The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 2 - Blazin' 5

Episode Date: January 2, 2026

In this hour of The Herd, it's Colin's Blazin' 5 for Week 18 in the NFL. Later, FOX football analyst Robert Griffin III joins the show to reflect on the latest College Football Playoff games, the Seah...awks-49ers showdown, Lamar Jackson's odd, erratic year in Baltimore, and much more. Finally, Colin unveils The Herd Person of the Year. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:11 It is a Friday. It is hour, too. I'm telling you this new college football world has got me all geeked up. Miami Hurricanes, Braby. The swag is back. Trinidad Chambleus. Oregon in their amazing uniforms. And then there's Indiana.
Starting point is 00:03:30 This is crazy. That's so much fun yesterday. I don't know what my New Year's resolution is going to be. I don't think eating four giant chicken enchiladas was on my bingo card, but that's what I did yesterday. I just ate all day and I'm gloriously happy for it. So last week, we took all dogs. I don't do that a lot, at least this year, and we were two and three.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Let's end our Blazing Five. We've had a good year, 58.3%. Let's end it on a strong note. Here we go. That's a hot one. Let's blaze it up. It's Collins blazing five. Seahawks at 49ers.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Winner gets the number one seat. I like Seattle minus one and a half. They've won 10 of their last 11 games. They're only lost two points on the road against the Rams. They've been a great road team. Sam Darnold, five and one against his former teams. I like the more athletic, younger, deeper roster. JSN back-to-back 100-yard games against the Niners secondary.
Starting point is 00:04:34 We know Seattle on the road is really good, almost better than they are at home. San Francisco is one and three against the Rams, Texans, and Jags this season. Second game on short rest. Defense, it's just not very good. I mean, you saw Caleb Williams tear it apart. I think Seattle controls a lot of the time of possession and wins close. I'll swallow the point and a half. Seahawks win on the road as they often do 27-23.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Browns and Bengals. I've been taking the Bengals recently a lot, and I like them here. They're coming off back-to-back 20-point-dominating wins. They've scored 30-plus points in four their last five games. Burroughs always been good in December and January. Go back to when he started. And the offense is not turning the ball over back-to-back games. Burrow and the Bengals give them.
Starting point is 00:05:28 credit. They don't have anything to play for, but they're playing like they do. And the Brown's offense is turnover prone. Shador Sanders, seven picks over his last three games. Judkins is out. In Joko and Fanon, the tight ends who are good are all banged up. Shadour Sanders against Burrell feels like a major, major disadvantage. I like the Bengals to win and cover 30 to 21. Lions at Bears. I'll take the Bears minus two and a half at home. Caleb Williams, even going back to last year, has always been good at Soldier Field. They've won six straight home games, number three rushing offense, and the Lions cannot stop the run. They have allowed 150 plus rushing yards in three straight games.
Starting point is 00:06:14 This matchup favors Chicago. Again, Caleb at home, even last year, is a little bit more comfortable. Detroit, what are they playing for? 23rd-ranked defense. I like Chicago's ability to run the football consistently, setting up some big plays down the field for the Bears. Take the Bears to win in cover, 2824. Cardinals at Rams. Sean McVey has ticked off Rams to win in cover.
Starting point is 00:06:46 It's a get right spot for L.A. Lost to Atlanta. And Sean McVey said after, yeah, the starters will play. They've outgained opponents in six. straight games. They're 12 and 1 this year when they have one or fewer giveaways and Arizona's defense is atrocious. Cardinals have lost eight straight. Five losses have been blowout losses. Since week 10, Arizona's got the worst scoring defense. So again, when Stafford's under pressure, he's one quarterback. When Stafford is comfortable, he rolls. I think Sean McBay would pour it on
Starting point is 00:07:24 if he could. 31, 20, they win and cover the spread. Ravens at Steelers. Here's my one underdog. I think it's close. I'm going to take Pittsburgh to cover the spread. Ten of the last 11 meetings with these two teams have been one score games. Pittsburgh, nine and two in the last 11.
Starting point is 00:07:48 They're plus 11 in turnover margin. Pittsburgh does not turn the ball over. Baltimore, I think, is better. but they do. Nine giveaways over their last five games have the Ravens. And that's like second worst in the league. So Baltimore's got the talent. Baltimore, I think,'s better.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Derek Henry has never been great against Pittsburgh. Roquan Smith, Kyle Banoy, Ronnie Stanley kind of banged up. I think it's your classic Steelers Ravens game. I wouldn't be shocked if the Steelers don't have a defensive touchdown. Baltimore's got the better offense. they win late. I'm taking the hook, Baltimore, 21 to 20,
Starting point is 00:08:29 but I'm taking the points. J-Mack, observation, thoughts. I don't take a lot of favorites last week. I have most of the year. The Rams generally, I would not take them, but McVeigh, after the Falcons
Starting point is 00:08:47 loss, was in no mood to let his starters rest. I they poured on yeah i like your uh rams case i'm going to be backing them based on hearing that i am curious this lion's bears game very interesting revenge spot for the bears remember they got smoked by 30 in detroit earlier this year um but dan campbell his guys don't pack it in and mail it in week 18 one two three cancun he doesn't operate like that i don't know what to make of that game so i'm staying off it otherwise you know other than sam fran i like everything i know that all right here we go
Starting point is 00:09:23 Robert Griffin the 3rd is joining us live. I love that he can do NFL in college. So I got to start with this, because we both love college. But it's great to see again. Happy holidays. Happy New Year to your beautiful family. I got to tell you is I love Miami. And I'm going to throw this at you.
