The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - You just need the right QB

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

A lot of people are starting to blame 49ers HC Kyle Shanahan but Colin believes the Niners just need the right QB Colin lists teams that are in the Super Bowl bubble Jimmy Johnson doesn't envision Cowboys hiring Deion Sanders   Guest: Jimmy JohnsonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Star-studded show, great final show. Then four days of watching football hanging out with family. And our studio lights just went down. I have no idea what happened. But Jay Mack, we are our awesome. Audio is alive and well, and how are things, my friend? Well, power out is to start the day, huh? Yeah, somewhere in the world.

Somebody forget to pay a bill, maybe? I'm not exactly sure. It'll take a while. I thought Fox was doing fine. I, you know, I see them flickering back on our auxiliary lighting. So we apologize for our TV audience. Here we go. They're slowly coming back up, our auxiliary lighting. That's a first in my career.

There we go. By the way, I look better when the lights are off, so I do apologize for the television audience. So anyway, I hope you have a great time with your fam. Jay Mack will have a lively show today. I saw you cut the facial hair. I had to get rid of it. Got a couple complaints.

No management, just friends and family. What are you doing? All right. Well, first off, Jay Mack will have more on this. Daniel Jones, the beleaguered quarterback for the New York Giants. He just signed with the Vikings. I'm happy for Daniel Jones. No chaos.

Great offensive coach. also the Vikings get a very experienced nice kid we talked about this yesterday I root for young people to avoid chaos maybe when you're older you can handle it so Daniel Jones great place for him to go offensive coach weapons no pressure understudy great for the Vikings they get a big strong kid with a lot of start but he loves the NFL so I want to talk 49ers so the 49ers you know I just got to a Super Bowl

and they've been sort of the raining West Coast power for a long time And they're a very popular franchise. They're a little bit like the Yankees out east. We're in the summer. Everybody's wearing a Yankee hat. Out west, it's a lot of Dodgers and a lot of San Francisco 49er hats. There's a huge brand. They fill stadiums, home or away.

And I'm seeing a lot of stories now blaming the coach Kyle Shanahan. Late game management is the reason, says an NFL executive to the athletic. I want to discuss that for a second. And Debo Samuel is supporting him. but it's funny about blame. For years, Andy Reed, for years in Philadelphia, everybody knew he was smart, but he got called a terrible clock management coach.

Oh, just the worst. And then Andy Reid got Patrick Mahomes and that all disappeared. And Brady and Belichick, for years, the Niners were the best clock management efficient, situational football team in the world. And then Tom Brady went to Tampa. And Belichick looked like every other coach in the league with an average quarterback. Penalties.

Clock management. Losing games they led in the fourth quarter. Funny how that works, isn't it? So when your quarterbacks in San Francisco for Kyle Shanahan or Jimmy Garoppolo, Trey Lance, and Brock Purdy, who, by the way, may be a great fit. He's not a great quarterback. Brock Purdy doesn't erase your mistakes. Lamar Jackson does.

John Elway did. Brady did. Peyton Manning did. Breeze did. Marino did. They erased mistakes. LeBron's done this. LeBron has erased a lot of bad coaching moves for a long time in the NBA.

Now, that's what, you know, the great players like a Janus can do or a Wembe can do. So that's what the great athletes do. I mean, USC Caleb Williams. Remember when he went to USC, they won 11 games. Defense was atrocious. It was atrocious. It may be the worst tackling defense in the country. USC won 11 games should have won 12.

But their defense gave up a late touchdown to Tulane. I mean, go look at Mike McDaniel with Tua. When Mike McDaniel has Tua, and I don't consider him a great all-time quarterback, but with Tua, you're like, man, Mike McDaniel, whoo? That guy is a wizard. Without him, he looks like a bottom five coach. They can't get first downs. So here's the problem for Kyle Shanahan.

Brock Purdy is smallish, hurt again. They were in the Daniel Jones sweepstakes. They wanted a veteran backup. And by the way, in his last 12 starts, I looked it up this morning. Brock Purdy, six and six in a 95 passer rating. That's good. It's not a racer material. It's not Mahomes changing Andy Reid's career and narrative.

So you can bang on Kyle Shanahan all you want. But the reason they took such a big swing on Trey Lance is they were hoping he was an eraser. Because even if you're a great coach, Andy Reid, Belichick, Shanahan, if you have just a good quarterback and not an A-plus quarterback, this is what happens to you. All of a sudden now everybody's going, I don't know.

