The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 1 - Warriors, Jazz, Browns

Episode Date: April 19, 2022

The Warriors are well run with a good fanbase Teams like the Jazz can't afford to miss in the draft The recent moves by the Browns Guest: Derek HarperSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Boy, we had a, what, two-year, a little span without the Warriors ruining everyone's most season. The Warriors are back, y'all. They look good. They look really good last night. So it's interesting. What I'm about to say is the truth. It will sound like opinion. The younger the crowd is in any sport, the louder the crowd is.

Why? Well, young crowds, more testosterone, no kids often, not married, they spend their money on sports. They're loud. You want to have tickets that young people can afford. But there is a city in the country that has lots and lots of rich young people. I'm reading it here. The U.S. city with the most millennials earning the most money, number one is San Francisco. and number two is neighboring Oakland, and they are all warrior fans. That is the loudest arena in the NBA, and it's not close. No fan base feeds off its team,

and no team feeds off its fan base. What about Phoenix? Phoenix's home and road records the same. They're great everywhere. Because of all the money in tech, the Warriors have the youngest, most rabid fan base. You want young fans. Old Yankee State.

Younger crowd, wildly raucous. Then they rebuilt it, charged more for tickets. That made the crowd older and more affluent. The stadium got quieter. I saw this at the University of Oregon. Otson Stadium was a crazy place. Then they rebuilt it, charged more for tickets, priced out a lot of the young people. But San Francisco in Oakland is where young people make millions of dollars

and buy seats on the floor. By the way, third is New York. It's why Madison Square Garden is so. loud. You want young crowds and what you saw last night, it was palpable on television. The nuggets had the size, but they shrank. They became the McNuggets. The crowd, they have led after the first quarter in both games and then evaporated. You could see the seams, the tears, the fabric coming apart. And the crowd has a ton to do with it. I mean, Steph is great. When he played this year, they had the best record at home. And we don't give fans.

a lot of credit for stuff. We think it's just about athletes, but basketball is unique. Because of the proximity, fans to the players and fans to the officials, it can be more intimidating. In hockey, you don't hear the fans. Certainly you're not next to them. Same in football, same in baseball. But they did a study years ago on college basketball officiating. People always say the NBA's got bad officials.

NBA's got great officials. They're human. They miss calls. And they found in college with younger officials, They were wildly influenced by crowds. Older NBA officials were not. But when you watch the Warriors, you are looking at the most,

the loudest because young people drink more, right? They drink more, they stay up later. Sports is a bigger part of their life. They don't have to go home. They're often not married. They don't have kids. And they party all night. And they live for the Warriors.

And they're on the message board. And they get there early and they get lubricated. and that crowd is insane. And I've watched the nuggets now in back-to-back games completely unravel, 418 straight sellouts. And this is a memo to all you billionaires who want to build fancy new stadiums. You better create seating for young people. Now, in San Francisco and Oakland, it doesn't matter because young people make a ton of money.

Same in New York. Madison Square Garden. If you've ever been to a basketball game at Madison Square, I've been in 30 basketball All arenas. I've not been in the new Oracle. Madison's Square Garden is just louder. It's all those Wall Street kids making money. They don't have to be home at night.

They can sleep on their buddy's couch. They don't care. Sports is their life. But when you build these new stadiums, please, please, please keep in mind seating for young people. Because it is an advantage for the Warriors. It is a clear advantage.

That fan base is nuts. It's too bad Jim Dolan owns the Knicks and they can't get their act together. Because basketball is better when New York is great. And it's not because I love the uniforms. It's because Madison Square Garden is, it's crazy. It is so loud on top of you, lubricated. And what I watched over the last couple of games in this series, Denver's just not,

they don't want that smoke. They got no interest. They are just, they are not ready for it. They're not ready for that crowd. They're not ready for that team. And the Warriors feed off it because their best player is a flashy player. And he gets the crowd. This is not a dull, you know, this is not a team.

