mean, UFC fights, I'm at the edge of my seat. I'm sitting there for an hour. I can't take my eyes off the screen. Yeah.

And like Jake Paul yelling at the audience, you stupid liberals in New York. Like, what are we doing? Who cares about politics when you're... I thought it was like the beginning. I thought the beginning of that line was funny. He goes, New York, you're just like Tyson. You were great 20 years ago. That made me laugh.

He didn't have to go into the politics. Wait, why is New York? Well, New Yorker, I take umbrage to that. I think, you know, Jake Paul's a bit of a dope. But anyways, what was New York better? Why was it better 20 years ago? Well, I think it's had COVID, cannabis legalization, bad politics.

They've got problems, like a lot of big cities. I think New York's had better decades. Where's Jake Paul from, Mississippi? How does that state? Well, it's fine, beautiful. Oh, yeah, yeah. A little warm in the summer. 20 years ago, Mississippi, never been relevant.

He's from Ohio. He's from Ohio? I think so. It's a very bad. Ohio, you've ever been to Columbus? No. It's very nice. Are I missing out?

It's a very nice city. I've heard decent things about Ohio, but isn't that we're all like, I'm not going to get into meth and talking about hard drugs, but. Well, let's not get into that. I think I've been to Columbus four or five times. I'll take New York over Ohio every day of the week, okay? Well, I've probably, upstate New York. York is very nice.

Oh, stop. Buffalo? Okay. My wife used to work in HR. She claims Buffalo's got the nicest people in the country. Again, very nice summers and falls. You just don't want to live there. No, that's not right.

How do you know? I may retire by Niagara Falls, have a little cottage where I stare at the waterfalls in great serenity. You just, you have literally two places in America. You're willing to live. No, stop it. I'm out there. I'm one of the people.

I may just retire right next to Niagara Falls. Miami or Ohio. Miami would you rather live in Miami she thinks it's two nightclub she wouldn't live there I love wouldn't let us live there that's a city for me J Mac with the news well that's the news and thanks for stopping by the heard lie right Colin wrong at top of the hour by the way I told you I'm excited for Washington and I'm gonna tell you how Jaden Daniels has a chance to be the next Steph Curry I'm not joking I'm not joking on this

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I think they're going to make the playoffs. And every year, last year it was the Rams. I said they're better than people think the year before it was the Vikings. So I'm on a two-season heater. This is my third. I think Washington's going to be a pretty good team. Not a Super Bowl team, pretty good team right away. And it's because of Jaden Daniels.

But I just want to give you a comp here. People forget because from 1995 to about 2015, the Warriors were just invisible. Sacramento became a more notable NBA franchise. Bad ownership, bad draft picks. The culture was weird. And you forget what a great basketball city San Francisco was. I grew up in the Warriors had Rick Berry. They were great.

And the city loves basketball. But it's like, after a while, people, Chicago loves basketball too. After a while, people just give up. If you have the wrong owners, aging owners, or if you got the wrong, you know, coaches and players. And so, and then Steph Curry arrives. About the time, they get new ownership, 2009, 2010. He's a skinny kid, little small, little skinny, little thin, highly creative with a new owner. And all of a sudden, very quickly, because Steph was good in year one,

Oh, oh, this is San Francisco, Oakland's back. You forget what a great basketball city this is. And Jaden Daniels, similarly, new owner. You forget what a great football city Washington, D.C. was. They used to have a 25-year waiting list. When I was a kid growing up, the best fans in the sport were Washington. The stadium, RFK Stadium, rocked on television. 20-25-year waiting list.

The Packers, when I was a kid growing up, stunk in the 70s and 80s. Right? Like nobody talked about it. It was Washington. George Allen, Super Bowls, most loyal fans, and then you get a bad owner. And so it just reminds me, and don't forget, Steph Curry was not the first point guard taken in the draft. Jaden Daniels is not the first quarterback taken in the draft. Also remember, in Steph Curry's draft class, there was another player that guy.

much more publicity. He was bigger. He was considered more dynamic. Blake Griffin. In Jaden Daniels draft class, there is a player that's thicker, a more dynamic going to steal most of the thunder. Caleb Williams. New ownership. Small guy. A, A. Steph Curry averaged 28, 29 a game. But everybody said it's against the competition he played against. He put up huge college numbers. Jaden Daniels last year, 50 touchdowns, four picks. Well, a lot of those games against the weaker team. So the criticism for both isn't their lack of dynastic qualities or dynamic qualities? It is that, well, yeah, they got a lot of their numbers against weaker competition.

