The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 – Big Game of the Week, One and Done for Tom Brady?

Episode Date: January 3, 2025

Covino & Rich are in for Colin Cowherd! They react to their Kelce cereal taste-taste. 'RICH'S BIG TV GAME OF THE WEEK' gets you set for NFL Week 18! LeBron & the fellas' 20-year run together. Is there a chance that Tom Brady is one & done in the booth? Plus, HERDLINE NEWS & anti-Yankees scruff! #crshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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5 to 7 on the East right here on Fox Sports Radio, or just search Covino Enrich wherever you stream podcasts. Yeah, buddy. And we even have a bonus podcast called Overpromise, because blabbermouth Davis over here always overpromises things we never have time for because we do a two-hour show. So we have a bonus podcast that you could watch

on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page or you could just, again, listen, wherever you stream, overpromised with Kavino and Rich. And we really dove into that Crocs discussion on Overpromise. So if you want more, catch Overpromised Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. Yeah, yesterday's bonus pod. We also talked about all the incentives

in the NFL Week 18, which brings up another conversation we're going to have today about if life was incentive-based. Because I think Gino Smith and Mike Evans, among other players, have a hell of a lot to play for Sunday. And something else we did on Overpromised,

we tried the Kelsey Mix cereal. And we were talking to Danny G. In music about this before the show, I wanted to hate it because I'm like, oh, the Kelsey's, they're everywhere. His wife's now got the number one podcast. You know, Jason's, the Kelsey's are in your face more than ever. So you sort of wanted to hate the cereal.

What do you think? What do you think we liked it? Of course we did. I want to hate it, but I congratulate it. Cinnamon toast crunch, lucky charms, and Reese's puffs together. Yeah, there was sugar involved. How is Rich not going to like that? Yeah, Danny, I thought there was no way the cinnamon toasty goodness would vibe with the peanut buttery reases,

is mixed with the marshmallowy greatness of Lucky Charms. I'm like, that's just too much going on. And at first, it hits you and you taste the peanut butter. And then the cinnamon kicks in. You're like, oh, all right, this kind of all compliments itself. And you're like, dang it. They did it. I can't believe it.

I hate these guys. I hate how good it was. Yeah, it was good. I'm just surprised you guys thought that they, like, grabbed a box of grape nuts, put the Kelsey's on it. And you're like, oh, this is going to be terrible. You're right. It's all the best cereals.

Why wouldn't it work? Yeah, honestly. And you don't even need to be drunk or high to appreciate it. I had it yesterday morning. No, you have to be drunk or high to come up with the idea. And that's what makes you want to vomit because you got these two goons who were probably high or one of their goofy college friends probably did this

because they were running out of other cereal and other options. And then they pitched it to General Mills and General Mills said, great idea. This is something your dumb college friend would do. Combine three random cereals. It's like the invention of the everything bagel. If people don't know that, On Long Island, back of the day, a drunk bagel shop owner, went with his buddies to the shop after hours,

probably out of their mind drunk or high or something, started dipping the bagels and all the remnants that had been used throughout the day, the everything bagel. That's how the fat Daryl and all those fat sandwiches were invented. Yeah, I'll have a chicken parm and yeah, throw some cheese sticks on it. Yeah, throw some bacon on me. You know how trail mix was invented, right? Yeah. Dad just shook out the car seat in the back of the minivan.

True story. Oh, there's a peanut? No, there's an M&M. A raisin? True story. All right. So somehow it worked, and if you want to, again, be part of that,

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Joe. Ah. All right, well, we're still trying to figure out these phones. Yeah, we're working out the, the cowherd phones here. It's all good. 8777. It's 2025. Phones for the herd. Who calls anyway? Text me. Yeah. 8774-884-3437 or easier. Hit us up at Covino and Rich. The most inclusive, most interactive show on radio according to us. What's the chance you pick up your phone to an unknown number?

No chance. No? I don't pick up FaceTimes ever. I'm allergic to FaceTime. I don't do that. It's interesting. If someone FaceTime you alone, there's a lot of things today that could be handled on text and you're the biggest culprit of bothering me. Like when you could easily set a text, you're calling me all the time. You know how many times I put down the phone and my girlfriend would say, who was that?

It was rich. And she's like, he couldn't have texted you that? And I'm like, yep, he could have, but he decided to call. What you're doing is outdated in my opinion. Tell them mind their own business. No, but it's true. I feel the same way.