The bad boys, we play defense. This team's all about shooting threes, flash speed up and down the floor, and the crowd, and Steph gets them worked up. It's quite a scene on television, and the Warriors are back. Good luck to the rest of the NBA. So a second story. Utah Jazz could not beat the Mavericks without Luca. So they won one or two games.

The Utah Jazz have always been a really good job. Coaching the Utah Jazz, really good job with no chance to be a great job. It's like Wisconsin football. It's a really good job. Athletic directors are good. Facilities are good. The fans are great. State of Wisconsin's got like six Division I players every year that can play.

Utah is a good job. But they have to go international and get home runs in the draft because like the Packers, it's not a free agent place. If you look at the greatest jazz team of all time, they got Stockton and Malone in back-to-back picks, but one was 13th, one was 16th. They've got to hit home runs. They've got to go international. Boyan Bogdanovich, Rudy Gobert, Joe Ingalls.

They've got to go international because they don't get free agents. They've got to hit home runs in the draft, and they've done it before. But this is why Quinn Snyder is looking at the Lakers. The jazz do everything right. The fans are amazing. The facility is great. The new owner is super smart. The coach is amazing.

But it's hard there. You got to go overseas. You've got to get home runs in the draft. You don't get the free agent edge. And I've seen this before. Notre Dame is a great job, but Brian Kelly was right. LSU is a greater job in 2022. Easier to get kids in.

There's more players in the geographic footprint. Oklahoma's a great job. USC when it's on fire is greater. Why? Because there's 125 Division I players in California. There's 12 a year in Oklahoma. You don't have to beg them to play. You don't have to leave the state to get 90% of your players.

The Packers and the Jazz have limitations. Caram Malone was an 85 draft, the 13th pick. Stockton and the 84 draft was a 16th pick. You hit back-to-back home runs, you can be in finals for years and years and years. I grew up with a Seattle Mariners. Same thing. We are so geographically isolated in the Pacific Northwest, they fly almost 50,000 miles a year.

That's why in the second half, the Mariners always run out of gas. They're on planes too long. But I look at Quinn Snyder, and I see a great, coach and a well-run organization and a rabid fan base and Rudy Gober's a remarkable defensive player. But one injury to Joe Ingalls or it was Bogdanovitch the year before and they're not a championship team. In fact, they're not even a conference champion. They're not going to get to the Western Conference Finals. As good as Quinn Snyder is, eight season, no conference finals. It's not because he can't coach. It's not because it's not a good front office. It's not because Donovan, Mitchell, and Rudy

Gobert aren't individually great, but if they have any little injury, they lose a Bogdanovich, do a wrist injury, Joe Engels out, it's over. They don't have excess. Like LSU football has a third NFL running back in the depth chart. Notre Dame's got a second. That's the difference. Utah, the Jazz, that is a really good job. But it's got a ceiling on it.

And I was watching that last night as they sort of unravel and I think, man, you got to win this series. Luke is not there. You got to win this series. you got your two stars the jazz have what many would perceive is the better coach the best defensive player your stars available Dallas doesn't have Luca you got to win the series I'm not blaming anybody you got to win it and that is the frustration that is why people will leave what appears to be a really good job in college for a great job fewer limitations fewer obstacles, warmer weather, more kids in the geographical footprint.

So is I really, by the way, there's a ceiling for Canadian teams, right? Chris Bosch, get me out, the taxes, the weather, the geography. Nick Nurse, Toronto's up for the Laker job, Quinn Snyder, Utah, up for the Laker job. You don't have to leave Philadelphia. You don't have to leave the Celtics. You don't have to leave the heat or the Lakers or the clippers. You go in a lot of places. They don't have the obstacles.

But as I watch Utah unravel, I thought they have to win the series. Like this is the same group of guys for years and years. You got the coach. You got the start offensive center. You got Donovan Mitchell. You're missing Ingalls. Okay. All right.

