The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 – Asante Samuel Sr. rips Hipster Coaches & Bruce Feldman on NIL

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Asante Samuel Sr. rips into the Dolphins and hipster coaches. College Football Reporter for FOX and The Athletic, Bruce Feldman helps explain the crazy numbers and rules circling NIL. Plus, Maxx Crosby feels good energy with Pete Carroll. #2prosSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And you can find us filling in for Colin here until 3 o'clock Eastern time, noon Pacific here. As we begin hour two of the program, what up, sticks? Whoa, whoa, wah, what up sticks. That's a dope. That's a dope intro song. You know, and that's the cowherd intro song. That's right.

For the show. That's right. We need to find somebody to... Oh, we do have one. We do have one. Never mind. Our buddy, what is it, Lee? Oh, Lee and Corvallis.

Yeah, who wrote... He's made us a couple of them. Like a 50s diner edition. I really like it. Two pros and a cup of Joe. You know what movie that's for? and you know what they were doing? Okay, that's more commonplace these days.

You know what movie? Boney Nights? No. It's a good guess. Come on. Come on. I could tell you, it's super simple, super easy. We know you watch movies from the 80s if you got this right.

Music. You want to try it? Lee? Hey, Lee, you're a movie Blow Hard. The name of the restaurant was called the Blue Oyster. Did I get that one right? Blue Oyster. There you go.

Police Academy. There you go. You remember every time you go in there, that would be the song that play. Every single time, they fall in there. Oh! You see dudes with chaps on and that's it. Damn. The collars, the dog collars around.

Why do I remember this? All right, I might be incriminating myself. That's all right. I put myself out there. But I do remember the Blue Oyster from Police Academy movies. Because of that song, in particular, by the way. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, there you go. Now, do you remember when the Miami Dolphins were good? Do you remember that? Let's see. Larry Zonka, Mark Duper. Well, Duper was with Damarino. Yeah. Which they were good then, too.

They just couldn't win the Super Bowl. Let's see. Who else was there? Don Schula was the coach. Anyway, it's been a while. Yeah, I mean, listen, and they've had. It's been a while. You know, Ricky Williams was there.

Dave Wonstat was there. They've had some runs here. And the most recent run you would look at and go, well, they've made a couple of playoff appearances. Sure. As we've talked about, you know, Tua can't stay healthy. If he can't stay healthy, the splits between him healthy and not healthy are drastically different as far as their wins and what they are as a football team.

Asante Samuel Sr., though, he was on the Say What Needs to Be Said Podcast recently and had this to say about the Miami organization? Dolphins had no reason to trade Jaylon Ramsey other than they're sensitive. There's no leadership in the Dolphins organization. Mike McDaniels is a pushover. Chris Greer, the general manager, he has no backbone. These guys over here, the Miami Dolphins, they are running this team like a little league team. No one can stand up to the players.

They're terrified of their own players, and they have no control. over their players. So that from Asante Samuel Sr. talking about the Dolphins organization. What makes this interesting is that Asante Samuel Jr. was a potential free agent target for the dolphins. And then this stuff came out. So I'm not sure how he feels about that.

But a nice little rip job of everything going out of Miami there. I mean, you did kind of swap them out. lose a player. I mean, the tight end John who was in the top five in stats average yards in a game.

There's a pro bowl last year. Pro bowl. Yeah, his best year. Yes. So you get rid of him. Then you get rid of Jalen Ramsey for Mika Fitzpatrick. If my math is correct, I mean, Lee, you might want to look this one up.

How far apart in age is Jalen Ramsey and Minka Fitzpatrick. I'm going to guess two years, two to three years, maybe, maybe. Is there enough of an age gap between Minka and is two years? Two years. Is that enough of an age gap where you'd say we're going to get rid of an aging Jalen Ramsey for a, who's older?

Jalen by two more years? Okay. for a two years younger Minka Fitzpatrick that play they play one play safety one plays corner but one could potentially play safety if he can transition to playing safety does that make sense as a trade swap

it would make you question why you did it look we talked with Albert Breer last week and I just asked him straight up like hey man what are they doing what's the playing because you look at the Dolphins direction, sort of what's going on there. And he's like, yeah, they don't want to say it, but they're... It's a rebuilt.

Yeah. They tried to go at it from the standpoint of we've got a quarterback and a rookie contract. There's a window. We're going to try to go for it, but Tua hasn't been able to stay healthy. And it just hasn't worked. And there were some other reports that came out. this offseason that some of the veterans were growing tired of Mike McDaniel, that it had kind of run its course.