He's losing a lot of games that Kyle Shanahan for the record of the last 21 Super Bowl winning quarterbacks. 21, 18. Hall of Famers. Go look, go. You could Google it if Google was around 20 years ago. Go Google how much everybody hammered Andy Reid. Now he's considered by a long shot the best coach in the league.

So yesterday, there's a couple more to go, starting December 20th, for the first time ever in the history of college football, we'll have a 12-team playoff. So it used to be at the end, you get, you know, when I grew up, it was AP voted for it. The media voted for the national championship game, which was hokey. And there's BC as a college playoff. Now, for the first time ever, this year we'll have 12 teams. And so last night, two weeks left, they released the playoffs. Now, again, do not overreact. Two weeks left in my lifetime, college footballs, last two weeks,

rivalry week and championship week, anything can happen. I'll give you an example. J. Mack was right yesterday. I'm going to reverse my pick. I'm taking USC plus seven and a half points to keep it close on Notre Dame. Why? Full stadium in L.A. Lincoln Riley's emptying the tank.

They got nothing to lose. They feel good after beating UCLA. And Notre Dame's only faced two ranked teams since September. Every single USC game is close. the Coliseum all be there will be lit they've got playmakers Notre Dame step up in class USC beat LSU

and they should have beaten Penn State and overtime at home to me it's 27 26 28 27 don't be shocked if Notre Dame gets bounced How about number two Texas For the first time in 13 years going to college station to face Texas A&M

What do you think Texas A&M would love to do. How about derail the greatest season for Texas Longhorn football in like since the Mac Brown days? That place is one of the hardest places to play in the country. Marcel Reed, the quarterback for Texas A&M, the freshman is good. He's getting better every time we see him. The Aggies D-line, exceptional. What was the team that beat Texas? Georgia, their D-line, exceptional. Oh, by the way, the Aggies, the Aggies have nothing to lose. Texas. all the pressure. Keep your eye on that one.

Oh, did I mention that Tennessee's at Vandy? Vandy beat Alabama at home. Did I mention Georgia Tech and Georgia? Georgia Tech's a good team. Beat Miami. So everybody freaks out. I can see all the SEC fans. I can't believe where we are ranked a week ago.

Just last weekend, Ole Miss, Bama, Colorado, and A&M all lost to unranked opponents. So it's not Thanksgiving, it's Trapsgiving. Watch out for Notre Dame, watch out for Texas, watch out for Georgia. People freak out. Don't. This is what's great.

For the first time in our lives, we get a 12-team playoff. I just had a coach yesterday tell me he thinks SMU is wildly underrated. Who knows? But my entire life, college football regular season was amazing. And then you'd watch a bunch of second-tier, cheesy bowl games. That stuff now. 12-team playoff. Can't wait.

Fired up. I mean, about the only game I don't see an upset is Ohio State hosting Michigan. I don't know how Michigan keeps it close. They're bad at quarterback. They're on the road. They don't have big plays. Ohio State will be more aggressive. Playmakers everywhere.

Better at quarterback. A lot of pressure on Ohio State. That one I don't see an upset. Everything else, I wouldn't be showing. So J-Mack, Jimmy Johnson later this hour, Joel Clat's top of the hour. So you basically got home and people said, get that thing off your face. Well, you know, listen, hey, you take some L's, you try some things. That's what happens.

Didn't take an L on Daniel Jones. Do you see where he ended up? Minnesota. That was your big, was that your guest? Let me talk about that. Yeah. Well, first of all, I'm happy for the kid. I mean, to go to the Giants is a mess.

So he goes to like a real team with real weapons and an awesome. offensive coach and owners that are non-meddling and a winning culture and he doesn't have to be a starter. So it's like, that's a nice gift for the kid. So let me ask you, what does this do for the Vikings next year? Do you think it's a given that Sam Darnold is not coming back and Daniel Jones will battle J.J. McCarthy for the starting job? That's what I think. I think it'll be J.J. McCarthy's team and you'll have Daniel Jones backing it up. And I think, I think this market, because it's such a bad college quarterback market. I mean, it's Cam, who's got issue.

