The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - UConn did it the right way

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

Colin credits UConn for building their program the right way after becoming the first team in 17 years to win back-to-back National Championships He believes Purdue big man Zach Edey proved himself to be a worthy NBA player after another dominant season Thoughts on John Calipari leaving Kentucky for ArkansasSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This time in men's, often in men's and women's, it's the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. Nick Wright one hour from now. Jamak, having lived around the program for years, and for a decade, all my friends in that area being diehard Yukon fans, you have that proximity to a program, just like living in L.A., and we know a lot of people that work for, you know, the Lakers or the Rams or the Chargers. I've got to be honest, we're not supposed to root in this business, but I like watching Yukon crush. I like watching Yukon basketball.

My wife asked me, she said, was the game any good last night? They said it was fantastic. Yeah. Made money on Yukon. Easy winner. Yeah. So let's talk about that. Nothing against Purdue, but they didn't stand a chance.

Nobody the last two years seemingly does in the American basketball culture, which is absolutely, unequivocally, in arguably fallen behind Europe's, which often in America celebrates the wrong thing that coddles more than develops, it's very, very difficult to stay focused and fight through that American basketball culture. And Yukon does better than everybody. They keep basketball the main thing. They grind their players, hold them accountable,

yet the players love it. The players lean into it, because great players in great programs want to be coached hard. UConn stands alone at the top of college basketball's mountain six titles 25 years. Everything in their program is done right. They use the NIL and the transfer portal, but they don't rely on it. Their coaching's probably the best in the country.

They play tough physical basketball, old biggie style. They can have old school centers and new school guards and wings. Everything they do is the way college. basketball and I think America really likes it. Some old school and some three-pointers. It is a complete relentless program.

And Dan Hurley, the coach, is the perfect guy. Authentic, just snarky, east coast enough, fits the program and the culture, absolutely committed in a world of TikTok, in a world of a lot of sizzle over substance,

in a world of headlines over actually reading the article, Yukon is the movie Oppenheimer. A historic three-hour movie about the atom bomb, and it swept through the awards. Barbie was cute. Fun! People dressed up. Silly.

No big splashy adventure movie. No big movie star. Former wrestler. Nothing against rock. But the reality is UConn basketball is a serious program that attracts serious people to its program. And Dan Hurley's perfect for that.

He's not worried about how he looks, got his hoodie in his office. The first big shot of the second half. Yukon never loses when they lead at half, ever. They were 47 and O going in the last night's game. When they led 3630 at half, Newton comes down, hits a three, And I'm thinking 3930, it's over. We're just playing out the string here. It's over.

The game's officially over. And that's the way it is against Yukon most of the last two years. Maybe this program, it just maybe it wouldn't work out west. We have our good weather and options. Maybe it wouldn't work in the south of the Midwest. But it works in the east. It works in Connecticut. It works in stores.

I mean, outside of Zach Edie, no other player. they had, you know, five points. It was your next big score for Purdue, I believe. And I don't blame them. Zach Edie's great. He's fantastic. I'll get to him in a second. But what you're watching is a combination of old school basketball,

old school coaching, but new school smart, using the portal, using NIL. A lot of transfers here, but not depending on it. I think it's a joy to watch. maybe it's because I lived there for 10 years,

but I know how much it means to the area, and it's just a relentless program that squeezes every ounce of talent out of every coach, out of every player, out of every transfer, serious people like serious companies and programs. And that's what Yukon's all about, and Dan Hurley's saying, we are different after. I just think it's the,

best two-year run, I think, in a very, very long time just because of everything we lost from last year's team. To lose that much and again, to do what we did again, you know, it's got to be as impressive a two-year run as a program's had since prior to whoever did it before Duke. To me, it is more impressive than what Florida and Duke did because they brought back their entire teams. Now to Zach Eadie, Purdue's dominant 7-4 center who had another dominating night. And I was thinking about what Dan Hurley said on our show about a week ago. If Zach Eadie doesn't work in the NBA, maybe that's why the NBA has lost half its audience since Michael Jordan retired.

