The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - 49ers need to win tonight

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

More on Bill Belichick becoming the HC at UNC and the NFL teams that interested him  Colin takes a look at UNC's schedule for next year Thoughts on the Rams-Niners game tonight   Guest: Greg CosellSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So Mark Davis has been the owner of the Raiders, of course, inheriting the franchise from his father who passed away, Al Davis, the pioneer, the visionary, at least for most of his career. And so Mark Davis is paying a lot of different coaches. he said yesterday, he's very disappointed with the Raiders season. The only surprise would have been if they won because they have a handful of great players like Max Crosby at Brock Bowers.

So he basically, the coach and the GM, my friend Tom Telesco, it's a year-to-year job. I just think it's the best coach division in football. Harbaugh, Peyton, Reed are all going to be Hall of Fame coaches. and Antonio Pierce is a first-time coach. He's just not that yet. Also, they had Gardner Minshu. So here's, right now, the two worst teams in the league are the two and 11 Raiders and the

two-and-11 Giants. If you look at their schedule, the Raiders, because they play so hard, they're one and two right now in the current draft order. But if you look at the Raiders' schedule, they get the Falcons, Chargers, Jaguars at home. I think they win one of those games. I think they could beat the Saints in New Orleans. But I think the Raiders will win a game.

game if you look at their schedule. The Giants will not. They'll get boat raced by the Ravens, beat in Atlanta, beat by the Colts, and even if the Eagles rest starters, they'll get hammered by Philadelphia. It's not close. So that means the Giants will have the worst record, get the number one pick,

and they will take the more polished Shadour Sanders with the number one pick. My guess is the Raiders will take Cam Ward number two. Although my feeling is Jalen Milro in that building has some support. now Sam Darnold is also available probably for about 35 million.

Russell Wilson could be available. I'm not sure the Steelers are going all in on him. They may, I'm not sure of it. They're not even going to talk about that until the season's over. So if you look at the future of the Raiders when you hear that story today about Mark Davis, I don't, I mean, Antonio Pierce to me is overwhelmed compared to the three coaches in his division. But they've got to get the quarterback right. and I think if you get the second best quarterback in this draft,

I think Cam Ward's a very interesting player. He's got a big arm, and he's dynamic. Quinn Ewers is not dynamic. Shadour Sanders doesn't have his escapeability or his arm. So you may end up with the best quarterback. I don't think either of these quarterbacks. Shoulder, Sanders, or Cam Ward are A-listers. I think they're more B-to-B-B-plus prospects,

but we've seen in recent times the number two quarterback can be better than the number one quarterback. And so I think Cam Ward in Vegas feels like, eventually in the not too distant future, the play there. But Mark Davis, again, saying he's very disappointed. Well, what'd you expect? With that, 45 years, NFL films, nobody's more objective. Greg Kosell joins us.

The value of the running back nine months ago, the media lamenting, running backs lamenting, their future, their economic future, and here we watch Detroit and Green Bay and Baltimore and Washington. these power running teams are now front and center. Do you think there's a reason for it schematically? I do. I think there's a number of reasons. And maybe we don't know the exact why all these teams.

And Philly, obviously, is probably the number one example. They leave the league in rushing. But what you're seeing more of in the league are a couple of things. In no particular order, Colin. You're seeing a lot more 12 personnel. Offences are playing with more multiple tight ends. two, sometimes three tight ends. You're seeing issues with offensive lines in past protection. That's been a major issue throughout the league for a lot of teams. So if you have issues in

past protection, you try to run the football and alleviate that problem. I would say there's been a far more too high safety structure coverages in the league. That's been a trend over the last couple of years where there's more two high safeties as opposed to a safety sitting in the box. so the numbers tend to favor the run game. And I would say another thing is more and more teams are playing what we call big nickel, playing with three safeties as sort of a base defense as opposed to a third linebacker. So you're seeing smaller players on the field. So the run game has become more and more prevalent.

