The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - The Warriors without Steph Curry

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

Colin highlights the importance of Steph Curry at age 37 as the Warriors continue to struggle in his absence due to injury He points out the lack of "Cinderella" teams in the NCAA tournament doesn't matter as the TV ratings for the first round are through the roofSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Major League Baseball, the team's operating going forward starting tomorrow and Rob Manfred stops by in Los Angeles. It is the herd. J. Mack, it was interesting. So, you know, you can add new members. One of my favorite bands of all time was the Eagles, right? Okay. And you can add people to the band, but, you know, Don Henley had the voice.

Like, in the end, you can add a lot of bad members, and the Warriors can add Jimmy Butler, and Jimmy Butler makes them better. But it is Steph's team, and last night was a great example, because Jimmy Butler returned to Miami to the heat where he got him to the final. and he has been great. He has been great when Butler and Steph play together. Warriors are 15 and 3. But last night's the difference between the two.

Steph didn't play. Jimmy did, and the offense dried up. The starters for the Warriors at half had 10 total points. And LeBron and Steph are transformational all-time players, top 10 players. Luca got traded for a reason. Remember, LeBron left Miami on his turn. terms. Jimmy was traded out of town. Right. So, Luca's a great score, but the team's not as good defensively because he doesn't share the ball as much. And in the NBA, if I don't touch it,

I'm not playing D on the other end. And Steph, between IQ, EQ, off ball, on ball, scoring, culture building leadership. I love Jimmy Butler, but he's combative. He's a Bounce around the league guy. He's a super grinder. He's a more offensively skilled Draymond Green. But Steph's the entire package. LeBron's the entire package. You can love Keith Richards.

It's Mick's band. You can love Butler. It's Steph's band. You can love Luca. It's LeBron's band. And you saw it last night. Is that without Steph, this looked like the team pre-Butler. Nobody could score.

The movement's not as good. They're not talking as much. And the heat and the Mavs, listen, both got to finals, right? The heat got to the finals. But when they did with Jimmy Butler, Jimmy was overwhelmed. And Luca got to a finals. But do you remember that finals? He was out of shape.

He was gassed. LeBron James with Matthew Delavadova can lose a finals. He's not out of shape. He's not gassed. He just doesn't have enough combatants on his side. So I can absolutely love Jimmy Butler. And you can add players to teams, even like B plus A minus guys. I've said this.

Everybody's got this. Hey, Luca guarantees this. Luca gets worked on the defensive end. We talked about this with Rick Buechre yesterday. When LeBron sat out and he didn't play with Luca, they didn't only lost. They were getting boat race by bad teams because Luca sort of reverts back to who Luca is. and why it wasn't always great chemistry with the Mavericks. Guys are sitting around watching.

They don't touch the ball. And this was Buker yesterday talking about the LeBron-Luca dynamic. When LeBron stepped out, it became the Luca show. And it looked like Dallas. And the reason that you had everybody defending as hard as they were because they were touching the ball. They knew that if they ran the floor, the ball is going to be passed ahead

and I might get a fast break leg. And that doesn't happen much when LeBron's out. So, it's interesting. I had said this. I gave baseball about 15 years off. I didn't talk much about it. The game got really slow.

There was no urgency. The emergence of the iPhone. People are distracted and the stars were not in the right places. Otani was down with the angels who feel invisible here in L.A. County, which neighbors Orange County. And then Bryce Harper goes to the Nats, and Aaron

Judge becomes a star, and Otani is now a Dodger, and all of a sudden you look up and baseball speeds the game up, the defensive shift is eliminated, the bases are bigger, there's more base runners, more stolen bases, and baseball the last two years, ratings up, attendance up. So Rob

Manfred, as a commissioner of baseball on in one hour, he's always got to battle the purists. Baseball is like half amusement park, half museum. And the museum crowd, the old school people, they're grumpy. The sky is falling with any change. So yesterday was a great example of that. So Jeff Passon was on, he's a very popular baseball writer for the other place. He was on a podcast and he said, you know, baseball is in an

incredible place right now. They cannot have a work stoppage. And all the seamheads come out of the woodwork. Nobody can compete. Oh, good Lord. The minute the Dodgers Yankees make a World Series, the sky is falling crowd, nobody can compete. We need a salary cap. Baseball's never going to have a salary cap. Union's too strong. And do you know nobody is repeated in baseball to win the World Series since 2000? That is the longest streak of any Pro League in America and the longest streak in baseball history.