I'm like, he could have texted that. Well, I think if someone facetimes you, though, you have to pick up because it's one of two things. it's someone that really just wants to see you and what do you look good enough to pick up FaceTime? Absolutely. A lot of times if it's a random person,

it's usually they bumped into someone else you know. Right? And it's like, oh my God, you know Kavino, so do I. Yo, let's FaceTime him. And you missed out on a fun opportunity. And I'm happy about it. You think when I'm lamping there in my natural habitat on the couch looking lazy,

you think with my bedhead, you think I want to see somebody? you're out of your mind. No thanks. I'll be okay missing that FaceTime. So the phone number, again, if you want to call an Interact, 877-484-34-34-37.

Now it's time. We do this every Friday for Rich's Big TV game of the week. You should say my fed up. I got an extra TV. The game that I will have. We should call it Rich's Big TV game of the week. It's Rich's Big TV game.

of the week. Hey, Rich, you want to explain? Well, I mean, because TVs are so damn cheap. And I say that respectfully. To be honest, truth is you go to Walmart, Target, Best Buy anywhere. I saw like a 60-inch TV for under $300. And I said, you know what? Let me get a couple TVs.

Can I explain why? Add them to my living room. I wheeled them in and out on Sundays. It's not that everything else got more expensive and TVs got cheaper. You're just buying a screen. You're buying a monitor. there's no tuner in the things that you're buying. It's not necessarily a TV.

It's just a screen. Who needs a tuner? We're talking about not answering phone calls and texting. But I'm saying that's why... That's why they're so cheap. Because they're just a monitor at this point. That's really it. That's all you need, right?

Pretty much. Smart TV? You got everything you need. So, point is, I wheel in the big TV, so they have multiple TVs going on Sunday. What gets the big screen? Because the other TV has the four boxes for Sunday. Sunday ticket. My TV has the

Octobox. I can't watch Red Zone. My ADD is blazing too much. I would be pacing like a maniac. So, this week is a rare week. I'm not saying I'm killing our segment. There's nothing worthy of the big TV except for Sunday night. Vikings Lions is worthy of a conversation

in itself. But every other game, I think, I know you want to watch Gino Smith simply based on the incentives he's playing Yeah, you're going to see some of these players balling because of their incentives. Gino Smith is playing for $6 million in incentive bonuses. So, you know, that's

major money. You're going to see some big numbers being put up. But every game of interest to me, there's a rub Kavino, like, oh man, I want to watch Steelers, Bengals. But it's on Saturday, so you don't need to be worried about other games. And the Bengals win, and you'll be all excited. Like, oh, Joe Burroughs got a chance.

And then Kansas City sits the whole team and Denver will win and be in. And I think the sentiment is that we should all root for Carson Wentz. I'm sorry, Denver. I don't want to hurt your feelings. But if we root for the Chiefs to win, who do you rather see? And God, I don't

want my friends and family in Colorado to hate on me. Sorry, Bo Nix. Sorry. Sorry. Sean Payton. Who do you rather see in round one? Joe Burrow, I know the defense of Cincinnati's not great, but don't you want to see Joe Burrow

sneak into the playoffs? Yes. Yeah, and he's earned it. So maybe one of those games you throw on the big TV on Sunday is Denver and Kansas City. And for some reason, you hope that Carson Wentz shows that, yo, he still's got the juice. So actually, this is your segment, Rich, right? Because you're the one with two TVs that you brag about all the time. I never brag. You're the guy that brings it up.

He wheels his TV in, like he's the AV guy in your junior high class. He's so proud of it. And I want to say you use the entire day. just to take down your Christmas decorations. Yeah. This is the Sunday you casually watch and you take down the lights. Or you tell your wife or girlfriend that you choose them over football this week. Because starting next week when Wild Card Weekend kicks in.

Right. It's going to be wild, bro. No, seriously. So my advice is you don't even need to wheel out your second TV. You take down your decorations, right? I agree. You put the tree away, all that stuff. And then you use your one TV for a,

the Vikings lions later on that night. In my opinion, you don't even need the second TV this week. So, segment dead! No, but I think you go, you know, Bengals, Steelers, you know, you can argue Steelers aren't going to necessarily play everyone, but I think it's

fun to see what the Bengals could do. And again, any given Sunday, it's not like Denver's a shoe in, but they are favored by double digits because Andy Reid, they are just resting. But, hey, you never know, right? The games in Denver, which is another advantage, Broncos.