You know, Cam and Shadour are like B plus prospects. They're not A's. J-L-Mil-Mil-Roll, people like, but he's a bit mechanical. He's Anthony Richardson, but people think a little bit better. So you don't have a great quarterback draft class, so that means Darnold. And because of Aaron Rogers sputtering and kind of turn off on the market. It's a lot that comes with Aaron Rogers.

I think Sam Darnold's going to have a very robust market. He could get paid by somebody. Oh, absolutely. He will get paid. The thing about McCarthy, I did read that there was like a second surgery he had to have somewhat recently. So it's not a given that J.J. McCarthy comes back and it's his team and he's ready to go, right? Sitting for two years, that could happen. Jordan loves that for, was it three?

Yeah. Yeah, so I wouldn't be shocked if Daniel Jones was starting. But I mean, right now, we went into the season. We didn't know before the season what Minnesota was. Well, now Sam Darnold's really good. J.J. McCarthy is very promising, and Daniel Jones will be the first or second best backup. This is what I've been talking about with Atlanta. The worst problem to have in the NFL, or the best problem, the best problem in the national football league is, you know, we have one too many quarterbacks.

Everybody should want that. Atlanta, Cousins Panics, that's not an issue. An issue is we don't have an elite corner, the Rams. And when you play a team with A.J. Brown, you play a team with great receivers, not much you can do. You just don't match up. So good day today. I'm going to release my pre- Thanksgiving Super Bowl bubble. Haven't done this in a month.

The teams I think can win. Usually, J-Mack, unlike your facial hair, it lasts. It is a harbinger of things to come. So we'll do that next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what?

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Giants Cowboys will see I think Packers hosting Miami's fascinating get to that in a bit Jimmy Johnson this hour too The NFL does a great job There is an illusion of parity

But because over the last decade There's been all these rule changes Which have all benefited offense The league has become very quarterback dependent So if you have a top 10 quarterback Unless your coach is clueless You're going to be a playoff team So if you go to look at the AFC

for example. And you're going to see a lot of teams that have really, really good quarterbacks. Mahomes. Oh, what do you know? Josh Allen, C.J. Stroud, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert. And then you've got a couple of guys in right now, Bo Nix, but he's got Super Bowl winning coach Sean Peyton. And oh, there's Russell Wilson. Well, he's won a Super Bowl, and so has Mike Tomlin. So you can see very clearly. You've got to have the coach or the quarterback or preferably both. If you go over to the NFC right now, outside of Seattle and, you know, you can see very clearly. Gino Smith, so Gino's not a star quarterback, and head coach we don't know about, but Detroit, okay, you got a Super Bowl quarterback, Jared Goff, Jalen Hertz, you got a Super Bowl quarterback,

Atlanta, you know, weakest division in football, but Kirk Cousins has been, you know, a top 10 quarterback now for a long time. In Minnesota, Green Bay and Washington. Now, the NFC is the weaker, but be honest about this, Sam Darnold and Kevin O'Connell. Kevin O'Connell looks like a top five offensive coach in this league. He may be a top five coach. Green Bay, Matt LaFleur, shock. Jordan Love, I think an elite quarterback. And then Dan Quinn's been to a Super Bowl as Washington's coach. So you start looking around. Now, I don't think Seattle's going to win this division. I think either Matt Stafford or Kyler Murray are going to figure out a way to win this division, and that would be the elite quarterback category. So now here's the great thing about the NFL.

You can go from very bad to very good instantly. It's the league of Hope. Jim Harbaugh, Chargers, totally changed the franchise. C.J. Stroud, D'Amico Ryan, changed the franchise. So the great thing about the NFL is the League of Hope. It's not like baseball or the NBA or hockey that it takes draft pick after draft pick, and you have to change the entire roster. I mean, Chargers basically brought in better coaches. Boom, they're good. They're not great. They're good. And so, and what's funny, though, there's an illusion of parity. And I do think week to week, anybody can beat anybody. But my Super Bowl bubble, which I do about four times a year, is very familiar. Inside the bubble, Josh Allen and the Bills, Mahomes and the Chiefs, Lamar and John Harbaugh-Rabins,

Philadelphia, great franchise, and I think we all think Detroit is loaded. I do think Pittsburgh, Green Bay, the Chargers in Minnesota are just on the periphery, all capable of making the playoffs and winning playoff games. But I think there's five teams, Super Bowl-level quarterbacks, quarterbacks that have been to Super Bowl, that can hoist a trophy. So again, it is the League of Hope, the parody thing, macro, big picture, 18-game season, longer a season is, the more clarity you get early. And I think right now, week 13, we know who's really, really capable of hoisting a trophy.