Every team in the NBA uses the same analytics, the same data, they play the exact same way. aesthetically, kind of boring, dunks and threes, that's it. The American audience told you, men's and women's college basketball, we like some old school stuff. Caitlin Clark, does she feel like Hoosiers, the underdog? Zach Eady feels like, you know, old school centers. Everybody in the NBA plays the same way. And then Minnesota, the Timberwolves said, no, we're not going to do that. We're going to get two seven-footers.

And the T-wolves are the number one seed in the West. They broke through. By the way, Spurs did this once, David Robinson, Tim Duncan. Houston did this, Akeem and Ralph Sampson. Minnesota said, no, we're not just going to do the small ball thing. We're going to go the opposite. We're going to get Rudy Gobert and Carl Anthony Towns. I mean, let me ask you this.

Zach Eadie got two Yukon Biggs in foul trouble all night, scored 37 points against the guy that's going to go in the NBA draft. Is every big in the NBA scoring 37 last night? Zubots, who averages 12 a game for the Clippers old school center. You think he's scoring 37 last night and getting both a Yukon bigs in foul trouble? I mean, I don't know. I watched that game. Nobody's blocking that shot.

7 foot 4, 300 pounds, and the dude is ripped. He played more minutes than anybody in the tournament. That's not, there are abs. He's a 7 foot 4 guy 300 pounds with abs. he is ripped. He's not going anywhere. Well, he can't defend the wing. Is Anthony Davis a great wing defender?

Are all these bigs in the NBA outside of Wemby great wing defenders? I don't know. But in the NBA, and I've heard people in the league complain about this, every team uses the same data and the same analytics. And it's like Denver's better than everybody. And before that, Golden State was better than everybody. Minnesota said we're going to try something new. We're going to go with bigs.

One guy didn't even score much. Rudy Gobert. The other guy's a little flaky. Carl Anthony Towns. They're the number one seat in the West, and that's what Carl Anthony Towns hurt, hopefully coming back. So I don't know. I look at Zach Edy, driven, tough, smart,

finishes, block shots. I mean, it's like Caitlin Clark. Don't judge Caitlin Clark and Zach Eadie on the final college basketball game. They play and they lost. They're just different. They look different. And again, Zach Eadie last year, I remember when Tim Tebow was in college.

And I watched them as an underclassman, and then I watched him as final year. And it was the same guy. It was the same game. Slow delivery. Didn't have a great arm. Raw, raw optimism. It was the same guy. Zach Edie's not the same player he was a year ago.

He's not. He's a better finisher. He's in better shape. He's more relentless. I mean, how many players have won multiple naysmiths? Bill Walton, Ralph Samson, Zach Edie. It says something, doesn't it? Here he was after the loss.

You can say whatever you want about me. You can say however I play. You can say whatever. But you can never say that I didn't give it my 100% every single time I stepped on the floor. Every single time I went in practice. And that's what I always hang my hat on. I came in that I never didn't give it 100%. Dan Hurley's game plan was, yeah, we're not going to be able to stop him.

And they've got an NBA center. Mark Few came on this show and said, I've been doing this 25 years. I've never faced anybody like that. We can't stop him. Really? I mean, when Dan Hurley acknowledges, stop the other guys. We've got an NBA center. Just stop the other guys.

He's going to get his 40. I don't know. Hurley said it a week ago. If he doesn't make the NBA, this is supposed to be the weakest draft ever. Like the Anthony Bennett draft, and you're telling me he can't be a top 15 pick. I don't get it.

Like if the audience is telling you, we like basketball, we just don't want everything to be a three or a dunk. Michael Jordan was a mid-range player. Magic Johnson wasn't a great shooter. LeBron's hot and cold. Yes, Steph Curry is. But I don't know. When I watch Zach Eadie at 7-4 against NBA guys getting them all in foul trouble and dropping 37, and Mark Fuse like, yeah, there's just already no way to defend him.

I can't believe there's not a spot in pro basketball for him. Somewhere. There are old school centers playing right now in the NBA, averaging double figures. He can't be one of them. J. Mack, you're rolling your eyes at Zach Edy, the optimism. Cower. Oh, Mike. This might be a top five hottest take since I joined the show like two years ago or whatever it is.