They're missing Luca. This is the kind of loss where a Quinn Snyder goes, all right. I've done everything I can. But it's just a good job. A very good job. But it can't be a great job. All right, good stuff. Kyler Murray, all sorts of drama in Arizona.

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Highest NBA rating, playoff ratings, first round in 11 years. We March Madness got great ratings. All this stuff, you know, your fandals, sports gambling, people stay around, watch longer, more engaged. Sports dominates television. There's just the ratings for sports right now. Sports is a great industry to be in talking about it, playing it, coaching it, scouting it. It's just a great place to be right now. In this country, it's involved with sports.

Also, just the level of talent is so high across all of these sports. Yes, that there's so much more parity. I mean, you're watching the Warriors last night. If you pick the suns, aren't you, like, a little nervous? And the sons are obviously still great, but they look incredible. Yeah, like sports. There's so much parity. Sports has exploded, not only internationally.

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Kingsbury, extensions. So he sent a message to Kyler, Marie, and his agent and everybody else. We're not going to get bullied here. These guys are staying. We don't know if you are, Kyler, but those guys are staying. You're not going to bully us. Secondly, Kyler Murray's issues, and I've been told this for years,

they were well aware of him when they drafted him. He tends to be sort of selfish, aloof. I mean, he wasn't totally committed to football. He's just wildly talented, like crazy talent. He's gotten better every year, and they've won more games every year, and they love him. But they kind of knew his stuff. So this is being presented as, oh, my God, can you, they've been doing this stuff behind the scenes for years.

They knew this day would come. They strongly believed he would be more of a holdout, guy than a DAC or a Brady or a Russell Wilson. That was his personality. His dad has a presence. This is something that they're well aware of. And they have budgeted to sign Kyler Murray. And I don't want to sign him early. And they're concerned about his health. He's been hurt twice. I said this when he came out. You can't look at his size and tell me it's not somewhat of a concern. Nobody thinks, you know what I want my quarterback to be? Five, ten. They don't. Everybody would love Russell Wilson to be six three and move around like that.

that size is offensive linemen now or six seven you don't want a five ten quarterback he's not a great pocket thrower some of it like russell wilson is he has to kind of create passing lanes because he is a little shorter it's not ideal now russell's going to be a hall of famer kiler could be a hall of famer as well but it's not ideal years ago there was a quarterback many of you most of you have never heard of him his name was fran tarkenton he went to georgia then minnesota fran was a great quarterback he was five eleven he ran around a lot. Why? Because he had to create passing lanes. It's hard to see over the offensive linemen that are now all 6-6 and 6-7. Some are taller than that. So Larry Fitzgerald called out Kyler Murray publicly.

Larry Fitzgerald is probably the most respected NFL player, the singular most respected NFL player in 20 years. He is the gold standard of American football players. He is the gold standard. And Larry Fitzgerald called him out, said, you know, Arizona gave him too much too early. He feels himself a lot. They know this. They've dealt with it. It's discussed. It's known in the building. But it's a great division. He's a remarkable player. I would resign him. I would try to structure it based on I'll pay him a ton of money guaranteed early. I don't want to get trapped late because I do worry about his health. I said this about Debo Samuel. I love Debo Samuel. He's not built the tarmac's not long with Debo. Like Larry Fitzgerald didn't get hurt. Calvin Johnson. Some guys you feel like you, play for 15 years. D.K. Metcalf, my guess is, won't be heard a lot. He's just so physically unique.

Julio Jones is broken down now, but after like 10, 12 years of just being so reliable. There are certain athletes, their style, their body, they were hurt in college, they're smaller, they're more collision prone. George Kittle, I love George Kittle of the Niners, but he collides for a living. Gronk collides for a living. Debo Samuel does. And so with Kyler, I'd like structure it so I'm not trapped if he gets hurt again and he will. I told you years ago, I had an all, he's going to be a Hall of Fame player, a defensive end in the NFC, tell me, off air. I've hit him. He don't like to get hit. Kyler doesn't like to get hit. When you're 5'10, running around and weigh 90 pounds less than the guy's whacking you, he doesn't like to get hit.