But overall, the pass protection thing really stands out to me because I remember years ago, I had a conversation with John Gruden, and one of the first things he said to me was, you don't have a pass game if you can't protect. And protection has been a big issue in the league. Yeah, we're getting more athletic defensive end and pass rushers and less guys on the edge that can block them. Okay, so the Eagles have clearly, since the buy, became more of a run-first team, fewer attempts for Jalen Hertz.

It may not make A.J. Brown happy, but it makes them a better team. So the game of the week, arguably, is Steelers and Eagles. So the Steelers, they see a lot of Lamar Jackson. So Jalen Hertz movement is not going to intimidate them or flummox them. I think Pittsburgh sort of matches up, even though I do believe Philadelphia's roster is arguably the best in the league. What are you expecting with the Eagle Steelers matchup? You know, it's funny you say that the Steelers overall have played the run very well. They have really good players up front, and the numbers, their run defense statistics are very good.

But believe it or not, they don't play the run as well from their nickel defense as they do from their base defense. So I'm very curious to see if the Eagles in this game, as they did a week ago, play a lot out of 11 personnel with three wide receivers. Keeping in mind also that Dallas Goddard is out, so they may want to be in 11 personnel anyway. But to me, that's a critical part of this matchup. And there's one player on the Steeler defense who I think is really, really important. and it's Deshawn Elliott. He is a really smart, savvy player. Not a well-known player.

He's been around the league, but he is really aware, really smart, understands offensive line play, understands formations. He's a critical piece of that Steelers defense in the run game. So last week, I watched the Rams dissect the Bill's defense. It looked like a seven-on-seven drill.

But there was also something about the Bill's offense. that was a bit concerning. Earlier this year, I said, I love Josh Allen to be Superman, but I like him to go into the phone booth and do it once or twice a game. I don't want him to show up after the anthem in the Cape. And I thought they're losing a little bit of the balance.

They're becoming a little more, Hey, Josh, save us. This is the bills I don't love. Is the film saying that? Well, I think last week's game was probably a little bit of anathimate to what they want to be. I think they felt early on in that game that the opposing offense, the Rams offense, was really moving the ball well, and the game was snowballing early. And they did try to run and couldn't, and I think they felt that they had to keep pace in a high-scoring contest.

And in their mind, the way to keep pace is to put the ball in Josh Allen's hands, arguably the most dynamic individual player in the league. So, you know, I think that particular game, they felt that's how they have to play. I don't think they're changing their philosophy. They still play more with six offensive linemen, more snaps with six offensive linemen far and away than any team in the league. We'll see how it turns out this week, because they're in Detroit. And one of the things that stood out with their defense a week ago, they couldn't really generate any pressure with a four-man pass rush. And their zone coverages were eaten up by McVeigh.

And keep in mind, you know this, Colin. Ben Johnson does as good a job as any offensive coordinator in the league versus zone with his spacing, his route spacing, his understanding of how to put zone defenders in conflict. So we'll see how this week plays out. So an interesting matchup, and I got to give J. Mack and you credit, because I asked both of you before this season, what's a team that's better than people think? and you said the Seahawks, and J.MAC said the Seahawks. And you both said, like their roster, let's see Mike McDonald.

Well, the Ravens defense has cratered without Mike McDonald, and the Seahawks defense, now that it's healthy with McDonald, is outstanding. So Green Bay become a bit more of a power run team against Seattle this weekend. I'm fascinated to watch that. What do you expect? Well, the Seahawks defense, Vanilla is not the right way. word, but they're not a high percentage blitz defense, but they have a really good defensive line rotation, and they made changes at linebacker, oh, three, four weeks ago when they traded for

Ernest Jones, and they put the rookie knight in who replaced Terrell Dotson, who they released, and they're much, much better at the linebacker position. And also, you know, it's funny, I mentioned Big Nickel a few minutes ago talking about the run game. Since they got the safety Jenkins back from injured reserve, they've gone to a lot of Big Nickel playing three safeties. And that has really helped them. And Julian Love, one of their safeties, he is one of the best safeties in the league, and he's not talked about enough. So they have really good people, and that D-line rotation is really, really impressive. All right.