And so when you hear this, you know, he's talking about, you know, McDaniel's got, you know, a pushover, no backbone, et cetera, et cetera. I do wonder if there's more of that going on because the Tyree kill situation, him not wanting to be there and then he does want to be there. And then he's going to all of a sudden he loves being with the organization and being with the team. John Hussmith wanted to stay in Miami. me, they couldn't get that done. Chris Greer openly talking months in advance about wanting to trade Jalen Ramsey.

Last I checked, if you're trying to deal somebody, don't let everybody else know you're trying to deal them. You want to get the best offer you can. And he's out there just openly talking about like, oh yeah, we're going to decide we're going to move on and hopefully we'll get a deal done. We expect to get a deal done. And that's the deal they ended up with. It just feels like the honeymoon's over.

And the reality is this team's. starting to look less and less in comparison to where they were the past couple of years. I find it interesting the points Asante Samuel May, Sr. made about the being scared or not having a level of control. There are a lot of hipster head coaches in the league anymore. And it was, they were created by the Shanahan coaching tree. Like, Kyle Shanahan is like the number one hipster coach. then you got a Mike McVeigh, hipster coach. Then you got a Mike McDaniel, hipster coach.

You got hipster coaches in the league. It's because they're not fat. It's not because they're not fat. It's that they're hipsters. Like they have a hipster look about them. Like if you look up what a hipster looks like, that's what they look like. And so to me, at some point, if you don't get the support, and if you don't get that respect from those players,

how are they handling the relationship between one another? And I think Asante Samuels raises a valid point, a valid question. If you start to see emotions bubble up about you that aren't necessarily positive, and there's no real recourse you can take against your players when you have that type of physical stature, what do you do? You got to find the root of the problem and you got to delete it

because if you let that spread and if you let it continue to grow and then now it's like wait, hold on everybody's been or has been poisoned the well has been poisoned by this one person that just doesn't seem to look at me

in the way that I need him to look at me you got to get rid of them and that might be what took place with you. Jalen Ramsey is a very, very dominant, a very, very strong, masculine type of personality. I don't know him. I've never spoken with him. I've seen a lot of interviews on him. And it gives me he has an intimidating type of personality. Old school. Maybe. Maybe.

Because I do wonder if that could. That could be like nail on the head. Because look, they hired the contrast of what Brian Flores was as a head coach. Because people can't handle it. Yeah. And Brian Flores, they didn't like the way that he handled the two-as situation, which there's a lot of people. I didn't like it. That's a strong point. And I wonder if they overcorrected themselves to a point to where.

They went too soft. Yeah. They went. Here's the spectrum of old school coach. And then now you went opposite spectrum with new school coach. Because he is a new school coach. And a guy whose main priority was, I need to get our quarterback who was drafted number five overall to feeling good about himself again. And maybe that.

And they did. And maybe that came at the cost of some other people in the locker room. Maybe it came at a cost of if you can't get past a certain point, a certain threshold. some of these grown-ass men are going to call it out. I don't know what goes on behind closed doors. They did do a hard knocks with them. You did get an opportunity to see some of the proclivities of the head coach and others. What really goes on behind closed doors in locker rooms these days?

That locker room in particular, I don't really know. I just know the mentality of football players is that of, even though the game isn't as brutal as it once was, it is still a warrior sport. You are a warrior. You are a trooper. And I know people get offended. Don't compare football and sports to soldiers. I do. I do.

I call players that have retired civilians. They have now become civilians. And when you're playing your active duty. In fact, if you foul for it when you're done playing ball, you get active duty benefits as an NFL vet. So I do liken them to warriors and I do liken them to soldiers. So if that offends you, I don't care. At the end of the day, when you have that mentality that you got to take on to the field where it's you versus me and there is the mental aspect of it, but there's also the physical aspect of it that has to play out.

There is a different mentality from position to position. It gets more intense the closer you get to the ball. They're more touched. Now, outside, they're touched in a very selfish way. Receivers, corners, they're very selfish people. They're wired selfishly. They speak their mind. They say what they want to say because they're on islands.