Here's J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's start with the breaking news that Daniel Jones cleared waivers and instantly was gobbled up by the Minnesota Vikings, according to Fox Sports NFL insider Jordan Schultz. I guess he'll have a chance to supplant Nick Mullins as the top backup in Minnesota, though Mullins has been in the system for a long time. You know, Sam Donald's having a great season. He was excellent last week against the Bears.

I think they had like seven yards per play, 450 yards of offense. Once again, an offensive coach saying we can't have enough quarterbacks in the room. Whereas defensive coaches, you know, Pete Carroll at the end is Gnows good enough. Well, no, he's not in a division with Matt Stafford, Kyler Murray, and San Francisco was rolling. So offensive coaches, Kevin O'Connell's like, I don't know how I'm going to sort it out, but I'll take another quarterback in the room. That's the difference, offensive and defensive coaches.

The offensive coaches are always like, you know, give me another one. We'll see what, we'll see how it works out. The defensive coaches tend to talk themselves into. We can win with a running game and defense. But in the world we live in now, where 55 quarterbacks play a year, I'll take Daniel Jones on my roster and figure out the rest. And it is interesting that now the starter and the backup in Minnesota for a smart coach used to be Jets and Giants quarterback.

Sam Darnel with the Jets. By the way, he looked terrible with the Jets. Sam Darnel. He had an awful career. A lot of people. And he looks like a totally different quarterback. So it's possible that Jones could turn things around.

At worst, he's like a trade chip, you know? Like maybe, again, I don't think Gino Smith is great, but I don't think he's like a lock to be the starter next year. Like Sam Darnold, would he be a possibility in Seattle? I don't know. I mean, I feel like it's almost like a lateral move. Well, wherever Sam Darnold goes, he won't be as productive as he is in Minnesota

because he's not going to get an offensive coach that smart. Do you think the teams that are going to be chasing Darnold realize that or no? Well, we said it with Gardner Minshu. We said, don't watch Gardner Minshu in Indy with that offensive coach. Go to the Raiders and be the same quarterback. You're not getting the same quarterback. How many times does he even bench the season? Yeah, I mean, so we predicted it.

We told you Gardner Minchu and Indy with Shane Steichen. That's the best version of it. Competing for a playoff spot down to week 17 or 18 and now they're out of the mix. Let's move on. Big baseball story last night. In the middle of a lot of sports stories, the Dodgers went out and made a splash move coming. The World Series champs addressed a big pitching hole on their roster by signing Blake Snell to a five-year $182 million deal.

I mean... Well, they're going to lose. Walker Bueller's going to be a free agent, so they'll probably let him walk. Okay. Jack Flaherty's another guy. He's probably going to walk. So they've got a prospect overseas they like a lot. So, you know, Yamamoto's...

their number one starter, Blake Snell, pencils, and is their number two probably? Does Otani pitch next year? There's a lot of talk. They want him to be a reliever. He doesn't want to be a reliever. It would be weird to see him come in the middle relief. But I think this is what the Dodgers do.

They don't fall in love. They fall in like. You know, they've had different pitch. You know, they had Manny Machado in town. They're like, that doesn't fit for us. They don't give everybody what they want. They smartly let guys walk. And I think they really like.

their staff right now, but they're not going to get in a bidding war for certain players, so they'll take Blake's now. So the big two questions out of this, number one, are they still in the mix for Juan Soto, the Yankee slugger? I mean, listen, it's not a salary cap thing. I guess they could just pay whatever they want, right? They're flushed with cash, won the World Series, the Otani Impact. Do you think they go for Soto or no?

Wouldn't you want to see Juan Soto, either with like the Yankees or the Dodgers? don't you want to see him or the Padres with a good team so he can be surrounded by other good teams? What I don't want is Juan Soto going to, he's not going to, going to like Baltimore or a Cincinnati where they pay so much for him. He got bad guys hitting in front of him. They're out of a playoff race.

I know everybody loves Baltimore, but they don't have the money that the Dodgers or the Mets, Steve Cohen have, or maybe like Atlanta or Houston has. I want to see star players go to Philadelphia, Houston, Atlanta, Dodgers, New York. so they can be surrounded. I don't want Joe Mower to the twins or Joey Botto to the Reds where you have a great player and they can't afford a bullpen.