So I've got to get Baker-Mayfield credit. Now, I've always like Jason Light the GM. I've always thought they draft well. Baker, you know, he and Darnold, Donald's bigger, more athletic, and Baker can have rough quarters, but when you look at Tampa, is it a Baker story or a roster story? What has them in first place?

You could argue again. I guess that's our theme for the day. If I told you they were a top eight rushing team in the NFL, were you aware of that? They've rushed for over 150 yards, I think, in six or seven games this year, including last week. They've become incredibly multiple with their run game.

They play two backs, what we call the pony package. They'll play Irving and White. They'll play White and Tucker. They'll play Irving and Tucker. They'll play with the pony package quite a bit, and they're really multiple with how they attack in the run game. And when you have Irving and White on the field, they're both really good receivers as well.

So Baker's playing well. There's no question about it. But I think they have multiple ways in which to attack defenses, and their run game has become a big factor. And by the way, they're really a really snapshot of what I was talking about. Their O-line, much better run-blocking than they are in past protection. Okay, so I'm interested for this. The other day on the Internet, I saw somebody posted it.

I apologize for not remembering what it was. But they put Russell Wilson's stats last year in Denver up against Bo-Nick stats this year in Denver, and they were kind of similar, very similar. Yet I feel differently about Bo Nix than Russell Wilson, though the numbers are the same. And the offensive personnel is mostly the same. And the coach, Peyton's the same. Bo Nix, Russell Wilson, what's Denver doing offensively that feels different to me? Because I feel they're more explosive.

And they are. The numbers are the numbers, but it looks different because it is different. One thing about Bo Nix, which I'm not sure many of us expected, Colin, is he is very good throwing the ball in the middle of the field between the numbers at the intermediate level. And I think there were questions about whether he could do that at the NFL level. But he's done a really, really good job with that. So in terms of the timing and structure of their offense, the rhythm of it and the past game, it just is better than it was a year ago. And so numbers are, they're just a cumulative thing over time. But the way you achieve those numbers is more important.

It's the process of achieving those numbers. And the process in Denver, the way their offense looks and plays, is much more consistent with Bo Nix than it was a year ago with Russell Wilson. Before we get to the Niners to end this, I want to talk about the Rams. I've said this. You could make an argument. Take out maybe the lions, maybe. that if you said head coach, quarterback, two receivers running back,

the Rams were in a very rarefied air. Kyron Williams, Puka, Cooper, McVeigh, Stafford. You and I both love Stafford. He is so much fun to watch. So they play a beat-up Niners team tonight. But my takeaway is, are the Rams a year away with their offensive line and another draft class? or when you watch them beat Buffalo, do you believe like that's who they are?

They can beat anybody. Well, I think they can beat anybody, whether they do or not, I guess that remains to be seen. But when Stafford can be protected, and of course the bills did not generate much pass rush, so you have to be concerned when they play teams that can really rush the quarterback because I think their O line is still a bit of a work in progress. But in terms of the schematics of their offense, I think it's really, really, really difficult to defend. I mean, it's play action under center, it's motion, it's shifting, it's reduced splits, receivers get free access, they're really good attacking zone coverage

with their spacing. Defensively, they have a very young D-line, but those guys are dynamic and athletic, and a few of them could end up being special. And they made a major change about a month or so ago with what they do on defense with their personnel. So, you know, I think it's a team that could theoretically beat anybody, but you've been a very much. got to protect Stafford. When he's protected, there may be no one who throws a prettier ball than Matthew Stafford. Okay, Brock Purdy is having to play without Christian McCaffrey. Look pretty good against the Bears. Your thoughts about that?

