The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 –Aaron Rodgers Absence is a ‘Bad Look’

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington react to Julian Edelman on The Herd, calling Rodgers absence in minicamp a bad look. Bronny’s draft day fast approaches and LaVar’s son narrows down his college choices.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Now, we are looking out the window here in the studio, and we're trying to see, do we have any more information on the whereabouts of Aaron Rogers? Do we have anything else that's out there? I believe Rich Samini, who's been all over this, he says that Rogers, or kind of hinted that Rogers is in the Middle East. I'm not sure what that doesn't really narrow it down for me, but I'm not sure what's going on there, but not everybody is thrilled. The Middle East of America or like the

Middle East, the Middle East of the world? I don't know. What would be the Middle East of America? I really don't know. Kentucky? I told though. What would it be? What's like the mid-east? If you're looking at the East Coast, what would be the Mid-East? Virginia? Chicago? No.

That's the West. Like Middle of the East Coast. Virginia? Virginia? Maybe. But that's considered the South. I don't know. More importantly, who cares? Point is, we don't know. We're saying of the United States. Yeah, United States, yeah.

Not just the East Coast. Yeah, well, okay, well, I mean, yeah, I guess, whatever. The point is, nobody knows where the hell Aaron Rogers is. That's the point. Julian Edelman was actually on the herd, and he spoke about his reaction, what he assumes is the reaction from people inside the locker room when it comes to Rogers not being there at mandatory. camps. Let's take a listen. I'm a big Aaron Rogers fan, but if I was in that locker room and Aaron Rogers wasn't there for three days on the mandatory mini camps, having played four snaps last year, having played four snaps off of an injury when we have two new receivers, we got a

bunch of new linemen that we added to the team with a CBA that doesn't allow us to practice a lot. I guarantee there's four or five guys, six, seven, eight, nine guys in that locker room sitting there like, where's he at? Now, if they start four or no, no one's going to care. That's right. But this NFL, I think it's a bad look for your leader, for whatever reason to go and miss an unexcused absence. I mean, I was with Tom Brady in his 25th year, 23rd year, and he started missing OTAs here and there, but he was still there, never missed a mandatory minicamp. And, you know, I just thought it was a bad look. Agreed.

It's a bad look. But go ahead, Q, you got it. Julian Edelman talking about Tom Brady missing. not missing stuff. Oh. Oh, Julian Edelman. Are you making the face while you're doing that? Yes, he is.

I was working on my Julian Edelman impression. He does a tremendous Julian Edelman. Come on, let's hear it. It's really great in person, too. Yeah. I just don't remember him talking like that earlier in his career and then being around him

a little bit at Exos. I was like, man, he's really changed up his cadence since he's gotten on TV. You're saying somebody's worked with him? He's different cadence to it. What was the old one, Q? Well, he slowed down a lot how he talks now, so he doesn't talk as fast as he used to. Like what you're doing right now?

You almost kind of can't sound like Randy Watton, macho man savage right there. Well, the crevel rises to the top. Always. He steps through the ropes in Dublin, Ohio. My name is Brady Quinn. I'm 6'4-242, and I'm stacked in jail. Julian Edelman I close grip bench

575 10 times When you dig it down Back to what we were talking about I got your EAS right here There's no way of getting around the fact that it's a bad look It's a bad look There's no way of getting around it right Correct

I mean it's a safe take You know when you're going to have mandatory minicamp You know it's finable You know all of that right Like it's there's no way of getting around it. The truth is, it's not going to matter if they win the division, go into the playoffs, get to the suit.

Like, no one's going to be talking about that, will they? But they will if things don't work out. They'll use it as one of the many examples. So that's the only thing at risk here. But it's kind of been who Aaron has been, at least, right? At least the last four, five years, maybe. This is kind of how he's conducted himself. So the Jets can't be surprised by it.

and I don't know why fans or people in the media are on the outside are surprised by it and like I said before like ultimately depending on how their season goes we're only going to talk about it if their season doesn't go the way we think it might go

and again I'm bullish on the Jets I think they will end up winning that division this year well you guys know I'm not bullish on them why not and so because again I think that it's hard to overcome corrosive culture. I really do. And I don't have any indicator that the culture has shifted in the direction

of a healthy culture that is conducive to having an environment to have success as a football team. And that's regardless of who you add. Again, if I'm giving an example, my rookie year, I came into a corrosive environment. Didn't know it at the time, too young to know it, to naive to know it, but nonetheless, that's what happened. They added guys like Dion Sanders. They brought in Jeff George to be the backup to Brad Johnson, who was an eventual Super Bowl champion for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They added Mark Carrier.