In fact, last year, I looked up this morning. The Guardians, Orioles, Royals, Tigers, and Brewers all made the playoffs. In fact, Detroit won a playoff series. They're all in the bottom half of the league in payroll. The league's never had more parity. Never. But speed up the game of the pitch clock. The purists didn't like it.

The change in extra innings. The larger bases. Good God, they suggested the golden-knit bat used once a game where a star can bat out of order. People freaked out. Baseball's in an incredibly, incredibly. healthy place. But no sport has more ninnies and whiners than baseball. I looked it up this morning. So you had last year, you had six guys sign a hundred plus million dollar contract. Six guys. They must have been all Dodgers. Nope. One was a Yankee. One was a Dodger. One was a diamond

back. One was a Matt. One was a Red Sock. One was San Francisco. Six different places. They haven't had a repeat champ. But the minute the Dodgers and the Yankees get in, the sky is falling. The purists are outrage. You have parity all over the sport. Now, I will say, this Dodger team is insane, but we've all had somebody in our

social circle. Hopefully you've eliminated them, where you go up and say, man, what a beautiful day, and they say, well, it could rain tomorrow. That is baseball purist. The sports great. There's all sorts of bottom payroll team. I mean, in the NBA, you have

eight teams that feel like perpetually the Wizards, they're just not watchable. They had John Wall and they weren't watchable. They can't compete. They had Beel and Wall in their prime. They can't compete. In the East. So, I mean, yeah, the A's situation's ugly.

But the NFL several years ago had the Raiders change where they were playing. The Chargers moved up. They had three days. St. Louis moved out to L.A. There was a real bumpy two-year stretch in the NFL where, like, franchises were moving all over the country. Yes, the A's situation. a mess. But this idea, it is just, you know, look, I

gave baseball 15 years off. The first eight years here and the last eight at the other place. I just didn't talk it much. Last year and a half, baseball's been unbelievable. All the stars in the right place. The game is faster. More base runners. More stolen bases, more activity. In fact, one of my

questions now is, I think there's parity in baseball. The place where you lack parity is pitcher and hitter. Not enough teams can hit 265 to 2,7, is a team because the mound pitchers are bigger, stronger, faster, throwing 100 miles an hour, and batterers, even good ones can be overwhelmed in this sport. That's where you lack parity.

The pitchers against the hitters. The sport's fine. And as I've said, who pays 40% of baseball's bills, TV networks? They don't care about parity. They want six really good teams, preferably in New York, Atlanta, Chicago, L.A. and Philadelphia. And maybe Houston. That's where they want the good team. teams. And that's where they are right now. So, Jay Mack, we got a lot of stuff. You know, it's interesting. People are pins and needles on what Aaron Rogers is going to do. And I've said he's a slightly better version of Russell Wilson. So Russell Wilson signed with the Giants yesterday, and it landed with an absolute nothing burger.

I don't think that is a third to fourth place team, right? Well, certainly. But is it possible that the Giants got wind that, hey, Shador Sanders ain't going to be there at three? guys. He's not. He's going to be gone. You better grab a quarterback before you get nothing. What if Russell Wilson went to another team? Then they would have no quarterback at all. So I think some draft stuff leaked out.

And that's why the Patriots went and got digs. Is Travis Hunter going to be there at four, Colin? I don't know. Yeah. So the Patriots probably heard Travis Hunter has gone at four because the Giants are going to have to select him because the Browns are taking a quarterback. Shoulder, yeah. Yeah. So, you know,

nobody can keep a secret. I mean, let's be honest in the NFL. You get close to the draft. You've got scouts that have worked for multiple teams. You got people who have been fired, right? So you can't keep secrets anywhere. If you want to keep a secret, don't say anything to anybody. So I think what happened yesterday is a bit of a domino.

The Giants find out Cleveland's taking a quarterback. The Patriots find out, oh, we better than sign Stefan Diggs because we're not getting Travis Hunter. Right. That's probably what's happening. And Neighbors and Travis Hunter is kind of spicy on the outside for the New York Giants. They got a quarterback who just throws deep balls. That's all Russ does. He doesn't want to go over the middle.

