The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Backward Hat Cowherd

Episode Date: December 27, 2022

In this hour of The Herd, Colin must wear his Miami Dolphins hat backward after losing a bet to news anchor Jason McIntyre. While youthfully sporting his hat, Colin starts with his Herd Hierarchy and later welcomes in First Things First's Nick Wright to discuss the NFL's hottest topics. Finally, Colin reacts to Tom Brady discussing retirement on a podcast and considers where the elder quarterback might play next year.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wherever you may be. However you may be, live. IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. I didn't really make a bet. J. Mack foisted it upon me because he has to get the Seahawks logo. I mean, we became local radio doing stunts. You're going to get a Seahawk logo. shaved into your head if they win the next two games.

Correct. And then he lured me in to, I don't like hats on backwards for my quarterbacks. I don't like it at all. That's one of your big things, really. I don't like it. And so I said, I loved Miami this weekend. And they were leading 20 to 7, and then it appears that Tua got a concussion and still played and was just out of sorts. So it's time to shut him down for the year.

So I have to wear this on for the next hour, hat on backwards. The downside of this isn't wearing it on backwards. It's a little bit. It's actually the best-looking hat in the league. I mean, most of these teams changed logos and stadiums every 15 minutes. Dolphins have changed stadiums. Is that a great-looking logo or what? That's the best logo in the league.

I don't remember. When I was a kid, I think this was a logo. It's just clean and everybody loves circuits. It looks like Miami's weather. I mean, it's the best professional sports logo. all you're going to see is this. What a bummer. But since I made the bet, there we go. A look that, I mean, do I look ridiculous? Not at all. Come on. I have worked my entire life in this career. And now I look like the, you know, the guy around the corner. I don't know.

Just the guy around the corner. So anyway, with that, Nick Wright is coming up in a few minutes. What a discouraging way to look for our number two. Here we go. It's the her. Third hierarchy, top 10 teams in the league. Heard hierarchy. Time is now, let's go. The top 10 NFL teams, according to college. The Packas. That's how I feel like I should talk with my hat on backwards.

The Packers on a three-game winning streak, third comeback win of 10 plus points. That's the best and the most in Aaron Rogers era. I've been critical of Matt LaFleur. I don't think he's incapable, but I'm not sure he's as good as the media makes him out to be. Well, Aaron and Matt Lafleur are 15-0 in November, so it counts. I do worry about the injury to Christian Watson. It's taken them a while to get Aaron and these young receivers conjoined. They have.

I still wish they'd run the ball a little more with Aaron Jones consistently, but they make the top 10 Packers at 10. Number nine. The Chargers, they've won four or five. Listen, their defense with a defensive head coach is finally playing well. they have had 13 sacks in the last three games, and here comes Bosa, who's supposed to return this week. All you have to do to Justin Herbert is play decent defense, and he wins.

He's 18 and 4 when the Chargers hold opponents to fewer than 27 points. So when they play average defense, Justin Herbert wins. They did last night against an awful team, and he won again. Number eight. The Jaguars. I had them above the Lions last week, and people pushed back. I think it's a real football team. I think Trevor Lawrence is a star.

He's the best quarterback in the NFL passer rating since week nine. Big, tall moves. He has the largest increase ever in passer rating one year to the second. They're on a three-game winning streak. They don't know what they don't know. They're young. If they do make the playoffs, they're a one-and-done. But he has become, with Doug Peterson, the quarterback,

I thought he would be Jags at 8. Number 7. Minnesota at 7, the ceiling's lower. But Kirk Cousins is 11. 11 and O in one score games. That is just insane. If Dan Marino was 11 and O in one score games, that would be insane. He's playing with confidence.

The last three weeks leads the NFL and passer rating. They've got stars. They've got a lot of things I like. A capable quarterback, an offensive coach, a star receiver. I think we all kind of realize this is not going to be a Super Bowl winning team, but they're fun. It's a great city that loves its football, and they've got a heck of a team. Number six.

The Eagles. Lane Johnson's not playing, so they're not a top five team if he's not playing. That's their reality. I don't care what they did. This is not a standings list. They are not a top five team without Lane Johnson, as the guy with a hat on backwards says. But their defense has six plus sacks, does Philadelphia, in four straight games. That is a lot of sacks.