They brought in Bruce Smith. I mean, they drafted me and Chris Samuels. They loaded up the team, and the team was loaded. By the way, with a cornerback named Champ Bailey on that team. Yeah, Chan Bailey. You had Dion Sanders. you had Daryl Green. What up, Champ?

Yeah, Sam Shade. You had Mark Carrier in the back end of that defense. What a D Green? Yeah, Stephen Davis. Skip, yeah. What up, Steve Day? Yeah, Stephen Davis. You had Skip Hicks in the background.

Adrian, Morel, Larry, Senters in the back field. What up, Larry? Loaded. The team was loaded. Yeah, John Jansen on one tackle side. Double J. You had Chris Samuels on the other side, anchoring that offensive line.

the point is that we didn't even make the playoffs and I look at that as an example in terms of a reference point what would make you feel what would make me feel like things could have gone differently with that team with all that talent on it

and basically I think the conclusion that I continue to come back to is there needed to be an environment that was more stabilized and conducive to just being about the game and understanding that us working together, us getting better as a team was going to ultimately be the reason why we win games. And there were a lot of distractions.

And I think that in New York, there is going to be a ton of distractions. And while someone like Aaron Rogers, who has lived in what has been perceived as him creating distractions or whatever side you fall on it, I just think the reality of it is that maybe he can handle those aspects of what comes along with it. But some of these guys are very young. There's a lot that goes along with having this type of offseason. And I don't know that this team has given me any indication that they're going to overcome all of the things that are being discussed or that we've seen in years past from this organization. So I'm going to support Aaron Rogers through all this.

Of course you are. because that's just the hill I've chosen to die on. And I'm happy to die on that hill. No problem. I think whatever he wants to do to get ready, he's been there the entire off season. He missed two days. Not really that big of the deal. I mean, maybe this is just how he gets ready, right?

Like, Jonas, how do you get ready for a radio show? Lift. Look at me. What do you mean? How do I get ready for a radio show? I lift. I do shrugs for an hour straight. You should see what he looks like right now.

Here's what I would. What do you do to get ready for the radio show? In what way? In what regard? Just driving here or just before we crack the microphone? I just like to think. Like in the car, are you like, are you warm up your voice singing? No.

You know, sing out now Brown Cowell? No, I listen to music. I try to pump myself up like I'm about to go play a game. Okay. I do try to, like, I'm going to give the people what they want, you know, for the most part. Maybe this is his pump up, you know? Yeah. Aaron Rogers?

Yeah. Yeah. That's good to think that, okay, he's got a pump up. Obviously, he's had a lot of great success. But what if that pump up doesn't translate to the other guys that are in that locker room? I feel like for me, if I have a bad show, like say my pump up doesn't lead to me having a great show. It doesn't matter because in radio, you guys will have a great show. I'll have a bad show and somebody might hear it and be like, oh, the dude sucks, da, da, this, and now that we keep it moving.

But in football, if one of us, especially Aaron Rogers, you know, or better yet, if it's not Aaron Rogers, if it's other players, like if it's his running back, if it's his offensive linemen, if it's his receivers, if they have a bad game and Aaron Rogers can overcome that, they're going to lose. And ultimately, that's going to impact them because they weren't able to get over what it was that Aaron Rogers used to get himself ready. They weren't able to overcome.

I mean, listen, if he wants to do bong rips while sitting on a camel to get ready for the season, then you go do what you got to do. Like, they'll take whatever they can get. They are not in a position to complain about what Aaron Rogers is. I mean, the only problem is, is what if he goes down? He went down. Aaron Rogers was ready to go. He goes down.

And what happens to their season? Their season went down. So I think if it's made all about Aaron Rogers, then I think that you defeat the purpose of this team having a fair opportunity to win if Aaron Rogers is unavailable. Can I ask you guys about this? Because I thought this was, I'm not sure exactly how to view this. But when he was away from mandatory minicamps, there was a story. They kind of got buried in the whole, you know, theories of where he was and what he was doing. But part of this story that I thought was kind of interesting, Connor Hughes of S&Y reported that Todd Downing was calling plays during the two-minute drill at minicamp and not Nathaniel Hackett. if Rogers was there, is that happening?