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It's kind of a Donald Trump thing, flood the zone, see if anything sticks. My takeaway is what Jay Mack and I talked about earlier. It does appear Cleveland, and I think this is a good fit, is going to take Shudor Sanders. So Cam Ward's going to go number one. Shadur Sanders. Cleveland's going to go number two. The Giants got wind of it, and they signed Russell Wilson and James Winston, and they're probably in the Travis Hunter, who's the best peer athlete in the draft ballpark.

And I was thinking about this this morning. The Giants have really become the Cleveland Browns, where I'm dead serious, where I like the offensive head coach. Stefansky won 11 games, rotated four quarterbacks, and got to the playoffs. That's all I've ever needed to see. He's a good coach. Brian Daibol won a playoff game with Daniel Jones. That's all I need to know.

The rest of the organizations are trouble. I like the coach. They've got some good defensive players, and they are a side show at quarterback. The difference is this morning, Cleveland's going to get Shadur Sanders. The Giants are stuck with Russell Wilson and Javis Winston. So Cleveland is now a better version of the Giants. The last time Cleveland was legitimate and stable at quarterback was Bernie Kozar, mid-80s won five-street. We got five straight playoff appearances.

Total stability. Never been stable since. The last time the Giants were stable, Eli Manning wins two Super Bowls in a five-year period. It's been a mess. And if you look at Cleveland, it's been impulsive reactions from the owner. And if you look at the Giants, they've had patience. They're not Cleveland. They've had patience.

They've just made horrible decisions. Joe Judge, Dave Gettelman, Daniel Jones, then the extension, letting Sequin go. So there's a lot of different ways to get bad. Cleveland, it's mostly been an ownership thing. The Giants owner has not helped. It's been a bad GM thing. Joe Shane, Dave Gettelman, just to me are, They're not elite guys.

But the difference is this morning is Cleveland's going to get a quarterback who's a pocket guy, Shadur Sanders, who I like more than the critics. Remember about a month ago when some of these mock draft guys were saying, hey, Shadur may fall to the second round. J-Mack first, me following up, said, you're out of your mind. These guys are nice quarterback prospects. Far less talented quarterbacks have gone in the top five than Shadur Sanders and Cam Ward. Cam Ward's going one. What this says today, signing Russell. Wilson is the Browns are taking

Shadour Sanders and Stefansky's a very good pocket quarterback. Very good with Flacco, very good with Baker. That's what he does. Guys that sit in the pocket and throw. That's why Deshawn Watson's been iffy. Deshawn doesn't throw great from the pocket. He moves a lot and he's not the athlete he once was. So

you think I'm, you know, listen, the Giants have the worst record in the league since 2017. So when I say they're the Cleveland Browns, they're worse. And they have the fewest touchdown passes in the NFL since Eli Manning retired. But the difference is the Browns this morning are going to get their future quarterback, and the Giants are stuck with two guys past their prime. And by the way, you couldn't get two more unique guys.

I mean, here is goofy, weird, funny, authentic James Winston, and then sort of stoic corporate. Some would say inauthentic Russell Wilson, it's a weird combination. But this morning, when I say the Giants of the Cleveland Browns, you snicker, the Browns are actually in the next month in better shape. they've got the best total player miles garrett they may have a better coach kevin stefansky and they've got their future quarterback which they don't have to pay a fortune for for the next four years j mac with the news no no no no turn on the news this is the herd line news all right con let's start with some crummy news in the NBA bucks guard damia lillard has been

diagnosed with a blood clot that's going to keep him out of the lineup indefinitely this This is terrible news for the Bucks, for Dame Lillard, for NBA fans everywhere. We know the blood clot that sideline Wemby put him out for the year. I don't know how Dame is able to play in the playoffs, which would be really crippling. But this is just really bad. Just for everyone. There's no winners here. I don't know, Colin.

My instant take is, forget about the Bucks this year, right? Yeah. Stinks for Dave. Yeah. What about the superstar in Milwaukee? he look around and say, Oh, yeah, it's been... This isn't working, and this is just somewhere he asks out?