And he said, I don't think he's long for the league. I think he's great and I think he'll play, but that career is going to be closer to nine years than 20. And so if I, if I I was Arizona, this is a player that I would pay. But a lot of this is being presented as, you know, this is an exploding problem and you've got to move off him. Arizona has been well aware of this stuff and has been managing it and has budgeted for it and is expecting it. And it's all good. And I think they're going to pay him. So when it gets presented as urgent and they're fearful and they don't know.

Folks, just because your kid does something at school to get suspended, it doesn't mean the parents didn't know it was coming, right? Like there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes. Oh my God, our friends got divorced. Yeah, the couple knew about it for three years when they went to therapy. So Arizona's got this under control. It's now being thrust into the public light, which always makes it uncomfortable for GMs, coaches, players, owners, agents.

That's not where you want to be. They know what's going on here. Kyler likes Arizona. The coach loves him. He likes the coach. They'll get this done, is my prediction. He's got to figure out they're not going to be bullied. They extend their coach and jam.

They will not be bullied on this. But they got their arms around this. I don't know if they're all going to therapy, but they've got their arms around this situation. Joy with the News. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

Well, Joel Mbede said he heard the Raptors head coach, Nick Nurse, complaining to the officials about the way that he was being officiated in game one. And Mbid had a message for Nick Nurse at the end of game two. He's a great coach, obviously. I got what he's been able to accomplish and always been a big fan. But I told him, you know, respectfully and told him to stop b-b-a-buck-law calls. because I saw what he said last game. I mean, if you go, you know, triple team somebody all game,

you know, they're bound to, you know, get to the free throw line. I feel like, you know, every foul were legit and probably should have been more, honestly. Embed could be seen docking to Nick Nurse on the sideline near the end of the game. And Nick Nurse said that Embed told him, I'm going to keep making all the free throws if you keep fouling. and Embed went 12 for 14 from the line. And this is a huge advantage for Joelle Embed that he is hitting his free throws

because he's getting fouled at that rate and going to the line, make your free throws. And that's a huge difference in the game. He went to the line 11 times in game one. It was 9 for 11. So he finished with 31 points and 11 rebounds. And now the 6 just have a 2-0 lead. We're showing them arguing

2-0 lead over the Raptors in the series after a 112-97 win last night. I mean, they're handling the Raptors pretty easily. Well, we said this going into the playoffs. I think we both picked the Sixers. Yes. And our takeaway is the Sixers have flaws, but no ceiling.

Right. The Raptors don't have any flaws, but a clear ceiling. Like, who do you go to with three minutes left? Fred Van Bleet's like, okay, I get hardened. By the way, Maxie is an ascending player. And there are moments when he takes over the game as there are three. Well, when you're mostly, I don't want to say even, but when you have two talented rosters, when you have two good head coaches and two

you know, I don't know if I want to say Philadelphia has a great culture as of yet. Toronto certainly does. When you have two strong cultures, I'll say that. Then it comes down to the stars. Yeah. Who has better stars? If everything else is mostly even or at least, you know, comparable, you got to come down to the stars and the six years have more. And that's really with making a big difference in this situation.

Also, Joel Embed is a pretty big guy. And he's great. He's in the MVP race, like, finished in top three, could possibly win it. And that's what it is. Nick Nurse is a great coach. They have a, this is why I pick the Raptors the year that they got Kauai, because they are a great regular season team. They're well-run, talented, have good culture.