Or is it because he wasn't there that they decided... See, that's a petty conspiracy theory there. I'm just asking, was that sort of a punishment? Who knows? Was it a... No, it could just be they're giving Todd Downing an opportunity. You know, coaching staffs have to prepare for everything. Well, I was with Nathaniel Hackett's sick.

Can't be in the facility. Can't call plays. Something to happen. Right? You've got to have somebody who's out there as well. So you've got to prepare yourself for that. I mean, Downing is the quarterback coach, and he is the past game coordinator. And so one thing you have to consider too is oftentimes there could be a coordinator who's up in the booth. And that means he's not the one talking directly in the quarterback's helmet.

It might be a relayed call in to someone on the sideline who's then calling in the radio system of the quarterback's helmet. So sometimes there's confusion from people on the outside because they're like, oh, so-and-so is calling the plays. You're like, well, no, he was just, you know, basically radioing in. the play. There's still someone else who's actually deciding what play is being run. So I don't know that you can read too much into that. That being said, I mean, Todd Downing has been an office coordinator before in Oakland back in what, 2017. And I think they're in the bottom half the league and yards at scoring. And 2021, 2022 in Tennessee, he was there too. And they got worse between those two years. Got to be in the middle of the road to that. So I'm not sure it gets any better if they're looking at

going to Todd Down, at least given his resume. far. I would say there's a better conspiracy theory if Nathaniel Hackett had just mysteriously coincidentally, ironically took a vacation at the same exact time as Aaron Rogers. You know,

leaving, leaving... I think you just assumed they'd be together. It'd be like Lee and Todd. Or Lee and Jonas. What are you mean? There you go. That's pure coincidence. Now you're with me. There you go. That's pure coincidence. Nathaniel Hackett was gone and said it was pure pure coincidence that I took the same exact

time off as Aaron Rogers during the mandatory minicamp that took place and left, you know, the rest of the team, the practice left Brady and LeVar to do the show without them. I would say that there's more validity to the conspiracy theory. That's pure coincidence. That's just pure coincidence. Well, then why come up with the idea of the offensive coordinator not calling the two-minute drills and creating a conspiracy theory to that? I mean, listen, I'm just trying to...

I'm with you there, right? Turn on that music because, you know what? I want to know. Hey, let me tell you something. I want to know. I took time off. I want to get to the bottom of this. And Lee just happened to coincidentally take time off at the exact same time.

Now, keep in mind that Jonas Knox... And we ended up literally five days during the course of an entire 365-day calendar. And Lee, the lap, happens to take a vacation. the same exact time as one Jonas Knives. I don't know. I mean, maybe it is coincidental. I don't know. That sounds like something you've got to take up to Lee.

I don't know. I don't think it's take up with it. I just think that this is like that would be a better conspiracy theory for what's going on in New York versus what the one you'd present it. Lee, do you want to defend yourself against these reckless accusations here on the air? Like, do we want to have this conversation? You know, we've synced up. I don't know what to tell you. Are we on the same clock?

I think so. I think it might be... We're always in this... Yeah, never mind. I'm not going to say that. I forgot what time slot we're in. That's all good, though. That's a joke that's appropriate for in the morning.

But all seriousness, right? If Nathaniel Hackett was not there, then maybe you had the conversation. You know, now I would say, knowing that Aaron Rogers let them know before, he let them know ahead of time that he was. going to be missing. I just, and I used graduation as a reason why he was missing, you know, as that being a legit reason to say ahead

a time. What did I use as a reason why? Hot air balloon ride. Yeah, hot air balloon right. Oh, that's right. Yeah, hot air balloon ride. I think it was because I saw one that morning and maybe I was just, and it was like that back on the back. I think we were both wrong anyway, so I think Jonas, I think Jonas is more

closer to being correct than any of us. Well, you were gone and we played headliner lie, And then I think Lee or Jonas floated out of theory. So there's that. Yeah, that he, uh, that was a lie, though, I think. The ayahuasca. It was my guess. That was my theory on where he was.

No, you had a destination, though, too. Did I? Yeah. I don't know. I'm not sure if I did. It was a couple weeks ago. By the way, I just saw this headline. I thought this was pretty funny.