Starting point is 00:09:43 So Ohio State's last two games, Ryan Day takes over the play calling. They score 10 and 14. And I think Ryan's a great coach, but I think it's very difficult. to suddenly pivot against the two best defenses you play. I don't know. The run game, the O-line, I think some of it is, Robert, and I like Ryan, but I think some of it is that's a weird transition when you face two great defenses. Yeah, Colin, you're 100% right.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It's a very weird transition, especially when you haven't been doing it the entire season. So, you know, you see some of these teams, you know, Ole Miss, you know, with Charlie Weiss, you know, allowing him to continue to coach through the playoff, Oregon and Will Stein. If you're really trying to win the big one, you don't want to make that drastic of a switch at the last second when your head coach has been mostly focused on managing the team,
Starting point is 00:10:34 managing all these agents with NIL and the transfer portal about open. And now all of a sudden, hey, we want you to call plays that you haven't done this all season and a number of seasons. That's why I think, you know, Brian Hartline, you know, being the new coach in South Florida, it would have been great if he could have continued on
Starting point is 00:10:50 for Ohio State. to really have a real shot and making this happen. They didn't, and Miami took advantage of it. What do you make Fernando Mendoza? I know it's college, but what do you make as a pro-prospect? He's a little corny after games. But I got to tell you, size matters. He's big.
Starting point is 00:11:12 His receiving core is, Becker caches everything. I love Mendoza. You know, I'm old school. I like my quarterbacks, you know, to be more formal. and traditional and kind of, you know, thank you and please. And I know what do you make of him? No, I love Fernando Mendoza because Fernando Mendoza knows who he is. And I've seen some of the memes of like he sounds like chat, GBT,
Starting point is 00:11:36 when you ask him a question after a game. It's funny. It really is funny. But the thing I love about him is he's going to process. He's going to do it well. He's going to do what his team needs him to do. Goes in this game, goes 14 to 16, he doesn't throw the football very much. Why?
Starting point is 00:11:50 Because Kalin Black and Roman Hemby, went off in the offensive line, control the line of scrimmage, and they literally ran over Alabama. So I love Fernando. I think he's a first round pick. I think he's a top 10 pick. I think coaches are going to love him. He's a big kid, like you said, size does matter.
Starting point is 00:12:06 But he can make every throw on the field, and he's not afraid of the big moments. So when you have a rookie quarterback coming in, those coaches are like, all right, is he going to do what I ask him to do? Can he make plays that maybe aren't there with his arm talent and with his ability to think? And he can do all those things. And if he gets in a great situation with weapons around him,
Starting point is 00:12:23 that's where I think he can truly, truly excel. Is he a guy that's going to save a franchise because he's super dynamic, off-scheduled play type guy? No, but if you work with him and put the right guys around him, he can win you a Super Bowl. So I really do like Fernando Mendoza. And I think what him and Kurt Signetti have done at Indiana is one of the best turnarounds I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:12:44 You know, it's interesting, Robert. With the transfer portal, it is, It takes a while to bring in 11 new guys, nine starters. Like I watched Miami lose to Louisville. I didn't watch the whole game, but I watched it. And the moment to me when I bought into Miami was when they beat Pitt. And I'm like, warm weather team goes to Pitt. And I'm like, oh, I got 38, 7.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I was like, and then I went that day and I started looking at common opponents with Notre Dame. And I'm like, no, they're different. They're different. I think Miami matches up with Indiana. I mean, what do you make about that? Because I think Indiana and Miami just feel like that is, it's destined to me. I've watched Indiana go to Ottson and really roll Oregon. What do you make of this Miami story this year, how they lost a Louisville and SMU
Starting point is 00:13:40 and just kind of found themselves? Yeah, I think your point of about Miami, it really became something for me when they decided we're not going to be the Carson Beck led Miami Hurricanes right they paid them a bunch of money reports of $4 million contract and you know early in the year was like
Starting point is 00:14:03 all right Carson go throw us to a national championship and I think Mario Cristobal and their staff realized like okay that's not going to be our recipe for success not that Carson Beck can't do it but the way our team is built and how we're built at the skill positions and in the trenches is really what's going to lead this team to success. And I think that's really any of us. You get a brand new tour. You want to play with the brand new tour and you want to make that tour the feature. But sometimes you got to go back to the trenches,
Starting point is 00:14:30 which is where football is always won. And that's where Bain and Mezador and these guys up front make me believe that college football is more like the NFL than it's ever been, Colin. You got to be able to win up front, just like every level, right? But you got to have closers on the outside. And the teams that have closers on the outside are the ones that we're seeing playing in the college football semifinals or they just have elite quarterback play. So I think Miami made the decision right in the middle of the year to be like, you know what? Yes, we paid our quarterback a lot of money, but this is how we're going to win. And we just need him to make five throws a game to win us a game and not turn the football over. And I think Carson Beck