They're by themselves. Whatever that receiver does, his success hinges off of his ability to get open or to catch the ball under any circumstances. If it comes near me, I got to get it. If I'm a corner, I am by myself and I have to cover this, man, and I have to make sure that I don't give up a big explosive play that can impact this game. By yourself, running yards, covering yards upon yards. The closer you get, it's just we right here. lineman de lineman we right here the minute that ball is snapped there will be blood there will be contact i'm going to test my agility i'm going to test my strength my technique my skill all these different things i'm testing that right now

then you have it it moves a little bit back to the linebackers it's kind of the same it's like but i have two brothers with me or one right i have one to the left of me i have one to the right of me and we We handle this as backing the linemen, but we're also helping the corners and the safeties. So to me, when you look at what you have to deal with in a locker room, the personalities that you're going to best get along with are the quarterbacks because they don't have to really do much, but they do the most. It's weird. But they don't have, you don't have all of that mental fortitude of, we got to go to war,

Like, we're going to battle. Like, let's go get this. Quarterbacks are more cerebral, more often than not. They're going to be more lighthearted. Some are very serious. Some are very, very fact-driven or whatever, it's structure-driven. That's what they brought Mike McDaniel in for.

You said it. You said it perfectly. They brought Mike McDaniel in to be able to crack the code. Fix our guy. On to a. Make him whole again. But you lost, you might have not taken into account what that type of personality that builds Tua up. Jalen Ramsey doesn't need that soft hand approach.

This guy over here, Chop Robinson, doesn't need that soft hand approach. You know, you had a big, big dog last year on the offensive defense line. He just, he probably just like, Callais Campbell. He don't need that. Tarique Hill doesn't need to be handled with kick gloves. I would assume two a dozen. He played for Nick Sabin. But that's what you chose to go with.

And if that's what you chose to go with, are you sacrificing, based off of what I can hear from Asante Samuel, Senior, are you sacrificing the whole of the team in terms of being able to accomplish because your personality makeup fits perfectly with the quarterback, but maybe not everybody else on the team. And also, like, you look at Mike McDaniels, he's five games over 500, he's had a good run there.

Like he has, I mean, they're competitive, again, win-to-is-healthy. But when you start to look at the moves they've made and the moving on from Jalen Ramsey and the moving on from John O'Smith and bringing in Minka Fitzpatrick and all this stuff, and Alvraer lays it out and says, well, you know, maybe this is, you know, more, they don't want to say this,

but maybe this is more of a rebuild. And you just start to take a look, take a step back. I mean, if they're a sub-500 team this year, Mike McDaniel's probably going to get the axe. Like, that's probably how this is going to go. And people could say, yeah, but, you know, he's got a winning record. And, you know, it's not his fault too. It can't stay healthy.

Right. But we've seen it before. Chip Kelly was, you know, five games over 500 and got clipped by Philly because they could just feel the tide turning in the organization. Matt Nagy had a winning record as Bears head coach, went to two playoff appearances, still they moved on because I think that people on the outside get a good read on what the vibe is inside the locker room. And if they can feel it turning, why wait any longer? You've got to make a move.

And I just wonder if there's people there that are like, hey, man, this thing's starting to turn ugly. Like it's starting to turn ugly. Those reports coming out, Asante Samuel, basically ripping the organization when they're looking at his son, trying to sign his son who's a free agent. This just feels like it's going sideways, man. It was cute while it was cute. It was cute.

By the way, you said this in kind of a joking fashion. The tone of Mike McDaniel changed. It had to change. His look, everything. If you look at what he was early on as a head coach versus what he is now, it had to change. It had to be a more aggressive-looking, Mike McDaniels, a more tougher

looking Mike McDaniels. McDaniel. It had to change. The way he talked changed. When we were making fun of, when I was making fun of him the one year from that year to the next year, I was like, oh, he changed the way he talks.

And the only reason why I recognize it is because I was making fun of the way he was talking the year before. Yeah, it kind of ruined your impression. The year prior, he was like, they'd be like, Mike, what did you see out there? He'd be like, Oh, well, the head of defense that was ready for our offense. And, well, we really weren't able to figure it out during the game. Guess we'll go back and we'll look at the film and we'll see what needs to be done.

Then he comes back to next year, he's like, well, I mean. He's fed everything up. They really beat our ass this day. I mean, we really, I really don't know what, what happened today. But I think we're going to go back and we're going to look at the film and we're going to make sure that we make the proper adjustments that we need to make. Like, it just did if you, if you just, he was so much better off when he sounded like a pot head. It's basically the whole moralist. I mean, I thought he was the kid that got sent to the principal's office and was explaining himself to the principal.