Um, the bartender, uh, Justin Timberlake's bartender is claiming that he had one drink before his DWI arrest. Yeah, what was it? A paint can of moonshine? one drink my ass what do you mean is bartender like he's got a personal bartender is he on tour the bartender that was

that I guess served him the drink man that's like one guy so he served him one drink what are we talking about this one else is few of more drinks all right well listen you know if we do have any updates on the whereabouts of Aaron Rogers and we will give that to you at some point throughout the course of this show

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Hey, you know what? Is it also the time slot? Tell me. Well, look, if somebody would do us a solid and get in trouble so we could talk about something different, we'd appreciate it. If somebody would just go out there. I mean, that's why you brought up Justin Timberlake. I can honestly take us on a completely different direction

because I have a question from an incident that took place last night at a concert. And I'm curious to get your feedback on this. Oh, did Kelsey did? No, no, no, no. I had some friends who were out of concert. Okay. And they went to walk to their seats

and there was people who were standing or sitting in their seats. And so they walked over and they said, excuse us, you're in our seats, here's our ticket. And their response was, well, someone's in our seats. And so we're just going to sit in these seats. And they really tried to sit there. They tried to like basically capitalize on the fact that because someone wronged them, they're going to wrong someone else.

And so basically my friends who went to this were just supposed to find a spot to sit somewhere else. Now, eventually an usher guy involved in all this stuff. I was thinking to myself like, is that how that works? Like you just go get an extra. Well, if someone sat in my seat, instead of doing the right thing, I'm just going to try to mess up for someone else. No, that's not the right way of handling it. I would say go get an usher.

Go get an usher. And if so, if they... Well, there was some words had at one point in time. Maybe the meat wagon got involved. I don't know. Oh. So the better way of explaining it is knowing the characters that are involved in what takes place. Because there are a certain group of people within my circle as well that it would...

have been an offense of sorts where now it's like, are you looking at me and how I will beat the S out of you if you don't move and comply with what it is that we want to do? It just depends on what depends on the character. You know, Superman's going to handle it different than Batman. You know what I mean? I think the comment was made that. Someone was going to get tossed 11 rows if they didn't get out of the scene.

There you go. Who is he? Hold on. So what was the concert? the Zach Bryan concert Oh I mean Well you shouldn't have been there anyways I mean I wasn't there

But I had some friends You don't like his music This was the story they were canted to me And I thought to myself I like the response Because that's what I would want it to say A way of getting those people out of your seat So you're not doing that to someone else

I'm going to get an usher It's also kind of weird that They found their balls In between Not having the courage to stand up for their own seats But then have the courage to stand up for somebody else's. That's a good point. Somewhere during that time.

They're like, you know what? We're not going to take this anymore. I should be telling them you're going to go and over rose down. It's weird how that works. Like, I didn't have the courage at the time, but you know, upon further review. Which should be more offensive because you actually felt brave enough to say that to me, but not the people who was in your seats. By the way.

Now, again, I don't know what the people who are in their seats looked like. I know what my buddies look like. I get it. They're bigger fellows. So I would have, and based on their story, the people who were saying they were going to stay at their seats, they had an extreme height, weight, everything advantage on them.

Oh. Yeah. On them, on your peeps. No. Oh, your peeps had the extreme weight. Yeah,

on them. Like, it wouldn't have been good for them. But see, the thing about it is, is you can't win in that scenario, because now that's going to turn into legal fees, and you might get arrested or, you know,

they might sue. Like, it's just, you just go get a, go get a, an usher. Yeah, you go get an usher. And then the usher can go get the security. If then the security could get the cops and then you go from there. But I would love to be the one that would handle it if we were in that scenario. Remember the good old days back in like 2022 when people were just

happy to be able to go places again, you know, and now everybody's got that air, their arrogance with them now. All of a sudden it events. Yeah. Why couldn't they go anywhere in 2021? Well, you know, in California, things were a little bit different out here. It's, you know, Yeah, things were a little bit shut down. A little bit shut down. Had to go see that concert by Zoom. Had to sit in pods. You know, if you want to be a part of any live event.

Make sure you keep it masked up, you know, unless you're certain people, then you can take it off. By the way, it would have been tremendous, though. Had the meat wagon thrown. Including the person who says it, by the way. Had the wagon thrown them 11 rows down. It would not have been good. It would not have been good. Yeah, but he would have gotten arrested.

That's the arrest that we needed. and we'd be like, hey, we know that guy. He was at one of our remotes. I also did make fun on one of my buddies because he's big into BJJ, Brazilian Jiu-Zitsu, and he's really rised up and gotten better. But I'm like, I mean, it's one of those deals where, like, no one knows you know that, like wrestling or BJJA. Until it happens.