Keep an eye on that one because it's the only game that would make any playoff scenario fun. And in the NFC South, Falcons and the Bucs should both win easily. But the tiebreakers, you know, the Bucks are in if they win. So no real fun week 18. But Sunday night, I want to go around the room. I don't want your prediction. I want who you want to win. Oh, wow.

Because the Lions and Dan Campbell, that was like the feel-good story of football. In my opinion, last year. We got caught up. You know, the Niners shouldn't have won that game. NFC championship. Detroit let that slip away, some decisions in the second half. I don't think the Lions have that likability factor this year. I want to see the Minnesota Vikings win.

Vikings at Detroit, potential coaches of the year going head to head. I want to see the NFC. Five seed. Dude. There's so many ramifications. here. So many great reasons to watch. I don't know. You know, I really

do love, you know what? My dad has ingrained in me to never kiss ass. Oh, you think I'm kissing ass because of the bosses of Vikings fan? But I was just going to say, maybe it's in our best interest to kiss some ass and say, hey, isn't our boss a Vikings fan? I don't care about that. You know what? We predicted Sam

Darnold and the Vikings on our Covino and Rich Afternoon show prior to the season starting. Listen, I think you could say, Danny. I think you could say, I want the Vikings to win and I love the fact that our boss is a fan and I love the Sam Donald's story without hating on the Lions.

You know what I mean? They're a great story. I like Dan Campbell. I like golf. I like that team. I like their fight. But there's something, there's a soft spot, Rich, that I have.

Honestly, for the Viking story at Detroit, it would be cool to see them win. I want the NFC to go through Minnesota as a Niners fan when they mocked Fred Warner last week. I was like, I'm in Ross St. Brown. I loved you on Receiver.

I loved watching you on Netflix. The fact that they mocked my dude, Fred Warner a little bit, doing the whole limping thing. I'm like, you know, let's go Minnesota. Let's go Vikings. You could say that Detroit's do. Minnesota, that organization has had some rough breaks in our lifetime. They both do. And that's no hate on Detroit.

I actually agree with Rich. And when we agree is fact. So how about you, music? Yeah, who you poll for? Well, while you guys are sucking up to Colin and his Sam Darnel fandom and our boss, Scott, who's the Vikings fan, I'm going to stick with the team that everyone's always been on board with. And it's the biting kneecaps, Detroit Lions, who have had to fight through the most injuries in the NFL. This is why you don't get pay raises, Ryan. That's right.

That's the only reason. Yeah, so I'm pulling for the Lions. I love the fact that this team got completely resurrected over the past two seasons and they're still overcoming all of these injuries and yeah, count me in on Detroit. Now, there is, there's definitely something to be said about how Vegas doesn't even have a feel for this game because it's lions minus three, two and a half in some places, which means it's just your home field field goal advantage. So I think this couldn't have lined up better. Now, again, the NFL would have definitely wanted every game to have some type of implication, Week 18.

It's still first time in recent history that I remember nothing really up for grabs. Again, as we said. Because this game determines the one seed going through Minnesota or Detroit, or you're a wild car that has to go on the road next week. Yeah, your fifth. Now, is it Week 18 or Week 18? It depends. There's a lot of player incentives.

We talked about it on our bonus podcast Overpromise. but without a doubt the big TV game of the week is Minnesota at Detroit. Who are you pulling for? And by the way, Danny G., we got the phones going? Yeah, so figured out the cowherd phones. It was in Star mode. Starr! For some reason, that didn't work.

It didn't work for you guys for some reason. Joe in Pennsylvania, you're on the air. Hey, Joe. Hey, so three things, I'll keep them moving. One, crocks at the gym, totally fine. Two, you guys can talk about the Vikings. It's a great story. but Lamar's getting his ring this year.

And three, I heard your voices and I couldn't believe it. I used to listen to you guys all the time on Maxim Radio. There's still segments that I've referenced to this day. I can't talk about him on this radio. Probably not. But I'm glad to hear that you guys are still together doing your thing and I'm just going to hang up and listen. Hey, man.

I appreciate that. Yeah, we started on Maxim Radio, Entertainment, Relationships, Sports, Maxim Lifestyle. Remember magazines, everybody? Exactly, exactly. And that was over 20 years ago. Rich and I have celebrated 20 years of working together just this past month. So he's my longest relationship. We realize that we've taken our show together from our 20s to our 40s.