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We are going to have another edition of the Hurdline news for you here on FSR. But right now, we turn it over to the man who covers college football as well as anybody on the planet. He is none other than Bruce Feldman of the athletic. Also of Fox. You see him during Big Noon kickoff throughout the course of the season. Bestselling author, you can get him on X at Bruce Feldman CFB. Bruce, good morning slash afternoon. How are we feeling?

Doing good. Actually, at Big 12 Media Days in Texas, ran into a guy I think you guys know very well. Partner Brady Clint. Oh, he said? Oh, okay. Co-figure. Look at that.

Tell him we say hello. I'll tell him you miss him. Yes. Please do. There's a lot of people missing him. Let's check social. So what can you tell us here? Just in looking at this whole story that's broken in college football when it comes to Texas Tech and their recruitment of Felix Ojo, what can you tell us about how this all started and sort of where we're at?

Because we're seeing different reports of what the actual contract is. I saw the 5.1 and then it was 2 million in change. What do you know of the deal thus far? Yeah. So the story broke on July 4th. And I was offline. I was with my family on the holiday. And then the next morning, some of my colleagues at the athletic, we were trying to confirm that what was reported for $5.1 million for three years. And I ended up making a bunch of calls and talking to people at Texas Tech who would know.

And myself and my two colleagues, we had talked to several people in the process. and they said actually the figure is for 775 each year for three years, and it's not the 5.1. Now there was a caveat to that, which was that if things change in the revenue sharing model or if there's a lot of deregulation, then maybe it can get up in the $5 million range. But the deal right now is for what we reported at the athletic, which is three years, 775 per, We had talked to the agent involved, and the agent had said, no, it's 5.1, but when we had asked for some confirmation of that, he declined to offer that. And so based on what we know and what we could confirm that it was significantly less than what was reported on Friday.

I have so many questions. Let's start here with the agent. you got to believe the agent is trying to push that number to the figure that he's pushing it to because they have no intentions of staying at Texas Tech, correct? The idea that is is if we can say we got a guarantee three-year contract that that totals out to the $5 million range, then if we're coming here, you got to be in that, you've got to be in that parameter or within that realm of compensation for us to even consider coming to your school. that's what I would assume would be the priority of the agent

representing these college athletes at this point would that be safe to say? Well, I think, LeVar, I think what's going on here is the agents who you probably either were ported by going into the NFL or workday I think those are a lot of them are certified agents and it was a different landscape than what we have now. There's a lot of NIL agents who aren't certified by anybody

and they're trying to get established. And so you'll see a lot of times on social media, whether it's on Twitter or whatnot, or Instagram, you'll see the people credit and just say, so-and-so told me, and they'll reference the agent, and maybe they'll even include their Twitter handle, and it's a way for them to build that person's brand

and help them kind of get established, but also it is a way for that agent to try to set the market or reset at the market because most people, you know, I'm here about the Big 12 and the other schools have no idea how much Texas tech really probably is on the hook to pay. But they just think maybe what happens is the first dollar figure that's put out there that people see on social media. That's the one everybody ends up running with, and especially if it's the biggest one. So now it's like that's the one get passed around. Well, is that the going rate for a five-star

offensive line, 5.1 million for three years, or is it what they are actually, you know, on the hook for? It can't be. The easy answer to that is it can't be the going rate because nobody does it. You can't project out to year three. Nobody does it. And let me just ask this before I turn it back over you, Jones. But in terms of guarantees, like inhering that guarantee figure being a part of the conversation. I mean, what type of language? Because I was just saying during the break, if my kid, which he got to offer more money from other schools than the school he ended up going to. But if they offered a guaranteed contract to my kid, you can't put language in there binding him to a contract where he has to stay there for the entire time. And if you did, we wouldn't take that contract.

There would be no reason to accept a guaranteed contract for three years if you're saying you have to be here for three years. because we don't know what the circumstances hold for him or your school during the course of that time. But I want the money guaranteed. If I'm a parent or I'm an agent, I want a guarantee. Has there been any conversation surrounding that? If he were to go into the transfer portal, having a guaranteed contract for three years, what happens then? Do they sue him? Do they sue to school?