The D-line, really good. They can stay in games. Cross your fingers on Jalen Hertz coming back, Philadelphia at number six. Number five. Dallas Cowboys just beat him. Was a backup, but they're seven and seven. since DAC returned. They've scored 25 plus in eight straight games. So we all thought they'd bring on OBJ. It hasn't hurt them. They're doing a good job offensively. Now, Dak has 11 picks

since returning from injuries. That's the most by any quarterback since week seven. It is a little concerning. And in big spots, I don't trust Mike McCarthy, but we've got to be fair here. They remind me a lot of the Chargers. Great individual players not quite buttoned up to be final four team, but Dallas, they can pop you. They're a heavyweight with a punch. I don't know what their chin is, but they're a heavyweight with a punch. Number four. The Bills.

Okay, we all like the bills, except Nick Wright. Here's the thing about the bills that worries me. 24 giveaways this year. Only the Colts have more. You're not beating Kansas City in Cincinnati if you're giving the ball away two and three times a game. Now, they're on a six-game winning streak. There's so much I like. I like the owners.

I like the GM. I pretty much like the coach. I love the quarterback. Josh Allen, though, has had five multiple interception games this year. That is the most in the NFL. I think you can get away with that in the NFC. I do not think you can get away with that in the AFC. That's why I have Buffalo at four.

Number three. The Niners. I have questions about Brock Purdy, too, but they have an eight-game winning streak. They have allowed 20 or fewer points in eight straight games. Don't listen to anybody. This is the most talented roster in the league. They have a pro bowler everywhere. Corner, safety, two at linebacker, rush end.

They're great. This team is loaded. And Brock Purdy, as I said, a month ago, he's good enough to win multiple playoff games. Can he go to Philadelphia and win a playoff game? I'm not sure. But this team is absolutely stacked. I couldn't be happier for John Lynch,

who I covered in Tampa, was a teammate of it, Fox. Now he's the GM, and he has crushed it. This roster is fantastic. I have them at three. Number two. Kansas City beat him and beat them soundly in the Bay Area. It's the best offense, the scariest offense.

They have more touchdown passes, 37, than touchdown passes allowed, 31. And again, they've rebuilt the defense. O-line, rebuilding receivers. Now, they're not as electric as they were with Tyreek Hill. So I do not believe this team is the same kind of team that can trail 24-0 to a playoff level team like Houston a few years ago and come back. But it's Mahomes, it's Andy Reed. Steve Spagnola dials up good playoff defenses.

Kansas City at two. Number one. For the second straight week, I have Cincinnati at one. J-MAC was selling this stock like crazy two months ago. And I said they lost to Dallas. And I said the second half of that Dallas game, that's who they are. The real key to Cincinnati isn't Jamar Chase. It's not Joe Mixing.

It's Joe Burrow plus this. They're one of two teams. They have the same starting offensive line in each. to the first 15 games this season. So the key with Cincinnati now, Burrough's not getting hit. Burrow has a lot of time. They've got two running backs if one goes down, multiple receivers, if one goes down. This is how you build an NFL team.

And we don't know if Zach Taylor's a great coach, but we have to be honest about this. You can't win as many big games and close games as Zach Taylor is done. He deserves credit too. He's from the McVeigh tree. For the record, Sean McVeigh's coach in Minnesota, 11 and 0 and 1 score games. Sean McVey, coach in Cincinnati, been to a Super Bowl. So what is happening is Sean McVeigh is becoming the Andy Reed of this generation, where his assistants are sponges.

They soak up his information. Brandon Staley's from his tree. He just made the playoffs. So there is my herd hierarchy. What do you make of it? No holes at all. this is probably your best effort of the season. I just can't get over the hat backwards.

You look like you're about to talk to some teenagers about vaping. You know? I'm sorry. I can't contain myself. The internet's going to have some fun with this, Colin. I have a feeling. That was funny. Thank you.

Kids, don't vape. I will say, I've always liked when my quarterbacks, and I'll just do this for a second, When my quarterbacks come to the podium on Wednesday, and they have the team hat on and the, and century bank behind them, and they address the media. I think this looks kind of like a college frat boy, which by the way, when I clean my garage out, every year, and you got to go into the crevices in the corners, we all do it in the spring. I wear my hat backwards. Interesting. I don't love to look publicly, which is why I'm being shamed today.