LeBron James has sort of covered the extent of our show. Pretty much. Tom Brady. There are athletes that as we watch him retire, I'm like, I hope that doesn't mean we're coming to do. No, no. We're just getting started. Hey, let me tell you, it's good to hear from you, Joe. And I think this Sunday, this is huge,

because the loser of Vikings, Lions, no shame. And, you know, the losers, what, 14 and 3? I mean, how do you get back? If you're 14 and 3, you don't think you're going to be a wild card. And then that team will have to travel to... Well, that's the other crazy part of this game. I think it's the most victories ever of all time heading into week 18.

They're both 14 and two teams. That sucks. It really does suck. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. It does suck. That a 14 and 3 team will be in the wild card.

Going to the Rams. One of those teams is going to have to go play on the road next week. And the other one gets to sit back and chill. So lots at stake Sunday night. And we got a lot still to get to here on the show, Kavino and Rich. We're going to do Showtime Mahomes trivia. Give away some prizes. Deshawn Watson.

God, what a bust that guy is, huh? What a, what a, you know, when you talk. talking about bad decisions. You think Cleveland looks at Baker Mayfield and says, you know, that's the girl that got away. Without a doubt. Baker Mayfield took that team to the playoffs. Without a doubt. He got them like,

if I remember correct, like a game away from the AFC championship, Baker was on the track. And they saw this shiny new toy. And they thought Deshawn Watson was the answer. No, it was a terrible decision. A typical example of the grass was greener, and they made a bad decision.

And now look at Baker. So we're going to talk to Sean Watson. There's a lot to get to. And what if life was incentive-based? A lot of fun, silly conversations coming up. Kavino and Rich, in for Colin on the herd, right here on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the I-Hard Radio app.

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Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.

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Who's actually kissing now? The affiliates, because I think we need to be on more. Oh, yeah. Hey, if you liking us now, add us in the afternoon. Let's do this. If you think we're good now, man, you should hear our show 5 to 7 on the east, 2 to 4 Monday through Friday on the West. Covino and Rich at Covino and Rich. And you know what, Rich, right after this, we do our Patreon podcast.

We have lots of things going on. We even have our over-promised podcast. That's on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. It's our bonus show. And later today, keeping with the theme of Kissin'ez. We're going to be kissing ass giving away prizes because we want you guys to listen to our show. So we came with prizes and giveaways.

We're giving away stainless steel water bottles next hour. A little trivia. Swiggies, yeah. CNR Swiggies, Showtime, Mahomes trivia, plus signs that you're in the doghouse in life. When you're playing from behind, we'll get to that. It's a story about the Sean Watson.

But you want to talk a little Brady. I do. Before you get to Brady, I just want to bring up a word that I saw trending today. Uh-oh. And this is going to make everyone, was it Rizley Bear? No, it's going to be. Was it Skibbitty, Ohio, Riz?

Or is that last year? That was very 2024. Yeah, I don't know what the new one is then. There's a term that will make, I think everyone 30 or older, roll their eyes. It's a term called micro retiring. Mike Rowe of dirty jobs? He's retiring? No, not micro, not micro.

Micro. Do you guys know Mike Roe, the host? I love that guy. Camino's going to be at Flappers in Burbank tonight. Mike Roe. I know. I love Mike Roe. Micro, now I can't think of anything but Mike Roe.

Micro retiring. Micro retiring. They're saying younger people are saving a little money and walking away from their job for a couple years. And then when they run out of money, they reenter the workforce. How do you gain any momentum in your career, no matter what you do? They need to listen to some MC Hammer, old school. Gaining momentum. You're not gaining any momentum if you're stepping out of the game like that.

It's hard to get back in. I saw that. It's like a complicated game with Double Dutch. Good luck trying to jump back in there. I can't understand what industry you'd be in that you could work. Be like, yeah, I'm like 27. I'm going to retire for a year. Go travel, which, listen, it's beautiful, has its perks.

but it feels like very, I get it. The younger generation is all about experiences and living life, but I wonder how that all ends up when they're older. Look, if it works for them, like you said, priorities are different. A bunch of broke-ass people when they're older, no? Yeah, it doesn't work for me. I don't know how that works. So if you see that word floating around,

they're saying it's a big trend now for younger people. Micro retiring? Nah, in it to win it. That's my philosophy. That's why I woke up early to do this. You could go like a guy like Tom Brady. You're going to talk about him? Yeah.

I've never wanted to retire. The opposite. Exactly. Puts his heart into everything he does. Work ethic. A true champion. I believe in working hard. Work ethic.