What recourse is in place if you do a three-year deal? because no one's ever done a three-year guaranteed deal. Right, and there is, I don't think there is any guarantee, you know, in the true word, guarantee, true sense of it. I think that sounded good when he's probably told the reporter as such, but right now there's nothing that can be signed anyway because of the way all of this is set up. You can't have a signed contract right now

that specifically would be against any kind of rules about that. And so there's that. Then there's the other part of it. when you can say who can he sue you can sue anybody in the country doesn't mean you're going to win but I'm sure there'll be potential for lawsuits but think about it this way

if you're and I've had these conversations with football coach in this city like if somebody's going to leave to go to a different school let's say you know he's at Texas and he wants to go to Texas well if you're a football coach you want to

you got to pay a buyout or you know if it's a contract you have to get out of it and there's financial that are often with that. And so this thing is so different than I think the contracts you probably add in the NFL or the contracts that we see typically in pro sports. You know, you got to remember all of the athletes in your son puts in the suit. They're not employees.

You know, coaches are employees, but college athletes right now are not. They're not being that. Now, maybe at some point they'll get to that designation, but it's not right now. So we're in, I mean, it's still such a messy situation all the way around. Bruce Feldman joining us here on the herd here, Fox Sports Radio, LaVarerington, Jonas Knox, in for Colin. You know, it's not like Ojo's the only one this week, especially for Texas Tech. You've got Ashton Rowden, who's the four-star cornerback or a four-star running back. You've got the four-star cornerback in Donovan Webb.

There's also speculation that they're looking at Cooper Hackett, who's a five-star offensive tackle in the 2027 class. what is the vibe there about Texas Tech at Big 12 media days from people you talk to? Are they giving them kind of the side eye? Are they looking at it saying, hey, fair play,

they figured this thing out and they're going out and they're spending and they're getting some of these top recruits? It's next. It's funny. Like, we just had these conversations with a couple of coaches here.

On one hand, one of them said, hey, you know, good for them. If they have it like that, I wish I had that situation. Another coach was much more he was like, I think it's asinine how this is set up and I don't think that

it's going to work this way and wondered, I just didn't see it as a sustainable model. It's not. You know, like, I think it's great in one sense if you're a fan of this school, you're like, oh my God, we're beating Texas and we're beating Oklahoma and we're beating

LSU for records. We never would have beaten them before. You know, and so there's that. But, you know, I get why coaches who are actually in the business in the middle of this and know it and know what it's like to have a locker room and to try to maintain a locker room. It's like it's unsustainable. And so it's a fascinating experiment that's going on and love it for sure right now. There's so much that is un – it's just not structured.

And how can you have it structured when you never been here before and you don't have any comps to be able to do it? And you mentioned the whole employee deal. it's still not pay for play. That is very, very prominent in how the language is used as opposed to, you know, what is taking place at the college level. So if you are not a pay-to-play person, can you do, can you, and I don't want to put you on a spot if you don't have the information, that's fine. But I'm just curious, in terms of language, the house settlement versus the NCAA versus NIA,

It has to maintain being NIL specific or you're turning them into paid employees if it's just the university paying them. So when we talk about the rev share payment of the 20 million that's cap to pay these teams and where that money comes from, how it's given to the athletes, what is the difference now with that house settlement between the money that is given from the revenue sharing? and the NIL. So say it's like the collectives that are paying them an X amount of dollars for or they're getting NIL deals

with different companies, whatever it may be. Is there a distinct difference between that house settlement revenue and the NIL and how these athletes are getting paid for NIL deals? It depends on who you talk to.

Certain schools say it's not. Another school say it has to be. And what you've seen is a lot of places and teams, and we're just talking about one of them, the most prominent one now, they have front-loaded their rosters. And I think you're seeing a lot of that go on where teams are going to have budgets of 45 and 50 and 52 and as high as $55 million this year. Now you're telling me all of a sudden a year from now they're going to drop down the less than half of that. you know, we all know we worked around sports and long enough. That's not the direction it ever goes in. And we also know that there's always workarounds when it comes to college sports,

whether it's a bag man, whether it's a bag of McDonald's that's full of cash. There's always ways that people have gained the system. Why would we think it's not going to happen with a lot of these schools? You forgot car in the parking lot at the airport, by the way. Like, you know, Bruce, for somebody that covers college football, I was making the joke and I was half kidding yesterday that it just, it was so much easier when this stuff was illegal. Because we could just focus on, all right, who's got the top recruiting class, however they got it, they got it. But you, you had the usual suspects. And now you've got schools like Texas Tech who are all of a sudden like, oh, wait a second.