The stars make the difference when everything else is even. And I think this is going to be a short series between those two teams. So Marcus Smart has been named the NBA defensive player of the year. It's the first defensive player of the year for Smart. He's the first guard to take it home since Gary Payton in the 95-96 season. And Smart and Gary Payton are the only two points. Guards to have won it. Gary Payton was there presenting, introducing it to him. I love how they, like, waited until Gary was out of the way before he started throwing all the

water. Smart said he was blown away by the honor. McCall Bridges and Rudy Goberer ended up second and third. He finished the season ranked seventh in the NBA in steals, fifth among all NBA guards and defensive rating. He's a great example. Marka Smart day one in the league. Now, when he first broke into the league, it was, I think he was an Oklahoma State guy. He was a defender. he couldn't shoot. And he's become more reliable offensively. Marcus Smart is a great example of there's some things he's not going to do. It reminds me a little of Bruce Bowen who played with the Spurs.

I mean, Marcus could score more, but he understands totally what the Celtics need of him. He is an annoyance. He plays hard. He can be physical. He is wildly valuable to this franchise. Not everybody's a finisher. You need guys like this on championship team. Draymond Green totally gets his role.

Defend, annoy, move the ball. Big things difficult for the other team's best player. The greatest teams ever. Warriors have their glue guy, Draymond. You know, the Chicago Bulls had a lot of different players. Rodman. Ron Harper. Ron Harper could score 25 a night.

He knew with the Bulls, that wasn't his role. And I think Marcus Smart is a credit to Marcus getting it. Listen, I'm going to have a 20-year career here. but I'm you know everybody can score in college but then you get to the NBA and a coach says hey I don't want you to shoot much and for a lot of guys they just can't handle it yeah I mean everyone doesn't need to be the score in the NBA that's I say this all the time and I don't know that the Celtics are a championship team this year but teams that are competitive every single year that are there every single year and in the conversation you have great role players

and everyone appreciates what it is that they're supposed to do at the highest level. Everyone's not trying to get theirs and compete. That's right. You have assignments. Do your assignment. Do your job. And that elevates everybody else. Everyone's not supposed to do the same thing. So the chiefs traded Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins, which created a bit of a hole with the wide receiver position. But Andy Reed doesn't think it's going to impact their offense too much. I don't think it'll be significantly different. It'll be similar to what we did when in the games that Tyreek couldn't play in. And, you know, we just, there are certain things that he did, did very well that we'll have people try to fill in those spots, but without force it anything.

We normally, what we do on this is we try to play to the player's strengths on the best we can. So we'll see with the new, with some of the new guys, what they can do. And then we'll work around that. I'm very interested to see how this plays out for both teams. I think, I'm in Kansas City and for Miami. I have Andy Reed and Mahomes. I'm going to say,

I'm going to be, they're going to be fine. I'm going to go with, they're going to be fine. Fine is such an interesting word. Well, don't you like when somebody walks up and says, man,

you're fine. Well, right, what I'm saying? It's an interesting word. Are they fine? Are they going to be fine? Is it like when you ask your girl

if she's good and she's like, fine? Oh, that's bad. That is cold. So I'm saying. What kind of fine are you talking about here? I do think that, When you lose a player as dynamic as Tyreek Hill, you can't patchwork that.

But you do have Mahomes and Andy Reid. Yeah, they're not going to be as fast on the perimeter. Right. Or as explosive. Because what Tyree Kill does at the highest level cannot be duplicated. That's right. But that doesn't mean they can't because there's a lot of belief in the NFL. They're going to become a little bit more of a power team.

A little more physical. Not as reliant on the home run, but always capable of it because of Patrick Mahomes. Like, Andy Reed has a history of figuring stuff out. If I have Mahomes in Andy's brain and Mahomes's talent, I just feel like it's like Buffalo. McDermott, Josh Allen, they're going to make the playoffs. If they're healthy, they can win a Super Bowl. For 10 years, Kansas City is good enough to win a Super Bowl with Mahomes and Reed.

That's all I know. Yes. Now, Tyree Hill had over 1,200 yards, 111-11 receptions. So it's volume also that they'll be missing. You got, he is what championship teams need. you get a free, free touchdowns. Right. You can't do 12 play drives consistently.