That's why I love Tom Brady. I mean, his face is a little punchable, but you've got to respect what he does. And there's two stories. Danny G., follow me here. If I get anything wrong, let me know. Danny G. Superproducing at 8774-8-484-3437, 877 for the herd.

Ryan, big sexy Ryan, and of course Ryan Music is here on the updates. Spotties on our videos. Ryan Music far less sexy than big sexy chocolate over there. And of course, big sexy chocolate. Hey, yo. He's eating salad for breakfast. He's trying to, you know, step his game up in 2025. Yeah, I know.

And of course, spotty's on the videos at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio. So our very own Arnie Spaniard, right, according to Bovada official, Arnie was going on a rant saying that there's 50 to 1 odds that Brady returns to the field and he's talking about all these loopholes where yeah then he'll transfer the ownership of the Raiders to his son

right? And then Arne also told me who's behind the drones. Right, right. Is this like a big conspiracy? Though it is on a Vegas board that you could bet it is. What is it plus 500 though? No, what is it plus 5,000? 5,000. That Tom Brady returns to the field. Okay. Now, there was a bold prediction also made by Richard

Deich. Is that how he say his name? Music. That is correct. Richard Deich of the athletic is making what he's calling, let me make it clear without spreading rumors here, a bold prediction that he's sort of won and done and stepping away from broadcasting after this year. Like a one and done sort of thing. And you know what? And he's getting better, by the way, for the, for the haters. I feel like week by week, he's getting better and better in the booth. Goes back to his commitment and his work ethic and, you know, he's a winner at everything he does. I believe in that. But it does also make me think, well, is the juice not worth to squeeze? Like, people are way critical of broadcasters, dude. Like, way critical.

You can be the best broadcaster and people still hate you. Like, there's people that I admire Joe Buck. You could say, really? When people say, I mute the game when Buck's calling, I'm like, who are you? You know what? You call the game, that way? Everyone does a podcast, you know, and like we always say,

podcasts are like, uh, opinions. Everybody has one and most of them stink. I didn't want to say opinions. You know what I wanted to say. But because everyone has a microphone set up or because everyone watches football,

they're the experts. That's really the world we live in where everybody's the expert and everything of everything and everybody else sucks. So maybe Tom Brady's living in that world now. of, wow, you mean Tony Romo, who everybody loved, now everybody hates? And every week there's some sort of like broadcasting competition going on.

Like, I find it hard that Tom Brady wants to shy away from that. I just believe that maybe he has other interests and things he wants to do. Tom Brady, you know, played under the microscope for 20 years. So Tom Brady's used to hate. He's used to criticism. He's used to all that. But I think to back and be pointed by broadcasters, I never understood that. people hate Chris Collinsworth, people hate

Romo, people hate Akeman and Buck, people hate Al Michaels, like Bob Costa's pretty much retired because everyone's like, Bob Costa sucks, like, who are you? I want to hear all these gibronies on Twitter and on their couch call a game. Yeah, I would love to hear it. Again, it's a two-prong sort of Tom Brady deal. Remember they used to do pros versus Joe's?

Yes. That reality show. Of course. I would love to, there to be a segment or maybe it's an online thing. Petros hosted it. Yeah, Petros some money, right? Yeah. No, just Petros.

He hosted it. Oh, yeah, yeah. I would love to see the average guy just get in the booth and try to call a game. You know, Rich and I tried that with play-by-play for baseball. And we're huge baseball fans. And it's so difficult. It's a particular set of skills that we don't have.

You could hone it eventually. Yeah, you can work at it, but it's not as easy as you think. So again, what are the two? stories. Arnie Spaniarne is saying that according to Bavada official that there's 50 to 1 odds that Brady returns to the field and he switches the ownership to his son.

Brady could return. And yeah, maybe there's something to that. I've been seeing a lot of photos and a lot of stories about how in shape Tom Brady is. He's oddly in shape right now for a guy who's not playing any professional sports. Right?

Let me wrong. And then hold on. Then part two. I'm just recap it again. Richard Ditch of the Athletic made a bold prediction that he's stepping away from broadcasting a one and done. So my question based on those two stories, what's more likely to happen? Brady plays again or we find out what's going on with the drones because to me this is a big conspiracy discussion. What are the drones? What are the plasmoids? What's going on with the orbs?