No vaping. All right, do we have Nick Wright? Is he here or not? Oh, we do. It's not on the screen. All right, let's bring on my buddy. First Things First co-host, Nick Wright. Look at this. What's up, my friend? You look like a 70s.

You're like a member of the Beatles. You look so good. Okay. And look at this. Thanks. I appreciate that. Did you see, you know how you say, and I want to talk about your hierarchy in a moment, but you know how you say our show is the only show in sports with no budget? Yeah.

Did you see what we did Friday to celebrate Trevor Lawrence's arrival to the playoffs? We had professional trumpeteers in full royalty costumes come out on set. Just throwing money away, Colin. That's what you can do when you're the only show on sports TV with no budget. Can I have a few qualms with the herd hierarchy? Sure. All right. So I agree with a lot of it.

You said one thing, though, about the Jags that I don't know if you totally believe, which is you said they're one and done in the playoffs. Yeah. If they beat Tennessee in two weeks and they're at home, you don't think the Jags and Doug Peterson could beat the Chargers in Jacksonville in a playoff game in a four or five? Because I think they could. I think that, listen, I think Herbert versus Lawrence is very, very close. I like Peterson more than I like Staley. That would be a home game for them.

The Chargers having to go all the way cross-country. I actually think the Jags could win that game and find themselves in the divisional round. The other thing you said, you just took a shot at it. me. You're like, everyone likes the bills except Nick Wright. I'm just the only truth teller in America when it comes to everyone's favorite quarterback Josh Allen. Colin, would you believe me if I told you that over the last 10 weeks, 10 weeks, Josh Allen is 30th in completion percentage, 26th in passer rating, and has the most turnovers of any quarterback in the league. That's two and a half months of football. He's supposed to be their strength. Their other strength was Von Miller who's

done for the year. Yeah. So that, to me, I understand they're winning games, but I think Cincinnati's going to be a handful for them on Monday. And the last thing I'll say is this. I agree with you entirely on Cincinnati, but you mentioned the continuity on the offensive line. Lyle Collins being lost for the year with the torn ACL. I want to see how they deal with that. Right. Because that has been such a huge part of their success and now he's gone. Yeah, he was real spotty early in the year. I think he got his stuff together, then he got hurt. It's a bad time in the year for some injuries. It's so disheart. You see these young guys get hurt at the end of the year and you're like, oh, it's so heartbreaking. So I do want to ask you, you have been critical of DAC through the years, and I think

we both have the same thing. He's a good B plus quarterback. I always say he's Kirk Cousins with a much better brand. So I look at this team like the Chargers. I don't trust them to win three straight road games get to the Super Bowl. But I got to be honest, that Dax winning kind of the games he needs to. So where are you with Dack right now? Well, I thought Sunday was arguably the best win of his career. And that's kind of a compliment wrapped in an insult. And I don't mean it to be. But if that could be the best win of your career, it means you haven't won a ton of big games. However, given the fact that they lost the Jags game because of a pick six. And then you. Start the Eagles game essentially with a pick six.

Rallying from that against that defense, leading the team to 40 points, getting the third and 30 to keep that game alive and doing what he did, I now look at Dallas and I say, okay, round one, they're going to go to Tampa. I think that is actually a sneaky, tough game because of Brady, but let's say they win it. I would like them in a round three against Philly with no Lane Johnson. with Avanti Maddox now out. And with real questions, like, is Jalen Hertz going to have a month between games? A guy who has no playoff history whatsoever except for one game when he was bad was playing great.

Now a kind of curious injury to his throwing shoulder that it seems like the team isn't giving us all the details on. That, to me, that's a real concern if I'm an Eagles fan. And I could absolutely see Dallas for the first time since I was in fifth grade finding itself in the conference championship game. I don't think they can beat San Francisco, but I do think round three they could go to Philadelphia against it all of a sudden very banged up Eagles team and win that game. I want to ask you about Mack Jones. I compared him to Grayson Allen earlier where I said, that's right. Rodman, Romanovsky, Draymond Green have been accused of being. dirty players, but you get such a benefit from their ability.

I mean, that Draymond Green is the catalyst for that offense. Rodman was the most annoying, you know, player in the league. And Romanovsky, say what you want, was nobody wanted to play against him. Well, Grayson Allen and Mack Jones are just not that good. And I've come to a point now. I have three incidents with Mac Jones. I think he's become a cheap player. That's what I view.