Yeah, you don't know who can fight these days. And on top of that, like, you're not going to be able to overly utilize that, like, in every single space, whereas if you got like a Mike Tyson overhand right, or a nice hook, that would come into play. But anyway, and I don't mean to get off topic, but I'm trying to save us from. I thought we were on topic, and I was kind of like considering and wondering how the relevance of what your story is, who's getting tossed 11 rows if they draft Bronny James to the Lakers? Oh, look at that.

Oh, look at that segue. Well done. Who's getting tossed? Well done. Who's getting tossed? We are. Yeah. I don't know.

That's a great call. Because, you know, the NBA draft is coming up later on this week. And I don't know if you guys know this or not, but all eyes are on somebody who might not get drafted at all. And that would be Brony James. Oh, no. Who in some mock drafts is seen as going as high as 55 and as low as 55 as well, too, because that's where Brony James is at. As high and as low at the same number. So everybody just assumes.

They just That's funny I don't know if everybody caught that But that is hilarious They just assume that it's a foregone conclusion Brony James It's high and as low as the same number Brony James is going to end up

With his dad in the LA Lakers With yo daddy And if you go to draft Kings right now To draft Brony James The Lakers are sitting at a minus 120 So they are the favorite Wow They are the favorite to take Brony James there.

They are the favorite. There's a report out, right, that LeBron's going to opt out, but that doesn't mean he's not going to sign back with the Lakers. I believe that's what I've read. Which means that you're still leveraging. Doesn't that mean that's what you're doing? That you're basically going to see where Bronnie ends up and then try to leverage that situation into potential going to that team.

And we talked about this last week. Like I don't fault LeBron James for wanting to play with the son. it was like one of the most unique things that you could experience in life, let alone in professional sports. So I don't know why people, I don't know, I apparently have criticism towards him about this. I think what the frustration is is the fact that it feels like he's manipulating the Lakers to do what he wants them to do with the head coaching hire,

maybe some roster construction, and then he might not even sign back if they don't take Brani. Or always holding them hostage, if you will. And that's the tough spot. because obviously you'd like to be able to have things where it works out organically now where you're forcing things behind the scenes. I also kind of feel bad for Brony James

because I don't know that he's necessarily asked for any of this. Like I've never heard him actually talk publicly that much about all this stuff other than he made a comment a few weeks ago saying yeah, you know, it's not something that, you know, I have to have to play with my dad. It's not, he just kind of more downplayed than anything. But you don't hear a lot from him.

Okay, so we're going to have a real thing. really open conversation right now. Come on, let's do it. Let's be open. No, because you weren't here last week because you were visiting, really, Penn State with your son. And we talked about that. And I said, you know, obviously your son's got three amazing choices, right? I believe, or is this final three? He's narrowed down. Yeah. Yep. Is it UCLA, Tennessee, Penn State? That's correct. Okay. So I talked about all three. I just said, like, he can't go wrong. Like, that's my perspective. Because, you know, UCLA's great school. It's a good program. It's going to be close to home for you guys.

Tennessee, there's so many things to like about that. Josh Hype was a hell of a coach. I love Knoxville, everything else about it. And then Penn State. And one of the things I talked about in regards to Penn State is, it's like the good and the bat of he'd be playing behind you literally in your shadow, which there's greatness to that. But there's also that element of like, do you want that for him?

What does he want for himself? and how that whole conversation goes. So, like, I know I've kind of put in the spot. No, no, I mean, for me, that's why I've stayed out of, you know, I've only gone on his official visits. You know, all the other visits that he's taken has just been him and his mom and his sister. You want to get game. That's your thing.

Dang. Dang. What? I mean, I've heard he's enjoyed himself on, on the official visits that he's gone on. I mean. You go to Zimbys with you? No, I ain't taking the Zimbys. He ain't ready for Zimbys.

That's next level. Talk about playing in the shadow. You know, he ain't ready for Zimbie. Damn. Listen, here's the thing. Zimbis is not a strip club, by the way, people out there listening to us. We have a different audience here. They have the Lovar Island at Zimbys, though, in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

I still want credit for giving you the naming rights of that. That's all I want. It's your drink, but I want credit for naming it. Hey, you know what's crazy, though, the missing ingredient or the added ingredient is amaretto to the LeVar Island. That's what makes it the LeVar Island. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah, all right.