Starting point is 00:15:09 has accepted that challenge and done a great job for them down the stretch. I'm happy for Miami. Third place ACC team in the college of ball semifinals, you know, you know how I feel about conference bias. So I think they're there are right. The ship there. Yeah. There are three teams in here who could be great. I don't think Ole Miss is one of them. I don't think they're good enough defensively. I just, I just love Trinidad Chambliss. I just love him. I get a little DAC vibes. I don't think they're good enough defensively. Is that fair that Ole Miss? It just I don't think they can make big stops in big spots in this in this going forward or do you see it differently i think it's fair because georgia put 34 on them and and georgia hasn't been this juggernaut of an offense all year
Starting point is 00:15:54 long even though i respect the guys that they have especially the the moxie of gunner stockton but when you look at trinidad chamblest you see these types of plays but he's also making the on schedule throw yeah you know i love the heat check touchdown that he threw after the interception that really kind of, you know, blew the game out for them and had them more of in a situation where they felt like they could win. This guy's story is incredible. You know, D2 national champion at Fair State, uh, zero star recruit coming out of high school. And then he's not even a starter coming into this season. Starter goes down. He steps in, never looks back. So I just think this whole, you know, we love stories, Colin in college football. His story is
Starting point is 00:16:34 phenomenal. The fact that Lane Kippen isn't there anymore, and Ole Miss is in the college football semifinal with the coaching staff that Lane Kippen put together is just fascinating. If they win the national championship, there's going to be a movie made about this
Starting point is 00:16:50 me and you, we should direct that movie. This is, it's phenomenal, man. Yeah, I said earlier, he's from Big Rapids, Michigan, and it can't be that big because I've never heard of it, and my wife's from Michigan. So I love the kid's story. It's amazing. Okay. So, you know, I said most of me, at least me when I was 20 years old. You know, you've got your car's breaking down. You don't love your boss. It's hard to be 20. And a lot of quarterbacking in this league at 20, you usually don't get Andy Reid or Sean Peyton. You get into an organization where the GM loved you and the coach didn't. There's politics. There's an impulsive. You know this. So Sam Donald goes to New York. He's 20. He's a good looking kid. He's in New York. He's in New York. York. He's a quarterback for an NFL team. He gets sick.
Starting point is 00:17:38 You know, half the people in the building aren't sure about him. And I'm like, this is just a 20-year-old kid. I find he, I think he's really special. But I understand all the reckless talk. As somebody who's played the position, I look at him and I think, nobody can win in New York. I looked at him a Carolina winning record. They loved him in San Francisco. They love him in Minnesota. They love him in Seattle. Nobody gets, or do you see him as a, there's limitations. He is reckless. How do you view Donald? Wow. I view Sam Donald as a classic case of an organization failing a young quarterback. I've always felt this way, Colin, that, you know, because of my own experience and what I've
Starting point is 00:18:20 seen in NFL history, if you don't believe in a quarterback wholly, you know, head coach, GM, owner, don't draft. Look at New Orleans, right? The owner loves Tyler Shuck. The GM. The GM loves Tyler Shuck and the head coach, Kellamoret loves Tyler Shuck. So what do they do? They allow him to make mistakes. Yeah. And they allow him to play confidently to where he can play himself out of a rut.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And now Tyler Shuck is looking like one of the best rookie quarterbacks out there, especially win-loss. Why, I know wins aren't a quarterback staff. But win-law part, he's playing at a really, really high level. When you watch the tape, I called his game against the Carolina Panthers, where they won and he came back, you know, late in the game to lead them to victory. he's confident. Sam Darnold has one of the most special arms I've ever seen,
Starting point is 00:19:08 and I've known him since high school. I went to an all-star game with him and helped coach them, and he was talented way back then. So when you look at what he's been through in his career, every quarterback now, this myth that, man, he can do it by himself, is just not true. Unless you're just a physical specimen like Cam Newton was in 2015, when he won MVP and let his team to the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:19:32 but even then he still had Luke Keeckley on defense and he had Greg Olson on offense, right? Steve Smith or wide receiver. So like quarterbacks today, Colin, have to have guys around them. Sam Donald having Jackson Smith and Jigba this season, you know, last year having Justin Jefferson at wide receiver. That makes dividends for a QB to the point where you hear this game manager
Starting point is 00:19:56 versus game changer conversation, throw that, you know, ish out the window. That doesn't make any sense anymore. Every quarterback has to have guys around him. Jalen Hertz has two number one wide receivers and a number one tied-in. Why is Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs struggled so much recently? Well, they don't have a true game-breaking number one tied-in anymore because Travis Kelsey is older and they don't have Tyree kill.