You don't think he's a top 15 pick. Okay, hold. Ronnie James. We need an hour on this. Ronnie James averages for a game. He's going to get drafted. This guy drops 35 against NBA Biggs, and he's not draftable. Brody's going in the second round, though.

We determine that, right? But, I mean, this is the weakest draft, they're saying. There's not an American player in the top four. He can't go 15? I don't think he's going to go 15. He's very good college player. Do you have many assists he had last night? Zero, none.

I don't rely on my center to get all my assistance. But that's why Yokic is so special. Yeah, but Yokic is the world's best player. I'm not asking Zach Edy to be the world's best player. I'm saying in the weakest draft, maybe ever, and that's what people are saying. This rivals the Anthony Bennett draft where the best player was Yonison. He went like 15. That's fair.

Okay. Rudy Gobert was the second best player in that draft. He went at the end of the first, I believe. This is a terrible draft. That got the most dominant. Tim Tebow went in the first round and went a playoff game. It's not even close to this dominant. I just, I looked at all those buckets he had last night.

A lot of two-pointers did really, really well. And they still got smoked because three is more than two. And that's why the NBA- Well, they got smoked because Yukon is easily. Yukon's smoking everybody. Also true. I mean, they're blowing, their average win over the last two years is what, 21? Two?

They're dominant. But, I mean, three being more than two, like what E. E.D. did last night was great. But I wonder if that's a blueprint, Colin, for the Lakers when they play Yokic. Hey, Yokic, you can have 50 points. I'm not saying, I'm not giving anything to money. I'm not saying build my entire franchise around Zach Edy. I'm saying when I face Yokic and I'm the Warriors and just don't match up,

I'd like a 7'4-big who can at least defend when I face Gobert and Towns or Davis, and I'm the Warriors and I don't match up with Denver, Minnesota, or the Lakers at all. I contend if the Lakers played Golden State, it's a nightmare matchup. The T-Wolves will privately tell you they do not want to face the Lakers. No. So the Warriors don't match up with the Celtics. They don't match up with the Lakers, Denver, Minnesota. You don't think a 7-4 guy who can give you 12 to 13 a game and block shots has value?

I would take an upside guy in the top 15. And I would take E.D., yeah, early second round. I think he's got great value like Zubots, who you referenced. Zubots went 30-second overall. First two years, he was like in the G-League. and then all of a sudden he starts to grow and develop and pop, and now he says, sir, Mike R. Yolk it's in the playoffs. But that's in like year six, seven.

You can't draft Eadie top 15, Colin. I like, I like him a lot. Now, Klingon's interesting. I thought he defended Eid pre well. You mean the guy that was in foul trouble the entire night that couldn't really score? So you liked the guy that couldn't score from Bristol, Connecticut, that was in foul trouble over the guy that dominated the tournament. I bet the, I bet the Klingin under 13 and a half points that easily cashed.

Yeah, so did I. And I knew he was going to get shut down. You don't like Klingin that much? I think he's fine. I don't think he's historically great. I would take Zach Eady in the NBA over Klingin. Over Klingin, huh? Yeah.

He was clinging to Zach Eadie's shoulder as he fouled him time and time again. That's what he was clinging to. I don't know. Like sometimes my eyes don't lie. I see, you remember Clint Capella, rim running, dunking machine, rockets, hawks? Like, clinging is him on steroids. Like, Klingin is 7-2 super active. I like Klingin.

Nice player. I like Yukon, period. I'm not saying that. But I'm watching Zach Eady today, and I watched him last year. And new information, new opinion. Last year, I did not think he looked like this. I thought he was good. He was a good player.

He looked stronger. He's more forceful. He's more intimidating. Didn't you think this was like a half-court game last night? NBA is longer. 48 minutes versus 40. Yeah, but way more possessions. Watch the playoffs in the NBA.

It gets very half-court. All these ones. 131, 128th, they all evaporate in the playoffs. And you know who's been played off the court in the playoffs? Rudy Gobert. They got to put him on the bench because he can't defend the pick and roll. And he offensively is kind of a liability. So that's interesting.