Steph Curry 18 a game is a rookie, new owner changed everything. You're like, man, I forgot. They love basketball in the bay. I think he's going to hit. I think he's going to hit fast. I think you're going to see Washington get really good, really fast. Now, it took a while for Steph. He had Don Nelson.

He had Mark Jackson. He had to get the right offensive coach to explode. And is Dan Quinn it? I don't know. But Dan's seeing what we're seeing. He's good right now. He had another really good outing, honestly. I don't know passing-wise what it was,

but the accuracy, the decision-making of where to go, he really is a unique competitor. But yes, he was definitely in trouble again with the head coach. You want your top going to Animal House? That's exactly right. So he does not have a 0.0. I would absolutely assure you of that. Okay, also, now, J-Mack is flopping around on his team that's going to shock the world.

Not this host. It's Washington and it's Denver. So I don't know if you've noticed this. Bonix is really good right now. I know it's preseason. I know it's just preseason. But I have, I said this Friday. Top three quarterbacks take and have defensive coaches.

He has Sean Payton. Defensive coach or next to Andy Reid, arguably the best offensive coach in football. Think it matters for a young quarterback? 61 college star. Are you watching this kid? He is tearing it up. And as Sean Payton was talking about Bo Nix on the Scoop City podcast with Diana Rossini, listen to this. When did you know it was the guy that you wanted no matter what?

The individual workout after the meeting, we went on to the field and about throw 16, I just said to George, this is a guy. I'd say the single most important trait besides his processing, which is always hard to really measure. I'd say is his ability to throw from a dirty pocket. You know, there's just a little bit of penetration, and he can kind of take that quick step and be right on point. I know what you're saying. Colin, you can't judge the preseason. Time out. Time out. You're going to tell me all you fanboys for Dak Prescott after one preseason game.

You were like, get Tony Romo out of here. Remember that game at the Coliseum in L.A.? You literally made a decision. Super Bowls to follow. I do think you can see overwhelmed very quickly. You can see bad mechanics, anxiety from a quarterback very quickly. You can see when somebody's got it. Bonix has it.

This is a fit. And again, I think J.J. McCarthy, with an offensive coach and good weapons, would have excelled. He's out for the year. But Pennix has a defensive coach, Caleb defensive coach, Drake May defensive coach, Jaden Daniels defensive coach. Bo Nix got arguably the second best offensive coach in this league with good weapons, and they brought Troy Franklin as best college receiver with him, and Mims and Cortland Sutton, and two, three backs who are capable.

O-line, not terrible, left tackle's good. I'm just telling you, I'm watching this, and I know it's preseason, but you can see lost very quickly. You know, I'm watching Justin Fields career. It didn't take long to go. Man, he didn't see. Zach Wilson's a great example. You could see very quickly he doesn't see the field.

There's open guys. Bonick sees it. And that arm strength is way better than he got credit for. Zipping that puppy in there. It's very exciting. I like to win bets before the season even starts. I have already purchased jet skis. Multiple jet skis.

Ryan, you want to go, Ryan, next summer jet skis on me. We'll go out to the lake. Old Bears making the playoff guy. Don't spend that money too quickly. Boy, a lot of trash talking here. Washington and Denver. I am seeing a lot of good things happening. I'm looking at Washington.

So this may not be a bad pick from you, right? It could happen. My only thing is, Colin, are you ready for this? They have 11 new starters when you combine offensive defense. Six on offense, five on defense. New. Rookie quarterback, new head coach, new offensive coordinator, new owner. If Washington pulls this off, it would have to.

to be some historic stuff. We don't see this much turnover and this much newness become a playoff team. We just have, we don't see that. Well, Houston outside of the ownership, was an outlier, yes. Was all new. And I don't love all new,

but I do love when old stunk and it's new. It'd be one thing if you're like, oh, we lost an elite defensive coordinator. Boy, I'll tell you that owner, we're going to miss him. That organization had a stink to it. You couldn't get out of the building fast enough.

Virtually per player, per coach, per owner, per GM, all upgrades. Upgrades across the board. I don't think all new. But, and again, I think it could be choppy in September. That's why they're playing Jaden Daniels. But I'm telling, they have upgraded

everywhere in this organization. Washington's favored in three games this season. That's it. Yeah. That's now. Well, if they shock Tampa in the opener, that's an interesting game. They're favored now in three games. they win the opener, they'll be favored in six. Well, they play the Giants week, too. That's a dub.

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