Yeah, I thought that last week. That was a clinic by Kyle Shanahan. He knew exactly what he was going to get from the Bears' defense. They played a ton of his own coverage. He attacked it beautifully. Purdy was able to throw the ball to his primary quite a bit. They got the screen game involved, which is basically a no-read throw. and it just looked on tape in particular. It looked good on TV, too, but in tape, it just looked like a clinic. And there was, you know, one play early on in the game that really stood out to me,

and that's going to be our play of the week. And we can get to that right now because it's so symptomatic and emblematic of what they did. And this was a 33-yard completion to Kittle relatively early in the game. And you'll see he catches it, and there's room, there's space for him. And Kittle was very involved last week in their office. fence and I'm sure that was by design. So as we look to break this down, what you're going to see here is Kittle, who's on the left side of the formation to start, he's going to shift to the other side of the formation. And so what that does is it makes it what we call a three-by-one

set with three receivers to the wide side of the field and a single receiver to the boundary. Now the coverage to the three-receiver side is going to be cover two. Okay, so they're going to attack this cover two. Again, it looked like Kyle knew exactly what he was going to get through much of this game. He's going to run Connolly and Pierceaw on two vertical routes. They're the outside receivers. That attacks the cover two safety. And then Kittles going to run an outcut underneath those two verticals. And then you're going to have the back garendo work through the line into the flat to the same side. So four receivers to the same side, what we call four strong, very difficult in zone coverage to defend. So again, just as we walk through it, you get the

two verticals. That forces that safety, the half-field safety, to have to retreat. Now you're going to get the hook defender underneath. He's going to expand. He doesn't really need to, but he does for a couple of reasons. One, he has eyes on Garando, who's going to get into the flat. But the main reason he's going to expand has to do with what Brock Purdy does here. Purdy does a great job right here of pumping as if he's going to throw to the outside void to Connolly. And that gets that hook defender to really expand and he shouldn't. Because now what you get is you get kiddle in that void in the coverage. And this was beautifully set up.

As I said, four strong, very, very hard to defend in zone coverage. You just don't have enough bodies. And this was very reflective and representative of what Kyle Shanahan did. against the bears last week as we see Kiddle here running his route. And when you get the ball to Kiddle and he has room to run, you know what that's like, Colin. He's a very difficult guy to tackle. 45 years, NFL films.

Greg Cocelloas. Good seeing you, my man. Thanks, Colin. Appreciate it, as always. You bet. Dan Lannning, Oregon Ducks coach, about 45 minutes away. Jordan Schultz stopped by earlier. So we are moving on a Thursday.

Rams go to Santa Clara. San Francisco's. dinged up. Bosa, game time decision. Trent Williams, great left tackle, Hall of Fame first ballot guy. He's out. They're not the same team without Christian McCaffrey and Trent Williams. Hard game to wrap your brain around because the Rams played a flawless football game against Buffalo, a very emotional game, a tough team in Buffalo. So I don't know what we're getting tonight. I'm interested to watch it. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHard Radio app.

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Those, to me, are the two best jobs because of Caleb Williams and Trevor Lawrence. Those are the two best jobs, my opinion. Chicago, dysfunction upstairs, Carolina, just historically dysfunctional everywhere. and Jordan Schultz talked about why Bill chose college over the NFL. As the market started to materialize or lack thereof, it became clear to Bill that I need to take the most secure position I can right now, bring my staff, whether it's Michael Lombardi, maybe it's Matt Patricia, Joe Judge, because NFL teams weren't going for that.