Like that's Stafford to Gough. Stafford will get you cheaper touchdowns. He's just got a bigger arm. He reads the defense better. Goff, everything was 12 plays. McVeigh's like, I can't coach perfectly. But see, that's sort of, that's what makes me curious to see how they're going to replace him because they needed that.

They needed that in this postseason. Now, well, they went out and got a speed guy from the Packers, so their takeaway is we're not going to be as fast, but we're not going to relinquish. all of our cheap touchdown. Right, as long as we have somebody they can get down there. We'll get five, not 12. But we're not going to give it up because we do like speed in our offense.

And Mahomes has a huge arm. I'm just very, I can't wait for the season. So if a woman says, if you say you're fine, that's great. You're like, Joy, how are you doing? Fine. Oh, that's cold. It's not good. If I say to you tomorrow in the makeup room, how are you?

And you say, fine. Oh, boy, I said something. She's not happy with me. No. Good is okay. All right. Fine is no good. All right. Joy with the news. Now, I know a lot of people in Ohio, and this is terribly unfortunate, think I don't like their city. This is, of course, wrong. I'm very nice with the Ohio State Buckeyes, always complimentary. And as difficult as this is for Cleveland to admit, I was totally right on Baker Mayfield. Hold on. I'd like to savor in it for a second. Anywho, I'm going to be right again. I don't necessarily like the things I'm.

I hear about Deshawn Watson. I have real doubts about his character. I think any reasonable person should. But they just paid Denzel Ward a ton of money. And people went, whoa. So let's look at now who the Cleveland Browns are paying. Their quarterback of fortune, a cornerback, Miles Garrett, and Amari Cooper.

Who else does that? The L.A. Rams. They're paying the right positions. I said this two years ago. Andrew Berry's smart. They got the right GM. Stop arguing about Baker. He knows that you don't.

I knew it too. But I don't want to rub it in. Quarterback, cornerback, pass rusher, wide receiver. That's what the Rams do. The bad teams in this league pay the wrong people. The bears right now pay a safety, a center, and a linebacker. The Jets pay a linebacker and a center. The Seahawks pay two safeties.

The Jags paid a fortune for a slot-wide receiver. Cleveland fans, you're paying a star quarterback, a star receiver, a star edge rusher, and a star corner. That's the Rams. That's the difference between the get-it franchises and the don't-get-it-franchises. Everybody's got a salary cap. Who the hell you're paying? Cleveland's GM gets it. He gets it.

This is the way to do it. This is the new NFL. You go look at the giants and the Jets and the Seahawks and these struggling third and fourth place teams. They're paying safeties. The Rams had a really good safety, John Johnson. And a couple years ago, they're like, no, we're going to let him go. He's good.

He went to Cleveland. My question is, will Cleveland eventually pay him again? Probably not. You don't pay safeties or interior linemen or tight ends or, frankly, running backs. You don't. You don't pay a running back big money. What you do is you draft one, every year, every other year, and you have a rotating three or four, and they make combined

17 million, not one guy making 24. And so this is a great sign. Now, the whole Deshawn Watson thing, I don't like it. I don't know how it ends. It's ugly. I don't trust him. It's a mess. We can agree on that.

I'm not rationalizing that. What I'm saying is this proves to you, your GM knows what he's doing. Now, now, Cleveland, you don't have the Rams owner. I don't trust Jimmy Haslam like I do staying cronky, but I don't know, you know, I know Stan, I don't know Jimmy, so I'm not going to make any, you know, other than what I see, the Rams have less of a ceiling because I think their owner is as good as any owner in the NFL. But this is, this is how you do it. So here's the good news, Cleveland. You got a really good young coach, offensive side, check, super smart GM, check. and you have a star quarterback.

I got my questions about, but he's a top 10, 12 quarterback. He is. I'm not going to deny that. Check. Maybe, maybe he's half a season. But that's three of the big checks. Star quarterback, great GM, really good young offensive coach. It's a good day in Cleveland.