How do you view it? I think you're being too kind because here's the other part of it, Colin. You're on television every day, multiple hours a day. If a couple times a year you slipped up and cursed, you could say, listen, it's a mistake. I'm on for literally hundreds of hours a year. If you brought someone on once a month for five minutes and every other time they curse, be like, oh, they have a cursing problem.

They can't help themselves. Matt Jones has very limited opportunities to be dirty. Grayson Allen could be dirty every play of the game. Bill Romanowski had 70 snaps a game. He's playing quarterback. He only has maybe one opportunity a week to be dirty, and more often than not, he seems to take it. He gator-rolled Brian Burns.

He multiple times against the Bears slid spikes up, which would have gotten you a red card if you were playing for France in the World Cup, And he hit a guy in the groin. And then that play on Eli Apple was awful. And even after the play on Eli Apple, CBS didn't give us a replay of it. But after Ramandre's fumble, there was a little scrum. And something happened in the scrum with all three refs through their flags. And when they came out, they said on sportsman like conduct number 10.

We didn't get to see what it was. But it was on Mac Jones. Like all of his behavior, Colin, remind you of some of the, we've all known somebody or played sports with somebody who's always yelling at teammates, who's always whining to his coaches and who when he gets a chance will undercut you on a fast break or the football equivalent of it. Like I just, we have a lot of evidence that on his usage rate, Colin, on opportunities to be dirty and times he's dirty, is like Russell Westbrook the first year without Kevin Durant. It's off the charts. We've never

seen anything like it. Finally, I said, listen, there's, there's, I said, the media is the IRS. We're not built to be liked. We audit. Sometimes we give you a check. Sometimes we ask for more. We're not built to be liked. Sometimes we have to ask tough questions. My knock on the media is too often we play hall monitor. Like we have all the answers. Shame on you, shame on you, shame on you. I'm guilty of it. And with Tua, sometimes the media is he can't play again. You've got to take him off and my thing is fine, I agree with you. But Tua is going to fight like mad to play. Because now he's been bad and he's unavailable. And I do think this situation, I wouldn't play him. I'd sit in for the next two. But I think Tua's going to fight like Matt. They've already

tried to move off him twice. And I think this situation with Tua is sad, it's difficult, it's more complex than everybody makes it out to be, or maybe I'm wrong. How do you view it? No, listen, I, in this, let me be serious for a moment. This is one of the things that I have a tremendous amount of respect for you for, which is everybody knows the easiest stance possible that you will get no pushback for, which is just say, protect the player from himself, it's bigger than the game. If you say that, you don't even have to really talk about it on TV, you move on. I think you're giving a more honest answer, and I respect that.

And it takes in this format, you know, a measure of media. a courage, if you will. So I'll walk down that same street with you, even though there'll be some, I guess, potential blowback for it. Because I agree with you. So here's where I stand on professional football and protecting players in concussions. I think it is incredibly important in the game,

in the moment, to protect guys from themselves. Because quite literally, they may not have their wits about them. They might not be thinking clearly. if it is a potential head injury. And so having, you know, the independent neurologist, all of that, that comes in and says, you are out, you cannot fight to get back in this football game, it does not matter. We agree. I think that's good.

Yes. I also think, and this is, I know people will tell me this is maybe archaic or caveman thinking, I also think that once you are then removed from that, days later, no one thinks the hit is now affecting your ability to make. rational decisions, should we let pro athletes do something that might be against their long-term health, knowing all the information and making a grown-up decision? I feel we should. I feel like this is very different than 10, 15 years ago when people did not have the information about CTE, when guys did not know what the potential long-term ramifications

were, guys were making decisions without having all the information. Right. But do I think grown adults should be allowed to be presented all the information and then make a choice for themselves that says my long-term health might be taking a side to my career pursuits or my feeling of obligation to the team or me wanting to be great and make sure I'm the quarterback of this team because I've sacrificed so much to get here? I do think we should let guys make that decision. And I know that that is increasingly unpopular of an opinion to hold, but it's what I truly believe. So I'm glad, like, I think they need to do a better job within the game of taking guys out. But then post-game, I think we need to have a more honest conversation about what we are okay with guys deciding they're going to subject themselves. Yeah, and that's what it's really about, because I said this earlier, is they had a tampering with Brady.