Do you believe in this mystery fog that people are experiencing the big controversy on social media? I like your question. Yeah, what's more likely to happen? Brady plays or we find out if plasmoids are alive. No, if we find out what the drones are real or not. Let me ask Danny G. who's wearing his Raiders hat today.

This goes along with Brady. I'm going to paint a picture for you. Bob Ross style. Hold on. Pretty little trees. I'm going to paint a picture. You tell me if this is your fantasy or if this is like by no means what you want. What if somehow,

some way. You guys get Shador Sanders and dad wants to coach and who are they really friendly with? Tom Brady. Is there a world in which the Sanders sort of take over the Raiders and Tom Brady for one year comes out of retirement

to mentor Dion's kid who he is already sort of mentoring in life, right? In that case, we've seen the social... We've seen the social media clips where And Don't Brady and Deon and the whole family are close. Is that a Raiders dream? I don't think so.

No. So Danny's answer is we'll find out what the drones are all about before Tom Brady plays. Pretty much. Look, this is bad timing for Tom Brady to suddenly do something else with the ownership stake that the owner's just approved, by the way. All right. What's the end game for Brady? He wants to own a team like Jerry Jones. outright, okay, or have majority ownership. He needs all the cheddar he can make right now. So he's

not giving up that broadcasting gig. He's not. He's getting paid too much. So I think he's still stacking his chips. And now, more than ever, Mark Davis is going to let him play a huge part of the quarterback decision and the head coach decision. Do you think the Sanders part of that equation is crazy? No, that's not crazy because the Raiders, especially being in Las Vegas now, they need billboard material. They need lights. They need names and lights. You know, it's billboard. material, prime time and his son, both coming to Las Vegas. Is that too crazy to speculate? Your thoughts? Absolutely not.

I have another layer of this. Again, the number is 8774 of the herd. I have another layer of this for you. Go ahead. We know Colin loves analogies. We are filling in for the herd. Stars. So, if you're Greg Olson, let's say Tom Brady does walk away. And they put Greg Olson. Greg Olson should have played Dexter in the new reboot.

You know what? Looks like Michael C. Hall a little bit. Absolutely. Especially after you parties a little bit at a wedding. Right. Sometimes I'm like, is that Dexter? Oh, it's Greg Olson. Now, people still love Greg Olson.

I love Greg Olson on six feet under. He was great. You see, Greg Olson, what if they throw him back on the A-Team with Kevin Burckhardt? Do you just take that in stride and say, All right, you got it, guys. It's almost like you got pushed aside for Tom Brady. So I'll give you the analogy. If you're a regular Joe,

I'm not talking about a successful, handsome, put-together guy. Like, what's your regular dude? Slubby guy. And you find out, like, the girl you're dating, I don't know, like slept with Zach Ephron. But then she's like, oh my God, I made a mistake. I want to be back with you. Do you just with no questions, like, I got it, I get it.

Like, do you think Greg Olson really deep down inside understands? Like, I listen, I get it. You paid Tom Brady $300 million. You had to put him in, you know, the top position. If Brady walks away. I think Olson gets it. I don't think he's a fan of it. He did a great job.

He earned it. But again, he's not Tom Brady. So I think he does get it. And he puts his professional face on. I'm happy to be back. Yeah, and he's happy to be back. What's up, Kevin Burkart? What's up, KB?

Yeah, he's proven to be a professional. So absolutely, that's what would happen there. So to wrap up this whole conversation, Tom Brady, where do you see him if I said, Kavina, Crystal Ball? Crystal Ball? One year from now, we're breaking in 2026. We're, hey, and for the herd, one year from now. What do we talk about? Oh, man, Tom Brady, another second year in the booth was great. Or were we saying, man, Tom Brady.

I think that Tom Brady, Danny G nailed that he needs that cheddar, is what he says, that broadcasting cheddar. and I feel like that he views broadcasting the same way he viewed the NFL. Like, I need to work hard at this. And if I work hard at this, I could be great at this. Tommy is a competitive guy. And he wants to be the best at everything he does. So I don't think he steps away because he wasn't that good at it.

I think, and again, like you already said, Rich, he's definitely improved and he's good and he's getting better all the time. I think it's something he wants to work at and look back at and say, he was great at it, like he was in football. And he's not coming back to the field. These are big odds and these are big what-ifs. But I think we're likely to find out that the drones are taken over. In fact, my dad, who's in Jersey, said he saw him over Applebee's.