So anyway, so if you go get a Long Island and you ask for Amarretto to be added to it, now you're drinking a LeVar Island. So shots out to Brady Quinn for coming up with the LeVar Island deal. What's better Lions Den or the basement? I don't go to any of those. Champs is actually the spot there. He's not lying too. And it's not the chain, people, not the Champs chain you're thinking about.

Yeah, yeah. I thought that at one point, then when I went there, I was like, oh, no, this is something entirely different. Champs has been there for a long time, and then they expanded to the downtown, which used to be a Chili's, by the way. And God bless,

they took that Chili's and turned it into a vibe. And we were there. Anyway, so it's a great question because it's a question that's always answered. So just even thinking about if my son could play at the same time as me on the same team, let alone going to the same school that you went to donning the same number and different things like that. It's interesting. I was having a conversation earlier about kind of something that took place. And I don't want to disclose it.

I'm not going to talk about it. But the thing about it for me is I do not want to be the one who dictates to him where he goes and what he does if that's what he's earned, Q. And that's to me, that becomes the question I ask myself. And looking at it as a parent and looking at how this situation is kind of unfolding with Brani and LeBron. Is this a situation where if he gets drafted and goes to. a team. Is it something that he has unequivocally earned? Because

if Brony has earned everything that he's gotten, then there's no reason to worry about what happens and what decisions are being made outside of what he's earned. So if he's earned being drafted to the Lakers, then now from there

LeBron can make his decisions does he want to opt in and stay there? Does he want to opt out? Whatever it may be, you make your decision. based off of everything that took place for the team. For me, I look at my son and I say, you've earned the right to be a top recruit. You've gotten scholarship offers from some tremendous schools.

I thought he should have took Michigan seriously, more serious than what he did. I thought he should have took Oregon more seriously than what he did. I liked both of those programs along with Tennessee outside of Penn State. Love UCLA. loved Deshawn Foster and the coaches staff. Met Bian and me. I told you guys how much I thought of him after meeting him. I just don't think that UCLA has the resources

to be able to handle these teams that I'm talking about. And he has the talent, man has the talent, to go be a player at one of those programs. So for me, I'm saying to you, you've narrowed it down to the three that you like the most. I think that they're fine, find decisions that you've narrowed it down to. And it ultimately comes down to how you feel

and how you feel about how your family feels about the decision that you're going to make. You're not going to get the opportunity to say to me, which kind of you're touching on, Jonas. You're not going to get to say to me after it takes place, you set me up to fail. Like you made this decision. You're the one that manipulated this.

You're the one that dictated what happened and forced things to happen. And now this is the situation I'm in. My son would never be able to do that and say that. I chose this because you told me to choose it. And now everybody's saying, they hate me or I can't, I don't play like you or this, that, and the other like, no, you aren't the right to choose where you want to go play. That's a, that's a wonderful, wonderful thing to have happened because very few people get this opportunity.

So take in the information. If you want to run some of it by me and get advice on it, I'll certainly add advice to what it is. the situation is. You certainly have to take a good, long, hard look at Penn State because of what your dad represented to that university and how you're going to be looked at and how you're going to be measured. And you'll have a fair opportunity to build a legacy within our legacy that, you know, is your own if you were to choose somewhere else. So I'm not sitting here trying to force Penn State on him because I went to Penn State and I love Penn State. I'm actually telling him you have to be cautious. and aware of making that type of decision. So to me, I feel like in a way, LeBron wanting to play with his son is a blessing, but it's also a curse that if y'all on the same team together, how is that judgment of Brony James going to look?

How is it going to be weighed and measured if Brony doesn't get on the court? Or if he does get on the court and the team isn't doing well. Like what type of impact, and for me it's more so as a dad, right? His emotional, his mental. How is it impacting him? that way versus his career. It is the herd here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Erington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, in for Colin Cowherd, brought to you by Navian.

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Way to go, Lee. Breaking news. Jonas is serious. Ha ha ha ha. All right, so Ryan Music, what do we got? All right. Here we go. NFL news.

Let's line him up and knock him down here. Brock Purdy going into his second season as the full-time starter for the 49ers. this time he's actually healthy and not necessarily fighting for a roster spot or reps but how good is he? Well his star tight end George Kittle told NBC Sports Bay Area this quote he looks like the guy

it's really nice he's in the building every day he's the same guy every single day he's consistent he's incredibly competitive it's fun seeing him yell at guys when they don't hit the route depth if they have the wrong landmark he's taking control of the offense and making it his all right so this is like the first

real offseason he's had because last year he had the surgery. Correct. When he came in, who knows how many reps he actually got. Maybe next to none. So believe it or not, he's actually going to get better and better. And he's actually there. You know?