They had to give up a draft pick. Deshawn Watson, Ryan Fitzpatrick. They've moved out. This kid's not, to a nose. He's probably going to clear protocols, and he's going to fight like mad to play. And I just want us on the media to realize I wouldn't play him. I'd sit him. But it's not as simple as everybody, well, he was hurt in the game.

Yes, I guess he was. I didn't see it, but afterwards, the reasoning makes a ton of sense. But I think sometimes you should sit him. But it's not as easy when you're a young man fighting for your career. And you pass all the protocols. It's not. And everyone acting like, and here's the other thing, and then I know I'm going too long, everyone acting like that we are going to ignore the sacrifices people have made,

the choices they have made to get to this level and then act like their career is just like any other job. It's not. It's incredibly a short window. The opportunity to play is you don't have a 50-year career. in the NFL. Most guys don't have a 15-year career in the NFL. And guys have already made a lot of choices that they have, that are putting their bodies in more jeopardy than if they did nearly anything else. And I just, what I don't like, and I, I'm open to being wrong on this kind of, but I don't like when people act like it's obvious, it's a no-brainer and anyone, that you're

not allowed to have a contrary opinion here. I think it's more nuanced than that. I also think if we're being totally honest, this would have been an even better discussion if every time you came on camera, you weren't wearing a teal backwards hat. We just had six minutes of great concussion commentary. And you look like, I mean, you look like Steve Bucemi in those commercials. Like, I think JMAX's got to let you out of the bed. I think you paid your pennant here. It's 25 minutes of the hat.

I think he's got to let you go. Great seeing you, buddy. As always, Nick Wright, first things first. Trumpets on their show. We got peanut brittle here for the holidays. That's all we got. We got no budget. Happy holidays, man. See you. All right. By the way, if you are turning in, I did lose a bet. Dolphins bet. It's an absolutely gorgeous hat. Most sports leagues's hats aren't this beautiful, but I lost it. I'm a man in my word. So there you go. Yeah, you know, but it is an interesting situation. I guess my whole point with two has been, what if he passes concussion protocols? You have protocols and the doctors are like you're good enough to play. I would feel really uncomfortable as a league if I was Roger Goodell. I'd feel. totally uncomfortable him playing this week.

Yeah, Breyer made a great point about the league possibly stepping behind the scene. This could be a high... Everybody's watching this game. It's huge for playoff implications. Miami, New England, rivalry. Big spotlight on this game. You don't want something, you know, bad to happen to the quarterback, like a fourth concussion. Right.

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Watch that ballgame. That'll be fun. There'll be some points in that game. Drake May. Yes. You know, keep an eye on him. I'll put some college football winners on my Instagram if you're interested. Yeah.

No, Drake May is going to be the number one draft pick. Well, he'll be two after Caleb Williams. Well, I think, but Drake's younger. So Caleb next year, Drake, the following year. Well, I think he redshirted one. Oh, they are they the same year? Yeah. My bad.

So next year, it'll be Caleb and Drake May. We're going to see some Wembenyama level tanking in the NFL for Caleb Williams and Drake. Yeah, this kid's really special. Moves, big arm. His brother played college hoops at UNC. He hit a great shot in the NCAA tournament at the buzzer to beat Kentucky, I believe. So some good genes in that family. Yeah, watch the game for the kid.

Yeah. That's what you should do. And then watch the Cotton Bowl for the Caleb Williams because you're looking at, you're looking at franchise quarterbacks, which is always fun. When I was a kid on January 1st, I would get out like a notepad and write down

the players who look good in bowl games. I was such a little nerd. I still as an adult. By the way, I'm wearing a hat on backwards because I lost a bet. I will take it off at the top of the hour, but I lost my bet. I'm a man of my word and I looked ridiculous. Kids, don't vape.

J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. You know, I kind of want to rattle off some of the funny lines that have come in about the hat backwards. Can I start with one? Okay, sure. Colin, you look like you have a very successful paper route.

All right. We could probably have some fun this hour. Let's move on. Colin, let's start with Josh McDaniels and the Raiders. It's been a turbulent first year, shall we say? I'm so fascinated by this whole story, fascinated by it. Their playoff chances dipped significantly. losing two of their last three.