Again, when you're Milwaukee and you can win a title, they did it in 71, they did it a few years ago. That feels like enough. Like, you love, like the Denver Nuggets win a title with Yokic. You'd like to get one more. If you were in L.A. or Boston, and you win a title early with a superstar, you think you've got four coming, maybe five. And so I think Milwaukee's settled the last several years for a team that's not a, it's not capable of winning. and the media is more friendly it's a smaller market

the reality is this team's needed reworking they took a huge swing on dame because yonis had basically threatened the franchise you got to make a move but in the process of letting drew holiday go they're not nearly as good defensively in the back court so i i just feel like

we just Milwaukee fans wonder why everybody always says it's time to break up the band and the reason is it's time to break up the band like you're done making hits yeah you got no number one albums coming so like it should have happened three years ago and also what's worrisome is that yonis isn't aging particularly well because he has no mid-range game and so you can get the points but literally he's much easier to defend than yokitch draymond green can shut him down graham on will acknowledge he can't stop yokitch

he can't stop wemby there's nothing he can do he can stop yonis and he did last week so i think the organization needs to take a big like a big market swing okay Well, you know, this is what we do. We do it here on the hot take happy hour, right? We started out. Everybody's going to say New York Knicks, right? Janus, go to the Knicks. Okay, that's obvious.

Let's not go there. The Clippers, we know, have a lot of money. Colin, I have just listening to you just now this crystallized. I have not run it by anybody on staff. Okay? I'm going to float this. So the Boston Celtics have a lot of guys they got to pay. We know they don't want to go into the luxury tax.

They've got two guys who are similar in Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. We just saw Dallas say, Give us Anthony Davis. It'll give us a chance. We get a star, we lose one. We don't want like six first-round picks. What if the Boston Celtics said, we'll give you Jalen Brown and Derek White, Holiday, and a pick,

give us Janus. And then the Celtics going forward would have a Janus Jason Tatum nucleus. No, first of all, I think that's great. Because Porzingis is now, which was his brand is not available a lot. Drew Holliday, again, passed his prime, and you're not going to get much better on the market than Jalen Brown and Derek White and draft picks. So that to me is a great move.

And I would do it if I was Boston and Brad Stevens, again, if you win it this year, okay, don't pigs get fed, hogs get slugged. Don't get greedy on this lineup. Like you got Drew's past his prime. He's still really, really good. Porzingis physically past his prime. Derek White, this is as good as it gets.

So I would do that in a second if I was Brad Steed. We didn't talk about last week, but the Celtics are going to be under new ownership. They were sold for, what, $6 billion? Does the new ownership group say, hey, you guys did great. We're going to break this up and prolong the Jason Tatum era. Well, Tatum's also having his best season. So he does look more like a clear one this year than any year in his previous. And you're not giving up everything.

You still got Peyton Pritchard, who's one of the best six men in the league. And you have Jason Tatum. You have Tatum, and I don't think you give up white and holiday. You give up one of the other and Jalen Brown. And all of a sudden, Boston's got this runway where, I don't know, you talk three Pete? Yonis and Tatum together? Colin, there might be something there. I would absolutely pull the trigger on.

Okay. Next story, let's go to baseball. And the Dodgers won the World Series last year. Yay, that was fun. But my Yankees also blew it. Well, L.A. pitcher Joe Kelly said it was, quote, a mismatch from the get-go. If we had a playoff re-ranking, they would have been eighth or the ninth best playoff team. And outfielder Chris Taylor said, quote, they kind of bleep down their leg.

A lot of trash talk last year from the Dodgers. Well, New York manager Aaron Boone was on breakfast ball, and here's what we said about the trash talk. The day, if we wanted, I think it's annoying. I'll say that. I think it annoyed some guys. But at the end of the day, if we want to not hear it, we got to play better. got to be the team standard. So I don't know about motivation.

You know, if you need that to motivate you going into 162 game season, you know, I don't really think that's what should be motivating us. It should be to be the best we can possibly be. And that's what you go to spring training to start that. And hopefully we can get back there and punch through this time. And hopefully have some more respectful comments when we do it. I mean, the Yankees' biggest issue is no Garrett Cole this year, because the two games in the World Series, where it looked like they were the Dodgers equal, he started.