Starting point is 00:20:20 It's just tough sledding for quarterbacks in this league with how good the defensive rush is and how good the DBs are now to not have number one-type receivers and number one-type weapons. that were tied in and running back. So I think Sam Donald has that now, and that's why you're seeing me in Excel. And I think that the Seahawks aren't getting the credit they deserve.
Starting point is 00:20:40 And it's because of Sam Donald. No one believes that he can get it done in the playoffs. And I wouldn't say that's not fair because life isn't fair. We know that. Otherwise, we'd probably be both be doing some other things that we wanted to do or whatever, even though we're enjoying what we're doing. I think Sam Donald, at the end of the day, has to prove in the playoffs by winning and going on a run
Starting point is 00:20:59 that his talent is exactly what we see. and I believe in the young man, so I don't think he's limited. I think he's just the right amount of reckless with the right guys around him. So the enigma of the season has been Baltimore and Lamar Jackson. And I said this the other day, and people are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I said, listen, in my life there's always six quarterbacks that if you're the GM, you don't even take a call. It doesn't matter if somebody offers you three number ones. You don't take a call on Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Josh Allen, I wouldn't take one on Caleb or Drake May. I'm just not, I wouldn't take one on C.J. Stroud or Herbert. That's my six. And I'm just not taking a call. Then there are guys, Joe Burrow and Lamar. I'm not going to initiate the call,
Starting point is 00:21:51 but maybe injuries, expense. I'll take a call, probably won't move them, but I'll take a phone call on Jalen Hertz or Joe Burrell because Burrell's one more injury away from we get a draft the quarterback. So this whole year for Lamar is he's 29, he's missed 17 starts, his cap hit his monstrous, and all of a sudden this year, RG3, RGT, Robert Griffin, he wasn't as fast. What am I to do with Lamar? I know he's great, but is it possible at 29 that he has slightly moved out of his prime? You watched him. It doesn't feel the same.
Starting point is 00:22:31 What is it with Arr? What is it with Lamar this year? Oh, man. What, okay. First of all, I think when you look at Joe Burrough, Joe Burroughs actually come out and said, like, I don't know if I love the game anymore. And I think that's a different conversation.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Lamar has never come out and said anything like that. So I think Baltimore Ravens fans would burn the city to the ground if the Ravens traded from our tax. And I mean that wholeheartedly. And having been there and knowing how he is, I did read the article that. came out that was bashing him. You know, I thought it was Bush League to make those statements.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And Coach Harbaugh, you know, the John Harbaugh that I know, the greatest coach I ever played for in the NFL, and I wasn't even a starter for the Ravens. I was the backup. But watching him operate, the way he handled that when it came to the press, and he talked and he defended Lamar, and he said, our relationship is great. If you want to know what I think, ask me that question. And that, to me, it kills it in the locker room. And that's what's the most important thing here.
Starting point is 00:23:27 If Lamar Jackson had lost the locker room, this would be a real conversation. But I've got great relationships in that locker room still to this day. They love Lamar. Yeah, they'd love for him to stay healthy and stay on the field. Are they going to be more confident with Lamar out there in this game against the Steelers, which is basically a playing game? Yeah, they're going to be much more confident with him at QB because he's their guy. The city loves him.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And I've heard the rumors of Miami maybe coming and trying to snag him because that's where he's and who wouldn't want to play at home. first of all, it would take a monstrous offer for the Ravens to get rid of him. GM Eric DeCosta has no interest in trading Lamar Jackson. And I think for him, Lamar is motivated in different ways than people realize. And the fact that he has been a little bit injury prone in the last couple seasons and the fact that people are saying, oh, he's lost his step and he can't do this and he can't do that. He kind of in a lot of ways reminds me of Michael Vick.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Because when I was growing up, Mike, when somebody said he couldn't throw, he'd go throw for 350 yards. right when someone said oh he lost a step he'd go run for 150 and that's kind of what i see from lamar jackson in the way that he is motivated he is somewhat motivated to prove people wrong but also to prove himself right so i don't think they trade him i think he goes out and he plays well in this game against the steelers and he kind of forces mike tomlin to to either have to take a tv job or for the steelers to realize that what they have in mike tomlin is greater and maybe they're not appreciating him as well but I'm definitely rocking with the Ravens in this game,
Starting point is 00:24:59 and I think Lamar Jackson is going to prove all his daughters wrong. Yeah, listen, these stories come out. I mean, the guy in Baltimore that works for the son is a longtime beat reporter, and I'm like, what am I to make of that story? And so I think it's fascinating. I think your depth of knowledge in the organization. I have said this before about Lamar, is that I would, and I felt this way about Elway and Denver.