So they're there. The drones are there. They're scoping out the boneless wings at Applebee's as we speak. You know, we're likely to find out what's going on with the drones and the plasmoids. More than Tom Brady playing. More than Tom Brady stepping on the field again. You know, who better to ask than Ryan Music, who works with the herd every day? And, hey, listen, Colin has Tom on from time to time.

Do you get the sense when Tom's on the herd that he loves the broadcasting world? I do, yeah. I actually think, yeah, he's all in on the broadcasting stuff. And I would say 100% one year from now, it is all about what's year two been like for him in the booth and what's the future of the Raiders based off of where they land on the. this whole quarterback situation. Him staying in shape is just TB12 doing his, I'm staying in shape, I'm a fit guy,

I'm a handsome dude, like that's his, that's almost his brand now. I mean, yeah, I think for him, the whole thing is when you do something, when you're as obsessed with fitness and lifestyle and the grind of a routine like he was for two and a half decades of his life, I don't think you can just like drop it. No, he's disciplined on a new level.

Like you see some athletes retire and, like three years later, they're fat. Right. Tom Brady's going to be the guy that's like ripped when he's 50, 60 years old. I feel like he's just such a disciplined. And he doesn't want to look like a slub in the booth. I think that goes with the game. You want to look your best and feel good about it.

And you got to put things in perspective. It's his first year doing this. I think he's done great, to be honest. I'm highly impressed. So props to him, I think we're, again, we're going to find out what's the deal with this mystery chemical fog and plasmoids before we see him ever play again. That's done.

And I don't believe he's won and done in the booth. I think he becomes one of the greats. I do. Because he has what young people today don't have work ethic. And speaking of Tom Brady, you know, as we're watching, you know, Squid Game and all the nonsense you're watching on Netflix now, I'm pretty sure his roast logged the most minutes in 2024 on Netflix. And I believe 80 for Brady is available. It is.

I happen to see that. Speaking of what to watch, weekend hobnobbing later today on the show. You got Tom Brady alerts on your phone? Well, I was doing some prep earlier, and I saw that. 80 for 80. All right. So, hey, listen, we got the herd line news coming up. We're going to talk about the Sean Watson, a bunch of rando stuff.

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Let's do it. Let's go. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, guys, here we go. Sequan Barkley will not be playing against his former team, the Giants on Sunday,

but he will still be giving them nightmares. That's right, the superstar running back will not break Eric Dickerson's single season rushing record. But he did take a not-so-suttle shot at his former team on social media with this ad campaign promoting a sleep aid. I heard some of you were having trouble sleeping, so I wrote you a lullaby.

Rockabai baby, awaken your bed. As the thought of 2000 swirls in your head. It sure it's tough to lose sleep over football. Not for me, though. Good night to you all. This is, of course, a nod to the Giants owner, John Mara, who was featured on the Hard Knocks off season with the Giants, saying he would have a tough time sleeping if Sequin ended up signing with the Eagles. Oh, I see what he did there.

By the way, Sequin seems like his family is bummed. And by him saying that, I think that's his way of saying he's secretly bummed that he's not going to get a shot at breaking the record. Yeah. Speaking of sleep, I saw that Eric Dickerson also said that he wasn't losing any sleep. if he were to break that record. Easy to say now. I don't believe that.

He also, in his same breath, said that he didn't necessarily want him to break the record. Damn. I wouldn't want him to break the record if I were him. Yeah, that's, uh, I think, I think he didn't want to look entirely like the bad guy, so he's trying to soften it a little bit. But yeah, I don't necessarily think that's exactly the case. But hey, it doesn't really matter because Sequin's sitting out the last game of the season. Eric Dickerson remains your single season NFL rushing champ.

All right. Last hour, we discussed AFC Pro Bowl selections this hour. Turn our attention to the NFC. Here are your quarterbacks. Jared Gough, Jaden Daniels, Sam Darnold. People a little bit up in arms. Why? Well, Baker Mayfield left off that list.

Who happens to be second in touchdown passes and second in completion percentage? And of course, the Buccaneers can lock up the NFC South and a playoff spot with a win over the Saints. You know, it's tough to figure out who you would leave off, right? It's like... 100%. Not to always compare it to relationships and stuff, but you see a beauty pageant. Not every good-looking, talented woman's going to win.

Right. I mean, Gough, Jaden, Daniels, Darnel. Baker, I feel, should be on there, but who do you take off? Exactly, yeah. Let me see. Gough, Jaden Daniels, Darnel. Man, that's tough. Darnold.