And when he didn't, they were not the equal. And that's what I'll say. They did look like about the fourth best team in baseball, because they weren't as athletic as the Dodgers. They weren't as deep. Their staff wasn't as deep. And the Dodgers just ran better, fielded better. And, of course, there was that disastrous fifth inning with the Aaron drop, which we're showing.

But it did, I don't think that the Yankees are, I mean, they're probably a playoff team. Stop it. But I. Probably? Well, Garrett Cole's the game changer. You're not winning big playoff series without it. Well, that's a different thing than being a playoff team. They're going to the postseason, that's for sure.

I will just say, this budding rivalry of trash talk, Boone's saying this, Yankees Dodgers, Colin, that's really good for the sport as you head into the season. Two bohemists on each coast that's been a lot of money are now. lobbing some barbs back and forth. I like that. So do you. Good for the sport. All right, final story, Colin, is Adam Schifter reported yesterday.

The Titans were going to have another private workout with Cam Ward, but he also reported, this is interesting, it would take a substantial package for another team to trade up to one to grab Cam Ward. Now, just a few moments ago, news broke that the Browns have a private workout with Cam Ward, and present will be owner Jimmy Haslam, GM Andrew Berry, and head coach Kevin Stombe. Fansky. So the Browns all of a sudden want to look see at Cam Ward. What's your read on this? Is this that, hey, we've got Chador in the bag if we want him. Let's just take one more look at Cam Ward to see if we want to bump up and maybe we part with a...

I don't think these quarterbacks are transformational, so I'm not giving up multiple picks to get them. If they fall to me, I'll take them. But I wouldn't give up multiple first picks for either one of them. I 100% agree. Yeah, they're good players, good prospects. I think both can succeed. Listen, last year, the top quarterbacks mostly went to defensive coaches. Penix to Rahim Morris, Caleb to Iberfluse, Jaden to Dan Quinn. Okay, what was the one that surprised us? Bo Nix was Sean Peyton. So this year, you know, your number one pick the Titans, that's an offensive coach, number two pick, offensive coach, number three pick, offensive coach. So I do think these

quarterbacks are less talented than last year, but they're going to go to offensive coaches. That is a huge. I mean Bo Nix, a lot of people in the media, not us, a lot of people are like, Bo Nix is a second round quarterback.

He made the playoffs with an average roster. That's the power of an offensive coach, a good one in Sean Payton. Colin, it's interesting. Listen, we like Bryce Young as a person, we know, but that deal is going to look historically bad giving up DJ more and whatever else to move up. I'm going to go ahead on record and say, I don't see teams trading up for a quarterback unless it's like a guaranteed lock that the guy's

going to be a superstar like a Caleb Williams. I think that Bryce Young really reset the market. I don't think anybody's trading up for Shador. We like them, but I'm not mortgaging. No, I don't think there's a player. I'm dead serious. I don't think there's a player in this draft in the first round worth trading up for. I'll say one player I like that fits the tight end from Penn State. If you were like, let's say, if you were the Jets and you're like, we're not great at quarterback,

we could really use, because the Jets are like, we've got our running back, we've got our receiver of the future, and our left tackle. You could have your four cornerstones, back receiver left tackle, For the quarterback that comes in, eventually, to take over the franchise, the great quarterback. I could see the Jets moving up for a team that wants to get their cornerstone of skill people and left tackle for next year's draft. Yeah.

And listen, this is a longer discussion, but next year's draft, this whole Arch Manning stuff, some fans are going to be like, let's keep our powder dry for next year. We've got to go get Arch. Colleen, can we just go on record and say, we don't know if Arch Manning is going to be a very good quarter? He hasn't started at all. He's got the last name. He's got, you know, he's played for Texas. He moves pretty well. He moves pretty well.

We just haven't seen enough, right? Like, I don't want to pump the brakes too much on Arch Manning. But nobody knows if he's even a first round quarterback at this point. Do we think that? God, how many games has he started in Texas? Well, next year, the quarterback class, I think, is better at the top. It may not be as deep, but there's four or five guys that look like they'll be first rounders. Arch is one of them, but it's, next year's class is not the one that had like Tua, Herbert,

Burrell, it's not that. It's not that class. Remember last year we were talking, whoa, hey, Carson Beck, he's going to be picked it. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, guys. Slow down. Carson Beck had another year. We've got another year of tape. It's like, no, he's still in college, yeah.

Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The third line news. You know, I don't mean to be a wet blanket, but it was funny. I was reading some politics yesterday. There wasn't outside of the Miami Heat Warrior game. There wasn't a lot of games I wanted to watch.

So I watched a live, listen to three or four podcasts. I listened to an L.A. Times Patty Hearst podcast. I was listening to a podcast all day yesterday and watching shows. And I was sitting there thinking, you know, there used to be a term that was used a lot. It's not used much anymore in sports, hot take. Politics, the hot takes are insane. There's 40 a day. I mean, everybody exaggerates everything.

It's like, folks, go look up the Patty Hurst story, the Pentagon paper. You have no idea what was happening in this country in the 60s and the 70s and the radicals. Like take a deep breath. And so like today's show, and maybe that got me in the mood watching all the hot takes in politics. But when I saw people attacking Jeff Passon for saying baseball is in a great space, just Google who made the playoffs last year. It was like a bunch of low payroll teams. You haven't had a World Series repeat champs.

It's like 22,000 or 2020 or whenever it was. It's like forever longer than any other sport. The Patriots and Chiefs have overwhelmingly dominated the last 25 years in the NFL. Nobody in baseball has. Nobody. And so the other thing I've been pushing back on is this hot take that I saw this headline yesterday. The NIL and the transfer portal are sucking the madness out of March. Again, TV ratings illustrate that we're not watching for me.

madness. We're watching for Duke. We're watching for favorites. Memories, we know this, that lawyers can poke holes in eyewitness testimony, because memories fade and change over time. It's called partial recall. You remember something 20 years ago, but your brain fills in the rest. And that's why good attorneys will poke hole in eyewitnesses, and you start talking yourself into circles and misremembering stuff. And, you know, you talk about all this madness. Madness. and all these upsets. I'll give an example. The three biggest memories for most people watching college basketball, number one is the Christian Leitner shot.

He played for Duke. They beat Kentucky. No Cinderella in that moment. Two massive brands. That's the most memorable shot, in my opinion, in the history of the tournament. Second, you could argue, second is young Michael Jordan hitting the basketball. against Georgetown. UNC against the Hoyas. No Cinderella.

John Thompson and Dean Smith. Two huge brands. Now, we can go back to the Volvano play, but I would say Chris Jenkins of Villanova, a number two or three seed, beating North Carolina, a number one seed. Those are three semi-recent memories

of college basketball. You name me, remember a couple years ago, My point is there's so much mythology about Cinderella. Never forget Cinderella. That was a moment, but she was a house cleaner for the other 360 days a year. Okay? Right.

You've made Cinderella into, oh, my God. That was a night. That was a ball. That's it. Right? That wasn't the profession. And my takeaway is it's all mythology. Is that remember a few years ago there was an upset.

What was the upset we had? Oh, yeah. UMBC, the number is. 16 seed, beat number one Virginia. Do you remember the next game for UMBC? Oh, you don't either. Because that was the greatest Cinderella. And you forgot what they did in the next game.

So this whole March madness has done. We don't watch for the madness. We watch for big brands. That's why this weekend's going to be great. Because one of your upsets was John Caller. Calipari beating Rick Matino. And that's about the best upset you could have, Calipari winning as a polarizing head coach.

This is just more mythology. And that's like people, a lot of people say they're going to work out, they're going to go on a diet, and instead, they go on Ozempic. They don't go to the gym, and they don't eat right. They don't eat at all. They use Ozempic. And you're not watching for these small brands. You can't name two players on VCU with Shaka Smart.

or George Mason, unless you're a college basketball coach. You don't remember it. So the NIL helps college basketball. It keeps stars in for another year. Some guys will say, you know, a lot of these college basketball programs can pay a million dollars for a great player. They step up at, or I can make $300,000 in the G League. I'd rather play in the Big Ten and rather play at Duke, Carolina, Michigan, State, Michigan.

I'd rather play there. So that's where it helps. And it also cherry picks mid-major guys. which nobody watches anyway. So, again, take a deep breath. We're watching, we're watching for March and Brands, not the madness.