They didn't want to bring in Matt Patricia. They didn't want to bring in Josh McDaniels. So all due respect to Bill, the greatest coach, of all time at 72, 73 years old, the market was simply not what he thought it would be. And Atlanta was the only team to seriously consider him last year. This is Bill Belichick showing up this morning, very nicely dressed, it's a college campus. It's a new experience. I mean, let's be honest. It's going to be a fun story. I think the coaching and the personnel will not be the issue. It will be a fit on a college campus. There's a lot of coaches in that athletic.

department as a lot of maintenance and a lot of needy second-tier coaches and there'll be budgets that will be clipped because they're pouring money into the football program and there'll be animosity and there's so much nonsense that an athletic director has to deal with but they're going to start pulling money they won't pull it away from basketball but the lacrosse budget may get slashed and it'll create animosity in the building bellichick doesn't care and let's be honest football and men's basketball, drive all the money in college sports. That's where the money's raised. So I'm interested in that kind of weird part of the business,

but the coaching part, we showed the schedule earlier. North Carolina's schedule, I mean, this is not the AEC, or this is not the SEC. This is not the Big Ten. They got a tough home game against Clemson and Syracuse on the road, but, I mean, it is that is a layup as a college schedule. Well, you could never underestimate a trip to Berserkley. That trip to Cal will be difficult.

Cal is feisty this year. You know, Berkeley. Well, I know it, yeah, berserkly, yeah, sure. It's a scene there. I mean, that has 10 and 2 written all over it. If he hits the portal hard, and a lot of people are making the meme about, listen, have you seen Bill Belichick's new girlfriend? He knows how to recruit college talent. He's not going to have any problems in the portal, people. They open with TCU, just like Dion Sanders.

That's right. Open with TCU. I'm excited. I can't wait. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

All right, we're hitting this game every day because it's the game of the week. Eagles, Steelers, battle of two of the, what, five, six best teams in the NFL. Zekwon Parkley has had a huge impact on the Eagles this season. And Mike Tomlin believes it was very. The move of the NFL offseason. Saquan Barkley has got to be the most significant acquisition in the NFL in 2024. That's what the tape looks like. He's been dominant, eye-opening at times, obviously.

Highlight, real caliber plays, long runs, touchdowns, etc. It starts there for us. If you don't minimize him in some way, you're not even going to position yourself to have a chance to be successful. Yeah, I mean, listen, Philadelphia is just... Can I challenge the Saquan Berkeley being the move of the offseason? So it was an awesome move. It was a great investment. It's paying off.

Sam Darnold is on a one-year $10 million deal. Sequin got way more than that. Sam Darnold is grading out as one of the best 10 quarterbacks in the league this season. Oh, yeah. No, I think Darnold... Wasn't he a better deal than Sequins? I think they're both great. But I think...

Listen, Eagles were 10. 10 in one last year without Seiquan to start, okay? No, he is, I think they're both great. I think the Eagles would have been fine without Sequin. Yeah. The Vikings would be a bit of a mess. They would not be in, anywhere. Without Darnold, because J.J. McCarthy's injury.

So Sam's been tremendous, and you know I like Sam. I know. That's why I was giving a little props, because I've been a little harsh on Sam, saying there's no market for him. You would love Sam if you met him. He is like the ultimate. I did meet him at the Super Bowl in Arizona outside of a party. Nice guy.

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Yeah. Had any problems with you. I'll hear about it. Who has problems with me? Nobody. Come on. Next up is the probably second best game of the weekend. Although this is a great weekend for NFL action folks.

Bill's Lions is going to be a barn burner. Josh Allen is coming off that ridiculous six touchdown performance against the Rams. He, you know, he's a runaway MVP at this point. I don't want to hear. hear anybody else. Dan Campbell is the favorite to win coach of the year. And here's Dan Campbell praising Josh Allen's awesome season. He's got all these attributes, physical attributes, but then it's what he's got inside of him, man. He's the ultimate competitor, man. That's what separates him from a lot of guys. Man, he is fearless. And it's why those guys, you know,

they play the way they do for him, because he just won't give it up. He's not going to give it up. and he's going to do whatever it takes to get the next first down or get the touchdown. And when they need him in crunch time, he's going to show up. And he just won't give up, you know. And I think that's what makes him, really what makes him who he is, his competitiveness. Well, I think his arm's size and running ability make him. But he is, you know, we are, ever think about this in sports, how lucky we are? You and I overwhelmingly get to talk football.