Like, we could be a part of this dance as well, too. I just, I don't know how it lands with you, but it feels like there's a lot. of unanswered questions, and I just don't know when we're going to get to the end where this is what it is, these are the parameters, and let's just focus on college football and college football alone again.

Yeah, and for me, I mean, that's kind of where I land on it. It's like, all right, show me who's going to be on the field, and we're going to, well, like, I don't have a dog in the fight, you know, where I just want to see, I still love the games. But, like, you know, right now, it's just, I've been around long enough to know that there's always workarounds and there's always people who are working the margins and it's different than the NFL where, you know,

you get punished draft picks or fine if you have too physical a practice or whatever they've, you know, but at some point I think college football will get to, you know, collective bargaining, but they're not there right now. And right now, I think it's still going to be the while while west, even if they try to pretend it's not. This is the reality and this is how they operate. Isn't there a governing body, just real quick, that when they did the settlement,

that they get to, or like a clearinghouse, that they make sure it's compelling. Right. They can kill a deal and say, you're not supposed to get that kid's, the value of what you're paying him does not match what it is that the kid is doing. where does that fall in? Where is that used? We're going to see how that plays out because you also have to get the cooperation from all these NIL agents

to put them the paperwork. Are they really going to all do that? What are they, you know, I just think there's a lot of things when it comes to Deloitte, who's going to be the accounting firm that's going to be involved with this, and the former MLB executive

who's now, you know, kind of the top top in this. I'll believe it when I see it just as we've seen, I'm talking to too many coaches who are just kind of like rolled up their sleeves and are like, oh, yeah, this is going to be a mess because they know. That's so, you know, it's not like the people involved are not different. There's just more middlemen involved. And there's just more rules to kind of navigate or circumvent of you want to look at it.

Yeah. Bruce Feldman, Fox College Football, reporter, writer, analyst. Part one. financial guru now. We've got a lot of meat on the bone on this one. You can also read his stuff on the athletic. Get him on X at Bruce Feldman, CFB, live from Big 12 Media Days.

Bruce, always appreciate it, man. Thanks so much and hope to do it again soon. Appreciate you, buddy. Yes, sir. Take care. All right. There is Bruce Falman with us here. There's so much to discuss, man.

It's the whole thing. I mean, the rabbit hole is such a deep rabbit hole, man. And it's dark. I'm telling you. It's a dark rabbit hole. This is going to get, I see it getting ugly before it gets better. There's a whole lot to work through with already pulling the trigger on allowing this type of funds to go out. And somebody who brings them funds to the table.

It's just, it's so much, so much to it. And I've been, you know, I've been immersed in this for, since it's happened, Jonas. Like, I've been connected to it in several different manners and capacities. and it is so confusing. Even having it organized and understood, it's still very confusing. And if it's confusing to people who are really, really in it and learning it and using it,

then you got to believe that everybody else is in the same situation. You know, it's not very easily to understand because there are a lot of things that are not in place that need to be in place. Structurally speaking, there is not an infrastructure in place where the current state of college athletics can thrive and be successful in. Something's going to happen. It's like trying to run a website, a web page that isn't programmed the right way. It's going to crash and you're going to lose all of the data and everything that's connected to it. That's kind of what the NCAA or what college sports is.

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What song is that, Johnson? Oh, my gosh. He said more stretch marks. My bad. I was just quoting, you know, that was my people from Goody Mob. I didn't see that CD in Hot Topic. Dang. What's not a stretch is to say that the Raiders have had their struggles over the years.

Bam. Okay. Landed it. Only one winning season in the last eight years. years, but things are different under new head coach Pete Carroll, their star pass rusher Max Crosby saying those changes are already in place and this is what Carol has gotten accomplished in Vegas quote, it's not fake energy and it's not just him. It's the assistant coaches, the whole building. It just feels different. Telling you, man. How can you say it's not

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You got to make it move. You got to make it sway. No. That one right there. Then don't say you believe it. I believe they're the most hopeful last place team in the NFL. They're going to feel of all the last place teams in the NFL next year, the Raiders are going to feel the best about themselves.

That's more breaking news than what was just stated about Max Crosby in the nowadays That's breaking news. What's your problem with Max Crosby and P. Carroll? I love Max Crosby. I just don't love this Raider situation. I don't love Max Crosby in the situation that he's in.

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