And if you want to talk madness, it's late in or hitting the shot over Kentucky. That was nuts. I watched that live. That was crazy. Duke against Kentucky. I'm sure you saw the ratings, Colin, or 30-plus year high.

So they had to go back to 1993 when the ratings were this high for the first two rounds. Do you want to guess who was playing in 1993? The Fab Five. Okay, there you go. When they went up against UNC. Historically great team, hugely popular, culturally relevant, that's when the ratings were massive. Okay, I mean, in my life, the most popular college basketball teams have been the Leitner Duke

team, the Patrick Ewing Georgetown team, the Jordan Worthy Carolina teams. UNLV. UNLV with Tark, which I Larry Johnson's day, and that was, by the way, it may have been a, Vegas was an emerging city, but that was a big brand. Those are the most popular. Fab 5 have to be close to me.

And I'll argue this forever. There is this total false narrative that Villanova beating Georgetown when they were both in the Big East was shocking. I did the Roli Mass Amino show years later. He said, we matched up great with Georgetown.

we got annihilated twice against Chris Mullen, Mark Jackson, and St. Johns. Our staff was like, we were hoping. We had Ed Pinckney. They had Ewing. Pinkney could defend. He goes, we loved our chances against Georgetown. We could play him anywhere. We matched up.

So that was seen as a massive upset. If you remember back then, you could slow the game down. Yeah. Didn't have to shoot. And so, but it's like baseball's got parity. Take a deep breath. It's fine. And March Madness, the ratings are telling you.

Telling you, people are into it. Everywhere I went this past weekend. I was in Chicago this past. Everywhere you went, the games were on. Everywhere. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's Steve Kavino. And I'm Rich Davis.

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outside of Tom Cruise, it's directors. I'll go to watch at Christopher Nolan, Steven Soderberg, Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorsese, those four will get me to a theater, and Tom Cruise. That's it. So it's official.

You're not only an airport snob, but you are a movie snob now, too. Well, I'm not a movie. To get me to a theater, and I have one walking distance from where I live, to get me to a theater, it's based on Tom Cruise or the director. But don't you love the theater?

Not on your phone. Nobody's bothering you. No, no, no. No asks. I'm not. And you're just chilling watching a movie. The one by my house is amazing. Yeah.

They got a bar. They got food. It's fantastic. But I would say that's what now gets me in. The writers and the directors. I don't know a lot of these movie stars. They're political. They're weird.

They're precious. They're off-putting. It's like, I'm not interested. Give me old school crews. I know I sound like an old guy, but there's just, you saw what happened to Snow White. You get political. Like, America's like, not interested.

Wait, did you see Snow White? I haven't seen. Have you seen the numbers? No, I don't know. I know nothing about it. All time, $400 million lost disaster. Well, who was the actresses, no way? So that matters.

If it was Sidney, I'm in the theater opening night. You know, I'm not going to lie. But I don't know who the actress was, so I didn't check it out. Cindy, Sidney, sweetie would be Snow Wright. Oh, yeah. There we go. Okay. So here's a move I didn't like.

Stefan Diggs, three-year deal, $70 million with the Patriots. What is that about? Coming off an ACL, wrong side of 30, getting, he has my worst quality as any, the worst quality a man can have is needy, and he's getting needier and crankier. And I'm not anti-Sefon Biggs, but we're talking about now a second major injury. I would not saddle Drake May with that. I just wouldn't do it. And best available option doesn't mean it's a good fit. And, you know, I think happened is what Jay Mack and I have talked.

about this morning what you are basically seeing the russell wilson move is a domino move by the giants getting russell that is telling you cleveland is taking schedure sanders that is telling you the giants are taking travis hunter and the patriots at four are trapped and mike frabble why did he get fired in tennessee he lost a j brown they couldn't score and he kind of felt like an outdated guy in tennessee they got rid of him so his take is, I'm not doing that again. I've got to have some receivers because when he inherited this team, Vrable's going to figure out the toughness and the physicality and the run game. That's what Vrable does. But there's only so much Vrable can do to the perimeter.