Derek Carr struggled during that stretch. McDaniel says he needs to see some improvement in the passing game. The passing game and the production of the passing game, you know, usually has a lot to do with, you know, how we protect, you know, the routes we run, the ability to read the coverage together, throwing and catching. You know, there's a lot that goes into that. So I know that that statistic gets applied to just one person,

but certainly there's, you know, there's other factors. You know, so, I mean, look, that's not good enough. You know what I mean? And for us to be able to win at this time of the year and be productive offensively, you have to throw the ball, you know, better than what we've thrown it at times here in the last month and a half. Not good. A lot of word salad to say that my quarterback has not played well.

No, I mean, this is. I mean, look at the choke up he gets when he says that, you know, that's not how we throw. No, I mean, it's, I've always thought I would bring him back, but there's no dead cap hit of note. So when I watch that press conference, and I watch that game, that feels like he's got a contract that's secure Garoppolo, college kid. But that press conference spoke more than just those words. And you know the owner's not happy. He's had a couple meetings with McDaniels after games.

All McDaniels has to say is, well, I don't have my quarterback. I need my guy. That's right. He can't run my system. Okay, go get your quarterback. Next up, Justin Jefferson is having a tremendous season, Colin. Already broken Randy Moss's Vikings record for me. most receiving yards in a season. He's sitting at 1,756 yards. He was asked about the possibility

of a receiver winning the NFL MVP. He said that he thinks he should be in the conversation this year. Now, according to Fox Bed, here are the odds. Jefferson, a long shot, shall we say, to win the NFL MVP. If you notice Jalen Hertz has tumbled down the list, I think that's a sign that he probably will not play this week or that, you know, it's Mahomes is to lose. What do you think about Justin Jefferson? Well, I wouldn't give it. to him just because it's due, right? Like, I don't think that's... When they gave Westbrook the MVP,

it was more of a story that, you know, he had the ball in his hands. But I do think this is the rare player that doesn't play quarterback or running back. They are 11 and 0 in one possession games. That Buffalo game was one of the top three or four receiver moments I can ever remember. Now, there may have been many that were better.

I meant Randy Moss had a couple of unbelievable games with Brady. But if you go back to that game, Kirk Cousins on the road against Buffalo's defense, his history tells you he gets blown out in that game. That was Kirk Cousins' most impressive win, and it was the most impressive moment by a receiver this year. So that moment was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are we looking at here? This is Randy Mossup, literally taking over a game. I believe he goes up against Jaira Alexander this weekend in a Packers' Vikings game

that is enormous comments, especially for the Packers. Minnesota's got to lose one of these one possession games. This feels like Green Bay's weekend. No team in NFL history has won this money, won four games ever. It feels like it's Green Bay's weekend. Then it sets up for Packers Lions in Week 18. Packers, they need some help from the Giants or Washington.

Let me ask you this. I think the Packers are getting involved. I don't want to speak for our management, especially since I'm wearing my hat on backwards. I shouldn't speak for a vapor. But if you're asking me if it's a bad thing that Aaron Rogers can, sneak into the playoffs.

That's a great thing for all of us. Aaron Rogers in the playoffs, nothing against Jared Gophon the other guys on the line. The Green Bay Packers are a top three brand. That's like, you don't have to love Dak or Mike McCarthy. Cowboys in the playoff, Green Bay in the playoffs, is fantastic for all of us. Who would you rather watch against Sam Fran?

Carson Wentz or Aaron Rogers? Aaron Rogers. Here's a scary thing. I don't know that Rogers will ever come into the playoffs with lower expectations, right? they weren't even supposed to make the playoffs. There's no pressure on them. Last year there was pressure.

And, no, that's a very good point. They're getting healthier. I still wish they'd run more with Aaron. I love Aaron Jones. I don't know what happened to him, man. I have them on my fantasy team. You don't care, but I snuck by into the finals. He didn't do anything.

Come on it, time to buy some Packers win the NFC futures? I mean, Eagles are beat up. Cowboys defense has gotten shredded the last, I guess, three games. Buccaneers only can play in two-minute drill offense. They're garbage. Buccaneers are terrible right now. And the other team is Minnesota, who we don't trust at all. Packers and Aaron Rogers could make things very interesting here. Final story, Colin, let's go to the NBA.

Anthony Davis has been out since injuring his foot December 16th. Lakers 1 and 4 without it. By the way, I was at the Lakers Hornets game Friday. Got some tickets hooked up. With your kids, yeah. Devastating loss for the Lakers. I mean, goodness gracious. Hornets are the worst teams in the league.