You put on your GM hat and you want to take Zach Eadie top 15. In the weakest draft maybe ever, I can take him in the top 50. Okay. Especially if I'm a team that has to face a Porzingis or a Janus or an Embed or a Yokage. and I got a bunch of wings who can't defend them. Give me a big. I know, I'll tell you this. Aesthetically, I like watching the college game.

I like watching the women and the men college over the NBA sometimes. I get a lot of different looks offensively. Let's wait for the playoffs and then you'll trust me. You and I both. We both love the NBA playoffs. I love the NBA playoffs. I'm not banging on the NBA. I'm an NBA package guy.

I watch the games. I'm into it. Tonight Warriors Lakers. I'm glued into that game. By the way, Sun's paper clips tonight. is a really good game. I think Celtics Bucks, that's a great night for the NBA. Great night. And Zach Eadie

on those great nights will be part of those teams in one year. By the way, my buddy may have an extra ticket to Lakers Warriors if you're interested. That's interesting. Okay. I'd be interested in that tonight. Yeah. Oh, I go tonight. I got the okay from the wife, so I'm good to go. Okay, I'll go tonight. Really? Is it

a good seat? It's a good seat. Not a great seat, but it's a good seat. What does that mean? We'll talk about it during the break. It's a good seat. I don't do Slow seating. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.

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or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, we were talking about Zach Eady during the break. So he had 37 points. One other guy for Purdue had like 12, and then nobody else really scored. And so think about Brooke Lopez for Milwaukee, who's a very, very good player, good BB plus player. When Brooke Lopez came into the NBA, you know, you kind of thought of him as a big guy,

kind of a plodder. He didn't shoot from the perimeter at all. And now he's a regular three-point shooter. Go look at his first five years in the league. Go look at the stats. Google it. And Brooke Lopez wasn't a guy shooting or making threes. Now he is a guy. So like Zach Edie's probably never going to be. And for the record, Anthony Davis, everybody tried to push him outside to shoot threes. He was lousy at it. And Anthony Davis is one of the best players in the NBA. He's a big. He's a big. that can't shoot threes. He's a big that's closer to the basket. Right?

Like you start looking around the NBA and you tell me he's ackeen can't play. I don't need three pointers from him. Yonnes doesn't make a lot of threes. Anthony Davis wasn't good at it. If you can defend at seven foot four, defend the rim. You know, and out west, if you've got to win the west, you've got to get past Yokic.

You need some size. I mean, Golden State just doesn't match up at all. The reason the Lakers could beat Denver and can compete with him has been. basically Anthony Davis, Jared Vanderbilt, Rui, they're big. They're long. I mean, sometimes size is a skill. There is some value.

The average NBA guy is like six, seven and a half and long. Size matters. It's a trait. You know, it's like in the NBA, NFL. If you walk around Tom Brady, he'll be at Fox. Tom Brady's 6.5. You know, Kyler Murray's not. You know, the quarterbacks, they get sacked a lot.

Tua, Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, Baker, Mayfield. field, if you go look at stats, a lot of it was they struggled to see over the line. There is an advantage to being big and tall and seeing over the line. Size matters, especially in the NBA. So the Dan Hurley stuff, people are talking about him taking the Kentucky job. He's not a good fit. And sometimes there are coaches that just fit certain situations. For a long time, the late Bob Knight was considered college basketball's best coach.

He fit Bloomington, Indiana. He was a guy that had to have complete control, very insecure, had to have power over everybody. You can do that in little old Bloomington, Indiana, middle of nowhere. You can't do that at UCLA. You can't do that in a big basketball program in a big city. He was perfect for Bloomington, Indiana. Pete Carroll at USC, the optimism, the energy. He leaned into the celebrities.

Most college football coaches are closing everything off and very provincial and protective. And Pete was open arms and everybody in. big energy, big macro view of football. Mac Brown at Texas was a great fit. He could talk to the good old boys or, you know, the big, big time billionaire donors. Joe Torrey with the Yankees. He had the New York temperament.