Starting point is 00:25:23 there are certain quarterbacks that play for a franchise, but they don't necessarily feel like the city. They're just really good players. They play forever, whatever. I mean, I love Brady, but Brady would go vacation over in Europe. He'd hang out in New York. I didn't feel like he felt like Boston. He was just great.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah, he's more Hollywood. Yeah. There is no quarterback in the league that feels, I bet that's more popular within the city, the area codes of the city than Lamar Jackson. I think he's the most popular quarterback. If you did a poll every team in the league, maybe Mahomes is up there because of his success.
Starting point is 00:26:00 So when you were there, do you believe that to be true? No, it's 100% true. And he is the city. Like, let's be real. You go to Baltimore and, you know, when I got drafted to Washington, they call it Chocolate City. Okay, well, if Washington, D.C. is Chocolate City. Then, God, damn.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Baltimore must be dark chocolate sitting or something. So when you look at the city and how they operate, how rugged the city is, how tough the city is. Lamar Jackson embodies all those things. And when he comes in, the only one thing the Ravens did, his rookie year, when I was there, I was there with Lamar for three seasons. You know, a blessing on it to be able to mentor him
Starting point is 00:26:36 and see him go win MVP and really take over that team in the city from Super Bowl champion who bowl MVP Joe Flacco. They never tried to change Lamar. Yeah. They never tried to change the way he talked. They never tried to change the way he wore his hair. They never tried to change the way that he dressed.
Starting point is 00:26:53 They allowed Lamar Jackson to be Lamar Jackson. I, for one, in my career, didn't have that same experience. But what I loved was that this is who we drafted. This is who we want you to be. We want you to be Lamar Jackson. That embodies the city. The city, you know, cling to that. And he is, like his jersey sales are crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And it's because he has never changed who he is to try to fit into something. The Raven said, you know what, we're not going to be. put a square peg in a round hole. We're going to allow you to go be fully who you are. And that's why he's been so successful. So, yes, is he playful? Does he lead in a different way? 100%.
Starting point is 00:27:33 But that locker room would die for him because they know that he's got their back. Robert, great stuff on a Friday. It's going to be glorious college football yesterday. Excellent weekend. Seahawks and the Niners, a Bucks, Raven Stealers mean a lot. Great senior Zolos, my man. Happy holidays.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Appreciate you, brother. Thank you for having me on. You're the best. God bless. College football, pro football. He knows them both. I'm going to name today. You know how J. Mack, Time Magazine, has their person of the year.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I'm naming my person of the year in the NFL. Don't go anywhere. I'm very excited. Person of the year in the NFL. Can I get a guess or two? No, no guesses. It's Brock Purdy. Did he make the final?
Starting point is 00:28:22 Nobody from the Jets. We can eliminate them, obviously. Ooh, that should be fun. All right. It's the herd. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app.
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Starting point is 00:30:26 you shouldn't have to share one with anybody. Mm-hmm. From navigating friendships and healing to setting boundaries and prioritizing your mental health. These are real honest conversations. We don't always get to have out loud. Totally unreasonable with different parts of life, right? Like, oh, have all three meals and make sure you're mindful during all of them?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Absolutely not. During one meal, I'm standing. I'm standing and handing my children food. Because healing, empowerment, and resilience aren't just ideas. They're practices. And this Mental Health Awareness Month, there's no better time to pour back into yourself. Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is. getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Ely Boulevard. Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is,
Starting point is 00:31:37 you're not doing your job. I'm Akila Hughes. In Rebel Spirit, Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space. We are more than our bodies. We contain essence.
Starting point is 00:31:55 We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keith Gianmanca seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad, but secretly, he became someone else,
Starting point is 00:32:19 a master of disguise who went to. on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy. But I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like? No. I didn't want to manifest that.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that you... your dad has been living a double life. That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Hey, I'm Jared Adano. You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody, please! But there's so much more to me than me. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian, and recently, I've become quite the helper myself. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrat, I'll be changing lives,
Starting point is 00:33:39 helping people in need with my sage advice and thoughtful solutions. Sike! I'm a comedian! I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff rant and recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to man. If I'm calling you, even if you're on your phone, let it ring twice. One ring is too scary. Cream a chicken suit. Hey, cream a chicken suit.
Starting point is 00:34:06 This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from Hypocrite as part of the Mike Coutura Podcast Network available on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The person of the year in the NFL around the corner, first J-Mac with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Let's go to the Dallas Cowboys, Colin, an interesting little brush fire on the interwebs over the last 48 hours because of the Cowboys defense and an interview that Matt Iberfluse gave.