At any rate, losing the last four in a row for the the Lakers. They lost to the maps on Christmas. LeBron has made it clear that they miss Anthony Davis. Well, the reality is that, you know, without AD, you know, we lose a lot of length, which we don't have already. So, you know, we have to make up, you know, in ways that, you know, without AD is just very difficult, very challenging. So I think one, at one point we had a lineup of, I think, I think AR was the tallest guy on the court. Yeah. It's all.

It's not a rock science to figure that out. LeBron is having an unbelievable season. All NBA levels, for sure. No, I mean, he is. If I said to you five best players in the league. He's on the list. Janus is obviously there. Luca's there.

Steph Curry's hurt, but you got to have it. He's there. And then your call, is it Yokic? Is it Jason Tatum? Jason Tatum, I'm off the charts right now. The internet loves Yokic, but can I see something in the playoffs before we put him in? No, it's fair. It's fair.

Jamal Murray carried them in the playoffs in the bubble. Okay. Let's be real. Sorry, I like Yokicch. He's really good, but LeBron at his age. It's insane. He had two dunks in a game. You may have been at this game.

No, it was the game before that. Yeah. He had a couple of dunks in the game. And that's, like, take your breath away stuff. Tomahawks, he's in year 20. Yeah. I'd be like Brady. Well, I mean, it's Brady winning the Super Bowl.

The weirdest part is LeBron's leaving it all in the court and then two players go to help him up and you're like, Max Christie, who the hell is that? And Austin Reeves? Like, LeBron, he's really playing with a bad line. No, I mean, he is, LeBron in any eight-minute spurt, next, if you take out Yannas,

in any eight-minute spurt is the best player in the league still. Would you hold it against him if he went into Rob Polinka's office and do something? Help me. What are we doing? No. He should be doing it. Of course, at some point, you pay Mahomes, you pay LeBron, you pay these great players.

They get one time. Now, now, LeBron did that with Westbrook. That's correct. So, LeBron's done it more than the media knows, kind of going in and saying, I want this. LeBron wanted Westbrook. The front office wanted Buddy Healed. So a little bit of this bed has been made by LeBron, in fairness. Well, how about if LeBron just said, you don't have to do what I want to do.

Do something. Get me a third or a fourth guy. We need help here. Yeah, I get it. J-MAC with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News.

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Good for Green Bay, though. So Tom Brady was on his podcast. Let's go with Jim Gray. Remember, Tom Brady didn't want to retire. Tom Brady's wife at the time, Giselle wanted Tom Brady to retire. Tom Brady's father has been quoted saying in the last year, I don't think my son wants to retire. So Brady addressed retirement on his podcast with Jim Gray. Well, I think next time I decided to retire, that's it for me. So whenever that day comes,

we'll figure it out. You know, I think what I really realized last year was, you know, you've got to be really sure to do that. And, you know, for me, you know, it's a lot of people have kind of gone through a situation. I'm going to take my time. whenever that time does come. Okay, there's an obvious one for Tom Brady, and that is San Francisco. His parents are aging. They've got a plug-in-play roster where he can be a Super Bowl favorite the minute he arrives with an offensive coach and a Hall of Fame left tackle.

He will, if offered, take the Niners job. He will consider the Raiders job with very good offensive pieces in the entertainment capital of North America with a head coach, who was his former coordinator. He will consider it. But nobody's talking about the Miami Dolphins. Folks, fastest wide receiver tandem maybe in league history. Jalen Waddle's a star.

Tyreek Hills maybe a bigger star. Capable running backs. Mike Gasekis, an excellent young tied end. A Hall of Fame level left tackle. A brilliant offensive coach that runs the same system as Kyle Shanahan does, which is not quarterback dependent. take a snap, three steps, get it out, read the defense. It is a perfect system for Brady.

And by the way, the dolphins already had to give up a pick for tampering. Might as well get something out of it. They were interested before in Brady. He stays in the state. He stays on the East Coast. I was told when the Chargers made a run at him, and I don't know if this was Tom or Giselle, but at the time he thought he didn't want to be that far away, kids, school, all that stuff. Now, I think he would go to the Bay Area now as his parents' age. That's the obvious one. He's not going to New England. They got no weapons.

Get that off the board. But Miami feels really, really strong. Left tackle, offensive coach, lots of weapons, an organization he's played. By the way, I'll just throw this out there. So the Jets don't have their quarterback, and New England's got an average one. So he looks at that division and he says, all I got to do is beat Josh Allen. So he's already beaten Mahomes in a super. Bowl.