Okay, so that leads to the second question. It's like, Colin, the imbalance. You just talked about parody in the league in the NFL or the illusion of parity. The imbalance in baseball is ridiculous. Why is it? Michael Jordan won six titles. Nobody talked about imbalance. Nobody cared.

Imbalance is overrated. Well, there's a salary cap in the NBA. College football ratings are up. We know the four teams that are going to play for. There's no salary cap you can sign all the five stars you want. But in baseball, if you look at the Dodgers payroll, it's going to be 10x, a third of the league. L.A. is a vibrant economy. So the bottom line.

Yankees got money, Braves got money, Astros got money, Mets got money, Dodgers got money. Padres have more money. Boston used to have it. They don't spend anymore. If there's five or six teams at the top of any league, this idea that parity is what moves. Any game that SMU plays in in the playoffs, is going to be lower ranked than the Georgia, Texas, Oregon, Ohio State Notre Dame game. Like, everything in sports, Serena dominated women's tennis for over 15 years.

So what? But I guess the question would be, do you believe that this, all the good players going to a handful of teams, some of the teams, basically being a farm system for the big boys, do you have any issue with that? No, it's been like that my whole life. People are just admitting it. I mean, is Pittsburgh ever really been viable since, like, the 70s? Pittsburgh has a good pitcher, the guy who, the rookie of the year, All-Star,

game starter, and it's like, where's he going to go in a year or two? When is he going to be on a real team? And if you're a Pittsburgh Pirates fan, like, not a lot to get excited about. Well, you can't afford. Now, I know it's on the owner, right? The owner has to want to spend. They're all billionaires. Oakland's owner was a billionaire, too. He decided that he came from family money. He was just going to use that as a way to make more money. So I have, I mean, Michael Jordan was considered a bad owner. He made like a zillion dollars on the Charlotte Bobcats or Charlotte Whatever they're called these days. It doesn't matter.

Playoff series with him at the helm. Yeah, I never lose sleep on the whole parody thing. It's like my whole life, Michigan, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Alabama, Oklahoma, they've all been great, and college football has endured the entire time. They don't go perfect. They lose games. Vanderbilt beat Alabama. It happens.

Vanderbilt, big game this weekend. Keep an eye on that one. Final story is the Lakers. So things did not go well into desert last night. Yes, Bradley Beale returned, and so did KD. but Austin Rees in the Lakers defense, who we talked about, I think, two days ago. They got shredded Phoenix with a 127-100 blowout. JJ Reddick not happy about the defensive effort afterward.

We may have to just look at some things defensively, particularly against really good offensive teams. They kind of got whatever they wanted. If you think about being disruptive, I think it starts there. teams are trying to disrupt what we do, just like we're trying to disrupt what other teams are doing. Yeah, in the NBA, there's too much talent. If you're not locked in defensively, you're going to get smoked.

A couple nights ago, we watched the Denver Nuggets, a great team at home get hammered by the New York Knicks. Just too many good players, if you're not ready to go, you're going to get, you're going to, you know, in baseball, you can play with a hangover. if I got my ace on the mound and nobody's focused, but the ace is throwing 99 and painting the corners, you can be competitive. In the NBA, you have got to be locked in, especially against teams like Phoenix, the Lakers, Denver, OKC, Minnesota, Knicks. Listen, this was a bad spot for the Lakers.

The sons were getting two of their stars back. The only thing I didn't like is LeBron and AD played 35 minutes apiece in a game they lost by 27. That is just unnecessary. Siri. And I will say some Laker fans are fired up. The Lakers in the third quarter have had struggles all season. Now, you know in the NFL, we talked adjustments at halftime, right? And the good coaches adjust and win the third quarter. Why are the Lakers always getting smoked in the third quarter? Last night it was 36. You know who the best third quarter coaches in the NBA are? Kerr is a legendary third quarter coach and Spolstra. Yeah. So, well, JJ Reddick's a rookie coach. He's got some good game plans, clearly, and then teams are seeing what they're doing.

and adjusting. If you go back to Matt LaFleur's first year coach in the Packers, he had excellent game plans. The first year, they were a very soft third quarter team. By the second year, Green Bay was a very good second quarter, second half team. By Matt LaFlewer's second year, you got the great game plans and good third quarters. So I think the difference between a pretty good coach and a good coach, with Andy Reed, you get everything. You start hot, you're good in the third quarter and you're great situationally. That's the Patens and our next guest, Jimmy Johnson, when you can do all three levels of coaching.