Starting point is 00:34:48 He was asked many questions about his future in Dallas and how the Micah Parsons trade changed things for his approach. Here's what he said. I don't know if it changed that much. You know, obviously you have an all-pro pass rusher that wins really quick. That's certainly going to help any defense. If it's Micah or if it's Miles or whoever that might be,
Starting point is 00:35:08 that impact player is always going to help, you know, to a certain degree. You know, in pass downs and other downs, but, you know, again, you can't look back. So here's what happened next, Colin. So Micah Parsons obviously saw this on social media, did the laughing crying emoji. There it is. And then, of course, because the Internet's dumb, a lot of people came after Michael. That's not right. that's wrong, that's mean.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And Micah responded with, y'all want me to feel bad. Jerry Jones slandered my name to the Cowboys Media and National Media for months. So I do think I can react to comments if I want to, respectfully. Well done, Micah. I don't know. I don't know. Did Jerry slander him? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Did he? Yeah. He was acting like he's not one of the greatest pass rushers in the first five seasons of his career in the NFL. He was acting like he was just a guy. It was disrespectful. So I'm with Micah here. I know you like to cape up for the billionaire class, the elites. I am a fan of the little man.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Micah Parsons, you know, I know he's doing well financially, but he is the underdog here going up against Darth Vader in the evil empire. Well, okay. Yeah, if you feel that way, all right. I mean, I like to see if guys get paid. I just like paying quarterbacks, left tackles, one weapon, and an interior deal. And I sometimes with outside of Miles Garrett, maybe Max Crosby, I can struggle paying some pass rushers. But he's great.
Starting point is 00:36:35 There's no, and I like that Green Bay took a swing on him. So, all right. They were headed potentially for the Super Bowl, Colin, before this Micah injury. I mean, I like this Packers team. I have futures on them that are up in smoke. But team Micah Parsons for me. All right, let's move on to the Minnesota Vikings and a punching bag of Colin Coward. This man will not be the man of the year.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And that is J.J. McCarthy. He struggled in his first year starting. missed his rookie year, but Justin Jefferson is saying nice things about his quarterback heading into the offseason. Here's Jefferson on who he wants throwing him the ball next year. That's not my job. Of course, I would love for him to be here. Of course, I would love for him to be the quarterback, especially off of this year. I feel like he needs to show everybody and prove to everybody that he is that top-tier quarterback. So I would love to have him. And I love to work with him and show everybody he is that number one.
Starting point is 00:37:29 one guy. Let's hear it. Come on. Let's hear. Let's hear a smirk. I know something's coming. Go ahead. No, he had his injury right now because he played well in the last month.
Starting point is 00:37:41 His durability. That's an absolutely fair question. He said, I don't know what the numbers are in front of me, but he's had a chance to play like 30 games and he's played, you know, 11 of them or something. I mean, he's just not healthy enough. Even when I love a quarterback like Joe Burrow, I'm like, guys, one more sprained ankle here, and we've got to draft the quarterback at some point. I think Lamar Jackson's great, but he's missed 17 games.
Starting point is 00:38:05 That's a full season over the course of like seven years of starting. I think durability doesn't get talked about a lot. Brock Purdy is very good when he's 100% healthy. So forget all the quarterback stuff because he did get better at the end of this year. He's played nine of 33 games. Nine of 33 since January the league. You know, he's also, I think, the youngest starter in the NFL. NFL. Just got to get that body right. You know, maybe get on the J-Mac workout plan and
Starting point is 00:38:35 beef up a little bit. I'm rooting for the guy. By the way, I like the Vikings a lot. I don't like a lot this week. I like the Vikings against the Packers' Mash unit. Final story, college football. Haven't talked about Arch Manning on what he did to Michigan in one of these exhibition games that didn't mean much. Arch, who, you know, struggled for most of the year, came on strong late, put up 376 yards, touchdowns. He won with his arm, one with his legs, and he was a Citrus Bowl MVP. Put that one in the Foul Cabinet. Here's what he said about Peyton, who was also the Citrus Bowl MVP. Do you kind of have some bragging rights? What's that conversation going to be like?
Starting point is 00:39:17 Nothing against the Citrus Bowl, but I think he played in it twice. I don't want to have to play in it twice. Us to be better leaders and get this thing going. The standard is a standard of Texas, so got to keep it going and have a good 2026. Play great. Deserved a lot of credit. Interesting showcase game on the eve of the transfer portal. So transfer portal is now open, Colin. You know, we got a Texas staffer here on the herd. And who are they getting?
Starting point is 00:39:43 Because right now, Colin, everybody in the portal wants to go play with Arch Manning. Okay, he looks really good in that game. Well, why would I leave Texas? Well, here's the thing. Allegedly, his roommate is entering the transfer portal, a wide receiver. Why would you do that if you're Arch's roommate? reportedly some of the best receivers in the country, including Cam Coleman at Auburn. He's the number one receiver.
Starting point is 00:40:03 This dude is a, he looks like Jamar Chase, 6, 3, 2, 10. Apparently, there's rumors that he could go from Auburn to Texas and catch passes from Arch Manning. Listen, everybody was a year early on Arch in Texas. They're really, they could potentially load up with a lot of dudes. First of all, the next year's quarterback class. Oh, it's good. potentially exceptional. I'm just glad we've taken Julian Sayan out of there.