It's really good. This is how you play the game. Don't pay safeties of fortune and tight ends and slot receivers like the Jags. I got nothing against Christian Kirk, but he, people try to rationalize that contract on the internet. It's like, I like him. I don't like him that much. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, what's up, everybody? It's me, three-time Pro Bowl of LaVar Arrington,

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Derek Harper, they retired his jersey with the Mavs. He played 16 years in a lot of playoff games, assist steals most in Mavs franchise history, and now they're TV analyst. Derek Harper, it's great to see you again. So I said last night, like, this is a situation. series Utah should win. Luca's not around. He won't be 100%.

Gobert, Mitchell, you got a great coach. It's the same guys for like five years. I feel the pressure is completely on Utah in this series now. I really do. I think Dallas is playing a little bit with House money. Your takeaway on that.

I would completely concur, Colin, when you start talking about Utah and the expectations in this series, there's no question about it. Without Luca, Utah should be the favorite. But I think the one thing that people need to understand about this Maverick team

is that they really has, they've taken on the personality of Jason Kidd, which is cool, calm, and collecting. So the fact that Luca is out doesn't send this team in a frenzy, if you would. They're relaxed. They believe in each other. Jalen Brunson, Spencer Denwitty,

or they're really solid. when it comes to a back court, they compliment each other very well, and they're not afraid of the moment. Both of these guys have something to prove. Jalen, obviously a free agent after this year, Spencer Dinwiddie came over from Washington and had somewhat of a rocky stay there.

So where this team is, is it a team that really believes Jason has freed them up and created a different atmosphere. And as a result, Colin, they're getting results as a team doesn't matter the opponent. You know as well as I know. If you defend, you have a chance to win. Shots come and know.

But this team is really solid on the defensive side. So that gives them a chance. Yeah, you were a two-time-all defensive player in the NBA as well. You know, it is interesting with Lucas. Should I be concerned, Derek? Calf injury, came into camp out of shape. Should I be concerned a little bit on that? Listen, we know he's great.

But it's a lot more than that, Derek. It's the time, the commitment. They have the same issues in L.A. with Anthony Davis. Is he a leader? Is he putting the time in? His body's breaking down. Should I be concerned about Luca? That's quite a few questions.

The leadership part, Colin, I don't think so. I don't think there's a player in this league that wants to win as much as Luca wants to win. With that being said, he's young. And I think that's the one thing that we all. forget that these kids are 22, 23 years old. And it takes time to be a leader. Very few guys come into the league as leaders. Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, well, not even Kobe. But Magic came into the league. He's a prime example to me of a guy that was ready made to leave. And it's a process. And Luke is learning how to do that. You can't question his talent. You can't question

his will to want to win. But I don't think, and I think Luke will agree to this, there is no excuse for a professional basketball player to ever not be in the proper condition to do his job. Lucas said as much himself. So I quote him in saying that. But I think people think that one guy makes a team. And that's just not the case with this Maverick team. Like I said, a few minutes ago, they believe even without Luca that they have a chance to win this series.

They're that confident as a team. So I think moving forward, Luca gets it now. I think he's going to be, he's got to approach things a little bit different as a player. And I think Luke will be very, he'll be just final when it comes to his future and moving forward. Philadelphia is an interesting team. They've got flaws, but not much of a ceiling. You played with Doc Rivers, if I recall, with the Knicks, so you know him well. I thought he was a, I think he's a good fit for this team because Hardin's not always easy.

Embed has got a presence. you've got the ascending player in Maxi. You've got a player in Tobias Harris, who may feel a little lost, you know, with all these guys. I said, Doc Rivers reminds me to Joe Torrey, the baseball manager, is that he's the stepdad you don't want to disappoint. And that he's going to massage all this stuff. What do you make of Philadelphia? Do you see a ceiling? What do you make of him?

I like Philly. Doc is my guy. And I think Doc, the biggest compliment I can give. give him, he's a people person. He understands what it takes to be a leader of men. Doc will get all that there is to get out of this team. You talked about Maxie. I think that's the key.