I think when you bring a first year coach in and you're thinking, wow, it doesn't look like Andy Reid. Well, the difference between being a coordinator and creating a game plan and being a head coach and having the voice in the locker room, pre-game halftime situationally timeout. Like it's a whole, like every other job in America that you get to you take an up grade, you're learning on the job. And so I think J.J. Reddick, this is what you think.

15 games into a rookie coach's career. I hope Brian Dable is listening to that nice little rant by you. I just don't know if he's a head coach, honestly. Great play caller, offensive mind. I don't know if he's at. All right. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

The Hurd-Lie News. These college football fans get crazy on the 12-team playoff. I was thinking about this this morning. Is that I think there'll be a bunch of ups and over the next two weeks. Ohio State is just built to beat Michigan. I think Michigan's going to really struggle. They don't have enough playmakers.

They're on the road. Ohio State has gotten thumped three years in a row by Michigan, so they are totally focused. And Michigan lost 15 guys to the NFL. Their two best players are defensive players. Graham, the defensive lineman. I think it's Wilson's the corner. Great players.

I think Ohio State is going to hammer them. And usually these games are close, but I just think it's a bad matchup for Michigan, and they're not playing well now. They were playing a little better earlier. But it's interesting about Ryan Day. So I was thinking about this this morning. Everybody thinks the pressures on Ryan Day to beat Michigan.

But what's fascinating about Ryan Day because they went all in, Ohio State went all in on this team. They spent $20 million on the NIL. I mean, they just went and bought players, and they brought in Chip Kelly, is let's say he beats Michigan and loses to Oregon in the Big Ten championship. They'll be furious. So he has to beat Michigan. and then Oregon that he already lost to. And by the way, if he does that,

and they play, let's say, Tennessee in their first game and lost, he'd get hammered. They'd want him out. So Ohio state's in a weird situation where they have a coach I like and a great program, but everybody's like, oh, the Michigan game. If he beats Michigan, he's going to get no credit for it. People are going to go, well, Michigan's bad this year. Harbaugh's not there.

They don't have a quarterback. J.J. McCarthy's gone. In the following week, if he beats Michigan by 30 and loses to Oregon, he's on the hot seat. Well, you can't beat Oregon? We got five-star guys. They've got three-and-four-star guys. And if he beats Michigan and Oregon and then lose his first round,

so every single game for Ohio, I don't think there's another coach that faces that pressure. I mean, Kailin DeBore, people are upset, but everybody knows he's a great coach. You know what I mean? And Jalen Milro gets a lot of the heat. You know, Sark would get heat, but I think Texas has been so dry and so bad for so long.

They appreciate Sarks recruiting. his personality. You know, Texas feels like they're back. But the Ohio State situation is weird. They're going to beat Michigan. But if they lost seven days later to Oregon, I mean, they would be at his throat. Like they're the only team going into this playoff.

I mean, Kirby Smart can lose games. Nobody wants to fire him. Everybody loves the Tennessee coach. The Notre Dame young coach, they're happy to be here. They're not going to think. Nobody's talking about getting fired. Ohio State, man, when you lose to Michigan three years in a row, Your margin for error at Ohio State is tiny.

They got a... I mean, the only thing Ryan Day will get a pass on is they get to the national championship and they lose to Texas. And if it's a... You know, I mean, that would be just like 25 NFL guys. Then it's just ridiculous to criticize him. Like, that game's going to... That's 3430 either way. It could be a call, a fumble, circumstantial play.

Other than that, Ryan Day is going to get heat. Michigan's just a beginning. That's the first stop on the trip. Here was Ryan Day this week on the pressure to face Michigan. We felt what it's like to not win this game. It is bad. It's one of the worst things that's happened to me in my life, quite honestly. I've been losing my father and a few other things.

It's quite honestly for my family, the worst thing that's happened. So we can never have that happen again, ever. You can see the tension with Ryan Day. Hall of Fame are next. Jimmy Johnson, live in L.A. It's the herd. live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what?