Starting point is 00:40:31 He will be a four-year starter, assuming he doesn't get booted by Ohio State. Listen, next year's class, which leads me to the whole Dante Moore jet stuff, but we can talk about that later. I don't know. Do you take one this year and next year too? Do you, you can't punt this year and look to next year?
Starting point is 00:40:47 The jets have been punning for the last decade. Thanks for the reminder, yeah. But Arch Manning, you never want to go Gaga over an exhibition game. He did look pretty sharp, Colin. Oh, no, no, no. Our take's always been. He's really athletic. You don't think of the Manning's as athletic.
Starting point is 00:41:01 He's really athletic. A big kid that runs well, and he kind of cleaned up as mechanics. I thought he played why watch some of it? He played well. It's early, but we just saw Alabama look kind of like Doodoo. I think the team to beat in the SEC next year is probably, I mean, who's beat? Well, they've got the money. It's the money crowd.
Starting point is 00:41:19 And Georgia, they don't look like they have at Stockton, I think, is moving on. I think it's going to be Texas next year. Keep an eye on Arch Manning. J-Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lie News. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:51 We're the first people to do podcasts. A pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was...
Starting point is 00:42:14 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey Jonas, and then I wrote down in my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Agency, the ability to know that we're the experts in our own body. On the podcast, cultivating her space, Dr. Dom and Terry Lomax create a space where black women can show up fully. and be heard. I wholeheartedly think, you know, you hit 30, you shouldn't have to share room with anybody. Mm-hmm. From navigating friendships and healing
Starting point is 00:42:59 to setting boundaries and prioritizing your mental health. These are real, honest conversations. We don't always get to have out loud. Totally unreasonable with different parts of life, right? Like, oh, have all three meals and make sure you're mindful during all of them? Absolutely not. During one meal, I'm standing.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I'm standing and handing my children food. Because healing, empowerment and resilience aren't just ideas, their practices. And this Mental Health Awareness Month, there's no better time to pour back into yourself. Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is. Getting a racist statue removed. And here's something that should be a whole lot easier than it is.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Getting a new one put up in its place. As long as there's a politics of race in America, there's going to be a politics of remembering the Civil War. To get to school, I had to go down Robert Ely Boulevard. Get to the grocery store, I had to go down Jefferson Davis Parkway. If you're an historian and you leave out half of what the history is, you're not doing your job. I'm Akila Hughes. In Rebel Spirit, Season 2 goes deep on both of those things. The fights, the politics, the people who won, and my personal campaign to add something to the Kentucky State House that's actually worth the wall space.
Starting point is 00:44:19 We are more than our bodies. We contain essence. We contain spirit. How do you represent that? They are just fueling a fire that is really catching. You'll see what I mean. Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Keith Giamanka seemed like a mild-mannered suburban dad.
Starting point is 00:44:45 But secretly, he became someone else, a master of disguise who went on a crime spree. At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy. But I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like? No. I didn't want to manifest that.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets. But what happens when you discover that your dad has been living a double-loyal? life. That is not the look of an innocent man. This is going to change my life and my family dynamic forever because everything that had existed prior in my reality is now untrue. Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
Starting point is 00:45:42 you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shape my behavior and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier.
Starting point is 00:46:22 We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually need people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Play the Fox Super 6 NFL Challenge. Download the Fox Sports app and enter for a free shot to win your share of 10. thousand dollars one of the questions is which qb will have the most passing yards jack prescott matt stafford trevor lawrence or caleb william williams this week colin now you got to be careful because some of these guys like dack are probably going to play a
Starting point is 00:47:10 quarter or a series and then bounce stafford goes big against the cardinals whose defense is allergic to everything what about caleb williams i think he needs two hundred and some odd yards to be the first 4,000-yard passer in franchise history? The Lions' run defense is so lean, so weak. I think they're going to run the ball with such efficiency. I mean, maybe they're trying to generate it, you know, kind of engineer a big passing day. That would be cool.
Starting point is 00:47:42 That would be fun, but I think they're going to run it with some real conviction. Yeah, 4,000 yards. The team Chicago has never had a 4,000. yard passer and he's a couple hundred yards shy. So it is remarkable in football, this big competitive landscape, what one person can do. One year ago, the Lions were 15 and 2, number one offense in pro football. The Bears were 5 and 12, 32nd ranked offense. Then one guy went from the good team, the Lions, to the bad team, the Bears. And now Chicago's 11 and 5, top three offense, and the Bears are eight and eight, and they got a lot of issues.
Starting point is 00:48:25 And the two meet this weekend. And so we always talk about value and impact. Ben Johnson has totally rerouted two separate franchises, completely rerouted the flights. This is not just being a good head coach. This is being influential. That's what this is. So, you know, first of all, be very careful, ever letting great, walk out the door. But here's, here is Ben Johnson on this young team that you worried if
Starting point is 00:49:00 Caleb was a bust. Yeah, we don't, we don't worry about that anymore. Here's Ben on this very young and ascending Chicago group. Usually when you have a young team, a really young team, they tend to ride the wave a little bit more of going up and down. And I think we've got, We've got a really good core of veteran leaders that keep the main thing, the main thing. They've made my life a lot easier with this transition and that along with some veteran coaches. And, you know, it takes a lot of people to get it done like that. It does. And Caleb has been excellent.