We don't have to talk about Zion's weight or John Morant's family stuff. Not this month. The NFL, all their star quarterbacks. I mean, Kyler is, you know, but you talk to the top five or six or seven guys. They're all unbelievably competitive, awesome guys in their prime. NFL, maybe it's just the football culture in America. I mean, Aaron's old school and can be prickly, but even he's entertaining. We are so lucky to have this group of quarter.

I don't think there's ever been this many great quarterbacks and this. I never felt in my life there were like seven, because I think Stafford and Allen Sunday may have been the quarterback showpiece of the season. I thought it was like, you were watching First Ballot Hall of Fame guys both really lean into their art. Is this game going to make the Blazance Five? I am strongly considering this game. Okay. Because it's going to be in headlines. You want a number?

Can I give you just to wet your beak just a little bit? So Josh Allen goes from indoors at SoFi to indoors in Detroit. Do you want to know what is against the spread record is indoors in his career? What? 9, 2 and 1. Yeah. Josh Allen, indoor. No elements outside.

Also, I like. I like... Wait, hold on, hold on. Dalton Kincave, back at practice. He's a go. Yeah. Keon Coleman, back at practice. He's a go.

Yep. I don't want to say they were resting guys against the Rams. for this game, but they are going to have their entire arsenal. I saw a report that Milano, the linebacker, is finally healthy again. No, it's like they are gearing up. Buffalo is the side. It's going to be one of the best

games of the season. I got cousins going to. Is this like a last team with the ball wins? I think it is. Yeah. It's going to be a showcase. Great weekend of football. Final story, Colin, is not great news. Your guy, Justin Herbert, I know he's a bionic superhuman guy, but I mean, dude, left ankle injured against the Chiefs, missed practice yesterday.

Questionable tag. Herbert discussed the ankle injury. Here he goes. I would say that this one is probably not as severe. It's definitely, you know, painful enough to be able to miss a practice. But I felt like I've been able to move around a little bit better this week than I did, you know, after Carolina where I was put into a boot and had difficulty walking. I know we talk a lot about Tua and the concussions. I'm just saying, you look at Justin Herbert's history.

He's been banged up a lot. No. I don't know if that's because the offensive line stinks. Well, it's funny. They finally have the offensive tackles right, and the interior O line is hit and miss. You know, they just can't quite get it right. But thankfully, they drafted Joe Alt and not a receiver, so they have their tackles for the foreseeable future.

Those are really good. That may be the best tackle pairing. Detroit's got a great tackle pairing. It's one of the better tackle pairings in the league. You know who has the worst tackles in the division is the Chiefs? Yeah. Like, it's very strange. Because Garrett Bulls for Denver's good, and Colton Miller, the left tackle for the Raiders is very good.

Yeah, the Chiefs are in trouble. What are you doing with this Chargers' Bucks game? Bucks come out here to SoFi. Here's what I don't like. Baker could be goaded into mistakes. He has bad quarters, and the Chargers goad you into mistakes. Chargers run defense very good. I think it's a low-scoring game.

I'd probably take the points. But Baker, he's going to come out to L.A., and he's going to be slinging it, and I just worry that he makes the mistake. In a couple of his wins, he has not played well for four quarters. He's had a rough month. I don't know if he's dinged up or what have you, but his Chargers team has problems getting separation,

but look at that Bucks injury report before you fire on this game. They got a lot of Winfields out. And he's great in the back end. I just don't know if they can take advantage with McCona. Not 100%. Against Kansas City, they found guys. I don't know how they did that. I know.

That was just a great. And Disley got hurt. He's out. It looks like he's a no-go this week. Oh, boy. I mean, it's just. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.

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after a win over Buffalo in which they played perfectly. So if San Francisco loses tonight, my takeaway is the story tomorrow for the media will be, it's the Niners obituary. I wrote it three weeks ago. I think this team has three or four big problems. It's an old, expensive, brittle roster. both lines need rebuilding, and I think Brock Purdy's going to get overpaid. I think he's good.