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Fox Sports NFL Analyst, the two-time Super Bowl champ, national, champ, one of the few college coaches that worked at the NFL level. And I've always said, I don't get why the Hall of Fame doesn't include both. Basketball does. All right, let's start with this. You were known as, you loved personnel and you were great at it. You created, I mean, New York Giants didn't do trades before you made one. And so you are viewed as sort of, Sean Payton's got some of this too.

You like personnel. You're good at it. Oh, I spent my time when personnel, you know, around, you know, even during the season, you know, looking at free agents and, you know, even one. watching college football. And you like that? I love watching football. And so, you know, I was always on top of the game as far as college football. And on top of that, when I first went into the league, I'd been in a lot of those top players' homes. I knew their families. And so it gave me an advantage in drafting players. That's kind of what Jim Harbaugh has for the next few years. Exactly right.

Okay. So let's talk about Dallas. What would you do this offseason? There's some tough choices here. Well, first of all, they're so financially strapped, you know, with some of these contracts. contracts. First of all, I would have never given Prescott a new contract. I'd let him play it out. Yeah. You know, because he's the highest paid player in the league. He's not the best player in the league. Right. And he wasn't going to go anywhere. If he had gone to the Super Bowl with him, hey, he wasn't going to go anywhere. Pay him whatever. You know, and if he, you know, struggled in the playoffs, then you negotiate. Or if he got hurt, you saved money. Yeah. But they're so financially strapped right now. I don't know what they do.

I don't know if, you know, they talk about, you know, change coaching. Well, I don't know if changing coaching is going to, you know, help them. Because Mike McCarthy is a good football coach. And so I don't know that a new coach coming in can solve the problem. Would you consider moving, say, a Micah getting a second first round pick and trying to get some inexpensive star players? You know, Parsons is such a great, great player. it would have to be a boatload of picks to trade him.

I wouldn't want to get rid of him. He is their whole defense. And he is a game changer. Al Davis told me one time, I was talking about players, and he said, hey, that particular player, the one I was talking about, Michael Irvin, wins games for you. You don't want to get rid of a player that wins games for you. Good point.

This next question is funny. You coached the hurricanes and the dolphins. So Tua, not a very, Hawaiian kid is going up to Green Bay. You told me something funny yesterday. I hope you remember it. I asked you, Jimmy, when you were at Miami and had to play Boston College, how did you prepare your team? And you said to me, I got warmer clothes.

I hated cold weather. And, you know, both the University of Miami and with the Miami Dolphins, I hated going into the cold weather. And, you know, I think the dolphins are in a situation. right now with their schedule, if they could beat Green Bay, they had to have an outside chance at a playoff. They have to win. But they have to win.

They have to beat Green Bay, and they're not going to beat Green Bay. You know, a short week against a good football team in 20-degree weather, I don't think that's going to happen. Yeah, I agree with you. I want to talk about Cam Ward. Place for Miami, you've seen him. Again, you're a personnel guy. He's a lot of off-platform stuff.

Big arm. Big arm. Really big arm. Off platform, a lot of backyard football. I think he's too good not to draft if you need a quarterback, right? Oh, I think he's top two or three picks. I think Sanders, Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter, probably the best player in football.

Yeah. But outside of Travis Hunter, as far as quarterbacks, you've got Sanders and you got Cam Ward. So what would you do knowing he likes to move? He likes to get out of the off script. How would you look at that draft? Colin, it's Caleb Williams. You know, the same thing. You've got to reel him in.

You've got to say, hey, you take your check down. You know, he makes some great plays by being off-platform and running around. He makes some great plays, but he also turns the ball over doing that. You know, he's got a great arm. He may have the best arm in all of football as far as collegiate football. He can make the plays. He can make the right decision. but as far as an offensive coach, you've got to reel him in

and keep him from making all those scrambles trying to make the great play. Just take what's there. Do you worry at all? You know, Detroit's rolling over people. That's like a college basketball team. Like you think to yourself, boy, they get to March Madness. They don't have close games. But I don't think that plays in football.

I think if you're good, you're good. Your great teams rolled over a lot of people. Maybe not the Eagles every week, but good teams. Do you worry, though, when the opposite is evident. Kansas City only plays close games. I think there's two things there. First of all, those close games, I actually think, helps their football team and that it gives them confidence that they can win the close game.