And they don't have any weapons. And so my take on Stefan Digg says, they don't love this move. They don't want to pay him half this. But now they think the Giants are going for Travis Hunter. Because the Browns are getting Shiro Sanders and the Titans are taking Cam Ward. So you're seeing the Domino's play at that. Russell will say, move is not really about the Giants, it's about Shadur Sanders. And I think they're kind of trapped, and their take is okay, all right. I mean, the

Patriots are desperate at riot receiver. The last receiver they had that had 10 plus touchdowns is Rannie Moss. And so I can see a lot of downside with this. I don't see a lot of upside, and it's super expensive, so I don't get it. Here's another NFL move, and I saw this.

Some Steeler fans think that Aaron Rogers was won't fit in Pittsburgh. Okay. Aaron Rogers doesn't fit into any football culture. Okay, he's a really talented guy who is unapologetically independent. And it's very clear since about 2020, Aaron is, here's his brand.

I'm going to say what I want, when I want, I'm going to do podcasts, I'm going to talk politics, I'm going to talk government, I am what I am, and you can shape around me. And by the way, if you get me, I want you to bring in some of my buddies. So that's what he is. That's not a football culture. That's an Aaron culture. And that's fine. He is unapologetically independent and aloof,

and it's his nature to go against the grain. I don't have a problem with it, but that's why the market's so small for him. But it's not about fitting Pittsburgh's culture. He doesn't really fit. I mean, Tom Brady, the ultimate team quarterback, he had issues. He talked about those yesterday.

He and Belichick had so much tension because, like, he didn't think he kept taking pay cuts, and Tom's like, I'm taking pay cuts. Yet I don't have any wide receivers. So you're not using the money to get me guys that can play. And so at the end, Tom didn't feel Belichick was holding up his end of the bargain, and Tom Brady was right. So football, when you lose collaboration, even Belichick and Brady don't work, and they dominated the sport. So, by the way, Patrick Mahomes is probably saying to his front office, get me a left tackle.

It's not a receiver. I can win without great. Get me a left tackle. Because that's why I said, Joe Tuny leaving the Chiefs is problematic. Best offensive linemen. Mahomes has been humiliated twice in Super Bowls. Why? O'Line failed. Left tackle failed. So that's what could disrupt a dynasty in Kansas City if they can't protect them.

The guys get guys, I mean, that's what Brady and Belichick had broke it up. It was no longer collaborative. Tom felt like I'm taking pay cuts. You can't get me any skill players. Once Edelman got to the, end of his career and left. So, you know, I mean, Aaron's not going to Pittsburgh, and he and mean Joe Green aren't showing up at a bowling alley in a car wash. He's not going to be a appearance guy. He doesn't fit in Pittsburgh. He's not a culture guy at this point. There are

stories out there. You know, back in 2019, Tyler Dunn wrote an article and had a source inside the Packer building, and the source told Tyler Dunn that the Packers told Aaron in 2019, don't be the problem. Well, since that time, Aaron's now seeking his third team. So he has, you know, the Packers viewed it as, dude, all this independent sort of passive-aggressive stuff, it's a problem. It's not really the way our league works. You can do it in the NBA. That sport is about the player.

I mean, it's all you have to do, Pittsburgh. I don't know if Pittsburgh gets Netflix. Do they get it there? Look at Netflix. Aaron Rogers, Doc, Iow Waska, Darkness Retreats. He's not a pitch. Pittsburgh guy. But it's okay. He wasn't really a New York guy. That's Aaron Glenn, and I have this source, Aaron Glenn basically said to either Aaron or his agent, it's not just the quarterback. It's the guy we don't want it. So, you know, and my thing is at this point, you know, it's like companies. If you're going to hire somebody, do your homework and vet them. If you bring in somebody that has an established brand and then you push back on it, that's the company's fault. Like, it's Pittsburgh's fault at this point.

Aaron's not subtle or nuanced or hiding who he is. He's, hey, I'm going to Egypt. I'm not, I'm off-season. You get some of me, you don't get all of me. And Aaron's telling you up front who he is. He's not lying. And he's not like, hey, I'm totally committed. It's not.

He's going to do music festivals, Egypt, podcast. He's going to do all of it. He's very up front with it. He's unapologetically independent and aloof at times. It's your issue if you bring him in and expect him to fit into your culture. It's not what he is anymore. He's not a fit into your culture guy. Rob Manfred, next.

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