I don't think he's special, and he's going to get paid like Dallas does with Dak as a special quarterback. The Rams future, winner-lose tonight, is very bright. They have arguably the best young coach in the league. Matt Stafford may be 36, but he can play with anybody. They have tremendous young skill people and a superstar 23-year-old wide receiver, and their defensive line is stacked and young. and economical. So I think if the Rams win or lose, their future's bright.

I don't think they're a Super Bowl winning team, but I do think they're a team that could win this division and win a playoff game. It's all about keeping Stafford upright. And McVeigh, he's had battles for years with Shanahan in this roster and talked about tonight. They know us, we know them. There's some different things, you know, on a positive,

guys establish some good momentum, some things that we can certainly learn from. and it's, you know, these are the opportunities that you love in the NFL. Humility is only a week away. They have excellent coaches, excellent personnel, really good schemes. And so no matter what's really happened in terms of the trajectory of the injuries, they're going to be ready to go, and we're going to do our best to get our guys ready to roll, and it's going to be a great challenge and opportunity.

Yeah, and here's what worries me. The Rams last year, and it was kind of a rebuild year, went to Baltimore, and Baltimore clobbered the Dolphins. the Lions, the Niners, and the Rams took them to overtime. So that told me they needed just one more draft class, and they hit on their first two or three picks, big time, a safety, a defensive end, you know, pass rushers, and they hit, for the second year in a row,

they hit on all their top defensive picks. So the Rams are a real team. I don't know if their offensive line stacks up in pass protection like the Eagles does or the Lions does. I just don't think it does. But when they lose, they lose close. San Francisco has been blown out by the Bills, Chiefs, and Packers. So I think the future, like I said this yesterday,

the future for the New York Giants, I think, is brighter than the Jets. They're both bad. The Niners and the Rams are both pretty good. I think the future is better for the Rams. Now, Bill Belichick has been named the head coach. We had video just about 10 minutes ago at North Carolina as he arrived with a smile on his face. and it's interesting because he is going to make, it is a pro model, make no doubt about it, he's on a college campus, it is a pro model.

And he has hired Mike Lombardi, who I know a little bit, as his general manager. And I mean, if you listen to this, they're not being around the bush here. And this is the future of college football hiring former GMs in the NFL and personnel guys to run the cap and run the recruiting. and here's Lombardi on what he will create with Bill in Chapel Hill. We're going to build a pro-personnel department, and that pro-personnel department really will be the transfer portal. So that will be what we build there to monitor all the college teams, whether it's in the ACC, the Big Ten, the Southeast Conference,

or in any conference, right, the new PAC-12. So you have to monitor all the players just like you would in pro football. And then obviously you'll have a director of college scouting, but that guy will be the director of high school scouting and monitor all the high schools. Yeah, it's a pro model, but you're dealing with high schools. Cliff Kingsbury, who coached in college, coach Patrick Mahomes, and was a head coach in the NFL and now as a terrific coordinator for the Washington commanders,

was asked this morning about Belichick as a college head coach. What do you kind of think of the idea of a guy at his status going to college in this day and age? I will have to see him on the sideline to believe that's happening. I got to just sit around and observe last year And no I don't see my man going any home visits Or doing like the cocktail hour after the visits I just don't

Maybe he'll set it up like an NFL deal But I have to see that to believe it Yeah I mean everybody that knows Bill Edelman Brady and Grunk And anybody that knows Bill You know everybody's like This is going to be odd Yeah this was this weekend

And the guys, former players under Bill, about Belichick. We heard this week that Bill Belichick is actually interviewing for college jobs. Can you imagine him coaching college? No. Absolutely not. I think there's a lot of things he can do. And obviously, he's tremendous and even showing his personality. But getting out there on the recruiting trail and dealing with all these college kids,

that would be indicted with NIL? Could you imagine Bill on a couch? Recruiting an 18-year-old? You really want to come here? I mean, we don't really want you anyway, but I guess you could come. We'll figure out if you play. If you bring your parents and you're off a third party, you're gone. You're off the team.