They could end up being 15 and 2 at one seed. Yeah, they're all pretty hot, so I don't know. You know, I don't know, man. I guess the one you would say is like Jaden Daniels, but even still, it's like, look what he was able to do with the team. that he turned around from a complete disaster in just one year as a rookie. That's where I was leaning though,

but like you said, man, they're chanting MVP when he's playing, doing big things, so. We'll wrap up with this. Caleb Williams is about to finish off a rocky rookie season, unlike Jaden Daniels, who had a ton of success. But when the Bears take on the Packers and Lambo, well, that will come to an end. And Chicago on a 10-game losing streak,

all eyes are on who their next head coach will be. Well, Caleb, he was asked about commander's offensive coordinator, Cliff Kingsbury who's rumored to potentially be in the mix for that position. I've been around Cliff. I know what type of guy he is. I know that he loves football. I know that he wants to win. He's competitor, you know, and many different aspects that I was just speaking about. I've been around him. So I would say that, you know, been around him, knowing him, asking him questions and things like that. I think, obviously, if he was here,

I'd probably have more to say. But I think he fits a bunch of those qualities. that I said. So some context here around those comments. Cliff and Caleb go back to his time at USC as an offensive analyst. And prior to that question when he was referencing some of the stuff that I was talking about, he was asked about what are the qualities he looks for in a head

coach, challenging us as players, a man who keeps his word and a coach that's all about discipline. And as you heard Caleb say, all qualities he thinks Cliff Kingsbury has. I like Cliff Kingsbury. He's from my wife's hometown, New Bronfell, Texas. Okay. And I remember during draft night, we remember we got to see

his sweet house. That's right in Arizona. And then he got fired. He went on vacation with his hot girlfriend. He's like, yeah, I'm just fine. I feel like maybe more of an offensive coordinator than a head coach. Sure. But yeah, you know what? If he clicks with the quarterback, that's so important. It would be a pretty interesting twist and about face, if you will, for the Chicago Bears who didn't even really bring him in to be their offensive coordinator when everyone thought that was going to be the natural fit. Going back to, as we said, the time with Caleb at USC. So to go from, hey we're not really considering you for

offensive coordinator too. We'd love for you to be the next head coach would be a pretty interesting 12 month turnaround. Things change when you lose 10 in a row. That's right. By the way, you know, remember we speculated like everyone else. When that Hail Mary pass hit for the Washington

commanders over the bears, we joked like, oh, that's a turning point. Bears are done. I didn't think bears were done meaning they would lose 10 in a row since then. You hear that Bears fans? Rich jinxed your whole season. Exactly. I want everyone in Chicago to point their hate to this guy. At Rich Davis.

Well, thank you. Ryan. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The herd lie news. So dumb observation before we get into incentives in life and Mahomes, Showtime trivia, I'm looking around the room. And again, I said, dumb observation.

So I set it up by saying dumb. Sure. But coming from you, you could have just said observation. It's all good. Thanks, man. It's all good. Everyone in this room has some type of beard, scruff, facial hair. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. I thought about all the baseball season moves, the off-season moves. The off-season moves. And Paul Goldschmidt, I'm just thinking of like, when you play for the Yankees, I just looked in the mirror when I went to the bathroom. I'm like, I've got to trim up the stubble. Imagine having to shave every day.

I feel like we've taken for granted. Like, our parents, like, maybe your dad in the 70s, 80s, or 90s. shaved every day. Does that just seem like the biggest pain of the ass thing that no dude does anymore? I mean, I know Colin looks clean-shaven all the time on TV every day. But do you know many guys that are clean-shaven?

Honestly, I mean, I was clean-shaven for a few years. I went scruffed and clean-shaven and back to the scruff again. I'm not coming down on the Yankees and their lame rules. I'm just saying like it's a very interesting thing. It's not even just Goldschmidt because he's been doing a bunch of,

bunch of interviews the past few days, and you're seeing that he's going to have to probably shave his head and his face. But Devin Williams, too, of the Yankees, recently said that he hasn't shaved completely in six years. And it got me thinking, too, like, well, what's going underneath there? You know, some dude's got a lot of stuff going on. Maybe it's lack of a chin, lack of confidence. Maybe he's got, like, some razor bumps. Like, maybe he doesn't want to shave. Because if you look good, you feel good, you play good. Again, dumb observation, but in 2025, I don't know many friends, family members, grown men that shave every day. I wonder if the Yankees eventually say, you know, we're going to, you're a lot of time of beard.

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