He could handle big celebrities, big media, New York guy, had a toughness. I always thought Joe Torrey reminded me of the stepdad, the tough stepdad, none of us wanted to ever disappoint. There are coaches that get into certain areas and their perfect fits, and that would not transfer necessarily to other places. I think Dan Hurley could win anywhere, but I think he's really perfect in Yukon. He's a serious guy from a serious basketball family,

very, very intense, maybe off-putting to other people in more laid-back areas. He is Yukon. It works. And some of these programs love the attention. You know, Kentucky is status matters, and, you know, five-star recruiting rankings. matter and midnight madness manners and Dickie V matters and Yukon is like the billionaire who

made his money in waste management or insurance. That stuff just doesn't matter and I think Hurley is the classic fit. Six titles, 25 years, no nonsense, East Coast guy, East Coast mentality. You know, it's funny. When I lived out West and I was in Portland, I would do a morning show on radio, but I had done the previous nights 11 o'clock news. So I'd get home like midnight, sleep four hours, do three-hour radio show by myself. And I can remember people out west saying, man, you're a workaholic. And then when I moved east and had a lot of hours, nobody ever said that. Because out east, you just grind.

The weather's lousy in the winter. You grind. And then you have a great time in the summer and take time off. So I was a workaholic out west and out east, I was just a worker. And like Dan Hurley, oh, my God, he's intense. No, he's not. Not in the East Coast. That's how guys operate in the East Coast.

They're grinders. East Coast guys are grinders. Big East basketball. I'm a West Coast kid. I grew up with Big East basketball. It was just more physical, more punishing, more relentless. West Coast basketball has often been pretty in offense. The Pac-12's always been about coaching and quarterbacking and the good weather, and you can throw it any time.

Midwest football, they're using two tight ends, baby. They're running downhill. They're playing in cold weather. So I think Hurley just fits. And he was asked about the Kentucky job last night. You said out on the court something about Yukon giving you all the resources you need. Can we interpret that to me and you intend to be back at Yukon next year? You're not going to entertain any conversations with anybody else that might have a job coming open tomorrow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think that's a concern. You know, my wife, you should have her answer that. She'll answer that question better than I can. Yeah, he's like, my wife's from Jersey. He said later, I don't want a divorce. I'm just making money now. I want to keep my marriage intact.

East Coast family, East Coast mentality, East Coast program. He's perfect there. And that's okay. At John Calipari, I thought was perfect for Kentucky, and they got tired of him. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the Herdline News.

I'll start with the New England Patriots, Colin. Gerard Mayo, the new head coach in New England. There's some pressure taken over for Ben. Bill Belichick, he's trying to temper expectations Mayo is in year one and had this to say when a fan referenced the Texans quick turnaround. Casario had been building that team for years before they got C.J. Stroud. I'm not asking for patience, but I kind of am. It's a process. It's not only about the quarterback. So it's weird. Should the Patriots take a quarterback high? Well, that's what a defensive coach says. As Sean McVeigh would say, the quarterback matters. Matt LaFlewer would say the quarterback. matters. I think a lot of these defensive coaches, I mean, Pete Carroll's a smart coach.

Gino Smith is good enough. Drew Locke is good enough. I don't think Sean McVeigh would think that. Sean McVeigh moved off Goff, who'd been to a Super Bowl. Kyle Shanahan moved off Jimmy Garoppel who'd been to a Super Bowl. Andy Reid moved off Pro Bowl or Alex Smith. Offensive coaches are... Green Bay and Matt LaFleur said, we're going to move off Aaron Rogers. Defense defensive coaches, eh, quarterback, win some lose some. not good enough. I've always thought you never want to follow the guy, right? The quarterback after Tom Brady.

You think he's going to be anything special compared to Brady? Like, following Belichick's not great. I'm not optimistic for the Patriots. By the way, they clearly are the worst team in the AFC East, right? Dolphins build jets. I think they're clearly the worst team in the AFC. Okay, I don't hate that. I would probably agree.