They can win at the end. When you got Patrick Mahomes and it's a one-score game, you got a shot, you know, right there. But by the same token, I think it's also an indication that you're not quite as good as what you used to be. When you've got a Detroit that's rolling over teams, they are a physical, physical football team. It's hard to beat a physical football team. And so I think with Kansas City, it gives them confidence about winning those close games. But by the same token, it's an indicator they may not be quite as good as what some of the opponents that are going to face in the playoffs. Yeah, I don't think defensively they are as good.

Not as good as what they did. Right. Brought them right back down. A couple of different drives. Exactly right. And that's an indicator. When you get to the playoffs against the really good teams, you may be vulnerable. Okay, so I want to ask you about the 49ers. I said, it's one thing if everybody in the building, when you were in Dallas, everybody knew it was a rebuild.

You needed players. I mean, you probably didn't have to talk people into that trade. Maybe Jerry Jones you did, but your coaches knew we moved Herschel against seven dudes. What's hard, Jimmy, is when everybody in the building isn't shun. sure you're supposed to rebuild. So if you go look at the last 12 games with the Niners, they're 5 and 7, they're paying like eight different guys, their

best players, Trent Williams, George Kittle, Debo, are hurt a lot. And my take is, listen, I look at Detroit and Philly and Kansas City and Buffalo. San Francisco doesn't look like that. Right. I think they look and think inches. The last five times, Jimmy, they played

the Chiefs, they're 0 and 5 and lost by blowout four times. Right. I think they need a big reboot. Is it hard because they're good? They don't feel special to me. They don't seem special because they've got their best players injured, you know, and they're not able to go over and roll over teams the way they did before and dominate teams because they were physical.

They've had, you know, Green Law has been hurt. You know, almost all their top players have been hurt at one time or another. Oh, there's two guys missing every week. Yeah, and that adds up. And on top of that, once these players get older and get more injuries, the next year they're going to, you know, the percentage of them being injured is going to go up. Each year, it's more and more and more. A guy is not going to get injured, you know, and be injured for two or three years

and all of a sudden become healthy, you know. And so it adds up. And so that tells me that something's got to change. Yeah. I want to end with this. The rookie quarterbacks. You got Bowenicks. You got Caleb.

You got Jaden Daniels. I think Pennix and J.J. McCarthy could be good. Drake May has shown me something. Is there one of them you look at and you really like? I like Jaden Daniels. And he hasn't played as well the last few weeks. He may be hurt. He may be banged up a little bit and teams are starting to play him a little bit better.

They're scheming a little bit better on defense. but I like him a lot maybe like him more than any of the rest of them as far as Caleb William's we haven't seen all the things that he can do I mean he was the guy coming out of college I think with a little bit better coaching and he didn't have it his first few weeks

or the first part of the season a little bit better coaching than I think that he can show that too I love him and of course with Bo Nix he's got Sean Peyton Sean does a great job with You know Sean pretty well Yeah Sean

You know Sean does a great job With young quarterbacks And I think the two of them have meshed Yeah You know it's funny As you went through the Troy Aikman years You knew very quickly You're a personnel guy

You knew he was great But when you're losing early With these young quarterbacks Like Jaden's hit a plateau Caleb is losing Now Bo Nix is fortunate Is it hard When you're trying to build a young

quarterback's confidence and they're losing every weekend. I remember my second year with Dallas. I tried to get Troy into the Pro Bowl and he didn't make it. He injured his shoulder before one of our last games. We would have made the playoffs had he not injured his shoulder. And I'm sitting on the practice field. I said, I said, Troy, I said, guy, I'm sorry you didn't make the Pro Bowl. And he said, coach, don't worry about me.

He said, you keep bringing in talent around me. I'll go to plenty of Pro Bowls. And so he had that confidence. And he knew that we were a young team and we were building. And he knew eventually we would start winning a bunch of games. And you did. Brought in some good players. By the week 13, you know, Jimmy yesterday, when I asked him, I said,

did you like coaching in cold weather games? He said, Colin, I was a worse coach because I was so worried about how cold I was. I was trying to stay warm. The great Jimmy Johnson, of course, he is going to be with the crew tomorrow at 4 for the Giants and the Cowboys. Every week, Fox NFL Sunday, number one pregame show for about 30 years running. We lose count. There's so many Emmys stacked in this building, and you're a huge part of it, Coach. Thanks for coming on today.

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