Starting point is 00:49:39 But for one man to have that influence to two separate organizations, you can go ahead and name Elon Musk or your favorite politician. person of the year the herds first annual person of the year is ben Johnson look at that
Starting point is 00:50:01 you go ahead and go with that must guy I'm going with I'm going with Ben Johnson all right big matchup tomorrow night at 7 o'clock I'll be on the couch I don't know about the rest of you finishing off a few more chicken enchiladas had four yesterday still three left in the pan I like Seattle.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I think they have a deeper roster. And you don't know if Trent Williams plays or George Kittle. My guess is yes to both. But I asked RG3 was on the show 30 minutes ago. A little bit about Sam Darnold before the showdown in the Bay Area. Quarterbacks today, Colin, have to have guys around them. Sam Donald having Jackson Smith and Jigba this season, you know, last year having Justin Jefferson at wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:50:48 That makes dividends for a QB. Sam Donald has that now, and that's why you're seeing me in Excel. And I think that the Seahawks aren't getting the credit they deserve. And it's because of Sam Donald. No one believes that he can get it done in the playoffs. Yeah, I'm one of these. Matt Stafford has always been a little reckless.
Starting point is 00:51:06 In fact, if you remember, for the people that say you can't win with Sam Darnel, the year the Rams won the Super Bowl, Matt Stafford led the NFL in picks. Now, you know, back in the old days, Nameth, Elway, threw a lot of picks, far through a lot of picks. Picks don't drive me crazy. An unwillingness to throw the ball down the field drives me crazy. And somebody who struggles, Aaron Rogers at times, I feel like his mood and his body language changes if he throws a pick or two.
Starting point is 00:51:39 I like aggressive. Throw the ball down the field. I think their bigger issue is after JSN, I like their tight ends. the running backs are hit and miss. They don't really have a dependable number two. Rashid Seid was supposed to be that guy from New Orleans. Deep threat had been kind of inconsistent. But I said earlier, I put up the 10 best players in this game.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I think at the highest end, George Kittle remains unbelievable. I think Christian McCaffrey's the best player in the game. Kettle and Trent Williams are two of the best four. J.S.N. has established himself as a top two to three receiver in the league. he and Darnold are great together. But in terms of depth of talent, Byron Murphy, Devon Witherspoon, Nick Eminora, Demarcus Lawrence, Seattle's got the deeper, younger,
Starting point is 00:52:27 more athletic roster, much, much better defense. But again, if McCaffrey busts it for 140 yards, kid will have seven catches, Trent Williams can keep the pass rush at bay, then San Francisco wins the game. Jay Mack and I are diametrically imposed on this. one. I think it's close. I think it's competitive. Seattle has been the best road team in the league the last two years. And it's an hour and 10 minute flight. I don't think it's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I like Seattle in this game. If I ask you, Jay Mack, what is the game look like to you? What kind of game is it? What transpires? I don't want to give too much away. We may be talking about this in headlines in the next hour. But yeah, I think we're both thinking with our hearts in this You love Sam Donald. Everybody knows that. You know, when you give out your valentines in a month, Sam Donald's getting one, obviously. And when I do mine, Brock Purdy's getting one, right?
Starting point is 00:53:21 So we're kind of thinking with our heart over our head here. I'm worried because some respected money is pushing this lineup. You see one and a half. If you look at some certain other shops, it ain't one and a half. It's up to two, two and a half. That's wise guy money. It probably is. I don't think it's, you know, Joe Public dropping 20 bucks in Vegas is moving.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I just can't go against the Niners at home right now. Is there a hotter team offensively in the league right now? No. No, there is not. I'm going to ride that wave. It's just like a certain college basketball team play later today. Sometimes when you're hot, you've got to ride it. But I just, we'll see Sam Darnold last week in this spot for Minnesota or last season. How do you do?
Starting point is 00:54:01 I forgot. You remember? San Francisco last in the league in sacks. See how he dodged it, everybody? Yes, yes. San Frayette has no pressure. No sacks, no defense. Can Robert Sala scheme up some stuff?
Starting point is 00:54:15 Well, he will. Robert's been super aggressive. Sala deserves a lot of credit because it's, it should not, it should be a bottom three defense in the league. They really should. It's not middle of the pack, which is award winning when you consider what they're dealing with, injuries and lack of experience.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Power three now. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called,
Starting point is 00:54:44 called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Your husband is not who you think he is. Your body is not what you thought it was. Your identity is formed by a secret history. I'm Danny Shapiro, and these are just a few of the stunning stories I'll be exploring on the 14th season of Family Secrets. He kind of shoved me out of the way and said, move, and he went out the front door and he jumped in a car and drove off, and that was the last time I saw him.
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Starting point is 00:56:19 I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew.
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