You start looking, Colin, at the schedule. I'm not trying to get excited for the Jets. they have really improved the roster. They're pretty stacked everywhere. Okay. The Buffalo Bill's just lost Diggs. Okay, yeah. And the Miami Dolphins lost like five defensive starters

because they got to pay too well. You see where I'm going with this? You can go anywhere you want with it. I'll just throw up a detour sign. Just circle back and get to third place in the AFC East. New England's the worst team in the AFC. Carolina and the Giants, I think, are in a battle for the worst teams in the NFC.

So should they pick a quarterback if they're just going to be three and 13 and probably picking first overall next year? I think if Jaden Daniels was available because of his mobility and the Patriots lack of everything. Well, playmakers, he's an interesting fit. He'd run for some yards. But I mean, Drake May is a work in progress. Jaden Daniels isn't.

I think Caleb and Jaden Daniels would walk in and play immediately and be effective. I think Drake May is a work in progress. You put a work in progress in New England with that offense. That's a disaster. You know, we saw that last year with Bryce Young and Carolina. Disaster. Well, I'm going to ask you, if Bryce Young flops and they win five games, they're going to be drafted a quarterback high next year again, right?

Yeah. So I don't see why the Patriots would be taking Jaden or Drake or whoever. Well, again, outside of a team that, I mean, I just, I think there's like three teams. I think Atlanta needs an edge rusher. Tennessee needs a tackle. Chicago needs a quarterback, and so does Washington. Outside of that, I am always, always. was a strong believer, trade down.

Get multiple pick. There's a reason you're picking in the top seven, usually. You have no players. Yeah. Next up, let's get the Patriots out of the way early. Bill Belichick, he is not going to be in the league this year. Interesting tweet from your buddy Albert Breer, how there were seven openings this year. And Belichick got none of them, which says a lot.

Well, it gets worse. Nebraska head coach Matt Ruhl invited Belichick to a coaching clinic. Belichick spent four and a half hours with the Cornhusker staff, and here's what Matt Rule had to say about meeting the goat. He is so smart. It seems so much that he can make the complex so simple that it humbles you and embarrasses you. I was embarrassed yesterday listening to him,

how smart he is, how simple it was. So you have this man who's a savant, right, who's been a defensive coordinator, he's been a special team's coordinator, he's coached, you know, he could be an offensive coordinator, who's been a head coach twice, He's been a GM person. I mean, he's, and he's talking about football in a way that just like, I mean,

illuminates things and makes things so simple that you're like, oh my goodness. I'm not doubting any of that because I have two friends that are close to Bill or as close as you can beat a bill and not be a football coach, and they say the same thing. But the league has changed. So you can be a genius, but if the culture changes beneath your feet and you don't And it doesn't work for you. I mean, you put Matt Patricia, a defensive coordinator is an offensive coordinator. And by the way, genius people, Elon Musk is a pretty sharp cat.

He's ruined his social media platform. It's a mess. It's been devalued by like $20 billion. Advertisers are fleeing the consumer experience. I'm not pro or anti-Elon Musk. X is a mess. I don't even go to it. It's just a mess.

So brilliant people can have cultural changes beneath their feet and they don't feel them. They don't act to them. So we've seen great managers in baseball, football, hockey. Like, things change, they don't change with them. I'm not denying his brilliance. But offensively, they could not draft and develop skill players for the sense, grunk. So that's indisputable. The minute Bill took over personnel, their drafts got bad, consistently and fast.

Let me give you two teams for Belichick. Should he come back next year? So McCarthy gets run off, Cowboys 8 and 9. Could you see Jerry going after Bill Belichick? No, because I just think Bill's no nonsense, and Jerry's a lot of nonsense. So speaking of nonsense, let's say Sala gets run off. Hold up. Bill Belichick has to be ticked off what the crafts have done to him with this Apple TV series. You know it privately he's seething.

He comes off looking like a buffoon. They made him look terrible. You want revenge? You go in the division to the Jets and you get revenge on the Patriots. And you know what? I'm sorry, the Jets have enough defensive talent on that team that Belichick could instantly keep them content. You go in division when Sean McDermott gets run and you take over Josh Allen and the bills. That's the one.