It's one thing to have two guys, you know, James Harden and B. Those guys are kind of a wash in what they're going to give you night in and night out. You add a guy like Maxie and you have something special. My only question about Philadelphia, Colin, is, the depth situation. Because they have a lot of guys that are reserved players. They come and they go. Fybole is a guy in this series,

and I'm not one of these people that think this series is over, because Toronto, very good at home. But I just think that when you think about Philadelphia, the pressure is what I wonder if James Harden, just the team as a whole, can handle because there's a lot of pressure in Philadelphia to win and win now. This team was built for right now, and if they can handle that,

their contender in the Eastern Conference, there's a lot of talent and parity in the Eastern Conference right now. So I give them a chance, and if they don't come through like they're supposed to, I don't think you put it on anybody except for the players. You know, you make a big trade, and for James Harden, he has to be one of those guys that's going to step up and make a difference.

for the 76ers. Who's the best team you saw? You do the games for the Mavericks. You played in this place for 12 years in Dallas, 16 overall. Who is the best team you saw top to bottom this year in the league and why? Without a doubt, it's the Phoenix Suns. And I just think the cohesion, well, first of all, Monty Williams is a absolutely brilliant coach.

He knows how to get guys buy into Moni's approach to coaching. So I think he's fabulous as a coach. And then they have you need a mix of young and older players. They have that. You think about their youth. They're young, but they're very

talented. And then you have some experience when you start talking about Chris Paul what he brings to the table. You saw what he did in game one of the series that they're playing in. And I just think that it's a process, Colin, right?

You think about Chicago. They had to get through Detroit. The Lakers and Boston had their wars. That's what winning a championship is all about. And I think Phoenix has, they've taken the necessary steps, if you would, to be successful when it comes to this time of the year. It's not about one or two individuals. It's about everybody collectively.

And I just think that, you know, the fact that they tasted last year against Milwaukee, they kind of know which buttons to push, you know, when to go, when to slow. And Chris Paul is an absolute assassin in late-game situation. So they have all the ingredients to be successful. I love seeing you, Derek, love hearing from you, continued success, crushing it for the Mavs, and good luck to you. I appreciate that, Colin.

Any time for you, bud. All right, Derek Harper, great player, played defense, played the game the right way. You know, did Jalen Brunson go to Villanova? I love Villanova guys in the NBA. You know why I love Villanova guys? Because Jay Wright makes them play defense. And they stay in, they don't do one. Yeah, they don't do one in Duns.

So you put these Villanova guys like Mikhail Bridges, you put these Villanova guys on your team. They're never the star. They're never the one, but they're the three, the four. They play hard. They play defense. They have been built in Villanova. They're great teammates.

They practice hard. Both ends of the floor. They're coachable. If you could have like six Villanova guys on your roster and then a Kentucky guy, I got to have an A. But I just, every time there's a Villanova guy in the league, I'm always like just they do it the right way. They coachable, they play hard, both ends of the floor. They don't gripe. They're not a victim.

They just head down. Jalen Brunson, we need you. Luke is out. Give us more minutes. Do more things. Boom. They deliver. That's my theory.

Six Villanova guys on every team. You're all good. It's kind of hard. You'll have to make some trades to get it done, but it's very good in the end. NFL draft around the corner. Somebody's going to over-draft these quarterbacks. It's going to happen. There's an argument to be made.

One of them is not a first or second-round quarterback, but there's a rumor out there about the team going to draft Kenny Pickett and they're going to draft them in the top 10. You're not a top-10 player, but it's almost like in life. If you need a car and transportation, you'll overpay for it. because the alternative is Uber. And that's worse. You can't Uber to work, or you have to take the bus, the public.

A lot of people don't want to take that. So there are things that you like overdraft, overpay for because the alternative, if you don't have a quarterback, you can all get fired in the front office. Hour one, done, hour two coming up live in L.A. It's the hurt. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

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