Right? So he's proven head-to-head. I got Mahomes number. Joe Burroughs got a lot of weapons, too. Wherever he goes, he's going to want weapons. Miami's got the two fastest wide receivers, arguably in the league, the fastest tandem ever. So wouldn't it be great if he goes to Miami has the tandums and can say,

I beat Mahomes in his prime, I beat Allen in his prime, and Burrow couldn't get past me? It's pretty attractive, right? If you're going to face Burrough and Mahomes and Allen, especially Burrow and Mahomes, you better have weapons. Miami has absolutely got him. So it's something to think about. Let me, let me, there's another topic I want to touch on here. Cliff Kingsbury, apparently his future with the Cardinals, it's got about two weeks on it, right?

Two weeks left in the season. And he's 28, 35, and one. I kind of feel with Cliff Kingsbury something most of you probably feel. I feel he's a college coach. He's good looking, young, a lot of energy. Recruiting takes a lot of that energy. I think he'd be a great college coach. I've said if Brett Venables doesn't work in Oklahoma,

I would hire Cliff Kingsbury in a second. But I think he also gets exposed because of the division he's in. Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVey and Pete Carroll, he sticks out like a coach that doesn't know what he's doing. In all the years in Arizona, they've never had a top 10 offense, and that's with a very talented quarterback, good tight ends and star weapons. Never had a top 10 offense. I think college coaching and NFL

coaching, it's easier today to make that transition. Lou Holtz was a disaster, spurious or disaster. Sabin did not work out. Lou Holtz, Bobby Petrino did not work out. I think it's easier today than it's ever been. But Matt Ruhl was a really good college coach, and that thing in Carolina was a tire fire. So I think Kingsbury never had a winning record as a college coach, it was at a second-tier college program. I think if you give him the brand, the name, the recruiting power, and the money of Oklahoma, he returns them to a very formidable team. That's if Brett Venables doesn't work.

He may work. But Chip Kelly, work for an instant. War people out. Greg Shiano kind of work for an instant. War people out. In college football, the coach controls everything. In the NFL, the owner and the quarterback control every single. thing and the GM controls the draft.

So there are certain personalities that work in college, certain personalities, I mean, dominating personality, Shiano, Saban, Saban, Spurrier, Holtz, Patrino. Don't work in the NFL. Kingsbury does not have a dominating personality, so I thought it could work. He's not somebody that has to control everything. Chip Kelly wanted more control in Philadelphia. He alienated Howie Roseman and eventually Howie's now back to run in the franchise. guys. It is a hard, hard, it's a hard sell now when you look at recent momentum to hire the college coach.

I think it's a really hard sell. Lincoln Riley in four or five years, probably somebody will make a huge run at him. But if you look at what's happening, Sean McVe's assistant, Zach Taylor's in a Super Bowl, the guy in Minnesota's crushing, Brandon Staley just made the playoffs. It looks like the way to get the right coach, if you're not hiring a head coach, hire an assistant from a highly capable coach not named Belichick. Okay. Our staff found it. I said, I have to wear this hat on backwards for this hour. I'll take it off in a second.

And I said, the shame in all of it is, what a great logo it is. It looks so much better like this. So our staff went and found me all the time. I said, have they changed their logo? Of course they have. They had the helmet. I forgot that. And also now the dolphin looks more happier with its, you know, it's heading in the right direction.

They've kind of moved its tail. That is, though, I think, the best logo in... You don't think so? Let's not go overboard. You don't think that... It's a really good logo, a top 10 logo in the league. But Colin, another joke just came in. Someone said, after the show, you look like you're going to go clean somebody's pool with the hat backwards.

You know, pool cleaner guy out here in L.A. is busy. Have you seen the weather forecast for L.A. for the next 10 days? Not that warm. No, I mean, forget the warm. Like, you know, the rest of the country is getting the Arctic blast. Weather is a change in. We're getting 10 days of wet, which for the state and the drought situation, It's the only state I've ever lived in.

I root for rain. We're getting some good news for all the farmers in the state and all the people struggling with droughts. Any advice on how to walk a dog in the rain? My dog does not like to get wet. Put your hat on backwards, tell people not to vape. That is the way to do it. All right, we're going to the third hour in our show.

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