Yeah, Bill, Bill, I think Bill would have taken the charges job if offered because of Herbert. I think Josh Allen, if McDermott, if they step back this year and they're good, But again, they get bounced early. I think there'll be a move in Buffalo. I push Shala because he's more on the hot seat, right, than McDurban. McDerm is at least making the playoffs. But the different standard. Buffalo's standard is making the playoffs, winning playoff games,

and viable AFC championship contender. Jets aren't that. You're crossing your fingers that Aaron Rogers can make it through a season. How can he make it through September? Outside of him, the Jets might have top five roster in the league. Yeah, but none of those players are worth half a point. Josh Allen's worth 11. By the way, Mike Williams is now the Jets number two receiver.

You saw the right and left tackles they got in the offseat. I mean, this team... Old guys. Old rickety guys. I'm starting to get excited again about the Jets, and you're just like knocking me down. That's because they're not playing. You haven't seen them play yet. Final story, big game in the NBA tonight.

The Lakers hosting the Warriors. Currently, this is the 9-10 matchup in the playoffs. The Lakers need the win to get out of that 9-10 matchup. If the Warriors win, they will hold a tiebreaker over the Lakers. So there's a slim chance they could then host the play-in game against the Lakers. Now, LeBron missed the Sunday night game with flu-like symptoms. I think we both agree he's going to play tonight, right? Yes.

I think it's going to be a really good game. Anthony Davis got poked in the eye, left early. I'm assuming he's going to play tonight. Yeah. It's a big night in the NBA, and this one's as big as it gets for the Lakers. You know what? I'm going to call, I never do this. I'm going to call my friend Dremont, see if he can get me a ticket.

Your friend, Draymond. It's my friend. It's my friend. You said you didn't have good seats. No, they're good for me. They're really good seats. But, you know, you're a little bit of a different status. You're like, I mean, you know, you're a different level of them.

I'd like to be able to make eye contact with many of the great stars in the game. Oh, you want to sit next to Kim Kardashian? Is that where it is? I don't know. I've never seen her. I don't know. Listen, I think the Lakers are favored by one and a half tonight. It's a really good game.

I think, you know, you've been here for. two years. You know I've always been a skeptic on the Lakers. I love this Laker team. I think they're a nightmare matchup for everybody except Denver, and I think they match up with Denver. Since February 1st, they're 21 and 9, second best record in the league. And that's not all beating tomato cans. And that's LeBron taking lots of games off. That's Jared Vanderbilt, not in the rotation. Like, this is a really good team. I mean, your buddy, DeAngelo Russell is coming into form? Hey, since they benched him.

Austin Reeves, are we going to do the celebration? Come on. I said my vase. Austin, listen, come on board the Austin. I might get an Austin Reeves jersey for the postseason run. Good luck with that. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

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They're always like, give the guy the bag. No, don't. My rule in sports is pay big money very infrequently and to only a handful of positions. in football, quarterback, left tackle, edge rusher, wide receiver. That's it. And the Cowboys have really backed themselves into a corner here. So if they don't resign Dak in 2025 and he's gone after this next year gone, they're going to have like a $40 million dead cap hit.

And that because they kept kicking the can down the road with the cap dollars. So the truth about the Cowboys with Dak is they paid him $162 million. This is the spot they're in. They have two playoff wins. they now have the weakest running back room in the NFL, meaning they're much more reliant on Dak Prescott, and they didn't improve in free agency, and they're up against it with a cap.

Like they're in a bad space. They're out of the Super Bowl bubble. I bought into them last year for about three weeks. They went down to Miami, and I'm like, nope, they're not it. That's not it. That's not what a Super Bowl team looks like. So they've really backed themselves into the corner, and it all starts with paying a good player great money.

And then everybody looks around and goes, I mean, I would do that. If somebody's good making this and I'm thinking I'm better than him, I want to make that. I'm not taking any discounts. You pay Dak great money. He's a good player. What do you think C.D. Lamb and Michael Parsons look around and go, we're top five players in the league at our position. They are really, they were really backed into a corner in Dallas. So there's a lot of NBA rumors right now about Doc Rivers and Milwaukee.