Yeah, and that is the cultural shift in the sport. It's Lincoln Riley's struggling with this, and Brian Kelly are struggling. And Lincoln Riley won 11 games a year at Oklahoma, so he can know us how to coach, and Brian Kelly does. It's hard to, hard coach kids. And to build a culture, you've got to do some hard coaching. You're not walking into Carolina. is not Clemson. It's not, you know, it's not.

It's not Ohio State. That's not what it is. It's not, I mean, go ask Kurt Signity at Indiana, the first couple years there. You got to, you can't walk on eggshells. Brian Kelly at Notre Dame for several years. But it is really hard now because you can poach people's players and they can poach yours. And so it's a really daunting, a very relentless cycle now that you're,

recruiting your own players almost as much as you're recruiting other players. And sometimes it's not almost. You are. And so it's, um, it's tough. And I, and I, again, I'm not saying Mac Brown got back to Carolina before this thing became the Wild Wild West. But in the last couple years, Mack Brown looked a bit old for the job. And Mac was a legendary recruiter. So I, I think Bill's coaching and personnel moves, there'll be no problem. And I think could have some success, but do you really see a five-year deal? Do you think he'll be in North Carolina in five years? Would you be shocked if he took it for a year?

He won games, 10 games, and people were going crazy how successful it's been, and then his son gets the job and he bolts back to the NFL because there's seven openings. I don't think that's nuts. I do not think it's crazy. I've seen these legendary coaches come to networks, and they're like, I can't wait to broadcast a year later, they're off coaching. I wouldn't be surprised if he goes there is pretty successful, but he's like, guys, you can have my son.

This is not for me. I don't like it. And he goes back to the NFL. I do think he'll get another head coaching job in the next two years. I really do. I really do. Here was Nick Wright yesterday on the effects of Andy Reed and Bill Belichick's choice of college football. Even if you go get that record, are you just holding it for a year for Andy Reed?

And I know people are like, oh, Nick, you're a chief's guy. Here are the numbers. He's going to end this season right around 300. If he's at 296 right now. He'll be 47 away from Shula himself. That means three great years or four mediocre years. So how important is that all-time coaching record if you actually only hold it for 12 months before Andy Reid blows past you? And it really is Annie Reid is not far from Bill Belichick.

It's surprising. He's only six playoff wins behind Bill Belichick. Six. And if he coaches two and a half more years, Mahomes is upright and healthy. He'll surpass Bill and all-time wins. So Andy Reid is much closer to Bill Belichick in the all-time done. list. It's Don Shula. It's Belichick and it's Andy Reid right behind him.

And if Andy's health holds up, he will become the winning us coach. Three more full years and Andy's it. You know, as long as Mahomes is upright. So it's, I mean, there it is. Belichick, Reed, Tom Landry, Shula. I mean, it's, if Andy goes on

two more playoff runs with Mahomes, he's number one all time. Isn't it amazing how close? You would think Belichick is miles ahead. I'm sorry, just to, you said he's number one, meaning most career playoff wins. Not the best coach in NFL history, right? Well, no, I mean, Don Shula's got the most wins ever.

Belichick's right behind him, but Reads right behind Belichick. But Belichick has the most Super Bowls, way more than Shula. Yeah, nobody's questioning that. Nobody's sniffing that. But Belichick failed a lot, and he's never failed. Everybody fails. Name somebody who hasn't failed. Listen, there's no discussion.

Nobody's passing Belichick for the greatest NFL. coach ever. Who's passing him? Andy Reed in three years. That's crazy? That's outrageous. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. You're just waiting six Super Bowls in a row? What's going on here? If they won two more. I can't wait for the Steelers to take them down.

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