Yeah. Okay. There you go. There you go. He's not looking for the playbook like Jimmy G when they had Jimmy G. But they were going to give him the playbook and then all of a sudden he had to play because Stray Lance got hurt. Now, let me ask you a question. Because the Niners and Jets open up the season together.

if the Niners beat the Jets in week one, is it because Brock Purdy was at mandatory minicamps and Aaron Rogers was not? That's the sole reason. That's the only reason. No, I just want to know. What do you mean? No, I mean, I'm in on this.

The 49ers have been a little something about playing quarterback, okay? Since he went back to Green Bay. That will be the take. It's a struggle with him in Green Bay. He goes to the Jets. And now, I think the other big concern is, who was the player that was involved in him?

tearing his Achilles Leonard Floyd Who does he play for now? San Francisco 49 Oh, that's right Yeah Nice

Where are you on that one Ryan That one out pretty quickly I don't know It could be that Or it could be Three days of practice in May Brady I'm Yeah I think it could be

Well played Well played sir Well played Lavar you're all in on that though I'm all in All in Lavar is hate on the jets this year No, I'm not.

You don't want Xerxes to be successful, too. I do want Xerxes to win. You're a part of 300, that's why. No way. I mean, I am part of the 300. You're part of the 300. We're just going to go take a stroll. In fact, Aaron Rogers just said, I'm going to go take a stroll.

He just didn't want to tell nobody where he was going, except Xerces. Maybe he's visiting that battle site for all we know. What was it called? Therma play, Thermopylae. Thermopy. Yeah, there we go. All right. Wonderful.

What else we got right? All right. The Arizona Cardinals looking for a bounce back season, hoping to get back into the playoffs for the first time since 2021. Big reason for that turnaround is not only having a healthy Kyler Murray, but the addition of their new wide receiver, Marvin Harrison, Jr. Here's what Murray has told ESPN about his new teammate, quote, I think he takes us to another level when you got a guy out there that's capable of winning one-on-ones. Obviously, he's got to do it, and he knows that. We all know it. But as far as manipulating coverages and stuff like that, you got a guy out there that can do that. Even if he's not open, he's open.

He's plus 700 to win Rookie of the Year, Marvin Harrison Jr. behind... I assume the quarterbacks are the favorites. Yeah, Caleb Williams at a plus 135. Jaden Daniels at plus 550. And then after Marvin Harrison Jr., it goes J.J. McCarthy, Malik Neighbors,

Xavier Worthy. Malik Neighbors? Yeah. Yeah, I like that to your honor. 18 to 1. I love the value on him. He's the only option they've got. Now, same thing for Marvin Harrison, Jr. I mean, both those guys are going to be getting a lot of

targets, but I kind of like Jane Daniels, they're the best. And what do you say? It was 5 to 1? Plus 5.50. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think, because him and Caleb Williams, we know we're going to start right away. Maybe Drake May, probably,

maybe J.J. McCall, we don't really know. So you got to kind of bet on that, too. I don't think Caleb Williams is going to win rookie of the year. And it's going to be a runaway. It's going to be a runaway. And y'all know.

No, you know, I'm just saying. I was just saying, you've definitely changed your tune on that. I'm just saying. No, I'm not changing my tune. I'm just saying. I think that that's what's wanted. That's wanted. Why are you so emotional about it when you're talking about Katie Williams?

What's an emotional? I just think that that's, you know, although I will say if Kyler Murray stays healthy, I don't think Marvin Harrison Jr. is a bad pick at all. I think he finished the second and what takes place. but I think Caleb Williams is going to do enough with a crappy team to get rookie of the year. Can you buy Marvin Harrison Jr. merchandise shed or is that still not allowed? I'm sure, yeah, he got it done when he signed his contract. So he's good?

You're just trying to create some drama. I'm just asking you these questions. Listen, I'm trying to get to the bottom of this stuff. Save it for your mama. I'm trying to get to the bottom of this stuff here. That's all I'm doing. Kayla Williams and then Marvin Harrison Jr. Bam, you heard it here first.

So no Jaden Daniels? Nah. Damn. They're going to do just as bad, though. A lot of shame, man. Jump in on. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.

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