And I have said, I don't think Milwaukee is a championship. team, but I do think they're fascinating in the playoffs because with Joe L.M. B. coming back, I think it's very possible, maybe probable, that not only Boston, but Philadelphia would toss Milwaukee around like a crouton and a salad bowl if they met. They beat him quickly. And I think the walls are closing in a little bit on Janus. So Mike Boodenholzer wins a title and come back and not quite as good. They fire him. And then they move Drew Holliday, who was respected, very popular, and a very good player. And then they move off Adrian Griffin, and I looked this morning, they were 30 and 13.

And then they do a Hail Mary with Dame, and that's not working. It's a very old roster. They need things. They need youth draft picks. They got to pivot here. Dame was a Hail Mary. So be careful about wanting all that power. And the way it works in the NBA for years is when you get a superstar and it doesn't work, we blame the owner, we blame the GM, we blame his team.

We blame the coach. But you start looking around on this. If Milwaukee, they're lucky they're an Eastern Conference team. If Milwaukee was in the West, I don't even sure they'd be a playing team. They're not as good as the Lakers. I don't think they're as good as the Warriors. They're 15 and 14. That's the number I got this morning.

15 and 14 against the West. They wouldn't qualify for the playing game in the West. They're just fortunate. They play in the East. East, which is Boston, interesting Philadelphia, and not very much talent. So I'm not sure what Milwaukee can do to appease, Yonis. They're moving through coaches. They got rid of Drew.

They bring in Dame. And, you know, I think he's a score, but now they're not playing well. Dame talked about it. Obviously, I hate how the last two weeks or so, however long it's been has gone. You know, it's uncomfortable. And it's frustrating to lose games that we should win and then have a game like tonight where we start off playing well and then have a bad third quarter

and get those guys believing and then they take over the game. But when I look around the locker room, I just feel good about it. So I'll say again, J-Mack thinks I'm nuts here. The Warriors need another superstar that is on Steph's timeline. Milwaukee needs youth, draft picks, maybe a new coach. I don't think they can appease Janus. He's moving through coaches.

If the dock thing doesn't work, where do you go? They're old. The time matters a lot for Milwaukee. It's an old roster. Okay. How's this? Janus says, sure, I would like to go to Golden State. But the New York Knicks step up with a better trade package.

Do the bucks have to do Janus right and say, we'll send you to Golden State where you want to go? Thanks for the title. Or do they say, sorry, pal, you want out. We're taking what's best for us. I would have no problem with Janus going to the Knicks because I love Jalen Brunson. After seeing him in person Friday, I'm even more impressed. I think Brunson's the best star in New York since Patrick Ewing, and I think he actually elevates teammates as much as Ewing.

So you give me Janice and Jalen Brunson and a bag of marbles. I think I'm in the Eastern Conference finals. I mean, I really do. I think Brunson, you know, it's like Bam and Butler and a good coach. I think Brunson and Janus is a great four-year run, and you're going to knock a lot of people off. I thought just two years ago we were saying that Janice's DNA is the international guy. I'm going to stick it out. I'm going to ride with the franchise that drafted me.

Forget this jumping around teaming up nonsense. I will say this. When, like, if you moved overseas and you were really good at what you did, you would come in feel like a visitor. But then after a while, if you were like the best blank at what you did in Italy, you get a little ego, a little alpha, and you'd say, you know, I'm going to do things kind of the way I used to do them. And this is what I want.

Janus came here, won MVP, won titles, and it's like, yeah, I won. And by the way, being criticized, we want another. I mean, Calipari won at Kentucky. He moved on. So I think Janus is, I would call it being westernized. We have a different pressure here, a bigger, louder media here. He's lucky he's in a small market. And I think he's like saying, okay, if you want me to win two titles, this isn't it.

Boston's... Not only is Boston better and deeper, much deeper. Boston's a match-up issue. I think Boston could sweep Milwaukee. Not Philadelphia, but Milwaukee. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

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